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Speaker 1: fifty five, and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 1: Poda Baker, What Heart? What rent?

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Speaker 3: This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again,

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Speaker 1: so more hurry match.

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Speaker 2: Who Here's Craig Trieler.

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Speaker 1: So a brief aside before we really hit the wide

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Speaker 1: But if for whatever reason I was able to, there

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Speaker 1: is no way, zero chance I would subject myself to

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Speaker 3: You know, I catch a lot of strays around here,

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Speaker 3: and I think I have pretty thick skin. It ain't

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Speaker 3: the motivation was. I'm not sure if he got paid

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Speaker 3: It's another thing when it's televised to a global audience.

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Speaker 1: It did seem like we were in that locker room

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Speaker 3: There's no way, I mean, there was Drew Bledsoe got

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Speaker 3: Drew Bledsoe. Of course, he was the quarterback who Tom

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Speaker 1: Well, speaking of one Marvin Harrison Junior, you and I,

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Speaker 1: And part of that visit, I'm guessing include did Paris

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Speaker 1: How long have you guys been communicating this and maybe

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Speaker 5: Before he even got drafted here, we've been talking about

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Speaker 3: So so what was the compete level like in those drills?

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Speaker 1: Based on that competition in college. How ready are you

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Speaker 5: I think I'm really ready, but I got to go

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Speaker 4: I have to do this.

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Speaker 3: During your press conference, Marvin Harrison Junior as our guest,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a long season.

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Speaker 5: I mean everything? Really, I think you can never be

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Speaker 3: What are your fondest memories of your dad's career Hall

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Speaker 1: I got to tell you the expectations that the Bird

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Speaker 4: I've not met her spoken with fits.

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Speaker 3: Remember, Larry is very fond of saying that, Look, the

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Speaker 5: Just who you are as a person, Like what's your

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I just like to be in the house,

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Speaker 3: What's more exhausting three overtime game or the thirty six

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Speaker 4: Day the thirty six hours. Ok, here's a draft day

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Speaker 3: My last question has to do with Kyler Murray. Man,

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Speaker 3: That must have made you feel good.

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Speaker 5: And it makes me feel great to have the support

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Speaker 4: Now, so now I have to go to earn his trust.

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Speaker 4: And here he is, Kyler Murray speaking of the devil.

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Speaker 3: Why don't you sit in grab a seat, sir.

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Speaker 4: I'm ready to go. Manah, all right, that's good.

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Speaker 1: Well, the time and I'm better, I mean great time.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you, Michael Wilson, I was interviewing him

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Speaker 3: on stage draft. We interviewed you at the draft party,

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Speaker 3: and I asked and he said, you know, because Kyler

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Speaker 3: didn't have an off season. He's coming off injury last year,

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Speaker 3: so it took him a while to earn the trust.

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Speaker 3: You mention that what goes into that earned the trust.

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Speaker 5: Of a petition, hapetition each and every single day when

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Speaker 5: the ball comes went away, make a play for him.

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Speaker 5: I just want him to succeed, man, I want him

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Speaker 5: to reach all his goals. I just want to do

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Speaker 5: my part and helping him do that.

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Speaker 1: Marvin, congratulations, welcome and well considering k one just Bart

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Speaker 1: actually got some work to do.

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Speaker 3: I think we just met your biggest fan.

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Speaker 4: All right, thank you very much, appreciate you. Guys.

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Speaker 1: Got to tell you, Paul really enjoyed our conversation with

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Speaker 1: Marvin and just meeting him, spending a little bit more

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Speaker 1: time to get to know him. And yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: great visual if you haven't seen it already, but it

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Speaker 1: was posted all over social as far as Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: coming in and being the fourth person of our conversation here.

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Speaker 1: But you hear a lot of people, gentle managers or

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Speaker 1: head coaches say the moment's not too big for a player.

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Speaker 1: You listen to Marvin and he is ready for this,

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Speaker 1: and he has the right mindset. He has to prove it.

