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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season ten, episode three

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Speaker 1: of Duff Daily's Eight Guys. We're December two thousand seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Happy birthday, Caitlin, my little sister. My name is Jack

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Speaker 1: O'Brien ak Potatoes O'Brien, and I am thrilled to be

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Speaker 1: joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles Gray.

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Speaker 1: Good morning everyone, and it is a good morning, and

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Speaker 1: I really really excited to really talk today because we

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Speaker 1: have so many good things. Yeah, for once, happy day,

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Speaker 1: Happy days are here again, and we're thrilled to be

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Speaker 1: joined by our guest, the hilarious comedian Megan Gaily. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: You thought you had a potato name. Yeah, you you

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Speaker 1: have the potatoest. Although potatoes O'Brien apparently a dish. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's where it's like potatoes are rotten probably except like whoa,

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Speaker 1: I never even thought about that. It's like instead of

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Speaker 1: having other stud it's got like dirt and grass and no,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like always it's always in bad.

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Speaker 1: It's like bell peppers and could country potatoes when you

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Speaker 1: take it. It's a proud tradition. So, Megan, what is

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Speaker 1: something that is in your search history that you think

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Speaker 1: is revealing about who you are as a human being? Um? Wow,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know if it had been revealing. I got

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Speaker 1: rid of all of it. Singular people must know about

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Speaker 1: you well in it that I stumbled upon last night

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Speaker 1: was gummy James Harden Beard. What wait, gummy James Harden beard.

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Speaker 1: So they make gummies, you know they really good? It's trolly?

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Speaker 1: Is that the really good gummy hamburgers and stuff? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be giving like ad space away.

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Speaker 1: It's fine. This is how we lure them in. They

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Speaker 1: got great gummies. They make James Harden beard like his

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Speaker 1: face or just his beard, just his beard, truly sour bite,

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Speaker 1: weird beards is what they're called the James Harden Edition.

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Speaker 1: Jay Man. Maybe his face is a part of it.

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Speaker 1: But their multi color like they have like but the

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Speaker 1: beard is orange and pink and did he do that?

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Speaker 1: I don't know? That is some good whoever is handlings

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Speaker 1: Harden is like the most popular, like marketable dude and

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Speaker 1: the NBA. Secretly, you'd think because he has a bad

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Speaker 1: would not be like that big of a deal. But

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Speaker 1: he I guess so he's like pretty clean. He's just cool. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's just like a cool people like stuff too. Some

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Speaker 1: people think it's too light skin. I think Steph is

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Speaker 1: like so traditionally marketable that people are bored by him exactly.

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Speaker 1: It's just like I know that I should like him

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Speaker 1: and therefore on board by him, whereas James Harden is

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Speaker 1: kind of the bad boy. It's like they got that beer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's got that beard. He's the I would rather eat

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Speaker 1: Russ's head, though, you would rather eat Russ's you know,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have a beard. But there's other fun beards

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Speaker 1: in the NBA and in baseball and in football. There's

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Speaker 1: tons of fun. Bear. You big sports fan? I am.

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Speaker 1: I'm a huge sports fan. What's your favorite sport um

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Speaker 1: to watch? I mean, you're who's your So it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be basketball, right, you know. I do love the Pacers

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Speaker 1: and this team has been especially fun to watch. I

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Speaker 1: love Victor Oladipot. Yeah, I'm so happy to have him.

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Speaker 1: He's a new neighbor of my parents. So I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: mailbox or Christmas. But I do love the Colts. But

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Speaker 1: they're so bad now, but I still I don't care.

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Speaker 1: I think they're cute and sweet and I love them.

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Speaker 1: And even when they're bad, I'm like, that's okay, I

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Speaker 1: know that they're good. The Pacers fired my dad one time.

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Speaker 1: My dad's Jim O'Brien. He used to coach the Pacers

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Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah, okay, extremely hard against you put that

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Speaker 1: razorblade down necessarily of the front office. Yeah, he's gone

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Speaker 1: now gone. I liked asses in your mind. Who's the

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Speaker 1: greatest pacer of all time? I like that answer? Like

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Speaker 1: who else would it be? I mean, some people have

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Speaker 1: like weird like likes, like Rick Smiths, but he's not.

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Speaker 1: He's not my favorite pacer, but he is the greatest

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Speaker 1: pacer of all times. Oh, whoa, whoa, No, I'm asking you,

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Speaker 1: Jalyn Rose. Yeah, that's a great answer. That's a great

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Speaker 1: answer because remember that we're a very hot and very hot,

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Speaker 1: Palace boys, I mean, I love that was one of

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Speaker 1: Good for them. I'm still on their side. I love

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Speaker 1: Jamal Tinsley to you remember him. He got involved in

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Speaker 1: a in a in a shooting outside of a strip club,

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Speaker 1: But for for two shootings, that's too many shootings for

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Speaker 1: a guy who just has incredible vision of the court. Megan,

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Speaker 1: what's something you think is overrated? I'm really worried that

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Speaker 1: read it, and I just I think cat Person is overrated. Okay,

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Speaker 1: now tell people what cat Person is. We mentioned it

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Speaker 1: trending on the internet. But so it's from the New Yorker.

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Speaker 1: Obviously I get the New Yorker. I've read maybe two

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Speaker 1: then you realize there's seventeen pages and you're like, I

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Speaker 1: all the time, so I'll like bring it on the

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Speaker 1: plane to be like, look, I'm trying, I'm okay, hello,

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Speaker 1: down and just turn on Real Housewives on the TV

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Speaker 1: um stable. You know, you've got to know everything that's happening.

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Speaker 1: It depends on which one, but we'll get into that later.

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Speaker 1: It cat Person is short fiction about It's basically about

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Speaker 1: like a texting relationship that then like turns physical at

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Speaker 1: that's why you don't marry everybody you date, you know,

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Speaker 1: like you gotta fux some bad people to realize that

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Speaker 1: knowing what your dream job is. To like, it's part

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Speaker 1: like a cat version of a werewolf? Is that the

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Speaker 1: what's something that is underrated? I just finished this is

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Speaker 1: I love when people tweet at her that they're birding

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Speaker 1: There's only three of them. I think there's going to

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Speaker 1: be more. I've joined some sort of like internet group

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Speaker 1: We're rooting for you, we love you, thank you. And

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Speaker 1: when you say you're on her side, you're talking about

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Speaker 1: the Johnny Depp stuff. I'm talking about the Trump stuff. Okay,

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Speaker 1: well what do you think about the Johnny Depp? So?

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Speaker 1: It was very I think it was unsatisfying for some people.

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Speaker 1: But you know, either way, you're going to buy the books.

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Speaker 1: I don't know enough about it. I'll no, no, I'm

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Speaker 1: not here to say, hey, what's your opinion on that?

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Speaker 1: But I just thought that's what you're referring to. But

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Speaker 1: So now I guess I'm torn. Yeah, So she's getting

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Speaker 1: her books are being burned by Trump followers because she

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I can't see you from up here. She's like, actually,

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Speaker 1: much money, I don't give a well, thank you for

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Speaker 1: trying to take the temperature of the national shared consciousness

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Speaker 1: But what it does, I think show is that people

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Speaker 1: are now there. There is definitely like more people who

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Speaker 1: are willing to be like, no, this is bullshit, Like

424
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Speaker 1: are we going to accept this? Doesn't look like we are.

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Speaker 1: And again, yesterday's election, I think is starting to also

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Speaker 1: show that he can scream all he wants, but at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, he was not able to

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Speaker 1: affect that election properly, which is I think one of

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Speaker 1: the best things, which I think is kind of what

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Speaker 1: we want to talk about next, was sort of you know,

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Speaker 1: now that Doug Jones won, like what does that mean?

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Speaker 1: Because it has more than just meaning that, Okay, we're

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Speaker 1: cutting down the GOP majority in the Senate. We're also

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Speaker 1: seeing many other things that are going to be affected

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Speaker 1: by this. So one of the things that uh in

436
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Speaker 1: the in the wake of jones victory is that Democrats

437
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Speaker 1: are now demanding that they delay voting on the tax

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Speaker 1: bill until Jones is seated so he can actually properly

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Speaker 1: represent the state of Alabama to see if we wanted

440
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Speaker 1: to completely funck over generations to come with this crazy

441
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Speaker 1: like mega money giveaway um. And so you know, and

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Speaker 1: the Dems do have a point, right like when Ted

443
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Speaker 1: Kennedy died, Scott Brown took over his who was a Republican,

444
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Speaker 1: and Harry Reid like delayed a vote on Obamacare because

445
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of oppression, like all right, fine, get

446
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: him in there or whatever, and they waited. They respected that.

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Speaker 1: And then also think about fucking McConnell the last year

448
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Speaker 1: refusing to confirm a Supreme Court justice because he was like, well,

449
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Speaker 1: let's wait for the people to decide and then we'll

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Speaker 1: have a vote, and then we'll have a vote. Well,

451
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Speaker 1: guess what motherfucker you are now you're in that position

452
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Speaker 1: except shoes on the other foot, of course, which is crazy.

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Speaker 1: So at worst they will try and just rush the

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Speaker 1: vote before he's actually able to be sworn in, or

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Speaker 1: you know, like if they can't agree on the bill

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Speaker 1: or whatever and the voting is delayed, Doug Jones may

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Speaker 1: be sworn in at the time that they do vote

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Speaker 1: on it. But like whether or not, yes, will you

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Speaker 1: do something crazy like be like refused to seat him

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Speaker 1: until that vote happens, We don't know, but that wouldn't

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Speaker 1: look good. But again, they don't really give a They

462
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Speaker 1: kind of like when they don't look because their base

463
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Speaker 1: likes it, right because when they anger the mainstream media

464
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Speaker 1: that that scores points for them. Um, they also don't

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Speaker 1: care about rested it, which it's like that's why it's

466
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Speaker 1: so hard to like fight them, because they don't all

467
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Speaker 1: like decency has gone out the window. So it's but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, get to Washington. Apparently eight minutes ago, the

469
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Speaker 1: GOP leaders announced that they have reached a deal to

470
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Speaker 1: cut the corporate rate to one and lower the top

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Speaker 1: individual rate to thirty seven percent. And the headline on

472
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Speaker 1: Drudge Report right now is rush, Rush, exclamation point tax

473
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Speaker 1: bill by Xmas. So yeah, the whole right wing is

474
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Speaker 1: concerted in this effort to just sneak this thing by

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Speaker 1: as quickly. Fucking no one wants the worst pulling. No,

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Speaker 1: that's not true. Very rich people and politically the majority

477
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Speaker 1: of people are not fucking with it. They have feelings

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Speaker 1: two miles. How would you feel if I had much money,

479
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't give a fun he thinks, So you think, well,

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Speaker 1: give me the Melissa to the experiment, but I will

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Speaker 1: be happy to There's a lot of rich people that

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Speaker 1: don't like it too, you know, exactly, and they you know,

483
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Speaker 1: they live in l A. But they do have a conscience,

484
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Speaker 1: right like, no, I'll give my money exactly. Well, I

485
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: mean there are a lot of these. I'll pay my

486
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Speaker 1: taxes and I'm giving my money. It's paying your taxes.

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Speaker 1: You know. Another thing though, too with this election, is

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Speaker 1: that is that signals maybe Trump is actually losing his

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Speaker 1: effect on people. Like clearly his supporters weren't as motivated

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Speaker 1: to come out to vote for Roy Moore as they

491
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Speaker 1: should have been. Because the Democrats like turned the funk

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Speaker 1: up and turned out to vote, and Republicans I think again,

493
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Speaker 1: like there're a few analysts saying that most of his supporters,

494
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Speaker 1: like hardcore supporters, weren't really interested in politics to begin with,

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Speaker 1: so for them to understand the stakes of Roy Moore

496
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Speaker 1: getting elected was kind of abstract to them. So that

497
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Speaker 1: kind of worked in Doug Jones favor. But I think

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Speaker 1: what it's interesting to see is that, yeah, like what

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Speaker 1: you're saying, last night, Trump had a tweet that was

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Speaker 1: like very civil for some reason, and clearly clearly he

501
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Speaker 1: passed out from the McDonald's and somebody was like, get

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Speaker 1: his phone and let's just do something. Because then this

503
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Speaker 1: morning he sounded like a person who is not being

504
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Speaker 1: listened to and feels powerless because he was Like the

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Speaker 1: reason I originally endorsed Luther Strange and his numbers went

506
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Speaker 1: up mightily is that I said Roy Moore will not

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Speaker 1: be able to win general election. I was right, Roy

508
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: worked hard, but the deck was stacked against him. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: the deck you mean people not being outraised, that you're

510
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: trying to put up a like racist pedophile. When they

511
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: tweet for him, they got to do a better job.

