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Speaker 2: Paul then by Wilson for a touchdown. Wanna throw by

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Underground, presented by Pacific Office Automation. Visit

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Speaker 3: Problem solved middle the Enzo pickoff.

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Speaker 2: Hiz here White with the interception.

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Speaker 1: The latest news and notes from the insiders who cover

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Speaker 1: the team.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces. Oh

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Speaker 2: that was nasty right there. Rights slam the ground by

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Speaker 2: fooda baker like a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield.

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Speaker 2: I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: You know my new favorite term in American lexicon that

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Speaker 2: I think we should adapt into football this season. Three words.

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Speaker 2: Don't know where that comes from, but I'm gonna ignore it,

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Speaker 2: and I'm gonna just I'm gonna keep going. Danny Sirek,

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Speaker 2: Darren Urban mother fully vested. Doesn't have a laptop here

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Speaker 2: Darren Urban to distract him, No add from Darren Urban.

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Speaker 3: You know, I take notes about what we talk about

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Speaker 3: on this fine podcast. I don't know why that's so

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Speaker 3: hard to understand.

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Speaker 2: Three words path of totality. Do you know what that

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Speaker 2: refers to? Because in less than a week, you will

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Speaker 2: certainly know what that refers to.

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Speaker 4: Less than a week. What's happening?

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Speaker 3: Path?

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Speaker 2: Come my guys, Final four. It's all total solar eclipse

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Speaker 2: these days t minus six days in counting a total

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Speaker 2: solar eclipse. And if you live like the city of Dallas,

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Speaker 2: the city of Indianapolis, Cleveland, Buffalo, Niagara Falls nine Eastern

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Speaker 2: Canada path of totality solar eclipse, and you won't see

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Speaker 2: that again till two thousand and forty four, two forty five.

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Speaker 4: But we're not going to see anything from here.

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Speaker 2: Sixty four percent in the Phoenix metro area from what

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Speaker 2: I read, sixty four percent solar eclipse.

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Speaker 4: Are you going to get the special sunglasses midday Monday?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you need the special safety glasses PSA over here, Okay,

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Speaker 2: safety first, Paul Blart, you got to get the safety

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Speaker 3: Oh, can we can start calling you Paul Blart?

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely no, that's that's non negotiable. That's a non.

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Speaker 3: Start that was excellent.

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Speaker 2: That would be to put that, that would be me leaving. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I do not answer. I answered to virtually anything except

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Speaker 2: Paul Blart. I'm telling you that right now.

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Speaker 3: Okay. Sorry.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I now see that companies are

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Speaker 2: moon in front of the Sun thing, and they're like, uh,

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Speaker 2: they're putting the two products together. Whatever the company is

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Speaker 2: coming out with moonpie. Show hands who's had a moonpie before? Right,

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Speaker 2: They're coming out with a special solar It's a Sun

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Speaker 2: on this. It's all solar eclipse these days.

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Speaker 4: Danny, should we take a work funded trip to Dallas

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Speaker 4: to see the solar clips and do a podcast for Dallas?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the solar eclipse is so big New

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Speaker 2: York prison inmates are suing to watch the solar eclipse.

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Speaker 2: the religious rights because a total solar eclipse is integral

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Speaker 3: It's also intral to a possible escape when it's dark.

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Speaker 2: Now. Oh, by the way, if we are going to Dallas,

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Speaker 2: be pretty dang cool. We need to get on it. Wait,

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Speaker 3: Did you tell surface this is a content idea?

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Speaker 2: That's right? Gotta, I gotta. I'll work on that, Darren

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Speaker 2: like you do, sir. You know you work on your

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Speaker 2: the laptop during the actual podcast here. Okay, Cardinals Underground

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Speaker 2: I tie that into the draft?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but I'm intrigued.

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Speaker 2: I'd say the only event bigger in the month of

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Speaker 2: That would be my segue right there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the people playing the final four probably disappointed.

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Speaker 2: All right, especially when it's in town. You're right. So

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Speaker 2: here's the question at NFL dot com a few moments ago.

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Speaker 2: Will the first four picks in the twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft be quarterbacks for the first time ever?

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Speaker 4: First time ever?

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Speaker 2: Really, I say yes.

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Speaker 3: Because it helps your narrative.

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Speaker 2: A fourth QB for the first time ever. Quarterbacks will

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Speaker 2: go one, two, three, and four, meaning the Cardinals will

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Speaker 2: trade out, they'll maximize it, cash it in, and then boom.

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Speaker 2: Question is just how far back do they go? But

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing maniasi Ford Online one or two has the

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Speaker 3: The Giants would be pretty intriguing because you're only dropping

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Speaker 3: a couple of spots. Yep, But I don't know. I

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Speaker 3: this I can this has been fun to talk about.

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Speaker 3: I'm starting to lose my steam a little bit, or

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Speaker 3: at least, you know, I just you can't. I had

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Speaker 3: a couple of people in the mailbag asked this week

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Speaker 3: I'm like, why would you do it anymore than when

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Speaker 3: you're on the clock. Why would any team want to

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Speaker 2: I guess my only answer to trying to hash out

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Speaker 2: and you have competition, someone could trade up to you

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Speaker 2: talking about instead of the Cardinals, you're the Cardinals. Why

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Speaker 2: would you why would you not want to wait? What

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Speaker 2: if New England brokers its own deal to move out

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Speaker 2: willing to trade up now realize, you know what, I

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Speaker 3: My argument to that would be, if the team that's

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Speaker 3: have a chance to trade to three instead, why would

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Speaker 3: they trade with the Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's the cost of doing business. What is New

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Speaker 2: England asking? Maybe you get a better deal with the Cardinals?

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Speaker 2: New England is asking for the so the moon pie.

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Speaker 3: So, so there won't be a trade with New England.

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing, do you try?

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Speaker 3: I know what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: You try and circumnavigate newlan Well.

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Speaker 3: I feel like you're just driving it right back to

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Speaker 3: it's going to be the night.

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Speaker 2: I guess it falls under. A bird in the hand

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Speaker 2: is better than two in the bush, And I don't

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Speaker 2: want to hear about two birds in the bush. Maybe

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Speaker 2: I'll get to that that story a little bit later.

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Speaker 3: Bird on the hedge, two birds in the hedge.

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Speaker 2: Right exactly? That would mean by only thinking on that.

