1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club, flowing out of the backfield. 3 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: They's flowing down the sidelines. He's Hanging with the Boys, 4 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: presented by Wingstop where flavor gets its wings. Hey, Hey, hey, 5 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: it's wacky wild Wingstop Wednesday. Welcome to Hanging with the 6 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: Boys where I guess for one more day, it's hanging 7 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: with the Boys and a girl. Welcome to the show. 8 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: Ambar Garcia, Danny McCrae, Rob Phillips, I am Shannon Gross, 9 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: and our lovely producer Chris Beam. Just notify me that 10 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: it is actually Wingstop Wednesday at the Star. They have 11 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: catered to our employees that are that are working at 12 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: the Star today. So shout out to Wingstop for spreading 13 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: the love. Usually we're the only ones that get to 14 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: eat free food from them, So shouts out to wing Stop. 15 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: How's everybody doing today? Good fants great? Yeah, okay, just 16 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: I'll jump in. Let me tell you how the show works. 17 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,919 Speaker 1: Just because it announces me as the host on this show, 18 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: this is a participation that equal participation from everyone on 19 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: this on this this call, or whatever we're saying on 20 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: this show. So the way it works is I say, 21 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: how are y'all doing today? And then everyone responds with, however, 22 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: you're doing today? So let's try this again. How are 23 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: y'all doing today? Everybody at the same time. Yeah, that's 24 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: gonna say good coach, good coach, amazing, it's something we're extatic. 25 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: It's right, good good, And it's funny that you, uh 26 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: that y'all bring up Coach Garrett, a good buddy of 27 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: mine that uh he was the head coach here in 28 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: Dallas at brook Haven's baseball team. He huge Cowboys fan, 29 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 1: and uh he sent me a screenshot this morning ten 30 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: years ago today he posted on Facebook. Uh, you know, 31 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: second interview I heard from Coach Garrett. I really liked 32 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: this guy. And then ten years later, Oh, oh man, listen, 33 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 1: I ain't know good we who going to Jason Garrett 34 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: slander here? No, I'm not slandering Jason Garrett. I actually 35 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: I actually liked Jason Garrett. I thought, you know, a 36 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: lot of people gave him a hard time for the 37 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: you know, for being consistent. Really is what a lot 38 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: of people gave him a hard time for. I actually 39 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: appreciated his consistency, and as you know, He never wavered 40 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: from the message. He never you know, wavered from the 41 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: attitude that he had. A lot of people had a 42 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: problem with it, but I actually, you know, appreciated that 43 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: you always knew what you were going to get. And 44 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: you know, as an employee, I mean, he wasn't my boss, 45 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: but you know, I guess technically he's the player's boss. 46 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: As an employee, I've always appreciated, um, you know, a 47 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: boss that you know was nobs. You knew exactly what 48 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: you were going to get every day that you came 49 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: to work, and you know they were you know, you 50 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: got that consistency. So I was always on the Coach 51 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: Garrett train. Now when it came to Sundays. You know, 52 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: obviously there were some questionable calls that were made and 53 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: decisions and things like that, but as a person in 54 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: the way he handled business, always always enjoyed no slander 55 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: from me. I'm a straight up Jason Garrett fan and 56 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: the host on my on my normal show, who I 57 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: won't I won't call his name now, he's not that 58 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: big a fan of j G. So we kind of 59 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: go back and forth on this often, but you're right consistent. 60 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: We've been in the playoffs. You know, we had some 61 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: rough seasons. We've dealt with some injuries and all that stuff. 62 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: But you know, anytime something came out bad about j G, 63 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: I would always defend him because I was personally in 64 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: the locker room with him, so I knew how some 65 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: of that stuff went and how some of it was 66 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: possibly blown out of proportions. So I'm a fan. I 67 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: love the guy, and you know, I'm happy that he's 68 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: working up there in New York, and you know he 69 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: might get the Hedge coach and job up there soon, 70 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: you know what, Danny, Yeah, oh yeah, you bring up 71 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: a really interesting point because you came in twenty ten, right, 72 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: that was your heere here, that was Jason's first year 73 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: as the interim coach, right you were you were a rookie. 74 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: Season was during the transition from Wade to Jason, And 75 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: oh wow. You know, we've been talking this week, in 76 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: the last few weeks about Mike McCarthy trying to put 77 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: his stamp on his own program, Like how much time 78 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: do you think that takes for a coach to do that, 79 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: because I think obviously we talked yesterday on the show 80 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: about progress. Even though it was a loss against the Steelers. 81 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: But what how long does it take for guys to 82 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: buy in or get used to schemes or adjustments like that? 83 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: You think, I think you need a full, full off 84 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: season and training camp, you know, to get that, because 85 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: you know, you're looking at almost six months of being 86 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: around the coaching staff and learning how they speak, learning 87 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: how they move, learning what they expect. So you really 88 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: need a full off season OTAs and training camp to 89 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: get that full buy in. That's why you know, I'm 90 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: sure Mike mccarthy'll still be here through next year. But uh, 91 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: let me tell you. The one thing that I disliked 92 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: the most about the slander when Jay said Garrett was 93 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: I thought it was like crazy that people said that 94 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: he somehow called bad players for Wade Phillips and then 95 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: all of a sudden wave Phillips got fired. He found 96 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: out how to get us running the good offense. I 97 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: thought that was was crazy and football doesn't work that way. 98 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: So that's how it started. And I think that stuff 99 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: just ran on ten years during the one and seven 100 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: start you mean twenty yeah, yeah, that that's that there. 101 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: That was just crazy talks and just I mean really 102 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: like that's like the ultimate dis respect you could give somebody, 103 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: is that they were doing that on purpose? Yeah, it 104 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: didn't make sense, and they ran with it, and I 105 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: was like that that's not j G. That that's not 106 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: the guy I know anyway, So uh, you know it 107 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: started there and then it ended when he when he 108 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: got to let go. Previously, Ambert, you've you've let it 109 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: be known on your show that you're on normally your 110 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: I guess your frustrations with coach and Garrett. How do 111 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: you feel now that you've you, you know, your whole time. 112 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: How long have you been with the organization now? Four years? 