1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Let's take a closer look at this market action with 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: our guest Fun Chu Kuan h c I O at 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: HSBC Global Private Banking and Wealth, joining us from our 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: studios in Hong Kong. MS, Fun, thank you so much 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: for being with us. So let's begin with the delay 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: of the publication on third quarter GDP. Are we to 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: read into this that the number was not going to 8 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: look so rosy for the for the mainline economy? I 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: think the delay of the Chinese GDP data UM should 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: be more related to them ongoing twenty National Party Congress UM, 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: and I think the market have actually expected UM quite 12 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: a tough que free economic performance as we continue to 13 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: see the COVID disruption to get with the property market slum. 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: So that would be reflected in the Q free GDP 15 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: numbers and the September economic indicators we've seen China junk 16 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: doll le bond's dropped to a record low because the 17 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: property crisis is really just again a concern about the 18 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: successive borrowing. When do we see some really strong policy 19 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: steps for the property sector. I think more a comprehensive 20 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: and decisive policy actions to reverse the downturn of the 21 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: property sector will likely come out UM after the Party Congress, 22 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: but I think more visible policy actions would need to 23 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: be UM formulated and finalized when we have the Central 24 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: Economic Work Conference in December, because that would be an 25 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: annual policy setting working conference to formulate UM a specific 26 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: policy action. But we have already seen the local government 27 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: authorities of rolling out more UH property markets abilizing measures, 28 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: but I think this is not yet sufficient to reverse 29 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 1: the dwnturn as reflected by them UH substantial year on 30 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: year decline in property sells UM so a more comprehensive 31 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: policy support package is still needed to contain the spill 32 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: over effect from the property market weakness. So we think 33 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: UM the Central Economic Work Conference would need to UM 34 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: formulate a set of defective policy actions are not just 35 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: focusing on the completion of unfinished proputy project but also 36 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: address the liquidity crunch of the developers. UM So, we 37 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: we do expect the government to UM to roll out 38 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: UM more substantial stimulus action because this would how key 39 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: for the growth recovery outlook in twenty twenty three. I 40 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: just wanted to get your your out of you as 41 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: well on where you're seeing the right place to allocate 42 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: at the moment because the people that we surveyed expect 43 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: that the U s economy will emerge a winner from 44 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: the downturn. And you're bullish on the US dollar and 45 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: overweight US equity, So assuming you feel the same here, Yeah, 46 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: we currently have a mild underweight allocation to global equities, 47 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: and with seeing our equity universe, we have the biggest 48 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: tactical overweights on US equities because we believe the US 49 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: economy will remain relatively resilient to recession risks as compared 50 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: with other developed economy, especially the the US, SONG and 51 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: the UK that we expect would be heading into recession 52 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter UH and looking at the ongoing 53 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: reporting season, we continue to see underlying fundamental strength in 54 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: US corporate earnings performance are as indicated by the strong 55 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: bank so out release in recent days. So these also 56 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: reflect um. The US equity market will likely be back 57 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: to position to whether the infration and policy tightening risks 58 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: givens the strong support by a healthy labor market, so 59 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: consumer spending out also be ming um resilient. When it 60 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: comes to the outlook for the Chinese economy, let's go 61 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: back to the other day when President She opened the 62 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: party Congress with that speech, and one of the things 63 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: that one of the words that I heard repeated was creativity, 64 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: and I linked that to the idea of innovation and 65 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: becoming a little bit more self sufficient, especially where high 66 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: technology is concerned. And we know now in terms of 67 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: US China attention, one of the hot button issues is 68 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: advanced semiconductor technology. So if the US holds this line 69 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: firm and China does not have access to that leading 70 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: edge technology, to what extent is the economic picture going 71 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: to change? How is high tech in China going to 72 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: be held back? Yeah. In the opening speech UM that 73 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: President She delivered at the Party Congress, he actually attached 74 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: quates a strong strategic focus on technological innovation UM and 75 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: and this reflect continuous strong government policy support will be 76 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: given to the advanced technology sector UH givens them UM 77 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: the geo political tensions that Beijing currently face UH in 78 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: regard to the latest US cheap export band UH and 79 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: this will remain a key head winds UH. And this 80 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: would also accelerate UM THEM localization program in terms of 81 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: development development of them UH core technology and and key 82 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: capability as on homegrown UH technology capability and and we 83 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: also expect China would try to seek UH collaboration with 84 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: UM potential developed market partner in Europe, Japan and Asia. UM. 85 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: So this is going to be a key strategic focus 86 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: of Beijing. UH to enhance is tech capability in order 87 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: to fulfill UH is UM objective goal of technology upgrading, 88 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: especially in advanced manufacturing. What did you read into the 89 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: p bs S polls on the MLF yesterday. Does that 90 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: mean we don't really see any moves again until next year? 91 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: I think with the policy divergence between UM, the US 92 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: and China giffens UM, the federal reserve is still staying 93 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: on a hockish policy tightening path. So this would actually 94 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: constrain the room for the PBOC to cut interest rate, 95 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: and we believe UM the p BBC will likely UM. 96 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: I thought our the monetary yeasing means are including liquidity 97 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: support and potential reserve requirement racial cut rather than direct 98 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: policy rate cut. Alright, always a pleasure, Thank you IF 99 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: and Chuckwan is ah C I O at hs b 100 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: C Global Private Banking and Wealth in our Hong Kong studio. 101 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg