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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome in side our three, The Jason Smith Show

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Speaker 1: with my best friend Mike Harton.

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Speaker 3: Well Dressed Hobo live for the Fox.

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio studios, where you're seeing teams punch their tickets

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Speaker 1: or basically punch their tickets depending on losses tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: That can be a little more dramatic. All right, that's good.

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Speaker 5: You just wanted to say punching tickets.

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Speaker 1: But the team has done enough to punch its own ticket.

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Speaker 1: Now it just has to wait for another team to

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Speaker 1: punch another ticket to see if the punching of the

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Speaker 1: ticket actually happened.

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Speaker 5: Well, if they had lost that pesky game back in

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Speaker 5: week two, sure, yeah, all those and it doesn't matter,

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Speaker 5: right if you hadn't get a loss to the only

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Speaker 5: I don't want to say real team but for the

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Speaker 5: purposes of this conversation, Yeah, right, the way rankings and

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Speaker 5: the perception of it all works, some are created more

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Speaker 5: equal than others. Right, let's go to the old animal

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Speaker 5: farm shot. I think when you lose my two touchdowns

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Speaker 5: to Louisville in your one big game of that, you

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Speaker 5: know scope that's gonna stick out, that that that puts

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Speaker 5: you in the Hey, we only got a fifty five

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Speaker 5: percent chance. You gotta wait for a lot of other

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Speaker 5: things to happen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, James Madison winning tonight, winning the Sun Belt.

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Speaker 4: They're ranked twenty fifth.

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Speaker 1: If Duke somehow upsets Virginia to Mark and let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: it would be a I think the point spreads a

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Speaker 1: little bit closer than the outcome of this game is

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Speaker 1: going to be. Virginia is a pretty good team, and

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Speaker 1: I know that we fall in love with the romanticism

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Speaker 1: of Hey, if Duke pulls this big upset, we want chaos.

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Speaker 1: Virginia is gonna win this game tomorrow. Right, Virginia is

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Speaker 1: one of the best. They've been pretty solid all season long.

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Speaker 1: Duke has lost five games, right, yes, and and and

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Speaker 1: you know, look, you know what I think many d

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Speaker 1: has one of the best defensive coaches in in college

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Speaker 1: football and figuring out n I l wise the offensive

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Speaker 1: side of the ball. But you know what when when

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Speaker 1: I hear him say, hey, all the teams we lost

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Speaker 1: to were good teams. Okay, that doesn't that doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: you're good like that this team.

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Speaker 5: This is day three of the coaching coaching uh retreat

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Speaker 5: that we'll have with all the clock management whatever. The

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Speaker 5: other is how to sell your school. Yeah, we only

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Speaker 5: lost to the good teams by a little bit. No, no, no,

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Speaker 5: let's let's let's punch that up a little bit. Right.

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Speaker 5: It's like it's like all those games that Kansas City's lost,

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Speaker 5: they're still losses.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, look, I understand you're trying to put.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, we we we we We lost to Illinois,

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Speaker 1: and we lost to Georgia Tech, and we lost to Virginia. Already,

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Speaker 1: you know the teams we lost tore all top seventeen. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: but you didn't beat any teams that were Those are

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Speaker 1: the three best teams you played, and you.

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Speaker 4: And you're able to beat them.

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Speaker 1: All the teams you've beaten there, I mean, they're all

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Speaker 1: the rest of the teams are all just yeah, look

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Speaker 1: like wake Forest was eight and four, okay, but wake

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Speaker 1: Forest finishing in the bottom half of the ACC, right,

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Speaker 1: Virginia is a pretty good There's a reason why they're

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Speaker 1: at the top of the ACC where they were seven

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Speaker 1: and one in conference. This is you know, this four

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Speaker 1: point spread. I really I would be very surprised if

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Speaker 1: Duke wins tomorrow and suddenly causes chaos and we're deciding

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Speaker 1: Duke or or James Madison for the college football But we.

