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Speaker 2: Final Hour on this Thursday. It's gonna be busy because
Speaker 2: at the end of the hour, Fritzy and Marvin will
Speaker 2: get pies to the face. I'm trying to remember the bet, Fritzy.
Speaker 2: Was this a Broncos related bet? Yeah?
Speaker 3: That they I don't know if they were gonna do
Speaker 3: better than another team or a certain number of games
Speaker 3: they needed to win, or they had to win a
Speaker 3: playoff game, whatever it was, it was Broncos.
Speaker 2: Okay, Marvin, what about you pie to the face?
Speaker 4: Because Chuck and Queen's bet me on Saint John's versus
Speaker 4: ukon first game, and I didn't realize Saint Johns was
Speaker 4: as good as they were, or else I would have
Speaker 4: not taken that bet.
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody realized just how good Saint John's
Speaker 2: was going to be.
Speaker 4: Now they're hotter than fish grease on Jimmy Fallon and
Speaker 4: all that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wait, they're hotter than fish grease on Jimmy Fallon.
Speaker 4: Like they're hotter than fish grease. Comma, they were on
Speaker 4: jim back.
Speaker 2: I thought, poor Jimmy Fallon had fish grease all over him.
Speaker 2: I didn't see that story fish grease on Jimmy Fallon
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Speaker 2: didn't miss it, it can still refresh your memory of
Speaker 2: all the great items that we talked about, all the
Speaker 2: great memories, because after all, I'm on the clock with
Speaker 2: the number of days, number of shows that I have.
Speaker 2: There was reaction though to me maybe extending my window
Speaker 2: of here we go. No, Seaton was out of the country.
Speaker 2: So did I miss this conversation? Are we back? No?
Speaker 1: We rolling?
Speaker 2: We keeping the band again? No? I I was, you know,
Speaker 2: on a romantic vacation with my wife and wine country.
Speaker 2: And she said, so the final show is December twenty four,
Speaker 2: twenty seven. I said, yeah. She goes where WHI the
Speaker 2: super Bowl that year? I said, I don't even know.
Speaker 2: And she goes Atlanta and we're driving and my wife says, well,
Speaker 2: you've started your broadcasting career TV career in Atlanta, CNN.
Speaker 2: Why don't you end your career in Atlanta at the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl? And I went I didn't have a comeback.
Speaker 2: I was like wow, and then I just thought, you
Speaker 2: know what, I'll present that as a way to truly
Speaker 2: truly wrap up my career.
Speaker 5: Yes see, I'm just saying, if the show is going
Speaker 5: to be, it's going to end. Yeah, super Bowl Week
Speaker 5: is a hell of a time to do it. We
Speaker 5: could put together like a Baller week send off, farewell
Speaker 5: kind of thing that could be really really great. That
Speaker 5: could be the kind of week that actually wins us
Speaker 5: the Emmy. Just saying you just gave me hope that maybe,
Speaker 5: just once for the last time, we might have a
Speaker 5: shot at winning an Emmy.
Speaker 2: Just by saying that we're going an extra two months
Speaker 2: has a better chance of getting into the Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame than we do winning a Sports Emmy. I don't agree,
Speaker 2: And it might be posthumously, if you know, for me
Speaker 2: as well, just like Pete Rose. Yes, here to accept
Speaker 2: the Sports Emmy is Tyler.
Speaker 6: Yes.
Speaker 7: So when you broached or floated the concept of having
Speaker 7: a two month extension for the Super Bowl Atlanta, did
Speaker 7: you get any actual feedback from people that matter?
Speaker 2: I only talked to my wife.
Speaker 7: Oh so, no, one industry.
Speaker 2: Yes, some people at the people who sell this show.
Speaker 2: The salespeople were like, hey, tell me about it. You're
Speaker 2: going to extend it to the Super Bowl. I said, hey,
Speaker 2: I just brought up a conversation I had with a
Speaker 2: romantic vacation in Wine Country and my wife brought that up.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we got some time. But yeah, it did.
Speaker 2: It kind of hit me that, yes, my career was
Speaker 2: at a crossroads. I had just lost out on a
Speaker 2: job at a local station in Dayton, Ohio, and then
Speaker 2: I got I don't know, I was really down. I
Speaker 2: was twenty seven and I thought I won't get a
Speaker 2: job in TV. I just lost out the weekend job
Speaker 2: at Channel two, and my ex girlfriend said, you should
Speaker 2: come down to Atlanta. CNN is hiring. I go, I
Speaker 2: couldn't get the job in Dayton, Ohio. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to get a job at CNN. And then it turns
Speaker 2: out they hired me. I was only doing headline sports.
Speaker 2: I wasn't even on camera, and I took a ten
Speaker 2: thousand dollars pay cut, and thank god I did. Six
Speaker 2: months later, I'm in New York and I'm covering Baltimore, Boston, Philly,
Speaker 2: New York, DC, all of the different teams. The eighty
Speaker 2: six Mets, the Giants won a Super Bowl covering the Celtics.
Speaker 2: I mean, all of that was able to grow up
Speaker 2: covering some of these teams as a reporter. But if
Speaker 2: I don't go to Atlanta and I don't get that
Speaker 2: job or take the job at Headline Sports, I'm not
Speaker 2: here today because I probably would have just stayed in radio.
Speaker 2: But you know, my wife was right, that's where my
Speaker 2: career got started. And at that point I didn't think
Speaker 2: that I would work in TV at all, and America
Speaker 2: would be cheated of looking at this face. They would
Speaker 2: only be able to hear that voice. And that's enough
Speaker 2: for a lot of people. But when you throw in
Speaker 2: the face part of it, Todd, Yeah, that's really yeah.
Speaker 3: And you control Burriso and not say, oh, you mean
Speaker 3: Headline Sport, that would have been a problem.