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Speaker 1: It's like if you're an f student and then you

513
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Speaker 1: buy a paper from an A student, your teachers like,

514
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: that's not yours. You don't know how to spell separate,

515
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: and no, this isn't him. I think he has lost

516
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Speaker 1: some of the let's give him a chance people, but

517
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Speaker 1: I think he'll never lose anyone's better than Hillary people.

518
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Speaker 1: But if we can grab some of those, let's give

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Speaker 1: him a chance over to Okay, you gave him a chance,

520
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: and you've seen it and it's a god damn disaster,

521
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Speaker 1: So will you come over here. I think they're willing

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Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, yeah, maybe, And I think chance

523
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: was bad. I think most of his baseloto was motivated

524
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Speaker 1: by race more than even like misogyny or not trusting Hillary,

525
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Speaker 1: because I think they go hand in hand and that

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Speaker 1: lovely little disasse. No. Absolutely, so, yeah, maybe Trump is

527
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Speaker 1: losing his power. And if you really look at it, like, yeah,

528
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Speaker 1: most of his power, Like when he's able to do

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Speaker 1: ship it's because he has a GOP leadership behind him

530
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Speaker 1: in Congress, where it's like Paul Ryan is taking the

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Speaker 1: charge to get shipped through or Mitch McConnell is taking

532
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Speaker 1: the charge he gets it through. He's not really able

533
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Speaker 1: from his fucking phone be like yeah, yeah, run that,

534
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: run that, run that, because people don't like I think

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Speaker 1: he's starting to you know, he's losing his grip a

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Speaker 1: little bit, right. I mean when he's going into the election,

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Speaker 1: what he won Alabama by how many percentage points? Like thirty? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like a ton. And I mean he was still a

539
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: purely anti establishment figure. You know, he could just sit

540
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: there and lob bombs at the establishment and talk about

541
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Speaker 1: being a guy who's going to drain the swamp and

542
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: you know, all this ship. But yeah, like you said, Megan,

543
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Speaker 1: we've had a year to see how this goes, and

544
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Speaker 1: you know, he has become establishment and a lot of ways,

545
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Speaker 1: he's failed in a lot of ways. And swamp was swamp,

546
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: was noted up swamp. Now with more gators, people can

547
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: make jokes all they want, but the people from any

548
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: state are not dumb. They can see this. And you know,

549
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: I mean he's definitely lost ground. I mean, his favoritability

550
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Speaker 1: rating in Alabama is now slub fifty. Some of them

551
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: are dumb, though, but people are dumbing, some of them

552
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: are very down. So now this leads to because oh, ship,

553
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Speaker 1: they took the biggest l they lost the reddest state.

554
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: Like now all the finger pointing has begun, and they're

555
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: basically two schools of finger pointing. One is the band

556
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: in side saying look at Mr McConnell in the establishment

557
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: like data support Roy Moore and that's why he lost.

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Speaker 1: And then you have all the establishment jpie people who

559
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: are like, yo, Bannon is a fucking idiot. He totally

560
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: fucked up by like getting in Trump's ear and making

561
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Speaker 1: everyone back this petophile who was never going to win

562
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Speaker 1: or could have won, but looks really bad for everyone. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And it's just great because now you're starting to see

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Speaker 1: like really like a lot of people in GOP he

565
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Speaker 1: are really trying to distance themselves from Steve Bannon and

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Speaker 1: almost acting as if like, you know, this experiment is done,

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Speaker 1: like we're not, we don't need to listen to this guy. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And especially what was crazy is like you have people,

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Speaker 1: uh like Pete King who's from New York, who's like

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Speaker 1: a very hardcore conservative and you know you think he

571
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Speaker 1: was down with most of the ship. Bannon said, this

572
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: is him throwing Bandon's ass under the bus this morning

573
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Speaker 1: when asked about the election. This guy does not belong

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Speaker 1: on the national stage. It looks like some disheveled drunk

575
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: and wandered onto the political stage. Uh, this is not

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Speaker 1: the type of person we need in politics. And last

577
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Speaker 1: night's selection was a manifestation of revulsion by the American people.

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Speaker 1: So okay, But like his number one thing he said

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Speaker 1: was that he looks like ship we know dude him.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, and I think it's the more of the strategy, right,

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Speaker 1: Like as even tweeted, he said, his act is tired,

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Speaker 1: in nane and morally vacuous. So again it's easy to

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Speaker 1: like distance yourself after you take the l because let's

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Speaker 1: be real, like all you guys were scared shitless of

585
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Speaker 1: Steve Bannon a few months ago and like you know,

586
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: don't don't want his people to come after you. But

587
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: now you're starting to see because they lost that seat.

588
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: Now everyone's really in their feelings and being like, well,

589
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: I think he's done or whatever I mean. Even within

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00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: the last month, the mainstream media has been like holding

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Speaker 1: him up as this like genius chess player. I do

592
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: wonder if that is partially strategy by the mainstream media,

593
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: knowing that if you give somebody too much credit there,

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00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: Like people are going to start hating him. If you

595
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: give someone like that too much credit instream media, it

596
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: might not be strategy, but I think that definitely probably happens.

597
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: Or also it's backlash from people who just saw this

598
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: outsider gobble up a bunch of influence and power in

599
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: the party and be like, who the funk where did

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00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: you come from? You know, just because you got this

601
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: one guy elected, And now they're like, okay, funck off,

602
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: like we let us ruin the country? How we used

603
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: to do it well? But I think they've always hated

604
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: him for being an outsider who came in and got

605
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: a lot. It's just that he had the ability to

606
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Speaker 1: claim that he was going to you know, wield all

607
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: this influence, and now he no longer has that ability. Um,

608
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: so the in fighting will begin because now like there

609
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: are murmurs, like the Bandon camp was like okay, well

610
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: now we're really going to war with the establishment and

611
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: these savages like we're done with Steve Bannon. So that

612
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: will play out wonderfully over the next what eleven twelve

613
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: months and had mid terms and finally, what we really

614
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: need to talk about is black women coming out and

615
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: really winning this seat. When you look at the numbers

616
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: of black women black men voted for Doug Jones. Uh So,

617
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Speaker 1: and if when you compare that to white voters, only

618
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: of white men and of white women voted, so white

619
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: women again, there's a problem here. Are we gonna keep

620
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: choosing race over gender? Like obviously with Trump, Sure, if

621
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: you wanted something different, I understand that. But in this case,

622
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: if your choices are between a sexual predator and a

623
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Speaker 1: Democrat or someone who's like in line with an Aga,

624
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: that that might be favorable to you because you like

625
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: the kind of hot takes Roy Moore has. You know,

626
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Speaker 1: we have to figure out what what's going on there.

