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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, Brian brought us, and bar Garcia and
Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is twos the October eighteenth, twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: season eighteen, episode number fifty three. Welcome to the latest
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Speaker 1: We got a couple of big, quick picture questions we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about today. Brian has a little game for
Speaker 1: us that I just heard about here, I guess at
Speaker 1: some point maybe in the second or third segment, and
Speaker 1: and we'll try to get you guys ready and kind
Speaker 1: of give you a good recap of that Philly game
Speaker 1: and what it means kind of going forward as they
Speaker 1: entered these next two weeks against opponents that you think
Speaker 1: Cowboys have a good chance of being able to beat.
Speaker 1: Let's start first with the topic. I think that everybody
Speaker 1: cares most about is where is Dak and is he
Speaker 1: going to be back this week? Nick, you were there
Speaker 1: with me, we were at the game Sunday watching Dak
Speaker 1: and him during his pregame workout. What do you think
Speaker 1: you looked like? What what was your impression as you
Speaker 1: watched him get that workout before the game. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: the biggest thing for me was the snaps that he
Speaker 1: was taking him under center. I mean that I thought
Speaker 1: was big. Just the ball. It's gonna slam into your
Speaker 1: thumb every time, you know, and you got to get
Speaker 1: up there and you throw it. And then the throws
Speaker 1: after that were good. I mean they were good throws.
Speaker 1: They were twenty yard, twenty five yard throws. I know Chris,
Speaker 1: our producer, was there getting some good video of it,
Speaker 1: and you know, he was there and it looked good,
Speaker 1: and it definitely looked good. Seven days away from playing again,
Speaker 1: so he's not playing. He wouldn't planning that night. As
Speaker 1: long as there's no setbacks, you know, you would think
Speaker 1: it would keep healing the right way. Do you think
Speaker 1: the Cowboy fans were bummed that he didn't try and
Speaker 1: give it a go against Philly. I mean after the
Speaker 1: third interception, I mean probably, but I mean, yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I don't know about your timeline, but my timeline was, Okay,
Speaker 1: he's out there throwing the ball around. He's taken snaps.
Speaker 1: That's the thing I noticed first, Nick, A good eye
Speaker 1: on your part, you know, the ball slamming into his hand,
Speaker 1: and you're going, okay, that part of it looks good, right,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean there were people there, you know,
Speaker 1: and I was answering like whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, there's
Speaker 1: a plan here, there's a plan. There was a ramp up,
Speaker 1: there was all this stuff, and there were people like, question,
Speaker 1: if he's like, he's healthy enough here, why does he
Speaker 1: not playing this game? I appreciate them not putting him
Speaker 1: in uniform if he's not going to start, because we've
Speaker 1: been down that road before, and I guarantee after that
Speaker 1: first interception, it would have been like, well that you're
Speaker 1: ready and everyone's looking and it's not happening, and it's
Speaker 1: never gonna happen, and you're never gonna I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: I'm glad they didn't do that. You know. I think
Speaker 1: I think sometimes fans and maybe even media to some degree,
Speaker 1: they fall into this fallacy of thinking that players are
Speaker 1: like maddened pieces. Right. Sure, once they're once a player
Speaker 1: is healthy and I'm putting up air quotes, once they're healthy,
Speaker 1: they're immediately ready to go. And we've seen sometimes this
Speaker 1: year with Michael Gallup, we saw it where a guy
Speaker 1: may be cleared bedically, but there still is a point
Speaker 1: of Okay, is he really ready to play football? And
Speaker 1: I think that's the part that I'm more concerned about is, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Dak made the thumb, may be fine. They may clear
Speaker 1: him with the thumb. The issue still becomes have they
Speaker 1: ramped up his shoulder and is throwing all the mechanics
Speaker 1: that are part of throwing. Have they ramped those up
Speaker 1: enough to where he can go out and play a
Speaker 1: game where he may throw the ball thirty to forty times.
Speaker 1: Didn't practice without hurting himself, and he didn't practice like
Speaker 1: if practice didn't matter, That's what Jason Garret would always say.
Speaker 1: We were for practice. If it didn't matter, they wouldn't
Speaker 1: do it. So he didn't practice all week and didn't
Speaker 1: practice with the guys um with with you know, with
Speaker 1: against the Eagles and with this receiving corps and all that.
Speaker 1: So I mean, yeah, you we're seeing if he can throw.
Speaker 1: See if you can throw it looks pretty good, throw
Speaker 1: it out there on the field. But now work him up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's funny. It's like, you know, we all we're all
Speaker 1: on social media game day during the week and all that. Well,
Speaker 1: every game day and even after the game, you see
Speaker 1: at least everything that I see our fans saying, we
Speaker 1: don't need Dak, keep back off, cut the guy, we
Speaker 1: don't need him, blah blah. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: now we see the game, him throwing in, Cooper Rush
Speaker 1: throwing in receptions and all that. Now everything on my
Speaker 1: timeline is Dac needs to come back. We need Dak
Speaker 1: get that back in there. Okay, thanks Cooper Rush. So
Speaker 1: it's just funny how quickly things change in depending on
Speaker 1: the outcome of the game and how he's playing. But
Speaker 1: I think that right now everything indicates that he will
Speaker 1: be playing this weekend. I don't see any other reason
Speaker 1: that he would not be. So walk me through what
Speaker 1: does he need to do this week? What do you
Speaker 1: think he needs to do this week? Is it just
Speaker 1: get through a week of practice. If you can do
Speaker 1: that and then you're ready to go. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: that sounds simple enough. I mean, like get ready. You know,
Speaker 1: that's that's what the plan is all along, is get
Speaker 1: a week full of throwing. He's he threw some. I
Speaker 1: think it was a Wednesday and Thursday, probably some Friday,
Speaker 1: and then you know, here he is Sunday, and now
Speaker 1: start to get ready to practice and mentally get ready
Speaker 1: for the game, get ready for the Lions defense and
Speaker 1: what they've got going on, and who's gonna play where
Speaker 1: and when Farniat comes in, you know, as an eligible blocker,
Speaker 1: where does he go in line up? I mean, it's
Speaker 1: all part of it. As opposed. It's not just a
Speaker 1: guy going out there Kenny throw to James Washington and
Speaker 1: Dennis Houston. Yeah, that looked good. Now, ramp it up,
Speaker 1: ramp it up. And I think a big thing to
Speaker 1: that is I guess he had in being clear medically.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, and that's something I know Mike McCarthy talked
Speaker 1: about it yesterday. I would assume that happens maybe today
Speaker 1: where he's just fully clear and given the green light
Speaker 1: where he can now take all the snaps with the
Speaker 1: first team and all that. So I think that's a
Speaker 1: big difference. If he wasn't clear before, how is he
Speaker 1: gonna go out there and go and be full go?