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Speaker 1: Nothing's given to him. But when he mentioned about having

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Speaker 1: Harrison Junior on the back of his jersey, it's more

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Speaker 1: meaningful than maybe what's on the front of the jersey,

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Speaker 1: especially considering who his father is and the expectations that

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Speaker 1: people have, But I don't think they're any higher than

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Speaker 1: what he has for himself to try to equal or

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Speaker 1: top a Hall of Fame wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: And it's interesting that he did acknowledge how much it

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Speaker 3: has driven him to live up to that name on

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Speaker 3: the back of his jersey. So obviously there's pressure that

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Speaker 3: goes along with it. That's why I didn't want to

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Speaker 3: ask that question. It's sort of captain obvious, but how

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Speaker 3: much has it really driven him to the achievements that

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Speaker 3: he's had where he was a Heisman finalist and the Blittant,

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Speaker 3: a Cough Award winner, and there he was in his

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Speaker 3: first start as a true freshman in the Rose Bowl

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Speaker 3: and three touchdown catches in Pasadena. So yes, it has

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Speaker 3: to do with his dad. It has to do with

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Speaker 3: as he said, and that was a great question. You

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Speaker 3: asked him about how much of your dad's game is

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Speaker 3: in your game and he jumped on that. He said

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Speaker 3: a lot. And that's high praise in that his dad

486
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Speaker 3: didn't use his size to win. His dad one is

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Speaker 3: an accomplished, refined receiver. And that's one of the first

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Speaker 3: things that maniasin Ford offered in terms of a scouting

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Speaker 3: report on Marvin Harrison junior, big man who runs routes

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Speaker 3: like a smaller man, and that's an ultimate compliment, just

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Speaker 3: how refined he is in his skills. But now you're

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Speaker 3: that good of a route runner. And by the way,

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Speaker 3: they went to c J. Stroud's Pro Day film. Maniasin

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Speaker 3: Ford offered up in a recent interview that to see

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Speaker 3: him running on a pro day because he didn't have

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Speaker 3: a pro day obviously didn't have a combine, but to

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Speaker 3: see all those routes he ran two years ago and

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Speaker 3: c J. Stroud's prodey just was another box eight check,

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Speaker 3: another confirmation, affirmation of what they were getting in a

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Speaker 3: Marvin Harriston junior and how good he is in that

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Speaker 3: aspect of his game. So now you give him the

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Speaker 3: entire offseason with his quarterback. By the way, folks, that

503
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Speaker 3: was not by design, that was not planned. That was

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Speaker 3: completely organic and spontaneous. In fact, we had no idea

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Speaker 3: he was even on the other side of the glass

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Speaker 3: because in our angle we couldn't see that Kyler Murray

507
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Speaker 3: was there when he busted in seemingly on cue. And

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Speaker 3: you can tell the affinity that Kyler has for Marvin

509
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Speaker 3: Harrison Junior. That's exactly what he had on his Christmas

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Speaker 3: wish list.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the video that Kyler posted the night of the draft,

512
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Speaker 1: just the excitement level to have a number one playmaker,

513
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Speaker 1: another weapon that he can throw to. And then again

514
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Speaker 1: what we see this weekend with rookie Minni Caamp, the

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Speaker 1: expectations that people are going to have in the comparisons

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Speaker 1: to Larry Fitzgerald. But to hear Marvin mentioned fitz didn't

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Speaker 1: drop a lot of passes, and I found that interesting

518
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Speaker 1: because what is the statistics and what we hear it

519
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Speaker 1: all the time. Not sure if it's quite true, but

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Speaker 1: fitz had more tackles than he had drop passes in

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Speaker 1: his career. Now, again I don't know if that's true,

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Speaker 1: but that's kind of been the tag with fits and

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Speaker 1: his resume. But a good wide receiver is going to

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Speaker 1: catch everything thrown his direction. If you get a hand

525
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Speaker 1: on it, they expect to pull it in. And if

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Speaker 1: you don't, then you make sure that no one else

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Speaker 1: is able to and you knock that ball to the ground.

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Speaker 1: But just making sure you secure the football before you

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Speaker 1: can do anything else, because if you drop it, well

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what your yard did, your touchdowns because

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Speaker 1: you don't.