Speaker 8: Yes.
Speaker 4: Could you imagine the pilgrimage to Atlanta for your last show,
Speaker 4: like legit, legit, not even legit.
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think it's not going to
Speaker 2: be a pilgrimage.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Malcolm X went to Mecca. It was a pilgrimage.
Speaker 4: They're going to make this type of pig.
Speaker 2: I don't think it'll be the same, I don't. I mean,
Speaker 2: it'll be closed, but I don't think it'll be the.
Speaker 5: Same shades of similar ac Yes, not quite the same,
Speaker 5: but that's you know, the degrees of it.
Speaker 7: Maybe, yes, like Hoosiers when the town is closed and
Speaker 7: the bus full of people, all the buses going down
Speaker 7: the street to the game.
Speaker 2: Just mythical. I just I just put that out there.
Speaker 2: That was a conversation I have with my wife.
Speaker 6: That was all.
Speaker 2: I'm not putting it out to say that's what we're
Speaker 2: going to do. But I did bring that up to
Speaker 2: the Danatz just to say, hey, this is something that
Speaker 2: did stir my interest in extending and we're not going
Speaker 2: to put this to a vote.
Speaker 5: No, you're not putting you So you just put it
Speaker 5: out there now two times today, Like what are you
Speaker 5: talking about, dude, of course we're doing that.
Speaker 2: No, but you weren't here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, But now this is the second time now
Speaker 5: that you're like flirting with the idea.
Speaker 2: I'm guessing.
Speaker 5: I don't know how it went over the first time,
Speaker 5: but me hearing that news thinks it makes all the
Speaker 5: sense in the world.
Speaker 2: It does. It does, But I would have to talk
Speaker 2: to management because we have contracts and you know, we
Speaker 2: have relationships with sponsors, and you know, I don't know
Speaker 2: how that works. To extend it two months to the
Speaker 2: end of February. Yeah, two month bonanza. Yes, but I
Speaker 2: am it's under advisement. That's all. That's a long time.
Speaker 2: A lot can happen, A lot can happen. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to bet a pie to the face the final pie. No,
Speaker 2: the final pie. No, no, no, not going to do that.
Speaker 2: But out of respect to you guys, the audience, to
Speaker 2: wrap it up in the proper way, I am certainly
Speaker 2: considering that that we would do it just to the
Speaker 2: super Bowl, just to the super Bowl. That is perfect.
Speaker 2: That is perfect. That's exactly what we should be doing.
Speaker 2: It's perfect.
Speaker 4: Yes. Is there anybody that you would want for sure?
Speaker 4: Like we have to get this? No guess okay, No, no,
Speaker 4: I have one.
Speaker 5: Yes, Tim Kawakami, Yeah, that's you could do forty nine Ers,
Speaker 5: you could do Warriors Mercury News.
Speaker 2: He could do.
Speaker 5: If we don't have Tim Kawakami on the last show,
Speaker 5: than what are we really doing? Why did we do this?
Speaker 2: Tim Cawndllshan, you know, like all the people, well, Jordan Tiger.
Speaker 7: Yes, we already have an issue with this possible plane
Speaker 7: of you extending through the Super Bowl in Atlanta.
Speaker 4: I want to hear it.
Speaker 2: So let's say we did.
Speaker 7: You extended for two more months to your final contract,
Speaker 7: and you did the show. We did the show in
Speaker 7: Atlanta for super Bowl. We have to be on on
Speaker 7: Monday to recap the super Bowl. You cannot not be
Speaker 7: on a Monday. So here's the plan. Last week super
Speaker 7: Bowl extravaganza and then the final show from the attic
Speaker 7: of your house.
Speaker 2: No, no, the cat and the dog and the bacon. No,
Speaker 2: and be here, be here in the man can really
Speaker 2: put a bow on it. It's the there's no equipment
Speaker 2: in the attic.
Speaker 4: We'll figure that out.
Speaker 2: No, we've already figured it out. This would be we'd
Speaker 2: have to do that show here in the man Cave
Speaker 2: and then we turn out the lights of the man
Speaker 2: Cave and then we all walk out. You guys cry.
Speaker 2: I'm laughing. I'm celebrating, yes, Marta.
Speaker 4: But I just saw the twenty twenty eight Final Fours
Speaker 4: in Mason, Ohio, So we have to do now the
Speaker 4: show from.
Speaker 2: It could be in my hometown. And I still wouldn't
Speaker 2: do a show I'm good. No, not because it's in
Speaker 2: my hometown. I don't want to go back there. It's
Speaker 2: just like, at some point I got to say that's it.
Speaker 2: I'm done. Maybe we do other things. Maybe maybe we
Speaker 2: do a podcast once a week or something. I don't know.
Speaker 2: We're disgusting all these things. Maybe I don't do anything
Speaker 2: with you guys. Maybe I just go on my own.
Speaker 2: It's fair. I've been dragging your asses up and down
Speaker 2: the floor for decades now. The one who gets so
Speaker 2: emotional is Todd, and I don't know why you get them.
Speaker 3: It's I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't like talk death talk. I don't like to
Speaker 4: talk about things ending.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, this is career death. This isn't me dying.
Speaker 8: I don't.
Speaker 3: I know everything is finite, but I just I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just I don't like things that come to an end.
Speaker 3: It's said, and talking about it, especially years in advance,
Speaker 3: is upsetting.
Speaker 2: No, But it's it's sad because then you have to
Speaker 2: go out and try to find another job. That's true,
Speaker 2: That's that's the sad thing.
Speaker 3: I'm not of an age where I can just say
Speaker 3: I'm retiring.
Speaker 2: Would anybody retire when I retire, Paul, possibly, Seaton.
Speaker 5: I'm not even remotely close to financially ready to retire.
