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Speaker 1: Not welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Does anybody in here have a problem that I'm the

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Speaker 1: The goal of you to think that you are observing

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Speaker 3: I am to think that I have to come to

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Speaker 4: He can't sue.

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Speaker 2: He can't sue us, It's impossible. He he knows the

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Speaker 2: They know that Maw has never sat down and you know,

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Speaker 4: It's definitely not somebody that I looked at as a friend, like.

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Speaker 3: Though, to my very next statement, Maul, not only did

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Speaker 3: In the moment one of our contract year one of

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Speaker 1: Gentlemen, how long do you think it took them.

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Speaker 4: You know, just finally tapped in with you.

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Speaker 2: Man, got a chance to come down here to Atlanta,

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Speaker 2: So you know, Rory and myself knew Rory podcast. Shout

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Speaker 2: Right, So yeah, we building, man, We all having fun

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Speaker 2: They've known me for at least twelve years. They know

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Speaker 1: Right, do you think you hurt Joe Budden? Do you

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Speaker 4: You know it?

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Speaker 1: I never remember I never saw saw the day. Yeah,

437
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 1: but he was talking about you. Yeah he would. I'm

438
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 1: telling you man something about you.

439
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, stunging.

440
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 2: Well, you know, we have a we had a relationship

441
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 2: for so many years, and and the dude's a white boy.

442
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 2: But this principal, it's all it is with me. I

443
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,920
Speaker 2: don't care how long I know you, I don't care.

444
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 2: You know, it's principle. It's integrity, is it's honor, you

445
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So it's like right as right,

446
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 2: wrong as wrong. And I'm not gonna stand there and

447
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 2: allow somebody that because I looked at it like we're

448
00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 2: a team. We all in this boat together, you know

449
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 2: what I mean, We stay on that stage together.

450
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 1: So but there's so many niggas that were the road

451
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 1: with the nigga they knew for ten fifteen years only

452
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 1: because it's like what do I got to lose?

453
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 4: Well, that's the sea. But that and again that's the

454
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 4: problem with us as is it's like this and.

455
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, salute from one real nigga to another

456
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 1: one even there everything else I the winder. Just I'm

457
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,400
Speaker 1: saying that looked like from my perspective, is principle involved

458
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:23,639
Speaker 1: in that?

459
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 4: Absolutely?

460
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 1: Because it's my guy right here, I'm man, I was

461
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 1: with this guy when he will raggly ragging. Man I'm

462
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 1: talking about man. If you go back and say, I

463
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 1: ain't never been raging. I come out of the street

464
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 1: with some money. You understand, no cap on that, no

465
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: ten on it. You go back some you say, damn

466
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 1: home was kind of it seemed fun over there a

467
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 1: little bit financially, and that's cool because we all had

468
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 1: to come from something. But y'all help lift that. How

469
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: much weight do you think you lifted over therered out

470
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the lifting with the Joe Budden

471
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 1: podcast up into your departure. How much do you say

472
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:00,640
Speaker 1: was your contribution?

473
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I think I contributed a lot. I think

474
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 2: I lifted a lot. You go back to some of

475
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 2: the earlier episodes. I think that's when it started to

476
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 2: turn just because I think the personality, my personality, uh,

477
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 2: and my relationship with Joe was so unique and so honest,

478
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 2: and you know, I think that that helped turn it

479
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 2: into what it became. Even if you go back to

480
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: the Charlemagne episode, Charlemagne said it. He said, you know,

481
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 2: this thing didn't really pop until mag got it.

482
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a squashit with you as Charlamagne. Man,

483
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 1: I know y'all got a little bit that he been.

484
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 1: He done right. He doing right by me, man.

485
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 2: Charlemagne, Listen, I know he does. He does things behind

486
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 2: the scenes for people that you know, I salute and

487
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 2: I respect. I just didn't, you know, let me finish

488
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 2: the point though getting to that. So yeah, I just

489
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 2: think that the relationship that we had with each other,

490
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 2: because I still don't really like saying his name, but

491
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,479
Speaker 2: the relationship that we had with each other, I think

492
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 2: it was so honest and so real and it was

493
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 2: dope to see and so many people could relate to it.

494
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 2: I think that helped lift it. With him and Rory

495
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 2: and chouldt to Maurita, what they had I think was

496
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 2: unique as well. I just think that, you know, you

497
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 2: insert somebody that had a real relationship, the relationship that

498
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 2: we had with each other, and you put that on

499
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 2: mic and on camera. I think people gravitate towards that

500
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 2: the stories to you know, holding each other.

501
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: And he was intentional with I'll give him some credit

502
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: on this. He was intentional with the consumer facing when

503
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: it comes to you, right, he was intentional with saying, man,

504
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 1: you're just too cool, man, you dress better than me. Man,

505
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: he was intentional on camera with that. He's smart enough

506
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: to know what he's doing when he's doing. Now, what

507
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 1: he doesn't say says more to me about him than

508
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: what he does say on camera. Right, So he's somebody

509
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: that's intentional with doing that, and I'll give him a

510
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: little credit with trying to have the consumers accept you

511
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 1: in a way where it's like this is my cool potnum.

512
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

513
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: And it even translated to someone like a Charlemagne. It

514
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,719
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, mal is that nigga too?

515
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 5: Now?

516
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: Even though you that nigga, he was putting something on it.

517
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, and and and I you know, and and

518
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 2: again it it was all it made for what it

519
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 2: became exactly like it was all part of it was

520
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 2: a beautiful thing. I just think that ultimately, which happens

521
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 2: a lot in our community and on our culture, ego

522
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 2: just killed and destroyed. And it you know, it kills

523
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: from within, it destroys from within. And you know that's

524
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 2: a fight that I can't stand in front of. Ego

525
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 2: is something that you gotta battle with personally. So I

526
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 2: just step out the way and I let you, you know,

527
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 2: have that battle with yourself, right, you know, even.

528
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: Speaking about the lifting thing, there was a moment do

529
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 1: you remember when he got fired from Everyday Struggle?

530
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 4: Yeah?

531
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: What was the atmosphere? Do you remember the atmosphere? Then?

532
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 2: Vaguely I remember, And again that's interesting because we only

533
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 2: got his side of the story, but I vaguely remember

534
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: how he came in and was like, you know, we

535
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: started talking about it on the show, like you know,

536
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 2: they they wouldn't let the creators create, and you know,

537
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: they won't let me smoke in the bathroom, and it

538
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 2: was just a whole bunch and I was just like, okay, whatever,

539
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, that wasn't my business.

540
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: And you know, me no understanding the information. And I

541
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: want the young creators and everybody watching this if you

542
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: know my brain, if you hear and you don't know

543
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: my brain. Were about information, right, We're about elevation. Anything

544
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: we speak about we extract and experience from things that

545
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: we can explain so people can evolve. That's all this

546
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: is about.

547
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 4: Right.

548
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 1: But with the Everyday Struggle situation, y'all gave him a blanket.

549
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: I know, you you know, let him go on his rants.

550
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: He was talking and all of that, but it was

551
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 1: a situation where he needed y'all more than he can

552
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: explain in that moment. At that point, he had just

553
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: had a baby. He had just had this situation where

554
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 1: he he was getting further in the building, and then

555
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: all of a sudden he thought he had leverage. And

556
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: that's something that happens with him. For some reason, he

557
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: missed places where he think his leverage is. Not that

558
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: he doesn't have leverage, there's just something happening with his

559
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: idea of leverage. I don't when he goes to try

560
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: to utilize what he think his leverage is, there's something happening, right,

561
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: And so with complex they let him go, you know

562
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: whatever in receipt of your email, because I've been looking

563
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: at some of the shit knowing that we were gonna

564
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: sit down, and when he came and sat down with y'all,

565
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: that was home. He still had that. And I continue

566
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: to let people know that it's hard to do a

567
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: podcast by yourself. It's damnar impossible. And if it was possible,

568
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: I think that he would have done it by himself.

569
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: By now. He had y'all to lean on in that moment,

570
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,959
Speaker 1: and in my opinion, I just wanted I wonder did

571
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: y'all know how important y'all were to him in that

572
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: moment for him to be able to land right there

573
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: with his two homeboys, comfortable way has conversations week after

574
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: week after week and be able to talk to the

575
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: fans and create the narrative that he was able to create.

576
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: I mean, we thought we were pretty important, but now

577
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: you listen to the things that he says now about us,

578
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: we weren't that important, so you know, I mean again, man,

579
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: you know, we just try to play our part. And

580
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: as far as being friends in that moment, like you know,

581
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: it started the whole podcasting thing for us. Again, it

582
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: started as therapy. It was therapeutic for us to get

583
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 2: to get together once and twice a week and just

584
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: kick it and talk about shit.

585
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: You know.

586
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 2: But when money comes into play, man, it changes, you know,

587
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,959
Speaker 2: so many things. It's amazing how many things and emotions

588
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 2: just change and sway because money is on the table now.

589
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 4: But for me, it didn't. You know, obviously I didn't

590
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 4: care about money. It was all about just the principles

591
00:27:59,520 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 4: and in tech.

592
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: And you know, people see, oh, if it wasn't about

593
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 2: the money, then why you keep asking to see the

594
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 2: counting and it's like because we're trying to just show,

595
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 2: like fam, we know we were being stolen from and

596
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: this is why we chose to say, Yo, just show

597
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: the accountant.

598
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,719
Speaker 4: Let's make it correct and move forward, right.

599
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: And I want people to understand that if Joe was

600
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: to sue, he would expose what needs to be like

601
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 1: that would force a discovery, yeah, which the accountant would

602
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: have to come into play.

603
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean he know he he can't sue.

604
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: He can't sue us, It's impossible. He he knows the

605
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: real and the people, the people that know him know

606
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 2: the real They know his business practices throughout the years.

607
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: They know that Maul has never sat down and you know,

608
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: sat on the mic and talked bad about anybody, you

609
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's definitely not somebody that I

610
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: looked at as a friend, Like I hate that you

611
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: google my name and it come that type of shit

612
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: comes up, you know what I mean. I don't, I don't.

613
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: I never want to be a party shit like that.

614
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: But we know that, you know, we built something that

615
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: was big in the culture, and you know it it

616
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: ended the way it did.

617
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 4: But like I said, it was a.

618
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: Fortunate situation for Rory and myself because we landed inwnership.

619
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 4: And and just you know, just respect.

620
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 2: It's so it's just so much respect, you know, like, uh,

621
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: the people we work with, you know, I got editing videographer,

622
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: you know, my boss and my boys.

623
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 4: Like I'm not your boss, man, partners. I need you

624
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 4: just as much as you need me, you know what

625
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 4: I mean. Like I don't even like walking around with

626
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 4: that boss title, Like I don't, I don't.

627
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: I don't need that. Like I want everybody to feel

628
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: like they can come to me. They could talk to

629
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: me whenever they want. You have my number, You can

630
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: call me any time of the day, if you have

631
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: something on your mind, if you have something creatively you

632
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,239
Speaker 2: want to throw on the table. It doesn't matter if

633
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: you're on camera or not. If you're in this room

634
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: and you're you're a part of this, this this, this

635
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: this brain trust in this, in this you know this

636
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: this thing we building, Like your opinion matters.

637
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 4: You're in this room for a reason.

638
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 2: So I think you create that space with people in

639
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: it allows for so many more ideas and positive energy

640
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: to flow in and to feed something beautiful, you know.

641
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: What I mean? Did you did you believe at the

642
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: beginning that you had an ownership deal or a partnership.

643
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: No, we had a percentage agreement. Any money that came

644
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: in for the podcast we split.

645
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: Was that understood from the beginning or was ownership ever thought?

646
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: Did you ever think that you owned a part of

647
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: it or did you always think this was a percentage

648
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: based type of situation.

649
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 4: It was a percentage based it was It was some

650
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 4: excuse me for.

651
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: Not to cut you off. Some people try to say

652
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: that you guys thought that you owned some of it.

653
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, we knew exactly what it was.

654
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: And again that's because of the creatives of It's. It's

655
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: We had a contract in place before any money came

656
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: into play, and we and Rory myself took a very

657
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: humble percentage of very uh you know, we we we

658
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 2: understood where not you know, we don't have a name,

659
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: and we weren't artists and rappers and things like that.

660
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: So we took our very humble percentage and proceeded to

661
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 2: move forward and grow it until a deal came across

662
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: the table that you know, ultimately was signed. Again, I

663
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: just think that that money was something that you know,

664
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 2: I was never thought about coming into play, and when

665
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,479
Speaker 2: it did, I don't think that he was happy splitting

666
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: that with us the way that it was agreed upon.

667
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: So you know, it happened to fell Aparton.

668
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: It is what it is. You know, I believe Joe

669
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: can't pod in the same way, right, I think Ish

670
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: doesn't allow Joe and I have a relationship with is

671
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,479
Speaker 1: shut out the Ish, right, got a relationship with him

672
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: over there. He reaches out to me, we speak sometimes,

673
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: But I don't believe he can pod in the same way.

674
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: I think. I think Ish kind of doesn't give him

675
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: the isolation type of vibe that you guys gave, right.

676
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: I think you guys understand podcasts, especially the way that

677
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: he podcasts, not necessarily that everything he says is going

678
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: to be the truth. Sometimes he's getting into a theatric

679
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: bag and he's doing this little one too. Now, you

680
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: did say that when he got into some of them conversations,

681
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: you guys were sitting back, like, hold on, we've been

682
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: on you about some of these things that you explained

683
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: into the public.