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Speaker 5: Got a guy named Mensa. It's getting after it.

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Speaker 4: Come on, well, that is true. That is true.

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Speaker 5: Very smart, very smart, very smart. Mensa and Shepherd your

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Speaker 5: leaders here, But you know the other.

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Speaker 4: Of course, Shepherd has to be a leader. If your

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Speaker 4: name is Shepherd, you're a leader.

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Speaker 2: That is right.

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Speaker 4: You have no choice.

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Speaker 5: That's kind of why I said it, mister Helper. But

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Speaker 5: I mean we can talk. I mean, James Madison, Hey,

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Speaker 5: I'm going to UCLA, but look I'm still here, no drama. Yeah, hey,

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Speaker 5: look at me. I can coach my guys. And meanwhile,

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Speaker 5: you're you know, flipping the bird. Billier is coming in

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Speaker 5: this door eventually, but not today, not today.

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Speaker 1: Who's there? It's billion Napier. Nope, who's there. It's Willie Bapier. Oh,

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Speaker 1: let me open the door for you.

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Speaker 5: He oh no, No, one was my favorite.

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Speaker 1: One was Avon. Oh Avon is here? So two big

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Speaker 1: stories in the NFL. Uh, two more games to break

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Speaker 1: down here we got we got more from Vegas coming

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Speaker 1: thinking about the games tomorrow and Sunday? But we got

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Speaker 1: word today, No Kyler Murray for the rest of the

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Speaker 1: year for the Cardinals. They play the Rams on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: And look, the.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals, despite despite Jacobe being at the top of like

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Speaker 1: the Rams get back on. I'll be the most un

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Speaker 1: guy in the world if that happens. But what we

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Speaker 1: said about a month and a half ago, when it

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Speaker 1: looked like Kyler Murray was getting shut down, what do

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Speaker 1: we say we talk about being.

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Speaker 4: Ahead of the curve.

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's played his last down for the For the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, they've seen the best of him. They know

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Speaker 1: they need to go forward in a different direction.

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Speaker 4: And you saw that.

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Speaker 1: When you're getting the same kind of production from Jacoby

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Speaker 1: paying Kyler Murray for? You got to get out from

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Speaker 1: under that money and start over again again. It's not

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Speaker 1: like all of a sudden, he's gonna be great, Like

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Speaker 1: gonna have a value elsewhere, because this is not an

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Speaker 1: exciting year for a crop of quarterbacks and teams that

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Speaker 1: not gonna move up to that, like we're not sold

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Speaker 1: on Fernando Mendoza, were not sold on whoever else you

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Speaker 1: You know, look, Ty Simpson's falling down after it looked

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Speaker 4: So it's it's a it's a.

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Speaker 1: Very difficult needle to thread. But if all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden you're Arizona and you're floating Kyler Murray out there,

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, guess what, man, Uh.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be able to get out from under his

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Speaker 1: We've seen him, actually, we've seen him play league average

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Speaker 1: but just I mean, really, you can only bring bring

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Speaker 1: itself going, we're gonna try to make it work again

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Speaker 1: But he has absolutely played his last game. We said

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Speaker 1: Like we talked about this week, Giannis may have played

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you look at a guy played his

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Speaker 5: five games, sixty eight percent completion rate, six yards per attempt,

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Speaker 5: watch this offense if it was fully together with the

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Speaker 5: missed enough time, James Connor to the ir early on.

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Speaker 5: it really becomes the question going forward if he's not

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Speaker 5: that superpower is diminished, right, someone's got some kryptonite in

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Speaker 5: your hair is on fire and making throws downfield. You're

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Speaker 5: just a guy, right, and when everybody else's special, no

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Speaker 5: one is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, syndrome, baby, let's go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you would, but you know, sometimes your hair looks

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Speaker 1: like syndrome. It does when you come when you take

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Speaker 1: your like if you've been wearing like a nights when

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Speaker 4: It's very syndrome mess.

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Speaker 5: Now, that's it.

