1 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: First, I want to wish everyone a happy Easter Sunday. 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: I hope the weather is great where you are and 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: you are able to spend time with family and friends. 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: I also want to wish everyone a happy Passover. It's 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: a wonderful time of the year. And on this episode 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: of Nutsworld, I want to focus on the meaning of Easter, 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: the Gospel, the history, and how it's relevant to our 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: lives today. And I'm really pleased to welcome my guest, 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: Father Enrique Salvo, the rector of Saint Patrick's Cathedral in 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: New York City. Father Salvo, thank you so much for 11 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: joining me. Thank you, mister Gingrich. It's an honor and 12 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: happy Easter to everyone. Well, Chleusta. My wife was pointing 13 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: out to me that this is probably, from the standpoint 14 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: of the church, the busiest single week of the year. 15 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: So I'm doubly grateful that you would take a little 16 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: bit of time in the middle of this week to 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: share with us. But what's your week been like? You 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: have a wonderful church, a huge number of both local 19 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: members and guests who come from all over the world. 20 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: How's your week been. It's been so beautiful. We're very 21 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: grateful because, you know, after COVID and all the shutdowns 22 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: and everything, it's great to have so many people back 23 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: in the cathedrals. It's been such a beautiful week and 24 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: it's so exciting first of all to welcome so many 25 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: people back to the cathedral, especially visitors from all over 26 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: the world. And it's beautiful, you know, to see people 27 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: from so many nationalities and cultures and so many people 28 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: that visit New York City and then come to the 29 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: cathedral in this place that's everyone's home, and just to 30 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: see how Jesus came to save the entire world. And 31 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: we're all here gathered in this cathedral role in so 32 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: many churches of the world celebrating this. This is my 33 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: first year as director. I started just over five months ago, 34 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: so this is my first Holy Week in the cathedral 35 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: and it's definitely a very exciting place to be. I 36 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: was gonna say, you also have the great I guess 37 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: opportunity and challenge that you have in Cardinal Dolan, one 38 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: of the greatest and most dynamic leaders in the church. 39 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: I've always thought it must be something to work near him. Definitely, 40 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: it's a huge inspiration for my priesthood and it's beautiful 41 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: to see him with the people. His joy, his enthusiasm 42 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: for the priesthood, for the church is all day. It's 43 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: not just like when he comes to the Mass. He's 44 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: always like that, and it's so inspiring to see that 45 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: he deals with the good and the bad and the 46 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: problems that we deal with in life and the church 47 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: and so on. But it's good that he always has 48 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: his hope and it's great to see that. And by 49 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: the way he sends his best and his many blessings 50 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: to everyone, it's always very good, both to Callista and 51 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: to me. He's given her Ellis the Elephant children's series too, 52 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: I think his nieces and nephews. And he's used our 53 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: movie Nine Days to change the world about Pope John 54 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: Paul A. Second, he's used it in classes. So we 55 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 1: feel very close to the Cardinal. He's a person who 56 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: loves life. I mean, he just exudes how much he 57 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: loves life. But let's talk a little bit about the 58 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: most important week in the year from the standpoint of 59 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: the church, the week in which everything is either real 60 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: and we are offered salvation or it's not. And therefore 61 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: the worship and the tradition and the importance of Easter Week, 62 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: I think cannot be overstated. Can you walk us through 63 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: starting with ash Wednesday and the whole tradition that begins 64 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: on that date up through Lent. Yes. So ash Wednesday, 65 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: of course is at the beginning of the Lenten season, 66 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: and it's the beginning of the time of preparation that 67 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: is Land. It's a time not only to prepare for 68 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: Holy Week, for the tradium to be ready for Easter, 69 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: but it's also a beautiful time for us to composer 70 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: to our Lord and that it becomes something new in 71 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: our lives. So it's a time during Land in which 72 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: we pray more, we give alms, and we fast, which 73 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: of course includes looking at those things in our life 74 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: that cannot up, that become unhealthy or become in some 75 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: way or another distracting to our relationship with God and others. 