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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Rolling through the Friday edition of the program, will you're

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Speaker 1: joined now by Alaskan Senate candidate Kelly Shabaka. She is

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Speaker 1: running in the primary that will be going on. And

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Speaker 1: then I want to ask you about this, Kelly, because

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Speaker 1: I think it's kind of fascinating. I know we've got

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Speaker 1: a lot of listeners in Alaska, but you guys have

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Speaker 1: ranked choice voting, is my understanding, and a top four

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Speaker 1: end up being able to compete. How will that work?

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Speaker 1: What would you tell people who are listening to us

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Speaker 1: right now that want you to defeat Lisa Murkowski? How

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Speaker 1: should they rank going forward? What is the way that

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Speaker 1: the voting will exist there compared to what a lot

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Speaker 1: of times is different than a usual election. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: great to be with you, Thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: I'm calling in from Norvik, Alaska, which is on the

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Speaker 1: western an edge of our state, so we're like a

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Speaker 1: border state with Russia. So I'm hoping that the connection

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Speaker 1: stays great. As far as ranked choice this November, the

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Speaker 1: answer is really simple. The top four candidates will go forward.

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Speaker 1: Right now, it's basically a head to head with me

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Speaker 1: and Lisa Murkowski. We're both going to the general election.

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Speaker 1: The Democrat has dropped out, and don't know who the

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Speaker 1: other two candidates will be because there's nobody else's raised

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Speaker 1: more than several thousand dollars. The answer for everybody who

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Speaker 1: wants Kelly to win is put Kelly is number one,

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Speaker 1: and don't put anybody else. And I'm confident that we

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Speaker 1: have a really strong chance of winning. The Alaska Republican

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Speaker 1: Party has officially censured Murkowski. They did that before I

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Speaker 1: ever announced my candidacy. She is not allowed to use

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Speaker 1: the Republican name in her election. She's running to quote

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Speaker 1: keep Alaska independent, you know, like Bernie Sanders is independent,

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Speaker 1: and she's voting a majority of the time with Bernie Sanders.

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Speaker 1: Now and then, the Alaska Republican Party has endorsed me

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Speaker 1: as well as President Trump. I functionally am the Republican

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Speaker 1: nominee and Alaska always votes Republican in statewide elections. So

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Speaker 1: when it comes to this ranked choice business, if you

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Speaker 1: just vote Kelly and keep everything else blank, I'm confident

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Speaker 1: I will be the number one candidate. And the ranked

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Speaker 1: choice scenario, anybody else who drops off your ballot's still

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Speaker 1: going to count. We don't need to worry about anything else.

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Speaker 1: And so a pull that came out last week by

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Speaker 1: bright Bart says that in this ranked choice scenario, I

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Speaker 1: will win by two points currently and we still have

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Speaker 1: seven months to expand that lead. So it's looking really good. Kelly,

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Speaker 1: it's buck. I just want to say thanks for joining us,

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Speaker 1: and I've been very clear. I mean, I don't have

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Speaker 1: to do with some journalism. I'm not a journalist do

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Speaker 1: where they pretend not to support or not support one

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Speaker 1: or the other. For me, the Murkowski vote against Kavanaugh

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Speaker 1: is an unforgivable political sin. I'm just wondering if is

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Speaker 1: that what spurred you on to decide that Ki doesn't

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Speaker 1: really represent in any meaningful way the GOP and what

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Speaker 1: got you into this race? Why did you decide that

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Speaker 1: you wanted to do this? But that's definitely one that's

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Speaker 1: really high for many Alaskans. It's like she indicted him

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Speaker 1: simply for being male, and she opposed Kavanaugh. She Philibus,

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Speaker 1: ord Amy Coney Barrett, and then of course what the

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Speaker 1: heck did she do yesterday? And giving her full support

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Speaker 1: to this justice who bends over backwards to defend child

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Speaker 1: sex abusers and refuses to distinguish between two genders. For me,

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Speaker 1: it is really concerning as an Alaskan mom of five children.

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Speaker 1: But the vote that absolutely got me into this. I

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Speaker 1: am not a politician by background, even though I am

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Speaker 1: an anti swamp bureaucracy whisper. February twenty four, twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: I watched Lisa Murkowski cast the tie breaking vote to

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Speaker 1: advance the nomination of this radical environmentalist, Deb holland And

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Speaker 1: to be Biden's Interior Secretary, and she said, this will

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Speaker 1: to do it anyway. And she did this knowing that

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Speaker 1: Deb Holland planned to champion Biden's energy annihilating agenda, and

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Speaker 1: with that single vote, she killed thousands of oil and

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Speaker 1: gas and natural resource jobs across our state without feeling

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Speaker 1: it at all. But I felt it like a kick

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Speaker 1: But it was because of that oil job that they

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Speaker 1: So Lisa Markowski doesn't feel it, though, Buck, because her

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Speaker 1: dad literally appointed her to that Senate seat. She is

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Speaker 1: the product of Washington DC insiders and the political elite.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't depend on the resource industry in Alaska. She

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Speaker 1: doesn't know what it means to depend on other Alaskans.

