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Speaker 1: is that thing? Welcome back to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas and

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Speaker 1: I am joined by Room Felder, heroes, Colleen Wolf, Chris

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Speaker 1: Westling and Greg ros What's up? Boys and girl? Hey? Dan?

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Speaker 1: what's hey, how's it going? Um? I'm okay, I'm not

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Speaker 1: worried about you Las Vegas flu. You know, I think

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Speaker 1: I got sick in Vegas. Was it because of spice Rack?

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Speaker 1: Spice Rack? Yeah? First of all, spice Rack Chris Westling's

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Speaker 1: It's always going to have a star quarterback whenever they're

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Speaker 1: intriguing human beings. However, whenever there's a coaching staff and

425
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Speaker 1: we see this on Hard Knocks a lot trying to

426
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Speaker 1: talk itself into two crappy quarterbacks. He saw the last

427
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: summer was it's always fun. It would be like that'll

428
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Speaker 1: be the title of one of the Hard Knocks episodes,

429
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: making a case for case, a lot of nice, a

430
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: lot of less sneed hair shots get behind the scenes there.

431
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Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't mention it in theough. I didn't

432
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: just works off headline so the Hard Knock Show, I

433
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Speaker 1: didn't mention it in the post um. But you know,

434
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Speaker 1: maybe maybe the first couple of um of Hard Knocks

435
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 1: this year will be less sneed in former NFL network

436
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 1: anchor Kara Henderson's need. I mean one of the hosts

437
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: of Total Access for years. Yes, she's married to the

438
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Speaker 1: general manager. That that seems like fun. Let's get her

439
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Speaker 1: on the show. But I can't wait for that. Greg,

440
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: I think you're more excited about really oversold that one,

441
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: just saying all right, now it's time to do it

442
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 1: now after Hard Knocks, that's a segment we're going, uh.

443
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Speaker 1: And to do that, we gotta speak with Mark Sessler,

444
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 1: who is UH at an airport. Which airport is a Mark?

445
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: I'm at the Miami Airport, and I've just been physically

446
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: moved out of the way two seconds ago by two

447
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: US Customs agents. So, uh, this needs to be rather brief,

448
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 1: but uh, this is the closest airport I've ever seen

449
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: in l a X in terms of what you just texted, Hey,

450
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 1: can we do it now? So I thought we'd call

451
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: you up right now, let's do it. What is the

452
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 1: scene just you know, since you're on the scene of

453
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Speaker 1: those terrorist attacks of yesterday, is it increased security at

454
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Speaker 1: the airport. I don't have a full read on that.

455
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 1: I'm just through security on people. They're just lounging and

456
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: reading books. Actually a guy eating an apple, So I

457
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Speaker 1: don't think there's a lot of paranoia happening. He said

458
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Speaker 1: it was the worst cab ride ever on the way there.

459
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Speaker 1: It's going to be when the NFL finds out how

460
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Speaker 1: much it costs to is about a hundred and sixty.

461
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Speaker 1: So good luck getting that reimbverse. Oh, it's gonna get reimbursed.

462
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: Let's not have any questions about that, all right. So

463
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Speaker 1: the last time we talked to you, Mark, it was

464
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Speaker 1: before anything had really happened at the annual meeting. But

465
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,959
Speaker 1: now everything has happened everything. It's a different NFL than

466
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Speaker 1: it was when we woke up two days ago. So

467
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Speaker 1: let's get into some changes uh that, and we'll start

468
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Speaker 1: with some rules. First up, touchbacks, Now, um, you put

469
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Speaker 1: one in the end zone? Uh twenty five yard line

470
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Speaker 1: not the twenty yard line? And what we're what's what

471
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Speaker 1: are you hearing about this mark? What was the buzz

472
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Speaker 1: in and around the facility because it was uh some

473
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Speaker 1: of controversial when it was announced. Well, I think it's

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Speaker 1: the only thing that I kept hearing, and I know

475
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Speaker 1: that this is a rule that has Gregg very fired

476
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Speaker 1: up based on what I was listening Greg chat about earlier.

477
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Speaker 1: But they it seems as if some people feel like

478
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Speaker 1: it would promote safety or not promote safety. That was

479
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Speaker 1: some of the scuttle, But I don't think it was

480
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Speaker 1: a rule that like brought the house down from where

481
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Speaker 1: I was. It didn't get a lot of discussion, but

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Speaker 1: I think it's kind of a game changer and some

483
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Speaker 1: The one thing about this week's rules in general, they

484
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Speaker 1: advertisement is nothing really big happen, but some of the

485
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Speaker 1: some of the proposals that went through, I think we're

486
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Speaker 1: quite interesting, especially the double ejection or the objection one

487
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Speaker 1: for two personal fouls that I know. Ian said that

488
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Speaker 1: that was a week ago that that was gonna that

489
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Speaker 1: was gonna pass, and so that that was the foundation

490
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Speaker 1: that But it seemed honestly there was people saying that

491
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Speaker 1: that would be issues to get that through. The people

492
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Speaker 1: didn't agree with that, and that's a big change. I

493
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: think that's an interesting, uh in interesting rules change. I

494
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Speaker 1: think it's interesting, But I don't know how many times

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Speaker 1: a year that will happen, and it's not there was

496
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Speaker 1: no call for it, there was no need for it. Well,

497
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Speaker 1: they basically are they're always just reacting to a big story,

498
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Speaker 1: and they're reacting to the Odell Beckham one. Whereas the touchbacks,

499
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Speaker 1: you know, that's happening whatever more than five times every game,

500
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Speaker 1: well more than that. And it seems curious to me

501
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Speaker 1: because and there's been articles about this already already. You know,

502
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: kickers have gotten so good. Now we're just gonna see

503
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of pop up kick that they

504
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: try to you know, jam it so it lands, you know,

505
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: between the goal line and the five yards sounds really hard,

506
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Speaker 1: by the way, it's something that they'll be able to do.