76 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: And it's a good time for us to ask God 77 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: to help us heal from So it's a beautiful time 78 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: not only to prepare for Easter, but also just to 79 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 1: create new habits in our spiritual life that will always 80 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: help us. And the deal is that every Lent we 81 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: build up throughout our life. And so of course we 82 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: begin ash Wednesday with the ashes, which of course is 83 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: an ancient sign of penance. Even in the Old Testament 84 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: we see when they would put ashes in their face 85 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: as a sign of repentance. So that's one of the 86 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: reasons of the ashes. But it's also a beautiful reminder 87 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: when we hear the prayer that is said on ash Wednesday, 88 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: as we are receiving the ashes, remember that you are 89 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: dust and to dust you shall return. Now, if we 90 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: think about it, that's not the nicest thing that the 91 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: Church is telling the people, but it's actually a very 92 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: beautiful thing because it's a reminder that yes, at the 93 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: end of the day, we are dust and too dust 94 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: we shall return. But we remember that our soul was 95 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: created for all of eternity, and therefore, of course we 96 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: appreciate this life and we see the gift that it 97 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: is every day and we try our best to make 98 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: use of this gift that God has given us. But 99 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: it's also very important for us to remember that there's 100 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: more to it. This isn't it, And we have to 101 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: always have our focus on heaven, and we always have 102 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: to have our focus on the eternal life that Jesus 103 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: Christ has come and promised us and gained for us. 104 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: So when we begin Ash Wednesday, through that prayer, it's 105 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: a reminder that whatever has happened in our lives that 106 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: has made us perhaps to attached to the things of 107 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: the world, including the anxieties, the distractions, all the business everything, 108 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: it's a reminder to focus back to Heaven and to 109 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: focus back on what really matters in the big picture 110 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: of it all. So Land is a time in which 111 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: we do that, and the more we live it through 112 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: an increasing prayer and fasting and alms giving, which is 113 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: the tradeational length and formula, we will come to that 114 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: place in which we are closer to God and our 115 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: eyes fixed back into Heaven. So we lived the Lenten 116 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: season until, of course we have Palm Sunday, and before 117 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: we get to the tritium where we start Holy Week 118 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: and Palm Sunday is of course, we received this from 119 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: the Gospel when Jesus entered triumphantly into Jerusalem, when he 120 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: was at that moment welcomed from all of his followers, 121 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: from his disciples. Remember that all of these people have 122 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: gathered from all over for the feasts of the Passover, 123 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: and they were welcoming him with branches as he came 124 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: in in the Donkey, and the palms have always, especially 125 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: in ancient times, signified victory and triumph to this day. 126 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: If we see even in the images of the martyrs, 127 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: they always carry palm branches, showing their victory by entering Heaven. 128 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: But then, of course, as we begin the Liturgy of 129 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: Palm Sunday that begins in such a triumphant way, and 130 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: it's such a celebratory way, we very quickly begin to 131 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: read the Passion, which reminds us that he enters triumphantly 132 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: into Jerusalem. But before the glory of his resurrection, he's 133 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: going to go through his passion, and it's a reminder 134 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: that this week we're going to walk with him during 135 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: his most difficult moments, before we come to the resurrection 136 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: of Easter. I mean, one of the things that strikes 137 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: me because the entry into Jerusalem shows up in all 138 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: four Gospels, and I think part of what makes Christianity 139 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: so compelling is that this is clearly a historic event. 140 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: This is not some mythology that they saw him do this, 141 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: They saw the crowd respond to him. I suspect the 142 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: very power of the popular response to Christ's century is 143 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: part of what drives the traditional establishment to want to 144 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: get him killed because he suddenly is clearly more popular 145 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: and more powerful than they are. Exactly, they were seeing that, 146 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: they were seeing the fact that everyone was also going 147 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: to Bethany. He had resurrected last Rous from the Dad 148 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: and Bethany is only a few kilometers from Jerusalem. People 149 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: were flocking there as well. He was being accepted, People 150 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: were realizing that this was truly the Messiah, and of 151 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: course that was what infuriated those that ended up persecuting it. 152 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: And on Holy Thursday, I think you have what's clearly 153 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 1: a historic reality that he did have dinner with the apostles. 