Speaker 2: That that is a okay. But let's say somebody decides
Speaker 2: that they would like to host this show. Are you
Speaker 2: retired from doing a show like this? If somebody is
Speaker 2: over here sitting in the chair, Marvin.
Speaker 4: I just got here, so I'm staying.
Speaker 7: Okay, Paul, likely not doing this after you leave?
Speaker 3: All right, Ton, I would have to think about that.
Speaker 3: That that wouldn't wouldn't be a definite.
Speaker 2: No, you think about it right now, that's.
Speaker 3: For three years from now. I wouldn't say completely no,
Speaker 3: But I have other interest in things. I may want
Speaker 3: to may want to live in other places and do
Speaker 3: either things. So you have to see what's going on
Speaker 3: in a couple of ye.
Speaker 2: All right, Seaton, could you be another part of an
Speaker 2: ensemble with the radio show?
Speaker 5: The percentage of that is slight, okay, But I mean
Speaker 5: I need a job. I need a paycheck. So maybe
Speaker 5: I'm not really interested though in being And I've like
Speaker 5: said this before and I don't know why. I remember
Speaker 5: exactly why I said his name, because I love the
Speaker 5: guy like I truly do but like I don't want
Speaker 5: to be If I'm going to do a show with
Speaker 5: somebody else again, I want to do it with them.
Speaker 5: I don't want to be like a tucker At, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, and be like seeing what's the
Speaker 5: poll question? Like I don't want to do I really
Speaker 5: don't want to do that anymore.
Speaker 2: So Ross Tucker.
Speaker 5: If Ross I would very I'd be very happy to
Speaker 5: work with Ross Tucker, but it wouldn't be in this dynamic. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 5: a tucker At, I'm not. I don't want to be
Speaker 5: an eyes in At. I don't want to be at
Speaker 5: anymore than after. Once you're done, then that's the end
Speaker 5: of my career.
Speaker 2: Okay. How about a Nick right At? No, not Colin
Speaker 2: cow Herder. Yeah, where's your cattleman? A Romett? Jim Rome,
Speaker 2: Jim Romett. It'd be wild if you were done before.
Speaker 2: He was fascinating. If I retired, say he's already retired, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, poke, one of the kings, been doing it
Speaker 2: a long time.
Speaker 5: He's done very He could retire any time he wants
Speaker 5: and race horses, yea, or do whatever he wants.
Speaker 2: He's done very well from something he has. Maybe you
Speaker 2: could work for Dan Lebtard or and and Stu Gods.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the great privilege of working for one of my idols,
Speaker 5: a man who has been so much to me, truly
Speaker 5: one of the titans in the industry.
Speaker 2: All right, tell me it was was it now to
Speaker 2: work for me? It was awkward? It was awkward when
Speaker 2: Dan Leviatard interviewed me in New Orleans. It was a
Speaker 2: little awkward for the Dan nets. Uh, it got way
Speaker 2: too serious, way too serious.
Speaker 4: I missed that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you decided not to join us. Yeah, yeah, boycott, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you boycotted. Boycotted the big night where at Tippetina's and
Speaker 2: Dan was interviewing me, and I kept telling him, have fun,
Speaker 2: let's have fun. And he's like, oh, I think people
Speaker 2: should realize the backstory of what you've been through healthwise.
Speaker 2: I go, No one cares. They're drinking, nobody cares. And
Speaker 2: then he asked me the question about what was like
Speaker 2: what was love like in the house in my Yeah,
Speaker 2: what was it like love? What was love like in
Speaker 2: your house? Oh? God? And I thought, you know, did
Speaker 2: he know about me sneaking you know, Amy Lakes into
Speaker 2: the house there. I think he was gone for tears.
Speaker 2: No doubt. I think that maybe he was, you know,
Speaker 2: trying to win an award or something. It was it
Speaker 2: was doctor Phil s but I knew where it was.
Speaker 2: It was coming from a really good place. I just
Speaker 2: I didn't want to talk about anything serious. It's fun
Speaker 2: and I just remember see it. And when he saw
Speaker 2: me after that, he goes, oh, there's Dan Patrick, all
Speaker 2: the incredible, unbelievable.
Speaker 5: He does that when he comes on the show too.
Speaker 5: You know, I love Dan Levettard. He is he's the best.
Speaker 5: He's a great guy. It is funny though.
Speaker 2: He's a he's a deep thinker. He's very emotional. He
Speaker 2: is emotional. He's gone through a lot, he lost his brother.
Speaker 2: I think he leaned on me. Uh literally has great
Speaker 2: respect for you. Yes, he does, very clearly, and I'm
Speaker 2: glad somebody does. Thank you to thank you, ton d.
Speaker 2: This is where I go. No, maybe I don't stay.
Speaker 2: It's under this.
Speaker 4: I don't even do that.
Speaker 2: Todd if Okay, if you need a letter recommendation, it's
Speaker 2: not am I gonna have to ask you for a
Speaker 2: recommendation for the one guy? Okay, Marvin gets a letter
Speaker 2: of recommendation twenty years.
Speaker 4: Hold on DP I have to do a resume. I
Speaker 4: haven't done a resume since two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2: If you if you do a resume, you can put
Speaker 2: me down as a reference my resume.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's because he tells me what a Wondervil show
Speaker 3: you had?
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, because we had a good show. We have
Speaker 4: something of the game.
Speaker 2: How do you think how do you think Musk got
Speaker 2: to where he is in the warehouse?
Speaker 4: Very fair?
Speaker 2: Can you guys be nice to me.
Speaker 4: Against the break?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Terrible would say, thank you, be nice. Marvin's the
Speaker 2: nicest person I've ever met.
Speaker 4: That was a great point.
Speaker 2: Dan, just thank you, Tod.
Speaker 5: That makes saut Harvey and I said, it makes wonderful points.