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Speaker 3: Pot I get it, But I just I don't see.

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Speaker 2: Especially if you want to finalize a deal with the

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Speaker 2: six is a lot more attractive than eleven, twelve or thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Let's get a deal done with six now because now

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Speaker 2: I get one of the big three receivers.

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Speaker 3: But again, why would the Giants trade up now?

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Speaker 2: Cause they just told you? Ownership says, you know, okay,

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Speaker 2: we need a franchise quarterback, but so let's make sure

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Speaker 2: we're in the top four because we believe there are

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Speaker 2: four franchise quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: Before I comment, can I be clear you're saying New

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Speaker 4: York would make a trade with the Cardinals right now? Yes,

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Speaker 4: So then what would stop New England from still making

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Speaker 4: to not get the quarterback they could possibly want through

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Speaker 3: No, well, you're what Paul is saying is that the

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Speaker 3: Giants apparently like four quarterbacks, which seems literally odd to me.

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Speaker 3: But okay, and that if any one of the four

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Speaker 4: I mean, if if you're in New York and you're

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Speaker 4: hearing to make a trade, you'd go for three.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what Darren needs over here, Darren needs

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Speaker 2: yet another mock draft Lancero line three point zero that

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just gonna before you get going on that

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Speaker 3: this is good stuff. I am gonna say I don't

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Speaker 3: need any more mock drafts because I'm addicted to the

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Speaker 3: Pro Football Focus mock draft thing, and I've done like

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Speaker 3: thirty of them. I did another one earlier today.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm just glad I made it through a weekend

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Speaker 4: without you sending me.

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Speaker 3: That's because I didn't send any to thank you. I

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Speaker 3: did do them. I did one.

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Speaker 1: You know what.

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Speaker 3: I did one yesterday where they draft they traded down

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Speaker 2: I take Umbradge with that. It's like umbridge with what

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Speaker 2: with multiple draft simulators, whatever you want to call it,

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Speaker 2: what is the software that you're engaging in the whole.

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Speaker 3: Thing FF mock draft simulator.

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Speaker 2: Because It's sort of like the person in the office

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Speaker 2: pool who submits like seventeen office brackets, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: thou shout only submit one for the March Madness off

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Speaker 2: this pool. I think they're different, right, I mean.

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Speaker 4: I do think Darren is a bit excessive with the

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Speaker 2: Well, it's got to be saying.

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Speaker 3: I will say it's helped me learn a lot of

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Speaker 3: the names of the guys that are out there, even

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Speaker 4: That's great if you want to do, and that's great.

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Speaker 4: I'm just glad that you didn't spam me all weekend

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Speaker 4: or after five o'clock with all your mock drafts.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna obviously have to send more to you so

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Speaker 3: that you enjoyed those.

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Speaker 2: See, there's there are several things in life nobody wants

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Speaker 4: And they will still people want to hear about my

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Speaker 2: You know, and they don't want to hear about what

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Speaker 2: the latest seventeenth iteration of your draft simulator results. Darren Urban,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just giving you some free is it

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Speaker 4: Didn't you pick one of the teams who's still in.

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Speaker 2: Land Zerline says the Cardinals will trade number four two Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: will get eleven and twenty three. Not enough, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: not enough, not enough. Where at number eleven the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: pick Dallas Turner, the edge out of Alabama. Cardinals then

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Speaker 2: isn't enough there to come from. Go from four to

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Speaker 4: It's interesting. I like the picks, and I like the

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Speaker 4: you're talking about that, My problem is you're not getting

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Speaker 3: Do you guys like the idea of where the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: all this, all these different ways that could go. Or

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Speaker 2: It's sort of like that quarterback competition slash controversy. It

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Speaker 2: Darren So, Yes, I welcome any and all conjecture and speculation,

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Speaker 3: I it feels that way. The Patriots is. It's really

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Speaker 3: tough for me to sit here and say, yeah, this

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Speaker 3: just that we had so much time to talk about it.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say something much worse.

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Speaker 4: You sure were.

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Speaker 3: We have so much time to talk about it, and

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Speaker 3: you talk about how I have gone overboard on mock drafts.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the simulator, that's probably true.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to deny that that at night, it

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Speaker 2: However, at least you can watch the Diamondbacks.

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Speaker 3: That's also fair. You really needed to work on that.

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Speaker 3: What everybody's doing that everybody's got multiple mock drafts. Everybody

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Speaker 2: So On Twitter, on social media, there was a term

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Speaker 2: give you a bitcoin update. So this pump and dump term,

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Speaker 2: The top three all need quarterback. You know what, if

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Speaker 2: I'm Mani assin Fort and company pump and dump, You're

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Speaker 2: gonna to your point. You're gonna pump up all these

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Speaker 4: There's no need for us and for it to pump

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Speaker 4: you're in a good place. There's no need for us

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Speaker 3: I say, I bet your money's not saying one word

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Speaker 2: Well, and if you miss, I'm looking at these comments

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Speaker 4: You should have gone out to him. Darren said, then

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Speaker 2: And then to wrap it up, he said, he plays

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Speaker 2: And then you had Tom pelisera remember reporting that JJ

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Speaker 3: Last Hello, I just I feel like you know, for

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Speaker 2: Land Zooline as a Cardinals trading with the Seahawks at sixteen,

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Speaker 3: You have to be mentally prepared because you're going to

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Speaker 4: isn't that worth staying there so that you have a

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Speaker 4: long term threat for your quarterback for your offense, and

440
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Speaker 4: I know that when it comes to building in the

441
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Speaker 4: trenches on the offense of or defensive line, those are

442
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Speaker 4: incredibly important. Right You have to give your quarterback time

443
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 4: and protection so he can throw to one of his receivers.

444
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Speaker 4: Near the end of last season, though, we saw how

445
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Speaker 4: ugly things could get if Kyler Murray did not have

446
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Speaker 4: somebody he could throw the ball to. So I'm just

447
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Speaker 4: curious what will be the final outcome, because I would

448
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Speaker 4: assume that's what the discussion is as you're debating between

449
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Speaker 4: getting more draft capital for a team that is desperately

450
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Speaker 4: still transitioning and has a lot of holes to fill,

451
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Speaker 4: or are one of these players so good and so

452
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Speaker 4: worth it that we're going to stay up four and

453
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Speaker 4: we're not going to get some extra picks. We'll make

454
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Speaker 4: do with what we have, or maybe make a trade

455
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Speaker 4: later on because one of these players is too good

456
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Speaker 4: to pass up.