154 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: He did wash their feet, something which I believe the 155 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: Pope is going to a prison to wash the feet 156 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: of prisoners again, which is something that Pope Francis has 157 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 1: done pretty routinely as a minder of serving all of us, 158 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: no matter how poor and no matter how difficult. It is. 159 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: At this point in the Last Supper that Christ really 160 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: begins what is now a twenty two hundred year tradition 161 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: worldwide by creating and establishing the Eucharist. When he says, 162 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: this is my body, this is my blood, which is phenomenal, 163 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: and that every priest represents Christ. You're not representing Christ, 164 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: you're representing him and the person whose devout is in 165 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: fact absorbing Christ and becoming with Christ at that communion. 166 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: In that sense, Holy Thursday seems to me it's sort 167 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: of the pivotal point of preparing all of us for 168 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: how will be after He has died and come back 169 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: and go on to heaven. But that dinner and that 170 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: tradition is the central leverage point that allows all of 171 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: us to be a part of him. Yes, it's the 172 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: first Mass, and he by instituting the Eucharist in the 173 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: Last Supper, he institutes the fact that He will always 174 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: be present physically with us throughout time. He promised that 175 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: he would not leave us alone, that he would not 176 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: leave us orphans, that he was always going to be 177 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 1: with us physically, and he does so through the Eucharist. 178 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: And it's a beautiful reminder because of course he shows 179 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: his humility. He shows that he has come to serve 180 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: and not be served. He shows that he hasn't come 181 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: like all of the King's power that is used to 182 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: getting so many people to serve them. He has come 183 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: to serve others and it's a model for us to follow. 184 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: Of course, it's the model of the priesthood, for us 185 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: to truly be disciples of Jesus Christ, to always love 186 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: one another, serve one another, be there for one another. 187 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: But then we have to realize something extremely important as well, 188 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: the fact that one of the most humble actions that 189 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: Jesus does, if we think about the Eucharist itself, it's 190 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: an extreme sign of God's humility. When he institutes the 191 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: Eucharist on that Holy Thursday, he basically makes himself physically 192 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: present for all of the history of the world until 193 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: the end of time in a piece of bread and 194 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: the wine. And that is deep humility in the fact 195 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: that He's basically putting himself forever in our hands, not 196 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: only the priest who do the consecration he had his 197 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: first priest there, the apostles, but also the entire Church, 198 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: the entire world, because it's going to be then up 199 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: to us if we're going to really revere him, love him, 200 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 1: thank him for this great gift of the Eucharist, or 201 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: are we going to ignore it and just basically not 202 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: be interested in the fact that He comes and makes 203 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: himself present in this bread and this wine, and then 204 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: he is there in all the tabernacles of the world. 205 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: It's an extremely powerful thing. It's just a sign of 206 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: his humility. Before even passion begins, and we're talking about 207 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: you know, this is hours before everything begins. He's already 208 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: showing how humble he is by instituting the Eucharist. I've 209 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: never quite thought of it the way you just explained 210 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: to which is truly powerful and beautiful. But if I 211 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: understand you, you're saying in the deepest sense that by 212 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: the act of allowing us free choice, he's not imposing 213 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: the Eucharist on us. He is offering us the opportunity 214 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: to accept or not accept, and in that sense has 215 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: transferred the power of decision to us as mere immortals, 216 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: in a way that is not how we normally think 217 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: of God's operating. Yes, it's up to us whether we're 218 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: going to accept the graces, it's up to us whether 219 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: we're going to have faith. And Saint alphonses lycoris But 220 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: the Eucharist, all it takes is one Eucharist filled with 221 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: complete faith to make us into saints. And we have 222 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: to be ourselves humble that we always need to pray 223 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: for increasing faith in the real presence of the Eucharist. 