1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: I am going to DNA test my brother, no matter what. 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Am I the ahle what? 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: No matter what? How are you going to get the 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 2: DNA test from your brother? 5 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 3: Oh that's a good one. 6 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 2: We have another case of you know, people stealing people's 7 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: seed without without consent. 8 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: Look me and Riley, we both have family from the 9 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: south right. I'm looking at it and I'm like, are 10 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: we related at all? What's going on? And I'm like, Riley, 11 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna need a sample, any sample, by any means. 12 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 3: Necessary, Come and take it. 13 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 2: But yeah, I had a super spicy dream the middle 14 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: of the night. 15 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: How did it happen? Who made me had the gay dream? 16 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 3: That's right, Riley, f around and find out my friend. 17 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 3: So let's dive in. 18 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: So I don't know our I've already seen the comments, 19 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: like our audience gets mad at us when we reference 20 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: sex sex sex. We're sorry, apologize in advance. We appreciate 21 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 2: and love you for sticking with us. 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 3: That we do. Quick edit. 23 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: Sorry, I shouldn't have assumed it was obvious, but my 24 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: brother consented to all of this. We've discussed it many times. 25 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: Now. Ah, okay, any. 26 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: Means meaning, I will ethically and foreshore get his consent. 27 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 3: There we go. We love that consent to sexy. 28 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: I have been waiting until I had enough money to 29 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: buy a DNA kit, and oh boy, I am about 30 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: to get paid, which means it's time to make a decision. 31 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: My father cheated on my step mother and made me 32 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: with my biological mother. 33 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: Wow. 34 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: So basically the father was with this woman who is 35 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: basically his step mom. Now, yeah, went off in the side, 36 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: had a side piece. That's that's his real mom. 37 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: So he has a baby, mama, that's a side piece. 38 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: With the stepmom. She's like basically mothering him and married 39 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: to the dad. Basically step mom is mothering Ope. So 40 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: the baby she's with the father, she is his step mother. 41 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: She is with the father. Okay, Yes, my biological mother 42 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: had a child a year before me, who she initially 43 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: claimed was also my father's child, but my father denied him. 44 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: My biological mother has since passed away. Wow so much 45 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: so soon, so wow. He also had a brother the 46 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: year before. It seems like the biological mother is claiming him. 47 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: Mind you, this isn't the woman with his dad in 48 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: a relationship with his dad what? So basically he's like 49 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: the side pieces kid, right? The woman raising him as 50 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: his mother. The year before he was born op year 51 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: before OPI was born, his biological mother also had another 52 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: kid who his biological mother was saying to his father, Hey, 53 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: this is your kid, like na, No, but the father 54 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: is acknowledging that op is. 55 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: That's just weird, Like if you acknowledged one, why not 56 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: why not the other? I mean it is twice the work. 57 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: It is twice the work. 58 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: But at that point, yeah, are you admitting to cheating 59 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: and having one. 60 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 4: So much lies? I don't think he just wants to 61 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 4: keep up with another lie. 62 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe something like babe, I swear it was just once, 63 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: and you know once is enough to have a kid. 64 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: The math ain't quite a math in here, so let's calculate. 65 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: Growing up, I had no contact with this brother, but 66 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: now we've connected and I'd love to know if he 67 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: is my full brother, basically proving the father wrong. 68 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh shit, Okay, I see, I see where this 69 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: is young and biological mother has passed away, so they 70 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: can't even just go an abstronim right. He has all 71 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: of my father's feature looking strikingly like him, so I'm sure. 72 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: I know what the test will say. Yeah, Unfortunately, my 73 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: father is not a good man. I worry if I 74 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: confirm we are siblings, it may inspire my brother to 75 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: get involved with my father, despite the fact that my 76 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: brother says he doesn't care that he. 77 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 3: Has no father. So the brothers basically has no idea. 78 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: So Opie's almost saying like, it would be better if 79 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: he didn't know he was related to my father, because 80 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: that man is a dick. 81 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 3: It will only ruin his life. Can of worms. 