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Speaker 4: Have the rock.

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Speaker 3: And what's intriguing is okay, I want you to flash

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Speaker 3: back twenty years ago. Larry Fitzgerald was drafted early in

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Speaker 3: his career. Could you name a single other receiver to

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Speaker 3: come out of pit No, So I'm intrigued. Maybe I'm

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Speaker 3: the only one. But that's why I asked him about.

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Speaker 3: He's a true freshman. He's competing against Garrett Wilson and

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Speaker 3: Chris o' lobby and Jackson Smith and Jigman and then

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Speaker 3: he threw in Jamison Williams. So I forgot started at

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Speaker 3: Ohio State, then went to Alabama end up being a

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Speaker 3: top fifteen pick of the Lions even though he was injured.

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Speaker 3: So think about that room. Think about those four guys

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Speaker 3: in their five guys, including Marvin Harrison Junior. Think of

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Speaker 3: how he had to come in and compete just to

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Speaker 3: try and keep up with that sort of first round

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Speaker 3: talent every one of those guys. So, now, if you're

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Speaker 3: trying to project forward, all right, what are the odds

549
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Speaker 3: that he can come in and make an instant impact

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Speaker 3: as number four overall? I'd say it's pretty good because

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Speaker 3: he's been there and done that in his life where

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Speaker 3: he's come in, he's looked around and said, oh boy,

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Speaker 3: I'm around some premium talent here. In fact, everyone might

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Speaker 3: be better than me right now, and everyone's definitely more

555
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Speaker 3: experienced than me. But so for him to have that

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Speaker 3: same transition now to the NFL, and what's realistic? And

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Speaker 3: so I went back and I just looked up the

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Speaker 3: rookie years for Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase. Justin jeff

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Speaker 3: Jefferson twenty twenty had eighty eight grabs for an exact

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Speaker 3: fourteen hundred yards, receiving seven touchdowns, and a Pro Bowl

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Speaker 3: appearance in twenty twenty one. The next year, Jamar Chase

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Speaker 3: was taking fifth overall. He went eighty one catches one

563
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Speaker 3: thy four hundred and fifty five yards receiving his rookie

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Speaker 3: year and thirteen touchdowns. He was the offensive rookie of

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Speaker 3: the year by a mile, and he went to the

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Speaker 3: Pro Bowl as well. Now I'm not putting those expectations

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Speaker 3: on Marvin Harrison Junior, but what I am saying is

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Speaker 3: I'd say he's capable of that if he has a

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Speaker 3: healthy quarterback knock on wood the entirety of this upcoming season,

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Speaker 3: he's capable of approaching some of those numbers.

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Speaker 1: A one thousand yard season, which we haven't seen a

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Speaker 1: lot of. In fact, the last time it's happened was

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: D hop did it.

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Speaker 1: So once in the past six seasons has a Cardinals

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Speaker 1: wide receiver or pass catcher hit that one thousand yard mark.

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Speaker 1: I certainly think that's a fair expectation. Again, you stay healthy,

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Speaker 1: Kyler stays healthy, the offense is moving the ball up

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Speaker 1: and down the field. One thousand yards that's kind of

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Speaker 1: the benchmark for elite wide receivers or Pro Bowl wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: I would say that that is something that should be

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Speaker 1: the targets, at least from our fan perspective. Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: something different for him, but one thousand yards that should

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Speaker 1: be a yearly occurrence for someone with that skill set.