224 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: But we want to want that in the first place, 225 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: and it's a relationship with the Eucharist that makes grow 226 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: in that love for His presence in the Eucharist, and 227 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: that's something that it's going to be ultimately our choice 228 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: whether we're going to really take that serious, really believe 229 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: his words this is my body, and really see the 230 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: gift that He is giving us, or if we're not. 231 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: The major problem is the amount of people that perhaps 232 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: don't care enough or want to believe enough about the Eucharist. 233 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: If we all did, every church of the world would 234 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: always be full. You know, we would never miss a Mass. 235 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: It wouldn't even be something that we would even once 236 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: as an option. The more we believe in the Eucharist, 237 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: the more we will come to Him, and then we're 238 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: opening ourselves to Him, and we come to the Eucharist 239 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: to allow Him to fill us with his grace. Well, 240 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: and then it becomes very poignant because having established the Eucharist, 241 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: having shared it with the apostles, they apparently, according to 242 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: the goss sang together. So here's Christ singing with his disciples. 243 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: And then they go to the amount of olives where 244 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: he prays in the garden of your Semite. And I 245 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: think that's really the moment when he comes to grips 246 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: with the fact that the next few days are going 247 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: to be truly terrible and that he has to somehow 248 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: endure them in order to fulfill his mission. Yes, and 249 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: let's also remember that, of course it's unimaginable the pain 250 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: that he goes through physically, basically from the moment he's arrested, 251 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: they already start doing so many horrible things to him 252 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: up to the moment of his death on the cross, 253 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: and so his physical pain was something that we can't 254 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: even imagine. But then we also have to remember the 255 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: other part, which perhaps it was definitely more painful for him, 256 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: which the fact that at that moment, when his passion 257 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: begins in the agony of the garden, he takes on 258 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: the sins of the world. He comes and he is crucified, 259 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: and he's taking on our sins, all of the sins 260 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: of humanity. We have to remember that it's the humanity 261 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: of everyone that has existed before that and will exist 262 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: from that moment on. It's calculated. I believe that there's 263 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: been around one twenty billion souls so far that have 264 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: passed through earth, and we don't know how many billions 265 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: more are going to be left till the end of time. 266 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: And if we all know the hurt that it comes 267 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: from when we make a mistake, when we sin, when 268 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,479 Speaker 1: we offend, when we harm others, and we know how 269 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: how much that hurts our heart, our conscience, our soul, 270 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: only the son of God could have carried the sins 271 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: of the entire human race. So Jesus was physically burdened 272 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: in such a way that we can't even imagine. But 273 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: the spiritual pain and sorrow that he carried in his 274 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: soul is something that only he could have done. And 275 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: all that together is what his passion is, and it's 276 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: something that only Jesus Christ himself would have endured. You 277 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: make a point I'd never quite thought about the way 278 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: you said it, which is when he descends into death, 279 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 1: the greatest pain isn't physical. The greatest pain is all 280 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: of the sins of the human race that he is 281 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: taking with him. And that's what makes it so unimaginable 282 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: that anyone other than God could have done this exactly. 283 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: But there's something beautiful too though. I actually read this 284 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: in Father Michael Gailey's book Consoling in the Heart of Jesus. 285 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful reminder though that in the same way that, 286 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: of course our sins affect him in giving sorrow at 287 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: the moment of his passion. All so our love and 288 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: our devotion that we give him now it's a consolation 289 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: to him at the moment of his passion. And it 290 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: sounds something that for someone that doesn't believe, almost like 291 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: science fiction. How can what I'm doing now affecting two 292 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: thousand years ago? But we're talking about God here, for 293 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: all things are possible, and He already knew and loved us, 294 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: even if we didn't exist yet. And we see that 295 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: described in the novena that we begin on Good Friday, 296 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: and then and in the Divine Mercy for Divine Mercy Sunday, 297 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: the second Sunday of Easter. If we pay attention to 298 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: the novena, which of course he basically words that he 299 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: himself said to Saint Faustina. I'm phrasing here, but he's like, today, 300 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 1: I want you to bring me the devout they consoled 