684
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, see it it was so many things. Like a

685
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: lot of people think that that just happened. When it happened,

686
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: and that was years that was years of us trying

687
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: to That was like a year and a half almost

688
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: two years of us trying to get that right and

689
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: get the business right. So you know, when those rants

690
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: were happening, you go back and look at some of

691
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: those and you know, I'm sitting there being quiet because

692
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, people were always telling themselves, right,

693
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: you let them talk. Yeah, So I did a lot

694
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: of listening, and you know, and we were careful because

695
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: we were creating, or what we thought was we were

696
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: creating was something that was built on honor and principle

697
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: and to know what we were dealing with internally, we

698
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: thought that if the public found out, it's like, well, wait,

699
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: how y'all sitting here preaching about you know, honor and

700
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: respect and keeping it real and not you know, getting

701
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 2: you fucked off and we and now we're going through

702
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: the bullshit. So it was hard to kind of sit

703
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: here and you know, but just like, okay, you know,

704
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: just let the rent happen and you know, whatever whatever,

705
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 2: for the sake of the message getting out there and

706
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: you know, the people receiving the message. And we didn't

707
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: want to put our personal thing in the way of that.

708
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 2: But that was the reason for a lot of those,

709
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 2: you know, just let it happen. Yeah, because it was like,

710
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 2: you know, keep talking because I'm I'm also receiving information

711
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,719
Speaker 2: here too in the moment, you know what I mean.

712
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: So and this is the thing, right, I'm looking at

713
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: it and me just having supreme game. I'm sitting back

714
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: and saying, see sometimes you sometimes you cuss. You cuss

715
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: at your mother and your girlfriend here and she said,

716
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: oh my god, yeah, look I talked to his mother.

717
00:33:58,720 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

718
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: And so when you saying things like yo, I left

719
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: Complex because Spotify brought in a check and they didn't

720
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: want to give the people on the show a piece

721
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: of the check. When we're the reason Spotify brought the

722
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: check and then you got people on your show it's saying, hey,

723
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: what's going on with the check? Because Spotify? Because the

724
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: check it's the same, it's.

725
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 4: The same thing.

726
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

727
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: It's like, it's funny how you turn into the same

728
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 2: people that were talking about.

729
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: But it's almost like in his brain. And that's why

730
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: I gotta ask him. He needs some he needs some

731
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: real questions asked to him without the wiggle room.

732
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: Right, Oh, he's gonna spend he gonna try to he's

733
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: gonna try to spend, try to spend.

734
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 4: He's gonna try to spend good. He's good at spending.

735
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: He's gonna try to I think he talks to you know,

736
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 2: he has this thing where he talks to grown men,

737
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: and I think he think he talking to women that

738
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: he's dating. You know, you can spend a woman that

739
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: you date around her, but when you're talking to real dudes,

740
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 2: ain't it don't work. And that's and that's it's not

741
00:34:58,960 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: gonna work with me.

742
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: So sometimes when when you know, he would he would

743
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: get in those modes talking about that, I always looked

744
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: at y'all, let's kind of speak on academics. Do y'all

745
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: do you think that he was feeding information to act?

746
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 4: Of course, man, you know, and I don't.

747
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: I don't talk about that dude, but you know, yeah,

748
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: I just you know again, this this this this media

749
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: podcast thing is weird man, because these dudes will start

750
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: talking about you, talking crazy and you never even they don't.

751
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 4: You don't even know these dudes. That's what I'm like.

752
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, who, all right, you know what I mean,

753
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not gonna get into back and forth

754
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 2: because it's like they got too much time on it

755
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: here and I can't. I don't do that, and it's like,

756
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: you know, you, I've never seen these dudes anywhere outside,

757
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. And then they get online and then

758
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: get on their platforms and start talking crazy and it's

759
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: just like I don't even know how to do that,

760
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: Like I can't because I don't know you, you know

761
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 2: what I mean.

762
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 4: So I can't.

763
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: I can't sit on here and spew that type of

764
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: crazy talk when I've never even I don't even how

765
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 2: to do that.

766
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: It's almost like even with his situation with Rory, it's

767
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: almost like he was leaving you out of it too.

768
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: It's almost he was bringing you in it after a

769
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: certain part. But there was a moment where it's almost

770
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: like everybody was against Rory and they was trying to

771
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,479
Speaker 1: kind of leave ma all out. But Mal was looking

772
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 1: for why fuck act with what his situation is. But

773
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: to Joe thing, you were trying to understand why is

774
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: you what's happening? And then, like you said, we both

775
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: on the same side creatively to try to say you

776
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: already get the big piece of chicken.

777
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 4: Yeah we partners. Man.

778
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: You know you can't tell your partner against partners. We

779
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 2: don't work for nobody wearing employees. We were business partners.

780
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: We have a contract agreement, we have a percentage based agreement.

781
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: We were partners.

782
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: So it's like, you tell your partner don't come to work,

783
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 2: you at least got to consult with the other partner first, right,

784
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: you know.

785
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 4: What I'm saying.

786
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: Like if me and you and another home he got

787
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 2: a show together, and then you text him and say

788
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: you don't come into work.

789
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 4: Me and you supposed to have that talk before you.

790
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 2: You should be like, yah, I feel like he shouldn't

791
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 2: come in for a couple of weeks, whatever it may be.

792
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: We need to have a talk first. You can't if

793
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: I view you as a partner. That's why I think

794
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: he didn't view y'all as partner.

795
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 4: Of course he didn't. It's his name is the podcast.

796
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: When he changed the name, what was y'all thinking?

797
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 4: Then we knew what it was.

798
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: That was deep, That was ego.

799
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying, And you know what, people

800
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: got to rewind the tapes and go back and look

801
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: at the film.

802
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 4: It's ego.

803
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: But even in the midst of that, we weren't tripping

804
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: because we had this contract in place, and we're like,

805
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: all right, it don't matter. You can call it whatever

806
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: you want. Right, this contract is in place, and whatever

807
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 2: money comes in, this is the percentage that I get.

808
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 2: This is the percentage that he gets. So you can

809
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 2: call it whatever you want. You can dress it up

810
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 2: however you want to dress it up. It doesn't matter

811
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: to us. Whatever comes across that table. This is my cut,

812
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: this is his cut.

813
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 4: That's your cut. You understand what I'm saying. And that's

814
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 4: how we rolled and move forward.

815
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: But you know, when you start realizing that everything is

816
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: starting to look like a salary, it's like, oh.

817
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I don't know salary, all right? They keeping

818
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: you at the same number. And then okay, so I

819
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: see what you said, because he's always saying that, yo,

820
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: I paid them this number even though the company didn't

821
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: earn that number, but I kept that number there because

822
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: I pulled money from here, there, and everywhere to keep

823
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: that number. That y'all saying, now you slick put us

824
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: on a salary.

825
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: It's a salary, bro, Like, come on, we're not doing that.

826
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: That's a good game salary, like I'm not and again

827
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 2: a good game.

828
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: No, he tried it. That's a good game, but.

829
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: It's like it's not gonna work with Like, I'm chill,

830
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: I'm cool, laid back, notionally, I'm not stupid, though I

831
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: didn't peep that. I'm gonna watch you. I'm going I'm

832
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,959
Speaker 2: very observing. I see everything. You know, we just sold

833
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 2: sixteen hundred tickets and I'm getting the same as we

834
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: sell eight hundred tickets.

835
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: That's a salary home, Yeah, its definitely what it sounds salary.

836
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 2: Then and then when we again, there was so many

837
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 2: conversations of us trying to make get right because.

838
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 4: We knew what we had, we knew what we were building.

839
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: And you know, I remember one conversation we had and

840
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: you know, he looked at me and Rory and he's

841
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: outside talking and we got into it one day. He

842
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, you know, after this contract is up,

843
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put you out on the salary. And me

844
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: and Roy looked at each other, like, who you talking to?

845
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 2: Put who on the salary? But that's what he always wanted,

846
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: which is what he has now. You know, you're now

847
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: now and they doing more work. I mean, I love parks, man,

848
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: you know, I mean I love parks you know, and

849
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: it's just you know, have.

850
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: You watched the show, no at all? Nah, have you

851
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: seen any clips?

852
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 4: Only when they're talking about me, only when he has

853
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 4: something to say about.

854
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: It, right right, and they don't usually talking. Man, you

855
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: do see it is kind of pushed back, like just

856
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: show the numbers.

857
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: Listen, man, it knows like and that's my thing, man,

858
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 2: you know, and I don't. I don't want to, you know,

859
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 2: I don't want to disrupt anything that got over there.

860
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 2: But you know the people going to see eventually, and

861
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 2: you know, it's just you know, it's just fucked up, man,

862
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 2: because you know, I know those guys feel like like

863
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: they can't you know, kick it with me. You know

864
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: they I saw ice them following me on social media

865
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: like that because you know.

866
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, I get it.

867
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: Man, listen, he being he being lowyer to the big

868
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: home man.

869
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 4: You know, I listen. I'm not I'm not mad at it.

870
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 3: Man.

871
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 2: It's just you know, they know the real and that's

872
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: the thing that you know, you know, aside from a podcast,

873
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: and you know, now people watching you and following on

874
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 2: social media, I'm talking about let's you know, go back

875
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: to them days in jersey go back to them. You know,

876
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: they know me and they know him, and they know

877
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: the things they've been through with him. None of them

878
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: never been through nothing with me. Fucked up ship, so

879
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: right right, like we ain't gotta I ain't gotta do that,

880
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: like you know, it's it just is what it is.

881
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 2: And like I said, you know, I think him for

882
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: doing that. I thank him for you know, fucking us.

883
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: Over and doing make us go get our own jersey.

884
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 4: Man, oh man, it was beautiful, like you know, he

885
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 4: he it was. You know, it was a hat trick,

886
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

887
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: Like I respect it. You know.

888
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, you did what you had to do,

889
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 2: and that was part of the story and part of

890
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 2: the journey. Like every nothing, nothing is an accident.

891
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 4: You know.

892
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 2: Everything has its has its meaning, everything has its purpose.

893
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 2: So you know, I look at that now and I'm like,

894
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: oh shit, if you don't do that, I don't have

895
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 2: my own jersey. Yeah you made me go by the team. Yeah,

896
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 2: And like I said, I was happy setting the screen.

897
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 2: I knew I could get thirty. If I want to

898
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: go get thirty, I knew I could go get there.

899
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 2: I could go get thirty. But if you if you hot,

900
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 2: I'm feeling you because I don't. It's no ego and.

901
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 4: Play with me.

902
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 2: We get the w when we go in the locker room.

903
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: That's all I give a fuck about. I don't care

904
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 2: about all that other ship is ego ship. I always

905
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: got attention from girls, I always got respect from niggas.

906
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: I don't.

907
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: So it's it's you know, I don't. It's like, yo, listen,

908
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 2: we building something with a team. Let's be a team

909
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: for sure.

910
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: When you rewind the tape, like you say, the Patreon

911
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: deal comes to mind. Y'all had just turned down the

912
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: Spotify deal and then all of a sudden, he shows

913
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: up with a Patreon deal that has some name on

914
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: it that I don't even hear him, not mentioned anymore,

915
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: but where he had took the podcast the Patreon. You

916
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: didn't clap at that moment. There's a there's a video

917
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 1: going around when he you know, Rory, see Rory gave

918
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: into his his his feelings in that moment, just to

919
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: kind of.

920
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 4: Rory has a better poker face. Yeah, he was like,

921
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 4: now I'm happy for you, bro.

922
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: You know you were like yeah, because again, it was

923
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 2: so much shit going on behind the scenes, it was done.

924
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 4: Then, oh it was for me. For me, it was done.

925
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 4: You know when he told Rory not to come in,

926
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 4: and you know that bothered me.

927
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: Because it's like you was clean on how he looked

928
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: at it.

929
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was like, yo, but he don't work

930
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 2: for you, like we partners in it. And then, like

931
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: I said, even if you have an issue with something

932
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: Rory said or did, you should talk to me first

933
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: about it and then let's let's like all sit down together,

934
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: you know. And then when we had a talk that

935
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: we had and you know, he said the things he said,

936
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: and then you know, he told me, oh, it's none

937
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: of your it's none of your business, and it's none

938
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: of my business.

939
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 4: I paid the taxes on.

940
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: It, and at one moment I'm sitting behind the costs

941
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: and the other moment it ain't none of my business.

942
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: So it's like rough to deal with.

943
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 2: And this is what I'm saying, a lot of the

944
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: listeners they lose sight of these things because you know,

945
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: he's good at spinning and throwing things at you, and

946
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 2: you can't really keep up with everything he's saying.

947
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 4: My thing is just reminded tapes and listen.

948
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: Let's talk about their Patreon moment. Just so you're saying

949
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: you didn't kind of you understood that there was a

950
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: fifty two fake out.

951
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 4: Not only it wasn't that there was a fifty two

952
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 4: fake out.

953
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 2: It was Okay, here's another deal with more money coming

954
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: into the show, and we still don't have accounting.

955
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: That's what that was.

956
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: So when he says he showed us the accounting, it's like, yeah,

957
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: but you showed us an Excel spreadsheet that your accounting

958
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: didn't send, your manager sent, because had your accountant sent that,

959
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: your account would have lost his accountant license because there

960
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: was one hundred and forty some thousand dollars quote unquote mistake.

961
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 2: I said, who We didn't even know who that company was,

962
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: Like what company is this that we paid this money

963
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 2: out to? And his responsible or that was a mistake.

964
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: So we said, okay, one hundred and forty thousand dollars steak.

965
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: I don't know no account that makes a mistake that big,

966
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 2: But okay, corrected and sent sent back to the correct one.

967
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 4: We never got another one after that. Add like this, taxes,

968
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 4: come on, man, show the taxes.

969
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: See because like I said, you could you could play

970
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 2: games you could cook the books, yeah, easy.

971
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 4: You can't cook the expenses.

972
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: You can't do that with tax So you know, you know.

973
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 4: Again, like I said, we're not tripping because and this.

974
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: Is about the information. The reason why, the reason why

975
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: we're speaking about it is because in this space, right,

976
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: they have these percentage based deals. They have these deals

977
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: in place where you can go get a percentage base. Hey,

978
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: y'all don't own this, but every million that comes in,

979
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: we bust it down seven thousand, three hundred thousand, right,

980
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: And so we have to learn about how y'all navigated

981
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: through this, what the mistakes was, what with the ends

982
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: and outs are, and how y'all took that information to

983
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: do what it is y'all doing now, because not only

984
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: did y'all leave this situation withyall brands in y'all hand

985
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: y'all win and evolved those into the new Rory and

986
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: Mams show and took that on the Rod and brought

987
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 1: that into Skits and took that into getting the deal

988
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: with serious. And that's what I'm saying. I just want

989
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 1: the fans to know that this is never about sitting

990
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: around going into the depth.

991
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 2: I just want people to be very clear and in business, right,

992
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: you know, and I want my mistakes and my situations

993
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 2: to be somebody's learning curve and somebody's you know, elevation

994
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 2: Like okay, I can't do that. And if you know,

995
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: you and your your team or you got a crew

996
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 2: and y'all doing business together, like you know, just just

997
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: make sure everything is open on the table and everybody

998
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: has access to the to the numbers in the accounting,

999
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: you know, where they can go in and check. Cause

1000
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 2: that's what we kept fighting for. Let's just get a

1001
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 2: quick book. Unless we all have access to it, we

1002
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 2: can go in and see it whenever we want. These

1003
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: are all things that we brought to the table, and

1004
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: you know, everything was frowned upon. Everything was like nah,

1005
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: you know, it's just like but we're partners, so why

1006
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: can't we just have a quick book to where we

1007
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 2: can see the numbers.

1008
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: That's how it should be. That's how it should be.

1009
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 2: Like with me and Rory we Bro we have zero

1010
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: money issues. Like I'm talking about zero. Like it's crazy

1011
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 2: because you know, when you're in the room with somebody

1012
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: and you're in business with somebody, they'll sometimes make it

1013
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 2: seem like some things are so impossible and it's like,

1014
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: stop them.

1015
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: We got to talk about these companies because they do that.

1016
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: It's not your Listen, when people start moving like that,

1017
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 2: that's the player doing that.

1018
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: And that's that.

1019
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 4: Be very clear about that.

1020
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: Like it's because, like I said, Rory myself now being

1021
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 2: in business with each other and having our own media company.

1022
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll fly y'all, we'll pay for this, We'll do that.

1023
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 2: It's nothing, bro, It's the most It's just so simple.

1024
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 2: And we we we throw bullshit into the game and

1025
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: we create issues where there are no issues. And it's

1026
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: amazing to me the amount of things that will create

1027
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 2: and and fuck up a beautiful thing. And it's like why,

1028
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 2: And then when you see the why, you like, was

1029
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 2: it worth it?

1030
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 4: Like was that? Like I think back to where we

1031
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 4: were headed, and he.

1032
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: Would have had the thing wouldn't have happened. He would

1033
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: have had one hundred men, bro, Listen, man, that's if

1034
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: he would have been able to not only keep that

1035
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: and then do what he did with the girls. And

1036
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: because that's another thing, people that hurt him so bad.

1037
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 4: But what happened to the network.

1038
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 1: I'm just asking you what happened that hurt him so bad?

1039
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 4: Talk to talk to the people, Talk to the talk

1040
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 4: to the ladies.

1041
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 2: Talk to the ladies, asking him what happened, asking him

1042
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 2: what type of contracts he put on the table for them, because.

1043
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 4: I don't want people to think that. You know, this

1044
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 4: is the thing where I'm trying to keep this going.

1045
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm kicking with you to give information

1046
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: about all these other other creators that's coming up, Like,

1047
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 2: you know, get your business right here, keep it together

1048
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: and know what it looked like.

1049
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 1: You know what I sound like when you're getting fucked.

1050
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: Know when you win a percentage based contract but can't

1051
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: get to count, that might be something.

1052
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: It's something there. It's a reason why you're not getting out,

1053
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So that's what this is about.

1054
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 2: But you know, I think it's just man, this shit

1055
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: is for me.

1056
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: It's weird. I never hear y'all speak about why y'all

1057
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: didn't start another podcast. Now, before we go there, let's

1058
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: talk about the network. Okay, the network situation. If that

1059
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: I think that y'all leaven hurt so bad as far

1060
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: as like image wise, and far as trust and equity

1061
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: that people had in him and his whole just situation.

1062
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: You know because he was talked that creator talking. He

1063
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: was rowing people up. People thought y'all were being quiet

1064
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,720
Speaker 1: because y'all agreed. People didn't know y'all was being quiet

1065
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 1: because we asking for the things that you talking about

1066
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,959
Speaker 1: from your right. People didn't know that, and so people

1067
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: took y'all being quiet as they letting him get the

1068
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: creative talk off because he's top creator. But that wasn't

1069
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: what it was, but the fans received it that way.

1070
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 1: When he went it at Charlemagne, y'all cleared out twenty

1071
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: thirty minutes and you don't own that, and I own this,

1072
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: and you work for Iharden.

1073
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: But see that back to the Charlema thing, and that's

1074
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 2: why I had an issue. And it's again love Charlott Main.

1075
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 2: I think he's amazing in our culture, some amazing things.

1076
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 2: But the reason I had an issue with Charlemagne was

1077
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 2: because when Old Boy went up there to to promote

1078
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 2: the show that he had on Revolt at the time,

1079
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 2: they kept talking about the podcast deal like they just

1080
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 2: wanted to know how much the deal was, this, that,

1081
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 2: and the third, and Charlemagne said, oh yeah, well I

1082
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 2: think that they should have only been getting this amount.

1083
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: He said that on the show, they should only be

1084
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 2: getting this amount. You're like, he spoke on how much

1085
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: money I should be receiving. But add that to the

1086
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 2: fact that now we never got the account. So you

1087
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: see how words become powerful, especially when it becomes comes

1088
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 2: from figures in the coaches.

1089
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 1: That have a lot. Okay, okay, I get it. So

1090
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: it's like while you were that you were fighting to

1091
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: get your real worth. It's like, Homie, I'm you justifying

1092
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: daddy chumping me right, I see you're giving validation to

1093
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: somebody trying to steal.

1094
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 2: And now you're putting what you think I should. You

1095
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 2: putting what you think my price is on me, Like

1096
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 2: we're from the streets. You can't tell me what I

1097
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 2: no matter how much I buy my work from you,

1098
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 2: it don't what I sell it for it you ain't

1099
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: got nothing to do with you as long as.

1100
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: Shit.

1101
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 2: So now how you telling somebody what you think they

1102
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 2: should be given what my cut is? And then now

1103
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 2: fast forward, I can't even get accounting.

1104
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: So I'm fighting for my real value. Now then you try,

1105
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: you telling somebody that was a voice in the cold,

1106
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 1: I don't let voice. You got a company you cutting checks?

1107
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: So they said well, another bout say, y'all owner should

1108
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 1: be getting this much. So I'm justified in what I'm.

1109
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 2: And then I'm gonna go deeper than that. I don't

1110
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 2: know what you're saying behind closed doors if my name

1111
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 2: comping those rooms now, right, I don't know if my

1112
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: name they didn't know you were fighting for the man.

1113
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 2: And that's why I'm not mad at Charlamagne. But I

1114
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: felt some type of way about that because it was

1115
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 2: was like, Nigga, I'm the new dude on the block.

1116
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: You get it.

1117
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 4: I'm humble. I don't you know what I'm saying. I don't, Okay, fine.

1118
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 2: But for you to say that, first of all, you

1119
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 2: don't never speak on what you think another man should

1120
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 2: be making.

1121
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 4: Number one, let the girls do that right.

1122
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 2: Number two, It's like, I don't know if my name

1123
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 2: come up behind those doors in them buildings now in

1124
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 2: our heart and somebody say, yo, the mall dude from

1125
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: the from the podcast, Yo, what you think. I don't

1126
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 2: know what you're saying now, Yo. We think we want

1127
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: to give him a show, We think we think about

1128
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 2: give him like four million. I don't give him eight hundred.

1129
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 5: Thousand, right, Yeah, and that'll make you think that if

1130
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 5: you'll say that on Mike on the Breakfast, you'll say

1131
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 5: that behind closed doors for sure.

1132
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 4: So that's why I felt the way towards him. But

1133
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 4: you know that ship is over with man.

1134
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: I'm not Yeah, Charlemagne, like I said, Man, I know

1135
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: he's disappointed in Joe. Even when we talk about the.

1136
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 4: Was gonna happen. He said it when he was on.

1137
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: He knew y'all was gonna happen, but he didn't know

1138
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: he was gonna turn on him. See, you gotta remember

1139
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: Joe winning got Charlemagne too, he proceeds. I know how

1140
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: Joe got his audience. Some of that come from asks,

1141
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: some of that come from y'all, some of that come

1142
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: from Charlemagne. They all gave him access to the audience

1143
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 1: that he won't what it looks like giving anyone else

1144
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: access to. So when you went and got Charlemagne, you

1145
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: gotta remember the pull up happened. Who was there? You

1146
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: got Casanova. I don't hear brush say free Casanova respectfully.

1147
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: He went and got Casanova because he was into it

1148
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: with Takashi. You gotta rewind what's happening right when he

1149
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: got Casanova. Mayino. These are people who were on the

1150
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: first little pull up thing. Charlemagne was the biggest name

1151
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: right that was giving you. He was stamping you, like

1152
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: when you would do your end of the year, Charlemagne

1153
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: to come do it. This was helping your brand, bro,

1154
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: this was helping you. And I think that Charlemagne didn't

1155
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: think that. Damn, he didn't start shooting at me too.

1156
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: He knew that he'll keep fucking with Marvel, Rory, you

1157
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: your ed Gres. It's like he felt that everybody felt

1158
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: that you. He looked at you in a different light.

1159
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: He felt he felt different about.

1160
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 2: It because our relationship was different, you know what I mean,

1161
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 2: Like it was a it was a lot of years there,

1162
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: and you know he could say what do you want

1163
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: about it now? And you know certain things I'm hearing

1164
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 2: him say now, I know that he's that's just his

1165
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: way of like being all the way trying to just

1166
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 2: throw anything at the fire now and it's like, bro,

1167
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 2: none of that is gonna stick. Cut it out, you

1168
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like you can you can feel

1169
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 2: however you feel, because you know, I decided not to

1170
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: let you just shit on Rory and I called you

1171
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 2: out on your bullshit and you was wrong, and we

1172
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 2: know you were stealing, and and you're mad because I

1173
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 2: call you every time your name is brought up in

1174
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 2: my presence. Yes, he's a thief.

1175
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: You still won't say his name, man, That that says

1176
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 1: a lot.

1177
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 4: I will never say his name.

1178
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: That says a lot. Nah.

1179
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 2: But that's I'm just I'm you you hurt man. No,

1180
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 2: it's not that I'm hurt. I'm not how you won't

1181
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 2: say his name then, because I don't even want. I

1182
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 2: don't because it's not about it's about the situation. It's

1183
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 2: not about him. It's about the situation and what happened

1184
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 2: in the show and the company and everything that we had.

1185
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 4: But it's not about him. I don't have. It's no beef,

1186
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 4: it's none of that. I don't.

1187
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: It's what I'm saying, disappointment. That was your guy. I

1188
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: thought you had love for that.

1189
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for sure.

1190
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah that I've been locked up with that nigga. So

1191
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: it was love then, look what happened.

1192
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 4: But that's what I'm saying. But it was only love

1193
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 4: on one side.

1194
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: It's fucked up. It was love for me.

1195
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: Anytime, anytime anybody you know has a relationship with me,

1196
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 2: I have a relationship with somebody like you know, you

1197
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 2: see you look around me. I got a lot of

1198
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: dudes that I've known since I was nine, ten eleven

1199
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 2: years old still around me to this day because I'm

1200
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: the same person I've been my entire life, Like I've

1201
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: always shown love, always shown respect, you know what I'm saying,

1202
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: Always kept in a hunting with niggas. Like if you

1203
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 2: see niggas that and I'm no longer fuck with them,

1204
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 2: and you you find out what happened. It's not me, Homie,

1205
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 2: I don't know what you battling. In turn, like I

1206
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 2: said with Homie, I know it's an ego thing. He

1207
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 2: always wanted to be that guy. And that's why I

1208
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 2: respectfully just moved out the way and let him have it.

1209
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 4: I'm not going to.

1210
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: Believe if he always wanted to be that guy, for sure,

1211
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: most rappers want to be that guy for sure.

1212
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 2: And that's that's why I said, And that's that's fine.