113 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: Five years? Probably like six years? Oh wow, okay, so 114 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: we got some we got some long timers here on 115 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: the show. So you've been here six years now. You 116 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: you've gone through a coaching transition. This is your first 117 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: one a coaching change. Do you like the direction the 118 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys are headed? Do you like what coach mcca? Obviously 119 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: the on field performance is not good. There's a lot 120 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: of things that contributed to that. But what do you 121 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: think so far? You know, half through Mike McCarthy's first 122 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: year as a coach. Do you like the progress or 123 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: do you like where this is going? Well? I think 124 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: that obviously a change was definitely needed. And when you 125 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: talk about Jason Garrett, I personally like Jason Garrett as 126 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: a person. I thought he's a great speaker, great guy, 127 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: great person and everything. Obviously Game Day was very questionable, 128 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: and the point is that every year the results were 129 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: very similar. So at the end of the day, a 130 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: change was needed. He's a guy that was very consistent 131 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: with his mentality and everything. Even when he would go 132 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: inside the studio to shoot his show, everything needed to 133 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: be the same way every week. So it's like at 134 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: some point, you know, you gotta evolved, you gotta change 135 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: with the years, you gotta keep improving and finding the 136 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: new things to do. With Mike McCarthy, I think he 137 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: brings just a breath of fresh air, just something completely different. 138 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: It's tough, and I've this on our show. On the break, 139 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: I asked the guys, I'm like, Okay, how long does 140 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: it usually take for a coaching change to actually start 141 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: being successful, for you to start seeing the results? Similar 142 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: to what Rob was just talking about, because my problem 143 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: is from the time that I've been here, it's it's 144 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: sad and unfortunate that you see talent going to like 145 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: wasting years, let's say, wasting years and when you get 146 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: a good player that's doing well and all this and 147 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: then oh, here goes another year where you weren't able 148 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: to capitalize on that kind of talent, for example, the 149 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: old line. When the Old Line was at its prime, 150 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: the Cowboys weren't able to necessarily get the best out 151 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: of that. So to me, that's what I say that 152 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: it's just sad every year waiting and every year you 153 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: see a great talent just kind of wasting years and 154 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: not taking advantage of those veteran guys that you are 155 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: of and that you hope to see in a Super Bowl. 156 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of Sean Lee and poor guy, 157 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: he's barely playing this year, and like it breaks my 158 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: heart not seeing him or Jason Witten being able to 159 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: get a chance out of Super Bowl. Yeah, that's a 160 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: great point. Another thing that that really frustrates me along 161 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: that line of wasting talent is you know there are 162 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: guys that leave here that are you know, second third string, 163 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: special teams guys, and they seem to leave here and 164 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: go to other systems or go to other teams and 165 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: they flourish. I mean, you look at the Chiefs. They 166 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: picked up Anthony Hitchins that you know, obviously they let 167 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: him go because you know some the money situation, But 168 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: I think you know he was a great, great player 169 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: with a huge arrow pointing up. Damian Wilson went to 170 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: the Chiefs as well and was kind of a special 171 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: teams guy here and he's a major contributor on that defense. Danny, 172 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: what causes you know, from a player perspective, what causes players? 173 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: And I'm sure this happens around the league. I'm sure 174 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: it happens everywhere. It's just that we're so in tune 175 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: with this team and we see it on a daily, 176 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: yearly basis that it seems like a lot of guys 177 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 1: leave here and then they go other places and the 178 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: you know, their career or their opportunities kind of blossom. 179 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: Does that happen everywhere and we're just overly critical or 180 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: is that something that's an issue here. It absolutely happens everywhere. Listen. 181 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: Some players are system players, Like when you think think 182 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: about Sean Lee's best days. To me, when rob Ryan 183 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: was here, he was running around in three four some 184 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: of the schemes that we ran and allowed him to 185 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: maximize what he was able to doing doing coverage and 186 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: just being free and roaming and making tackles. Uh. And 187 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: then you see a guy like Anthony Hitches when he 188 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: went to Kansas City, he was in a scheme that 189 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: allowed him to do similar things to what Sean Lee 190 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: was doing. He the thing that that Anthony Hitches is 191 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: good at seeing seeing the ball and attacking it right. 192 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: He doesn't really have to think about it. Once he 193 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: sees the whole he can rush in there and make 194 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: that tackle. In Kansas City runs the scheme that allows 195 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: him to do that. So sometimes you just you just 196 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: get in those situations where you know, Rob Marrion Nelly 197 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: scheme might not work for for that player, but when 198 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 1: he goes to a three or fourth scheme and gets 199 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: a little bit different coach and it just works out. 200 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: So I think it happens all over the league. I 201 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: don't think it's specifically just tied to the Cowboys. Rob. 202 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: What do you what do you think so far about 203 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: the McCarthy era and this short sample that we have. 204 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: Do you do you like where the direction it's going 205 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: or is it still too early to tell for you? 206 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: I think it's still too early to tell, just because 207 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: and this is going to sound like excuse making, but 208 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: I just think it's the reality of this this year 209 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: that we've we've never seen a year like this, and 210 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: Amber's right, I mean, it's it's it's frustrating because you 211 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: only get sixteen games a year, and when you lose 212 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: your top players and and you're trying to establish a 213 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: new culture with new schemes, and you know, you just 214 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: don't have the time to do it the way you 215 