301 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: me during my passion. It was them that I was 302 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: thinking of today, he says, I want you to bring 303 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: me priests and religious and it was them that gave 304 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: me courage to continue another day, he says today, I 305 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: want you to bring me repentant sinners. It wasn't for 306 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: them that I did it. So what we do now, 307 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: the way that we love him now, consoles him retroactively 308 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: two thousand years ago. It's a very powerful thing that 309 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: it takes faith. But we know that this is the 310 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: greatest pivotal point of our history of salivation, and it's 311 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: extremely powerful everything that will happen, including our own individual 312 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: relationship with him in his passion. I'm always fascinated by 313 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: the speed with which Christianity spread in that first one 314 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: hundred or one hundred and fifty years, and how it 315 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: went all over the region. How did the early Church 316 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: experience Easter, and to what extent did they already understand 317 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: that it was the highest holiday of this religion. Well, 318 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: one of the greatest proofs of the resurrection is what 319 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: happened in the early Church. What happened to the apostles themselves. 320 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: Let's not forget that the apostles were filled with fear. 321 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: Except for John. They all fled, and they were all hiding, 322 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: and they didn't know what was next, and they hadn't 323 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: really understood, and they thought that the whole thing had 324 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: been a failure. With the crucifixion, Jesus resurrects, rises from 325 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: the dead, he appears to them, and he comes to 326 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: them where they are hiding. He comes to them throughout 327 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: the Easter season, and all of a sudden they are transformed. 328 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: And of course they received the fullness of understanding of 329 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: what had just happened on Pentecost after his ascension, but 330 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: with Easter, when they saw their risk in Christ, they 331 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: knew that this was the greatest thing that has ever 332 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: happened and will ever happened in humanity, in our relationship 333 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: with God. And so their change of attitude and their 334 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: change of faith, basically from Good Friday to Easter Sunday, 335 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: is one of the greatest signs of the resurrection. And 336 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: it's a fact that then, of course, after they went 337 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: through all of the corners of the world, they were 338 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: coming with this message that was of course going to 339 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: affect people, because when we hear truth, we can recognize it, 340 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: and when we see someone passionate about something as big 341 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: as this, of course it's going to attract others to 342 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: what's happening to this person. Something had to have happened 343 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: for that person to be so on fire with the faith. 344 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: And of course it was the resurrected Jesus Christ that 345 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: conquered death and sin, and therefore Christianity spread all over. 346 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: And let's not forget here that they all lost their lives, 347 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: they were all martyred for this, they had nothing to gain. 348 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: They actually had to leave their homes, they had to 349 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: leave their comforts, they had to go to distant countries 350 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: and distant lands where they were persecuted and imprisoned, and 351 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: so many things that happened to them to spread the gospel. 352 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: It was definitely not something that they would in any 353 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: way for their own personal gain. This was something that 354 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: they were doing because they had to spread the good 355 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: news wherever they want. Of course, we celebrate the entire 356 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: life of Christ, beginning with his birth throughout his ministry. 357 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: But nothing makes sense without Easter Sunday. If Good Friday 358 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: would have been the end of the story, we wouldn't 359 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: be here talking about Jesus right now. Easter Sunday is 360 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: when everything came together. It's also exciting that we all 361 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: have a part to do in spreading the good news 362 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: of Easter. In a sense, that is what Christ is 363 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: asking of us, Miss partner, Why I was so glad 364 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: to have you take some time out in this extraordinary 365 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: busy week because I wanted to literally share the good 366 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: news and remind people that Easter is about vastly more 367 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: than Easter eggs and chocolate bunnies and what have you. 368 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: It's sort of the pivotal moment of human history. It is. 369 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: And someone can say, well, it's not like now it's 370 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: all good news, and now it's all a world of 371 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: just light and peace and joy. It's not. We know 372 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: that in this world because we also remember that Good 373 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: Friday and Easter Sunday are always going to be linked together. 