457
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Speaker 3: See I don't I'm sure there's those discussions going on,

458
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Speaker 3: but my guess, judging by how Manty has talked to

459
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Speaker 3: us in the past, is that there is nothing that

460
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Speaker 3: is going to make that choice concrete until they're on

461
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Speaker 3: the clock, Monty says every time, we're always going to listen. Now,

462
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Speaker 3: maybe they decide player X, any of those receives are

463
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Speaker 3: generational to the point where we want to take one

464
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 3: of those of four, you would still I mean, let's okay,

465
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 3: argument's sake, Let's say Marvin Harrison or Roma dusee, but

466
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Speaker 3: we'll say Harrison for this argument. Marvin Harrison is generational,

467
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Speaker 3: and you believe he's generational, and you have every intention

468
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Speaker 3: of taking him. And then, for whatever reason, Drake May

469
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Speaker 3: is the fourth quarterback and somebody, holy crap, Drake May

470
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Speaker 3: is still available at four. And then they go and

471
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Speaker 3: Ricky Williams your butt in terms of an offer, and

472
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Speaker 3: you get You're getting basically an entire draft for that

473
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Speaker 3: one pick. The plan was to take Marvin Harrison. But

474
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Speaker 3: things change. And that's why I go back to what

475
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Speaker 3: Paul was saying about making the trade ahead of time.

476
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Speaker 3: You cannot make that trade ahead of time. You have

477
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Speaker 3: to wait there. You won't get in my opinion, you

478
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 3: will not get a better deal than the one that

479
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Speaker 3: will be facing you when that pick comes up. I

480
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 3: just don't I don't see how anybody offers you better

481
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 3: than that. Now you have to have the right circumstances

482
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 3: for that to come up. And if you're sold on

483
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Speaker 3: one of those players, I saw another you know, tape

484
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 3: breaker down or guy. I don't want to call him

485
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 3: a scout because it's don't work for a team, But

486
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Speaker 3: basically was saying, like those three receivers at the top,

487
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Speaker 3: Odoonsay Neighbors, and Marvin Harrison, this is a deep receiver class,

488
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Speaker 3: but there is a considerable gap between those three guys

489
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Speaker 3: and then everybody else. So you're gonna be able to

490
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Speaker 3: get a good receiver if you wait. But are they

491
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Speaker 3: going to be on the same level as maybe one

492
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Speaker 3: of those other three? And I think that's some of

493
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Speaker 3: the decision that has to go into.

494
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Speaker 2: This Trey Lance, right, the Trey Lance de owned ball

495
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: three first round picks, and I believe it was with

496
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Speaker 2: the Bears back in the day. Then the Niners come

497
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Speaker 2: up and trade with the Bears, and memory serves sounds good.

498
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Speaker 2: Well maybe it was Washington. I forget who it was exactly,

499
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Speaker 2: but the nin Ers blew the doors off that team

500
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Speaker 2: and they made a trade before the draft. So to

501
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Speaker 2: your point, yes, you'd rather wait till you're on the clock. Dolphins,

502
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Speaker 2: Dolphins you're right, Dolphins. But if the offer is so outstanding,

503
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Speaker 2: and that's what it would take. For example, a lot

504
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Speaker 2: of people made the point that Sean Payton, in his

505
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: two plus decades in the league, has a track record

506
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Speaker 2: of coming up for a player that he covets. Yes,

507
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 2: so you could have something in the works with Sean Payton.

508
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Speaker 2: But also to your point, does he love all four quarterbacks?

509
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Speaker 2: Probably not so if his guy is there at four

510
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, boom, Okay, the deal

511
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 2: is consummated, the deal is done, something that might have

512
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 2: been discussed, and then all of a sudden, all right,

513
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Speaker 2: that guy is there. We're on the clock at four,

514
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Speaker 2: Sean Payton, it's your move, okay, yep, pull the trigger.

515
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Speaker 3: The other thing when I think of like the Broncos,

516
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Speaker 3: and again this is all total speculation, but this is

517
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Speaker 3: what we do this time of yere is total speculation. Obviously,

518
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,479
Speaker 3: he was talking about how great it is to be Monty,

519
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 3: talking about how good some of these quarterbacks are. What

520
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 3: if Sean Payton is thinking the whole time, like I'm

521
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 3: gonna make sure that all these four quarterbacks get talked

522
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Speaker 3: up and taken in those first four picks. And then Bonnix,

523
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Speaker 3: who's the really the guy I like the most anyways,

524
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Speaker 3: is just gonna be sitting there at twelve because everybody's

525
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 3: gonna be over here and we're gonna do this misdirection

526
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Speaker 3: and then I'll just wait and get my guy that

527
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Speaker 3: I actually really want anyways.

528
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Speaker 2: And look, here's the thing with Denver in particular, is

529
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Speaker 2: they don't have a lot of assets right now. If

530
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Speaker 2: you're gonna get future first round picks out of Denver,

531
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Speaker 2: it's gonna be in twenty five, it's gonna be in

532
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Speaker 2: twenty six. Is MANI willing to wait? Wouldn't you rather

533
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Speaker 2: do a deal with Minnesota, who has two first round

534
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Speaker 2: picks in this year's draft? Maybe the Raiders. You know,

535
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: there's a lot of talk about the Raiders being a sleeper.

536
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Speaker 2: Do you realize I didn't? I know it's picking Raiders

537
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: are picking thirteen thirteen. Okay, The Raiders, ever since they

538
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 2: installed Antonio Pierce as what was then the interim head coach,

539
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 2: had the number one scoring defense from that point Week

540
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: nine through the end of the season. So and then

541
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Speaker 2: they just added Christian Wilkins. So if they can just

542
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: get some competent quarterback play the Raiders feel like they

543
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 2: would be in play for a postseason birth. So I

544
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 2: think the Raiders are a sleeper in the trade scenario

545
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: to come up. Are they really gonna go with Gardner

546
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: Minshew and Aidan O'Connell, just like it's Denver really going

547
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: with Jared Stidham. I think it's a resounding no. There's

548
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 2: no way Minnesota is gonna go with Sam Donald for

549
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: an entire season. No way, no chance. Your season is

550
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: done before it even begins. How do you sell that

551
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: to your fan base? They have to do something with quarterbacks?