507
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Speaker 1: It does, but some teams already do Some teams already

508
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Speaker 1: do that on a regular basis. Not on a regular basis,

509
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: but I think they'll do it more now. Look, punters

510
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: are really good at what they do, and they can't

511
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Speaker 1: even put it between the tanyard on the ten yard

512
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Speaker 1: line in the goal line on a consistent basis. I

513
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Speaker 1: I just think it's it's I am a feeling it

514
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: only last one year, it's for it's a temporary reason.

515
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Speaker 1: And the committee they are doing it expressly for player safety.

516
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Speaker 1: They are doing it to reduce kickoffs. I never really

517
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Speaker 1: understood why they just keep trying to reduce kickoffs over

518
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Speaker 1: and over. If they hate it so much, just kill

519
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: it and you eliminate on sidekicks, and that changes the

520
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: outcome of exciting close games. And you are also greg

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Speaker 1: not as much as a traditionalist, it seems when it

522
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Speaker 1: comes to sports in general, where you're which isn't a shot.

523
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Speaker 1: But like to me, I if you take out all

524
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Speaker 1: that stuff, I would feel like it wasn't the same

525
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Speaker 1: game anything. I agree, So I want I'd rather them

526
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Speaker 1: search for ways to try to keep the kickoffs involved

527
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Speaker 1: rather than get rid of it. I think this will

528
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Speaker 1: have a big impact maybe I'm wrong, but I think

529
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of those high pooch kick

530
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: type of things. And and because special teams, coaches get

531
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Speaker 1: fired based on the average starting position the other teams

532
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Speaker 1: have in terms of field position, so they're gonna try

533
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: to do everything they can to get him inside. The

534
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: p A T rule is now uh in the books

535
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Speaker 1: for good that came out of the meetings. Uh So

536
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: obviously they like that the automatic objection rule passed. But

537
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: if you get two on sports on like conduct fouls

538
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: in one game, you're out of the game automatically. Over

539
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: under how many times that comes into play this season?

540
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: I will set it one and a half. I'll go over,

541
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Speaker 1: but only because I think it will be about two

542
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: or three. Okay, go over. Um. There's also now penalty

543
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: flags of you attempt to call time out when you

544
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,239
Speaker 1: don't have one. You gotta pay attention. You gotta keep

545
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: track of these things that will It was bizarre that

546
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't a penalty before. Why you know, the coaches

547
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: started just doing this. It feels like an Andy Reid

548
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: type thing, just like keep calling for time out you

549
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: don't have them anymore. Mark, I mean an in depth

550
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: breakdown of the I R boomerang adjustment. That's what is

551
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: actually most interesting, especially for you guys. Okay, Mark, give

552
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: me an in depth, nuanced, clear eye take on it. Well, now,

553
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: it means, I mean essentially that you can scan your

554
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: whole roster of players that are on I R and

555
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: kind of retroactively assign the boomerang to someone when they're

556
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: you know that they're going to be ready in time

557
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: versus you know, having to do it in August and

558
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: you're you're just sort of hoping that their recovery hits

559
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: on schedule, and it's not always the case. So I

560
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's a sense. It's just one

561
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: of these rules that's sensible. Um I R return made

562
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: sense to begin with, and they're kind of tweaking it

563
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: to make it more flexible and we give teams a

564
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: little bit more of a you know, a PERVW on

565
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: what they want to do with those players. A lot

566
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Speaker 1: of buzz about the term I are boomerang in Boca.

567
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: That catch all I like him. There was almost essentially

568
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: outside of me. I think including it in one tweet

569
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Speaker 1: zero buzz. Never give up, buddy, because the Geno coaster

570
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: nobody thought that would catch on either. Colleen, you, I

571
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: don't know how you thought. This is fascinating. Let's hear

572
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: why so I live about this one really pause, listen, though,

573
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: coaches don't have to be forthright about the seriousness of

574
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Speaker 1: the injuries. So for you guys, when you're writing all

575
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: of these posts, there's gonna be a lot of things

576
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: that are vague and you don't know if guys are

577
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: going to be out for the season or not. Because

578
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: coaches won't necessarily have to say that, they can mask things. Now,

579
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Speaker 1: So you that you're excited about that, No, I think

580
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: it adds a lot of when when you're wondering how

581
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: she's saying exactly, and and I think she's right. Patra

582
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: was the first to grumble about this. Patrick grumbles about

583
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: everything but right, but he was right on that. She said,

584
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Speaker 1: this is going to make our jobs annoying, right, and

585
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: it's not very clear on what these I are players

586
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: will be, what the deals with them. So that is

587
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,239
Speaker 1: such a Patrick I could see it in slack now

588
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: I missed the message, but he's like, this is this

589
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: is bulle sucks. I don't understand why they make it.

590
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: They're just gonna make it harder for us. It's on

591
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: his white board, and he's got a very deep masculine voice. Uh.

592
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: No more chop blocks. Uh everything okay? At the airport, Mark,

593
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, there's various sounds that I'm sure annoying the listener.

594
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, uh and uh finally Mark, before you go, Uh,

595
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: you were at the coach's breakfast, and we can we

596
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: can also talk a little about the coaching coaching breakfast.

597
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: But Jim John Harbaugh told reporters that Trent Richardson and

598
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: this is one of my favorite subplots of the summer

599
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: coming up unofficially is back. This is the longest courtship

600
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: for a scrub running back in the history of the

601
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: National Football League. Yeah. Well, I think you should be

602
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: a little concerned in because outside of the fact that

603
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: it was, the subtext was he's not in shape and

604
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: we need to get him in shape. You know, that's

605
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: a total wild card. Man. They sound committed to this guy.

606
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: He's going to get it. Lead one carry, one snap,

607
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna owe me two sandwiches. And it's

608
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens of all teams that helps me win

609
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: this long lasting wager you're going down. It certainly would

610
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: be ironic if the Ravens helped you out. But I

611
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: don't know. That just seems like they almost have like

612
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: a comically large prop carrot that they're dangling just to

613
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,719
Speaker 1: keep him fit through the spring and into the summer,

614
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: to maybe get the training camp, maybe maybe sign a

615
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: contract event, maybe make it past a couple of rounds

616
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: of cuts. I still feel good. Here's why Dan should

617
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: be a little concerned. The Ravens have a history because

618
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: of their general manager of helping Alabama players back into

619
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: the league, Lando McClane. They took a flyer on him

620
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: twice because Ozzie Knewsom has that Alabama connection, and John

621
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: Harball also said, hopefully no one will come in and

622
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: swoop him away from us. Oh yeah, I think I

623
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: can I offer a counter. Um uh, you know they

624
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: like to help out Albound players who can play football.

625
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: That's a fair point. I'm okay. You know, no offense,

626
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: t Rich former first round pick, all right, Mark anything else?

627
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: Who who is your favorite people at the two coaches breakfast?

628
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: If people are if people are familiar, that's a whole

629
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: hour's worth of of, you know, time you have with

630
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Speaker 1: any coach. You want back to back Daisy of the

631
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: a f C one day, the NFC the next. I

632
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: felt like what happened both days was that the people

633
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: that you think that you'd want to sit down next

634
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: to and would be the most interesting were because Arians

635
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Speaker 1: was an absolute star this morning. He showed up twenty

636
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: minutes earlier. A lot of these coaches, you know, they're hungover,

637
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: they don't even do this thing. They roll in, you know,

638
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: with their PR person pulled them by the neck. But

639
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: Arians rolled in twenty minutes early, sat right down with

640
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: a huge plate of food and just started talking to

641
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: people at the table. And I, luckily was I had

642
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: picked him first. He was great, very in four amative. UM.

643
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: I thought Mike Tomlin was fascinating from the a f

644
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: C side. You know, he's not always I don't think

645
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: loved these breakfasts, but he seemed to really be into

646
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: it this time, and he was just shooting from the hip,

647
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: and so you know, it was it was excellent access

648
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: after a week that is really tough for access. It's

649
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: really you feel like bothering these guys to ask them

650
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: the one question while they're on vacation with their wife

651
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: and kids. It just it's an awful feeling. Um as

652
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: what you bring up the wife and kids asked more

653
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: than any journal in the VISs. I'll tell you it's

654
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: it's definitely you feel intrusive and it's not a great

655
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: feeling part of um What another question or maybe if

656
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: anybody else has one? Shoot? But were you, by any

657
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: chance was it one of the your recorders that Bill

658
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: Belichick pushed away like a bug during his practice availability. No,

659
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: I I didn't get close to Belichick. I think that

660
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: I I was sort of watching from afar um and

661
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: it was actually I think one of the larger someone

662
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: tried to stick one of those big television uh microphonest one,

663
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: it wasn't night in his face, come on right, I

664
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: think he I think he was annoyed by the fact

665
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: that he was just swarmed by human beings. He didn't

666
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: want to be there, and he I thought it was

667
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: funny what he did. Mark, did you did you eat breakfast?

668
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: I know you're not big on food. Oh man, you

669
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: can't eat. They call it a breakfast, but the all

670
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: you do is you grab, you know, a scrap of

671
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: food after you've done your works. You can't anyone maybe

672
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: a beat writer who wants to see with the same

673
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: coach for an hour. You can sit down with like

674
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: a big plate of eggs and whatever else they're serving,

675
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: but you're a bone from table to table. The last

676
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: thing that you want to do strategically to sit down

677
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: and start like plowing through like a forty minute breakfast.

678
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: I mean, otherwise, why send that person there? Well, Mark

679
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: Austin doesn't like food, so that's that's accurate. Mark, was

680
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: it your idea to do the post on uh ten

681
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: different head coaches? You asked what they would be doing

682
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: if they weren't football coaches. I thought that was a

683
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: very interesting read. Well, thank you. I just came up

684
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: with it kind of on the way because with the

685
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: NFC breakfast so late in a week, there just wasn't

686
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: a lot of hot takes breaking news to come. It

687
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: didn't seem like and so it was an easy way

688
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: to kind of ask one question of even some of

689
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: the less interesting coaches and then move on. And I

690
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: didn't know if it would come together or not. And

691
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: you know, I think these are interesting guys, but I

692
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: thought most of them said they wanted to do like

693
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: construction workers or like do the It was it's like

694
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: they're big, huge dudes. You forget that these like Doug Peterson,

695
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 1: it's just giant. They're just giant people. And it makes

696
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: sense that they weren't a coach. They'd be you know,

697
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: like cutting down trees or like breaking down walls. That

698
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: makes a little sense to like if they would go

699
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: something they think they'd be good at, but also not

700
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: a ton of like responsibility beyond themselves and maybe their family.