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Speaker 4: Very central.

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Speaker 5: I may or may not have been compared to him

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Speaker 5: No, how about that at plus eight fifty as we

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Speaker 4: Get ready, I just made Bengals fans field. God, think

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Speaker 4: Big Football Friday.

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Speaker 1: The first Domino of Conference Championship weekend is fallen. James

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Speaker 1: Madison beats Troy, snowballs and all So now e's on

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Speaker 1: the ACC Championship tomorrow Virginia and Duke. Maybe James Madison

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Speaker 1: squeaks into the playoff again. They have a ninety nine

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Speaker 1: This according to the All State Playoff Briain.

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Speaker 5: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to a human playoff predictor right now. Joining

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Speaker 1: us on the hot line. Longtime friend of the show,

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Speaker 1: Vegas Insider. He's on Twitter at Todd Furman. That is

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Speaker 1: at Todd Furman. Check him out, CBS Sports Line, TSN.

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Speaker 1: He is everywhere he is with us now, Todd, what's

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Speaker 4: How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing them all to night, gentlemen, hopefully you boys

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Speaker 1: So did you have did you take Troy getting the

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Speaker 3: I did not get involved in that game. Was surprised

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Speaker 3: though to see that number get bet up though from

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Speaker 5: Do you think with the narrative, sorry Jason, with the

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Speaker 3: I think in that spot it really would have done

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Speaker 3: I think the dog is live in this game when

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Speaker 3: know it's narrative more than anything else, but this is

438
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Speaker 3: going to feel like an Indiana home game in my estimation,

439
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Speaker 3: especially when you look at the ticket prices and you

440
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Speaker 3: can make the case that this is the most important

441
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Speaker 3: football game that Indiana will play as a program, you know,

442
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 3: going forward with a chance to be Big ten champions

443
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 3: and cementa Heisman Trophy winner wearing Hoosier colors as well

444
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Speaker 3: in the process.

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Speaker 1: All right, Tod, Let's head to the NFL Big Week,

446
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Speaker 1: Big Showdown Week. Teams trying to stay in the playoff

447
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Speaker 1: lount at the top of their division, the Texans and

448
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. The Chiefs coming off another week where the

449
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 1: message was we're still great.

450
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 4: All we got to do is finish in one or two.

451
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Speaker 1: Plays here and there against the best defense in the AFC.

452
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Speaker 4: What do you think of this one?

453
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Speaker 3: In my opinion, Kansas City is like the villain in

454
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Speaker 3: a horror movie. Until they're dead, dead you can't write

455
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 3: them off as being irrelevant, and that's the lifeline the

456
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 3: Chiefs have given themselves even in this spot as they

457
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 3: come into the game at six and six, but an

458
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Speaker 3: opportunity to get a big win here and set up

459
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Speaker 3: a showdown with the Chargers next week. Look, I don't

460
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Speaker 3: have a strong conviction one way or another with the

461
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Speaker 3: Chiefs now being back from three out to three and

462
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Speaker 3: a half, but it does feel like it's a by

463
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Speaker 3: low opportunity, even for a team that's got a very

464
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Speaker 3: different looking offensive line that's going to be on full

465
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Speaker 3: display at Arrowhead on Sunday night. Meanwhile, the Texan stock

466
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Speaker 3: kind of at the top of the market. I won't

467
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Speaker 3: quite say it's apples to apples, but it reminds me

468
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Speaker 3: an awful lot of what we saw transpire last night,

469
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 3: where nobody wanted a part of the Lions. They were

470
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Speaker 3: backed into a corner. The Cowboys were a flavor of

471
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Speaker 3: the week, and Detroit reminded us why they're still very

472
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Speaker 3: relevant in the NFC playoff picture. I think we could

473
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Speaker 3: see a similar scenario unfold on Sunday night, but I

474
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Speaker 3: do think defense dominates today. Giving the offensive line concerns

475
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Speaker 3: for Kansas City and that being the strength of the

476
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Speaker 3: Texas team. So what we're scoring game. No real strong

477
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Speaker 3: opinion though on the side.

