1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:01,120 Speaker 1: The guys from Ping. 2 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 2: They've kind of showed me how much the equipment matters. 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 2: I just love that I can hit any shot. 4 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: I kind of want we're gonna be able to tell 5 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: some fun stories about what goes on here to help 6 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: golfers play better golf. 7 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, it's the Ping Proven Grounds Podcast. I'm Shane Bacon. 8 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 2: That of course is Marty Jerts and Marty. I like 9 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: the shirt, I like the fit, I like the look, 10 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: and I like the topic. Today we're gonna discuss kind 11 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: of the top end of the golf bag. It's i'd say, 12 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: what Ping offers these days has become pretty expansive. I 13 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: mean it is. You can have a lot of different 14 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 2: clubs in the bag in terms of fairy Woods and 15 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 2: Drivers and Thrivers and IDI, you know, long irons, a 16 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: lot of different irons out there, and I'm assuming when 17 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 2: you go to maybe upgrade it can feel slightly overwhelming 18 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: for people. So we wanted to kind of discuss the 19 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: right options for people out there if they're starting to 20 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: look across kind of the catalog the PING offers these days. 21 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, Shan's I think it's a very fun time. 22 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: You know, if you look at the history of golf. 23 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: It used to be you go, you go driver, maybe 24 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: a three wood or a four wood and then boom 25 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: right there three iron, nothing in between. And now we 26 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: have so many options in there. It's really fun that 27 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: we have these options for the everyday golfer. And then 28 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: how much diversity we see even with our tour players, right, 29 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: and what clubs are playing basically that whole topic of 30 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: between your driver and your longest iron. What do I do? 31 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean what we have done and what you 32 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 2: have done is created a golf club that can we 33 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: say was ahead of its time, Like like, can we 34 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: talk about the Thriver for. 35 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: Just a moment? 36 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: This golf club is I don't know if I get 37 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: more any more messages on or dms on Instagram than 38 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: about anything paying related than the Thriver. It's a golf 39 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: club that you when'd you when did you introduce it? 40 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: Two years ago? Three years ago? 41 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: It's been in my bag two and a half years now. 42 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean just explain to people that 43 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: they've never heard us talk about it or never listen 44 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: to the pod before. What is a Thriver? 45 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? The high level concept, Shane, is that if you 46 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: drive the ball let's say two seventy five or more 47 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: so like three hundred ish, you know, to ninety three hundred. 48 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: We we looked at the data, and my own personal 49 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: data on this too showed that I'm hitting that that 50 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: three wood or that longest club most of the time 51 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 1: off the tee. For me, it was like eighty five 52 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: to ninety percent of my t shots in my local 53 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: Arizona golf when I hit my threewood, it was off 54 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: a tee and I was kind of struggling with threewood 55 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: off the tee through it for mechanical reasons, mental reasons. 56 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: It was a little fragile, let's just call it. 57 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: And so I built this uh and welcome to the club, 58 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: my friend, Welcome to the club. 59 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: Fragile. You know, it's a good, good, good framing on 60 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: every golfer that you know. So you know, if you 61 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: if you cure someone's fragile point in their golf game, 62 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: you can do magical things. So that's what this driver 63 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: has done for me. So it's three wood drivers, how 64 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: the name came to be. But it's basically a twelve 65 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: degree driver build that we put that we build a 66 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: basically effectively around three wood length. Some people got minds 67 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: like forty three and a quarter three wood shaft plugged 68 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: in there goes into forty three and a quarter. I 69 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: build a little flatter, a little heavier swing way. I 70 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: put the CG shifter in the in the in the 71 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: fade position or the toe position, and I can tee 72 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: it really low. In The dispersion you get when you 73 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: use it as a t shot club compared to a 74 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: traditional three wood is phenomenal. Like your your downline dispersion 75 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: when we do a player test on this is like 76 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: fifty percent smaller, so you literally hit it twice as 77 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: straight off the tee. And so it's just a fantastic club. 78 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: We had Christo win with it on the corn Ferry 79 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: Tour event here, you know, a few few weeks or 80 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: a few months ago, and so we see a lot 81 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: of tour players doing this because they drive the ball far. 82 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: So it's a great three wood replacement club for folks 83 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: who hit it far off the tee. But but your 84 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: your everyday golfer, let's you hit it two fifty off 85 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: the tee or shorter, and and your course kind of 86 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: just demands a lot of shots down there. A lot 87 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: of fairway finders, maybe you're not as comfortable sometimes with 88 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: the driver. It's also a good option there as well 89 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: for the everyday golfer that isn't hitting in a majority 90 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: of the times off the tee. 91 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I had a friend of mine. I 92 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 2: played golf with a lefty buddy of mine probably two 93 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 2: three months ago, like he was going to Scotland. You know, 94 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: he hits it two fifty. I mean he's not a 95 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: bomber yep. But we were talking through it. I had 96 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: the Thriver in the bag. I've been playing the Thriver 97 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: for a long time. I actually now I kind of 98 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: go between the Thriver and the four Wood depending on 99 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: the golf course. Perfect, but I do love the Thriver 100 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: for my golf club. I don't hit a lot of 101 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 2: fairy woods, like you don't really hit them into the 102 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: par fives, yep, and you don't really hit them off 103 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: the tee. So the Thriver's great because I can hit 104 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: it on a couple of squeeze holes. But ye, he 105 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: was asking a lot of questions about it, and I 106 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: gave him my old Thriver to hit, you know, to 107 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: go play with. I said, take this one out, you know, 108 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 2: the four point thirty hit it, let me know what 109 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: you think, and he immediately said, like, I'm buying one tomorrow. 110 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: And he bought one the next day and took it 111 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: to Scotland and he said he hit it the majority 112 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 2: of the time. He said it was a great club 113 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: for a Scotland trip because you know, he knew it 114 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 2: was going to be controllable. He could see it low, 115 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: like you said, get it in play and he could 116 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: trust it. And again when you're like the driver for 117 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: elite players is one of the easiest clubs to hit 118 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: these days, but the average player still can struggle to 119 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: spray it. And the fact that this club exists and 120 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: allows you it's a little shorter. I love the length 121 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 2: of it. I mean, I think that might be my 122 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 2: favorite part of the golf club. But if you're not 123 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: a big Fairwywood fan, I think it's an incredible option, 124 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 2: you know, within your golf bag to maybe consider. 125 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's very magical, Shane, And yeah, you just 126 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: think about like you play that big four un and 127 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: sixty cc head basically as a three would in the 128 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: inertia of that fairway Wood is three or four times 129 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: more of the Thriver build is three to four times 130 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: bigger than a fairway would and that manifests itself in 131 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: that dispersion being so much. You got a lot of 132 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: flexibility with T height. Like most of the time on 133 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: T mind, you probably do the same like tat low 134 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: and kind of chip it or chip cut it. But 135 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: if you ever get to that hole where you need 136 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: to hit a high draw or a high one, maybe 137 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: driveable par for it's kind of downwind, but you got 138 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: to launch it up, you couldn't do it with your 139 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: driver boom you could tee at high. So it does 140 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: have a lot of flexibility there. So not not a 141 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: club for everybody, but it's certainly when we're talking about 142 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: this suite of options between your driver and your longest iron, 143 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: that's that's one that's certainly an option there, and we 144 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: have a great build for that with our twelve degree heads. 