1213
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get in the way of what you

1214
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 2: see for yourself. If you feel like I'm in the

1215
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 2: way of that, I'll step out the way.

1216
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 4: Homie. I'll let you have it.

1217
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna argue with you. I'm not gonna battle you.

1218
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go to court and try to sue

1219
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 2: you and unders and if you and this is another thing,

1220
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: rewind the tape, he set.

1221
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: Out his mouth. If we try to start the show

1222
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: south Yard, yeah, I remember that.

1223
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So you gotta these are

1224
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 4: the things that you know.

1225
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 2: I'm just like, you know, the listeners and the supporters

1226
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 2: are very they they lose sight of a lot of things.

1227
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 4: But it's like just rewinded tapes.

1228
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: I can imagine y'all being disappointed. If you're asking for accounting,

1229
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: then cash up, Logo pops up, then the network pops up,

1230
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: then Spotify. Thing you know is already happened.

1231
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 2: But in his mind, they only wanted to do a

1232
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 2: deal with him. Well, I'm a partner, he didn't feel like.

1233
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 2: He didn't feel like it was because of the podcast.

1234
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: It's the same fight he was saving a complex.

1235
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 2: It's the same fight he was having with Shady and

1236
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 2: the slaughter House group. He asked, He asked pauling them

1237
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 2: for accounting.

1238
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: So I don't understand it.

1239
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 4: I know you thought you're not.

1240
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: You're not gonna understand it because it's gonna the gold

1241
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 2: Post is gonna move when it has to do with

1242
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 2: him and and him having it having to show his character.

1243
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: Did the network start while y'all were y'all were still there, right, Yes, yeah,

1244
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: y'all catwork. The network was y'all show.

1245
00:57:51,400 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 2: The network is literally just his YouTube channel. It's serious, bro,

1246
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 2: The network is literally because again a lot of people

1247
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 2: didn't know.

1248
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: We didn't. So what about the funding of the other shows?

1249
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: When he paid you know, shout out Karen? He paid Karen,

1250
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: when he paid Mandy?

1251
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 4: Did he pay it where you Where do you think

1252
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 4: that money came from?

1253
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: And I know, but did he pay him?

1254
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1255
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: Okay, but you're saying that the podcast was the network.

1256
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 4: It was the anchor. If it's no, if there's no podcast,

1257
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:26,919
Speaker 4: there's no none of the other ship.

1258
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: No, for sure, it was the anchor. We definitely came do.

1259
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 2: So this is what I'm trying to say, is you

1260
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 2: know the networking or it's just a YouTube channel, homie

1261
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 2: that was built off of the podcast. But in his mind,

1262
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 2: because he had that YouTube channel, since he had his

1263
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 2: videos up there, that's why he didn't want to pay

1264
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 2: us on the YouTube.

1265
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: That's fun.

1266
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 2: We can go back we can go back and look

1267
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 2: on YouTube. You can literally see what videos bringing in,

1268
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 2: what money.

1269
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: Monetizing, Yeah, and that's what makes them great. So it's like, okay,

1270
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: tell you when subscribe was spiked, tell you all of that.

1271
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 4: I feel like this is your chair onl you started

1272
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 4: this back in the early two thousands.

1273
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: Just not even count all that.

1274
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 2: We keep that over there because we know what that

1275
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 2: was bringing. Let's just be honest, starving. But once you

1276
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 2: start putting this podcast on there, we're looking.

1277
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: At a little something coming in there. Just what was

1278
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: the conversation about not being paid from video? So and

1279
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: my understanding is correctly, he only monetized. He only paid

1280
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: you guys to monetize the audio. He did not pay

1281
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: all for the video.

1282
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 4: I didn't get nothing from YouTube.

1283
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't know a deal like that. I've never heard of.

1284
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 4: Of course you don't.

1285
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: You don't get nothing from the video and your talent

1286
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: on camera, you're recording me but not getting me nothing

1287
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: from video. It's crazy, Joe, I gotta talk to you

1288
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: about that.

1289
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 4: All of the things that we humbly said, okay.

1290
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: When y'all asked for video money or hey, what's up

1291
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: with what? What was the conversations. Then his manager said, no,

1292
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: it's not happened. He's not paying there for that.

1293
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 4: He said, okay, no problem, humbly, ain't no problem. This

1294
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 4: is what I'm saying.

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01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: How long you He didn't even say that money I'm

1296
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: giving you no counts as the video. No no, no, no,

1297
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: no no.

1298
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 4: You're not getting paid from video at all.

1299
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: That's wow. That's he's and you're monetizing it in my face.

1300
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: You got six cameras in my face is wow. And

1301
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: my face is still up there and y'all and you know,

1302
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: Fred Taylor, I believe got a law, a settlement of

1303
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: some sorts. I think he was talking about like him

1304
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: and Be did some business to like Yo, I need

1305
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: some of that for sure. I'm gonna take that down. Yeah,

1306
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He said, Well, I take

1307
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: that back. He said he didn't want to take it down,

1308
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: and Be probably be gonna just cut the check.

1309
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 2: But that's you know, their relationship is probably different, and

1310
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 2: it's probably not too much ego between those two gentlemen,

1311
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 2: or it's not, you know, they probably it's just they're

1312
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 2: not dealing with the type of person I will be

1313
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 2: dealing with if I tried to do that, so you

1314
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 2: know what again, But the important thing was it was

1315
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 2: all for the culture and us building what we were building,

1316
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 2: and Rory and myself didn't want.

1317
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 4: To interrupt that.

1318
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 2: Man, so we dealt with a lot. Man's like, that's head, yeah,

1319
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:14,919
Speaker 2: but this is what I'm saying.

1320
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: So I got six cameras in my face monetizing twice

1321
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: a week on YouTube and telling me you're not paying

1322
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: me as wild.

1323
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 2: But we did it because we saw the value and

1324
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 2: we didn't want to disrupt it because we like then

1325
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 2: we see that, and.

1326
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:34,919
Speaker 1: He would always say, you gotta stop worka mm hmm.

1327
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: I'll ask you what I asked Fred when y'all left

1328
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: the show? Were you trying to tank the show?

1329
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 4: No?

1330
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 2: See when we left, when we left, right, I had

1331
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 2: Uh it was because he had told Rory not to

1332
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 2: come in, and you know I didn't like that, and

1333
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 2: then I showed up at the studio and you know,

1334
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 2: we had to talk. And then when he told me

1335
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 2: it was none of my business to me, it was

1336
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 2: over with at that point because I can't unhear you that,

1337
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 2: you know, and I can never sit down in the

1338
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 2: room with you and act like, excuse me, act like

1339
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 2: you didn't say that. So when I left at that point,

1340
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 2: I told Rory, I said, yea, it's over. You know,

1341
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 2: he said what he said, and I can't. I can't

1342
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 2: sit down in the room with that dude after that,

1343
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,479
Speaker 2: not not not him saying that and then not knowing

1344
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 2: everything that we agreed not to get paid from and everything,

1345
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 2: knowing everything we built.

1346
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 4: It's just like, all right, enough is enough?

1347
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 2: Like you just it's like, you're not gonna we took

1348
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 2: a small percentage to begin with, the percentage that nobody

1349
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 2: would have agreed to, and we're not getting paid on YouTube.

1350
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 2: And then now you're stand in my face and tell

1351
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 2: me this is none of my business when I'm paying

1352
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 2: the taxes on the money that's coming in.

1353
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 4: So for me, it was done there.

1354
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 2: Rory begged me to have a meeting once he got back. Uh,

1355
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 2: So we all went to his house and sat down

1356
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 2: and talked.

1357
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 4: And he agreed.

1358
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 2: He said, yeah, we're gonna, you know, gonna get the

1359
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 2: account and right, get the account and sent to your people.

1360
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 4: Da da da da da.

1361
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 2: Let's all go to our corners and we're gonna get

1362
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 2: everything right, and then we'll come back and you know, we'll, we'll, we'll,

1363
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 2: we'll reconvene and move forward.

1364
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 4: Like we just take a pause. Everybody go to their corner,

1365
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 4: all right, cool.

1366
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 2: Next thing, I know, three days later, he got these

1367
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 2: two new dudes recording an episode. And I'm like, we

1368
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 2: just had a talk at your crib and you said

1369
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 2: we're gonna take some a week off and get all

1370
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 2: the paperwork right and then we'll reconvene. Now, all of

1371
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 2: a sudden, you got two new dudes sitting in there.

1372
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:23,959
Speaker 2: It's like, all right, cool man. That was a slap

1373
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 2: in the face at that point. I mean, I was

1374
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 2: done anyway, so it didn't matter, only because Rory, you know,

1375
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 2: kept talking to me and kept begging me to, you know,

1376
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: try to make it right.

1377
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 4: All right, cool.

1378
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 2: And then when we were supposed to get we ended

1379
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 2: up going back and we did two episodes. And in

1380
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 2: that time of that two episodes, we only did that

1381
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 2: because we were being told that the accounting was being

1382
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 2: done and was on the way right, and that Friday

1383
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 2: was supposed to be when the accounting was going to

1384
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 2: be sent. And then when that Friday came, his manager

1385
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 2: reached out and was like, yeah, he said that that

1386
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,439
Speaker 2: is the accounting and that he's not sending nothing else.

1387
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 4: It's literally what he said.

1388
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 2: He said that the accounting that the one hundred and

1389
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 2: forty thousand dollars mistake was on was the accounting and

1390
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 2: he's not sending.

1391
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 1: That at even straight. That's crazy, that's wow. So so

1392
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: niggas is crazy.

1393
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 4: But this is what I'm saying.

1394
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 2: But then, but then you got YOURRRR, your manager in

1395
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 2: the room when we don't show up and you're yelling

1396
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 2: at Rory's fired and all this I hear his manager toboy,

1397
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 2: I told you you was paying the more than they

1398
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 2: was more than you.

1399
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 4: Supposed to be.

1400
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1401
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 2: Who because we went and got a motherfucking a multi

1402
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 2: million dollar deal from serious XM.

1403
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 4: So who was he overpaying?

1404
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: Right? Because he said that he was being more generous

1405
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: than he should have been and all of that.

1406
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 4: I remember that.

1407
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, how does he know? And he not a partner

1408
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 1: and you don't know or is he a partner too?

1409
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 4: The manager?

1410
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he know what he he know what he's taking.

1411
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 2: He know he know the money that's being stolen, he

1412
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 2: knows that. Bring the paperwork. We don't have to do

1413
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 2: none of this ever again, right, right, right, right, should

1414
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 2: account show I would shoulder, I would show he can't.

1415
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah he can't, I will, I would show it he can't.

1416
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: That's why I never heard you speak about why y'all

1417
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: didn't start a podcast, why y'all were there, or spin

1418
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: off or speak to some of those narratives that people say, Yo,

1419
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: they didn't create the value outside of sitting on camera

1420
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 1: with him.

1421
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 4: We didn't, because when I'm looking at it, we did.

1422
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially when y'all I'm talking about why y'all were there.

1423
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 1: But in my opinion, I would say, well, damn they

1424
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 1: they were fighting for the money from what they were doing.

1425
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: I don't see how you can create something while you're

1426
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: still saying, hold up, I ain't properly paid for. Yeah.

1427
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 2: See that's the thing again, people don't. I don't know

1428
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 2: how clear we you know, we talked about this a

1429
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 2: few times, right, just for like the creators. If you

1430
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 2: have a you're starting to show with your homies in

1431
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 2: a basement, you know it ain't no no money involved,

1432
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 2: no nothing, and y'all building something and y'all look up

1433
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 2: one day and y'all got a fucking audience and people

1434
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 2: tuning in, and you know, now you know people are

1435
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 2: starting to reach out and things like that.

1436
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 4: You see it now.

1437
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 2: Now it's becoming a business, and y'all have a contract

1438
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 2: with each other and say, okay, this is the percentage

1439
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 2: that we're gonna split. This is how we're gonna bust it.

1440
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 2: Whatever bag comes. This is how we busting it down.

1441
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 2: Right now, when the bag comes and you don't see

1442
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 2: the numbers that's coming in, and you don't see what's

1443
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 2: being paid in and paid out, you don't know what

1444
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 2: if you get in your like it's like home me

1445
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 2: hold on. Before any of this became a thing, we

1446
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 2: had this contract, right.

1447
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 4: But again, you're talking to somebody that has said that

1448
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 4: they don't honor.

1449
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: Contract, right, and then I've seen when you said it

1450
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 1: back to him, and then he didn't receive that the

1451
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: same way.

1452
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 4: Of course he can't.

1453
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 2: Because anything if you tell somebody like listen, this is

1454
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 2: something that you said, and then now you're moving like

1455
01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 2: this is something you said, and they know that, the

1456
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 2: people gonn look at you like, oh, that's fucked up.

1457
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 4: Of course you're gonna try to act like you never

1458
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 4: said that.

1459
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 2: It's like, bro, I'm not I would never sit here

1460
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 2: lived about anybody. You're on camera saying that before plenty

1461
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 2: of times you've done business like that with people.

1462
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 4: Plenty of times.

1463
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 2: Like it's not something I'm just saying where I fucked

1464
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 2: up at And it's again the type of man and

1465
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 2: my mother raised treat people the way you want to

1466
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 2: be treated.

1467
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 4: So because I would never do that to him, right,

1468
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 4: benefit that to me? You you know what I'm saying.

1469
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 2: So it's a it's a lesson learned. And you know,

1470
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 2: to other creatives out there, you know, just be careful man,

1471
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 2: because you.

1472
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 1: Know and no know what it sounds like. You know

1473
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: know what it looked like, what it feels like. You

1474
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

1475
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 4: And the more important, something don't feel right. It's something

1476
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 4: not right right.

1477
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 1: And when I when I when I look at it

1478
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 1: and think about y'all, sometimes I say to myself, that

1479
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 1: was one of the best shows ever to be created, man,

1480
01:07:55,560 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 1: And it was that podcast was so youstry, the depth

1481
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 1: of it, the time y'all put in it, man, to

1482
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 1: just evolve, it was amazing.

1483
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 4: Bro.

1484
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 2: We had some great, great great times last some great

1485
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 2: ship but you know, unfortunately, like we've seen time and

1486
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 2: time always bro, you know that money come into play man,

1487
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 2: and break the pool balls.

1488
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 3: Man.

1489
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 2: It just it's you know, but that's it's a deeper

1490
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 2: thing with us when it comes to money and things

1491
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 2: like that. It's just something that we can't get past.

1492
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 2: Like we just always feel like we got to do

1493
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 2: each other dirty or do each other wrong when when

1494
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 2: money come in, because you know, for some of us

1495
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 2: we've never had. But but to me it's the opposite,

1496
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 2: Like I I can't do you dirty behind something I

1497
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 2: never had because it's like I don't I.

1498
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 4: Never had it. I'm not missing that ship. I never

1499
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 4: had it. Right, So when you do me dirty for

1500
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 4: some ship that you never had, it's with super weird.

1501
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 2: Say Nigga, we never even had that type of money,

1502
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 2: Like why would you do your man dirty for that

1503
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 2: type of money when you never had it? So it's like, Nigga,

1504
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 2: what does it matter? You was able to survive this

1505
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 2: long without the type of money, right understand, So to do.

1506
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 4: It's just weird. Man. And then, like I said, I've

1507
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 4: seen how things look when now on this side, when

1508
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 4: you know.

1509
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 1: Business is done, you're more happy now.

1510
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:16,600
Speaker 4: Oh my god, this you know what.

1511
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,799
Speaker 2: Me and Rory are doing man is again we were

1512
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 2: moving at our own pace, were creating at our own pace,

1513
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 2: were doing business at our own pace.

1514
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 4: Man, it's beautiful man.

1515
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 2: And you know, traveling the world doing these shows and

1516
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 2: getting out here touching the people and having these one

1517
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 2: on one conversations with people that tune in and support weekly.

1518
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 2: It's humbling, man. You know, it's humbling to go to

1519
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 2: the UK and people that that's a big move. Yeah, man,

1520
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 2: I mean, you know how long y'all been on y'all loan?

1521
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 1: Not even that long to.

1522
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 4: Be a September a year?

1523
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 1: What? Yeah? One year? One year and you in London

1524
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 1: And that's fucking dope, man. I mean, man, if he's

1525
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 1: other podcast, niggas don't salute that. I salute that.

1526
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 4: But that's why I'm sitting here with you for sure.

1527
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 2: You know a lot of niggas don't fuck with me, man,

1528
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 2: I think because they you know, people don't fuck with

1529
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,719
Speaker 2: you when they see everything that they're.

1530
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: Not in you, right, and they intimidated me.

1531
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like you know when they hear me talk

1532
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 2: and say, oh, you know these niggas suckers that they

1533
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 2: know I'm talking to them, but I don't know that

1534
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 2: because I don't know how to exactly, so you know

1535
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 2: a lot of niggas don't. You know, they don't they

1536
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 2: don't speak to me, and they don't you know what,

1537
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 2: They talk crazy about me behind clubs. And it's like, man,

1538
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 2: if y'all niggas only knew, Man, I show love, sure,

1539
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

1540
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 4: Like, I ain't got it. I ain't got it.

1541
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not gonna get with over though podcast

1542
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 2: money ship. I don't care about that, man. So you know,

1543
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 2: I'm just me, man. And and like I said, with

1544
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 2: me and Rory are doing is beautiful.

1545
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 3: Uh.

1546
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 2: You know, we're having a lot of fun with this ship, man.

1547
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 2: And I promise we got so much ship that we're

1548
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 2: putting together, man, and that we were gready to jump into.

1549
01:10:57,840 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 4: Man. And it's it's gonna be you know.

1550
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 2: We the people see it though, They see what we're

1551
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 2: carving out, and they see the lane we were going

1552
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 2: into for sure. And you know, we we have the

1553
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 2: we have the right people supporting us. We got the

1554
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 2: right people behind us, you know. Shout out to U

1555
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:17,839
Speaker 2: t A, shout out to Rich Paul Agent, Orn bigs

1556
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 2: Benner hip Hop.

1557
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 4: You know, we got the right We got the right

1558
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 4: people behind us.

1559
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 1: Sure, how strong is their brotherhood between you and Ma.

1560
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,799
Speaker 1: Did that make y'all strong? I'm sorry you and Rory?

1561
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 1: How strong is their brotherhood between you and Rory? Did

1562
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 1: that make y'all strong? Going through that?

1563
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah? Absolutely? Man.

1564
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 2: You know it's like I said, Rory or not myself. Now,

1565
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 2: we just sometimes we don't even have to talk. We'll

1566
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 2: look at each other. We just know what it is

1567
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:46,560
Speaker 2: on the top. Yeah, like, man, here we go with

1568
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 2: this ship. But more importantly, we just we just know

1569
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 2: what we ain't going for. You know, no holes, just

1570
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 2: like we're not even entertaining that.

1571
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 1: You know, when I look back at it too, I

1572
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 1: want the young creators to pay attention to This is

1573
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 1: a very important situation. You guys operated in a certain way,

1574
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 1: holding on to information that you didn't have accounting, that

1575
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 1: money was coming in at some point in time, and

1576
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: even if it had stopped coming in, there's logos popping up,

1577
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: there's Patreon, but there's certain things happening, and we're still

1578
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 1: waiting on accounting from a couple of years ago, and

1579
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: so that led to frustration. But you guys operated with

1580
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 1: that information as best as you know how. And everybody

1581
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 1: talks about y'all and how y'all acting on camera, and

1582
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: maybe y'all wordiness enthused that they thought you should have

1583
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 1: been or involved as they thought you should have been.

1584
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 1: But nobody ever talks about how Joe responded to when

1585
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 1: y'all had the conversation with Parks about something ain't going right.

1586
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: I think Parks when it said something which Joe responded

1587
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: in a.

1588
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 4: Way that was, oh, that's when he told Rory you

1589
01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 4: not to come in.

1590
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 1: This is a problem. Now as the boss, how you

1591
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: handle that information is very important, right, You don't come

1592
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 1: emotional like that as the boss.

1593
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 2: You keep but the emotion was there because see what

1594
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 2: it ultimately was. We were in the studio and you know,

1595
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 2: Rory and myself were like thereafter Homie had left, and

1596
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,679
Speaker 2: the staff started talking to us because they weren't comfortable

1597
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 2: talking to him because whenever they talked to him about

1598
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 2: things that's bothering them or you know, money or being

1599
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 2: paid or things like that, it's always met with anger

1600
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 2: and yelling and things like that. With us, they know

1601
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 2: the energy is different, so they decided to start having

1602
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 2: a conversation with us and and and voicing some of

1603
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 2: their discrepancies. So we was like, oh, We're like, oh shit,

1604
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 2: we didn't even know that that was happening, Like all right,

1605
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 2: Will And then you know Parks being who you know,

1606
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 2: he's friends with homies men, and you know, he decided

1607
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 2: to after that meeting to call him and tell him, Hey,

1608
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 2: some of the guys are not happy. And I guess

1609
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 2: Homie felt like that was Rory's dealing, but it wasn't right.

1610
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 2: So when he told Rory not to come in, it

1611
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 2: was based on because he felt like Rory had started

1612
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:18,640
Speaker 2: a meeting and he didn't. We was just there and

1613
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 2: we left the studio late, and the guys decided to

1614
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:23,919
Speaker 2: kick it with us about the situation.

1615
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 1: Some they felt the way about it.

1616
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 4: It's not our fault that they're comfortable talking to us

1617
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:29,919
Speaker 4: about these things.

1618
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 1: Right, and he and see people never said, yo, Joe,

1619
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 1: you overreacted to getting information that your people are unhappy

1620
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: as the boss, nigga, what you think I'm supposed to

1621
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:41,799
Speaker 1: do with my family? Come tell me they unhappy?

1622
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 2: But you know why, because he felt like he wasn't

1623
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 2: in the room so he couldn't spend narratives and dance

1624
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 2: when people start saying what they unhappy about. He felt like, no,

1625
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:54,600
Speaker 2: I need to be in there, because.

1626
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 1: He said he felt it was cowardly. He don't understand it.

1627
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 1: No matter what you your family unhappy. So at this point,

1628
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 1: as the boss, as the father, as the head that

1629
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: you say you is, you're supposed to take that situation

1630
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 1: and comb through it and not come back and say.

1631
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 2: You only only that's nervous energy. When somebody start acting

1632
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 2: like that.

1633
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 1: And you know, found the gold Knag, I thought, I stand.

1634
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 4: That's what that's all. It's nervous energy.

1635
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, ship, and they start confirming to you like, oh,

1636
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 1: I'm from where I know what this means, and you

1637
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 1: won't show me. Of course, man, I'm putting two and

1638
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 1: two the game.

1639
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 2: So not only not only are we not we know

1640
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 2: we getting fucked, but now even the staff I feel

1641
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 2: like they getting fucked.

1642
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we know what this is.

1643
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 2: And and that's why for me, it was whack for

1644
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 2: Parks to take that stance, because Parks knows and I've

1645
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 2: said that on two Parks he's he's had and and

1646
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 2: and that bothered me because when when we had our

1647
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 2: meeting outside at Park's crib, he pulled Parks outside and

1648
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 2: he asks Parks, he said, yo, do me and you

1649
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 2: have any money issues or business issues and Park said no,

1650
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 2: without putting Park's business out there, that's a lie of

1651
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 2: known Parks. Parks has engineered and recorded records that he

1652
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 2: hasn't been paid.

1653
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 4: For ever, and he's voiced that right. He's he's recording

1654
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 4: multiple shows and he's getting paid a Sundar.

1655
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 1: So you say he's in two D.

1656
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 4: He just he's in too deep And I understand it,

1657
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 4: and I'm not mad.

1658
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: We don't he Do you think he got the talent

1659
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 1: that you and Road ricat though.

1660
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 4: As far as personality, yeah, I don't know. I don't

1661
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 4: know if that's Park.

1662
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 1: On do you think I'll rephrase the question because he's

1663
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 1: played off camera so long, does he have the ability

1664
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 1: to pivot in the way that y'all did because y'all

1665
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 1: faces were so recognizable by being on camera for five years.

1666
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 1: I have a hun it was.

1667
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 4: I think that Parks is.

1668
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 2: I think that he's super talent, that he's super he's

1669
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 2: super smart when it comes to music. He's like a

1670
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 2: super nerd. And I say that respectfully. You know he

1671
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 2: he's a hip hop head, very talented. I don't know

1672
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 2: if I don't know if he wants to be a personality.

1673
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 2: I think that his passion more so is in the

1674
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 2: music mixing, uh you know, playing, you know, I think

1675
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,640
Speaker 2: that's where his passion lies. I don't know if his

1676
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 2: passion is I think that the podcast just fell into

1677
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 2: his lap. But I don't think that he uh, he

1678
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 2: wants to be a personality, quote unquote, I don't think

1679
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 2: that's what he wants. I think that he would rather

1680
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 2: be creating music and mixing and recording music at a

1681
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 2: high level for for some some really really high.

1682
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 4: Art, high level artists.

1683
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 1: And he'll be comfortable there, oh, because he's a that's

1684
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:57,560
Speaker 1: his that's and that's that speaks to why he was

1685
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:58,759
Speaker 1: comfortable off camera.

1686
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 4: But and that and you know, and that.

1687
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 2: He should play into that and he has he did

1688
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 2: play into which is why that it was the blend

1689
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,680
Speaker 2: we had was perfect because it was literally real relationship.

1690
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1691
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 2: Like so and then parks, like I said, being uh,

1692
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 2: the the just the the the ear that he has

1693
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 2: and for the sound and how the show should sound

1694
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 2: and things like that, and just mixing it and you know,

1695
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 2: audio wise, the show sounded amazing, you know what I mean.

1696
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 2: So I think that that's where his strength is. I

1697
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 2: just think again, he's just he's a little into deep

1698
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 2: personally and business wise right now with with everything that

1699
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 2: he can't really voice his his frustrations and and things

1700
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 2: like that. But he's he's married. Now, congrats, I didn't

1701
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 2: you know, I didn't speak to him since that day.

1702
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 2: I haven't spoken to anybody over there, So congrats to him.

1703
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 2: And again, I want to be very clear, it's no

1704
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 2: beef with anybody.

1705
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1706
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 4: Life is amazing, Life is beautiful, My car is beautiful.

1707
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 2: You selling that ship, yeah, I mean we you know,

1708
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 2: it's it's it's who I am, man, It's I'm im.

1709
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 1: You can teach how to fish in there. You went

1710
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 1: and got the information.

1711
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's why I'm here.

1712
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 2: Most importantly, man, I want creators to know, like you're

1713
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 2: gonna run in the roadblocks, it's always gonna be some

1714
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 2: ship in the game that's gonna you know, tell you, yo,

1715
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 2: fuck this ship, just you know walk away right?

1716
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 1: Nah? Yeah? How to identify some of these ship.

1717
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 2: Just I'm just telling you what to watch out for,

1718
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 2: what to be careful for. It's gonna happen. I don't

1719
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 2: care how long you feel like Homies was homies and

1720
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 2: this that and the third when you know you you

1721
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 2: want to know who your friends are. Put some money

1722
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 2: on the table.

1723
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 1: Man, it's gonna expose it everything.

1724
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 2: It's gonna expose it every time. And then you're gonna

1725
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 2: see what somebody think about you. You're gonna see how

1726
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 2: much they feel you worth.

1727
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

1728
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 2: It's you know, go to the bathroom, you're gonna come back.

1729
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 2: That pile won't look a little.

1730
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 1: You're gonna put something in the pocket.

1731
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 2: It's crazy, man, It's like, you know, you start seeing

1732
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 2: like these was the homies and you know that's life.

1733
01:19:57,840 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 2: That's a that's just a life lesson. That's why I said,

1734
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 2: you know it's it's no, it's no, it's no. It's

1735
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 2: no hard feelings for.

1736
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 1: No one ever see y'all make it up. Nah, it's

1737
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 1: over with.

1738
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm cut from a different type of texture too.

1739
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1740
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 2: And then, like I said, he started saying too much

1741
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 2: after that, where it was like, you know, homie, we

1742
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 2: know you stole money, Like you can start trying to

1743
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 2: create these narratives all you want, and we don't have

1744
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 2: no resume, and you coddled.

1745
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 4: Coddle to me, you coddled me. Niggas you crazy like

1746
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 4: niggas that know me, yo. You know, it's funny like

1747
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 4: people that really know us.

1748
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 2: And then they heard that, they was like, oh yeah,

1749
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 2: he just he gonna do anything but just tell he

1750
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 2: gonna start saying anything but the truth at this point.

1751
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 2: And that's why I'm just like, you know, you coddled me,

1752
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,719
Speaker 2: Like all right, man, Like, if that's the that's.

1753
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 1: What's the nature of the relationship. When did you like? What?

1754
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 1: What is he what? What makes him even say that?

1755
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 2: I guess because uh, like I was, you know, the

1756
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 2: house that he was running. I say he needed help, Well, well, yeah,

1757
01:20:57,640 --> 01:20:59,719
Speaker 2: I mean he needed help on he always had roommates

1758
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 2: and things like that, which is not you know.

1759
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 1: It's not a bad thing, but it's it's it's rough

1760
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 1: to identify that as you know, coddling somebody.

1761
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 2: If that's what that means in his and in his mind.

1762
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 2: I feel like he felt like I had to live

1763
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 2: with him, like I was homeless or something.

1764
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:15,640
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1765
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 2: I don't know what type of story he's trying to

1766
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 2: create to justify his uh him stealing and or him

1767
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 2: doing whatever he did.

1768
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1769
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:27,719
Speaker 2: I don't really care, but the facts are the facts,

1770
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 2: and he know what the facts are, Like Homie cut

1771
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 2: it out, like you know, it was never that, you know,

1772
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 2: it wasn't that you you know, you know me very well.

1773
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 2: I was never without anything. If I want something, I

1774
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 2: had it or I would go get it.

1775
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 1: Like, you know, I think if y'all wanted to tank

1776
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 1: the show, like if y'all wasn't really trying to like

1777
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 1: make it work, that y'all wouldn't even done that Patreon

1778
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 1: like show up over there at all. Because in my opinion,

1779
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 1: and I said this when I was speaking to Beat Marshall,

1780
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 1: one of the biggest tricks or one of the biggest

1781
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 1: coincidence coincidences I'll say in podcasting is Joe Budden was

1782
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: able to transfer that audience before y'all left, right, he

1783
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:14,640
Speaker 1: was able to take all of that interest that he

1784
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: had number one that didn't get the deal and ball

1785
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 1: behind his creator talk and transferred that behind that paywall,

1786
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:25,640
Speaker 1: and then y'all left. Now, granted, when y'all left, I

1787
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 1: imagine some of the people left too, but he was

1788
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 1: some of those people stayed to be nosy that just

1789
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 1: stayed anyway, Like so he was able to that transfer

1790
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 1: of that audience was so fucking important. Why didn't Well,

1791
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 1: I guess because y'all wasn't trying to take the show,

1792
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 1: do you what I mean? How many episodes did y'all

1793
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 1: do on Patreon? Maybe two one?

1794
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 4: I think the deal was signed in January. In the

1795
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 4: February March is when we left.

1796
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 1: Did you know about the deal before he announced that?

1797
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 1: How how long did you guys know about the deal

1798
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 1: before you're announced?

1799
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 4: Uh? Maybe a couple of weeks and didn't even that deal? Like,

1800
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 4: I don't even know.

1801
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 2: I'm I remember he came in and was talking about

1802
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 2: something he was paying us in crypto or something like that,

1803
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 2: and then come to find out the deal we were

1804
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 2: we were supposed to get. I think more than that, Bro,

1805
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, it's so much ship that I'm I'm

1806
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 2: more than positive that we were old.

1807
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 4: But you know, I got people that called me every week.

1808
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:35,680
Speaker 2: You know why you ain't, why you ain't soon go

1809
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 2: get your fucking money. Don't let him take that money

1810
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 2: like that. That's a lot of millions of dollars. But

1811
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 2: I'm just like, Bro, I don't I'm just so different, man,

1812
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 2: you know, I'm just a different type.

1813
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 1: And you know what, Like I said, I pointed out

1814
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 1: their principal move you made that say that's say a lot.

1815
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:54,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, like I don't want to sit in no courtroom.

1816
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 1: And and man, I stopped fucking with my famous homeboy.

1817
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 1: Who would have who would have kicked the white boy

1818
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 1: at the car kept me in the car? I stopped

1819
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 1: fucking with him because he wasn't keeping it solid about

1820
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:10,639
Speaker 1: the situation. That man. Come on, and if Joe can't

1821
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 1: argue with that bro that's got that says something, Bro.

1822
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 4: And that's what I'm saying.

1823
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 1: He knows me.

1824
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 2: He I'm the same dude that sat in the cell

1825
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 2: because you had pills in the car. I sat in

1826
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 2: the sell with you for a weekend. Come on, man,

1827
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 2: I never I don't pop pills.

1828
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,879
Speaker 1: Come on, your behalf.

1829
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:32,600
Speaker 4: Man. I sat there with you.

1830
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 2: I was, I was sitting the screen, man, I was.

1831
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 2: I was always that guy like I don't. I don't

1832
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 2: because I know. See, you know what it is when

1833
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 2: you know who you are and you secure within yourself comfortable,

1834
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 2: You're comfortable. And not only that, you know that if

1835
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 2: I really start getting my ship off in here, these

1836
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 2: niggas gonna get upset.

1837
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 1: I can get thirty easy.

1838
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 4: They gonna they gonna get mad. They gonna get mad.

1839
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 2: It's like, now you know, I set the screen, but

1840
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 2: then it's like, you know, when I start getting my

1841
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 2: ship off, you look like you set in the.

1842
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:12,639
Speaker 4: Screen, but you really pushing it. It's like you're really

1843
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 4: coming out, you really pushing that yourself. I'm still getting off,

1844
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 4: but it's like you ain't.

1845
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 1: Really and I'm on to you as I'm still I'm

1846
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 1: still knocking them down.

1847
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 4: See, And it's like, so you know, you gotta be

1848
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:26,919
Speaker 4: very And that's to these creatives.

1849
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 2: Man, you gotta be very careful of how much you

1850
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 2: show and when you show it, because when people see

1851
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 2: what you really got, they'll close them doors.

1852
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:40,560
Speaker 1: Man. Sure, And that's what that's what I find like,

1853
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 1: even with somebody like Joe. I know, everybody around Joe

1854
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 1: and all them people they say, you know, man, I'm

1855
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 1: gonna tell you, man, we're gonna get I'm like, yo,

1856
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see him ship light on anything

1857
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 1: that he doesn't benefit from, right, So I don't see

1858
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 1: him shit. And even I tell you what I heard

1859
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 1: him say one time, he said he went to dinner

1860
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 1: with a creator and the creator ask him how do

1861
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 1: I get ads? And he said, you want me to

1862
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 1: tell you how to get ads? And I to spend

1863
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:09,640
Speaker 1: all my life doing this and you want me to

1864
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 1: just pass you the information? And I'm like, yeah, that's

1865
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 1: what the big Homie's supposed to do, right. So what

1866
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:18,720
Speaker 1: happens is That's what I'm saying. And it hurts. It

1867
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: hurts the young creators because he talked so much creator talk.

1868
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying right now? You know, I

1869
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 1: think I think you know, you know, like I said,

1870
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 1: he has this unique I'll give him this. He has

1871
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 1: this unique ability to take his friends and or do

1872
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 1: a podcast amongst his friends that translates good on camera.

1873
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if everyone can do that, right. I

1874
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 1: think that what he what he's doing now is different

1875
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 1: than what he did then. I think that when I

1876
01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:00,560
Speaker 1: look at the show that he has now, if you

1877
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 1: you said you don't watch it at all? No, damn,

1878
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, Uh, do you do you

1879
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 1: even think that them dudes are good at pod? Do

1880
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 1: you think?

1881
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 2: But I mean, I know those dudes, I know, I

1882
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 2: know Ice is, you know, he he's he's in tune

1883
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 2: with a lot of the music, a lot of the

1884
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 2: new music that's out here with the young the younger generation.

1885
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 2: He's always been that that dude. He's always been the

1886
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:24,639
Speaker 2: music dude that just listen to every guy just because

1887
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 2: you know music. Don't mean you can pond know that's

1888
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 2: that's true, but it is a h he's a he's

1889
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 2: a he's a he's a smart guy. Yeah, he's he's

1890
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 2: well spoken, he's articulate, you know. But I think I

1891
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,640
Speaker 2: think that what he's trying to do is recreate the

1892
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 2: fact that there's a lot of years, there a lot

1893
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 2: of history amongst them, so reach that, trying to reach that,

1894
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 2: which is which is important in podcasts, and having the chemistry,

1895
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 2: having a real relationship with people that helps.

1896
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:53,640
Speaker 4: I just think that.

1897
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:58,600
Speaker 2: I just think that they are kind of like, I know,

1898
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,760
Speaker 2: ish more than anybody's looking them a little funny, you

1899
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

1900
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 1: I don't he don't buy down to him.

1901
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 2: I give him that, Oh yeah no, because it's just

1902
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 2: he's he's he's very strong, opinionated.

1903
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 4: He's an opinionated guy.

1904
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 2: But I think more importantly, I think that you know,

1905
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 2: it has a history with him as well, where it's

1906
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:19,680
Speaker 2: like watching I'm watching you like I know, because if

1907
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 2: if you did it, if you did it the mall,

1908
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:24,720
Speaker 2: you definitely do it. But you're gonna try to do

1909
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 2: it with me, and it's gonna happen. A zebra, a

1910
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 2: zebra can't change the stripes, man, A player can't change

1911
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 2: his game and the knife in it, you know what

1912
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 2: I mean. It's just a matter of I think. The

1913
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 2: only reason why it hasn't happened yet it'll be too obvious,

1914
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So it's going it's gonna

1915
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 2: drag out a little longer because it'll be too obvious

1916
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 2: at this point, but it's gonna happen.

1917
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 4: It's gonna happen. I'm already. I'm already hearing things.

1918
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1919
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 4: I'm already hearing what he was trying to pay those

1920
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 4: guys to go into him.

1921
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm already here. What happened to that? That too? Would wait?

1922
01:28:59,880 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, too, wouldn't the funk away? I

1923
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 1: know that about tickets? They send me my money back?

1924
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, man, you know, like I said,

1925
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know what's going on over there.

1926
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 2: You know, it's Rory and Maul for over here.

1927
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm coming to the show to marow too.

1928
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 4: Man, pull up, We're gonna have fun.

1929
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 3: Man.

1930
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 1: Listen.

1931
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Speaker 4: That's the that's the beauty about this thing. Man.

1932
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 2: We uh, we just were moving around and we were

1933
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 2: trying to just like I said, you know you you

1934
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 2: DM me. I've been watching you. I've been seeing what

1935
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 2: you do. I love your episode with a little baby.

1936
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 2: That's the show that I you know, I'm super proud

1937
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 2: of it. I came out here when he shot the

1938
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 2: video with Saint John for Trap, and I told the

1939
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 2: homies back in New York, I said, I said that

1940
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 2: niggas official.

1941
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 1: Man.

1942
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 2: I like the way a little baby move. I say,

1943
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 2: he's official. I said, them niggas was inside that motherfucking truck.

1944
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 2: They ain't get out until it was time to get say,

1945
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 2: I say, yeah, them niggas is moving right for sure.

1946
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 2: But but but seeing his documentary and then the interview

1947
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 2: with you, and a few of the interviews that I

1948
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 2: heard I heard, I just I fuck with him, man,

1949
01:29:58,520 --> 01:29:59,680
Speaker 2: because you can just tell his.

1950
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 4: Again you know, morals yeah, integrity.

1951
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he always on the right side of man.