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Speaker 1: But I owe everything to this state and to the

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Speaker 1: Alaskans who came around my family and gave us the

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Speaker 1: opportunities we had. When she killed all those jobs, I

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Speaker 1: just thought, she's not fighting for us. She's fighting to

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Speaker 1: be popular in DC. But who's looking out for all

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Speaker 1: of us Alaskans. I'm going to fight for the people

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Speaker 1: who fought for me. It's just that simple. Kelly, you

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Speaker 1: got an incredible bio. You got five kids. As you

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Speaker 1: just mentioned, your parents were homeless in Alaska for a time.

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Speaker 1: You were the first in your family to go to college,

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Speaker 1: and then you went on to Harvard Law School, What

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Speaker 1: was the cultural experience like for you to go from

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Speaker 1: at Harvard Law School. I went to law school. It's

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Speaker 1: a bit of a cultural challenge for anyone. What was

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Speaker 1: that experience like for you? Well, the best part of

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Speaker 1: Harvard Law was meeting my amazing husband, who as a

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Speaker 1: first generation Congolese immigrant, his dad grew up in a

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Speaker 1: my husband, Jerley. However, Harvard Law they don't take very

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Speaker 1: well to outspoken conservatives from Alaska. And I won't be bullied,

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Speaker 1: and I won't be silence, and I won't be controlled.

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Speaker 1: My dad always said, you know, talk straight kids. They

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Speaker 1: might not like what you say, but they always know

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Speaker 1: where you stand, and that's called integrity. And I really

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Speaker 1: value my integrity. And so they posted death threats regularly

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Speaker 1: against me in the student common and I think that's fun.

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Speaker 1: England liberals and leftist post death threats because look, I

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Speaker 1: grew up in the land of predators. When you walk

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Speaker 1: And so it just didn't FaZe me much, because you know,

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Speaker 1: yourself no matter where you're going, and there's just not

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Speaker 1: that way. And so I've also learned looking back that

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Speaker 1: going to Harvard Law and having all those death threats

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Speaker 1: And that was my experience there. I got trained well,

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Speaker 1: my conservative views. That was Harvard. We're speaking to a

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Speaker 1: Senate candidate for the Republican Party in Alaska, Kelly Chuvaka.

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Speaker 1: And Kelly, I just want to know because there's so

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Speaker 1: struggling to make ends meet. The geopolitical situation because of Russia,

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Speaker 1: Biden administration makes it seem like they're they're all in favor,

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Speaker 1: you know, drill wherever you want. Lots of permits out there,

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Speaker 1: the truth is of this and how are they making

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Speaker 1: Biden's an expert at the blame game. You know, for

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Speaker 1: a while it was Putin's fault, and it's some meat

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Speaker 1: industry fault, the oil industry fault, Republican's fault. It's really

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Speaker 1: only Biden's fault. When Biden feels at the blame game,

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Speaker 1: he then plays the spectrum of deception game. And this

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Speaker 1: misinformation thing. Oh, we'll look up here. Because we talk straight,

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Speaker 1: we just call it lies. There's anyone who knows the

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Speaker 1: oil industry knows that you can give out the permits

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Speaker 1: all you want, or the lease is all you want.

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Speaker 1: But if you kind of draw the analogy to a

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Speaker 1: lease in an apartment building, we can find the papers,

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Speaker 1: but if you don't hand over the keys, a paper

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Speaker 1: the example of anwar. The courts have set open an our,

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Speaker 1: Congress is set open an our. Trump let us open anwark.

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Speaker 1: I am in Norvik. I can't even count the number

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Speaker 1: made by Deb holland confirmed by Lisa Murkowski. So do

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Speaker 1: not believe those lies. I'm sitting up here fighting for

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Speaker 1: the people just like my mom and dad who have

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Speaker 1: support you instead of Lisa Murkowski, what would you tell

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Speaker 1: AKA dot com, Kelly for AK dot com. Fantastic stuff.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate the time. That's Kelly Shubakah is running as

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Speaker 1: the Republican and Alaska potentially to beat Lisa Murkowski. That

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Speaker 1: We roll through the Friday edition of the program and Buck,

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Speaker 1: right now, I am looking by the way, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk with Alaska Senate candidate Kelly Chewbacca at one thirty.