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: probably want to do it. And maybe they tried to 216 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: do too much early on, at least defensively, and they 217 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: scaled it back. It's just I don't know if this 218 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: year was ever really set up for them to have 219 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: as much success as they want to have. The injuries 220 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: have compounded that, and you know, just poor play has 221 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: compounded that too. I mean, they that early stretch of 222 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: the season and it's really carried in all year. The 223 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: turnovers have been the biggest problem, you know, and that 224 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: kind of goes back to last year too. Some of 225 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: the same stuff that we've seen where they get behind early, 226 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: some of it's their own fault and they can't overcome 227 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: slow starts and so and that's what's really interesting about 228 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: McCarthy's time in Green Bay. Yes, he had Aaron Rodgers, 229 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: who one of the greatest ever, not only at quarterback 230 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 1: but taking care of the ball. As a quarterback, they 231 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: were always good in the turnover differential there. That's what 232 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: McCarthy builds his teams on. That's not the case at 233 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: all this season. I think they're last still in the 234 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: ratio and until they get that fixed, injuries are not 235 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: They're always going to be in a situation where they 236 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: are kind of walking the line of win or lose 237 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: every week. But I agree with Danny that, you know, 238 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: it's it usually takes some time in a normal year, 239 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: and this is the farthest thing from a normal year 240 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: we've ever seen. So I think you've got to I 241 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: don't think we're going to really be able to evaluate 242 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: this program that McCarthy's trying to establish until, you know, 243 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: give it, give it till midway through next year and 244 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: just kind of see how things are going. And that's hopeful, 245 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: that's what and that's that's hoping that we have some 246 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: sense of normalcy by this time next year, you know, 247 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: which I guess you know, we're all day to day 248 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: at this point. Big if big if? Right? Now? Yeah, 249 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: So so you're you're willing to give this thing another 250 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: another full season from this point the whole you're thinking 251 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: halfway through next year. Oh yeah, I mean, I mean 252 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: just listen to the Jones's talk about this. They are 253 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: all in on Mike. I mean, they just they are 254 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: too and I and I buy that, like, I think 255 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: they they recognize kind of just the circumstances. And they've 256 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: also they also draw on his pass too, you know, 257 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: I think they you know, everybody looks at Mike's time 258 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: in Green Bay and said, well, he had so much 259 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: success and he won a super Bowl and they went 260 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 1: to five NSC championship games. Well his first year there 261 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: no six. They started one and four and they finished 262 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: eight and eight. And so I think the Joneses are 263 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: sold on the fact that he can build a program, right, yeah, right, 264 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,239 Speaker 1: So you think that the whole staff are just McCarthy. 265 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: Oh well, definitely McCarthy. I mean, and we'll see, I mean, 266 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: we'll see what they do with you know, when you 267 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: don't have success in certain spots. Uh, you know, the 268 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: staff always changes to some degree if you don't make 269 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: the playoffs. But I don't know, I mean, he he 270 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: has been I think Kellen Moore is on solid ground 271 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: for sure. And I know Mike Nolan's gotten a ton 272 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: of criticism, Um, but Mike has been a staunch supporter 273 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: of his and and you know, let's just we got 274 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: to kind of see how the defense goes. You know, 275 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: if they continue this this trajectory, then maybe everything is 276 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: going to work out. But it's a small sample size. 277 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: We've seen two weeks of the defense really taken hold 278 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: the way you want it to. So it's a long 279 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: way to go. What do you what do you think, damn? 280 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: I mean, do you think it changes? If it keeps 281 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: going away? It's going Uh one. Absolutely, I'm not really 282 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: sold on the defensive coordinator, but I don't think he 283 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: should be he should be let go, you know, based 284 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: off what happened so far, but specifically the defensive back coaches, 285 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: I think there's an issue there. Um, You've seen You've 286 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: seen a guy like Brandon Carr come in and get released. 287 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: You've seen Worldy come in and not be able to 288 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: to play up to this potentially, You've seen the rookies 289 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: and the young guys not not really progressing and pick 290 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: on pick up where they left off left last year. 291 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: And if you've seen them get a little better, you 292 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: haven't seen any of that. You've actually seen them get worse. 293 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: You've seen their eyes being the wrong place. You've seen 294 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: them not be able to play basic cover one, basic 295 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: cover three. You've seen them not be able to make tackles. 296 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: You've seen a clear drop off from what they from 297 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: what they were, and no improvement from the young guys 298 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: that they brought in. And I think that that leans 299 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: heavily on what they're being taught in the defensive back room. 300 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: So if I was picking one, you know that they 301 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: had to bite the bullet, I would say they would 302 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: start with the defensive backs. Well, you would know you 303 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: better than any of us, you would for sure. Amber. 304 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: What what? How long is your leash? Rob's leash is 305 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: extremely like extremely say, let's give it like but for 306 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: your expectation, Like you're expecting this thing to turn around, 307 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: and you're willing to give it a whole another year. 308 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: So basically a year and a half is when you're 309 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: expecting to start see results or or is the year 310 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: and a half when you would start to think making 311 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: a coaching change. Oh, I mean it's as far as 312 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: the head I know. I mean I think I think 313 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: they they've got Mike here for the long haul. I 314 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: really do that think that. I do think those two 315 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: three four years, right, Yeah, but once once you get 316 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: into next season and I'm assuming that, you know, if 317 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: they can have a normal offseason and a normal training camp. 318 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: I think once that next season starts, I think, now 319 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: that's the clock of Okay, are they making progress? Are they? 320 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: You know? And we're going to see more down the 321 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: stretch here. But I think I do think with a 322 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: new staff man, you've got to be able to, like 323 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: Danny said, to have that camp just camp time, that 324 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: time on task just some of the little situational things. 