552
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 3: See, I'm gonna argue.

553
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: I mean sometimes you know, if you want to wait

554
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 2: for Michael Pennix at number eleven or Bo Nix, Okay,

555
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 2: well here's Michael Penix went out there and killed it

556
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 2: in his pro day, for whatever that's worth, ran a

557
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: sub four six arm talent galore.

558
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 3: If Sam Donald is as bad as you are, as

559
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 3: bad as you're saying, not as bad as you are,

560
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: not totally wrong? Sorry about that? Yeah? Really, why wouldn't

561
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 3: Minnesota just stick it eleven twenty three, get two young

562
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 3: players at other positions, and then hopefully Sam Donold is

563
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 3: so bad you lose and you're at the top of

564
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Speaker 3: the draft.

565
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: Next year, Yeah, you could. You sure your ownership wants

566
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 2: to go through that, You sure the head coach wants

567
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: to go through that? Does the head coach survive?

568
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 3: That?

569
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: Does the GM survive that? I'm just throwing these things

570
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: out there. I'm just saying if you look at, for example,

571
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 2: these pro days, like the Giants were really well represented

572
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 2: at these recent pro days. No, that doesn't mean anything, right,

573
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,479
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, when you know, all of a sudden,

574
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: the Giants, when the Giants are out there and they

575
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: send they when the Giants send the head coach, the

576
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: GM and the quarterback coach all the way to Seattle

577
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: for the Michael Prannix Pro Day to watch it in person,

578
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: I think that's telling a little bit, a little bit.

579
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: The Giants would go out there for that, they would

580
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: have a huge contingent, you know. So you know the

581
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: Drake May Pro Day, Giants were all represented there. Washington, Denver,

582
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: and Minnesota very well represented at the Drake May Pro Day. Really,

583
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: many forecasts have Drake May escaping the top four or

584
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: five at worst, So it is curious to see those

585
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 2: teams in the middle of the first round.

586
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 4: So well represented, Yes, to a certain extent. You would

587
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 4: also think those teams would do their due diligence right

588
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 4: of You probably know there's a chance you need a quarterback. Okay, well,

589
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 4: probably going to have to move up. So let's at

590
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 4: least go see if if moving up would be worth

591
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 4: it for one of these quarterbacks.

592
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: I was going to say, alarm. And once again, what

593
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: did Sean Baton also say about mantiosa Fort when asked,

594
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: is it realistic Sean you could trade up and get

595
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 2: one of those top four quarterbacks? And he said, yes,

596
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: it is realistic. And then that's when he threw in

597
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: the it's good to be Monty right now, as in,

598
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 2: once again, that's the pivot point.

599
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 3: So Paul just wants to take everybody at face value,

600
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 3: and I appreciate them.

601
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: Throwing it out. Well, once again, if you can go

602
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: down to six and still get one of the top

603
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: three receivers. For example, reports say that Mali Neighbors is

604
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: visiting the Cardinals today on a top thirty visit.

605
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: Okay, I'd be surprised if they didn't have all three

606
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 3: of them. They didn't visit all three of those guys though.

607
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: Me too, so and that doesn't mean. And that's the

608
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: one thing.

609
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 4: Which at this point too is it's important for medicals

610
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 4: since not all of those players participating, you know, participating

611
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 4: in that the combine or their pro days.

612
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: Once again, the one area where I push back on

613
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior just a little bit, a little bit,

614
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: is that if you truly think he's such a generational

615
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: talent at the position, and why is there a lot

616
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: of noise, a lot of discussion, a lot of varying

617
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: opinions as to who's the best receiver. There's a lot

618
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 2: of noted NFL talent evaluators who are on the room

619
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: Rollmadonese Trade or Malik Neighbors versus Marvin Harrison Junior. So

620
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Speaker 2: if it was such a slam dunk and he's such

621
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: a once in a generation receiver, why are there two

622
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: other receivers in this draft who seemingly are competitive with him?

623
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Speaker 4: I wonder if it's at this It's just has been

624
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 4: so much talk about Harrison for so long that now

625
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 4: it's less about Harrison falling and more about maybe a

626
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 4: Doonesay or Neighbors impressing and seeing if the gap is

627
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 4: not as large as it was when the off season started.

628
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 3: I just, first of all, other than fans like who

629
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 3: called him generational. I mean all I heard from the

630
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 3: time he was a freshman that Trevor Lawrence was going

631
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,239
Speaker 3: to be generational. And I'm not a big fan of

632
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 3: those facts. I mean, I did think, you know, Larry

633
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 3: Fitzgerald was thought of very highly when he was coming out.

634
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: I don't remember anybody saying he was generational. He turned

635
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 3: out to be. How the hell are we supposed to

636
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: know that.

637
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 4: I'm coming off a very healthy discussion with Craig Off

638
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 4: a Cover two podcast about this and essentially the risk

639
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 4: of drafting a positional player like a wide receiver at four,

640
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 4: and I think we were all on the same page

641
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 4: at the end of the day. But pretty much people

642
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 4: want to say generational, and that makes people feel some

643
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 4: type of way because a wide receiver is a sexy

644
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 4: pick that that's a pick where you can easily see

645
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 4: the numbers and you can see the tangibles. A quarterback, yes,

646
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 4: but that's more of a realistic thought of someone you

647
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 4: would take four overall, or maybe a pass rusher, an

648
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 4: offensive lineman. Those are more of the positions that are

649
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 4: taken fourth overall and Craig's argument was, well, look where

650
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 4: Justin Jefferson was drafted, what middle bottom of the first round,

651
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 4: and look how good he is and all these receivers

652
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 4: and you don't really need to take one at four,

653
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 4: but at some point a player is going to be

654
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 4: worth it. And I think people have this hesitation of, oh, well,

655
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 4: everyone's saying generational and you don't know that, and that's

656
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 4: not worth the risk, when the reality is every top

657
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 4: four pick is a risk. I mean, how many quarterbacks

658
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 4: drafted in the top four in the lot, right? So

659
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 4: it's I agree with you. That's my long way of

660
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 4: saying that, of I don't like throwing out the term

661
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,959
Speaker 4: generational when we haven't seen these players step onto the field.