478
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Speaker 5: All right, let's keep rolling with some of our thirty

479
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Speaker 5: two flavors. To steal from Baskin Robbins. Why is Green

480
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Speaker 5: Bay a six and a half point favorite?

481
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Speaker 3: Because the Bears are a paper tiger And when you

482
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Speaker 3: look at the underlying metrics for the Bears this year,

483
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Speaker 3: nothing suggests that they're even a top ten team in

484
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Speaker 3: the NFL, despite what their win loss record says. But

485
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Speaker 3: at the same time, I'm not going to discount their

486
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Speaker 3: level of performance. Went on the road on Black Friday,

487
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Speaker 3: of course, and upset the Eagles as a touchdown underdog.

488
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 3: Ran the football right down their throats, and they are

489
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Speaker 3: getting a little bit healthier on the defensive side. We

490
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Speaker 3: saw that secondary getting some key coogs back, but still

491
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Speaker 3: depleted at linebacker. The receiving corp takes a big hit

492
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Speaker 3: with no room of dunesay, so you'd have to imagine

493
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Speaker 3: a bigger role for Luther Burden. And look, so much

494
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Speaker 3: of what the Bears have done this year has been

495
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Speaker 3: predicated on taking the football away. It's just something that's

496
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Speaker 3: not sustainable as your schedule gets to be more difficult.

497
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Speaker 3: I do love the war of words, though. That came

498
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Speaker 3: from Ben Johnson and his presser about how much Friday

499
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Speaker 3: he takes and beating Matt Lafour, and it wasn't lost

500
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Speaker 3: on the green Bay coaching staff. So when I look

501
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Speaker 3: at this game here, this is a big number for

502
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Speaker 3: a reason. It's a lay it or don't play a

503
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Speaker 3: type scenario. I think green Bay can win this game

504
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Speaker 3: by double digits.

505
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Speaker 4: All right, Todd, let's uh man, see my card.

506
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Speaker 5: He more eloquently said what I've been saying to you

507
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Speaker 5: for a long time.

508
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Speaker 4: Arma, do you have no confidence in your team? Come on, man,

509
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Speaker 4: you have not.

510
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Speaker 1: I believe you're going to talk to Todd Foreman after

511
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Speaker 1: he said that about your team.

512
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Speaker 3: I mean, think of all the nice things I said

513
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Speaker 3: about the Jets over the decade or yeah, yeah, but

514
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Speaker 3: I think I can count them on one hand.

515
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Speaker 4: Smith, I can count the number of Jets wins on

516
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Speaker 4: one hand.

517
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Speaker 3: That's why it's okay, that's fair, Just like just like

518
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Speaker 3: Justin Field's touchdown passes.

519
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Speaker 1: All right, So look at the top of the AFC

520
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Speaker 1: North right now, Pittsburgh and Baltimore again, not quite the

521
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Speaker 1: the hard hitting days of the past where you're going

522
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Speaker 1: to get some kind of bone jarring day. Instead, we

523
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Speaker 1: have a diminished Lamar Jackson, a diminished Aaron Rodgers.

524
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Speaker 4: What do you think in this one?

525
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Speaker 3: This one feels a little bit more like a pillow fight,

526
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Speaker 3: but someone is going to have to emerge and win

527
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 3: the division. A far cry from the defensive Juggernauts that

528
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Speaker 3: you alluded to in the past. But history has told

529
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Speaker 3: us that this is historically a very close series. And

530
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Speaker 3: if you have the opportunity to bet the Steelers as

531
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Speaker 3: an underdog, they've been very live. After the way Aaron

532
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Speaker 3: rodd kind of lashed out of his team's lack of

533
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Speaker 3: preparation and getting bullied by the Buffalo Bills last weekend,

534
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 3: you have to think that the Steelers We're going to

535
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Speaker 3: bring their lunch payal and have a much different mentality here.