145 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you think about Thriver and then obviously, 146 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, people are gonna have a driver 147 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 2: in their bag every time. I mean, it's going to 148 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 2: be in every bag in the world. And then you know, 149 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,239 Speaker 2: I mean, I do think that the traditional three wood 150 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 2: I think is we're not seeing as many traditional three 151 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: woods in bags these days. Obviously, the four wood has 152 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: come back in four to forty, which I'm a huge 153 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: fan of. I mean, I loved it. I think it 154 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 2: was G twenty series. One of my favorite clubs of 155 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 2: all time was the Ping four wood. Now the four 156 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: wood is back. But you know, this high loft fairwe 157 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 2: would concept has become extremely popular as well. Why do 158 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 2: you feel like the five woods and the seven woods, 159 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: even the nine woods have become way more popular than 160 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: we've ever seen before in the history of golf. 161 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think it's great. I think what people 162 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: are realizing is that, you know, we is equipment designers. 163 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: We've been able to get the center gravity lower, you 164 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: can get under the ball more, you can launch them 165 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: higher fair way woods, especially for like you know, tour 166 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: players and then every day golfers alike. They allow you 167 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: to swing a little bit steeper, so you can kind 168 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: of swing a little bit steeper on it. What we're 169 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: seeing a lot of our tour players do, Shane, is 170 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: go shorter with the length, right, and this is not 171 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: necessarily something the everyday golfer needs to do is to 172 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: go shorter than our standard length, but the tour players 173 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: doing it to manipulate the peak trajectory and the height 174 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: and to take a little bit of that distance off. 175 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: I think we probably talked about that with Kent Oates 176 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: of the Magic how they fit those out there with 177 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: the PGA Tour players. One of my favorite examples of this, 178 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: Shane is a guy you know well, also is Matt McCarty. 179 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: So he plays your traditional three wood. Is his three wood, 180 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: you know it kind of average tour length, slightly above 181 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: average tour length, pretty medium trajectory in terms of launch conditions. 182 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: If we look at his seven iron launch conditions and 183 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: then he plays the he plays our seven wood, but 184 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: he plays at I think forty and three quarters inches, 185 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: so this is an inch and a quarter short. He 186 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: basically plays his seven wood at hybrid length, right if 187 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: you think about it. And then he also has it 188 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: in a little stronger position he has in our big 189 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: minus position. So with going shorter in length, stronger on 190 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: law through our Hauzal setting, he's kind of got the 191 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: peak trajectory down closer to a hybrid, but he can 192 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: hit down on it a little bit steeper, steeper, easier 193 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: to get out of the rough. And as you know, 194 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: Shane on the PGA Tour there's so many of those 195 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: long threes that are like two twenty five to two 196 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: forty that that club is magical. That's one of the 197 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: big reasons why the tour players use it. When when 198 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: you look at the stats of of a par three 199 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: distance on tour, there are so many par threes like 200 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: two twenty to two forty and and that's just seven 201 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: would heaven out there for the PGA tour player. And 202 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: that's what Matt talked about when we talked to him 203 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: on the podcast. 204 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 2: It's been a it's been a really cool club, you know. 205 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 2: I think you know, for me with my relationship with 206 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: Fairway Woods has always been an interesting one. I just 207 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: have never loved my three woods, like over the years, 208 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 2: it's always been a club in my bag that's given 209 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: me the biggest fits. Even in like my college days, 210 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: I kind of had the driver yips. I'd go two iron, 211 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 2: you know, I would just say stinger, two iron all. 212 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: Over the place. 213 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: I just I never like it was still a wood 214 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,599 Speaker 2: in my opinion, But you know, the four wood was. 215 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: It was a huge change for me. I remember I 216 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: leaned heavily on that. I love the fact that it 217 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 2: was a little bit thicker you know, it wasn't the 218 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: that trend in the in the late nineties, kind of 219 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: the tight lie or lamar like really skinny face Fairway 220 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: wood shot. It wasn't great for me. I was steep 221 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: and you know, I'd hit it up on top of 222 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: the face that that four wood still had some some 223 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: girth to it and some and some thickness to it. 224 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: And uh and I feel like the same with the 225 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: five wood in the seven wood. And the recent iteration 226 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: that Ping has offered is they're lofty, but you don't 227 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 2: feel like you're you're giving up kind of the the 228 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: depth of face that you maybe used to have to 229 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 2: give up when loft was was was introduced. 