627
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: But more importantly, are we going to begin to listen

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Speaker 1: to the needs of black voters, because it's been you know,

629
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: people of color, not just black people, have always been

630
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: just sort of like, oh, of course you're gonna vote Democratic,

631
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: and then that's all they have to rely on, you know,

632
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 1: give a few rousing speeches at a rally, but not

633
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Speaker 1: deliver on anything that will actually affect the community in

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Speaker 1: a positive way. Um So, because when you really look

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Speaker 1: at it, there's very little representation, uh for black women,

636
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Speaker 1: even in you know, like in Congress, Kamala Harris is

637
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: the only black woman in the Senate, and black women

638
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: make up what three point six percent of Congress. So

639
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Speaker 1: there are ways that we I think as a nation

640
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: really need to begin to see the power of uh,

641
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: this voting block and to also begin to represent its

642
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: interest too, like, you know, let's have the d n

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Speaker 1: C prop up more candidates and deliver more infrastructure for

644
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Speaker 1: candidates instead of being like, oh, man, we need to

645
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Speaker 1: recruit poor white people now because we lost that last election,

646
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: instead of being like, no, that you didn't get any

647
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: people of color out to vote for Hillary because you

648
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: didn't focus on them enough. Yeah, And it just shows

649
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: you like, when you have a candidate that people you know,

650
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Speaker 1: can to understand who they are and excited about him

651
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: or her and also understand what the stakes are in

652
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: the election, people will fucking go out and vote. But like,

653
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Speaker 1: when that's not communicated properly, you get low turnout and

654
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: you don't they have the numbers on the turnout though,

655
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Speaker 1: uh in terms of like how many people in the

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Speaker 1: state voted, because I mean, those numbers look incredible, but

657
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Speaker 1: it's like if it was forty six people, then it's

658
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: still not good, right, No, no, not at all. But

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Speaker 1: I think I think the turnout was above what they

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Speaker 1: were expecting. And also just in terms of black voters,

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Speaker 1: they were saying that, uh, they needed to get at

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Speaker 1: least which I think is over the repas of right,

663
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Speaker 1: like how many black people. It's just a yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a population population, and last night they got so black

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Speaker 1: voters were actually overrepresented. They have to cancel out a

666
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Speaker 1: lot of things. Um as as the only woman in

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Speaker 1: here i'd like to speak to as the white woman.

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Speaker 1: Um Places like Alabama have very very places the entire

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00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: country has very ingrained misogyny. And so when you saw

670
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Speaker 1: Hillary lose white women, a lot of that is what

671
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: is happening sadly in those individual homes who I have

672
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: friends who voted for Hillary and told their husbands they

673
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: voted for Trump because their husbands said they would leave

674
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: them if they voted for Hillary. And so that's like,

675
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 1: a that's something that you can't deny that that's happened.

676
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: Are there also horribly racist white women in Alabama? Yeah,

677
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: and generationally I think they will they will stop, they

678
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 1: will cease to exist because their daughters are these women

679
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: that they raise will grow up and be like, oh no,

680
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Speaker 1: this is bad. You know, I think it's older white women.

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Speaker 1: I really do believe that. I hope that's true. That

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's twenty five and below. I don't

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Speaker 1: even think it's thirty Actually, back you up. So the

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Speaker 1: one thing that made me feel better about the future

685
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Speaker 1: is that eighteen to twenty nine, Uh, sixty percent voted

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Speaker 1: for Jones, thirty to forty four, sixty one percent voted

687
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Speaker 1: for Jones, and then once you get over forty four,

688
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: so like forty five to sixty four percent voted for more,

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Speaker 1: and then sixty five and over fifty nine percent voted

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Speaker 1: for more. So, uh, part of it is just we

691
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: have to wait for we have to keep we have

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Speaker 1: to keep any inspiring women. We need to have more

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Speaker 1: black women, we need to have more Latino women, we

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Speaker 1: need to have more women of color, we need to

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Speaker 1: have more men of color. I don't I don't think

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Speaker 1: white women are lost. I think old white women are lost.

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Speaker 1: And that's like, okay, good ridden yeah. And I to clarify,

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Speaker 1: I don't mean to generalize that all white women are

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Speaker 1: either voting for their race or gender or anything like that.

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00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: But in small demographic numbers. That's kind of what we

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00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: were looking and we've sucked up. You know, we fucked

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00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: up the general election. When I think now the but

703
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: see now we've now we've proven we can all come

704
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: together to do this. So now let's bring everybody into

705
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: the conversation. I think is what this next step is

706
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: really about, and to create this thing that people of

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00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: color just can't be counted on for a vote that

708
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: now like if like that, there's there's been very little

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00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: reciprocity for the like being a dependable voting block to

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Speaker 1: count on, and how that you know, how that reverberates

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00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: or how that uh, what changes come out of their

712
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: life as a result of that. I think the me

713
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 1: too and all of the sexual harassment and sexual assault

714
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: movement that has happened will only help white female demographics.

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Speaker 1: Go oh, I don't have to do what a man

716
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Speaker 1: tells me to do. I don't have to feel and

717
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: voting aside. I don't I don't have to like this

718
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: If I don't like it. I don't have to go

719
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: see the Avengers. If I don't want to, I can

720
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: go finger myself to Mona Lisa Smile on Blue Ray

721
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: or whatever. We want to do. It's like you, I

722
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 1: think the push is happening, and unfortunately with white women

723
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: we may just have to be patient. But well, I

724
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: think it's easier too, because when you're oppressed, there's it's

725
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: easier to get unified under that. And I think women

726
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: of color especially have two dimensions of oppression. They have

727
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: to deal with its misogyny and race, and it's easier

728
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Speaker 1: to when you have a male candidate who is like

729
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: racist and a sexual predator. That's really easy to activate.