701
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: It's probably stressful being a head coach. That makes sense. Yeah,

702
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: I mean they you know, they're paid well enough to out,

703
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: you know, deal with the stress until they get can

704
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: But I most of them seem happy in March. We'll

705
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: find out where they are in September. Right. Check out

706
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 1: that piece that Mark Sessler wrote. A lot of pieces

707
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: that Mark Sessler wrote. Uh, Yeoman's work and now he

708
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: has to come back to us. Um so sorry about that, Mark,

709
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: but uh, good job in boker a tone and we'll

710
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: see you on the other side. All right. I love

711
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: you guys, fight. I love you too. Uh, let's move on.

712
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, his agent, is wondering why the Buffalo Bills

713
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: are not reaching out and being aggressive in talks. I

714
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: mean the Bills have had bad quarterback play for years,

715
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: but uh guess what they seem to be more than

716
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: willing to let Taylor play out the final year of

717
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: his deal. Um, here is what the agent said, Ads Bakari.

718
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: It's the bills is prerogative to do what they want

719
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: to do as it relates to Tyrod Taylor or any

720
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: other Bills player. Fortunately, there are thirty one other teams

721
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: that have watched and we'll be watching Tyrod. Uh. Well,

722
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: I don't blame the Bills, right, I mean, he had

723
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: a nice season, but he got beat up a little bit.

724
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: They didn't. It wasn't like he blew the doors off

725
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: the league. Why waited out? There's a lot to unpack here.

726
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: I think one of the things that stands out the

727
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: Bills have placed the higher priority on extending Stephen Gilmore,

728
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: a cornerback than Tyrod Taylor. And like you said, well,

729
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: you've got a six ft one, slightly built, scrambling quarterback

730
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: with a high sack rate. He's an injury risk. He

731
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: lost time to an MCL spring last year and during

732
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: that time, one source on the Bills told rap Sheet

733
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: E J. Manuel has a chance to make this a

734
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: quarterback battle. And we're talking about E J. Manual, So

735
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: to me that that's really reflective of what they think

736
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 1: of Tyrod Taylor right now. I know they want him.

737
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: One big question they have about him is he never

738
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: uses the middle of the field. He's a scrambling quarterback

739
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: who goes down the field into the sidelines, but the

740
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: whole area in the middle of the field a lot

741
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: of times where Sammy Watkins is running slants and crossing routes,

742
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor doesn't see him. That's like the opposite of

743
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 1: what you find most quarterbacks weaknesses are usually a limited

744
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: quarterback like a Mark Sanchez for instance. He's great going

745
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: up the seems not so much to the outside. I

746
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: love Tyrod Taylor, but he's in a bad spot here.

747
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: He is under contract for one million dollars this year.

748
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: It is it is. You do have to question like

749
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: the fairness of it, and maybe they can come up

750
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: with some sort of solution where he gets a bump

751
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: this year and they don't really think about a long

752
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: term extension, or they come up with something where it's

753
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: got an option and then his salary goes way up.

754
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: Because it's a little crazy to be a sixteen game

755
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: starter type of guy and get paid one one million

756
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: at this point when you're when you're a veteran, I mean,

757
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: you can understand why I'd be upset. And yet he

758
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: he doesn't really have anything you can do. He's not

759
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: gonna he's ta gonna hold out. Yeah, And Doug Whaley,

760
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been pretty open about the fact that

761
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: they're keeping it a possibility that they would maybe draft

762
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: a quarterback if that came about, if they liked the

763
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: options that were there. But I mean, you see that

764
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: he's not tied to him at all. Well, and here's

765
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: the thing, like, if you're I understand, if you're the agent,

766
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: you're trying to get your guy Paige, trying to paid yourself.

767
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: But if if Tyron Tell is as good as the

768
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: agent seems to think he is, he has another big

769
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: year this year, he's gonna get all the money in

770
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: the world next year, whether it's from the bills or

771
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: the franchise tags. To say that he's ultimately doing doing

772
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: a job that he wasn't paid, he didn't get signed for,

773
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: that he didn't get hired for. He got hired to

774
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: essentially be a number two or three quarterbacks. Are you

775
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: gonna hold out because you had one decent year. No,

776
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: but you push as hard as you can to get

777
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: more money this year. I know some other people were

778
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: hired to do jobs there, and yet and yet we're

779
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: coming down on that that he shouldn't do it there.

780
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: It is, folks, we should get like a right that.

781
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: My whole point was was trying to set that up,

782
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: but doing even to go over every Everyone's said, I

783
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: got it. Yeah, yeah, like a Diger for West Salary gripe.

784
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: It's good. Um. In other news, Aaron Rodgers was on

785
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: Pete Holmes is one of my favorite comedians in the world,

786
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: you know a little Yeah, not not so much as

787
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: a stand up but I do remember he had his

788
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: late night show and I've listened to his podcast, uh

789
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 1: once or twice. Yes, Pete Holmes has a podcast called

790
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: You Made It Weird, UH, where he has a lot

791
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: of in depth interviews with celebrities and uh every once

792
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: in a while. An athlete professional athlete Aaron Rodgers was

793
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: on the show UH this Uh that came out this week,

794
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: a two hour sit down with Rogers and UH. Within

795
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: the first ten minutes of their conversation, Aaron Aaron Rodgers Uh,

796
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: dipped into a deep dive. I wish this is a

797
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: perfect Settler story. I wish he was here for this,

798
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: but a deep dive on a UFO sighting in New Jersey,

799
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: Uh in two thousand five. Uh. He likened it to

800
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: Independence Day with the with the flying saucer or the

801
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: spaceship coming in like a ball of fire, almost through

802
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: the clouds, uh, moving left to right, a large orange

803
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 1: object and then a S fighter jets scrambling and this

804
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: is an exact quote, and Brandon, I'm sorry, but I'm

805
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: just reading a quote, buddy. Uh. And then it goes

806
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: out of sight and we look at each other and

807
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: what is that? Now? I want everyone to know he

808
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: was on a comedians podcast. However this was he said

809
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: it with a totally straight tone. Uh. And this is

810
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: something he believes happened. Are you guys believers? Is my question?