536
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Speaker 3: But on the flip side of things, look, raven Stock

537
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 3: is at the bottom of the market. We saw them

538
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Speaker 3: close a seven and a half point favorite last week

539
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Speaker 3: on Thanksgiving and lose outright to the Bengals, but turn

540
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Speaker 3: the ball over five times and losing that football game.

541
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Speaker 3: You mentioned a compromise Lamar Jackson and his rushing total

542
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Speaker 3: in terms of player pops all the way down at

543
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Speaker 3: twenty five and a half. I just keep waiting for

544
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Speaker 3: the Ravens to invent yet another lower body injury that

545
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 3: would allow Lamar to miss practice like we've seen over

546
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Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks. I do think this game,

547
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Speaker 3: though comes in under the total. Didn't bet at myself

548
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Speaker 3: and think the number is really fair at six. Should

549
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 3: be a fun game, knowing what's at stake, But these

550
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Speaker 3: two teams, at least the way they're currently constructed, don't

551
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 3: really feel like legitimate contenders in the AFC right now.

552
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Speaker 5: Just keep running the ball with Mark Andrews off his

553
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Speaker 5: fresh contract. All right, You mentioned both the Bengals and

554
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Speaker 5: Bills in there. Eight Bill Bengals plus eight to fifty.

555
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 5: What do we say GAMC North and are they allowed

556
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Speaker 5: to win this game at Buffalo?

557
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Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure I'm going to back the Bengals

558
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 3: given what I've seen, or I guess should say haven't

559
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 3: seen from that team defensively for the better part of

560
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Speaker 3: the season, although they do come in birming with a

561
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 3: little bit of confidence off their best defensive performance of

562
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Speaker 3: the year. When you look at Joe Burrow. He's been

563
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Speaker 3: an underdog of more than a field goal twenty one

564
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 3: times in his NFL career, ten ten and one from

565
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 3: a straight up standpoint in those spots, but eighteen and

566
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Speaker 3: three against the number. He just seems to elevate his

567
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Speaker 3: level of play, and knowing that the offense is going

568
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Speaker 3: to be a little bit healthier. Have to believe that

569
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Speaker 3: t Higgins will clear protocol and be out there, that

570
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Speaker 3: the Bengals are going to hang around and turn this

571
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Speaker 3: into a four quarter fight. But where I'm probably the

572
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Speaker 3: most confident is that the Bengals offense will do their

573
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 3: fair share of damage against the Bills defense a little

574
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: bit banged up, like their team total over a little bit,

575
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 3: hovering right around twenty three.

576
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Speaker 1: He's on Twitter at Todd Furman. That is at Todd

577
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Speaker 1: Firman again. Check him out, CBS Sports Line, TSN as well,

578
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Speaker 1: Uh Todd as always, Buddy, Thanks a bunch, Happy Friday,

579
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Speaker 1: enjoy the weekend.

580
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Speaker 4: We'll talk to you next week.

581
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Speaker 3: You got out, gentlemen, you guys do the same.

582
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Speaker 5: Hit him hard, buddy, Thanks.

583
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Speaker 4: I mean, I can't believe he said that to you.

584
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Speaker 1: He basically walked up to you grabbed your drink, drank it,

585
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Speaker 1: spiked it in your face, ripped your shirt on the

586
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Speaker 1: way out of the bar, and said, I'm calling your

587
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: girlfriend and picking her up right now.

588
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 5: You add everything we need to happen to you that

589
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 5: same way. I saw it live, except for the girlfriend thing.

590
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 4: But I can't believe he did that. You're you're friends

591
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Speaker 4: with him, You've known him for.

592
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Speaker 5: A long which is why we can talk to each

593
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Speaker 5: other in such bold and definitive statements.

594
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Speaker 1: Yeah, see, I think you're I think you're just hiding

595
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Speaker 1: that you're hurt right now.

596
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Speaker 4: I think that's I mean, look, you hurt.