Speaker 1: So he should be good Now. He's still wearing that
Speaker 1: thing right the because I saw him he was throwing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw him at the game. He was wearing his
Speaker 1: something around the thumb. So I wonder if he's gonna
Speaker 1: take that off this week or if he's going to
Speaker 1: be practicing and maybe even playing with flex seal. You
Speaker 1: know you're seeing those commercials flex seal so he doesn't leak. Yeah,
Speaker 1: gorilla gorilla tape, whatever you want to put on there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I couldn't tell if it But what I
Speaker 1: couldn't tell. I couldn't tell if it was a pat,
Speaker 1: if it was padding, or if it was like a
Speaker 1: support support. It's more support, is what it really really is.
Speaker 1: It's and so yeah, I you know, he was throwing
Speaker 1: with it on, so it might be something that he's
Speaker 1: comfortable doing. I think you make a great point, though, Derek,
Speaker 1: about the Okay, it's not so much about the thumb,
Speaker 1: how about the back, how about the core, how about
Speaker 1: the shoulder, how about the lower body? Everything that takes
Speaker 1: to throw a ball. You know, the last thing you
Speaker 1: need is Dak Prescott out there playing and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's like his core strength's not very
Speaker 1: good right now? His back, Why does he look like
Speaker 1: he's you know, kind of flinching and doing stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: that's the last thing you need is something else, you know,
Speaker 1: to cause I mean, you know he might be yeah,
Speaker 1: throw the ball, but there's so much other things that
Speaker 1: go into throwing the stride, you know, how you rotate
Speaker 1: all these things, and if you're not ready to go,
Speaker 1: then don't throw it. And that's happened, and we saw it.
Speaker 1: He was coming back from the ankle injury all year,
Speaker 1: coming back, getting ready for camp, getting ready for camp,
Speaker 1: and then he gets the camp ankle's good. He tries
Speaker 1: to make some hail Mary throw because he's not really
Speaker 1: used to throwing all the time, and then he hurts
Speaker 1: his his shoulder whatever that was, you know, so like
Speaker 1: and so all that goes into play here, and he
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to throw obviously because of the thumb.
Speaker 1: So I think he will. I mean, he looked good,
Speaker 1: and he looked good throwing the ball that that looked
Speaker 1: really good. And but you also wondered too, is you
Speaker 1: know they patted him on the back afterwards like good job,
Speaker 1: and that was it. The Lions are probably gonna see, well,
Speaker 1: you know what, if he's gonna run with the ball,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm going for the ball and the
Speaker 1: thumb whatever, I'm gonna hit all of that. Because if
Speaker 1: your head coach is gonna bite your own knee, bite
Speaker 1: your kneecap, if that, if he's gonna help you up
Speaker 1: and bite your kneecap and punch you in the throat,
Speaker 1: he's gonna punch you. And he's gonna punch you in
Speaker 1: the thumb. No, Dan Campbell made it clear that how
Speaker 1: physical they're gonna play, and and so I would imagine
Speaker 1: if a guy's got a bump thumb, they're gonna test it.
Speaker 1: They'll bite it, bite it, kick it whatever. Let's say
Speaker 1: he does play this weekend, are we and you know
Speaker 1: this is something we've talked about it here on here
Speaker 1: about the mental aspect of things. So you guys feel
Speaker 1: that that's just gonna be a whole setback mentally because
Speaker 1: we've seen him before when he comes back in just
Speaker 1: kind of not being fully comfortable and confident and just
Speaker 1: you see, I'm not calling him that he's afraid, but
Speaker 1: you see the hesitation sometimes and trying to help me
Speaker 1: with a good word. I'm not saying he's scared, cautiousioussioussa's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good word. Is that different than who he
Speaker 1: usually is? Because I see dak as the kind of
Speaker 1: quarterback that it's one of the reasons why he has
Speaker 1: never been a turnover machine is because I do think
Speaker 1: he's very thoughtful, sometimes a little bit too much when
Speaker 1: it comes to I don't know the whole, whole whole.
Speaker 1: You know, he's waiting because he wants to make sure
Speaker 1: what he's seeing is what he's really seeing. So I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's really different when he comes back
Speaker 1: from an injury than just being who he is. I know,
Speaker 1: I've seen it. I've seem like a difference because you
Speaker 1: can be cautious but confident and and comfortable as opposed
Speaker 1: to being cautious but a little hesitating. I don't know
Speaker 1: what that guy was that played against Tampa. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't know that guy. I was expecting. I was expecting
Speaker 1: that all these things that had been happening to him,
Speaker 1: the shoulder, the ankle, the calf. I kind of feel like, Okay,
Speaker 1: just he's put all that behind him. Go be two
Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen, two seventeen, Go be Dak. That was
Speaker 1: through week eight of last season, you know, go be
Speaker 1: that guy. And I I think there's something to that. Amber.