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Speaker 1: She is running as the Republican candidate against what is

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Speaker 1: going to be I actually want to get into some

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Speaker 1: a senator, because Alisa Murkowski is the current senator there.

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Speaker 1: But they do ranked choice voting in the Senate race,

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Speaker 1: and I'm actually intrigued to see how exactly that is

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Speaker 1: going to go. But right now, as I am talking

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Speaker 1: to you, Buck, I'm looking at updated murder rates all

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Speaker 1: over the country because crime has not declined in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two. And you and I I think we're both

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Speaker 1: prescient on this, where initially Democrats said, oh, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: the crime went up in twenty twenty because of the

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Speaker 1: pandemic and all the COVID related restrictions, when the reality

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Speaker 1: was Buck, it's skyrocketed in the wake of George Floyd,

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Speaker 1: in the BLM protest, in the demonization of all police

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Speaker 1: officers across the country. But I just want to hit

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Speaker 1: you with some cities, many of these cities we are

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Speaker 1: on right now. So far this year, murder is up

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Speaker 1: twenty percent in Saint Louis over last year. Murder is

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Speaker 1: up and these are decent sized cities I'm trying to pick.

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Speaker 1: Murder is up twenty percent. In San Francisco, Murder is

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Speaker 1: up forty percent year to year. These are year to

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Speaker 1: year numbers in New Orleans, murder is up ninety two percent.

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Speaker 1: Buck in Milwaukee, where we are number one right now

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Speaker 1: in the audience, we appreciate everybody listening in Milwaukee, but

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Speaker 1: those are staggering numbers versus twenty twenty one, when, by

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Speaker 1: the way, the numbers were up pretty significant there as well.

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Speaker 1: Houston according to this data, where we are also number

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Speaker 1: one in the marketplace. Appreciate all you in Houston up

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Speaker 1: twenty one percent, Dallas up double digits, Cleveland up double digits,

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati up over thirty percent. Birmingham, Alabama, another city, were

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Speaker 1: number one, forty one percent increase in murder, Atlanta up

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Speaker 1: forty three percent. I mean, these are staggering numbers. Buck,

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Speaker 1: Baltimore up nearly double digits after it continues to skyrocket.

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Speaker 1: These are big, massive increases, and the Democrats don't don't

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Speaker 1: have an answer for it. In fact, let's play this

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Speaker 1: audio because I do think it's just so emblematic of

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Speaker 1: the refusal to acknowledge the issue. And it is Jen

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Speaker 1: Saki here she is. Do you remember the four boxes

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Speaker 1: that we had on all the TV's, So right now,

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Speaker 1: just to give you a sense, so CNN Pentagon as

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Speaker 1: many as eighty five US troops on heightened alert. Okay, true.

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Speaker 1: Same on MSNBC. CNBC is doing their own thing about

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Speaker 1: the market. And then on Fox is Janine Pierro talking

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Speaker 1: about soft on crime consequences. I mean, what does that

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Speaker 1: even mean? Right? So there's an alternate universe on some coverage.

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Speaker 1: What's scary about it is a lot of people watch that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the alternate universe is the one that Jen Saki is

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Speaker 1: living in. Because let's just this was actually perfect. She

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Speaker 1: looks at the left wing networks and compares them to Fox.

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Speaker 1: There what matters more to the day to day lives

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Speaker 1: and existence of the average American The elevated status of

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Speaker 1: some NATO troops overseas at one point in time, or

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Speaker 1: the possibility of being bludgeoned to death on the way

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Speaker 1: home from work by somebody who's been arrested fifty times

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Speaker 1: by the municipal or state authority where you live. Which

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Speaker 1: one is more likely to affect the American people listening

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Speaker 1: to this? How many more Americans are the victims of larceny, burglary, rape, murder, assault?

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Speaker 1: Go down the list of all the crimes and the

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Speaker 1: huge spike in them and the tens of thousands, the

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Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of people that are suffering as a

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Speaker 1: result of the I'm not even talking about the normal

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Speaker 1: day to day crime that we've gotten used to in

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Speaker 1: this country that is already too high before the surge, Clay,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about the last almost two years. Now we

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Speaker 1: know it's not COVID. And here's what they won't do.

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Speaker 1: You know, they make it seem like it's also complicated.