325 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: And it's also a staff that's getting to learn each 326 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: other on how to work with each other. The staff 327 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: was new too. I sound like I'm making a ton 328 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: of excuses they have it, and I'm really not trying to. 329 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: I just think though, I do think it's just such 330 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: a weird year that it's it's hard to really evaluate 331 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: everything fully. I was about to say we we we 332 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: eight weeks into man that that training that that full 333 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: off season is counted now. Yeah, yeah, but we're starting 334 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: to see it a little bit better, you know, So um, 335 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: maybe I don't know. We'll see maybe they you know, 336 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: they maybe they caught the Steelers on a bad day, 337 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: you know, And so we'll find out after the bye 338 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: week if they really do momentum or not. We'll see 339 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: you ever before we go to break. How long is 340 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: your leash with this team right now? It's very short. 341 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: Definitely not as long of a leash like Rob. I 342 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: don't have the patience for it. I you know, I'm 343 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: a very sensitive person, but when it comes to football, 344 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: I am not. Because when you got my hands sweaty, 345 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: my heart beating fast, and got me nervous and angry 346 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: that my short my leash is very short. So I 347 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: think to be fair, yes, this this has been a 348 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: crazy year. So I would not go as far as 349 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: making a head coaching change. I would give that a 350 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: little bit more of time. But I'm with Danny. When 351 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: you look at the defense, I think there are some 352 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: changes that need to be made on that side if 353 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: we go back to seeing what we've been seeing for 354 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: the first half of the season, Let's see what the 355 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: second half of the season brings. But just in general, 356 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: it cannot be just us the players on the field, 357 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: I mean, Mike Nolan might be a great coach, but 358 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: maybe just not in this locker room, maybe just not 359 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. Maybe his voice is just not loud 360 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: enough in there, and the guys don't necessarily understand his 361 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: vocabulary or something, because clearly there has been a lack 362 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: of communication there. So I would I would look at 363 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: certain areas and make changes there. Definitely if we don't 364 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: see improvement in their second half of this season, that 365 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: is true. I mean, ye, Danny could speak to this 366 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: again better than any of us, but you gotta have 367 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: buy in from from the players. I mean the coach's 368 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: message when when you struggle like they've struggled the first 369 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: half of the season. I just you can't put it 370 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: on just players execution, and maybe you can make most 371 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: of it that if you want to, but it's also 372 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: what's being relayed during the week, how the practices are, 373 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: and if guys are being put in the best spots 374 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: to succeed, So it's never just one thing. Yeah, I 375 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: think I'm a little bit on everybody's side here. I 376 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: think this year you get you get a free pass, 377 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: basically with the brand new coaching staff and trying to 378 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: come in with new scheme and new players and things 379 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: like that, I think, as long as you are making progress, 380 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: and it took them a while to get to this point, 381 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: but I think, like you said, Rob, the last two 382 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: games on defense, they've done a little bit. They turn 383 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: it around a little bit. We'll see coming out of 384 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: the bye week if that extra time gets them even 385 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: further along in that progression. But I think, as long 386 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: as as long as you play, and you know Danny 387 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: referred to this yesterday, you show some fight, you show 388 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: go one hundred miles an hour. You may not go 389 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: the right direction, but give me one hundred miles an hour, 390 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: and then if I can get you all go in 391 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: the right direction out one hundred miles an hour, then 392 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: we got something. So I think if they keep along 393 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: this trajectory, you give them a full, hopefully somewhat normal 394 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: offseason next year, you got you got everything in place. 395 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: I think then that's when the clock really starts ticking. 396 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: And if you're if you're not in a better place 397 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: this time next year, then I think we're gonna have 398 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: some real fun conversations on all of our shows about 399 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: players and coaching staff. So all right, let's take our 400 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: first break. We're way behind, but I want you guys 401 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: to think about something in the break because you asked 402 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: me at the beginning of the show what we were 403 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: going to talk about, and this is really the only 404 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: thing that I wanted to talk about on the show, 405 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: and I didn't want to tell you before the show 406 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: because I didn't want you to have too much time 407 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: to think about it. Let's think about it. We've all 408 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: been As I said before, we've got some long timers 409 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: on this show. Danny's been around for I guess ten 410 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: years now. He's been around the Cowboys organization in some 411 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: form or fashion. Rob You've been here off and on 412 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 1: for what fifteen years? I guess that, Yeah, something like that. 413 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: I've been around for about seventeen. Amber you've been around 414 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: for six telp think about it in the break. What 415 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: is your favorite memory or moment of the Dallas Cowboys 416 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: while you were here, Something that you were around, something 417 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: you witnessed, something you were part of, just any any memory. 418 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: And then we'll also let's give our we're a little 419 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: bit over halfway through the season. 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So there we go. We're 476 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: back to the show now. When we first started the show, 477 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: and y'all ask me before we started the show, hey 478 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: what are we talking about today? And I said, I 479 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: have no idea. I can promise you that Jason Garrett 480 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: talk was probably not even on the radar or the list, 481 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: the long list. So that was fun. You got to 482 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: talk about little j Jean. Now let's talk about let's 483 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: start with Rob since you've been here the longest of 484 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: everyone except me. Oh, I'm still what is your favorite? Okay, 485 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: you skip me. I'm still figuring here, Danny, Danny, do 486 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: you have a favorite Cowboys memory or a favorite thing 487 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: that you were a part of? Absolutely? Absolutely? Um So, 488 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, naturally, the fact that so I 489 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: came out of college and you know, I wasn't Holly Tower. 