Speaker 1: I think there's you know, maybe the organization in a
Speaker 1: way also says, dude, if you don't have to run,
Speaker 1: don't run, don't put yourself in harm's way. Do you
Speaker 1: know where to me? And I've said this a bunch
Speaker 1: to me. Dak Prescott, when he feels the game, when
Speaker 1: he feels the hits, when he feels the physicality and
Speaker 1: gets blood and mud and things on him, I think
Speaker 1: he's a better player. Yeah. I think he because because
Speaker 1: he's he used to be a guy that had body armor.
Speaker 1: You know, he was a big guy. You know, he
Speaker 1: bang into people and stuff. And now he's like, he
Speaker 1: loses weight, he looks good, the best shape of his life.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, no, no, I need the other guy that
Speaker 1: was kind of a tank that was fortunately leave that guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I go that's the guy that was kind of banging
Speaker 1: into people and and stiff arm and guys at the
Speaker 1: sidelines with his throwing hand, you know. I mean, just
Speaker 1: that's the guy I was thinking. Because he's not going
Speaker 1: to be an elite quarterback when it comes to touch
Speaker 1: and accuracy and all those things. What makes him different
Speaker 1: than the other guys is his toughness. And you take
Speaker 1: that toughness away from him, or his ability to play
Speaker 1: with a little recklessness. I think it makes him a
Speaker 1: different quarterback. And I don't know if it's necessarily a
Speaker 1: good thing with him. Yeah, the guy that won the
Speaker 1: playoff game in twenty eighteen against Seattle. You know, it
Speaker 1: was third down and dive in or twelve, and you
Speaker 1: know the field goal makes it a six point game,
Speaker 1: but a touchdown would put it away. And he just
Speaker 1: barrels through a third and fourteenm flips over the top
Speaker 1: and gets to the one that you need. That I
Speaker 1: missed that guy because because and you don't see every
Speaker 1: quarterback doing that. But I mean, let's let's call it
Speaker 1: what it is. I mean, Dak isn't the best passer
Speaker 1: in the league. We know that. That's not what if
Speaker 1: he was, he wouldn't have been drafted in the fourth round.
Speaker 1: That's not his game. But his game is all the
Speaker 1: intangibles that he was talking about the tank, that kind
Speaker 1: of that kind of player all into one is like
Speaker 1: a winner, and that's I think that they missed that
Speaker 1: right now. So not the guy that took that option
Speaker 1: against Tampa and got a first down and then was
Speaker 1: just looking to fall any any more than that from
Speaker 1: from this team with this offense. Yeah, and I agree
Speaker 1: with all that stuff. I just don't know if I
Speaker 1: think it's a confidence issue. I think he's a very
Speaker 1: confident player. I don't think sometimes going back to the
Speaker 1: Tampa game, I just think sometimes he doesn't play well.
Speaker 1: He didn't play well. That to me was not about confidence.
Speaker 1: He just didn't playboy, Yeah, exactly, and that happens like
Speaker 1: he just didn't play well. And confidence with this left
Speaker 1: tackle that's never played left tackle. Now maybe and now
Speaker 1: you see him maybe. I thought what Jerry said on
Speaker 1: the radio this morning one or five three fan, I mean,
Speaker 1: talked about Dak being ready, looks good and all that.
Speaker 1: But I thought what he said about this is a
Speaker 1: better football team than it was in Week one. This
Speaker 1: was a This is a team that's learned how to play.
Speaker 1: They had to, they learned how to play differently. They've
Speaker 1: the defense has come together in a way we didn't expect.
Speaker 1: The offensive line is now better, a little bit more cohesive.
Speaker 1: I think he had there's more trust than a Noah Brown.
Speaker 1: Guys like that. You know that the receiving corps can
Speaker 1: help can win. The way that Zeke's running the ball
Speaker 1: pretty well, I think that there's just the kickers making
Speaker 1: kicks that's not fifty nine yards and you know off grass.
Speaker 1: I think that there's just more confidence about this football team.
Speaker 1: And so my question now becomes what changes when Dak
Speaker 1: is back or should it change? Like we've seen how
Speaker 1: this offense is morphed. Has it morphed because it needed
Speaker 1: to or is it morphed because it is the better
Speaker 1: way to play football based upon what they have and
Speaker 1: what they've created now as a football Real quick, before
Speaker 1: we get into that, let me let me reward what
Speaker 1: I was trying to point out, because I don't like
Speaker 1: using the word confidence because he's a very confident guy.
Speaker 1: And I don't like using the word like being scared,
Speaker 1: because I don't think he like he's a competitor and
Speaker 1: he will go out there and compete. What concerns me is,
Speaker 1: now here's another injury that has sidelined and sidelined him, Yeah,
Speaker 1: on the bench basically, so he's watching. So it's just
Speaker 1: like how many injuries have we gone through now? And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's injury prone or anything, it's just
Speaker 1: it's bad luck. Part of the game. It happens. But
Speaker 1: the fact of how many instances now he has to
Speaker 1: be he's had to watch the game from the side,
Speaker 1: And you know what that causes in you when you
Speaker 1: are a competitor, an athlete, anyone who likes to compete.