82 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: You've got to be a bad person to be like, 83 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: don't even figure out who the father is, Like, you're 84 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: better off with. 85 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: Father than knowing this guy as your father. Yikes. 86 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: I'd rather spare my brother the experience of being close 87 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: to my father. How likely is it that my brother 88 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: won't want to reach out to my father once it's confirmed. 89 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: I feel maybe like I'm being selfish by wanting the test, 90 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: but to me, it's so awesome because my brother could 91 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: be the closest relative. 92 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 3: That I have. 93 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: Also, knowing more about the lows my father is willing 94 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: to go to it would be helpful for me personally 95 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: as well. 96 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 3: It's just another insight into who his father really is. 97 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: Is it the worst thing in the world if he 98 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: reaches out to my father. Anyways, Would I be the 99 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: ahole if I start the ball rolling on this and 100 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: go for the DNA test? Carrie Sam, everyone watching? That 101 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: is the question, would OP be the a hole for 102 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: doing the DNA test? 103 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 4: Kind of a multi multi pronged answer that I think 104 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 4: would be my personal rational answer in the scenario. Nope, 105 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 4: they are not an asshole for getting their brother a 106 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 4: DNA test. But it's not an asshole thing to worry 107 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 4: about whether or not the brother will we reach out 108 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 4: to the father. It's just it's not something that OP 109 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 4: can control. It's out of op's control at this point 110 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 4: what the brother wants to do after. So that's like 111 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 4: the difference, Like, Yep, you're not an asshole for you know, 112 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 4: doing the DNA test. There's logical reasons as long as 113 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 4: you don't infringe on your brother's decision. 114 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: Exactly like I think OP getting the ball rolling but 115 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: not forcing anything. If the brother doesn't want to do 116 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 2: the DNA test, then you should respect the brother's wishes. 117 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: But if you say, hey, I'm doing this DNA test 118 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 2: for me, if you want to do it too, that 119 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,559 Speaker 2: would be awesome, and the brother does it, then great, 120 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: Opie's only the asshole if like they manipulate the brother 121 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: into doing something that they don't want to. 122 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: Do, which from the edit in the beginning was like, hey, 123 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: the brother is game for this, Like the brother doesn't 124 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: mind I do. 125 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: I think then with that extra knowledge, Opie is not 126 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 2: the ahole. 127 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: Here's the next quick question. 128 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: How far do you go if you know that the 129 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: father is just absolute bad news and you know what, 130 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: you don't know exactly what's going to happen. How far 131 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: do you go to kind of like protect your brother 132 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: from building the relationship with the father, or do you 133 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: do anything other than just saying he's bad news, don't contact. 134 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: I think you just give the I mean, you can't 135 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: stop someone from having a relationship with their father, Yeah, 136 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: but you can give warnings. Yeah, just say hey, this 137 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: is my experience. It's like what else can you do? 138 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 4: There's nothing you could The moment you start kind of 139 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 4: controlling what you Opie's brother wants to do, that's when 140 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 4: you become. 141 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: The that's when you become a populative exactly. 142 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you kind of just got to have to 143 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 4: let that be, see what happens. 144 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: That's true, But you know what I want to see happen. 145 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: What I want to see us close out this monster 146 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 2: episode with this final story. 147 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: Let's do it. 148 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 4: Let's do it. 149 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:15,119 Speaker 2: I demanded that my deceased husband's children take a DNA test. 150 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: Am I the a hole? 151 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: Listen, give them a beat many their dad like. 152 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: At the funeral, all right, I will be taking hair 153 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: samples and spit samples. 154 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: It's like I object do this, and they're like. 155 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: We are gathered here today to bless this objected whe. 156 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 4: It's like everyone sobbing and crying, like, oh my god, 157 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 4: now take. 158 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 3: A test party. 159 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: She goes to that, she's like scooping their tears. 160 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 3: So it's like, you need the tsure. He go puts 161 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 3: it in a bag. My plane is working perfectly. 162 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: So I thirty six female and the second slash final, 163 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,119 Speaker 2: wife of my husband James, saying second and final. 164 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 3: That's kind of saddling. She killed him. Thirty nine male. 165 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: That's a whole nother Reddit story. He passed away and 166 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: well passed away. We have a baby boy together. James 167 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: had two daughters, Emma sixteen female and Claire fourteen female, 168 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: with his ex wife Lucy forty two female. Lucy was 169 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: the wife James's parents always wanted for him and kept 170 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: pushing him to date her. James told me that while 171 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 2: he loved Lucy, he was never in love with her 172 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 2: and just went through the motions and told me numerous 173 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 2: times that he never would have married her if Lucy 174 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: hadn't gotten pregnant with Emma Ouch. James admitted to having 175 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: a one night stand with a coworker and decided that 176 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: he was tired of being married to Lucy, hoping that 177 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: she would initiate divorce. 178 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 3: That's pussy behavior, yeah, yeah, himself. 179 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: Jerrie tell him, James is just like, yeah, I'm gonna 180 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: cheat until she divorces name. She wouldn't, so he eventually 181 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: filed and I met with him two years later. Lucy 182 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 2: got it in her mind that I was the other 183 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: woman and made it her mission to paint me as such, 184 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: rough even after James was able to prove that it 185 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 2: was someone else. I went from an affair partner to 186 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 2: the woman keeping James from reuniting with his family. James 187 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 2: always defended me and even went low contact with his 188 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: parents for a while. I kept trying, but after a 189 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: while it got to be too much and I decided 190 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 2: to end things. But I did find out that I 191 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: was pregnant. Oh yeah, James and I decided to get married. 192 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 3: Great. 193 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: I feel James is like back to backs, like fuck, dude, yeah, 194 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: I keep having to get married to these people pregnant 195 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: wanted to and James's daughters did not take the news 196 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: well and refused to attend the wedding, and his parents 197 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: backed out at the last minute. James passed away in 198 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: an accident later on, and I was five months along 199 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: at the time. A little subsicious. I'm not saying that like, 200 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: oh he killed her husband, but like, I mean, there's motive. 201 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 5: If someone passes away, do they usually like like instigate, 202 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 5: like say a reason like oh he died in a 203 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 5: car accident or stuff like that, Like is that normal 204 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 5: or do people? 205 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: Like I think there someone pushes for the investigation, right 206 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: because someone's like, oh, hey, I think something happened, or 207 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: maybe if they're doing like the autopsy or something. 208 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 2: Actually, there's always like when someone dies. So I did 209 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: a series on like death for of course, you're dining 210 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 2: Founders a while ago, and even when you're in a 211 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: hospice care and someone dies, they send the police to 212 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: go and look and just like assess is it natural causes. 213 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: Interesting that that's the same for suicide and like all 214 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 2: these kind of things. 215 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: Right, wow, so is it safe to say that in 216 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: all scenarios do they try to assess if there was 217 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: like foul play? 218 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? 219 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so like it's like there's not really a reason too, 220 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: so it's a more cursory look. 221 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, at least that's what I've heard. 222 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 2: I imagine maybe it's like big cities, or maybe it's. 223 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: It's because if someone's living in a cab in the 224 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: woods and just goes puts, then how do they know? 225 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 5: Ye? 226 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: But yeah, if they know, if they know, then they know. 227 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: I mean I imagine if they die in a hospital 228 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 2: or something, Right. 229 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, we're literally doing all the records and 230 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: how's this is the official part of the procedure. 231 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, this was specifically what the people I was talking 232 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: to they were advocating for instead of dying in a 233 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: hospital or in a hospice, Like that's like these like 234 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: super curated like uh, not pristine with. 235 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 3: The word steril sterile. 236 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like super sterile environments, Like why not die 237 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: at home where they're more comfortable. Yeah, But the process 238 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 2: afterwards is having to have the police come. 239 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 3: And I see murder. 240 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: Oh anyway, we're not saying, oh, he murdered the parents, 241 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: is just it's a little fishy. When Lucy showed up 242 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: at the funeral, I just decided to let her in 243 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: for the Emma and Claire, and then Lucy loudly rehashed 244 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 2: her old claims about me and even accused my baby 245 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 2: of not being James's what Ooh, I had my son 246 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 2: and then James's parents so because Opi was five months pregnant, yeah, 247 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: and then Opie had her son, and James's parents only 248 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: reached out to demand of eternity test. I agreed if 249 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 2: they paid for it, And when it was revealed that 250 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: James was indeed the father, suddenly they became more eager 251 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 2: to see and speak to me. 252 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 3: Now there's now their grand baby is here. 253 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 2: They were shocked when I denied them access, and it 254 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: wasn't until after they gave me a sincere apology that 255 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: I started sending pictures. But when they asked when they 256 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: could see my son in purse, and I told them 257 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: they could have supervised visits. Once they started treating all 258 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 2: their grandchildren equally in every way, James's parents set up 259 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: a trust fund and started saving to put my son 260 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 2: into a private school that I desired, just like they 261 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: were doing for the girls. Then they asked again, and 262 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: I said that one once they sent proof that Emma 263 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 2: and Claire were tested, they could attend my son's first 264 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: birthday party. Okay, So basically, OP is like, you wanted 265 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: a paternity test for my kid, why don't you put 266 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: paternity test for the other two kids somewhere? So put 267 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: them through the ringer and then you could see. 268 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 4: Your chest to test we're getting somewhere. 269 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: James's parents were shocked, but I reminded them of my 270 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 2: requirement for equal treatment. If my kid had to get tested, 271 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: then so should Lucy's if they didn't want to miss 272 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: out on the first eighteen years of my son's life. 273 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: James's parents felt like I was being petty, but guess what, 274 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: I didn't care. James's parents have not gone to Lucy 275 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 2: about a DNA test, and she and the girls are refusing, 276 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 2: So James's parents are threatening to cut them off financially. 277 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: Lucy and her daughters are now blaming me, but I'm 278 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: already used to the hate. So so the question is 279 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: am I the a hole? 280 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 4: Nah? 281 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: I want to know what all of you think. But 282 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: Carrie John, is OP the a hole for demanding a 283 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 2: fraternity test universally for. 284 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 4: All children, universal basic paternity fraternity. 285 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 286 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: Actually we've advocated for on this show, like immediately when 287 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 2: you get born, paternity test to see who's the actual 288 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 2: father forever. 289 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: We found that there are I think France and some 290 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,119 Speaker 1: other countries paternity tests. 291 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: Are literally illegal or illegal, oh right, because everyone's like 292 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: having cause to just deteriorate. Yes, why France is built 293 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: on mistresses. 294 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: They're like, we would rather our society just be like 295 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: less riddled with like all of the situations like this 296 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, this person's father is not their 297 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: actual father or whatever the case might be. 298 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 3: No paternity tests, just. 299 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: People fucking and a baby. My god, So what do 300 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: you think A whole not the ale? 301 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 302 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 4: I don't think she's the a whole. I mean they 303 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 4: wanted equal kind of not responsibilities, but equal tasks distributed. 304 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 4: I don't think it's an a whole thing. But yeah, also, 305 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 4: I mean another thing with can of worms, anything could 306 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 4: possibly happen, right, But. 307 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: I think the thing that I feel like OP is 308 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: a little bit of the a hole because it's not 309 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: affecting just Lucy, and it's not affecting just the parents, 310 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: affecting the kids who are kind. 311 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 3: Of blameless in this situation. 