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Speaker 1: And you know, and I think it is harder too

731
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Speaker 1: because part of you know, if if that sort of

732
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Speaker 1: oppression isn't very real for somebody, it's very easy to

733
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: sort of get lost in and how you vote or

734
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: the partisanship of it all. And yeah, I think it

735
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: is very Uh, there's a lot to be optimistic about

736
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: because yeah, those demographic numbers show that clearly, like younger people,

737
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Speaker 1: like once we begin to inherit the earth in few years,

738
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: we'll probably see the like, we'll see some shifts. And

739
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: feminism also has to change. Feminism has to start recognizing

740
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 1: women of color and their issues and not just talk

741
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: about white feminism. And so it's like I mean we

742
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 1: have to start listening and that's sort of the first step.

743
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, I hope that's a that's like a huge

744
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 1: thing to come out of the election. Two is realized, Wow,

745
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: like okay, we really need to like, let's fucking all

746
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: sit together at the table and figure this out, because

747
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: it can't just be like yeah, thanks for that, you know,

748
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: thank you black people, and then tomorrow it's like, man,

749
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: they're filing for the end, Like, yo, let's address the

750
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: issue why people are dealing for the anthem, like let's

751
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 1: black lives matter because guess what, they're the only ones

752
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 1: voting for you. Uh So, Megan is actually not going

753
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: to be here for this next interview. She has to run,

754
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: but very important things things, And we have a phone

755
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: interview coming up with Jared Holt jar Holt from right

756
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: wing Watch, one of our favorite websites, which we'll talk

757
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: about that more. Though we're gonna take a quick break.

758
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: We'll be right back and we're back, Okay, So we're

759
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Speaker 1: about to go to our interview with Jared Holt from

760
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: right wing Watch. Again, Megan had to leave, so you

761
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 1: won't be hearing from her, and then we'll be back

762
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 1: to real time and Megan after the interview, enjoy. Uh

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Speaker 1: someone from one of our favorite websites, right wing Watch,

764
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: Jared Holt, who works for them, uh, is here with

765
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: us to talk about a little bit about the alt right.

766
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: Uh and what's you know? We want to get the

767
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: temperature of what's going on in the land of Peppie

768
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Speaker 1: the Frog. Um. So, Jared are you there? You were there? Right? Hello? Yeah, Hey, Miles,

769
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Speaker 1: what's up? How are you? How are you? And you're

770
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Speaker 1: also here with Jack just so you know, so there's

771
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: two people doing this interview. Um. So yeah, I mean,

772
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: obviously we wanted to talk to you because right wing

773
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: Watch is a very great website and tool for us

774
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: because we would like to keep track of all the

775
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 1: things going on. But can you tell us a little

776
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: bit about what you do at right wing Watch and

777
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: sort of what your role is there in terms of

778
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: the alt right? Yeah? So, uh, my role with right

779
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: wing watches to research and sort of monitor the movements

780
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: and the narratives coming out of the fringes of right

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Speaker 1: wing media. In my specialty in particular is uh, social

782
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: media and new media, which, as I'm sure a lot

783
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: of your listeners have heard, and if they haven't, has

784
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: been grossly taken over by the far right um and

785
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 1: what has become known as the alt right. Awesome, So

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Speaker 1: I guess you could say you're a bit of an expert.

787
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: You've been following this group for a minute now. Yeah,

788
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: it's been a couple of years. Uh. They sort of

789
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: first got on my radar after gamer Gate, which was

790
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: this big online movement that ended up harassing a lot

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Speaker 1: of female journalists who covered video games and different video

792
00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: game designers um for introducing more women and progressive characters.

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Speaker 1: And that was where the starting gun to all of

794
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: this online. Uh. And so it's been on my radar then,

795
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: and then a couple of years ago is when I

796
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 1: really decided to sink my teeth in uh and start

797
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 1: watching it full time. And when that happened with Gamergate

798
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: was I know that at that point it was mostly

799
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: focused on misogyny and you know the fact that women

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00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: were infiltrating the gaming community, and uh, what were their

801
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: right wing politics attached to that rage at that point? Uh?

802
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: A little bit. It was mostly this motive and we

803
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,479
Speaker 1: can talk about this later that fuels this movement, which

804
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: is the idea that social justice activist or who they

805
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: call social justice warriors are somehow taking over the institutions

806
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Speaker 1: they love. In this case, as trivial as it sounds,

807
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: it was video games. Um. But then when when Trump

808
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: came along, uh, they saw that as a chance to

809
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: get it into politics too. Yeah. I mean we we've

810
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 1: talked before on the show that Bannon actually was doing

811
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Speaker 1: a separate business venture. Uh. Steve Bannon was doing a

812
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: separate business venture where he was like trying to make

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Speaker 1: money mining for gold and world World of Warcraft, and

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00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: he came across this sort of gamer gate community and

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00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: was like, Wow, there might be a way to politicize

816
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Speaker 1: all this energy. Um. So it was it was like

817
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: a conscious decision on on their part. Yeah, it was this.

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00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: It was this huge movement, and Steve Bannon uh was

819
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: one of the first people, uh to really take advantage

820
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: and start pumping at mainstream even after the white supremacist

821
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: crowd uh saw it happening and decided they wanted to

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Speaker 1: use it for their movement to uh, you know, just

823
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 1: this online culture of like ship posting and just trolling

824
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: people and stuff. They thought like, hey, this is a

825
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: useful weapon and defeating social justice warriors, so we can

826
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Speaker 1: get these people on our side and use them for

827
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: our advantage. Have you seen, like obviously Doug Jones one

828
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: yesterday in Alabama, have you just from what you've been seeing,

829
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: like in the lead up to the election, what has

830
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Speaker 1: sort of been the alt right stance in terms of

831
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Speaker 1: of Roy Moore or and now in the wake of

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Speaker 1: the loss, has there been any kind of shifting of

833
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: positions or anything like that. Um. So one of the uh,

834
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: core like pillars of the alt right is this attempt

835
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: to discredit mainstream media and what they see as a

836
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Speaker 1: liberal order, a liberal establishment. So they wanted Roy Morris

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Speaker 1: to win simply to counter that establishment. They were all

838
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: totally aware of the pedophilia allegations. Uh, and you know,

839
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Speaker 1: we're doing their own thing to try to discredit them. Um.

840
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Speaker 1: But in the end it didn't really matter to them

841
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: because they just wanted to send a message. Um. Now,

842
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: since Roy Moore lost, Uh, the four chance and eight

843
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: chance of the world just went into complete melt down. Uh.