Speaker 2: He does the print. How about we take a break
Speaker 2: here Steve Young, the Hall of Famer, he might maybe
Speaker 2: he'll say some nice things about me in the world. Yeah,
Speaker 2: in a world. We'll take a break. We're back after this.
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Speaker 2: About forty minutes from now, Fritzy takes a Pie to
Speaker 2: the face, Marvin takes a pie to the face as
Speaker 2: well more phone calls coming out piece the Hall of Famer,
Speaker 2: three times Super Bowl champ of the Niners. Steve Young
Speaker 2: back on the program, Steve, we were wondering, did you
Speaker 2: ever have a full time job aside from being a
Speaker 2: football player when you got out of high school and
Speaker 2: you went to BYU, did you ever have a job
Speaker 2: like you know some of ninety nine percent of the
Speaker 2: rest of Americans where maybe you wash dishes or something.
Speaker 2: So Todd, let me start with you, Steve Young. Did
Speaker 2: he have job and what job was it?
Speaker 3: I think he did have a job, and it was
Speaker 3: some kind of paralegal or something with a loan or
Speaker 3: something along.
Speaker 2: Okay, I know, hold on, hold on, hold on. I
Speaker 2: got to go around the room. Everybody gets a guest here.
Speaker 2: But you know, keep in mind, he grew up in Greenwich, Connecticut,
Speaker 2: se Street, the other side of the tracks in Greenwich. Okay.
Speaker 5: See, oh boy, yeah, that really changes things, doesn't it.
Speaker 5: I think he has had a job.
Speaker 2: I think it was more like working at someone's store store. Okay.
Speaker 4: Marvin the Great One worked at a car dealership, car dealership.
Speaker 7: Paul Real specific when he's young, a Caddie in Greenwich,
Speaker 7: and when he was in college, probably like an internship
Speaker 7: with a hedge fund or something.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say probably had a paper route. And
Speaker 2: I'm going to say that he worked. I'm gonna say
Speaker 2: he worked for his father, Steve.
Speaker 8: All right, So, uh, the family had the famous paper out.
Speaker 8: I started it for years. That's when we were little.
Speaker 8: That doesn't really count, but I'm giving you the credit
Speaker 8: for it because I got to tell you the story
Speaker 8: that my brother. The worst day of the paper route
Speaker 8: was when you had to go collect the money and
Speaker 8: knock on the door and ask for the dollar thirty
Speaker 8: for the Granwich Times. You know, it was a pain.
Speaker 8: And one day my brother told my mom I'm not
Speaker 8: doing it. I'm not. She got so sick of it.
Speaker 8: And this is great like story when my mom punches
Speaker 8: my brother as hard as chakob. It puts it back
Speaker 8: against the wall and we laugh about.
Speaker 10: It today that my mom, who is the greatest peace
Speaker 10: maker of all time, who would never like her to please,
Speaker 10: somehow got so enraged because my brother would not go
Speaker 10: collect for the Greenwich Duns.
Speaker 8: She punched him. So anyway, I was in high school
Speaker 8: and in college I worked all summers with landscape company
Speaker 8: bucket Lands, her own man in Grantwich, Connecticut, and I
Speaker 8: ran a whole truck of guys and and a funny
Speaker 8: thing about Greenwich is you've pulled up to these big places,
Speaker 8: biggest states, you know, to go cut their lawn, and
Speaker 8: all the moms like, come.
Speaker 10: Inside, the landscapers are here. We don't want to mix company.
Speaker 8: And I was like, uh, you know, I was. It was.
Speaker 8: It was rough and tumble back then. Yeah, that's that
Speaker 8: was my job. That hedge fun thing is great. Yeah
Speaker 8: that works sure.
Speaker 2: Okay, if you're Aaron Rodgers, I'm gonna make you Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna give you the opportunity for Pittsburgh and
Speaker 2: New York with maybe the possibility of the Vikings. What
Speaker 2: would you do.
Speaker 8: I'd sprint to the Vikings if possible. I'm you know
Speaker 8: why Sam would leave a place where he knows you're
Speaker 8: gonna thrive me because they had to. They told me what,
Speaker 8: you didn't have a spot. But you've got to find Dan.
Speaker 8: In today's game, you've got to find a place where
Speaker 8: someone has left. Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay or Andy Reid
Speaker 8: and understands the new kind of run to the future
Speaker 8: that is necessary to be great for quarterbacks. And then
Speaker 8: you got to run to those teams. And that's what
Speaker 8: Sam found in San Francisco briefly as a backup and
Speaker 8: then as a starter in Minnesota. So I'd run McConnell's
Speaker 8: fast as any of them, because that's what you if
Speaker 8: you're gonna have, if you're gonna thrive in today's game,
Speaker 8: especially with what all that Aaron knows he was, he
Speaker 8: was born and raised in a more sophisticated era of
Speaker 8: the NFL. He can take advantage of him. That's why
Speaker 8: Tom Brady, I think we've talked about this before, towards
Speaker 8: the end of his career, ran into him in a
Speaker 8: Moneay night game and I go, what's the difference between
Speaker 8: the old before the rule changes? And now he goes, well,
Speaker 8: now the flats are always open, the middle of field
Speaker 8: is unpatrolled, and no one can hit me. And so
Speaker 8: Aaron understands that, Like, that's why people can play in
Speaker 8: their forties, because we know we learned at a more
Speaker 8: sophisticated time. So get to a place that understands the
Speaker 8: future and go dominate. I don't I Look, if you
Speaker 8: that's to me, that's an obvious one. If that's a.
Speaker 2: Chance, Okay, but does Pittsburgh make sense for him if
Speaker 2: they want him?
Speaker 8: No, we had to go win some games. Yeah, but
Speaker 8: they're not built. They don't they have him not run
Speaker 8: to the future as far as the quarterback position. And
Speaker 8: those are the teams that are in the Super Bowl year.