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Speaker 1: All we need to have we need to come up

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Speaker 1: with some new strat geeze and community outreach. Step one,

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Speaker 1: lock up criminals. And this is the thing that they're

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Speaker 1: not willing to do. Lock up criminals. People who break

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Speaker 1: the law need to be taken off the streets and

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Speaker 1: serve time in prison. If you ask, it's actually an

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Speaker 1: even bigger problem. I'm here in New York City. The

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Speaker 1: stats on crime in New York City, Clay in my

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Speaker 1: I live in Midtown, so I live right in the

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Speaker 1: middle of it, right Grand larceny is up seventy four

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Speaker 1: percent year over year. People, they're just stealing stuff all

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Speaker 1: over the place. My beloved scooter, although it did get replaced,

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Speaker 1: stolen in the blink of an eye, you know, and

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Speaker 1: you're lucky to still have your scarves. Oh man, well,

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Speaker 1: that's you know. I hide the fancy ones in my pocket.

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Speaker 1: I make sure that no one knows. But you know,

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Speaker 1: the reality here, Clay, is that they won't do the

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Speaker 1: most fundamental, the most obvious things to deal with the

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Speaker 1: problem because it goes against their ideology. So they come

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Speaker 1: up with all these other ex planations. Did you see

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Speaker 1: this just real quick in San Francisco. I just thought

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Speaker 1: this was amazing because you know, do you have these

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Speaker 1: libs who clearly they vote for Democrats and they you know,

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Speaker 1: they wanted their woke, but they also have to deal

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Speaker 1: with the reality sometimes. This is the CEO of Kraken,

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Speaker 1: Jesse Powell. He just wrote this email yesterday. We shut

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Speaker 1: down Kraken's global headquarters on Market Street in San Francisco

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Speaker 1: after numerous employees were attacked, harassed, and robbed on their

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Speaker 1: way to and from the office. Business partners were afraid

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Speaker 1: to visit after being victimized. Crime, mental illness, and drug

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Speaker 1: abuse are out of control in this city, which is

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Speaker 1: dramatically underreported because it's so common commonplace. The police are

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Speaker 1: known to arrest the same offenders dozens of times. Thanks

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Speaker 1: to the district Attorney's catch and release program CHESSI Budan,

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Speaker 1: which has resulted in numerous preventable murders of innocent No doubt,

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Speaker 1: this is what's happening in cities all across the country

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Speaker 1: where Democrats are in charge. Joe Biden maybe the only

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Speaker 1: thing he's ever been right on, Buck, nineteen ninety four

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Speaker 1: past the crime bill, and you can trace a substantial

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Speaker 1: decline in crime to this country to what happened in

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four. And I keep saying this, but it's

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Speaker 1: so true. Being concerned about incarceration rates of criminals is

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Speaker 1: a luxury of a low crime environment. If you are

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Speaker 1: sitting around saying, man, we are being too difficult on

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Speaker 1: violent criminals, then what you are really saying is I

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Speaker 1: feel safe. And Buck, there are a lot of people

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Speaker 1: in big cities all over this country who don't feel

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Speaker 1: safe right now. And I always say, one way to

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Speaker 1: check and see whether your neighborhood is safe is by

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Speaker 1: the question that I would ask is how many women

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Speaker 1: feel comfortable going out for a jog or a walk

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Speaker 1: by themselves in the evening? Right It's a great test

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Speaker 1: of safety in any number of neighborhoods, Would your wife,

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Speaker 1: would your daughter, would your girlfriend feel comfortable going for

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Speaker 1: a jog in the neighborhood or not? And I would

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Speaker 1: submit to you that over the last four or five years,

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Speaker 1: the number of women who feel safe going out to

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Speaker 1: walk after dark, going for a jog some places even

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Speaker 1: during the day, that feel safe in their neighborhoods has

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Speaker 1: plummeted all over this country. And it's why to me, Buck,

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Speaker 1: You know, we talk about COVID and this needs to

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Speaker 1: be a reckoning in twenty twenty two as well. But

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Speaker 1: until there are consequences over crime, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: going to happen, you're already seeing it happened, Buck CHESSI

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Speaker 1: Buddan's getting recalled the same thing as happening in La,

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Speaker 1: where the das are being overwhelmingly rejected by was at Gascon.