230 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: I I love that, Shane. I remember uh Man with 231 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: Hunter Mayhan. I was with with Hunter Mayhand and uh 232 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: and Sean Foley on the range and they're working on 233 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: taking divots with the Fairway wood, you know, and it's 234 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: it's I think that's you're nailing. And I kind of 235 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: mentioned it when I said we've been able to get 236 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: the cig's lower. Well, the secret that I think you 237 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head is that the cieg's low, 238 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: so they fly nice, but we don't have to do 239 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: it through making the face shallow so you don't need 240 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: to be afraid of hitting down on it. A little 241 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: bit more going down and getting it, and now you 242 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: can go down and get it and still get that 243 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: ball to launch high. So you get that. That is 244 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: the magic of why these clubs are have been more prevalent, 245 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: a little easier to hit, more functional, more fitting options. Yeah, 246 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: it's the face height with the center gravity is being low. Marty, 247 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: fourteen clubs sound like a lot. It's not a lot. 248 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: We all battle. I mean you travel with like one 249 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: hundred clubs when you go on these golf tournaments. I 250 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: now travel with fifteen or sixteen. When I go on 251 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: golf trips, I always have, you know, either an. 252 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 2: IDI in the bag, or I'll have maybe my three iron, 253 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: or I'll have maybe an extra lofted would in the bag. 254 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: As we dive into this top end fitting process in 255 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: terms of the top end of your golf bag, let's 256 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 2: say it's a five wood, it's an IDI four iron, 257 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 2: it's the I series three iron, Like, how do you 258 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: distinguish what a certain player might need it? Or a hybrid? Like, 259 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: how do you figure out what a player might need 260 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: is it is it club at speed? Is it attack angle? 261 00:11:58,679 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: Like? 262 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 2: What are you looking at in terms of figuring out 263 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 2: that for an individual versus somebody else. 264 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great question because we do now have 265 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: so many options in their shane. I think it the 266 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: way to think about it. I think for the golfer 267 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: out there is you want to think about gapping. So 268 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: you want to think about gapping though in two different ways. 269 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: There's your your downline gapping. That's your distance gaping either 270 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: carrier total, and that's going to spend on your course conditions, 271 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: your weather and your wind and things of that nature. 272 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: And then you want to think about your vertical gaping, 273 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: and that's your peak height. You know your peak height 274 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: and your land angle. So that's the base. Okay, it's like, okay, 275 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: we got we got to build these clubs in here. 276 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: How much or how far do you need it to 277 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: go and how high do you need it to go? 278 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: And that's your vertical and downline gaping. And then within 279 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: that we have plenty of flexibility for your course conditions. 280 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: Is it windy? Is it firm? Are are you playing 281 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: most of your golf at one home course where you 282 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: always have a you have a couple of long part 283 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: threes where you're always going to need that seven wood, 284 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: and the greens are firm, maybe the greens are elevated, 285 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: maybe you have to carry some bunkers in front. Right, 286 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: Is it always windy or is it not? And then 287 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: are you are you a kind of a tournament golfer 288 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: competitive golfer? Do you travel a little bit and you 289 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: need a couple options in there? That's more like you 290 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: and I are the tour player. You know, I usually 291 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: carry sixteen clubs and I got three options right there, 292 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: that's in you know, either three IDI, a hybrid or 293 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: five wood. Right, those are my kind of three options 294 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: depend on the course conditions. And again to me, Shane, 295 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: it still comes down to down line distance, vertical gaping, 296 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: and then wind and land angle right and how much 297 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: control do you need for those environmental conditions. 298 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 2: The IDI has been just a savior for me. I mean, 299 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 2: you know, I always I've always loved kind of the 300 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: driving iron concept again kind of going back to you know, 301 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: I was a sprayer of the driver in my early 302 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 2: days when when technology couldn't save me like it can today, 303 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: and I always would default to a long iron, to 304 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: a drive in iron just something a little bit meteor 305 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: but still trust in that long iron versus a fairway. 