312 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I was debating. I think I think I 313 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: am on the spectrum. I think I'm just below in 314 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: the not the ahole corner because like when someone honestly, 315 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: I kind of wonder if OP is even I almost 316 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: feel like OP is like making them jump through all 317 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: these hoops because it's like, listen, I went through all 318 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: of this disrespect and like all of this stuff, I'm 319 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: just gonna like keep throwing up loops the same way, 320 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: like indirectionally, but the same way. You kind of like 321 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: through all of these like bs reasons to disrespect me. 322 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: And just because I don't I don't want a relationship, but. 323 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: Because I don't, yeah, it's like, let me keep giving 324 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: you these impossible challenges along the way. Get a fund 325 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: for my child, for your grandchild, to set you up. 326 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 3: So I totally. 327 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: Understand the thing of like, look, if you're gonna disrespect. 328 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 3: Me, like maybe it's going two ways. 329 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: They're going to disrespect you, But I also totally see 330 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: what you're saying that there there. 331 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 2: Are you would agree that the kids are are blameless, 332 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: right they are? Yeah, and I feel like they are 333 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: being like like, maybe Lucy deserves it a little bit, 334 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: but I feel like kids are I mean maybe I 335 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: guess the kids did hate on Op. 336 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 4: Wait what did Lucy deserve though? 337 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: Was Lucia bad? 338 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 4: Apart from the funeral of where she said stuff to Ope, 339 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 4: what did Lucy actually do that was? 340 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 3: You know, was the first first wife? Right? 341 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: So basically, when Lucy showed up that the funeral, this 342 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: is to rehash when Lucy showed up the funeral, I 343 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 2: just decided to let her in for the sake of 344 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: Emma and Claire. And then Lucy loudly rehashed her old 345 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: claims about me and even accuse my baby of not 346 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: being James's. So Lucy is like, yo, that kid ain't 347 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: even James as his kid because Opee cheated. And so 348 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: now op is like, okay, if you're going to say 349 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: that I cheated and you want to be like in 350 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 2: the family unit and like oh and the your you know, 351 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: the parents want to betcha in the family unit, then 352 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: test her kids. 353 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: To test Lucy's kids. I wonder if there's another way 354 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 3: to like it. 355 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: Probably not something equally equivalent, but something that like still 356 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: kind of like gets the dig at Lucy without involving 357 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: the children. But also to your point, again, earlier, the 358 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: children were also hating on Op too, right, which I 359 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: could see the animosity because maybe the other kids are like, yeah, 360 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: you my you know my dad left my mom for you. 361 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: So so maybe there is a little animosity, but it's 362 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: like justify like they didn't. 363 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like we have any evidence of the 364 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: kids coming at Ope like Lucy. 365 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, like like like egregiously. Yeah. So I think if 366 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 2: Ope was doing something that didn't involve the kids but 367 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 2: digged at Lucy, I would say like totally not the asshole, 368 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: totally fine. 369 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 370 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 2: Because of this, I think just like just teetering over 371 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 2: a little bit mostly not the A whole, like like 372 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: maybe two percent a hole from going all the way. 373 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 3: You guys are on the fence too much. 374 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: Come on, like, I'm not not the a whole, I'm overall, 375 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm not the a whole overall. 376 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 3: Yea overall, not the totally the ahole. Okay, okay, okay, 377 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 3: here's my thing. 378 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 5: What is gained If the kids are you know, you 379 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 5: figure out who's from who? That just complicates things because 380 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 5: they're like, like you said, Sam, the kids have nothing 381 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 5: to do with this, and it's just between two women 382 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 5: like pointing fingers at each. 383 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 3: Other about like no, no, no, no, like, oh. 384 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 2: People's counter you with this, count you with this. If 385 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 2: those two kids are not biologically related to the dead father, 386 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 2: they haven't alive father somewhere out there. So getting a 387 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: DNA test could show the kids who the real father is. 388 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 2: And then it's like ah, shit dad, round two. 389 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: And yeah, and if the test it shows it's James, 390 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: then it's fine because we already knew this. 391 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 5: But like the immediate caretakers are going to be like, 392 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 5: oh this is from this husband in this situation, YadA, yah, YadA, 393 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 5: and it's going to be like a bunch of like, 394 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 5: you know, the kids just gonna have a lot of 395 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 5: stress on them. 396 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 3: Yes, I should agree. 