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Speaker 1: I think in La who overwhelmingly was repudiated by other

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Speaker 1: das because of his soft darted crime policies. This is

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Speaker 1: happening everywhere, and there have to be consequences for these

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Speaker 1: das too, because their choice not to prosecute and their

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Speaker 1: choice not to hold people accountable for violating the law

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Speaker 1: is leading to tons of deaths that otherwise and then

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Speaker 1: we can't underrate. I believe the number of police shooting

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Speaker 1: deaths have skyrocketed so far this year again again, and

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Speaker 1: that is because we have so demonized police in this

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Speaker 1: country and it has real tangible consequential results in terms

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Speaker 1: of their safety on the streets. Look at the decisions

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Speaker 1: that have been made by Democrats over the last year,

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Speaker 1: but also just the policies they've been pushing in recent

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Speaker 1: years and the consequences of them. I mean, we're not

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Speaker 1: sitting here Clay talking about the marginal tax rate for

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Speaker 1: top earners being thirty seven or thirty nine percent. Look, people,

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Speaker 1: can you know we could agree to disagree what's going

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Speaker 1: to cause more growth? You know, on a lot of

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Speaker 1: foreign policy issues in general, I'd say you should be

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Speaker 1: able to have a conversation without getting overly testy when

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Speaker 1: people who kind of disagree, because it's very complicated and

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Speaker 1: it's multiple things going on, a lot of things to

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Speaker 1: we're talking about straight forward stuff. We want fewer people

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Speaker 1: on the streets clubbing old ladies with lead pipes and

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Speaker 1: stealing their handbags. Doesn't everyone agrees with what bage, but

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Speaker 1: but the Democrat apparatus pretends that that's not what's going on.

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Speaker 1: The Democrat apparatus tells us that they're reforming a racist

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Speaker 1: criminal justice system, or they're they're pushing for equity and

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Speaker 1: inclusion by doing more community outreach with police resources instead

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Speaker 1: of just protecting everybody. And as you and I always

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Speaker 1: talking about the communities that suffer the most from the

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Speaker 1: live decisions of people like Pelosi and AOC and Schumer,

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Speaker 1: they don't suffer. They live in fancy houses, they're they're millionaires,

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Speaker 1: they're doing security guards. Yes, it's it's the people that

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Speaker 1: they are pandering too in high crime communities by saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: the cops aren't your friend. We're gonna make this all better.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have bail reform and criminal justice form, and

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Speaker 1: that's gonna make your community better. Those are lies, and

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Speaker 1: the people that they're pandering to with those lies are

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Speaker 1: being hurt. They're literally physically being hurt by those lies.

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Speaker 1: Numbers for you, Buck, This is from Sunday, so unfortunately

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Speaker 1: it may have increased since then. Police officers shot in

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Speaker 1: the line of duty through Sunday one hundred and one

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Speaker 1: of them, that is, and this is a staggering number.

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Speaker 1: A forty three percent increase from twenty twenty one. The

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Speaker 1: numbers have been skyrocketing in general. Buck twenty twenty one

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Speaker 1: was the highest rate of officers shootings in a generation.

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Speaker 1: So we now compared to twenty twenty one, are up

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Speaker 1: forty three percent on police officer shooting so far through

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Speaker 1: this year, through the first quarter, compared to the worst

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Speaker 1: year in a generation. I mean, this is real consequential

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Speaker 1: at the very essence of being safe in this country.

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Speaker 1: I hit you with the numbers on murders, but that

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Speaker 1: police officer number should be staggering, should be being asked

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Speaker 1: of so many different Democrat politicians across the country. And

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Speaker 1: you can just see Clay also from the beginning of

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Speaker 1: BLM two point zero, after George Floyd's killing in Minneapolis

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Speaker 1: The third hour of clay in Buck is here. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for rolling with us. Biden is creating the worst

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Speaker 1: illegal immigrant crisis ever. That's the headline up at Foxnews

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Speaker 1: dot Com Opinion right now. I wrote it last night

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Speaker 1: because I'm just furious about what's happening here. We've been

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Speaker 1: trying to update you about every step of this disaster

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Speaker 1: as it is unfolding. With the end of Title forty two,

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Speaker 1: but everything the Biden regime has done so far it

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Speaker 1: seemed like they want the border to be wide open.

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Speaker 1: They want there to be massive, massive inflows of illegal

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Speaker 1: immigrants into this country. Somebody who knows this issue backwards

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Speaker 1: and forwards and was on the front lines of trying

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Speaker 1: to secure the border during the Trump administration is Stephen Miller.