597
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Speaker 5: It really just underlined very eloquently a lot of the

598
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 5: things I've been saying about this squad, and I'm excited. Look,

599
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 5: I accept every one of those wins, and I celebrate

600
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Speaker 5: the hell out of him. Right However, you get a

601
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Speaker 5: w it's a it's a hard league, with all these

602
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Speaker 5: games decided by eight or fewer points. We watch it

603
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 5: each and every week you get one or two outlier games,

604
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Speaker 5: even in ones with huge spreads. Otherwise, most games are coming,

605
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Speaker 5: you know, close late, just like we like them. Smith,

606
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Speaker 5: And with the Bears, it's been heroics in the fourth

607
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 5: quarter quite frequently. Does it mean that it has to end? No,

608
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 5: but the the six and a half, as he explained it.

609
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Speaker 5: I still think it's too big because I don't think

610
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Speaker 5: the Packers are any great shakes. But that's my humble opinion.

611
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Speaker 5: He's a better mathematician than me.

612
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Speaker 1: Tom that to find out what's trending in the wide

613
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Speaker 1: world of sports is someone who's been called the Ben

614
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Speaker 1: Johnson of Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, he's not welcome back

615
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Speaker 1: in Detroit. I I thought you.

616
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Speaker 5: Were gonna say, ripped his shirt off and was song

617
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Speaker 5: and all starts to smack while eating hot dogs.

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Speaker 7: We just started December, Ben, But go ahead, have fun.

619
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Speaker 7: Bears wide receiver Roma Dunsa out this weekend by the

620
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Speaker 7: way foot injury and considered week to week. Falcons wide

621
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Speaker 7: receiver Drake London still out with a knee injury. Lion

622
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Speaker 7: safety Brian Branch out for the year apparently a torn

623
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Speaker 7: achilles last night. Bill's defensive end Joey Bosa out this

624
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Speaker 7: weekend with a bad hamstring. But Bengals wide receiver t

625
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 7: Higgins returns Sunday at Buffalo. He cleared concussion protocol. Raiders

626
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Speaker 7: defensive end Max Crosby is questionable against Denver. He's missed

627
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Speaker 7: the last two practices with the knee injury. Saints running

628
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Speaker 7: back Alvin Kamara is out at Tampa Bay with knee

629
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Speaker 7: and ankle injuries. Bucks wide receivers Mike Evans and Jalen

630
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Speaker 7: McMillan are each still out. Quarterback Lamar Jackson and the

631
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Speaker 7: Ravens will play Sunday against the Steelers. He returned to

632
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Speaker 7: full practice today after an ankle injury. Washington QB Jaden

633
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Speaker 7: Daniels will return to start Sunday at Minnesota after the

634
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Speaker 7: dislocated elbow. He missed three games. Washington's lost seven straight.

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Speaker 7: Vikings quarterback JJ McCarthy will start after clearing concussion protocol.

636
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Speaker 7: Minnesota running back Aaron Jones has no injury designation after

637
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Speaker 7: a shoulder injury. Cardinals quarterback Kyler Murray is out for

638
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 7: the year with his foot injury. He's been on injury

639
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 7: reserve for a month. Arizona is missing two running backs

640
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Speaker 7: and two wide receivers this weekend, including Marvin Harrison Junior

641
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Speaker 7: LA Charger quarterback Justin Herbert, with his broken left hand,

642
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 7: was able to practice on a limited basis again today.

643
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 7: The team is optimistic he can play Monday against Philadelphia.