662
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 4: I also don't like that argument being used against drafting

663
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 4: a wide receiver fourth overall of oh everyone's calling him

664
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 4: generational or Hall of Fame talent, and I just don't

665
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 4: believe that. So we should take a tackle like you

666
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 4: have to take it for what it is at this

667
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 4: time of the year of nobody having anything else to

668
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 4: talk about besides the draft.

669
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 3: The thing is, and you you brought up Justin Jefferson,

670
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: but you talk about Justin Jefferson or AJ Brown or

671
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 3: whoever the great receivers are at this moment. Like when

672
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: I hear generational, I think of one of one for

673
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: a good long time. I don't I mean, Justin Jefferson's

674
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: pretty awesome. I don't know if I'm gonna say he's

675
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 3: one of one. Why why would Marvin Harrison be any different?

676
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 3: Like and and and that goes back like even as

677
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 3: great as Calvin Johnson was, and he was great, I

678
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 3: don't know if I call him generational because fitz was

679
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: playing at the same time, putting up similar type stuff.

680
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 2: Let's be honest, what sort of difference maker was Larry

681
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: Fitzgerald in between Kurt Warner and Carson Palmer. What sort

682
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: of difference maker last season was Justin Jefferson after Kirk

683
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: Cousins went, They're.

684
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,919
Speaker 3: Going to get some a certain segment of fans very

685
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 3: angry with you with that conversation.

686
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: Seeing the position itself is dependent and that the quarterback

687
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm saying, the quarterbacks protection, not.

688
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 3: That you're ripping on fits, but not at all.

689
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: I'm saying the position itself, which brings us back to

690
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: last week or the week before, where I threw out there,

691
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 2: how do we know that maniasin Ford even values the

692
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: receiver position at number four overall?

693
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 4: That's well, we were talking about the Rondo more trade.

694
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 3: Yes, so well, this is a great time to bring up, like,

695
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 3: where where is this Cardinals wide receiver room right now?

696
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 2: I mean, let's I mean, I.

697
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 3: Think I think it's fair to say they need somebody.

698
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 2: Michael Willis correct me if I'm wrong right now under

699
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 2: contract in the fold for this coming season. Michael Wilson,

700
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: Greg dortch Zach Paskell, Chris Moore, thirty one year old

701
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: free agent who's a fifth receiver special teams guy. So yes, Like,

702
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 2: if you look at the Lance zerline mock three point

703
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: zero that we just went through reverse engineer it, it's

704
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 2: not a fluke. The Cardinals ended up with a starting receiver,

705
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: a starting corner, and a starting edge player. Those are

706
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 2: the three most glaring needs on this roster right now,

707
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 2: and all three have gone unfulfilled in the off season.

708
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: By design. I'm guessing. I'm guessing, because it's coming to

709
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: early in this draft, I'm guessing that you have designs

710
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: on filling those three spots somewhere between number four and

711
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 2: number thirty five. Now, could a corner, a starting corner

712
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: be nabbed at thirty five? Absolutely, I think it's deep

713
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 2: enough you could get someone at thirty five. You could

714
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: even theoretically get that receiver at thirty five. I mean,

715
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 2: there's a lot of names of other guys in this

716
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 2: draft beyond the big three really tested well, that have

717
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 2: some really good film. Ad Mitchell out of Texas, Brian Thomas.

718
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: Obviously he's really been climbing. The Ricky Piersolls, the Keon

719
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 2: Coleman's Troy Franklin, who is a number one receiver, is

720
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: six ' to two and a burner for a bow

721
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 2: knicks at Oregon. And then the one that's coming up

722
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: right now, and our own Roy Green is cited as

723
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 2: a sleeper. Is the kid out of South Carolina. Xavier

724
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: Lagette six ' one two twenty five ran a four

725
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: to three nine and really was only featured as a

726
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: receiver this last season. He finally got over thirty targets

727
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: and he killed it. Apparently if you look at his film,

728
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 2: he's a natural pass catcher. He's got a body like

729
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: DJ Moore or at Deebo Samuel. He's a burner. So

730
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: I could definitely see the Cardinals getting a receiver at

731
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 2: twenty seven or thirty five and going corner and edge

732
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 2: before that.

733
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 3: It is interesting. Corner. I feel like there can be

734
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 3: some guys depending on the run, edge is the one

735
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 3: that's really I mean, there's a there's a handful of

736
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 3: edges that have been talked about in the first round, but.

737
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: Like Dallas Turner, Jared Verse Verse and John Robinson. Oh yeah,

738
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 2: lot too from UCLA.

739
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: But like the question becomes like who is there some

740
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 3: let's and again right now we're doing this without any trades.

741
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 3: None of them feel like they would go four. But

742
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 3: are they going to be there at twenty seven? You know?

743
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 2: Correct?

744
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 3: And maybe they will and maybe they won't. I don't know.

745
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: So if you do business with Minnesota, Denver, or Vegas eleven, twelve,

746
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 2: and thirteen, you figure you theoretically could get one of

747
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: those edge players right there.

748
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 4: I think if you're going to end up in that realm,

749
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 4: it would depending on, of course, how the board falls.

750
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 4: I mean, something crazy could happen and one of these

751
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 4: three receivers could end up down at eleven. I think

752
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 4: that lancezer Line mock draft three point zero would be

753
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 4: what I would feel most comfortable with looking at what

754
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 4: you need, the quality of those players, and how deep

755
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 4: those positions are of addressing an edge rusher and a cornerback,

756
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 4: and then you still get a good receiver who could

757
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 4: be one of your starters.

758
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 3: All right, here's my here's my question. Here's a good

759
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 3: question to none, to the two of you, what would

760
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 3: be a bigger surprise to you one of the top

761
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 3: three receivers falling too out of the top ten, or

762
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: quarterbacks going one, two, three, four.

763
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 2: Oh, the receiver's falling out. I think quarterbacks are going

764
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: one through four right now. I truly believe that there's

765
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 2: so many teams who have such a dire need for quarterback.

766
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 2: But those three Chargers are going receiver. Okay, so if

767
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 2: you go, that means at least one is gone. By five.

768
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 4: Jets probably going receiver, are.

769
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 3: They wouldn't they go offensive line? Maybe? Maybe somebody somebody

770
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 3: suggested the Jets might take a quarterback. Yeah, there's been

771
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 3: because Aaron Rodgers going to last year of his deal in.

772
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 4: Some way, and then it might run for Congress something.