306 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: Would this IDI series dude is just changing it for me. 307 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: I mean I got two, three four, I'll sometimes play 308 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 2: two depending on the golf course. Uh, in the bag 309 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: like I might take a fairway wood of the thriver 310 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: even out of the bag at times. Yes, But I 311 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: d I if you, if you struggle off the tee 312 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: in terms of getting the ball in play, let me 313 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: tell you the I d I is at least worth 314 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 2: a look. 315 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: It is. 316 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: They're beautiful, they're they're they're meaty. The top line's great. 317 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with this thing. 318 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the fun part about the Idichan is 319 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: it's it's shorter heel to toe. You know, we've had 320 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: the crossovers of the past, which has been great, Don't get 321 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: me wrong, it's been great. But I love how you 322 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: get the shorter heel to toe length. And then whether 323 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: you're going to I two forty or blueprint ass or 324 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: blueprint te uh, it just blends right in both visually 325 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: and the can like the forces you're applying to square 326 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: the face. Everything marries up a lot better with the idea, 327 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: which which one do you playing day to day? Are 328 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: you playing the three three as you're like two forty 329 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: five two fifty club? 330 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like like out here probably around that 331 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: two forty number, I will say. 332 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: So. 333 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: I did the two and the three with graphite shafts, 334 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: you know, with more of a fairway wood level shaft, right, 335 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: and then I did the four with a steel shaft, 336 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 2: the same cheft I play in my irons. Yeah, and 337 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,479 Speaker 2: that loft on the four, when you look down at it, 338 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: it's like it looks like you can't at a bad 339 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: golf shot. 340 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 341 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: Mean it like I almost wish is a full set 342 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: of idea eyes, you know. I look down and it's 343 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: just it's it's crazy, Like how much I want to 344 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: put it in play on golf courses, I probably shouldn't 345 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: put it in play. 346 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm playing the four like I replaced my blueprint 347 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: s with the id I four, and I'm playing our 348 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: two or ninety X hybrid shaft in it. And this 349 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: thing is perfect. I think, not that it surprise me, 350 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: but you know, I think on a pod earlier this summer, 351 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: I was like, the id I is the sleeper club 352 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: of the year. Yeah, And right when they went on tour. 353 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: Shamee man. These things exploded in terms of usage with 354 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: with players that were playing some legacy crossovers and things 355 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: of that nature, like Victor Hoblin put it right in 356 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: over there for the Open and the Scottish Open, and 357 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: then the ultimate ball striker out there, Corey Connors. He's 358 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: playing the four I D I as his four iron, 359 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: just just like me and you Yeah. 360 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: Crazy, I mean, now you know what you might have 361 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: convinced me. I mean I literally might get done with 362 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: this podcast and walk six feet and put it in 363 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: the in the bag instead of my eye. My eye 364 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: four iron in there right now. But the mixed bag 365 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: is important. I mean, I think it's a big thing 366 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: in terms of trends on tour. Which way does do 367 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: the tour players go? In turn? I mean, I know 368 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 2: it's kind of all over the bag, but which way 369 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 2: did the tour players go in terms of kind of 370 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: the top end of their golf bag? Yeah, no, it is. 371 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: I think I think it is kind of generally all 372 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: over the bag. I was just looking at our tour 373 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: specs and we have the Matt McCarty playing the seven 374 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: woods short. Then we got Corey Connors. He's playing what's 375 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: effectively like a six wood, you know what I mean. 376 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: He's taken the five wood, adding a little loft, not 377 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: playing it quite as short as is Matt McCarty. We 378 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: got Victor playing the three IDI pretty much week in 379 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: and week out, right, So some of the guys that 380 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: can elevate the ball a little bit more on command 381 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: for those long part threes IDI being shorter