Speaker 1: If you're seeing your team, whether it's winning or struggling,
Speaker 1: you want to be out there. So it's just that
Speaker 1: mentality of like, Okay, what kind of hesitation does that
Speaker 1: create now in you wanting to protect yourself and not
Speaker 1: allow yourself to get injured again to where now you're
Speaker 1: back out of the field and the game. So it's
Speaker 1: just like that mental aspect, can he be full go,
Speaker 1: can he run? Can he get out of the pocket?
Speaker 1: Use his feed? The ability one of those things that
Speaker 1: you just mentioned Brian, his aggressiveness, toughness, and just being
Speaker 1: himself one hundred percent. So it's it's it's a tough
Speaker 1: thing because it's not just physical now it's the mental
Speaker 1: side of things. So it would be really interesting to
Speaker 1: see how he really returns, because I know he's eager.
Speaker 1: He's been kind of saying it to the media every
Speaker 1: time he walks by. You know, he's eager to go
Speaker 1: out there and be full go. So anyways, going back
Speaker 1: to your question, Sorry, no, I think that's fair, and
Speaker 1: I agree with your point that I don't know that
Speaker 1: it's that. I agree that I don't think it's a
Speaker 1: confidence matter from his standpoint of just like his confidence
Speaker 1: in himself. But I can agree where I do think
Speaker 1: there are whether it's pressure from internal whether there are
Speaker 1: coaches and front office people who are like, Dak, we
Speaker 1: need you so kind of chill on all that or something,
Speaker 1: you know, those kind of things, or even as you said, Nick,
Speaker 1: maybe confidence in the people around him, like, am I
Speaker 1: sure this guy's gonna get this block? Am I sure
Speaker 1: this receiver is gonna get open? And what I'm seeing
Speaker 1: is what I'm actually seeing, Like there can be some
Speaker 1: of those kind of confidence issues. I agree with that.
Speaker 1: How about the confidence he's not going to get hurt again?
Speaker 1: You know that confidence on his part of confidence that
Speaker 1: his part, you know, his part, I mean you talk
Speaker 1: about confidence, maybe the lack of like, man if I
Speaker 1: run this ball, I might get hurt. Maybe I don't
Speaker 1: need to run this ball. You know that. I think
Speaker 1: there's something to that. He's had something. He went from
Speaker 1: never getting hurt to like, I mean, no, three injuries. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean to the point where you now do segments
Speaker 1: you talk about is the injury prone? You do? You have?
Speaker 1: You have segments and people say, well, is he unlucky?
Speaker 1: Is the injury prone? Yes? No, all this and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. But I your your confidence thing. I think
Speaker 1: it's right. I mean, it's not confident I'm going to
Speaker 1: go out there and play. Well. The confidence is if
Speaker 1: I go out there and play the way I want
Speaker 1: to play, am I gonna get her? You know? I
Speaker 1: think that's the thing that I think that you know,
Speaker 1: he has to and and and Nick's right that that
Speaker 1: option run was okay, I could, I had a lane,
Speaker 1: I took it, I got five yards and I went
Speaker 1: down quickly, you know. I mean there's there's time to
Speaker 1: be smart and then there's times to be like go
Speaker 1: for it. And I don't know, I think the go
Speaker 1: for it guy was a better player. That's just me,
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna take our first record to come back.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get some questions from Brian's got a quick
Speaker 1: little game for us, What day when we come right back?
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Speaker 1: kind of miss when you used to when you used
Speaker 1: to work here full time. You'd like bring us like
Speaker 1: different dishes. You'd make up some gumbo and that stuff.
Speaker 1: Um So I'm kind of wondering, like, is at some
Speaker 1: point is that gonna be something we do on the break?
Speaker 1: Like I know you're not here full time, but that
Speaker 1: could be you know, tell me we'll get that done
Speaker 1: for just challenged them. And now like in a week,
Speaker 1: he's gonna come in with all that, he's gonna have
Speaker 1: an apron on and he's gonna have something cooking over here,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna be right here on it. Like I'm
Speaker 1: not running to the training table today. I'm eating whatever
Speaker 1: Brian's making. Tell you what, let me know when it's
Speaker 1: Mediterranean Day here and I'll cook something up for you guys.
Speaker 1: How about you and me and Nick on Mediterranean Day?
Speaker 1: We usually are going to do something. How was the
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Speaker 1: about to remind you. Thank you. Here we go. A
Speaker 1: g oh boy who benefits most from DAK returning m
Speaker 1: who benefits could be a coach player who benefits the most, fans,
Speaker 1: who benefits the most? Well, um playing his wife. She
Speaker 1: didn't have to. She's short term because next year, I'm
Speaker 1: sure she wants some more games. Increase that paycheck for
Speaker 1: next year. I don't think he's gonna be making the
Speaker 1: south of a million dollars next year. Okay, go ahead, Sorry,
Speaker 1: who could who benefits the most? Who benefits the most?
Speaker 1: Ag Uh? Well, I said Dalton shoals if it's back.
Speaker 1: I don't know his injury status right now? Sound like
Speaker 1: Jerry does he eat there? Jerry's like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. I was a little surprised.