773
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: What would happen with Aaron? You know, well, remember what

774
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: happened after the Packers drafted Jordan Love.

775
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 3: No, I don't remember what happened, Philip, Please let us know.

776
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers won another MVP the season after that, because

777
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: that's what it takes, because he was triggered. Because I think.

778
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 3: You've triggered all of us for two years.

779
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 4: I think he's easily triggered.

780
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, if the Jets want to get the most

781
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 2: out Aaron Rodgers, take a quarterback late first round. That's

782
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: my suggestion to the Jets right now, if you want

783
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 2: to maximize Aaron Rodgers.

784
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 4: So, I feel like I'd be more surprised if all

785
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 4: three receivers fell out of the top ten.

786
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 3: I'm not saying all three. I was saying one of

787
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 3: the three fell out of the top one of the three. Yeah,

788
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 3: I don't think all of them would fall out. I'm

789
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 3: saying I.

790
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 4: Think there's a very slim chance that could happen.

791
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: So we're saying, if quarterbacks go one through four, you're saying,

792
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 3: then all three of those receivers goal in the next

793
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 3: six picks.

794
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: Yes, that would be my expectation, just based on just

795
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: position players in the draft. There's a lot of talent

796
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: evaluators who contend those are the top three position players

797
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 2: beyond quarterback in this draft period because it doesn't have

798
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 2: a generational edge rusher, corner. There's no sauce guarders going

799
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: to generation then there's none of that's you know, those

800
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 2: players don't exist in this draft at those positions. This

801
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: is a receiver rich draft that an offensive line look.

802
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 2: Cardinals could get that offensive tackle franchise offensive tackle at

803
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:29,479
Speaker 2: thirty five.

804
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 3: You could make the argument, though, because it's so deep

805
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 3: and wide receiver, maybe those receivers do drop because all

806
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 3: the teams are like, we need to get these other

807
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 3: guys first. We can get receivers later.

808
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 2: Yep, And I think the Cardinals might fall into that.

809
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: You know what, we need to get an edge. We

810
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 2: need to get a corner before receiver. Because there's select

811
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: few edge players and corners in this draft. There's a

812
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: ton of receivers. We can wait and draft that position later.

813
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 4: I am all for taking a long time offensive tackle.

814
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 4: Question to you is, if you've got Paris Johnson Junior

815
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 4: on the right side, you just gave a good amount

816
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 4: of money to Jonah Williams to sign a free agency

817
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 4: presumably on the left, those could possibly change. What do

818
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 4: you do with the tackle at thirty five?

819
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 2: Well, you make sure in this this is the next level,

820
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 2: but you make sure that rookie tackle can play guard. Yeap,

821
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 2: And you might answer for a year or two. The

822
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: kid out of Oregon State Fuaga, I think is the

823
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: last name really athletic. Really, Bursatil has played both.

824
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 3: And there are guys who come into this league as tackles.

825
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 3: They they're asked to play guard at first, and then

826
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 3: they're so good at it they people just leave them there.

827
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 3: You could make the argument, you know, the Cardinals made

828
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: Leonard Davis a guard back in the day, the number

829
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: two overall pick. He was drafted as a tackle. They

830
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 3: made him a guard at first. They kept him as

831
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: a guard for his first three seasons. Danny Green came

832
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 3: in here and said, we're paying you too much money,

833
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 3: You're too big, you have to be a tackle. They

834
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: made him a tackle. He was solid, okay, and then

835
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 3: he left as a free agent, went back to playing

836
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 3: guard with the Dallas Cowboys and made like twenty seven

837
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 3: Pro Bowls in a row. So, I mean, just because

838
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 3: you draft him as a tackle doesn't mean and if

839
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 3: you play him as a guard, maybe maybe that works out.

840
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 3: But either way, if you get a high level guy.

841
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 3: You know that makes sense.

842
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 4: I like that. I was just curious.

843
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: I know, by the way, do you see the Good

844
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: Morning Football just about it? A week ago they are

845
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 2: no longer on the air. Their penultimate show, second to

846
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 2: last show, they had a panel question which team needs

847
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 2: to nail its first round pick, and Jason mccordy answered

848
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals. When asked why, he said, well, when

849
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 2: you watch the team on film, they're better than you think.

850
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 2: This was Jason mccordy, and I had a chance to

851
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: be around Paris Johnson Junior this season, and now you

852
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 2: see this is Jason McCarty saying this. He said, now

853
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: you need to take the next step by either Marvin

854
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: Harrison Junior or trading back. Take that next step like

855
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: Houston took last year. And then Kyle Brandt chimed in,

856
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,959
Speaker 2: it doesn't sound like a compliment, but the toughest four

857
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 2: win team you will see in a long time the

858
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals. So they're thinking irrationale. If I'm translating this correctly,

859
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: And as I was watching, I hit rewind and I

860
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: transcribed it is that. Okay, yes, only a four win season,

861
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: but there's a lot to like on film, and when

862
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 2: you fortify the roster, they put in the culture, they

863
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: put in the playbook. They know what they want, they

864
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: know what they need, and if you can fill a

865
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 2: couple of these gaping holes with eleven picks as it

866
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 2: stands right now in this draft, plus what you did

867
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 2: in free agency, if you're looking for a team, and

868
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: it happens every year worse to first. Now I'm not

869
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: saying in this division it's not like the Texans Division,

870
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 2: but if you're really looking to take that next step,

871
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 2: the Cardinals realistically could be portrayed as that team if

872
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 2: indeed they nail the first round, which was the genesis

873
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 2: of the question.

874
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 4: I think that makes sense. You can't have back to

875
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 4: back seasons of you are a really competitive, good four

876
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 4: win team. This is the time the Cardinals are going

877
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 4: to have to make a jump. I'm not sitting here

878
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 4: saying they're going to have twelve wins by any means.

879
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 4: You absolutely need to see a jump in production and

880
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 4: wins and all that everything else off the field, or

881
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 4: when it comes to the effort that is being put

882
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 4: out there that was all set this year. This is

883
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 4: the time where you need to start seeing those wins

884
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 4: start to increase in that win column. So I would

885
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 4: agree with that.

886
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: And guess what, you have a two time Pro Bowl quarterback.

887
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 2: It's not like you're breaking in a rookie quarterback. Now

888
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: what CJ. Stroud did last year, that's why it defied

889
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: all expectations. Rookie quarterbacks don't do that in NFL history.