811
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: In UFOs West will start with you. I have actually

812
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: sent Greg a long text about something similar to this before.

813
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: UFO is a broad term unidentified flying O. If I

814
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: was convinced I saw an alien spacecraft from another planet,

815
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: I think my world would tip over and I couldn't

816
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 1: hang on. Football wouldn't mean anything I'd probably end up

817
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: being a homeless person. I don't think I could. I

818
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: would question everything meaningful to me at all. It would

819
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: be a real trip to find out for sure, I

820
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: know exactly what you're saying. All of a sudden things

821
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't be so important. But the answer West is no.

822
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: You're saying just because you can't imagine a world where

823
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: it's yes, no, I can't imagine it. I tend to

824
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: be I'm a skeptical person by nature, and I don't

825
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: really think that people are that smart, so I tend

826
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: to believe that most uf ufo sightings are bogus. So

827
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: a story, all right. My dad saw, he swears by it.

828
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: He was in the Air Force at the time. He's

829
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere in South Dakota, and he's

830
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: an air traffic controller, so they know the airspace. And

831
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: this was during Vietnam, and he has the radar in

832
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: front of him, and he said it was him and

833
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: one other guy in the tower and they both saw it.

834
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: And he said it was like a bright light and

835
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: it moved from one spot to the next to the next,

836
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: and then it was gone. And he said they both

837
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: looked at each other and my dad was like, did

838
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: you just see that? And the other guy was like,

839
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: I saw nothing, because obviously they would go to Vietnam

840
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: if they reported anything. He swears to this day it

841
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: was a UFO, the logic being if they reported it

842
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: to their superior they would be disciplined for being they

843
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: would jackals sent. So, yeah, I believe because he tells

844
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 1: the story so convincingly, and I don't think it's a story.

845
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's real. I think it happened. No,

846
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 1: I don't believe in anything. That's the most predictable answer. Well,

847
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: of course it's not. Who cares, it's you. There's a

848
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: lot of people believe a lot of things. And there's

849
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: like there's a million things that people try to come

850
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: up with explanations where where there is no explanation that

851
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: just because you can't come up with an explanation, you

852
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: come up with you know, UFO is one of the

853
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 1: things I think that is the probably the most curious

854
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: about UFO things. It's like they're all very similar. A

855
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: lot of it is very similar types of stories, which

856
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: are the same stories that we've seen on TV, like

857
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: bright lights and flash and things like that, leading the

858
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: witness and if I I tend to think if there

859
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: was anything like this happening out there, it would be

860
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: in a realm that wouldn't be so easily understood and

861
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: copied by everything totally. Also, you put the normal in paranormal. Yeah,

862
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: I think that there are certainly thousands of people that

863
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: claim to have seen Uh, don't feel bad. I'm not

864
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: saying he finished finish, but you're asking me to come

865
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: down one s atrea other. I also and by the way,

866
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: West still hasn't answered um. I think so we're getting

867
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: back to Chris. I think it's naive to think that

868
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: we are the only like high level species in the universe.

869
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: So I think, yes, there's something out there. And I

870
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: think when I was a kid, I, me and my

871
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: cousins thought we would see UFOs every other month, But

872
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: that was because you wanted to see it, all, Right,

873
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: West a believer? Yes or no? Is there life beyond

874
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: this realm? I think you're right that it's it's foolish

875
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: to think that we're the only intelligent beings out there.

876
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: And my thing is, why would they be in a

877
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: spacecraft just because human minds thought up this thing? Right?

878
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: Why couldn't they be traveling in their own beings. I mean,

879
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: I don't like space crafts are a human construction quest

880
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: answer the question? Do I? What is the question to

881
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: you believe in intelligent life beyond? They often text pictures

882
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: of this too. This appears on text chains a lot

883
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: Aliens and you telling your perfect stand in. That's true

884
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: for Sessler because we know what his answer would be.

885
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: So of the podcast, anything is possible, but you're talking

886
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: very specifical, specific sort of UFO with that. Oh, Brandon,

887
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: where do you stand? Oh, I'm solely on team Pauline,

888
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: Team Dan. Look at that. Yeah, they're out there. I

889
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: think it out. Yeah, I want to believe they're listening

890
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: right now. I think they are listeners of the connecting.