397 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: I think the kids. The kids will be stressed. But 398 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: the thing is like OPI isn't saying you kids, go 399 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 2: get DNA tests. OPI is saying it to the parents. Yes, 400 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: right where it's just like basically like go go do 401 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: what you did to us to the kids. But I 402 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 2: guess it what it actually to go contrast, I point 403 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 2: it is already affecting the kids because the parents are like, 404 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: no inheritance. 405 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 3: For you exactly, So the question is kind of stuck. 406 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: Tiebreaker every single person watching here put down below for 407 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: story number five is op the whole. 408 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna go back. I'm going to say asshole. 409 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to say asshole. I'm gonna go I'm on 410 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: not the a whole, I think, not the ale. Literally 411 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 2: fifty to fifty split. You all have to be the tiebreakers. 412 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: Let us know that assemble. Please let us know in 413 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: the comments. If you love us, make sure to subscribe. 414 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 3: We love you and see you tomorrow. This is an 415 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 3: episode from Deep within the Archives. Time for okop relam. 416 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 2: My boyfriend couldn't handle the fame of our viral video, 417 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 2: so he left me for his X. 418 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: You know, some people just get uh you know, too 419 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: too big and too famous, and you just gotta heartlessly 420 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: leave them. 421 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, you get you get the year fifteen minutes of 422 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 2: fame and they're like, shit, I can't handle I'm late 423 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: and I gotta I gotta get out of here, get 424 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 2: me look. 425 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 3: Let me, you know. Tire to the Winds write a book. 426 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, just let me get you out of my life, 427 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: and and I'll screw you and steady in the back 428 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: and hiding hide in a forest with my ex. 429 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 3: Like that's that's the point. Hide with the X. Just 430 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 3: make sure their family doesn't get them out of you, 431 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:47,719 Speaker 3: all right. 432 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 2: Last year, I'd posted this video of my then boyfriend 433 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 2: of two and a half years returning from his deployment, 434 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 2: and our relationship ended days after. Also, I'm looking at 435 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: the video, it's so cute. They're like they like she 436 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: jumps into it, just literally humps on him like a Yeah. 437 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: Some backstory. We started dating, he enlisted, he's in the pipeline. 438 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 2: We lived together, he graduated, he got orders, and we 439 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 2: planned to move together. My items and his were sent 440 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 2: off into a cube to the other side of the 441 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 2: country while I stayed with my sister and brother in 442 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 2: law during his deployment in our home state. I was 443 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 2: working on grad school, my mental health, et cetera. And 444 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 2: I couldn't work a long term job because I had 445 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 2: to leave it soon. Anyway, staying with them was a 446 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 2: huge privilege I was given, and I don't take their 447 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 2: graciousness and generosity lightly. I was ready to leave though, 448 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: get me out of here. 449 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 3: He'd been gone for. 450 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: Seven months and drove down to my house from his 451 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 2: city during his short leave. I later learned that in 452 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: his home city, he'd kissed his ex, propositioned her for sex, 453 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 2: and during deployment, asked her to move in with him 454 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: to the state where. 455 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 3: My things were already waiting. 456 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: Don't worry, like I've got this other chick stuff, Like, 457 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: we'll just get it out of here. 458 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 3: Like, just just move in with me. Just just do it. 459 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 3: Just do it. 460 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 2: I mean, at least tell your other your other girl 461 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,239 Speaker 2: before you freaking. I mean, I guess, like you know, 462 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 2: he's mitigating his losses, you know, like if one doesn't 463 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: work out, he still got the other one. 464 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me just He secretly invited like seven girls 465 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: to live with they He's like, okay. 466 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 2: Which one do I wow, who's going to a bachelorette. 467 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 2: When we were together, he was snapping this girl from 468 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: his ship and they had several months worth of a snapstrike. 