890
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 3: Hey, you tell me the Cardinals pick from the Texans

891
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 3: isn't in the top five.

892
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: Once again, is another reason why the Cardinals need the

893
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: QB kicker. The surcharge, the extra resort fee, if you will,

894
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 2: added to number four overall because you don't know where

895
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: that future first round pick is going to wind up.

896
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 4: If there's a surcharge to get picked up or dropped

897
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 4: off from a ride share to the airport, there should

898
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 4: absolutely be a quarterback surcharge if you're trading in the

899
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 4: NFL draft.

900
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: Thank you, Danny, appreciate that. Yes, indeed, yes, that's so.

901
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: So.

902
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: Once again, you have the rest of the roster that

903
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: you're filling in. But don't forget you now have the

904
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: full season the services of a Kyler Murray knock On Wood,

905
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 2: and you have a full off season that he didn't

906
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: have last year to get that chemistry going with his receivers,

907
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 2: which we can all admit in hindsight was lacking at times,

908
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: and finally came to fruition in those last two or

909
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 2: three games. And so okay, I mean, you saw Kyler

910
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 2: Murray with the ability to bring a team back and

911
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: get a last second win against Atlanta at home. You

912
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 2: saw what he did in the comb on the road

913
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 2: at Philadelphia. He's a proven entity in the NFL. It's

914
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: not like your quarterback is an unknown. So if you

915
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: can fill in lesser positions on any roster behind the quarterback,

916
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: then guess what, you go in every game virtually with

917
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: a chance to win. And that, to me is what's

918
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: so intriguing about the twenty twenty four season. If indeed

919
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 2: you're able to nail the draft and get some of

920
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 2: these plug and play rookies, which is always dicey. A

921
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: rookie doesn't matter how talented they look. At dj Umpries

922
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: right didn't play the entirety of his first season. You

923
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 2: can go back through Cardinals history and there were solid

924
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 2: first round picks who weren't necessarily reliable their first year.

925
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: Michael Floyd didn't get much out of a Michael Floyd

926
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 2: his first year as a receiver. He had all the measurables,

927
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 2: he had all the experience at a Notre Dame. He

928
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 2: ended up being having a couple of good seasons later,

929
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: but that rookie season wasn't much to speak of.

930
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 3: Although they weren't a very good team his rookie season either,

931
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 3: so with like five starting quarterbacks or whatever it was

932
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 3: that year.

933
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 2: Because at receiver and at corner in particular, you're counting

934
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 2: on someone coming in and being the leader, the best

935
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: player in that room from day one. Arguably Sean Murphy

936
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: Bunty might have something to say about that in the

937
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 2: corner room. But I mean, if you're going after a

938
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 2: terry On Arnold or a Quinian Mitchell and it's gonna

939
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: be around ten or eleven or twelve in this draft, yeah,

940
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 2: that guy's cornerback one. I think from day one to me,

941
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 2: how many.

942
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: Corner How many cornerbacks do you think they if they

943
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 3: get one good one, is that good enough for you?

944
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: Or you got to you gotta get one in the

945
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: first round and then one in front of just you, like.

946
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 4: Is that good enough for you?

947
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: I want to know, Paul, he's cross examining me. That's cool.

948
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 2: I can take it.

949
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 3: No, No, I wasn't mean to be.

950
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 2: Might be he might be badgering the witness a little bit.

951
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 2: That's right, that's it. Those are fighting words. So yes,

952
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 2: that's that's where I mean. Am I missing any other

953
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: position laws are feasible in the first round beyond corner

954
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: edge receiver? I mean, if they come out and take

955
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: guard in the first round. Of course, d tackle. I

956
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: could see d tackle in the first round.

957
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 3: A defensive tackle makes sense. I don't know. I wouldn't

958
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 3: be shocked if they if they found a guard or

959
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 3: a center that's really good, that a guy that could

960
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 3: maybe play both. And then and you could decide if

961
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 3: you want to put fro Hole at center or guard.

962
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 2: I mean, if you gave me Zach Fraser the West

963
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: Virginia Center at number thirty five, right.

964
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 3: You're just you're just trying to pump up.

965
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 2: Give me no, just kid, just give me Wolf. The

966
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: wolf is so clueless about his own alma mater. He's

967
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 2: all over Graham Barton. I mean, who takes offensive lineman

968
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 2: out of Duke? Come on, let's go for the four

969
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: time high school heavyweight state wrestling champ. And four year

970
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: starter at West Virginia. Zach Fraser, what was.

971
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 4: Your answer to the Darren's question about how many cornerbacks

972
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 4: will please you in the draft?

973
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: Essentially, I'd say there's this might be a little this

974
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: might be a bit liberal. I think there's a half

975
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: dozen round one worthy corners in this draft.

976
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 3: Okay, No, I guess where I was going where that was?

977
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 4: If the draft in the first round, are you I'm.

978
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: Good, I'm good. You can get you can get a

979
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: veteran After the draft, there's there's still veterans out on

980
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: the street. Fill that room. You got around one corner,

981
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:14,959
Speaker 2: Sean Murphy.

982
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 3: What if what if you get like a.

983
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 2: Garrett Williams and then add one more so you have four? Legit?

984
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 3: What if you have a third round corner and that's the.

985
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 2: First corner you take in the drafts mm, well, then

986
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: then you have to go on spend some money in

987
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 2: free agency, I think to get a legit.

988
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 3: Those guys aren't out there.

989
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: There are a couple of decent, big names still out

990
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 2: there waiting for a big pay day.

991
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 3: I'd have to look.

992
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: So that's that would be my thinking on that, or

993
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 2: guess what you're going on with a lot of zone

994
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 2: coverage this year. That's what you're doing, so.

995
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 3: It's going to be fascinating.

996
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: Okay, what else would we did? We want to cover?

997
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 2: State Farm Stadium is going to be host of the

998
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 2: final four Darren Urban Big Basketball Hoops a haul like

999
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 2: Darren Urban. Are you going no?

1000
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 3: No? No, I mean I don't unless somebody wants to

1001
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 3: give me tickets and you know where to find me

1002
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 3: here at eighty seven oh one South Hardy Drive, Tempe, Arizona.

1003
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 2: Uh four.

1004
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 4: Don't give away our address there, Yeah.