891
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: If there's any advertisers in the universe, if there's like

892
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: a planet's all time, please reach out to our advertising

893
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: zag sporting goods, other other planets, like they're the alien's

894
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: planet's always used letters. We don't a lot of x

895
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: is and they're they're really into that good week. I

896
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: think this could be its own podcast, It could be

897
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: on the Theology podcast, because I think there's a connection

898
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: here between my lack of belief and you know anything. Um,

899
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: you're a nihilist. I'm not a nihilist, but I wasn't

900
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: raised with any religion, so you know it so that

901
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: it gives you a different bantage. You're not gonna kind

902
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: of think things are possible. This is a good topic,

903
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: Damn well chosen. Yeah, we are off the rails. Yeah, well,

904
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: you know that's just like your opinion man eight o'clock

905
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: to light. Roger Goodell said at the annual meeting that

906
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots, despite that beautiful handwritten letter from Robert Kraft,

907
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: they are not getting their first round pickback. Greg. Well,

908
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: they can't get their respect back either from a lot

909
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: of fans of how they've handled this. Ohoa, nice working

910
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 1: with you, Greg. Ben McAdoo, we're going to welcome Tom

911
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: Coughlin into the facility. This to me, it's one of

912
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: the silliest stories. And sometimes Tom Tommy boy, come back

913
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: to us. Ben mcno is a young man trying to

914
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 1: establish himself as the coach of the New York Giants.

915
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: Stay out of the facility even for a couple of years.

916
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: There's plenty of great Jim's in the suburbs of Jersey.

917
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure West We're gonna fire you, but you're welcome

918
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: to come take a hike? Was called from I tell

919
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: him to take a hike. I love it. He's just

920
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: making it awkward, I know. Tred Balki says, there's no

921
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: one called for Colin Kaepernick. There's no trade even close

922
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: to happening. Greg, what's gonna happen? Nothing stays with a

923
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 1: forty niners? The hatred is real. He's gone. The Bears

924
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: signed Josh Hill to an offer sheet. Who's getting excited

925
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: probably Mark Sessler because he's making a leave. Article might

926
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: finally mean something, Jake Cutler. Maybe Ryan's Tanne how much

927
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: time we got? Frendon money? He doesn't know. He just

928
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 1: threw his hands off supposed to be it's a lot tons. Yeah,

929
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: But when you put two arms up like a field

930
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: goal is good? What does that mean? That's good? I

931
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: mean you got time on the other day? Wait, what

932
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: put the chisels down? What did? What was that? I

933
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: will allow to you. I have no idea. I exported

934
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: it over and it looked like it had tons of room. Huh.

935
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: So you sorry, Tannehill. You fooled me into thinking that

936
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: we had a ton of time. I fooled myself. Okay,

937
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: we've we've talked too much about Ryan Tannehill on this podcast. Anyway,

938
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: I just want to say, Ryan, let me guess they're

939
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: gonna let him call plays more this year and the

940
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: people believe in him. Adam Gaze has my back. Enough, man,

941
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: how many boogeymen does the Ryan Tannehill need? You know?

942
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 1: There's many. As Sam Bradford, it must have been really

943
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: bad with Joe philipin if he's like this new guy now,

944
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: I feel confident he never It seems like they never

945
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: got over well a they wouldn't let him call the play,

946
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: they didn't have a lot of belief in him. And

947
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: then be they tried to draft Derek Car. He wanted

948
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 1: to draft Derek car and they didn't do it. They

949
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: should have just done it, you know, Sam Bradford, though

950
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: us I'm being naive. There hasn't been a ton of

951
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: like pop about him throwing people under the bus and

952
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: things of that nature. Tannehill seems like there's a lot

953
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: of moves, a lot of behind the scenes put machinations

954
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: like this is his fault, this is his fault, this

955
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: is his fault. Remember you're saying he's more of a

956
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: Machiavlien character than Sam Bradford. Yeah, I think so. Sherman

957
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: philbin Uh Now he's got who's the Who's Quinn Quinn?

958
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: And now maybe Gays is the next guy of fall whatever,

959
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: He's the new Cutler. Sherman was his guy. Coach killer,

960
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill coach killer. Yeah, all right, before we go,

961
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: let's talk about it. We'll go cycle back now to

962
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: the rule changes. Let's share some changes that we would

963
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: enact that would make the NFL a better place in

964
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: and beyond. The Wolf Woman Connie Fox will start with you.

965
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: All right, death to excessive celebration penalties. I hate that rule.

966
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: I know it really doesn't change the outcome of the game,

967
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: but from an entertainment standpoint, I want that back in.

968
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: That was one of my favorite things. I mean, when

969
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: you think about all the great celebrations, when you think

970
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: about Chad Johnson picking up a pylon and putting the football,

971
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you think about Icky Shuffle, even that was

972
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 1: a celebration of sorts. I mean, there's so many great things,

973
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: and there's so many creative guys in the league, and

974
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: it really stinks that they can't celebrate. Think about how

975
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: silly this one particular rule that ties into what you're

976
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: talking about is you get a flag and then the

977
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: referee turns on his little mike and says excessive celebration.

978
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: Fifteen yard penalty for dropping to one knee for celebration

979
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: that is not in celebration of your religion. Like, this

980
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: is the type of stuff that we're talking about. Let

981
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: the person come on, loosen up and have group celebrations.

982
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: Mock people with a rowboat dance. I mean, bring the

983
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 1: electric slide is signing things back? When Antonio Brown hugged

984
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 1: the gods, they threw a flag on that. That was brilliant.

985
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: All right, West, you know where I'm going with this?

986
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: Well this Okay, let's set this up a little bit.

987
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: West one of the more vocal UH figures on Twitter

988
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: in the NFL sphere when it comes to being angry

989
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: about the league's and ability to not only just get

990
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: the catchable right, but to also like do something about it.

991
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: They're pretending like there's not a problem. So now West

992
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 1: is not here to complain about what's going on. He's

993
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: here to provide a solution. I thought I could set

994
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: it up with a bit of a background here. Okay,

995
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: go ahead. How were you in your backyard when your

996
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: father taught you how to catch? The old man three four?

997
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: The old man said, you gotta catch catch the football.