374 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: But when we go through the good Fridays in life, 375 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: whether it be globally like when we see the tragedies 376 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: of war, or when we go through our own individual software, 377 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: Easter always reminds us that the end is never Good Friday, 378 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: that everything gets fulfilled with Easter Sunday, and they will 379 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: always be together. So one of the things that I 380 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: think is fascinating, and that is that Good Friday is 381 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: a solemn celebration, but not a mass. Why is that? 382 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: How did that tradition emerge. It's the only day of 383 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: the year where there is in a mass because it's 384 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: a reminder that that day he's dying on the cross, 385 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: and then he's in the tomb. So we don't celebrate 386 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: the Mass because basically we are commemorating the fact that 387 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: he has died for us, that he is in the tomb. 388 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: And so that is why the church is in silence, 389 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: in darkness, because it's a time in which he is 390 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: in the tomb, until, of course, the East season officially 391 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: begins the Easter vigil during the Gloria close to of course, 392 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: we were in Rome for three and a half years 393 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: where she was the ambassador to the Vatican, and we 394 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: have visited Jerusalem a number of times in other parts 395 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 1: of the Holy Land. I think that the degree to 396 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: which you are uplifted and sort of amazed and the 397 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: reality is driven home if you can spend a week 398 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: or two weeks in the Holy Land, is just astonishing 399 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: to walk where Christ walked, to see literally the places 400 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: where he preached, and then to see where he went 401 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: from the trial to the crucifixion and then to the 402 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: empty tomb. Have you had sort of the same experience 403 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: that when you're actually there that it's almost overwhelming. It is, 404 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: it's the most powerful place. People always say it does 405 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: change the Gospels in the sense that you finally really 406 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: understand them, and it's true, and you see the reality 407 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: of all this. You see the Sea of Galilee where 408 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: he walked on water, where he preached, around the villages 409 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: around the lake, you see where he was born in Bethlehem. 410 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: You see where everything happened, and the power there. It's 411 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: unexplainable with words that you're feel in your hearts when 412 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: you are in these extremely powerful places where all of 413 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: the history of salvation happened. And it's definitely should be 414 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: priority for all of us to visit the Holy Land. 415 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 1: And even if we can't travel at this point, remember 416 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: that we have to take advantage of you know now 417 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: that we have, for example, so many ways to see 418 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: this different channels. We can take tours of the Holy Land. 419 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: Even that's worth it because we see it, and that 420 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: in itself is a good way to really learn about 421 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 1: how all the different aspects of Christ's life is celebrated there. Yeah, 422 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: and it really brings it to life. And suddenly you realize, 423 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: you know that this extraordinary miracle. This person came to earth, 424 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: walked among us as a normal, everyday person, and ultimately 425 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: took upon himself all of the sins of the human race. 426 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: This remarkable, You know, I do want to say for myself, 427 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: I want to thank you. I realize, given the scale 428 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: of the church that you are the rector of the 429 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: number of things you'll be doing this week. It is 430 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 1: extraordinarily generous of you to spend some time talking with 431 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: us this morning. And I hearge all of our listeners 432 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: when you are in New York. That's one of the 433 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: most amazing places to go to Saint Patrick, and I 434 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: see it. It's one of the great landmarks in American history, 435 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: one of the great centers of worship, and just wonderful 436 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: that as the rector, you would spend this kind of 437 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: time with us. And I thank you, and I wish 438 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: you a really happy Easter Sunday, you too. Many blessings 439 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: to you and Alis Die into your whole family. Many 440 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: blessings to all your viewers. And it may this be 441 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: truly a time of joy of new life, especially Die 442 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: in this time of darkness that we are facing in 443 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: the world, that we may always be out God's lights. 444 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: So many blessings to you and thank you for this opportunity. 445 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: Thank you to my guest father, Enrique Salvo. You can 446 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: read more about the meaning and history of Easter on 447 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: our showpage at newtsworld dot com. Newtsworld is produced by 448 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: Gingwich three sixty and iHeartMedia. 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