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Speaker 3: In seventeen regular season games, yes, I would agree, even

586
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Speaker 3: though you're gonna have a very balanced offense. Dare I

587
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Speaker 3: say a run first offense the whole. James Connor and

588
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Speaker 3: Trey Benson and whoever else in offense have finished top

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Speaker 3: five in rushing a year ago, so there's no doubt

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Speaker 3: that they want to run the ball. But now with

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Speaker 3: the benefit of an offseason, the benefit of your starting

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Speaker 3: quarterback with two Pro Bowls on his resume, the benefit

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Speaker 3: of your quarterback having an offseason with the receivers so

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Speaker 3: they can develop that chemistry. Maybe just maybe last year

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Speaker 3: and how often the Cardinals ran the ball was out

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Speaker 3: of necessity. This year, okay, now you have your choice,

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Speaker 3: you have your option. What is the offense going to

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Speaker 3: look like? Is it gonna look as run heavy as

599
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Speaker 3: it did last year? Or was that a good coaching

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Speaker 3: staff assessing the talent in the room and saying, our

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Speaker 3: best way to win, our best bait to move the

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Speaker 3: football is as follows. Handed to James Connor, Let's go

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Speaker 3: straight ahead, you know, plow full speed ahead now this

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Speaker 3: year okay, if you have weapons and now you have

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Speaker 3: Marvin Arrison junior and okay, and you like your offensive

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Speaker 3: line even more. And guess what, Kyler Murray has the

607
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Speaker 3: full off season to develop that chemistry that might have

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Speaker 3: been lacking until you got to December and January of

609
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Speaker 3: last year. What does that mean in terms of run

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Speaker 3: pass option and how often we're gonna see either one.

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Speaker 1: Oh, and don't forget Trey McBride and the step that

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Speaker 1: he took, yeah last year, especially late in that second

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Speaker 1: half of the season with Kyler Murray. And now all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, you've got a true wide out. You've

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Speaker 1: got Marvin Harrison on one side, Michael Wilson on the other,

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Speaker 1: Trey McBride sitting there, James Connor in the backfield. Those

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Speaker 1: are four pretty good options for Kyler Murray. And let's

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Speaker 1: not forget about the other wide receivers that are in

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Speaker 1: the room and who can take that next step, whether

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Speaker 1: that's a Greg Dortch or Zach Pascal or Chris Moore

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Speaker 1: that they had in the in free agency. This is

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Speaker 1: an offense that potentially could put up, yes, a lot

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Speaker 1: of yards, but more importantly, get into that end zone

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Speaker 1: and not settle for field goals.

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Speaker 3: That's a great point about Trey McBride. Trey McBride in

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Speaker 3: September was not the same player we saw in November, December,

627
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Speaker 3: and January. It's almost like a totally different player win

628
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Speaker 3: given the opportunity after the season ending injury to zach Ertz,

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Speaker 3: look at how he developed. So you're absolutely right on

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Speaker 3: that front. And by the way, if you want to

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Speaker 3: talk about rookie receivers, you can't tell me that six

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Speaker 3: round pick Tejon Palmer out of UAB and a guy

633
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Speaker 3: I've heard a lot about and the Cardinals had to

634
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Speaker 3: invest in heavily to sign him away from other teams.

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Speaker 3: Xavier Weaver out of Colorado, another guy with size and

636
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Speaker 3: speed and who plays with an edge. I'm really intrigued

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Speaker 3: to see both those guys. They both have experience in

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Speaker 3: the college game, and you can't tell me there is

639
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Speaker 3: an opportunity to crack this wide receiver room as a fourth, fifth,

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Speaker 3: or sixth receiver.

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Speaker 1: Palmer six two two ten, not invited to the Combine,

642
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Speaker 1: did participate in the Hula Bowl and the East West

643
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Speaker 1: Shrine Bowl. By the way, he was on the East team.

644
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Speaker 1: The offensive coordinator for that side was Drew Terrell. So again,

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Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, his passing game and wide

646
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Speaker 1: receivers coach here with the Ozona Cardinals, that means something.

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Speaker 1: And we saw that a number of times. A number

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Speaker 1: of these players selected based off their postseason All Star Games,

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Speaker 1: in which Cardinals coaches were a part of not just

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Speaker 1: watching scouting, but literally on the field, hands on with

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Speaker 1: these athletes.