heel to 382 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: toe is way better out of the rough now. So 383 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: we're seeing a lot more ID eyes go in the 384 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: bag and staying in there week to week, where before 385 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: maybe it would be a crossover. They put it in 386 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: for Harbor Town and the Open, then they come back 387 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: and it'd be all five wood seven wood hybrids. Again, 388 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: we're seeing the IDI stay in the bag longer because 389 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: the shorter heel to toe, they can launch the ball 390 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: up in the air, especially with a three. So the 391 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: two ID, I think you're gonna see that maybe more 392 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: is a come and go club. Fours are in there, 393 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: a lot of high lofted fairway woods on the PJ Tour. 394 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: We still have a full of hybrids in play, but 395 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: really I think where the everyday golfer can draw a 396 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: little bit more inspiration from in terms of similar distance 397 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: peak trajectory is the LPGA Tour. We absolutely are dominating 398 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: over there with hybrids, right, Okay, so if you're a golfer, 399 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: is that is having trouble getting your four five six 400 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: iron in the air. The hybrids are absolutely magical. And 401 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: what we've done with the hybrids over the year, Shane, 402 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: is hybrid's let's say five ten years ago, they had 403 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: a bad rap. But maybe in some maybe even some 404 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: better players still think, oh, hybrids go left. We've really 405 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: solved that problem. Like the low lofted ones kind of 406 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: anti left with dialed in the lining gal you got 407 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: the trajectory tuning sleeve, you can dial in, you can 408 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: go a little heavier on the shaft, a lot of 409 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: things to take that whole stigma of hybrids go left 410 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 1: out of play. But then are high lofted ones are 411 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: five six hybrid, They turn over really easy, and they're 412 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: meant to blend better with like our G series irons. Right, 413 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: So those are absolutely fantastic. We have this face design 414 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: called spinsistency, where if you hit them low on the face, 415 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: they no longer balloon up in the wind like they 416 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: used to, so they give you like effectively a lot 417 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: more spin forgiveness, trajectory forgiveness. So those are great options, Shane. 418 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: And then one thing we've done to help our fitters, 419 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: and if anyone's interested in spoiling this themselves, they can 420 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: do it by booking of virtual fitting with our master fitters. 421 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: We have a tool in Pink co Pilot now, Shane, 422 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: where just like Matt McCarty did where he changed the 423 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: hosel setting and then he went shorter on the length, 424 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: that we can help you dial that in specifically to 425 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: you if you want to go shorter in length or 426 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: maybe change your hozzle setting, and we can simulate what 427 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: that will do to your peak heite and your carry 428 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: carry distance. So even though you may not be able 429 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: to try that club out in your fitting environment, we 430 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: can get you dialed in just like our tour players do. 431 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: Is a shorter hot is a shorter seven wood or 432 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: shorter nine wood or shorter high ybrid good for you? 433 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: And we have these really cool simulation tools down in 434 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: Pink Copilot. 435 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 2: When you get fit for kind of the top end 436 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: of the golf bag, what are some important questions to 437 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 2: ask your fitter, like what should you be presenting in 438 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,479 Speaker 2: terms of information so that they can best kind of 439 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 2: fill out your bag and make sure you got the 440 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 2: right stuff in there. 441 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it's you know, I think it's a little 442 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: bit of what is your success rate? And when in 443 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: that longest club in your bag do you start not 444 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: being as successful as often as you should be? Maybe 445 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: you you know, like maybe you can hit that five 446 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: iron good one out of four shots, but if you 447 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: hit that five hybrid it'd be a good shot, very 448 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: good functional shot three out of four times, right, or 449 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: eight out of ten times. And so that's really I 450 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: think what you should think about and give yourself a 451 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: little honest assessment. And this is where stats tracking comes in. 452 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: But even if you don't do that, Shane, it's just 453 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: having some reflection on what is my success rate with 454 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: my five iron or my six iron, right, And then 455 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: the fitter can really help you by looking at your 456 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: clubhead speed, looking at your launch conditions to create that 457 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: right mix and combination from a distance and peak height standpoint. 