490 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: You know, nobody expected me to get drafted, but I 491 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: still sat on the couch and looked at the TV, 492 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: you know, thinking that some miracle would happen. And then 493 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: I got a call from Will McClay right before the 494 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: draft ended, and he told me, hey man, we don't 495 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: we may not be able to pick you up in 496 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: the draft, but we will be calling you after, you know, 497 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: to come in for as a free agent. So you know, 498 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: they gave me my five thousand dollars and they told 499 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: me to come in and try out, and uh, you know, 500 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: the rest is history. Everything worked out. Me and me 501 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: and Barry Church actually was a quasi and Wolsey answer 502 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,959 Speaker 1: got picked in the fourth round, and then me and 503 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: Barry Church ended up coming in it's undrafted free agents, 504 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: and it worked out perfectly for us because a Quasi 505 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: was hurt, we had some other injuries in the dB room, 506 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: so me and Church got a lot out of time 507 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: to show what we were able to do, and we 508 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: both ended up making a team and we turned into 509 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: some fairly long career. So it was it was really 510 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: just the Cowboys giving me the opportunity to show what 511 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: I could do, and then making the team and turned 512 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: into something that you know, allowed me to do what 513 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: I love to make a little money. That's so awesome. 514 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: And you're from Houston originally, right, yeah, Houston, Houston, and 515 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: then you went to college at LSU. And then so 516 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: you've kind of been in this area your whole other 517 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 1: than going up to Chicago and dealing with that foul 518 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: weather they have up there, you've kind of been in 519 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: this area your whole whole career in life. Then listen, 520 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: if it wasn't for Joe d I would have never 521 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: loved Dallas. But I love Jody, me and him or 522 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: like we we are we are actually you know, outside 523 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: of coaching, being my coach. Were we are friends, we 524 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: go get a drink together, you know, check on family, 525 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: do all that stuff. So you know, whatever Joe d 526 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: asked me to do wherever he needed me to be at, 527 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: I was gonna be there. So you know, so I went. 528 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: But if it wasn't for him, no, I would have 529 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: never left. I love Rich too, But Jody gave me 530 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: my shut. That's awesome. Amber. You have an answer ready 531 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: or do you want me to go? You can go 532 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: go ahead, Okay, I'll go. I have a one because 533 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,719 Speaker 1: I know Rob's probably still don't down. I think probably 534 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: probably my I have two. One's kind of my job 535 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: related in one's kind of not. Probably. The career defining 536 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: moment for me was, you know when social media started 537 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: being a big deal. You know, nine or ten years ago. 538 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: You know, sports teams, if you can imagine this, didn't 539 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: have social media. They didn't have social media one, and 540 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: they definitely didn't have social media departments. I was working 541 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: on the merchandise side, running our e commerce business and 542 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: our fan club when social started being kind of a 543 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: thing with brands and a few teams. You know, the 544 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: NBA was way ahead of the NFL and a few 545 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: teams were starting to pick it up, and I kind 546 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: of saw where it was heading and it was kind 547 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: of burned out a little bit on the merch side, 548 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: and so I put together a presentation and got in 549 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: front of Jerry Junior, Derek Um, some other executives in 550 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: the company and kind of pitched them, hey, this is 551 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: what we need to be doing going forward, and was 552 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: able to really kind of create my own position, and 553 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: you know, thankful that we worked for such a great 554 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: organization that kind of let me, you know, create my 555 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: own path and kind of create the blueprint for what 556 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: now is Dallas Cowboy's social media. So it was really 557 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: a unique opportunity and you know, fortunate enough that we 558 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: worked for, you know, such great people that allow me 559 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: to you know, take that a run with it. That's 560 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: probably one, but the probably the coolest thing I've been 561 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: involved with from like the team side is hands down London. 562 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: The week that we got to go spend in London 563 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: was something that you know, I probably I don't know, 564 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to go overseas, but I don't know 565 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: if I would have ever gone and done it. And 566 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: the game that we played, you know, played Jacksonville m 567 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: Wembley Stadium. We got to I think we left here 568 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: on a Tuesday and we stayed until the following Monday. 569 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: Stayed right in the heart of London. They moved us 570 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: around a little bit to you know, put us in 571 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: two different locations so we were able to explore the 572 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: city when we weren't at practice or covering the team, 573 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: and just that whole experience and you know, flying overseas 574 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: with the team and the access that we had two 575 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: different things. And you know, when we landed, we went 576 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: the players went worked out with the Tottenham Hot Spurs 577 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: and that was something that you know, you would never 578 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: be exposed to. We got to go, you know, see 579 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: a soccer match and just you know, that whole experience 580 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: and being able to do it. You know, one the 581 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: team paid for it because we were employees, but two, 582 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: just to be around that and that atmosphere and the 583 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: NFL you know, had just started playing games over in 584 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: London to be a part of you know that process, 585 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: I think. And you know we went to the Tower 586 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: of London and eate dinner one night, and the things 587 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: we were able to do was just something that you 588 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: would you would never be able to do on your 589 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: own and just really sticks out as a probably the 590 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: best memory I've had it from the team side. All right, 591 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: amber your turn, enough of me talking. Okay, well my story. 