844
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: There's kind of this uh all hope is lost, and

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00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: then another vein of sentiment going on that Uh, you

846
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: know Roy Moore was always crazy and wasn't really one

847
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 1: of us, So it doesn't matter um and Uh. Probably

848
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: one of the bigger narratives is that the mainstream media

849
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: like teamed up with the GOP to character assassinate the guy.

850
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: Um And so they're sort of mourning the loss in

851
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: a couple of different ways, uh, slowly going through the

852
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: grieving process today. So there their conspiracy is that the

853
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: Washington Post and the mainstream like Mitch McConnell's of the

854
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: world got together and found these women and like concocted

855
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: this whole story of Roy Moore being a pedophile. That

856
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: that's sort of It's interesting because they will concoct um

857
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories about pedophilia to like discredit the Democrats, but

858
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: when there's an actual pedophile ilia, they will uh concoct

859
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories to ignore it. Which I mean there there

860
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: was this whole thing Pizza Gate, where they believed that

861
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 1: there was a pizza restaurant where high powered democrats were

862
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: molesting children. Um, but uh, is there are there the

863
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 1: underground tunnels? You can't forget that. And I'll say, I've

864
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: been to that restaurant just to have pizza and there

865
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: is no basement. So the tunnels thing really got me

866
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: on Pizza Gate, show, show you the level of discourse

867
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 1: we're dealing with. UM. So, are are there any myths

868
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,959
Speaker 1: about the alt right or like things that you think,

869
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 1: you know, we we try and track the zeitgeist here,

870
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: like things that you think the collective consciousness has wrong

871
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: about the alt right or the story of how they

872
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 1: came to be UM. I think that there's a few things.

873
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: I think one is that Richard Spencer still holds any

874
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: sort of prominence in the alt right. He was extra

875
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: really fundamental and lining out the core and setting the

876
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: tone and the mission for the alt right going forward,

877
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: and was one of the main ones who helped bring

878
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: it online. But when he got punched in the face

879
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: on Inauguration Day, they all kind of abandoned him. And

880
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: I have speculated that he's like a deep state operative

881
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: who's meant to smear their movement and everything. So UM.

882
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: And another one is that I think a lot of

883
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: things that aren't necessarily all right get called all right UM,

884
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: and that really discredits the term. Because what happened after

885
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: Trump's election is we saw the alt right shatter into

886
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: all these different movements. There's the New Right, the Proud Boys,

887
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: uh Chad, nationalist traditionalists, um, and went from this larger

888
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: movement of people all banded together to help elect Trump,

889
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: all these different fractured movements that just went to the

890
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 1: furthest extremes of the ideology that they thought was most

891
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: important that the alt right embodied. So can you um

892
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: talk about Chad nationalists because that was one of the

893
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: more interesting uh sort of sub subspecies that we came

894
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: across tracking the news cycle. Oh yeah, Chad nationalism. Uh,

895
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: where to start on this one? So imagine your typical nationalism, uh,

896
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: you know, wanting to uh serve the interest of a

897
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 1: nation first, uh so leading to policies that are anti immigrant, uh,

898
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: leading to a foreign policy that's very uh non interventional.

899
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: But then hand it's to some like super buff gym

900
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: rats uh and then also crank their heads full of

901
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: all these misogynistic views, and you've got Chad nationalists. So

902
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: these guys like to toss around the term soy boy

903
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: as an insul uh because part of this, uh what

904
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: these guys believe is that if you eat too much

905
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: soy products, it'll boost your estrogen and feminize you. And

906
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: as like as like the insecure jim rats that they

907
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: are not say all jim rats are insecure. But these

908
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: people are definitely insecure. You know. That's like the worst

909
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 1: thing that could possibly happen. It's a very like homo

910
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: erotic sort of we we went to a website where

911
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: they had all these pictures of like the ideal like

912
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: Chad is basically a name they came up with for

913
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: like the ideal, uh sort of white nationalist dude who

914
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,479
Speaker 1: like is that. They're like, he's a sexy hero who

915
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: lifts weights and like is a hero to women. And

916
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,720
Speaker 1: they had like all those pictures of like Corneld Schwarzenegger

917
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: and like, you know these eighties like homo erotic male

918
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: bodybuilder types that they were like, these are great examples

919
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: of like who a chat nationalists should try to be, Um,

920
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: just to very strange subculture. Is there anything aside from

921
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: like the idea of like hyper masculinity that like ideologically

922
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: separates them from other groups or their whole main thing

923
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: is like, look, we're fucking ripped. All the ladies want

924
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 1: to fun and we hate immigrants. Like is that sort

925
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: of the platform or is it? Or is there something

926
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: like even more specific like he's like, well, actually are

927
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: also very physically conservative. Um, Honestly, I think you got

928
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: it man, Okay, perfect, So that that's good. I want

929
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: to make sure I'm reading the tea leaves correctly. Proud

930
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: Boys is an interesting one because they add the idea

931
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 1: of like you don't masturbate right to yeah. So there's

932
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: different levels of being a proud Boy. There's like four

933
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: tiers so for people, for listeners that don't know, uh uh.

934
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: Gavin mckinness, who's a popular right wing media personality, came

935
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 1: up with this idea is to create a fraternity for

936
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: guys that support Trump. There again, maybe not Chad nationalist.

937
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: There could be some crossover, but it it's still that

938
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: same hyper masculinity boys club idea um and that women

939
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 1: should be subservant and so on. But so in order

940
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: I'll just stick you through the four levels of being

941
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: a Proud Boy. So the first level is that you

942
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: have to publicly declare on social media or whatever that

943
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: you're a proud Western chauvinist and a member of the

944
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 1: Proud Boys. The second tier is that no less than

945
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: five already initiated Proud Boys repeatedly punch you until you

946
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: can name five breakfast cereals. So they're punching you and

947
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 1: you're trying while you're being punched. You're trying to prove

948
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: that your brain can work well enough that you can

949
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: name five breakfast cereals while they're beating the ship out

950
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: of you. Essentially, it's like being beat into a gang,

951
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: but with a third serial tuck lamest weak as version.

952
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: Hey home, we won't jump you, and we'll punch you

953
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: until you can name five cereal Like you, you can

954
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: prepare for that beat down. You could be like, I'm

955
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: just gonna like gount crunch, checks, kicks right, Crispy treats,

956
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 1: Honey cereals like yeah, but they like good. I'll eat those.