1005
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 3: Because you can't find the address anywhere on the internet.

1006
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 2: Maybe I should change the topic and throw out there.

1007
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: Are the Cardinals really going to draft a quarter a

1008
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: running back in this draft? Are they going to draft

1009
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 2: a running back in this draft? Yes?

1010
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 3: I know that's yes. Question you do?

1011
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: I think late day three? No earlier than Day three.

1012
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 3: You've been kind of stumping for a running back.

1013
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: Now you have eleven picks. One of them should be

1014
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 2: a running back. Yes. If you had six or seven picks, no,

1015
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 2: But with eleven picks, yes.

1016
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 3: If you finish with eleven picks, you you don't know

1017
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 3: what they're gonna what Monty is gonna do with the

1018
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 3: packages and stuff.

1019
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see you know. Uh, but you know, if

1020
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 2: you're if you have designs on a path of totality,

1021
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 2: as we mentioned with the eclipse, totality in this draft

1022
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 2: would be to get a Day three running back, that's fine,

1023
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 2: So I'd throw it out there.

1024
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 3: Are you gonna? Are you gonna sick? Peko a guyo on.

1025
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 2: Your That was gonna be my question.

1026
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 4: What was the final name of your dog? I forgot

1027
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 4: to ask in the podcast last week as we talked

1028
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 4: to you, there were about twelve names you were deciding between.

1029
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 2: And below please again, Cheeto Cheetoh was the winner. I

1030
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 2: had no saying it whatsoever. Once again three to one

1031
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 2: outvoted in my own house. Wait, what did you work for?

1032
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 2: I didn't want neither the dog nor the name, and

1033
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:28,479
Speaker 2: now I have both.

1034
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 4: Well, how's it been with the dog? You know, because

1035
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 4: you were complaining that there were two dog beds in

1036
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 4: the house, and I was trying to explain to you, well, yes,

1037
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 4: of course you want the dog to be in the

1038
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 4: room where the family is, and you want them to

1039
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 4: have a comfortable spot. I don't know why that was

1040
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 4: so crazy to you. I would have three dog beds,

1041
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 4: Am I see double here, dog.

1042
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 2: We have two brand new dog beds. Didn't I just

1043
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 2: see a brand new dog bed in the other room,

1044
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: and now I'm standing in front of another one. Is

1045
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: that truly necessary?

1046
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 4: Yes?

1047
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 3: Okay, how many pall beeds are in that house?

1048
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1049
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 4: Exactly, well said, Wait, so are you liking the dog?

1050
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 4: You're not walking in or.

1051
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 2: Taking care of it, tolerating the dog. I'm dealing with

1052
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 2: a dog.

1053
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 3: Now.

1054
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 2: The dog does have a propensity to steal socks. He

1055
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 2: thinks it's funny to shun all his toys and turn

1056
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 2: your sock into a toy, so he'll steal the sock.

1057
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: If you're missing a sock, where's Cheeto? He's got my

1058
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 2: sock somewhere. So there's that.

1059
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 3: Now.

1060
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 2: I do have an instance with some wildlife hitting my

1061
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 2: back window, a couple of birds who I tried to deploy. Cheeto.

1062
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 2: No free lunches around here. Your job is to get

1063
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: out there at the crack of dawn.

1064
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 4: And you know you're a chiwawah wiener dog is Yes, he.

1065
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 2: Needs to be a watch dog and get out there

1066
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: and show these birds away. Okay, before I take this

1067
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 2: seventeen year old punk's baby gun and take matters into

1068
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 2: my own hands out there, because he's waking everyone up

1069
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: at the crack of dawn. But apparently that's an absurd

1070
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 2: expectation to expect the dog to get out there and

1071
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 2: guard the back of the house.

1072
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 4: A type of dog, Yes, we see.

1073
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: So apparently the dog is so small that he's how

1074
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: small is that? Apparently he can be the target of

1075
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: a hawk or owl. Yeah, you have to care so you.

1076
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 3: Those outer outer reaches of you.

1077
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, they make though, they make collars or like harnesses

1078
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 4: that you put on the dog in the backyard that

1079
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 4: have spikes on them, so that animals.

1080
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 3: I wait a minute, I think I saw that dog

1081
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 3: in some post apocalypic.

1082
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 2: So bad Max. So, once I found out that the

1083
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 2: dog was prone to being picked off by a bird

1084
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 2: of prey, said well, why don't we trade this dog

1085
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Speaker 2: back in we're still within a month on a bigger dog.

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Speaker 2: And that didn't go over very well. I was portrayed

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Speaker 2: as heartless.

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Speaker 3: Well, mostly it's because they didn't want to name some

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Speaker 3: other bigger dog Cheeto.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's been a process, Danny, it's been a process.

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Speaker 2: So we'll get there. By the way, I'm a soliciting

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Speaker 2: dog sitters. The two of you are volunt tearing during

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Speaker 2: some vacation time.

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Speaker 4: So the money good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So do you see the SpaceX launch out the

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Speaker 2: back of your apartment? Danny? You caught the first one.

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Speaker 2: You see the other one over the weekend? There was

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Speaker 2: another one?

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Speaker 3: Was that the path of Totality?

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Speaker 2: You're right, Darren, forget that because we have something much

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Speaker 2: better coming our way. It's gonna be the it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be the total solar eclipse.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna sidestep any elon mentions here.

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Speaker 2: By the way, if you're in the Dallas are and

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00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 2: then if it's Dallas or if it's in Canada, four minutes,

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Speaker 2: four minutes and twenty eight seconds of complete darkness in

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Speaker 2: the middle of the day, I don't know. It's pretty much.

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Speaker 2: So I tell Wolf about his native Buffalo. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Buffalo is pretty much Canada, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: We should have sold off Buffalo to Toronto years ago.

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Speaker 3: We go to Buffalo this year.

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Speaker 2: That is right, you're right about that. So, by the way,

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Speaker 2: any intel and where the joint practice is going to

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Speaker 2: be held? See you guys? Are you guys?

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Speaker 3: I just got the Susannah.

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Speaker 2: I'm always the last one to know these things. I

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Speaker 2: know that you two are in the know, and you're

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Speaker 2: just not letting it beat out.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to wrap up this edition of Cardinals

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Speaker 2: Underground so I can figure out where the joint practice

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Speaker 2: is going to be held. And that'll do it. I'll

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