458 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean again, it's I can imagine, you know, 459 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 2: golf is an overwhelming sport in general, you know, I 460 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: mean you think about beginning golfers getting into it, all 461 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: the you know rules and and and you know things 462 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 2: we don't talk about and you know, knock and stand 463 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 2: off your shoe when you walk out of a bunker, 464 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 2: like all these little things that that you you learn 465 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: as you go. But I love the idea of more 466 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 2: things available by paying, but to make it easier for 467 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: people to know what to put in the bag. And 468 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 2: it feels like that's kind of the idea between both 469 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 2: getting fit in person and virtual fitting specifically for kind 470 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: of the top end of the bag, as more stuff 471 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: get introduced, because it feels like every year something new 472 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: gets introduced by paying. In terms of a longer a 473 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 2: longer distance golf club, and I mean we didn't even 474 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 2: really talk about long irons, you know, like long irons 475 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: are another option like the two of the three iron 476 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: and something like that in the I series. It's like 477 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: those are options for players as well if they're long 478 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: iron golfers. 479 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I go, right, I go. I go 480 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: back to pink co pilot our gaping app, Shane, because 481 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,959 Speaker 1: the gaping app recommends when's you when you should switch 482 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: and maybe build a blended set. So we build our 483 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: blueprint t Blueprint ass I two forty perfectly to do 484 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: blended sets. I mean, you're seeing like Neil Shipley playing five. 485 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: He's like you more than you. 486 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: He's playing so many irons my bag right now, he's. 487 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: Playing five if you count the IDI, he's playing five 488 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: different iron models, right So. 489 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 2: What is he is? 490 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: The ID I and then I. Yeah, he goes I 491 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: D I I two thirty, Blueprint s Blueprint t and 492 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: then he plays our S one eight degree. 493 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 2: Five. Awesome. 494 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: How about that man that is so and we when 495 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: we plug his numbers into our pink Copilot gaping app 496 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: it suggests, just like with with our other players that 497 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: do split sets into either Blueprint ass in, Blueprint tee 498 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: or Blueprint ass In I two forty, it suggests where 499 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: he should split almost exactly where he does. So again, 500 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: it's kind of taking that tour level service. But you know, 501 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: if it works for Neil Shipley, h and you, it 502 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: could work for work for everybody out there. Shane Man, 503 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: Neil's a stud man. 504 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 2: It's been so cool to see his success this season, 505 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 2: that's for sure. I H. You know, you think about 506 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: early the early in the year, and you know he's 507 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 2: in he's in the commercials for paying and he's kind 508 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: of the star of these commercials, right, and then to 509 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 2: have the season he's had and to go out there 510 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 2: and then play so well on the corn Ferry Tour, 511 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: it's a it's been a lot of fun. He's a 512 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 2: really good dude. He's a fun dude to watch play. 513 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 2: I love him. I'm in our windows, you know. It's just, uh, 514 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 2: it's great. 515 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch him on the big, big 516 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: show next year. And we got we gotta get we 517 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: gotta get Neil on the pod. You know what'll be fun. 518 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: You need to get Neil on the pod. We got 519 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 2: to get the team on it. That's top end fitting. 520 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's a great conversation had As 521 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: we said, this isn't your grandfather's you know, golf equipment anymore. 522 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a lot of options, all make 523 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 2: a lot of sense a certain golfer, and it could 524 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 2: be complicated, and we're here to try to make it 525 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 2: a little easier on you, so so dive into it. 526 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 2: I'm waiting for the Thriver to change names to like 527 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: the Jertson and the next iteration. We'll see if we 528 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: get there. But uh, I'll have my fingers crossed if 529 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: we could ever get there in that world. But uh, 530 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 2: it's definitely your baby and I and I love it 531 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 2: in my bag, just like I love the IDI. That's Marty. 532 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 2: I'm Shane. This is the Pink bruven Grounds Podcast.