Speaker 8: They're in the championshi Game every year. Then they go
Speaker 8: deep in the playoffs. And so I would say, yeah,
Speaker 8: go on with your bad stuff. If you don't want
Speaker 8: to play, you know, you don't want to retire, I'm not.
Speaker 8: I'm not done. Look at playing playing Pittsburgh's amazing. I mean,
Speaker 8: it's you know, they're gonna win a lot of games.
Speaker 8: They always do, and he can help me win more.
Speaker 8: But I just I think the way I see the
Speaker 8: game today, the way the NFL is built, you know,
Speaker 8: you got to you know New York Giants.
Speaker 2: No, No, okay, But are the Eagles in that same
Speaker 2: blueprint that you're talking about, because.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I look, I know you're trying to trick me
Speaker 8: here and try to catch me on my my little theory. Yes,
Speaker 8: because they have a quarterback that's still you know, is
Speaker 8: gonna threaten the line of scrimmage every play. That they've
Speaker 8: got a unique way to run the football, just like
Speaker 8: the forty nine ers did, and I give them credit
Speaker 8: for that, But the idea that you're now gonna go
Speaker 8: win super Bowls by playing great defense in a running
Speaker 8: game is just not the way that it's gonna get done.
Speaker 8: You have a very dynamic quarterback position, which they do have,
Speaker 8: and I think that's where they are a team of
Speaker 8: the future in that way. They have a unique way
Speaker 8: to do with Saquon, which I give them as an anomaly.
Speaker 8: But you know, the idea that today's game, you can
Speaker 8: throw together a number one defense and a great running
Speaker 8: game and go wing the Super Bowl doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: But if I gave you Saquon Barkley or Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 8: These stupid bar fights like you know, yeah, I in
Speaker 8: today's game, Justin Jefferson with a great, renovative offensive mind
Speaker 8: and and a quarterback that understands the position that can
Speaker 8: really thrive, those are the guys that go. So I'd
Speaker 8: go that way.
Speaker 2: Did you call it a stupid bar fight? That? Well,
Speaker 2: let's this is what I do for a living.
Speaker 8: I know. But sometimes you just gotta you gotta admire
Speaker 8: and and just stand back and just say, look, people
Speaker 8: are great, and I don't want to have to pick
Speaker 8: you know, you know how hard it is to be great,
Speaker 8: and then you want to pick between great like I
Speaker 8: don't know, it's it's a bar fight.
Speaker 2: It's just a fun philosophical question. As a quarterback, who
Speaker 2: do you want the guy right behind me?
Speaker 8: Let's let's do more of it. Let what can we
Speaker 8: talk about Mohammed Ali versus what do you want to do?
Speaker 2: You call it better quarterback? You were Montana.
Speaker 1: I didn't even have to.
Speaker 2: I was just sitting here going I know, I know, listen,
Speaker 2: you made me do that.
Speaker 8: I was at it Tomam and Ali. I was trying
Speaker 8: to get you off.
Speaker 2: Traft. Do you get a Christmas card from Joe Montana's family?
Speaker 8: Uh No, but I don't. I mean, look, don't try to.
Speaker 8: We never fought. We didn't. We never had a fight,
Speaker 8: we never had a disagreement, we never.
Speaker 2: I just asked about a Christmas card.
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, just trying to say, I'm trying to get
Speaker 8: ahead of you now because I'm trying to get you off.
Speaker 8: But don't try to get ahead of you.
Speaker 2: Steve Young, the Hall of Famer, joining us on the show.
Speaker 2: You are on record, I think beginning of February where
Speaker 2: you talked about the Niners need to make or not make.
Speaker 2: Maybe that sounds strong Rock Party take advantage of his legs.
Speaker 2: He's not Jayden Daniels, but I think your quote was
Speaker 2: he could be eighty percent of Jayden daniel Right, you
Speaker 2: truly believe that.
Speaker 8: I do. I think he's nifty. Right. You saw him
Speaker 8: in the pocket. He move around. He can't carry the
Speaker 8: football out of the huddle. Look, I don't want to
Speaker 8: go back over it again, but because the field has
Speaker 8: gotten bigger, essentially because of the rule changes, you can't
Speaker 8: launch your body at defenders can't patrol the field as
Speaker 8: well as they can. It's the game is. Quarterback position
Speaker 8: has to threaten the line of scrimmage every play. They
Speaker 8: don't need to go do it, but the threat needs
Speaker 8: to be there. It's too powerful and the players that
Speaker 8: the quarterbacks that are doing that every play are the
Speaker 8: ones that are thriving. And so for Brock, he can
Speaker 8: threaten the line of scrimmage essentially as fast or as
Speaker 8: strong or all the stuff that other guys do. But
Speaker 8: he can't do it. And I think you have to
Speaker 8: lead into it, because if you don't threaten the line
Speaker 8: of scrimmage, all you're going to do is be a processing,
Speaker 8: phenomenal processing quarterback. And every play is out of the huddle,
Speaker 8: and we're gonna just complete lots of passes. Then you're
Speaker 8: gonna have to go the retail way, right, you have
Speaker 8: to go the long way. In today's game. There's shortcuts everywhere,
Speaker 8: and you got to take advantage of them. And and
Speaker 8: and so I think he can do more of that.
Speaker 8: And I think that and as they try to iterate. Look,
Speaker 8: when the world changes happen, there's three guys that ran
Speaker 8: in the future, Andy Reid, Kyle Shanan, Sean McVay, and
Speaker 8: every coach that come out that's been thriving in the
Speaker 8: NFL's come from those guys, and they've all kind of
Speaker 8: they had a tactical advantage for six, seven to eight years.