469 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: I know it's superficial, but we couldn't maintain one. 470 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 3: That is kind of sad. I guess it's pretty sad. 471 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 2: I tried putting the moves on multiple times, but he 472 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 2: kept rejecting me because of some rash he had on 473 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 2: his You know, oh you gotta said when he learned 474 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: I didn't want to spend one of my few days 475 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 2: in California in a hotel room with two girls from 476 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 2: his ship? 477 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: Is he trying to hey, girl friend, these are some 478 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: friends that I made in they both women, So you 479 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: want to do it? 480 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 3: Or what? Whoa what? 481 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: We later compromised on brunch, and it was like I 482 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 2: didn't exist and was wrong for it. His girl paid 483 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 2: the bill and he was quick to send her the 484 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: money and we left his girl. I'm confused, like does 485 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 2: he have like army army girlfriends? I guess he does. 486 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: He was still concerned about his rash, so we walked 487 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 2: to the clinic. He didn't stay long, claiming he's insurance 488 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 2: did in transfer from one coast to the other and 489 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 2: couldn't afford testing. 490 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 3: Okay. 491 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: I returned home and posted the video, excited he was back. 492 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 2: He was getting anxious as it grew in popularity and 493 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: news outlets were reaching out for use in interviews. No, bro, 494 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 2: we want. 495 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 3: To hear about your love and how strong it is. 496 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 2: Oh God, I kept telling him and asking if he'd 497 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 2: be down to share our story and the video. One 498 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 2: week later, we chose in a place to live and 499 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: we're ready to sign the lease. He then calls me 500 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 2: from a hotel room and says, I can't do this. 501 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: I've never been in love with you. You've only ever 502 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 2: been a friend. You are an afterthought and not much more. 503 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 2: And you know this. You were a roommate I slept with. You, 504 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: were the most supportive girlfriend I've ever had. But it's 505 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: not enough. 506 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 3: Fuck. 507 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: That is like one of the worst ways you can 508 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: break I mean, wow, God, you're an afterthought. Like he 509 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: could have just said, like, I just see you as 510 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: a friend, and I don't think like this. I don't 511 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: think we're meant to be in a relationship. He's like, you, 512 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: you're a roommate I had sex with. 513 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 2: Fuck, dude, that's so I'm baffled. I'm I'm speechless. I 514 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: facetimed him and saw someone with dry eyes and a 515 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 2: flat face. I asked, why aren't you crying like I am? 516 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 2: He said, because I don't care about you the way 517 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 2: you do about me. I never have, and I feel 518 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 2: like this makes it clear shit. Shortly after he started 519 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 2: dating the girl I met at brunch in retrospect. We 520 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: were doomed to fail and he was full of red flags, 521 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 2: but he felt familiar. I thought I felt loved, but 522 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 2: I had to work hard for it. I posted that 523 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 2: video and excitement, and instead he broke up with me 524 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: and his mom had to drive six hours each way 525 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 2: to pick up his truck from my house. He sent 526 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 2: my things down, but most of it was damage beyond use. 527 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 2: Oh it's been a lot of work to rebuild my life, 528 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 2: but things are much much better. The video made me 529 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 2: feel a lot of regret, embarrassment, and grief, but I'm 530 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: glad it happened when it did. 531 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: Yikes, can you imagine, I mean, just like the most unnecessary, 532 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: like awful. That's the worst breakup everd to someone like 533 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: you're an afterthought, You're a roommate I had sex with. 534 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 2: Oh my god, It's just it's just so cruel. 535 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: There's no there's literally no reason he could have been like, Okay, 536 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like super super honest with you and 537 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: been like, you know, I've sexually attracted to you, but 538 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: you know, don't feel like we should be in a relationship. 539 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: Like he could list it out in a way that 540 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: like explains why. 541 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, but this like like how he how he 542 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: did it is just so I think it's not even truthful. 543 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 3: It's just it's just cruel. It's it's just cruel. 544 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 2: He's doing a way to say it nicely and still 545 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 2: be honest, but he's just being like fuck this girl, 546 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 2: and why. 547 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 3: Like there's no reason whatsoever. 548 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,719 Speaker 2: Maybe he feels bad about like cheating on her, and 549 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: he's like. 550 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: So he's digging in something like that. 551 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I don't know. You're right, who 552 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:22,239 Speaker 2: knows what? 553 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 3: Who does? This guy's a psychopath. 554 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: Everyone find him and then let's like comment peach emojis 555 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: on his stuff or something.