1952
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 1: You know, it's family. You know. He put me in

1953
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 1: a hell of a position you know, to roll out

1954
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:15,600
Speaker 1: that album with me and number one album in the

1955
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 1: world at the time, it's like reaching and giving me

1956
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 1: that look. It's like, man, look you that shit you doing.

1957
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 1: We gotta turn that up. And what's been happening here

1958
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 1: is the coach is doing that and that's so important.

1959
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 4: Man.

1960
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 1: It's like, damn all right. So now you know I

1961
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 1: always tell I always tell peeing baby like I'm in

1962
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:36,680
Speaker 1: debt with them for that, just on the strength of

1963
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 1: they could have win anywhere in the world. Man, dude

1964
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:41,599
Speaker 1: can go anywhere in the world. Man, Not only did

1965
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 1: they do that, they called me and said, put that

1966
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 1: motherfucker out first, like days before we even start doing media.

1967
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:51,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, All of that so important.

1968
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:52,519
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1969
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, man, these are some real such that

1970
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:58,560
Speaker 2: goes back to what I'm saying. People are trying to

1971
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 2: make it seem like that's IMpower all to do.

1972
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 1: Na.

1973
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 2: This is coming from the dude that got the number

1974
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 2: one hours you know what I'm saying, and he giving

1975
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 2: you that look and saying put it out first.

1976
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 4: I wanted that to be the first look. You see

1977
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 4: how simple that is. But when somebody want to do it.

1978
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 1: They gonna do it. They're gonna do it, right, that's

1979
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 1: why we'll get the companies and we'll get off all

1980
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 1: of that. Just get into business and companies and shit.

1981
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 1: That's why some of these companies they try to say

1982
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 1: certain things like you'd be like, yo, you got to

1983
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 1: have a budget, like we need some money. But some

1984
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 1: of these companies, you know, they'll want to participate and

1985
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 1: not really have act like they don't have a budget. Well,

1986
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:37,759
Speaker 1: a company can't find no money. Well, we don't know. Listen,

1987
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 1: if this was jay Z in front of you, you're

1988
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 1: a fan, some money, come on. If this was real

1989
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 1: Ren Maull, who you know, just so eighteen hundred tickets

1990
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:47,639
Speaker 1: in the last three weeks. If this was Joe Budden,

1991
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:49,800
Speaker 1: if this was fucking But because it's me and you

1992
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 1: don't know my reach, you're trying to say, hey, I

1993
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:54,040
Speaker 1: tell you what we'll do. We'll get you some ads,

1994
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:57,800
Speaker 1: right nawh fuck yah right, I already got money and

1995
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:00,719
Speaker 1: I'll reach out to the companies myself, exactly right, because

1996
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 1: we have reach with each other. A company can't get

1997
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 1: in touch with you in the way that I did.

1998
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,759
Speaker 1: A company couldn't get the little baby interview. A company

1999
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 1: can't get bag meet Mial, company can't get Fred Taylor,

2000
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:16,559
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall. You know, Andrew showed Charlemagne who up Wilo

2001
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 1: Like no company is involved in that. So we got

2002
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 1: to see the value from the company on what they

2003
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 1: do for us, what y'all deal. Was there a cliff

2004
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 1: value because I imagine y'all were paranoid or or either

2005
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 1: had a cliff vision coming out of the situation with

2006
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 1: Bro that are coming out of situation with him, where

2007
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 1: y'all wanted to have a clear path as to what

2008
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 1: y'all wanted to deal to look like. Do y'all have

2009
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 1: the value that y'all want With Serious? Do you do

2010
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 1: they understand y'all vision as well as the design people

2011
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:51,559
Speaker 1: that work with y'all.

2012
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 4: I think they do.

2013
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 2: I think that was why we went with Serious. You know,

2014
01:32:56,479 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 2: we sat with our agent and the relation ship was there,

2015
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 2: and then they understood what we wanted to do. And

2016
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 2: and the one thing that they said they loved the

2017
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:07,639
Speaker 2: fact that, you know, what we were building. They wanted

2018
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:09,559
Speaker 2: to just be a part of it and they wanted

2019
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 2: to help enhance it in any way.

2020
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 4: That they could.

2021
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 2: So that was why we chose to go with serious

2022
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:18,680
Speaker 2: because they just understood what we were doing and they

2023
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:20,680
Speaker 2: just believed in us. They believe in us.

2024
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:24,280
Speaker 1: Do you do you for people like at who called

2025
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 1: cap on the ten million dollar number? What what do

2026
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 1: you say to that?

2027
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:31,599
Speaker 4: I never I don't know that dude.

2028
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:33,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, well what did you say to the ten million

2029
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 1: dollar number? Was that even a number? Y'all put that?

2030
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 1: Where did they get that number from?

2031
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 2: So?

2032
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:42,520
Speaker 1: I think that announced number or reported number somewhe.

2033
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:45,560
Speaker 2: No, I think I think what happened was, uh, my

2034
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:49,800
Speaker 2: brother Bigs, he had he posted a tweet when we

2035
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:52,760
Speaker 2: we had a photo shooting in interview. We did went

2036
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:56,759
Speaker 2: out and the picture we were smiling, we were laughing,

2037
01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 2: and I think Bigs his his thing was a this

2038
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 2: is what a fresh ten million dollars look like?

2039
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 4: Big yeah. So you know they that that kind of

2040
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 4: is what people started running with. But it's not it's

2041
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 4: not far from.

2042
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 1: That thing, right, shut out? And that's all I'm selling tickets.

2043
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 1: They can cap on line. Oh yeah, they can act

2044
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 1: like we're talking about who gets some tickets?

2045
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 4: So, I mean we talked about who could just come

2046
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 4: outside exactly period.

2047
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:25,679
Speaker 1: Fox some tickets. Okay, you even go to the store

2048
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 1: with this podcast.

2049
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:29,679
Speaker 2: And that's why I'm just like, you know, I'm still

2050
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:32,720
Speaker 2: trying to figure out what this online ship is, right,

2051
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:33,800
Speaker 2: because it's weird.

2052
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 4: I don't play this this game. So you know, when

2053
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:40,800
Speaker 4: dudes starts, I'm like, is he for real? It's like,

2054
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:42,680
Speaker 4: is it really on? If I see him? Is it

2055
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 4: just for something?

2056
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 1: They playing right? Because I don't know, and ain't nobody

2057
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 1: else playing right?

2058
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:49,479
Speaker 2: So you know, dudes like that when he's talking and

2059
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:51,880
Speaker 2: you know, he said things and I'm just like, I

2060
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:53,680
Speaker 2: don't know this, dude, I don't so I don't know

2061
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 2: what this is about him calling Cap on the ten million. Okay,

2062
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:01,840
Speaker 2: I can confirmed that it's definitely not far from that

2063
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 2: at all.

2064
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 1: And his part is a snooze fist. I'll say that

2065
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 1: it's a fun but.

2066
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 4: His but see, and this is another thing you got

2067
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:10,640
Speaker 4: to look out for.

2068
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:14,479
Speaker 2: Like, I like what you do because you sit down

2069
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:18,720
Speaker 2: with the right people, right, and you had the right conversations, right.

2070
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:24,639
Speaker 2: You know, dudes like him, he's just a he's a fan.

2071
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 2: He just want to be affiliated in a round, right

2072
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:33,840
Speaker 2: whoever he think is cool? Because he's not right, So

2073
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 2: you know when you.

2074
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:37,720
Speaker 1: Say the same thing rich Homi Kwahn said, he was like,

2075
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 1: I kind of went up with with a minute. It

2076
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:42,680
Speaker 1: was like, I know, we got a big platform, so

2077
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 1: I go through that.

2078
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean a big platform, you know McDonald

2079
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:47,559
Speaker 2: McDonald's a big brand.

2080
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 4: That ain't good food though, so.

2081
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 1: It's like just readily available.

2082
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 4: It's just yeah, it's just like that don't mean that's

2083
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 4: good for you.

2084
01:35:57,720 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 1: And you know, I always talk about them guys being

2085
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 1: first people to do it. It ain't that they were chosen.

2086
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 1: They were just here first. They just had a camera first,

2087
01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 1: had understanding the YouTube first, and so the they're familiar

2088
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 1: to people. These guys don't have any context to anything.

2089
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,040
Speaker 1: They don't have any real equity in the culture.

2090
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 5: What what what?

2091
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 4: What is what through a lot of these dudes. What

2092
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:22,799
Speaker 4: are they bringing?

2093
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 1: What are they doing? The game? You're getting what you're

2094
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 1: pulling from it?

2095
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 2: And again I just don't I don't like when you know,

2096
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:32,120
Speaker 2: motherfuckers sit down and bring a lot of negative ship

2097
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 2: because we come from that man and and that ain't

2098
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:41,439
Speaker 2: nothing to play with. That ain't nothing to try to

2099
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 2: you know, throw fuel on that fire, because you know

2100
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's just not it's not something that

2101
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 2: I want to even.

2102
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 4: Try to entertain because it's just I know what that is,

2103
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:54,680
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

2104
01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 2: So that's why I said, when you know, I heard

2105
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:59,799
Speaker 2: a lot of these dudes talking greasy, I don't understand

2106
01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:02,759
Speaker 2: it because it's like, number one, I don't talk greasy

2107
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 2: about y'all right, and then number two, I don't play

2108
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:08,520
Speaker 2: that game because.

2109
01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:12,680
Speaker 4: If I see you now it's supposed to happen, right.

2110
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:15,719
Speaker 2: I don't know how to gauge this thing, like because

2111
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 2: now if I go to a place where you're like nah,

2112
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:21,840
Speaker 2: but it was just I'm like, but I don't know

2113
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:23,960
Speaker 2: that because I don't play like that. I'm fron of

2114
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 2: somebody talking about, you know, suck my dick and all

2115
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:26,799
Speaker 2: this other.

2116
01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 1: You going five, it's like, bro, you But see if

2117
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 1: there's an old saying that people who never tasted war

2118
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 1: always want to get it going. See, they ain't never

2119
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 1: had to deal with the results of that exactly, They

2120
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:43,040
Speaker 1: ain't never had to lay in their bed, so they

2121
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 1: instantly want to Oh man, Like I was just seeing

2122
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:48,720
Speaker 1: they put rappers against each other, and it's just it'd

2123
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:50,640
Speaker 1: be so much ship. I'd be like, yo, they can

2124
01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 1: go to war man somebody.

2125
01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you at the house and you're playing Game Switch

2126
01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:59,680
Speaker 2: ten hours a day. I don't understand it, and that's

2127
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 2: why can't I can't support that.

2128
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:01,720
Speaker 1: Now.

2129
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 4: I'm happy that a black man is able to, you know,

2130
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 4: make a living right and support his family.

2131
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 1: Support it.

2132
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:11,200
Speaker 4: So but at what costs, right.

2133
01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:13,759
Speaker 1: And get around some niggas to get some game because

2134
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:16,559
Speaker 1: you bullshitting and you done had all this audience. Ain't

2135
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 1: done nothing with it. This man said they had a

2136
01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 1: podcast a year, granted they had a brand moving into it,

2137
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:24,679
Speaker 1: but they on tour, already been in the UK, probably

2138
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:27,280
Speaker 1: the sold x amount of shirts, this amount of product

2139
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:30,200
Speaker 1: on this amount of people on Patreon, that like it's

2140
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:32,759
Speaker 1: it's shit happened, and here you is with an audience.

2141
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 1: Ain't done nothing with it this seven year just sitting

2142
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:36,560
Speaker 1: there on Twitch drunk.

2143
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:38,200
Speaker 4: And still ain't and still can't come up as.

2144
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 1: A party in the industry building process. This a new industry.

2145
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:46,760
Speaker 1: Billionaires would be created, these niggas getting drunk. I don't

2146
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:49,040
Speaker 1: even get it. Bro speaking of that, look at yate,

2147
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 1: let's talk about that. What yay to me? It seemed

2148
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 1: like like I just tell you he trying to break

2149
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:58,280
Speaker 1: the chain. Yeah, Now how far did he go for that?

2150
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:01,680
Speaker 1: How much did he risk that? Is? Can he come

2151
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 1: back from that?

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01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:05,240
Speaker 4: See?

2153
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:09,640
Speaker 2: The thing is, and what I don't think Kanye, excuse me, ya,

2154
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:13,639
Speaker 2: I don't think what ye factored in is that Black

2155
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:17,760
Speaker 2: people we are so unorganized, we are so inorganized, and

2156
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:21,719
Speaker 2: I don't think that enough of us are gonna back

2157
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 2: Yay and support Yay. Right, you know, but he's kind

2158
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 2: of been all over the place with his message too. Yeah,

2159
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:32,200
Speaker 2: he's been a little all over because you know, I

2160
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 2: think Kanye Yay has this thing where he's I think

2161
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:38,519
Speaker 2: that he you know, I've always said it. I don't

2162
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:41,240
Speaker 2: think he's a mean spirited person. I don't think he's

2163
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 2: a hateful person. I just think that he's very emotional

2164
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 2: and I think that he speaks without any regard of

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01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:53,120
Speaker 2: who feels a type of way about it, right, And

2166
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:56,679
Speaker 2: I think that when you somebody that caters to the public,

2167
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 2: when you've made your richest off of selling to the public,

2168
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:04,640
Speaker 2: whether be clothing or you know, music or whatever, you

2169
01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:08,679
Speaker 2: have to factor in who you're hurting in the public

2170
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:14,680
Speaker 2: when when you speak. But I think that he has

2171
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:18,680
Speaker 2: made some valid points. I think that some of his

2172
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:21,639
Speaker 2: points I'm still trying to figure out and and understand.