Speaker 1: It just seems that as soon as I mean, he
Speaker 1: just completely disappeared with Cooper Rush and you got other
Speaker 1: guys going in, I mean Jake Ferguson and all that,
Speaker 1: he just I think Dalton and he's in the franchise
Speaker 1: tag big here for him, So what was going on? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But as far as like guys who because we don't
Speaker 1: know his status. Really, as far as guys for this weekend,
Speaker 1: I would like to think in between Michael Gallup and
Speaker 1: City Lamb, I think their game just kind of takes
Speaker 1: the next level, a next step. I mean, they just
Speaker 1: they just start playing better together. When Dak was in
Speaker 1: there the first game, even though it wasn't a good outcome,
Speaker 1: Cide Lamb was still struggling and we didn't see that
Speaker 1: come to fruition. Him being the number one receiver. So
Speaker 1: I think that now with the addition of Michael Gallup
Speaker 1: and you got them three together now with Dak, I
Speaker 1: think their game just kind of goes up, or at
Speaker 1: least that's what I hope that they as a receiver
Speaker 1: corps just get better with Dak back in the mix. Derek,
Speaker 1: I actually think of Ceedee Lamb, and the reason why
Speaker 1: is because Ceede Lamb right now, this organization is trying
Speaker 1: to figure out if Ceede Lamb is truly a number
Speaker 1: one receiver in another two years a year and a half,
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to make a decision on do you
Speaker 1: pay him Davante Adams kind of money like, or are
Speaker 1: you paying him money closer to Cedric Wilson like what
Speaker 1: is he? And I think if he's going to show
Speaker 1: that he can be a number one receiver, a true
Speaker 1: number one receiver and demand that kind of muny money,
Speaker 1: then I think that means that he's gonna need his quarterback,
Speaker 1: and I think that's why Dak was very important to
Speaker 1: him right now. My answer would be this is a
Speaker 1: kind of contingent on him being the guy that he
Speaker 1: was and running the ball. But I think it could
Speaker 1: be Zeke specifically on the play like the RPOs that
Speaker 1: we've seen where if your quarterback, if your quarterback is
Speaker 1: not going to run and z Cooper Rush does not run,
Speaker 1: then then I think it just kind of jams up
Speaker 1: the middle and he didn't. Zeke did a nice running,
Speaker 1: but I think if you have a little bit more
Speaker 1: threat to run, I think that would help the running backs,
Speaker 1: particularly ze Catherine. An honorable mention sure, Kellen Moore. I
Speaker 1: think Kellen Moore wants to get back and throwing the
Speaker 1: ball a little bit more, and I think this allows
Speaker 1: him to do it. Maybe, So I hope that's I
Speaker 1: hope they all hope the fans been a fit too.
Speaker 1: That'd be nice. Okay, Uh, Derek, I'll go with you
Speaker 1: on this one, right, Who's been better? Tyler Smith or
Speaker 1: Daret's Armstrong. Hmm, that's a good one. They both have
Speaker 1: some warts. Still, Um, I would probably have to say
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith just because I think when Tyler Smith is
Speaker 1: bad you notice it more obviously because you see those
Speaker 1: poor play. Yeah, and that's the thing, Like the team
Speaker 1: may have. He may have one or two really bad
Speaker 1: plays in the game, but I think Duran's probably has
Speaker 1: more of those bad plays, you just don't notice them
Speaker 1: as readily. So if I had to say one or
Speaker 1: the other, I would go with Tyler Smith. I think
Speaker 1: he has been really, really good for a rookie. Nick,
Speaker 1: that's a good one. And it's and you only do
Speaker 1: that because you probably like caught yourself, like you it's
Speaker 1: probably like, Okay, who are these you know? Like these
Speaker 1: two are tough? These are questions I get watching that
Speaker 1: to all twenty two. Yeah, and it's and it's good because,
Speaker 1: like you said, there's times when when when Tyler doesn't
Speaker 1: do well, you kind of see it, you don't see it,
Speaker 1: and he doesn't. He doesn't have the stats that like
Speaker 1: Armstrong has. But five sacks, a blocked punt, and a
Speaker 1: blocked field goal, I want to, I want to, honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go upstairs. I'm gonna have the PR department
Speaker 1: find that when the last time someone's had five sacks,
Speaker 1: a blocked punt, and a block field goal in the
Speaker 1: same year. He might be number one. He might be
Speaker 1: and we're not even halfway through the year, not even close. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's been from a stat standpoint, I know
Speaker 1: he's not the best on them against the run. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Dorrance on that. Just you know,
Speaker 1: Nate Newton just texting me and see it Armstrong. So
Speaker 1: he agrees with you, Well there's a first you know what.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call that a moral victory that he agrees
Speaker 1: with me, Well I disagree. There we go, There we go. No,
Speaker 1: I think for sure, if to me would be and
Speaker 1: I love everything that Dorian's have been doing. But when
Speaker 1: you take into the consideration the guys who are next
Speaker 1: to him, the guys are on the side of the defense,
Speaker 1: playing with him, the opportunities that that creates for him,
Speaker 1: not to take any credit away from him, but also
Speaker 1: adding that he's a veteran. Now how many times I
Speaker 1: forget what year he's on currently fourth, fourth year in
Speaker 1: the league. But then now you look at okay Tyler Smith,
Speaker 1: the fact that he's a rookie, the fact that usually
Speaker 1: he's going one on one on situations like that, the
Speaker 1: fact that he's limited his mistakes. Yes, there are times,
Speaker 1: but to see how well because I didn't think he
Speaker 1: was gonna be playing the way that he is playing
Speaker 1: that quickly. We saw the potential, but I didn't think
Speaker 1: he would be as good as he's been and also
Speaker 1: considering what happened during training at like you didn't know
Speaker 1: what position he's gonna be add specifically, So taking all
Speaker 1: that into account, I think that he deserves a lot
Speaker 1: more credit for that aspect that he's a rookie. He's
Speaker 1: been doing a very very good job, and the penalties
Speaker 1: have not really been a full issue, like okn Like
Speaker 1: you know, it's not like we're sitting here week after
Speaker 1: week talking about holding penalties, and that was an area
Speaker 1: of concern that people were questioning and wondering why if
Speaker 1: that was gonna be a negative aspect of things for
Speaker 1: him when he started the season, Nick, fifth year for
Speaker 1: Duran's arm drawing by the way, fifth, yea is he
Speaker 1: and he's and he had seven and a half sacks
Speaker 1: his first four seasons and now he has five this year.
Speaker 1: So he's up next year, not this year, Yeah, this
Speaker 1: year and then one more you got it? Okay, Dan
Speaker 1: Quinn and ad on that one coaching him up. Nick,
Speaker 1: Even if opponents don't run RPOs on offense, do they
Speaker 1: try something? After watching the Eagles hold Parsons in check,
Speaker 1: I think that I think what they're gonna try to
Speaker 1: do is see figure out the ways to get him
Speaker 1: in coverage. I thought that that was was key. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was, he was uncoverage a lot, and he's just
Speaker 1: not the same. I mean, he's good, he's good at
Speaker 1: doing it. He's he's an athletic freak. But he doesn't
Speaker 1: hurt you as much as he does. He doesn't dominate
Speaker 1: the game when you're taking out a tight end unless
Speaker 1: it's a Kelsey or a Kittle or something that is
Speaker 1: the main part of what they do, which I don't
Speaker 1: even know if he would be able to do that. So, um,
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna try to find mismatches. I think
Speaker 1: what it'll do is it's going to force dan Quinn's
Speaker 1: hand to say, you know what, we gotta get him
Speaker 1: as rushing. We just gotta get him a defensive end
Speaker 1: most of the time, or rushing up the middle or whatever.
Speaker 1: But yeah, there was something there to get him out
Speaker 1: in coverage. And then and he gets frustrated. And when
Speaker 1: he's frustrated, I don't know what who it hurts the most.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it hurts him or if it
Speaker 1: hurts the tackle he's going up against on the next play.
Speaker 1: Because he pissed off Mike is pretty good, but he
Speaker 1: does kind of get in his own head a little bit. Yeah. Look,
Speaker 1: I think I think the issue here or that the
Speaker 1: interesting part for the Cowboys is they do have an
Speaker 1: issue when it comes to stopping the run. And I
Speaker 1: do think that if you're watching it, you say, Wow,
Speaker 1: what the Eagles are doing with the RPOs. That's something
Speaker 1: we can really kind of consider. I think the problem
Speaker 1: is most teams don't have the personnel to be able
Speaker 1: to just do that right. The quarterback makes a huge difference.
Speaker 1: Isn't going to be scaring you as much like if
Speaker 1: if he opts if he opts to keep the ball. Now,
Speaker 1: here's where it could it get interesting. Do the Giants
Speaker 1: start using that when they play the Cowboys? Because they
Speaker 1: do have a quarterback that's fairly mobile and they have
Speaker 1: a running back that's dangerous, And so when you start
Speaker 1: thinking about it from that perspective, there are certain teams
Speaker 1: that maybe they wouldn't be great at it, but they
Speaker 1: may use it a little bit to kind of in
Speaker 1: critical moments maybe get I don't know if be like
Speaker 1: their quarterback is that, but are you scared about anybody else?
Speaker 1: I would be like, don't let fields get off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who else is gonna get a gummery He's gonna run
Speaker 1: it up the middle or whatever. I'm a little less
Speaker 1: concerned about him taking it. Yeah, they don't have because
Speaker 1: your quarterback in Phillies, I think the quarterback running almost
Speaker 1: scared and more than miles centers. Yeah, which has been
Speaker 1: miles and centers is benefiting all year because of its exactly.
Speaker 1: But I don't think that golf is scares you more
Speaker 1: than than or Jones. Doesn't. Daniel Jones is scary more
Speaker 1: than Saquon Barkley. No, But Daniel Jones, if you don't
Speaker 1: pay attention to him, can can break you on a
Speaker 1: couple of So I do think there are a couple
Speaker 1: of teams that can do it. Most teams they play
Speaker 1: won't have that ability. I think that. I mean, just
Speaker 1: as much as offenses are going to be looking at
Speaker 1: the Eagles tape and seeing how they were able to
Speaker 1: kind of neutralize Mica Parsons and play and attacking that way,
Speaker 1: I think that our guys are gonna be looking at
Speaker 1: that film quite a lot and trying to figure out
Speaker 1: how to improve and get better in that aspect. So, yes,
Speaker 1: I can see how offenses start kind of trying to
Speaker 1: imitate some of the things that the Eagles were able
Speaker 1: to do against the Cowboys. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I think that this is this is a week that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys kind of get better at that and improve,
Speaker 1: and we haven't seen them kind of that has been
Speaker 1: the area that they have not been good even since
Speaker 1: last year, the running defense, stopping the run. But seeing
Speaker 1: Mike and putting that film up there, I know that
Speaker 1: he's gonna be pissed off seeing that in front of
Speaker 1: his teammates and kind of altogether, not even not just
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, but everybody in that room just trying to
Speaker 1: figure out a way to really clean things up and
Speaker 1: improve in that aspect that time. One more ag How
Speaker 1: winnable is the NFC this year? The conference? How winnable
Speaker 1: is the conference? I think there are some um Man,
Speaker 1: I wish you guys spoke Spanish because I have a
Speaker 1: word I want to use and I can't think of
Speaker 1: the English word. But you know, when you're in the
Speaker 1: desert and just kind of like you start seeing things
Speaker 1: are not there. Yes, yes, I think there are some
Speaker 1: teams that are like that, and I think that, um
Speaker 1: the Cowboys can very much take the lead and and
Speaker 1: win out. I think the Cowboys, even though on the
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball, obviously you're you're getting Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott back. I think I hope it's going to improve
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. But I think that once
Speaker 1: they do that, the defense is going to be it's
Speaker 1: gonna keep playing better and better every week. I do
Speaker 1: believe so. But with the help of the offense putting
Speaker 1: in pulling their weight as well, I think that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys can definitely take the lead. And it's not it's
Speaker 1: not anything that's too far fetched for me. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think I think the Cowboys have a chance that
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to try to catch the Eagles. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a tough because the way they're playing right
Speaker 1: now and their schedules not not that great either, neither's
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I feel like the Cowboys will probably be
Speaker 1: the fifth seed in the playoffs and go to some
Speaker 1: team that they'll have a better record than, though they'll
Speaker 1: be well, we'll be talking about competition committee, like should
Speaker 1: this be the rule? You should you have a higher
Speaker 1: a better record and still have to play a road
Speaker 1: game or whatever. But you know, I feel like that's
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen this year. I think there's good news
Speaker 1: and bad news. The good news is, right now, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are four and two and they're third in their
Speaker 1: in their division. They're still the fourth best team in
Speaker 1: the NFC right now. Like you look at it, there's
Speaker 1: only one team outside of the NFC East that's in
Speaker 1: the top four. That's Minnesota at five and one, got
Speaker 1: the Eagles, the Giants at five and one, Dallas at
Speaker 1: four and two. Nobody else has four wins other than
Speaker 1: those four teams, right and so that's the good news.