Speaker 8: That tactical advantage has gone. Now there's too many guys
Speaker 8: out they're teaching the same thing. So there's got to
Speaker 8: be a new iteration of it, a new you know, uh,
Speaker 8: a real you know kind of reinvent yourself. And so
Speaker 8: for Kyle and Brock to me, it's leaning into threatening
Speaker 8: the line of scrimmage with him carrying the football. I
Speaker 8: know that sounds scary to people, and that's how he
Speaker 8: gets hurt and all that kind of stuff. But in
Speaker 8: today's game, you have to or if you're going to
Speaker 8: be championship football.
Speaker 2: If you look at the amount of money that the
Speaker 2: quarterbacks make and they defer, you know, they restructure their deals.
Speaker 2: At what point do you think a quarterback should have
Speaker 2: a say in what is done with the money that
Speaker 2: they're freeing up like Mahomes Josh Allen yep? Should they
Speaker 2: be able to have input in free agency?
Speaker 8: Look, given enough time, in a million years, all sports
Speaker 8: leagues will be owned by the players, right because they're
Speaker 8: the ones that are on the field. They'll they'll be
Speaker 8: the equity owners. It's inevitable over a million years. It's
Speaker 8: just that football is going to be a really long time.
Speaker 8: But I think that in that sense, players, especially the
Speaker 8: ones that you've invested to be the you know, the
Speaker 8: pillars of your of your of your team, should be included,
Speaker 8: should be included, those personnel conversations should be included in
Speaker 8: the draft. The biggest mistake, and I told Aaron rod
Speaker 8: I told Tom I took pay. I told anyone I
Speaker 8: could that the biggest mistake I made was not Look,
Speaker 8: I don't want to say that. I did not wanted
Speaker 8: to do unnatural things and walk in and tell them
Speaker 8: you better draft that guy, or you better take care
Speaker 8: of me, or you better No, but I wish that
Speaker 8: I would have gone into them, into the room and
Speaker 8: and and how to say, and had the conversation and
Speaker 8: talk through it and try to make sure that we were,
Speaker 8: you know, as a as a quarterback, trying to advocate
Speaker 8: for what felt like we needed to try to take
Speaker 8: care of. And I encourage players to do it with
Speaker 8: the right spirit, with the right you know, the way
Speaker 8: to do it. It would tactically that's appropriate and that kind
Speaker 8: of thing. But but absolutely, Dan, if you're going to
Speaker 8: do a quarterback a team friendly deal over many many years,
Speaker 8: you better you got to tell me you're going to
Speaker 8: be part of those conversations. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Well. You can only imagine what Aaron Rodgers felt when
Speaker 2: he's watching the draft and they decided to take Jordan
Speaker 2: Love and they gave him a five minute.
Speaker 8: There's there's tough moments. I look, I'm not I'm not
Speaker 8: even try to avoid that or like, oh, don't you
Speaker 8: know I'm gonna go and advocate. You better not do.
Speaker 8: I'm not talking about threatening. What I'm trying to do
Speaker 8: is is build a partnership in personnel. Because what I
Speaker 8: what my experience was, and I'm sure it's still the same.
Speaker 8: We watched every player, every draft class come in the
Speaker 8: first ota, and we as players were all look at
Speaker 8: the guys that they drafted. I'm like, you know, he's
Speaker 8: pretty good or oh no, he sucks, you know right away,
Speaker 8: And like, as players, if we have that sense in
Speaker 8: fifteen minutes, I'm overstating it, but in a very short
Speaker 8: amount of time, why would we not be invited into
Speaker 8: at least give an opinion about what we see in
Speaker 8: a certain player a certain thing. I can think of
Speaker 8: Geno Carmazi or I mean, like, we had lots of
Speaker 8: draft guys at quarterback, Like what did you maybe let
Speaker 8: me work the guy out? Why would't you have the
Speaker 8: quarterback like that's to me, that's a big mistake that
Speaker 8: the league continues to make and not you know, kind
Speaker 8: of getting the opinion of the players that are on
Speaker 8: the field.
Speaker 2: I don't know how much you solve Shudor Sanders the past
Speaker 2: two seasons. But it feels like, you know, we get
Speaker 2: to this point of leading up to the draft and
Speaker 2: then you start to get opinions like we build you
Speaker 2: up and then we tear you down. And it certainly
Speaker 2: happens at that position. And I don't know how much
Speaker 2: of a role or factor in Deon Sanders with Shadoor Sanders,
Speaker 2: or maybe teams are, you know, saying negative things so
Speaker 2: he'll slide a little bit, which I always find amazing
Speaker 2: that Wow, we're not going to take him now. They said,
Speaker 2: you know some bad things about him. What do you
Speaker 2: think of Shudoor Sanders as an NFL quarterback?
Speaker 8: I feel like we better talk about Dion for a
Speaker 8: second because it's so much a part of the conversation.
Speaker 8: And I think I've I shared this with you, but
Speaker 8: if I haven't, I'll do it really quick. When he
Speaker 8: joined the forty nine Ers, he pulled me aside and said, Steve,
Speaker 8: I am the best teammate you'll ever have. I show
Speaker 8: up every day, I'm ready to practice, I'm ready to play.
Speaker 8: I'll always be there and I have your back. That's set. Now.
Speaker 8: The rest of it is a parade that I want
Speaker 8: you to just get some popcorn and enjoy because it's
Speaker 8: gonna be a good time, you know. And that's exactly
Speaker 8: what he did. So I take that and it's exactly
Speaker 8: who he was and who I think he is today.