592 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,959 Speaker 1: I can tell an embarrassing story about me. When I 593 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: first started with the Cowboys. Most people already know that 594 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: I knew zero, like nothing about football prior to me 595 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: starting this job. So when I interviewed, I obviously got 596 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: higher and all that. So my first video to do 597 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: was on the field. Every game, after the game, I 598 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: do a post game stand up on the field, and 599 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: my first one was a preseason game. First time of 600 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: me being on the field, even though everyone's sleeping, you 601 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,719 Speaker 1: feel like everyone's looking at you, even though no one's 602 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: looking at you. But I had Derek standing right in 603 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: front of me, just watching what I was gonna do. 604 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: And of course I'm like freaking nervous. I mean, I 605 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: have my boss in front of me looking at me. 606 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: I was speaking Spanish and I was so nervous to 607 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: the point where I just kept talking nonsense and I 608 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: knew Derek didn't understand anything, and I just kept I 609 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: just kept winging it. And I'm like it was so 610 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: bad that I even messed up, Like the Dallas Cowboys name, 611 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: just because of how nervous I was. So after that, 612 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, okay, it's gonna be okay. We leave. 613 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: I was shaking and everything. Derek. The following day, Derek 614 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: realizes that the video never went up because I guess 615 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: he was gonna look at it, and he calls me 616 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: into his office and he's like, is there a reason 617 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: why that they didn't go up? And I'm just like, well, Derek, 618 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: to be honest, I was so nervous. It was really bad, 619 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: so I felt like I shouldn't put it out there 620 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: because of how bad it was. And then I'm like, 621 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: but to be fair, it was a preseason game, so 622 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: I just I'm gonna take it as a practice round 623 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: and blah blah. And Derek was nice enough, you know, 624 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: he's a nice guy. He's like, Okay, I understand, but 625 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, don't worry. Next time, I'll do better. 626 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: And I did. And it was hard, but eventually I 627 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: managed to get better. I mean, now I got some 628 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: Emmy's bank there. That's somehow I managed to hey big time. 629 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: But but yeah, that that was a very embarrassing story. 630 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: But at the same time, whoever's listening. Just if you 631 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: fail out something at first, just keep trying and trying, 632 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: and then eventually you'll get better. I love that awesome 633 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: robing top. If you had enough time, yeah, I think 634 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: I have. Um, I can't because I yeah, I came 635 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: up with three really quick ones. Okay. Um Number one, 636 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: I would say just getting to work on that deep 637 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: blue on Bill Parcels. And because mainly from a personal standpoint, 638 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: my first year I was still in college, and oh 639 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: three when he took over his first training camp, and 640 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,239 Speaker 1: that was just such a memorable time for me, and 641 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: you know, just he's such a huge personality. And then 642 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: come back flash forward fifteen years to get to kind 643 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: of tell that story again. That was a lot of fun. 644 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: Um Number two, Jerry's Hall of Fame induction and just 645 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: that whole weekend, the party, the INDI induction, and mainly 646 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: the fact that we just kind of got to have fun. 647 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: We didn't really have to work that weekend other than 648 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: the game. Then a couple of nights before we really 649 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: just got to take it in and and just to 650 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: be part of that. I mean, the whole time, I'm 651 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: thinking I have no business being here, but I'm just 652 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: gonna crash this party. U And then I totally, I 653 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: totally forgot about that. That Rivals that Rivals London. Everything, Yeah, 654 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: everything about that was amazing, except the bus ride back 655 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 1: from Canton to Cleveland was yeah yeah, oh yeah for you, yeah, 656 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: you in particular. But we got through it. We got 657 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: through it. Tells you it was a great weekend. Um. 658 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: And then to bring it back to football, I would 659 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: just say, just covering the team, there's been a few 660 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: really like special fun seasons that where you watch the 661 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: team grow and and create all this momentum. You know, 662 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: like you know six when Tony Romo got the quarterback 663 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,720 Speaker 1: job and you saw the change into a new era 664 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: and they made the playoffs, and you know twenty six 665 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 1: team with Dak and Zeke. You know, they're just where 666 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: you're seeing history kind of being made with the franchise, 667 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: and it's just so much fun to watch a team 668 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: try to get to that level and ultimately they didn't, 669 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: but to be along for those types of rides are 670 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: really cool when when a guy kind of steps up 671 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: and takes takes control of a team. Miles Austin and 672 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: Oh nine kind of did that and they kind of 673 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: wrote his momentum turning into a star. So that's the 674 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: kind of that's what makes this job so much fun, 675 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: and that's why this season has just not been much fun. 676 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: I mean, we love our jobs, but you just it's 677 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: kind of what Amber was saying early in the in 678 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: the show. It's just like, you know, it's just frustrating 679 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 1: because a lot of things kind of been taken from 680 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: them this year with the injuries, and they haven't played 681 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,479 Speaker 1: well on top of it. You know, you're just hoping 682 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: they can get back to another season like that, because 683 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 1: that's when the job really gets fun. Yeah, you're told 684 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: you're you're so right. You you you work for the team. 685 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: You you're basically a fan, but you you have to 686 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 1: be professional and you can't let your fandom override your 687 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: your job responsibilities. But you can't help but be a 688 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 1: fan of the team because you have that personal connection 689 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: to these guys. You have that personal connection to the 690 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: coaching staff. You talk to these guys, they work in 691 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 1: the same building, and you you create this you know, 692 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 1: either it's almost like this unspoken bond where you don't 693 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: really hang out with them and you don't really do 694 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: things with them, but when you see each other. You 695 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: respect them because you know how much work they put in, 696 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: and you know, you know how much time they're away 697 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: from their families, because we go through the same thing 698 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 1: with training camp, and you know, the long days during 699 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 1: the season and things like that, and it's you can't 700 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,240 Speaker 1: help but get emotionally and personally attached to this team. 701 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: And even though we work here and it's our jobs, 702 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: it sucks whenever they're not good, like right now, it 703 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 1: sucks for us, like this is not fun for us, 704 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: like it's it's a job. But at the same time, 705 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 1: you know, it's a lot more enjoyable when they are, 706 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: you know, having success, and there are you know you 707 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 1: can support them and root them on. So all good stuff. 