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Speaker 1: He was a former senior advisor to President Trump in

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Speaker 1: the White House, and he's also the President of America

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Speaker 1: First Legal He joins us now, Steven, great to have

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Speaker 1: you back, great to be here. Thank you. So see,

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Speaker 1: but I've been talking to my border patrol sources this

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Speaker 1: week and checking in on the numbers as they stand

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Speaker 1: so far, as well as the projections from DHS. We're

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Speaker 1: staring at what feels like the immigration iceberg, so to speak,

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Speaker 1: and the Biden administration is yelling full speed ahead unprecedented

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Speaker 1: illegal immigration numbers a month away. What's going on here? Well,

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Speaker 1: I often tell people that a run out of actors

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Speaker 1: that describe how that it already is. You know, when

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden came into office in January of two thousand

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Speaker 1: and twenty one, we were already within a few weeks

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Speaker 1: of him taking the oath of office in a full

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Speaker 1: blown border crisis. We all remember the images for that

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Speaker 1: hot minute when the media was actually covering it, and

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Speaker 1: then they realize, holy craft, this is terrible for Biden's

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Speaker 1: pull numbers. We're not going to talk about it again

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Speaker 1: for a year. The situation since then has gotten unimaginably worse.

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Speaker 1: We've gone from four or five thousand apprehensions a day

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Speaker 1: to now eight thousand apprehensions a day, so we've doubled

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Speaker 1: what was true five alarm fire crisis levels. That's where

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Speaker 1: we are now. So it's much worse than anything we've

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Speaker 1: ever had before in American history, because twenty twenty one

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Speaker 1: was the highest level since records have been kept. That's

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Speaker 1: your starting point, your baseline under Joe Biden is the

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Speaker 1: worst year in American history. So how do you even

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Speaker 1: describe where we are right now? Not in May when

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Speaker 1: Title forty two is gone, Right now today, when we

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Speaker 1: were at eight thousand are hundreds a day plus two

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Speaker 1: thousand gataways that we know of a day, and by

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Speaker 1: no of I mean these are people bought a patrol

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Speaker 1: seas escape or they are able to deduce the size

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Speaker 1: of a group from a footprints or from a fence cut,

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Speaker 1: or from drone surveillance, etc. So that's ten thousand, and

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Speaker 1: then you have another group, which are the unknown gataways,

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Speaker 1: which of course by definition are unknown. So you're daily

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Speaker 1: numbers crossing exceed ten thousand a day right now. No

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Speaker 1: nation in history has experienced any legal immigration wave of

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Speaker 1: that size. Ever, you can't find any historical precedent for it.

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Speaker 1: You can scour the history books your entire life. It's

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Speaker 1: now on top of that, they're saying, Okay, now let's

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Speaker 1: get rid of Title forty two, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: go from ten thousand to some unknowably larger number, at

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Speaker 1: which point in time you can get any of the

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Speaker 1: source in the world will be no attractives left to

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Speaker 1: describe how bad that is. Steven appreciate you joining us.

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Speaker 1: I'm reading Marco Rubio from this morning. He tweeted out,

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Speaker 1: several Central American leaders have informed me traffickers are spreading

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Speaker 1: the word Biden's going to allow anyone who crosses the

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Speaker 1: border to stay if they file for asylum. A massive

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Speaker 1: illegal immigration surge is coming, and those who pushed to

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Speaker 1: end Title forty two are to blame. Okay, so let's

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Speaker 1: presume that this is true. Buck and I were discussing

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Speaker 1: this yesterday, Stephen, What could possibly be the goal of

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Speaker 1: the Biden administration in making this choice, given that their

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Speaker 1: approval ratings are already total trash, They're staring at a

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Speaker 1: red wave in the midterm election. What is their game plan?

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Speaker 1: What are they gaining by this? Why are they doing it? Well?

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Speaker 1: If you look at several positions at the Democratic Party,

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Speaker 1: I would argue that this is the one that will

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Speaker 1: have by far the most irreversible consequences for our country.

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Speaker 1: But you know, if you look at their paul on

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Speaker 1: crime as an example, you can look at their policies

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Speaker 1: on critical race theory as an example. They're all enormously

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Speaker 1: unpopular with normal human beings, really, including in the Democratic Party. Two.

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Speaker 1: So the question, of course becomes why. I think the

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Speaker 1: answer to that is that Democrats are interested, and have

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Speaker 1: always been interested in long term structural power, and so

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Speaker 1: they're willing to sacrifice short term pain for long term gain.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I think they've already written off by it,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not the first person to say this. I

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Speaker 1: don't think they think he's going to be the nominee,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think that they think that if by

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Speaker 1: some miracle he were to become the nominee that he'll

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Speaker 1: be in the Oval office five years from now. So

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Speaker 1: they're playing the long game here, and they know look

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Speaker 1: at California, that large scale, uninterrupted illegal immigration and by

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Speaker 1: the way, nothing that we have today you can compare

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Speaker 1: us to what was happening in eighties or nineties. I

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Speaker 1: so much worse today that it's California times ten. But

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Speaker 1: you look at California. This was the state that went

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Speaker 1: for Nickson, win for Ivan howerwin for Reagan, went for

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Speaker 1: states in the whole country. Beautiful, beautiful weather and wildly conservative.