Speaker 1: The bad news and I don't even know if you
Speaker 1: call it bad news, but what you do know about
Speaker 1: the NFL is we're only at week six right there
Speaker 1: are some teams right now that are down in at
Speaker 1: three and three range that will be at the top
Speaker 1: or near the top of this conference by the time
Speaker 1: we get to in the season. You look at a
Speaker 1: team like forty nine ers, they are typically they get
Speaker 1: hot as the season goes. I think the Rams, as
Speaker 1: a season goes, they're gonna get hotter. Buccaneers, as a
Speaker 1: season goes, they're gonna get hotter. I don't think the
Speaker 1: Packers are necessarily in that boat, but it wouldn't surprise
Speaker 1: me if they figure it out and they get hot. Like,
Speaker 1: there are teams that are gonna show up as the
Speaker 1: season keeps going, because that's what happens in the NFL.
Speaker 1: So yes, right now, you look at this, the NFC
Speaker 1: East is basically running through this conference and they are
Speaker 1: gonna be a force to reckon with in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: But I also think there are gonna be some other
Speaker 1: teams that are gonna pop out here that are gonna
Speaker 1: get really good as the season goes, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: be able to challenge for everybody in the NFC. Thanks, guys,
Speaker 1: appreciate you. All right'm gonna take our final break. We'll
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Speaker 1: going to go around the table before we end today's show.
Speaker 1: It's a very simple question. Are you more optimistic or
Speaker 1: pessimistic following Sunday's game? Optimistic? I think this is I mean,
Speaker 1: the team they beat themselves in a game, you know,
Speaker 1: where they had a chance to win. They rallied them
Speaker 1: themselves back in it. I think, you know, the Eagles,
Speaker 1: you know, give it the Eagles credit for taking it
Speaker 1: to them and win in the game. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's gonna be worried about playing them again.
Speaker 1: And you know, you maybe go play him again in
Speaker 1: the playoffs and go up there and play it again.
Speaker 1: I don't think that, you know, you should be discouraged
Speaker 1: by it. You look at the schedule, it's coming up,
Speaker 1: You're gonna get better at certain positions. I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean to be sitting if you look at the big picture,
Speaker 1: to sit it four and two, where they are and
Speaker 1: what they've been through and what's coming up next, I
Speaker 1: think that it's they're gonna be in good shape. Just
Speaker 1: look at the schedule. Just look at the schedule and
Speaker 1: find find three more losses. I mean, it'll happen probably,
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying twelve and five looks pretty good
Speaker 1: again because it's tough to come up with three legitimate
Speaker 1: losses on this schedule. Yeah, it's interesting the teams you
Speaker 1: thought would be tough games like Indianapolis may not be
Speaker 1: as tough as you thought that Green Bay, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: not be as tough as you thought. Me. I'd like
Speaker 1: to see. I'm gonna see it first before they actually go.
Speaker 1: Bay beat Obi Wan Kenobi up there in Lambeau. But
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they can do it. I'm definitely
Speaker 1: optimistic of what the season holes. That attack is gonna
Speaker 1: come back. No, I think that. I mean seeing the
Speaker 1: way that they played, and again, the offense has not
Speaker 1: been producing points for you and scoring points and all that,
Speaker 1: so that's definitely a problem. But seeing the way that
Speaker 1: they were able to handle things without your starting quarterback
Speaker 1: was impressive. So in the and I think the defense, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a bad week last week, but they still
Speaker 1: held up and they were still able to come back
Speaker 1: in that second half and still compete. So I think
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of things to be optimistic about
Speaker 1: at this point of the season, especially with the things
Speaker 1: that are just finally to start piecing together. As far
Speaker 1: as the offense, we haven't seen that yet other than
Speaker 1: that little bit of taste at the beginning of the year.
Speaker 1: But you can just based the rest of the season
Speaker 1: on just a first loss, you know, against Tampa. So
Speaker 1: I'm optimistic. I don't know how you cannot be optimistic.