957
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Proud Boys, yeah and then thank you. Okay,

958
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: so that's level two. I would actually just for any

959
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: aspiring proud boys checks Rice, checks, corn, checks, and you're

960
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: just the checklist. Checks is one syllable, nice and easy.

961
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: What else do I see here? Checks? Nationalist? So what? Okay?

962
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: So that's level two? Was level three? Level three is

963
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: the no winks so no way? Yeah, so you can't

964
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: you can't masturbate? Um, yes, I can less you with

965
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: not just I have a reversion to anybody telling me

966
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: I can't masturbate. You will go blind. Okay, so the

967
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: sy I apologize. So it's no winks unless you're within

968
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: like a certain distance of a woman and you get

969
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: her consent um. The idea of being that not masturbating

970
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: boost your testosterone levels and unlock some sort of secret testosterone,

971
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: uh you know, super man powers that I am still

972
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: unclear what exactly they are. Yeah, because that's not quite

973
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: scientifically based, right, yeah, I think they say that to

974
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: keep the optimal level of testosterone, Like it's good to

975
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: have some sort of cycle going where you're actually masturbating

976
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: on a somewhat regular basis. And it's also built off

977
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: that idea like sports coaches like they don't funk before

978
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: the big game, which is not true. Yeah exactly. Boxers

979
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: don't actually do that unless they do, in which case

980
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 1: they learned it from raging Bull. Yeah. And obviously, like, look,

981
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: if you're looking up to somebody who's punching people out

982
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: for a living and they're telling you they're fucking and

983
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: masturbating on the regular, you know, maybe like listen to them,

984
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: right you know. Alright, that's level three. Don't masturbate and

985
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: you will become superhuman. Okay. Level four final level is

986
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: to punch a member of Antifa. So it's, uh, you know,

987
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: these this group claims not to be affiliated with the

988
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: ault right, um, but the fact that they're showing up

989
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: at these, like at protests like Unite the Right just

990
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: so they can get the chance to throw the punchion

991
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: and assent to the highest level, I definitely think put

992
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: some guilt on their hands for uh, you know, the

993
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: white supremacist, white nationalist alright movement, right because I remember

994
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: there's a mistake to totally you know, separate them from

995
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: that right right, right, because I remember, like in the

996
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: in the aftermath of Charlotte'sville, like Gavin McGinnis was really

997
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: clear to try and be like, yo, we had nothing

998
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: to do with that, We had nothing to do with that,

999
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: because it's like, yeah, they all were like these new

1000
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: right people like the Mike Sernovich Alex jones Is of

1001
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: the world, They were all doing the same thing that

1002
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: you know, I think after the election, the alt right

1003
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: kind of fractured, and then when Charlotte'sville happened, people just

1004
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: started running in different directions, right because everyone wanted to

1005
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: get away from the alt right label. In terms of

1006
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 1: looking ahead, what do you see their growth looking like

1007
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: if any or or like a recruiting tactics that they're

1008
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: using now, is it a pivot or is it kind

1009
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: of steadily growing? Like what what sort of the forecast

1010
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: from your end? So there's there's different factions, um that

1011
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: I think are all competing for the same group of

1012
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: like disaffected white people or just expect especially like young

1013
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: white men, uh like college age or maybe fresh out

1014
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: of college and couldn't get the job that they thought

1015
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 1: they wanted to, or like think societies, you know, discriminating

1016
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 1: them or making them out to be a boogeyman. I

1017
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 1: think someone put a poll out that like somewhere between

1018
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: forty of white people in the country feel somehow victimized

1019
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: right now. And I think the future for the right

1020
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: or the new right, or like God forbid, the Chad

1021
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: nationalists is to figure out how to talk to those

1022
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: people and uh inject the white nationalism into them and

1023
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: sort of play to maybe these subconscious fears that exists

1024
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 1: in the conservative voter base right now. Right. Um. Although,

1025
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: and I guess like one of the last things I

1026
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 1: kind of want to ask about is like I've read

1027
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: a lot about how all right has like one of

1028
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: the biggest problems is getting women to participate. And essentially,

1029
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: since a lot of these groups are sort of built

1030
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: on these dated, misogynistic ideas and ship that, they're having

1031
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: a real problem getting women involved. But then there are

1032
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: women who want to be involved in the movement, but

1033
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: they're realizing that men don't want to include them. So like,

1034
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: is that like a thing that even men discussed? And

1035
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 1: like all right, like sort of these message boards because

1036
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: you see articles about the women talking about it, but

1037
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: it's I'm curious to know, like if there's any like

1038
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, inherently something that is so discriminatory is going

1039
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: to have trouble inviting more people to the table. So like,

1040
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: how how is that affecting things? Yeah, so, uh, to

1041
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 1: be a woman accepted in the alt right, you really

1042
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: have to decry feminism and work against a lot of

1043
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: your own best interests as a woman. Um. And that's

1044
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: that's really like the barrier to acceptance. But for the

1045
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: most part, a lot of people in these circles think

1046
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: that women are meant to be homekeepers and child bearers, um,

1047
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: and they is like an insane amount of slut shaming

1048
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: that goes on, um or attacking you know, the media

1049
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: personalities trying to join the alt right, you know, if

1050
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: they find some picture on Facebook of them dating someone

1051
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: who's not white, like, yeah, it gets really nasty towards women. Um.

1052
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: So I mean eventually they're not going to have women

1053
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: to appropriate with. Keep this thing going, like, it's an

1054
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: odd sort of paradox it started, Yeah, yeah, it grew

1055
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Speaker 1: out of the soil of a like anti woman movement. Right.

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Speaker 1: The whole gamer Gate thing was like, we hate women.

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Speaker 1: It was just explicitly hateful towards women. So it's not

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Speaker 1: surprising that that would be, uh, you know, a problem

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Speaker 1: that they would eventually face. Yeah. I think I think

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Speaker 1: you're touching on something that sort of gets to the

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Speaker 1: core of it, which is that, uh, you know, through

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Speaker 1: what you guys have been calling men ghazi um and

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Speaker 1: very other parts of our culture right now, we're seeing

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Speaker 1: all these like decades, if not centuries of misogyny and

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Speaker 1: horrible treatment of women. Trying to come to terms with

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Speaker 1: the fact that women have begun to claim agency for

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Speaker 1: themselves and are pursuing things like careers and you know,

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Speaker 1: oftentimes being very successful and threatening the status quo power

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Speaker 1: structure that's been in place for so long UM, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's really like a driving force that the

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Speaker 1: all right is going to have to reconcile with UM

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Speaker 1: if it is going to continue to grow, because if

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Speaker 1: they leave women out, that really leaves the only option,

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Speaker 1: uh is dominance and not any sort of resolution. Right.