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Speaker 1: Basically paradise. Now look at California, so they understand that

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Speaker 1: they are setting the stage for a long term democratic governance.

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Speaker 1: We're speaking to Stephen Miller. He is the president of

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Speaker 1: America First Legal and a former senior advisor to President

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Stephen, are you seeing indicators Because some of

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Speaker 1: the people that I know and work with, who really

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Speaker 1: dig into the minutia of DHS rules and regulations and

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Speaker 1: how the bureaucracy functions, they're already saying that one of

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Speaker 1: the plans here is going to be to make it

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Speaker 1: easier for illegal Once Title forty two goes, they're going

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Speaker 1: to streamline the process so that we won't see fifteen

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Speaker 1: or twenty thousand person you know, camp site so to speak,

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Speaker 1: or grouping by the border the way we did months ago.

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Speaker 1: It'll just be invisible, largely because there'll be so many

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Speaker 1: people going in and immediately being led into the country

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Speaker 1: with either a notice to appear or an alternative to

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Speaker 1: detention policy, which just means essentially the honor system. Is

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Speaker 1: that even is that possible? I mean, can the bureaucracy

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Speaker 1: do that and get away with it? If the Biden

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Speaker 1: regime says that's what they want, it is possible, and

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Speaker 1: it's indeed the plan, and you're very wise for mentioning it.

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Speaker 1: So since the beginning of the Biden administration, their entire

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Speaker 1: strategy for dealing with the mass migration that they invited

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Speaker 1: has been to accelerate its entry. Right hence the secret

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Speaker 1: flights that we've all seen cover on Fox News and elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: So when they add bodies to the border, when they

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Speaker 1: add more personnel to the border, when they add more

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Speaker 1: facilities to the border, it's not for the purpose of repatriation.

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Speaker 1: I e. Deportation. It's for the purpose of getting people

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Speaker 1: here illegally and more quickly inside the country. And so

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Speaker 1: if you member going again back to when we had

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Speaker 1: those images early on people overflowing bordercultural facilities, their solution

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Speaker 1: to that was not to get people back home, which

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Speaker 1: would have made the whole problem go away in a

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Speaker 1: few weeks. Their solution was to line up more transportation

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Speaker 1: to get those people more quickly to their city of

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Speaker 1: choice inside the United States. So that is going to

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Speaker 1: be their sole, an entire strategy for the tsunami legal

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Speaker 1: immigration that is coming and building and growing. And to

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Speaker 1: your point about asylum, and this is especially insidious. So

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Speaker 1: we know that these are not asylum seekers. Everybody understands this.

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Speaker 1: These are overwhelmingly economic migrants. And then there's also, of

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Speaker 1: course a portion of criminals, a portion of drug traffickers,

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Speaker 1: a portion of sex traffickers, etc. But that's your grouping.

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Speaker 1: These are not people that are with rare exceptions there

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Speaker 1: would mean any recognized definition of asylum. But if you

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Speaker 1: change the regulations which they're doing to make it easier

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Speaker 1: for someone to get a asylum and to allow them

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Speaker 1: to get that benefit, far more quickly. You're minting new

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Speaker 1: citizens at the border when you're granted asylum. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if many people realize this. That doesn't mean, oh,

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Speaker 1: you get to live here. No, no no, no. Asylum is

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Speaker 1: a six year path to American citizenship. Once you're granted asylum,

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Speaker 1: you're immediately eligible for all federal benefits in the country.

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Speaker 1: Within a year of granting asylum, you're eligible for a

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Speaker 1: Five years after that, you can become a United States citizen.

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Speaker 1: So the goal here is to create any legal alien

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Speaker 1: to citizen pipeline. Stephen, you mentioned that you don't think

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Speaker 1: Biden will be the nominee, and that some element of

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Speaker 1: this is about the long game, not about any time

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Speaker 1: any current political calculus. Necessarily who's the nominee for the

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Speaker 1: why they are so panicky right now. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that they know because logic would say that it would

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Speaker 1: have to be the vice president Kamala Harris, who has

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Speaker 1: arguably had the worst debut as a vice president since

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Speaker 1: anyone who's been keeping track of these things, she's the

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Speaker 1: only person who has somehow managed to be even less

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Speaker 1: articulate than Joe Biden. But if you were to say

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Speaker 1: look more broadly, I could see a situation where they

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Speaker 1: take a hard look, for example, at Gavin Newsom. Now,

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Speaker 1: I think for them they would always the next place

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Speaker 1: they would go would be, Okay, who are who are

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Speaker 1: the governors of large Democrat states? But I don't think

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Speaker 1: they know who their nominee is going to be? Right now?