2173
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 2: But again, I think the important part is, Uh, here's

2174
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:30,719
Speaker 2: a man who obviously feels some type of way about

2175
01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:33,040
Speaker 2: something about the way he's been treated, about the way

2176
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:39,280
Speaker 2: business is being done, the fact that his money is

2177
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:40,519
Speaker 2: no good in the bank.

2178
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, it was crazy.

2179
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:44,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I look at it like this, Right,

2180
01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:47,280
Speaker 1: we all need to be held accountable for days if

2181
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 1: we cross the line or do something.

2182
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:49,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's man ship.

2183
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's man ship. But at the same time, the

2184
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:58,960
Speaker 1: universe is perfect. So why they're canceling Kanye for being

2185
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 1: anti Semitican saying things that he shouldn't have said in

2186
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:04,840
Speaker 1: the eyes of those people that been through those things

2187
01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:07,960
Speaker 1: were on the other side saying But on Twitter, they

2188
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:11,600
Speaker 1: the word nigga usage is up five thousand percent. It

2189
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 1: ain't nobody in the uproar, So what does language matter?

2190
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:19,000
Speaker 1: Does it matter only on this side, or does it

2191
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:22,880
Speaker 1: matter like because listen, the same that we know the

2192
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 1: word nigga derives from us being disrespected. It ain't no

2193
01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 1: intend on that if it's up five thousand percent with

2194
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 1: no records over there, but him saying I'm going death come,

2195
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:36,160
Speaker 1: which is a trick word. If you ask me, you

2196
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:38,720
Speaker 1: ain't got no business saying that word. What the fuck

2197
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:42,880
Speaker 1: is defense readiness? How you gonna be defending and ready?

2198
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:45,439
Speaker 1: It just seemed like a I don't even use that word.

2199
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:47,559
Speaker 1: So him going in the trick bag with the word,

2200
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 1: or knowing what he was doing with the word, it

2201
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:53,400
Speaker 1: says to me, he offended them with that, but they

2202
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:58,200
Speaker 1: using nigga on Twitter and everybody quiet. It says to me,

2203
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:00,719
Speaker 1: what does language really matter?

2204
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:03,560
Speaker 2: But I think that's I think the important thing with

2205
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:08,160
Speaker 2: Yay is that he's starting a conversation about things that

2206
01:42:08,240 --> 01:42:10,639
Speaker 2: are happening, things that are going on, and I think

2207
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 2: that you know, sometimes again, when people don't want to

2208
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 2: address the issue, they'll play semantics with words and hold

2209
01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 2: on to certain words and move the focus. All right,

2210
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:25,679
Speaker 2: I understand that, But the focus of what he's saying

2211
01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:28,800
Speaker 2: he is addressing is this. I understand he may have

2212
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:31,840
Speaker 2: said some things that offended some people and that that

2213
01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 2: was wrong. Cool, we understand that, But let's get to

2214
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:41,880
Speaker 2: what he's really addressing here, Like key y'all proving his

2215
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:45,240
Speaker 2: point because y'all were able to take him from being

2216
01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:49,759
Speaker 2: worth eight nine billion to now with four hundred million,

2217
01:42:49,880 --> 01:42:50,679
Speaker 2: because y'all.

2218
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:53,120
Speaker 1: Said, so man, and that's so crazy, because you say

2219
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:57,000
Speaker 1: this what I noticed about Kanye, and it makes me

2220
01:42:57,240 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 1: really be like, wow, he still ain't panic in the

2221
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:03,519
Speaker 1: eyes of our public. Every time he come out in public.

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01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:08,240
Speaker 1: It's still be poker faith, you know, right, he knows

2223
01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:11,160
Speaker 1: something we don't, right, And so I said, damn, hold on,

2224
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:16,200
Speaker 1: he ain't panicking and he stood on status. He would

2225
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:18,320
Speaker 1: come around us. I'm the richest black man. I'm the richest.

2226
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:20,679
Speaker 1: I'm the richest. They snatched that and he didn't panic,

2227
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:24,960
Speaker 1: so they say something he stood on. But I also

2228
01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 1: understood that he would stand on status with us. But

2229
01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:29,799
Speaker 1: then when he talked to Piers Morgan, he would clarify,

2230
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:31,599
Speaker 1: I only got one hundred and twenty million in the bank.

2231
01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:34,600
Speaker 1: So he understood what he was doing when he was

2232
01:43:34,680 --> 01:43:38,439
Speaker 1: braggadocious and stood on their status. But by him not panicking,

2233
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:41,200
Speaker 1: says he has a plan. I don't know the plan.

2234
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:43,519
Speaker 1: I think he's trying to break the chain, but I'm

2235
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 1: not understanding. Even speaking of deals, Adidas is saying that

2236
01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:52,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna sell his shoe and not pay him. He

2237
01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 1: says in the contract, he's still supposed to get a

2238
01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 1: reduced rate. They gonna ignore the contract.

2239
01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:03,000
Speaker 2: Because they can. But see, this is what I'm saying.

2240
01:44:03,080 --> 01:44:06,519
Speaker 2: It's you know, bigger conversations to have. And that's what

2241
01:44:06,640 --> 01:44:09,120
Speaker 2: I think the ultimate thing of him doing all of

2242
01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:12,719
Speaker 2: this is is just to start having these conversations about

2243
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:15,639
Speaker 2: control and who has the control and who has the power,

2244
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:18,920
Speaker 2: and who are the creatives and who are the geniuses

2245
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:21,760
Speaker 2: and you know, we need to change some things, you

2246
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:23,600
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like if we able to have

2247
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:27,519
Speaker 2: all this influence and all of this creative control around

2248
01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:30,960
Speaker 2: the world and all the influence on culture, we should

2249
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 2: be you know, paid for it. We should we should

2250
01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:36,439
Speaker 2: have more ownership of it, we should have more rights

2251
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:39,760
Speaker 2: to it. And I think that's the ultimate uh gist

2252
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:43,080
Speaker 2: of his his his whole rant and the thing that

2253
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:44,880
Speaker 2: he's on right now is just you know, he's just

2254
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:48,439
Speaker 2: trying to wake people up to that, like, yeah, just

2255
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:50,599
Speaker 2: because they give you a hundred million, two hundred million

2256
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:56,240
Speaker 2: dollars to play this sport, you really generated six billion dollars.

2257
01:44:57,080 --> 01:45:00,280
Speaker 1: And Faara Kham made good points said, yo, when they

2258
01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:02,639
Speaker 1: say you're big and and you really ain't, you don't

2259
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:04,360
Speaker 1: even see that money. They give you a whole bunch

2260
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 1: of money you don't you can't touch, so they can't

2261
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 1: take it like that, right, they can just press a

2262
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 1: button and now you three hundred meters, they can just

2263
01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 1: take it. That ship is wild man.

2264
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:16,200
Speaker 2: It's wicked, man, we really think about it. It's some,

2265
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:19,600
Speaker 2: it's some, it's some, it's you know again, that's you know,

2266
01:45:19,720 --> 01:45:20,280
Speaker 2: that's that's.

2267
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 4: A little further up the poll, like we ain't there yet,

2268
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:24,679
Speaker 4: but I coming, Oh, no, for sure.

2269
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 2: And and I love the fact that just these conversations

2270
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:32,040
Speaker 2: are starting because why not. Let's you know, and and again,

2271
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:35,080
Speaker 2: you know, when people don't want to have certain conversations

2272
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:38,560
Speaker 2: because certain truths shall be revealed, right, you know, But

2273
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:39,559
Speaker 2: when you're on the side.

2274
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 4: Of the truth, you want to have those conversations.

2275
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 1: You want to say, Yo, let's have them on your camera,

2276
01:45:44,360 --> 01:45:46,760
Speaker 1: your camera, let's have in front of your people on

2277
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:48,000
Speaker 1: your side of the street.

2278
01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:48,600
Speaker 4: Let's have it.

2279
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 1: And then let's make it right, right, and let's grab

2280
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:53,639
Speaker 1: the information out of it, because we lead in the whole.

2281
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:55,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, we lead, and let's learn from it.

2282
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:58,400
Speaker 1: Like I'm I understand, I'm leading. That's why when I

2283
01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:00,800
Speaker 1: had these conversations. I have them from from that perspective

2284
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:02,599
Speaker 1: because I know I was on the other side when

2285
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:05,560
Speaker 1: he was saying Spotify on. I'm like screaming at the

2286
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:10,320
Speaker 1: screen like them niggas want to be paid. Yeah, m like,

2287
01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:12,679
Speaker 1: like I say, you could be screaming at your mother

2288
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 1: about something and your girlfriend say, ain't no way, I'm

2289
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:20,439
Speaker 1: mad in him, right, He'll treat he. Yeah, you see

2290
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:22,959
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So when you say fuck a contract

2291
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting next to you can't get accounting, it's

2292
01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 1: saying damn it. Saying fuck a contract. I know it

2293
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:31,519
Speaker 1: ain't meant for me, but it applied to me.

2294
01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:34,280
Speaker 2: It applies to me because I'm in it. Yeah, like

2295
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:35,920
Speaker 2: I think I said, you know, it's nothing that is

2296
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:36,599
Speaker 2: by accident.

2297
01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:36,840
Speaker 4: Man.

2298
01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:40,400
Speaker 2: Everything is uh, everything has its beautiful purpose, you know

2299
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:42,840
Speaker 2: what I mean. So I just you know, I learned

2300
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:45,640
Speaker 2: from everything. Everything is a learning a learning process for me.

2301
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 4: I love learning.

2302
01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:49,680
Speaker 2: I love getting new information, you know, and I just

2303
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 2: like applying it and moving forward and just growing and

2304
01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:54,479
Speaker 2: watching myself. What do I look like a year from now?

2305
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:57,280
Speaker 1: Man? Y'all winning, y'all show winning.

2306
01:46:57,080 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 2: We building, man, We we more importantly, we just We

2307
01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:03,240
Speaker 2: just growing man, as men, be growing as a as

2308
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:07,280
Speaker 2: a I me and our families, you know what I mean,

2309
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:10,800
Speaker 2: you know, just doing things we never thought we would do.

2310
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:12,920
Speaker 2: You know, I never thought that people would be waiting

2311
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:15,000
Speaker 2: for me in London, you know what I mean. Like

2312
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:18,559
Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a hoptown New York man. Like yeah,

2313
01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:21,280
Speaker 2: like I just you know, it's it's it's a humbling experience, man,

2314
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:25,880
Speaker 2: a beautiful experience. But you know, it's just it's just

2315
01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:29,360
Speaker 2: part of what I always knew, you know what I mean,

2316
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:33,120
Speaker 2: as far as like just staying solid, uh, you know,

2317
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:36,760
Speaker 2: standing on principals, standing on morals, being a being a

2318
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 2: good person.

2319
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:40,439
Speaker 4: And that's gonna resonate with somebody somewhere, you know what

2320
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:40,720
Speaker 4: I mean.

2321
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:43,280
Speaker 2: And it may not turn into you know, a hundred

2322
01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:46,479
Speaker 2: million views, but you know, if it turned into seven

2323
01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:50,519
Speaker 2: hundred people in the theater in London, I'm happy, man.

2324
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:52,599
Speaker 4: You want, Yeah, I want I'm happy.

2325
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:55,600
Speaker 1: Man. I appreciate you coming back, man, I appreciate you

2326
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:56,280
Speaker 1: reaching out.

2327
01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:56,559
Speaker 5: Man.

2328
01:47:57,000 --> 01:47:59,240
Speaker 4: You know, I'm glad we finally got got a chance

2329
01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:01,479
Speaker 4: to connect. Love what you're doing. Brothers.

2330
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 2: You know, anytime you need anything from me, my platform

2331
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:08,320
Speaker 2: is your platform, and you know, just keep doing what

2332
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:11,600
Speaker 2: you're doing, because it's important to have real individuals in

2333
01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:14,400
Speaker 2: this space and in this culture that are doing and

2334
01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 2: saying the right things but also standing on it, you

2335
01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:19,080
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So when I see see brothers

2336
01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:21,760
Speaker 2: like yourself doing things like that, you know I'm gonna

2337
01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:23,639
Speaker 2: pull up no matter what you see. I came straight

2338
01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:26,960
Speaker 2: to you by myself, you know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, that.

2339
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:31,080
Speaker 1: Man, whenever, whenever, Man, you know I'm dead whenever. Y'all

2340
01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:34,080
Speaker 1: the show you're coming out tomorrow, Man, We're gonna have

2341
01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:37,439
Speaker 1: some fun to maw. I appreciate you coming out, man,

2342
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:42,479
Speaker 1: Experienced Podcast, do something with that game it Yo, what up?

2343
01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:46,320
Speaker 1: It's Big Loan, It's the Experienced Podcast. Tune in.

2344
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:48,960
Speaker 4: Skid it.

2345
01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:54,200
Speaker 1: Hey, it's your boy looned for myself that podcast. Thank

2346
01:48:54,280 --> 01:48:56,800
Speaker 1: you for watching the video you just watched, and make

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01:48:56,840 --> 01:48:59,160
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01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 1: the screen. I'll go to the next video by hitting

2349
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:05,160
Speaker 1: this right here you see on the screen. Biggest up

2350
01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:05,679
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