Speaker 8: It's it's there's a parade, and get your popcorn and
Speaker 8: enjoy the pread. I think Shador is part of that,
Speaker 8: part of that same philosophy, right, It's like there's a
Speaker 8: prey to enjoy and the popcorn everything. But is he
Speaker 8: ready to play football? Is he going to do the
Speaker 8: hard work? Is he going to be in the classroom
Speaker 8: studying and memorizing and getting ready to I think those
Speaker 8: are all things that his dad would say, Hey, buddy,
Speaker 8: you better you better be ready to play ball. And
Speaker 8: so in that way, I'm not going to listen to
Speaker 8: the noise. I think that it's gonna be a The
Speaker 8: question is about the pure row talent. It's not going
Speaker 8: to be about his work ethic, his ability to you know,
Speaker 8: put the time into all that kind of stuff. I
Speaker 8: have no I have no worries about that.
Speaker 2: But you know, we used to say you had to
Speaker 2: be six four. You know, we're looking for that guy
Speaker 2: who's six four or sometype.
Speaker 8: The prototyl Dan was in the pocket delivering the football.
Speaker 8: That was because the game was different. The game is
Speaker 8: now like if you how many teams are still in
Speaker 8: the past, Like it is now a time where the
Speaker 8: quarterback has to leave the huddle every day down with
Speaker 8: a threat to with to attack the line of scrimmage
Speaker 8: and make the defense worry they're getting up free first
Speaker 8: downs and free touchdowns. And every great quarterback today the
Speaker 8: prototype is a guy that can run around, throw it
Speaker 8: all over the field, but yet can still do the
Speaker 8: traditional job of sitting in the pocket delivering the football.
Speaker 8: That's the That's Matt Patrick, Mahomes, that's the guy. And
Speaker 8: Shador he definitely fits the prototype. It might not be
Speaker 8: size and weight exactly, but absolutely a prototype kind of player.
Speaker 2: To give me the guy, the guy who was successful
Speaker 2: as a quarterback where you go it didn't make sense,
Speaker 2: but he made it work. Like Drew Brees always amazed
Speaker 2: me because I go, yeah, how how does he do this?
Speaker 2: And you know he was always had his head up.
Speaker 2: I mean he was always looking downfield, all around always.
Speaker 2: But is there somebody that you played with or against
Speaker 2: and you go, I don't know how he does it
Speaker 2: because it's just at his size, it's unique.
Speaker 8: Uh well, yeah, I mean when I when I met
Speaker 8: Russell Wilson and I was like, oh my gosh, that dude.
Speaker 8: I mean, I didn't realize how much taller I was.
Speaker 8: That made me feel good. But it's anyone. But I
Speaker 8: I admire people that are shorter that can play the
Speaker 8: game because you know, there is an element of you know,
Speaker 8: kind of visibility.
Speaker 2: But Drew Brees doesn't make sense because he's not fast,
Speaker 2: he's not quick.
Speaker 8: But but but but he lived in he lived in
Speaker 8: an era where processing was the king. Okay, it was
Speaker 8: the only king. And and in today's game, processing is vital,
Speaker 8: but it's it doesn't It's not all you have to have.
Speaker 8: You have to have the ability to run around threat
Speaker 8: in the line of scribage. That's what I'm trying to
Speaker 8: tell you is it's different. If you talk about a
Speaker 8: you know, a player that stood in one place his
Speaker 8: whole career back in the prototype days of a previous prototype.
Speaker 8: I don't know that that person would thrive in today's game.
Speaker 8: It's just that different.
Speaker 2: Would you be a Hall of Famer in today's game?
Speaker 8: This is Dan, Come on, this is my game. I
Speaker 8: mean I was an oddity back in the day. I
Speaker 8: was the guy who's like, he's a scrambler. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 8: Bill Watsh was the only one that I remember, and
Speaker 8: luckily I was close to him that looked at me
Speaker 8: in the eye and said, look, because you can run,
Speaker 8: you're going to be better. I believe it makes you
Speaker 8: more powerful, it makes you like the other one else
Speaker 8: was like, this is an oddity. Tie his legs up,
Speaker 8: you can't move. It's stupid. We don't need any it's
Speaker 8: crazy scrambling, crazy guy like I was. I was absolutely
Speaker 8: an audity. And today's game it is I am. I
Speaker 8: am the prototype, Dad, I am. I am ready to go.
Speaker 8: Just give me a call.
Speaker 2: And I'll are you better than Lamar Jackson in today's game?
Speaker 6: Oh no?
Speaker 8: Still?
Speaker 4: What is out there?
Speaker 8: We can't help? But can It's like it's like you're
Speaker 8: drawing like a like a fly to the to the point.
Speaker 2: Why are you you're fired up today?
Speaker 8: Like you?
Speaker 2: We want to test you a little bit here. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's all I'm doing.
Speaker 8: But I would say, while we're on with Lamar, you know,
Speaker 8: he's one of my favorites, and I think that he
Speaker 8: is the absolute prototype and his his greatness is not
Speaker 8: still yet found because he hasn't found them to be
Speaker 8: great and needed lots of help innovative minds and offense
Speaker 8: today with lots of talent around you that can run
Speaker 8: all over the field, like they're getting closer. Baltimore finally
Speaker 8: capitulated a couple of years ago and said, Okay, we're in.
Speaker 8: We're gonna get out of the sophisticated running game. We're
Speaker 8: gonna come. We're commit. We're gonna get you some some
Speaker 8: some uh, you know, offensive minds that are gonna help
Speaker 8: you thrive as a quarterback. And if and get some
Speaker 8: talent out of the wide receiver and really kind of
Speaker 8: down they're half what there's sixty percent of the way
Speaker 8: there of who Lamar Jackson could be. And if you
Speaker 8: want to compare, uh, he's if we raced my peek
Speaker 8: and his peak, he's quicker. There's no doubt. Man. He
Speaker 8: can make people miss. I can make people miss. Not
Speaker 8: like him, but if we raced, I don't know, I
Speaker 8: don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean like a forty or one hundred.
Speaker 8: I think like a forty or even a thirty, you
Speaker 8: know what I mean? Like ra like top end speed.