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Speaker 3: And Xavier Weaver out of Colorado, you look him up

653
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Speaker 3: and you take a look at his highlight reel, it's

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Speaker 3: very impressive. And once again, there were a lot of

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Speaker 3: teams who sought out Xavier Weaver and the Cardinals had

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Speaker 3: to negotiate heavily to get him signed. And so he

657
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Speaker 3: was the one guy, the undrafted rookie free agent that

658
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Speaker 3: I think, from all appearances, they coveted and there's a

659
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Speaker 3: reason why. And he's a guy who's a total unknown

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Speaker 3: who I'm I'm definitely watching during rookie mini camp.

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Speaker 1: Six feet tall, listed at one sixty nine, and you

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Speaker 1: just wonder, with a full offseason in the NFL and

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Speaker 1: the training staff get their hands on him, can you

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Speaker 1: can he does he have the body type to add

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Speaker 1: ten to fifteen twenty pounds because one sixty nine, that's

666
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Speaker 1: that's easily broken in the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: That's JJ Nelson esque. If you go back to you know,

668
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Speaker 3: the fifth round pick who ran the four to eight.

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Speaker 3: But yes, he had a hard time getting off the

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Speaker 3: line because most with guys got their hands on him.

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Speaker 4: He was done.

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Speaker 1: The thing that you brought up about Weaver as far

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Speaker 1: as what the Cardinals needed to do to get him

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Speaker 1: on this team. Quoting reports, two hundred and fifty five

675
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars guaranteed. That is more money than either Blake

676
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Speaker 1: Whiteheart or Jacob Slade received a year ago as high priority,

677
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Speaker 1: top priority undrafted free agents. It's also more guaranteed money

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Speaker 1: than Greg Dortsch received.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: So when you're talking about again, you're in that room

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Speaker 1: at the wide receiver position. How you got here means something,

682
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Speaker 1: But then you're here, and what does it take to

683
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Speaker 1: be a part of those final what six receivers? Seven receivers?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you carry eight wide receivers, but

685
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Speaker 1: that room right now is eleven and outside of maybe

686
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Speaker 1: Marvin Michael Wilson, maybe Greg dors but I don't know

687
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Speaker 1: if there's very many positions secured in that wide receiver room.

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Speaker 1: Depending on what happens with a Palmer or a Weaver,

689
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Speaker 1: or a Chris Moore or someone else that's in there

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Speaker 1: saying I just need an opportunity. I'll show you what

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Speaker 1: I can do.

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Speaker 3: And look, did Greg Dortch prove himself last year?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Did it take them almost the entirety of last year

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Speaker 3: to prove himself to new decision makers. Yes, but that's

696
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Speaker 3: what happens when you're five to seven one seventy five,

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Speaker 3: So okay, you do have to prove it over and

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Speaker 3: over again. But the fact he didn't get a ton

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Speaker 3: of guaranteed money, his football future is definitely in the air.

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Speaker 3: Here's the one thing you know about Greg Dortch every

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Speaker 3: single day of training camp, because we've seen it every

702
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Speaker 3: single training camp practice for three years now. Dude, we'll compete.

703
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Speaker 3: There will be nobody more fired up to compete than

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Speaker 3: Greg dorts So if you're one of these rookie receivers

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Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior included, and you want an example of

706
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Speaker 3: what it takes and how you compete at the NFL level,

707
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Speaker 3: just keep an eye on the smallest guy in the room,

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Speaker 3: Greg Dortch.

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Speaker 1: Outside of the money, though, I do think it says

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Speaker 1: something on what this front office, this coaching staff views Dorsch.

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Speaker 1: When you go out and connect the dots. DJ Dallas

712
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: gets signed better kick returner at least in Seattle than

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Speaker 1: Dorsch was. But was that because either one these new

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Speaker 1: kickoff rules and maybe you want a bigger return man sure,

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Speaker 1: or the thinking is, hey, we like Dorch what he

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Speaker 1: did in the slot. We let Rondell Moore go acquired

717
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Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter in a one for one deal with the Falcons.

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Speaker 1: All right, so we don't really have that slot guy.

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Speaker 1: We like what Dorch did late last season. Can he

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Speaker 1: do it again more offense? So we don't really want

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Speaker 1: him worrying about special teams.