Speaker 1: You beat the two Super Bowl teams with backup quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: Yet with your backup quarterback you found a way to
Speaker 1: be four and one with your backup quarterback. You went
Speaker 1: to Philadelphia and they had been killing people with their
Speaker 1: their quarterback and they're tied end. Neither one of them
Speaker 1: were really a factor in that football game. You know,
Speaker 1: you didn't tackle well enough in the game. You didn't
Speaker 1: really do enough offensively there. They held you check throwing
Speaker 1: the ball in your receivers. That's something that should be
Speaker 1: a concern. But the fact that you're able to like
Speaker 1: survive what you did the last five weeks and to
Speaker 1: live and tell about it, how could you not be optimistic?
Speaker 1: This thing could be O in six and we're all
Speaker 1: talking about when the draft show is going to start
Speaker 1: or you know, what are you gonna do? What are
Speaker 1: you gonna do with the trade deadline, Who are you
Speaker 1: gonna get rid of contracts? So they're gonna fire the
Speaker 1: coach all these things? Nah, you got to be optimistic
Speaker 1: what's going on right now. And also, you know, we
Speaker 1: don't always go back and remember different decisions that are made.
Speaker 1: But I think you got to give uh, Jerry, will
Speaker 1: McClay Mike McCarthy credit for looking at what's out there
Speaker 1: and going, well, why is Cooper Rush going to be
Speaker 1: your back up? And because their mind was if if
Speaker 1: something happened to Dak, he can win games, and whether
Speaker 1: or not anyone believed that or not here, um they
Speaker 1: did and and and then then they had to they
Speaker 1: had you had to come you know, out and really
Speaker 1: see who could you know if that could happen? And
Speaker 1: it did. So I mean we don't always think back
Speaker 1: to those decisions like that, but they you know, they
Speaker 1: decided he was better than Will Greer and both of
Speaker 1: them were better than anyone that was available and out there,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's it's proved to be a really
Speaker 1: good decision. So you know, we don't always go back
Speaker 1: and remember that. They should get credit for that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think to me, I think it's you guys need
Speaker 1: to hit the nail on the head. I don't think
Speaker 1: there's any way you really can't be optimistic about what
Speaker 1: you've seen so far. The one thing I do think
Speaker 1: I know here is that there is one, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: clearing weakness of this defense, and I think when Dad
Speaker 1: comes back, it will negate that to some degree, which
Speaker 1: is their run defense. I think if you can score
Speaker 1: more points, you will put pressure on teams where they
Speaker 1: can't just say, hey, we're just gonna go with these
Speaker 1: short passing games, a quick passing game and run the ball.
Speaker 1: You can put them in situations where they really are
Speaker 1: going to have to get more aggressive offensively, which plays
Speaker 1: right into your hands. And I think that's something that
Speaker 1: was kind of starting to concern me as time went on,
Speaker 1: is that I think teams were realizing they can't really
Speaker 1: have a choice. You can't play the kind of game
Speaker 1: you want to play where you want to take a
Speaker 1: little time and make those strolls down field against this defense.
Speaker 1: Here's something that you know when you look at the division,
Speaker 1: Giant Eagles, Washington. Washington's kind of out of it right now.
Speaker 1: But you know, if you rank the six games that
Speaker 1: you have to play in the division, how tough they are.
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys have already played the two toughest
Speaker 1: at Philly at the Giants. The next one would probably
Speaker 1: be Philly at home, and then Giants at home, and
Speaker 1: then at Washington and then Washington at home. The Eagles
Speaker 1: and Giants can't say that, you know, they can't say
Speaker 1: that they've faced the toughest part of their division just yet.
Speaker 1: They haven't gone to Dallas yet, they haven't even played
Speaker 1: each other yet. So I mean, I just think when
Speaker 1: you look at it two and one in the division,
Speaker 1: you've played your toughest games. Like Brian said, you played
Speaker 1: the Rams on the road, you played the Bengals. Those
Speaker 1: teams are probably going to get up in there that
Speaker 1: they have played the toughest part of their schedule, I
Speaker 1: think already, and now they get a chance. I mean,
Speaker 1: look at Detroit, Chicago, Indianapolis, the Texans, the Giants at
Speaker 1: home at Jacksonville. They should really have a good chance
Speaker 1: for eleve and twelve wins. Yeah, you just worry about
Speaker 1: late in the season at Jacksonville game games before Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: and so you don't want to you don't need to
Speaker 1: let down in that that could be yea all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you're thinking, Okay, hey, you got a big
Speaker 1: key divisional matchup coming up Christmas Eve, and then you
Speaker 1: go to Jacksonville the week before and poop in the bed.
Speaker 1: Drew Bledsoe was the quarterback the last time the Cowboys
Speaker 1: played there, and I think there was going to be
Speaker 1: a fan or a million that are going to be
Speaker 1: at the game for the Cowboys. I guarantee you the
Speaker 1: Cowboys will have more fans than that game in Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: And I mean, now Jacksonville is playing better, but I
Speaker 1: mean it'll not be like a true road game. One
Speaker 1: other thing to note about the Giants and the Eagles,
Speaker 1: they don't even play each other until December. Really, both
Speaker 1: their games are in December. They play on December eleventh
Speaker 1: when we play the Texans, and then they play at
Speaker 1: the end of the season, the final game of the season.
Speaker 1: So that's interesting. That's interesting that they won't even match
Speaker 1: up until you get to the end of the season.
Speaker 1: One of them obviously has to take a loss in
Speaker 1: those two games, and so that's that's going to also
Speaker 1: shake things up in fcas because a lot of those teams,
Speaker 1: like you said, have always we like to tie in
Speaker 1: this league. All right, appreciate you guys join us, Welcome back. Tomorrow,
Speaker 1: we'll get into Cowboys versus Lions, Lions, Cowboys versus Lions.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the Lions offense versus Dallas defense.
Speaker 1: Till then for Nick even Brian brought us Amber Garcia.
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