708 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: Let's take our last break. When we come back, let's 709 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: hand out our past mid season awards and critiques the 710 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: last few minutes of the show. 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So all right, 766 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 1: last five minutes of the show, let's run through this 767 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 1: really quick. Well, I'll throw some things out there and 768 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: we'll go around the horn and you you you all 769 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: tell me what you think. Let's start with the player 770 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: you want to see more of, Danny h Amari Cooper. 771 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: I think we need to we need to have him 772 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: to be a focal point of our offense. I don't 773 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: like it when when you know, when he kiss only 774 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: the five yards out in the quick slants. I need 775 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 1: to see him more involved, kind of like you see 776 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins Robert Woods. If you can't throw it to him, 777 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 1: hand it to him, get him with jet suite. Just 778 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: make sure you get him involved in the game because 779 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,720 Speaker 1: I think that changes the dynamic of our offense. Rob 780 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: Tony Pollard, and that's not a knock on Zeke. I 781 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: think they need to get the run game involved, period 782 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: and get both guys more involved, because especially when you've 783 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 1: got backup quarterbacks in the game, you got to have 784 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: that type of balance to help the quarterback out. And 785 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: the way Tony's been running, it's exciting. And you know, 786 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: Zeke really gutted through that hamstring injury a couple of 787 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: days ago. But I think you know, with Tony when 788 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,760 Speaker 1: he's got when he's given you a two twenty plus 789 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: yard gains on an offense that's that's been struggling with 790 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: the injuries, like they need, they need more of that. 791 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 1: So I think I think getting that that committee going 792 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: will be really good. Somebody to compliment Zeke Amber I 793 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: would go with Gary Gilbert after what he did in 794 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 1: the game against the Steelers. He wasn't perfect and all that, 795 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 1: but he he gave some things that we haven't been 796 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: able to see at the quarterback position since Dak got hurt, 797 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: So I would like to see more of him and 798 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: what he could possibly do. I agree with all of you. 799 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 1: I think after Sunday, give me more Randy Gregory, give 800 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: me more Gallimore, And where the hell is Bradley? And 801 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: I've been on this team, why haven't we seen what's 802 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: going on? Have y'all heard anything behind the scenes of 803 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: what's going on there, because obviously there's something happening because 804 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: everybody that was probably the draft pick out of all 805 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 1: of them that I heard the most buzz about from 806 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 1: our fan base was like, I'm ready to see what 807 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: this guy does. He was a beast in college. Have 808 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,240 Speaker 1: you guys heard anything as to why he's not getting 809 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 1: on the field. I haven't, I you know, And from 810 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: what Mike said after they you know they've traded Everson Griffin, 811 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: he thought, Okay, he's gonna get on the field, and 812 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: he's I think he's only got like six defensive snaps 813 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 1: all year. He was inactive last week, which really surprised me. 814 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 1: I think at some point we're gonna see him. They 815 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: want to give Gregory all the snaps he can handle, 816 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 1: I guess, and I totally get that the way he's playing. 817 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm with you, Shannon, Like I'm actually writing 818 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: that for later in the week. Like that's as far 819 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: as young players go, he's the one I want to 820 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: see more of them. All right, let's go to who 821 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: is your I don't even know if I should say this, 822 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: because it's hard. It's hard to even bring this this 823 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: up with the season like this, who's your MVP so far? 824 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 1: On this seat, on this team? Rob, That's hard. I mean, 825 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 1: I this might sound like a cop out, but I'm 826 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: gonna go Dak Prescott. They're owing four in full games 827 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: without him, and I think, you know, they're taking steps 828 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 1: forward without him, but I think what he was able 829 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,320 Speaker 1: to do, and I you know, the turnovers from Dak, 830 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: from Zeke, from some of their top players hurt them 831 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: early in the season. But he's the captain, he's the 832 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: heart and soul of this team, and he's arguably their 833 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,359 Speaker 1: best player. And I think they really miss him on 834 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,439 Speaker 1: the field. In the locker room, they're still they're still 835 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: learning to to with things without him. I don't think 836 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 1: that's a cop out at all. I think that's a 837 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 1: hell of an answer, Danny, listen, I gotta show a 838 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: little to my special teams got CJ. Man. He's been 839 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: out there making plays the entire season, recovering outside kicks, 840 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,280 Speaker 1: catching pumps pump passes and running it back and putting 841 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: us some position to score, making tackles, big tackles, and 842 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,760 Speaker 1: getting to create momentum for us from special teams to defense. 843 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,240 Speaker 1: He's been making some plays and he's been a shining, 844 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: shining spot on the team. So I'm gonna go ahead 845 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 1: and give it to CJ. Danny. I would thinking about 846 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: writing that today, like in terms of like just doing 847 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,879 Speaker 1: your job games one through nine, I guess he might 848 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 1: be the best player on the team in terms of 849 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: just doing what he's asked to do week in week out. 850 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 1: I truly, I truly think so. I truly think so. 851 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not just being biased to special teams. 852 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: He's been making plays and standing out as a special 853 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: teams player. He's making plays that affects the game and 854 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: help us win. Yeah, Amber, I would have to go 855 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,040 Speaker 1: with with Greg Turling. He's a guy. If he it 856 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,479 Speaker 1: wasn't for him, the Cowboys would barely have scored any 857 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,360 Speaker 1: points or have any points on those coreboards all throughout 858 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: the season. I think he has been pretty good if 859 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,240 Speaker 1: my memory serves me correctly. He's only missed one field 860 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 1: goal attempt and it was from the fifty plus yards. 