Speaker 8: You know what I mean? I don't know. We'll see
Speaker 8: I was. I was sneaky. I was sneaky. I ran
Speaker 8: down a lot of interceptors and then I cleaned up
Speaker 8: my mess. I have Tom look it up. No one
Speaker 8: ever I picked six was unheard of with me.
Speaker 2: Never Who would be?
Speaker 8: I think I was cleaning it up. But I could
Speaker 8: chase them down, and I dragged down a lot of gain.
Speaker 2: Who would be better at delivering papers? It would be
Speaker 2: faster you were, Lamar Jackson'd.
Speaker 8: Be tight man close because the collection day he had
Speaker 8: to be on the door. Who knows you taking people
Speaker 8: at the door. The kid can't find his mom, they
Speaker 8: don't have the money. I mean, it could get really
Speaker 8: fucked up.
Speaker 2: I hope I didn't set the tone for your day
Speaker 2: or ruin your day, because you know it. Certainly this
Speaker 2: is therapy for me.
Speaker 8: Dad. Someone wants to talk football at my house, This
Speaker 8: is like, oh.
Speaker 2: God, you're surrounded by women.
Speaker 10: I know, it's just uh, they love they love the
Speaker 10: game because they you know, like Taylor Swift said, it
Speaker 10: was okay, So.
Speaker 8: They're like.
Speaker 3: Yes, Todd Steve Young during his NFL career, Dodd, no, no.
Speaker 10: No, numb up and find out if there was a
Speaker 10: pick six No, not.
Speaker 2: Doing that time.
Speaker 4: I have the number of pick sixes.
Speaker 2: I thought, we need, no, we need He brought it up.
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 3: Eleven interceptions returned for touchdown?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 8: Wow, Wow, it's impossible. Wow, that is impossible. You know what.
Speaker 8: That's what scares me a little bit, Dan, is that
Speaker 8: when you live in your own little private Idaho and
Speaker 8: you think, you know what this is, how.
Speaker 2: Great you were great until you got on this Todd
Speaker 2: over in the corner.
Speaker 8: He just wants to just, you know, tear you downs.
Speaker 2: Todd. Can you see how many Montana through pick sixes?
Speaker 2: Here we gotta go, we have to go. Thank you, buddy.
Speaker 2: That's Steve Young back after this.
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Speaker 2: Last call for phone calls. What we learned, what's in
Speaker 2: store for tomorrow. I just went out to the kitchen
Speaker 2: and I was overseeing the making of the pies. Well,
Speaker 2: I think we have blueberry pies with whipped cream, one
Speaker 2: for Fritzy and one for a Marvin. That'll be coming
Speaker 2: up here towards the end of the show. Have that
Speaker 2: for you? Let me see. David in Iowa, Hi Dave,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6: Hey, DP say, I think with regard to your last day,
Speaker 6: and I think we're all assuming you're going to go
Speaker 6: through the super Bowl here. Yeah, I really want you
Speaker 6: to rethink or consider not coming back from Monday recap.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 6: The only reason I say that is that's what most
Speaker 6: shows would do. They feel the need to do that.
Speaker 6: But let's admit it, you guys aren't most shows. And
Speaker 6: I see a very Siginfeld esque send off on Friday
Speaker 6: with kind of the show dissolving and the audience wants more,
Speaker 6: but they're just not going to get it. Everyone walks
Speaker 6: their separate ways, and Pauli's stand out there saying see ya.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you, Dave. Chris in Kentucky, Hi Chris.
Speaker 11: Hey Dan five.
Speaker 2: Dan.
Speaker 12: It's not that I don't want your show to extend,
Speaker 12: but since I'll be listening to you.
Speaker 11: Back to the Mothership days, you stated that the last
Speaker 11: show would be the show that you told all the
Speaker 11: story that you normally couldn't tell. To tell all show,
Speaker 11: I think that's gonna be hard to do.
Speaker 12: If you've got guests that you get, you've got to
Speaker 12: tell these stories from right into Super Bowl. I mean,
Speaker 12: do we want a longer show, more DP or the
Speaker 12: last biggest epic show DP of all time?
Speaker 2: Well, we have time to think about that. I got
Speaker 2: to decide if I want to extend to that Super
Speaker 2: Bowl in Atlanta twenty eight Yes, Martin, do we do like.
Speaker 4: A big theater show sometimes at the end of the
Speaker 4: year and at the end of the show, Yeah, and
Speaker 4: just tell all your stories right then and there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I think that's probably what we'll do. This
Speaker 2: day in sports history A quick one.
Speaker 7: Bobby Thompson at the Braves broke his ankle sliding to
Speaker 7: the base during spring training. He was replaced with a
Speaker 7: rookie named Hank Aaron.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What did he ever do? Yeah? Yeah, that's it, all right,
Speaker 2: Just go around the room. What we learned on the program, Todd,
Speaker 2: would you learn today?
Speaker 3: I think I learned that Steve Young had four and
Speaker 3: Joe Montina had six career pick sixes. I'm getting different
Speaker 3: things from Pro Football Reference. Another story that I was
Speaker 3: looking at, you said, he said eleven, which is a
Speaker 3: number that keeps wanting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Why do you keep saying eleven you screwed up
Speaker 2: his baseball zero point three to two percent.
Speaker 3: As far as pick six is, Steve Young's got among
Speaker 3: the lowest of picks.
Speaker 2: Secks. What did I learn today?
Speaker 3: Steve Young's mom prince his brother when they were younger
Speaker 3: because they refused to collect the money from their paper.
Speaker 2: Round at Mako. They bring cars back to life for
Speaker 2: affordable paint. Johns, you screwed it up Tom twice. Dodger,
Speaker 2: you get a free estimate today. I'll better get Maco.
Speaker 2: Have a great day.