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Speaker 3: And here's the thing. When you're five to seven one

723
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Speaker 3: seventy five and you're returning kicks and punts, man, you

724
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Speaker 3: take a beating. And when you're hard nosed and you're

725
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Speaker 3: not turning down tackles and trying to turn it upfield

726
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Speaker 3: and quote run into the darkness you. I mean there

727
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 3: were times Craig Field level as a sideline pencil neck

728
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 3: radio reporter, he would get launched off his feet and

729
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Speaker 3: I mean he would get up and I would we

730
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Speaker 3: would WinCE on the sideline. The team docs would be like, oh,

731
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Speaker 3: poised ready to run after him, he'd bounce right up.

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Speaker 3: But that takes a toll after a while. So to

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Speaker 3: your point, if they do value them as their starting

734
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Speaker 3: slot receiver, then yeah, taking them off kicking punt returns

735
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Speaker 3: not a bad idea.

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Speaker 1: Let's bring this full circle here. Rookie minniecamp on Friday

737
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Speaker 1: will get to be able to watch some most of

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Speaker 1: Friday's work outside of Marvin Paul, is there someone that

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Speaker 1: you're going to look at as a early projection for

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Speaker 1: your poly pigskin breakout player amongst this twelve person draft class,

741
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Speaker 1: and you can even throw in the three undrafted rookies

742
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Speaker 1: as well, but someone that again, I think all eyes

743
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Speaker 1: are going to go to Marvin, and that's deservedly so.

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Speaker 1: And again I realize it's without Holme, that's without pads,

745
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: T shirts, shorts, you're not really going full speed. But

746
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Speaker 1: you will see how big these guys are and how

747
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Speaker 1: they size jumps off the page, and like, okay, that's

748
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Speaker 1: someone I want to see against someone when the veterans

749
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Speaker 1: arrive with the rookies in two weeks.

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Speaker 3: Put it this way, if you're in a rookie mini

751
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 3: camp and you're not doing well, that's a bad sign it.

752
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Speaker 3: If you are doing well, does that mean you have

753
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Speaker 3: a future in the NFL. No, But if you're not

754
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 3: doing well in a rookie mini camp, you're probably done

755
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 3: because that's the easiest level and step in the process.

756
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Speaker 3: There have been rookie mini camps where draft picks have

757
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: come in at the receiver position and they fought the football.

758
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 3: They haven't caught it naturally or easily. And guess what,

759
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 3: they fought the football the rest of their careers, and

760
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 3: most of them are usually short. With the Arizona Cardinals,

761
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Speaker 3: so you can tell right away. For example, two years ago,

762
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 3: Trey McBride came in, Oh, Mike, just catching the ball effortlessly, naturally,

763
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Speaker 3: and what has happened. He's been right in traffic, he's

764
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Speaker 3: been more real in highlight catches. So you can tell

765
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Speaker 3: that sort of stuff right away. Now. As for some

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Speaker 3: of the big names, you know, Marvin Harrison junior now

767
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 3: the lineman you can't get a real sense of in

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Speaker 3: the rookie mini camp. Some other guys have gotten a

769
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Speaker 3: lot of press, like Xavier Thomas, former number three recruit. Overall,

770
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Speaker 3: you know some other and the two lower round receivers, well,

771
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Speaker 3: the one six round O Tejon Palmer and Xavier Weaver

772
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Speaker 3: were already talked about. They're definitely in the mix for

773
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Speaker 3: the POLYPIXI and breakout player at camp. But I might too.

774
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Speaker 3: I have two eyes on the two cornerbacks round two,

775
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Speaker 3: Max Melton, Round three, Elijah Jones, especially Elijah Jones, great size,

776
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Speaker 3: six one and a half, a lot of experience. I've

777
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Speaker 3: heard he is technician, so okay. He does have the

778
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Speaker 3: speed to compete. Curious what he's going to look like.