861 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 1: I think so after the issues we've seen at the 862 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 1: kicker position and just a lack of consistency there, I 863 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 1: think that he would be a guy that has been 864 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 1: pretty consistent as far as what he's been able to 865 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 1: do when kicking for an extra point or field goals. Yeah, 866 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: I agree with all the answers. Amber. I'm gonna go 867 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 1: with theirline as well, because just the crazy field goal 868 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 1: that he made the other night that I have never 869 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: seen anything like that as long as I've been watching 870 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: the NFL the watermelon kick, and then he also had 871 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 1: one hell of an onside kick, the little pooch kick 872 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: that he did that they damn near recovered that thing. 873 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: So everything they've asked him to do, he's done it 874 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 1: and executed it to perfection. Okay, last question, the last 875 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: one we have time for, Rob, What is your expectation 876 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 1: of this team for the rest of the season. Oh, man, 877 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, like you like win total or just 878 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: just kind of generally speaking, like I think. I think, yeah, 879 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 1: let's say, how many games do you expect him to 880 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,399 Speaker 1: win from here on out? It that's tough. I mean, 881 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna get I think they're gonna get 882 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 1: to a point where they get a couple of more 883 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 1: wins here down the stretch. I do think they can 884 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 1: because if they play, if they just stop the turnovers 885 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 1: and they shore some things up defensively, they're gonna be 886 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 1: in some games. So I don't know what the record 887 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: is going to be at the end of this thing. Hopefully, 888 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: hopefully the injuries stop. I just I just want to 889 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 1: see them play more. I think everybody will see more 890 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 1: complimentary football like we saw against Pittsburgh. At least give 891 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 1: yourself a chance in terms of kind of playing for 892 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,839 Speaker 1: each other and giving each unit a chance to be successful. 893 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 1: If they can do that, then I think this might 894 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 1: get I don't know. You know, to me talk about 895 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: the playoffs, you can't do that. You just got to 896 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,359 Speaker 1: focus on week to week trying to Yeah, Jim moral 897 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 1: style and Bersa on that video last week, I shoulder 898 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,879 Speaker 1: for the first time. I could not stop laughing. Playoffs, Yeah, 899 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 1: just try to get better. Honestly, that's all. I want 900 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: to see just get better week to week. Fair enough, Danny, listen, 901 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,880 Speaker 1: if if, if Sunday was a moral victory, I expect 902 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,879 Speaker 1: us to have a bunch of a bunch of more 903 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 1: of those. I don't see us winning too many more games, 904 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 1: just because I think some of the competition that we 905 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,439 Speaker 1: have coming up and teams getting healthy and playing better, 906 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,319 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna, you know, go against us with 907 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,320 Speaker 1: like Cincinnati, Baltimore, you see Dalvin Cook running crazy. Washington 908 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 1: maybe one of those ones that we get to win in. 909 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: But I think we'll be competitive if we continue to 910 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 1: play the way that we did play. And I also 911 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 1: expect to see a Mark Cooper and Ezekiel Elliott, uh 912 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,359 Speaker 1: you know, earn their money. I expect to see Kelly 913 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: Moore get them out there and playing a little bit 914 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 1: more and being a focal point of the offense because 915 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 1: you see, like I said, it changes that our name 916 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 1: because the game when those two guys are involved in 917 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 1: the defense, that's the word about them. Kellen, Kellen and Mike, 918 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 1: we know y'all listen to this show. Please get a 919 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: Mark so Danny will be happy. You can't stop talking 920 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 1: about him? Why not? I don't disagree with you. I 921 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 1: don't disagree amber Um. I think we all know the 922 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 1: injuries having a major problem this year for the Cowboys, 923 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,240 Speaker 1: and I don't think that's something that that's gonna stop. 924 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 1: I hope we don't get to see more injured players, 925 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 1: but I think that it's very unlikely and we are 926 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 1: gonna keep having guys that get hurt. And at the 927 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 1: end of the day, the Cowboys having showed me enough 928 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 1: to make me feel like they are able to make 929 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 1: adjustments when a guy gets hurt and goes out. So 930 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 1: I don't think that the Cowboys managed to make all 931 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 1: the pieces work. I'm excited and hopeful for what I 932 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: saw against the Steelers, but at the same time, I 933 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 1: haven't seen any kind of consistency, so I don't know 934 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: if they are able to maintain that throughout the rest 935 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 1: of the season, even though the next opponents are supposed 936 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 1: to be a lot easier than what they were facing 937 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 1: against the Steelers. Yep, I agree with all of you. 938 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: I think as a fan, I think all we can 939 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 1: ask for for the rest of the season is just 940 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 1: progressively get a little bit better each week, Like you know, 941 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,880 Speaker 1: learn your gap assignments, and stick to those learn your coverages. 942 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 1: You know. Let's let's don't try to win every game 943 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: with eight trick plays. Let's let's get to a point 944 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: where you can throw in one here and there, but 945 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,359 Speaker 1: you stick to your core, you know. Zeke give them Zeke, 946 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 1: give them Amari, throw in some CD Lamb, give me 947 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 1: some Michael Gallup, and let's just go beat some people. Man, 948 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,280 Speaker 1: this has been fun. This has been a fun two days. 949 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,840 Speaker 1: We are out of time and we will take a 950 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 1: couple of days to kind of regroup ourselves, re get 951 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,760 Speaker 1: some energy back to finish this last leg of the season. 952 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 1: It's been great hanging out with you. Amber, Thank you, Danny, 953 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 1: thank you Rob, thank you. This has been fun. Maybe 954 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 1: we can talk to Boston to letting us mix it 955 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,360 Speaker 1: up more often. This was good times. We will be 956 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 1: back next week, all on our regular shows at our 957 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 1: regular times. Thanks for hanging out with us. Hope you 958 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. Take the bye week, watch some football, eat 959 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,839 Speaker 1: a lot of food, get some rest, and let's hit 960 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 1: it hard. Now. I'm the same place on hanging with 961 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,959 Speaker 1: the boys. Thank you Chris Bean for keeping us going. 962 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,800 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 963 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,879 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club