998
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: If it hits your thing, it hits your fingers, Danny,

999
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: that means you should have caught it, right And if

1000
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: it stays in your hands and you possessed the ball,

1001
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: you learn at a young age that's what it catches. Yes, right, Well,

1002
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 1: the NFL has taught people that that's not what it catches.

1003
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: Everything you know about catching an object, possessing it, it

1004
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You have to then turn and run. No, no, no, no,

1005
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: here's the rule. Catch the ball, possess it, don't juggle it.

1006
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: Possess it two ft down. You're a catch. That's a catch.

1007
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: Because they're like we're saying, there are plays where a

1008
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: guy will catch a ball, take two steps, get hit,

1009
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: have the ball on his person as he goes to

1010
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: the ground, then hit the turf and will pop out,

1011
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 1: and the ruling incomplete pass. And it's missing the logic

1012
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: of literally what it catches. It's undermining the game. There

1013
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: are people learning this game. They want to grow the game.

1014
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: In England and China, there are people learning the game

1015
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: in pubs where one guy is trying to bring the

1016
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: game to his friends and they're like, well, they just

1017
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: caught the ball and they called it not I'm not

1018
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 1: gonna watch this. I don't even want to go down

1019
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 1: this rabbit hole. But you still there's a million exceptions.

1020
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it does sound simple. But on one hand,

1021
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: I do sympathize a little bit with the NFL and

1022
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: the cat and I think if that if we if

1023
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: they took it all back and made it that simple ball,

1024
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: I think there would be examples of that would be

1025
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: a problem. First of all, you have to account for

1026
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: the diving catches. There would be there would be examples,

1027
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: but everyone would understand the rule and all this football

1028
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 1: move and this and that. I don't I don't care

1029
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: about any of that. I just want to know what

1030
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: a catch is and isn't. You will have more fumbles.

1031
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: That was used to be their primary concern, Well, that's

1032
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: part of the game. Fumbles happened. There were now about

1033
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: players safety, that more defensive backs will be teen off

1034
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: on a wide receiver to get him to drop the

1035
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: ball as soon as it hits his hands. To me,

1036
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 1: undermining the integrity of the game by not knowing what

1037
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: a catches. Not just fans, but players who devote their

1038
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: life to a coaches devote their life to it. Don't

1039
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: know what a catches. It's silly to me. Um, all right,

1040
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: I will throw scenario out there, and I'll set it

1041
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: up with the you know kind of a scenario. It's

1042
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: fourth and thirteen around midfield. A team, the team that's

1043
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: leading by three points is on defense. We're talking a

1044
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: big upset. They played such a great game. How much

1045
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 1: time is left. There's thirty seconds left, fourth and thirteen

1046
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: from midfield. Okay, they bring a blitzer. The blitzer comes

1047
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: at the quarterback. Great job getting to the quarterback, makes

1048
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback rushed to the throw incomplete pass. His arm

1049
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: swipes across gently across the quarterback's face mask. Outcomes the

1050
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: flag fifteen yard penety instead of the game being over

1051
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: fifteen yard penalty first down. The team, let's say it's

1052
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: the Patriots, is in field goal range. Game totally changed.

1053
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: And if you watch the replay, there was no real

1054
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 1: vicious hit to the head. It was incidental contact. If not,

1055
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: you know, no contact at all in the referee just

1056
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 1: missed because it's so fast. I'm not usually a proponent

1057
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: of more replay, but I think these and I think

1058
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: this is a rich eyes and uh he's pushed this

1059
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: as well for helmets, helmet hit contact for striking a

1060
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: defenseless receiver or a quarterback. Let's replay that and make

1061
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: sure make it reviewable, make it challengeable, and make sure

1062
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,479
Speaker 1: we're not game changing plays in a game that's moving

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00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: too fast. Doesn't we don't have a chance to take

1064
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: a look at it because it's costing teams every year.

1065
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: It happens on a week by week. I think of

1066
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 1: an example from a couple of years ago, forty nine Saints.

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00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 1: I think it was a mod Brooks on Drew Brees

1068
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: in the game drives me nuts. Have to be in

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00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: the game. Uh, well any time. What if it's the Jets, Uh,

1070
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: then then throw it out. But you know Smith as

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00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: the Jets quarterback, then uh, I don't want. I will

1072
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 1: not ride the Gino coaster. So is it it's within

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00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: two minutes kind of an end of game situation or

1074
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: and I think it. I think it's challengeable play. I agree,

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00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: I agree with everyone's rules, all right, So that puts

1076
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: more pressure on you to go. I got a couple

1077
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: of Let's start with the draft. I want a lottery.

1078
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: If you don't make the playoffs, you're not guaranteed to

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00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: get the number one pick just because you had the

1080
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: worst record. Wasn't what didn't become the biggest deal in

1081
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: the world. But what the Bucks did a couple of

1082
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: years ago shamelessly uh losing the game on purpose to

1083
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: get Jamis Winston was a travesty. I also think it's

1084
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: an out of the sucker for luck campaign. Who could

1085
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 1: forget right? They really did suck. And here's the other thing,

1086
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: it's exciting. It just makes it more fun. They're always

1087
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: try looking for ways to get more teams into it.