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Speaker 1: I've described and I've heard it described that you know

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Speaker 1: a lot of white people, especially young white people, we're

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Speaker 1: born on second thinking they hit a double and I

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Speaker 1: I do think that there's uh, some some semblance of

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Speaker 1: like acknowledgement that they have an advantage. When you see

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Speaker 1: these groups that are so you know, viciously fighting against

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Speaker 1: the rights of people who are you know, whose society

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Speaker 1: is trying to raise up and you know, give equal

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Speaker 1: opportunities to there's like maybe maybe it's not a conscious

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00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: awareness of that, but maybe there's an unconscious awareness of

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Speaker 1: the fact that, you know, the they have had a

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Speaker 1: huge advantage for a long time and they would like

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Speaker 1: to continue to have that huge advantage. Yeah, it's a

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00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: you know, the these young white men are expecting experiencing

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Speaker 1: like the most minor, tiny like taste of what it's

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Speaker 1: like to be looked over because of your sex or

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Speaker 1: your race, and they just don't know how to handle

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Speaker 1: it right, which which is, uh, I don't know, it's

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Speaker 1: hard to describe. It's it's something that a lot of

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Speaker 1: these people that are a part of this movement have

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Speaker 1: never dealt with or experience before. So I think that, uh,

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Speaker 1: that you're right, that's where a lot of the the

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Speaker 1: anger and rage comes from in this movement. And then

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Speaker 1: just to wrap up, do you are you seeing any

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Speaker 1: flagging of the momentum that's sort of propelled Trump to

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Speaker 1: the White House? And you know, obviously there was the

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Speaker 1: Doug Jones victory last night in Alabama, and you know,

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Speaker 1: are is are you seeing as somebody who's been following

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Speaker 1: and paying attention to the you know, all right and

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Speaker 1: just the right wing in general. Do you are you

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Speaker 1: seeing this as like part of a big movement or

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Speaker 1: is that just something that's happening while there's still this

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Speaker 1: wave of you know, right wing hatred kind of building

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Speaker 1: at the same time. Yeah, so there's there's that way

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Speaker 1: of a right wing hatred. And I think that the

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Speaker 1: people that are part of the alt right, and I

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Speaker 1: mean like the core true white nationalists alt right, realize

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Speaker 1: that they're not going to get any of their own

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Speaker 1: people elected, or at least we hope not in. But

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Speaker 1: what they do hope to do is influence the level

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Speaker 1: of public discourse in a way that pools conservative candidates

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Speaker 1: to the right, or influence the public discourse in a

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Speaker 1: way that would make people more sympathetic to more extremist

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Speaker 1: candidates like Roy Moore that we saw. You know, Roy

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Speaker 1: Moore was like accused of sexually assaulting teen girls and

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Speaker 1: that is like appalling enough on his face. But before

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Speaker 1: that he was this like crazy religious right wing uh

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Speaker 1: guy who thought that he could you know, run the

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Speaker 1: state out of a Bible instead of the lawbook, um

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Speaker 1: or what he interpreted to be the Bible anyway. Uh

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Speaker 1: So I think going forward, uh, their goal is going

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Speaker 1: to be more of a cultural one, unless of a

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Speaker 1: less on one of promoting like Richard Spencer to the

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Speaker 1: Senate or something right just to be a factor a

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Speaker 1: force for evil. Well awesome, Well thanks so much Jared

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Speaker 1: for you know, taking the time to talk to us again. Guys,

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Speaker 1: you should please check out right wing watch dot org.

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01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: It is a very interesting website. Like they just really

1133
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: have their finger on everything and are doing great work.

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Speaker 1: Uh And yeah, Jared, I tell people where they can

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Speaker 1: find you. You can find me on Twitter at j

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Speaker 1: A R E D L h O L t um

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Speaker 1: and I'm posting every day to right wing Watch dot

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Speaker 1: org and we're on Twitter, Facebook, all that good stuff,

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Speaker 1: so i just hit it up. Awesome, Jared, thanks so much, man,

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Speaker 1: it was a pleasure. Thanks. All right, all right, that

1141
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Speaker 1: was our interview with Jared Holt from right Wing Watch

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Speaker 1: and we are back with Megan. Megan. It has been

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Speaker 1: such a pleasure to have you here. What a celebratory day.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy I was here on a Doug Jones day

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Speaker 1: and not a Roy Moore victory. Yeah. Well, I mean

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Speaker 1: it would have been it would have been energetic energy

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01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: either way. Yeah. Um, where can people follow you on

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Speaker 1: social media? On my Twitter, Megan Gaily, My website got

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Speaker 1: hacked by up taipe hoorn website, so don't go there

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Speaker 1: right now. It's been taken down. But there was chaipe

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Speaker 1: worn on Megan Gailey dot com. Um, and then you

1152
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: can find me on Instagram. That's better, Megan Gailey because

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Speaker 1: some of the Chad Megan Gailey and I said, no,

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Speaker 1: that's not happening. So best Megan Gilly comes up. I

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Speaker 1: actually own regular Megan Gailey now not regular. I own

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Speaker 1: Megan Gailey too. I have that because she got married

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Speaker 1: and gave it up. Boom. Ladies, keep your last night.

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Speaker 1: You get to keep your Instagram, but then you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have your handle. Okay, well, if you're basic, take your

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Speaker 1: husband's last name. Uh, and that's spelled m E g

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Speaker 1: A N and then Gaily spelled g A I L

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Speaker 1: E y Um. Miles working people. You can find me

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Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Great. You can

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Speaker 1: follow me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can

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Speaker 1: follow us on Instagram at the Daily Zeitgeist. We're on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at daily Zeitgeist. Uh. We have a faithbook fan page.

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Speaker 1: You know how to search words on Faithbook. And you

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Speaker 1: can find us on our website daily zeitgeist dot com

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Speaker 1: where we post our episodes and our foot note foot

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Speaker 1: notes or we link off to the sources for all

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Speaker 1: the ship we'll be talking. Uh, and that's gonna do

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Speaker 1: it for today. Uh. We will be back tomorrow because

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Speaker 1: it is a daily podcast. Talk to you guys,