779
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Speaker 3: And then Max Melton. Everything that has come out about

780
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Speaker 3: Max Melton, even Dave Sears raved about him, Cardinal's assistant

781
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 3: jam on the Big Red Rage saying for him to

782
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Speaker 3: run sub four four, jump over forty and have a

783
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 3: broad jump of eleven plus was one of the best

784
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Speaker 3: overall all around athleticism scores you'll ever see. So he's

785
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Speaker 3: a freak in terms of the athleticism. Plus he has

786
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Speaker 3: over forty starts in the Big ten. Marvin Arison Junior

787
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Speaker 3: is given him props for his ability to compete and

788
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Speaker 3: his skill as a corner so okay, and the fact

789
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Speaker 3: that he has a nose for the football, including four

790
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 3: blocks on special teams. He's just one of those instinctive guys.

791
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Speaker 3: You take all that together and the Cardinals need at

792
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Speaker 3: cornerback alongside Sean Murphy Bunting. I don't know how you

793
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 3: cannot look at Max Melton from day one and wonder, okay,

794
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Speaker 3: could he be cornerback one?

795
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Speaker 1: For you might not know who's throwing the football this

796
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: weekend during rookie minicamp, but the wide receiver defensive back matchups.

797
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Speaker 1: How much we see of that those one on one battles,

798
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Speaker 1: whether that's Marvin against Max Melton or Palmer against Jaden

799
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Speaker 1: Davis the seventh round corner out of Miami. But those battles,

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Speaker 1: I think to your point, because you're not going to

801
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Speaker 1: know much as far as offensive or defensive lineman, but

802
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Speaker 1: how much one on one wide receiver defensive back do

803
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Speaker 1: we see this weekend?

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Speaker 3: And that's a great point. That's a great reminder. If

805
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 3: you see a corner getting schooled in these drills, then

806
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 3: it gives you a sense. Once again, you don't necessarily

807
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 3: know they're upside, but you know right away whether they're

808
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 3: going to be able to compete or not. So for example,

809
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 3: last year, Key Trell Clark, he was great in rookie minniicamp.

810
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Speaker 3: I mean he was competing, he was contesting balls, he

811
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Speaker 3: was keeping up with Michael Wilson and company. And so

812
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Speaker 3: you're right there, Okay, that guy at least has a

813
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Speaker 3: chance as opposed to someone who's getting torched in some

814
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 3: of these drills. As a corner, you realize he has

815
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Speaker 3: no chance because guess what, when the veterans come back,

816
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 3: he'll look even worse again.

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Speaker 1: Rookie Miniicamp on Friday goes through the weekend, but a

818
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Speaker 1: lot of eyes will be focused on Friday as far

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Speaker 1: as what we're able to see amongst these new faces

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Speaker 1: that the Cardinals have at it. And again, in case

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Speaker 1: you missed it, the Marvin Harrison junior interview that Paul

822
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Speaker 1: and I had a chance to speak with as far

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Speaker 1: as just getting to know the person and the player

824
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Speaker 1: who's a good conversation and very looking forward to what

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Speaker 1: he is able to do out on that foot ball field.

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Speaker 3: It's good, Creig, you were entertaining here. I didn't have

827
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Speaker 3: to go and break glass in case of emergency and

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Speaker 3: bust out the AP's NFL mock Draft for twenty twenty five. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they decided to put out last week. So I'm not

830
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Speaker 3: going to talk about how they have the Cardinals taking

831
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Speaker 3: Will Johnson the corner out of Michigan. Okay, we didn't

832
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Speaker 3: need to talk about that because you brought up good content.

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Speaker 3: I'm way too soon as far as the twenty twenty

834
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Speaker 3: five NFL Draft track, mock draft track, Just way too soon, Paul,

835
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Speaker 3: way too soon. I mean, that's that's candidacy for a

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Speaker 3: roast in and of itself. I mean, that's one thing

837
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Speaker 3: that should have made the Tom Brady roast that didn't.

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Speaker 3: I mean, come on now on that.

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Speaker 1: No, we'll put a lid on this edition of Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cover two presented by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: As always, special thanks to our executive producer Jim Mamre,

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Speaker 1: our associate producer Cody Fincher. For Paul Calvc, I'm Greig

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Speaker 1: real Lou. We'll talk to you next time here on

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