1088
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: You still have the best chance to have the ping

1089
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: pong balls come up. It's like the NBA if you

1090
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: have the worst record, but you're not guaranteed, and it

1091
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: just mixes it up a little bit more tank like

1092
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: Sam Hanky and the Sixers. No, this is anti tanking thing,

1093
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: but they tank all the time. I've seen the next

1094
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: NBA is a little different structure than the NFL in

1095
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. Um So I don't think. I

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00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: don't think taking is a huge, huge problem, but I

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00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: like the idea of a lottery. Anyways, they set up

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00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: this system back in the fifties to make to even

1099
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: out as much as possible, But I think today's NFL

1100
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: is different. It's so even doubt with with salary cap

1101
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: and everything. You're the number five, you know, maybe you're

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00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: in the five spot. Maybe you could move all the

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00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: way up and get your guy like that. I think

1104
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: about how exciting and this is while we'll probaly happened

1105
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: the NFL network live coverage of pound balls right like,

1106
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: the NFL doesn't want more of that kind. I mean,

1107
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: that would be a huge events. Five teams that could

1108
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: have the number one, and that Bucks thing sticks in

1109
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: my crime. It does me too, because I didn't think

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00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: they needed a lottery until then. But if you look

1111
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: at what the Eagles were offering, according to some reports,

1112
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: to number one picks, a third round pick, the best

1113
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 1: offensive player and their best defensive player for the number

1114
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: one pick in the draft. And that's what the Bucks

1115
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: were holding onto because of shenanigans in weeks seventeen, way

1116
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: more undermining the NFL in the flate gate. M M, yep.

1117
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: It still seems like too much. I don't believe that

1118
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: were offering, but that's that's another four for four. Greg,

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00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: you sure you want to give number five, because then

1120
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: you're messing with the boy just isn't even too I

1121
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: haven't even decided either either way. How about let this

1122
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: go for the full month, eliminate extra points, let's just

1123
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: get rid of it. Really got the two point conversion

1124
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: or nothing. Here's what I'm gonna say with that. If that,

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00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: if that's too bold for everyone in the NFL, that

1126
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: I've got my compromise solution, which is just move extra

1127
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: points back another ten yards and that that has some

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00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: of the intended effects. So kickers are on the roster

1129
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: to get touchbacks and to kick. It's up to teams

1130
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: how they want to use their roster. Kickers used to

1131
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: be quarterbacks when kicking. You know, if we're so worried

1132
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: about the tradition of football, you know, kickers wasn't even

1133
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: its own position back in the day. You know, interesting subject.

1134
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,439
Speaker 1: I'm on board, all right, you got me. Two point

1135
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: conversions are better there, It's a football think Usellison Wilson play.

1136
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: Come on now, I think I came around to the

1137
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: extra point being moved back a little bit, and if

1138
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: you move it back further then the kickers even a

1139
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: bigger part of the game. How about we get rid

1140
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: of the half measure and and make the two point

1141
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: conversion closer? Make a one yard line about two yard line.

1142
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: I think that's a good spot. That's about a fit.

1143
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: And really, dare these coaches to pass up that percentage play?

1144
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's all right, it's I think

1145
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: that's a workshop one. I'm I'm all for it, all right, Colleen?

1146
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: Are you going on? Greg's No one's buying tickets to

1147
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: watch extra points? It's drastic, it's a little I don't know.

1148
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: I gotta think about it. You sold me on the

1149
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: fact that kickers weren't always kickers. They weren't always specialist.

1150
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: Who says they have to be specially you can use

1151
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 1: you can use your wrath however you want. Plus plus

1152
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: kickoffs are important. Oh you know who isn't signing up

1153
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: for more two point conversions? I know it's true. I

1154
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: could be convinced. Well, Colleen, you've done it again. You've

1155
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: come on the show after a brief hiatus and knocked

1156
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: it right out of the park. Thanks, it's been great

1157
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: and we've all enjoyed your your company, and we hope

1158
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: that you'll be back against it. I hope so too,

1159
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: Thanks Dan, I give you an eight out of ten

1160
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: for day show. All right, that's fair? What alright? Eight

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01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: and a half. I'll take it. There's there's lots of

1162
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: room to improve here. Just like the Pod solid, I

1163
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: think what's that? I think it exceeded to be expectation.

1164
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: Maybe the pregrade was B and I'm the UFO discussion

1165
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: put it away less the the valiance UFO story. I'm

1166
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:33,919
Speaker 1: gonna have to give you a nine. Let's talk about

1167
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: it some more because I feel like I could get

1168
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: an A out of this anything. Eventually, any old man

1169
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: wolf stories are going to bump you up a half wolf.

1170
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: He is a delightful man um all right. So that's it.

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Speaker 1: We will be back with yet another show tomorrow Thursday,

1172
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: so make sure you check it out. By the way,

1173
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: go on iTunes. Give us the good old grade and

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01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: uh you know, i'd be easy to give us a

1175
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 1: B nice and leave some comments. That's right. We we

1176
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: should be asking for some reviews. That really helps us out.

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Speaker 1: So please, I like what you read the bad worm

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Speaker 1: sup toward us and as we support you, uh loyal listeners.

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01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 1: I don't know how we support you, but we do

1180
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: love you. Free podcast. This is Dan Hansas signing off

1181
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 1: for Connie Fox, the Mailman, the Boss, and the Irishman

1182
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: behind the glass. Pick up them chisels. Get back to

1183
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Speaker 1: our tells that really looking forward to my big fact

1184
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: great wedding to coming out soon. This do they have

1185
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: like a a TV series that they tried to spin

1186
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: off the first movie and that failed, and now they're

1187
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: trying to sequel off the movie. It's not a good

1188
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: way to do it. It's just like it's like twenty

1189
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: years later and she started in the TV show. It's like,

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01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: wait a second, didn't had a great seven episode run?

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Speaker 1: Seven episodes that even sounds like a lot