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Speaker 1: Do you think Hillary might be the nominee? I think

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Speaker 1: she would like to be. I'm sure whatever she may

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Speaker 1: say publicly in her heart and I'm sure that she

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Speaker 1: would like it. And there's still obviously a pretty strong

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Speaker 1: is strong enough to overcome the AOC wing of the party.

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Speaker 1: I could be wrong. Obviously, Obviously in Biden they want

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Speaker 1: with a throwback turned out that he's the most radical

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Speaker 1: leftist president in the history of this country. But I

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Speaker 1: don't know if they'll be able to do another throwback

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Speaker 1: candidate again. Do you think immigration Stephen could be an

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Speaker 1: to the Democrat leftists? I would belie even further than that.

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Speaker 1: I would say it's indispensable. It's not only something that

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Speaker 1: we're going to need to repair the damage that's been

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Speaker 1: done over the last year plus you know, will be

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Speaker 1: two years by then. We have to put this as

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Speaker 1: And here's the other trip with this. The reason why

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Speaker 1: Democrats have gotten the way in the past with illegal immigration.

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Speaker 1: Of course, again what's happening now has no comparison in history,

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Speaker 1: is because Republicans haven't played the populist card against it,

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Speaker 1: So their hope is that they can keep their their

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Speaker 1: Elegal immigration is great if you actually go to minority

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Speaker 1: You can make huge gains in those communities, and that's

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Blake Arrabits Buck Sex and show hope

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Speaker 1: as it often does all this Disney, I don't even

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Speaker 1: know what you would call it, like sort of ritualized

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Speaker 1: this is Disney. Executive producer LaToya Ravino said that she

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Speaker 1: is a bi romantic, a sexual. That's how she defines herself.

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Speaker 1: Listen to this as she discusses the challenges at Disney

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Speaker 1: of being a bi romantic a sexual. I identify as

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Speaker 1: like a bi romantic a sexual. I've had a lot

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Speaker 1: of learning and growing about myself this year, kind of

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Speaker 1: facilitated by how comfortable I felt on the Proud Family

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Speaker 1: and with my media team at Disney TVA. And so

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Speaker 1: it's just sort of this creative dissonance between my personal

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Speaker 1: experience where I feel so safe and so supported. I

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Speaker 1: to like go deeper, like talk about how non monolithic

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Speaker 1: the LGBTQ plus community as an asexual ass an a sexual.

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Speaker 1: Like it's just like I feel like a lot of

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Speaker 1: people don't know what that is. I have to like

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Speaker 1: have a dissertation ready at any given time. I want

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Speaker 1: to like add the pockets of the LGBTQ community that

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Speaker 1: you don't see. I want to get like gay advanced.

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Speaker 1: And then I realized, like, oh, you need to go

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Speaker 1: back to like day one to one. I don't single guy.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine if you had to date a So

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Speaker 1: we're trying to figure out exactly what this is. I

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Speaker 1: a bi romantic asexual is like the friend zone forever

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say. What if a woman tells you

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Speaker 1: on a date that she is at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, she's like, just so you know, I'm romantic

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Speaker 1: but asexual. You're probably not doing as well as you

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Speaker 1: thought you were as a guy. That's just you know,

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Speaker 1: And that's the worst date ever. Your friends your friend

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Speaker 1: zoned forever, not only friend zoned, responsible for all the

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Speaker 1: And by the way, you're also competing in the romance

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Speaker 1: field with women and men. First of all, who signs

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Speaker 1: up for these relationships? Like, I can't think of anything

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Speaker 1: worse than being perpetually friend zoned as the goal of

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Speaker 1: the relationship. It's not like, hey, I'm just not that

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Speaker 1: you know, dichotomy, the difficult spot to be. This is forever.

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Speaker 1: I just want you to spend money and take me

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Speaker 1: out to dinner and wine and dine me, but I

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Speaker 1: have no interest at all in any sort of intimate

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Speaker 1: So I guess if you're a bisexual a romantic I'm sorry, no, no,

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Speaker 1: situation I think missing something. The awkward. Yeah, I think

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