644
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 7: Herbert has yet to take snaps from under center, something

645
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Speaker 7: he could not do last Sunday. Either Chargers first round

646
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Speaker 7: running back o Marion Hampton returned to full practice. He

647
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Speaker 7: broke an ankle in Week five. This Saturday night in

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Speaker 7: college football, it's the Big Ten Title game in Indianapolis,

649
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Speaker 7: Number two Indiana against number one ranked Ohio State on

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Speaker 7: Fox TV. Each team is twelve to zero. Number four

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Speaker 7: Texas Tech will be in the Big twelve title games

652
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Speaker 7: Saturday against BYU. Miami is still right number twelve, but

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Speaker 7: does not play this week. Instead, it's Duke in the

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Speaker 7: ACC Championship against number seventeen Virginia. If unranked Duke wins,

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Speaker 7: it's possible that two smaller conference teams make the playoff

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Speaker 7: and no ACC well. Number twenty five James Madison finished

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Speaker 7: twelve to one, taking the Sunbell Crown tonight thirty one

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Speaker 7: fourteen over Troy. It was seventeen fourteen with under five

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Speaker 7: minutes left in the American Conference. Number twenty two Lane

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Speaker 7: at home beat number twenty four North Texas thirty four

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Speaker 7: twenty one. It was a thirty one seven lead for Tulane.

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Speaker 7: In the third quarter. Boise State and Kennesaw State also

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Speaker 7: won conference title games. Penn State's new head coach is

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Speaker 7: the guy who was at Iowa State the last decade,

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Speaker 7: Matt Campbell. Already the Cyclones have replaced him. The new

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Speaker 7: coach at Iowa State is Jimmy Rodgers from Washington State.

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Speaker 7: In college basketball number eleven, Gonzaga rip Kentucky led nineteen

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Speaker 7: to two early ninety four to fifty nine the final

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Speaker 7: in Nashville, Kentucky's record five and four. The late game

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Speaker 7: in the NBA at Oklahoma City went to the thunder

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Speaker 7: ripping Dallas won thirty two, one eleven as Anthony Davis

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Speaker 7: of the MAVs was one of nine shooting. Oklahoma City

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Speaker 7: has won fourteen games in a row and is twenty

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Speaker 7: two to one this season. Detroit's record up to eighteen

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Speaker 7: and five after edging Portland won twenty two to one

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Speaker 7: sixteen New York. The Knicks led Utah twenty three nothing

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Speaker 7: in the first quarter final one forty six to one

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Speaker 7: twelve as Jalen Brunson scored thirty three points. Wins for

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Speaker 7: Cleveland and Charlotte. Victories for Orlando and Boston, which ripped

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Speaker 7: The Lakers won twenty six one oh five, despite thirty

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Speaker 7: six points from Austin Reeves. LA's Luka Donsich was out

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Speaker 7: again for family reasons, but could return on Sunday. Lebron

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Speaker 7: James of La was out Tonight. Denver got forty points

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Speaker 7: from Nikola Jokic and one by one at Atlanta one

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Speaker 7: thirty four to one thirty three. Memphis sent the Clippers

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Speaker 7: to another loss, one oh seven ninety eight. The Clippers

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Speaker 7: record six and seventeen victories for Houston and Philadelphia and

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Speaker 7: for Indiana, which was four and eighteen, but one at

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Speaker 7: Chicago one twenty to one oh five thirty six points

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Speaker 7: for Pascal Siakam. The Bulls have lost six straight NHL

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Speaker 7: wins for Vegas and Dallas. The late game is starting

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Speaker 7: overtime in Anaheim Ducks tied with Washington three to three,

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Speaker 7: and US men soccer will face Paraguay and Australia next

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Speaker 7: Summer's World Cup, and then it'll face a European playoff winner.

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Speaker 4: Back to you, thank you, Steve o Hey. For next

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Speaker 4: hour you'r update.

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Speaker 1: I want at least three facts about every one of

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Speaker 1: those European qualifying teams, All four that they could potentially, I.

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Speaker 5: Think we have the time. I thought he was gonna say,

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Speaker 5: I need three reasons why Mark Cooke gets to keep

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Speaker 5: his job.

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Speaker 7: I thought you were gonna say, like three different ways

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Speaker 7: to pronounce Turkey these days that would qualify.

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Speaker 4: Well, we're coming off Thanksgiving, okay. I thought you would

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Speaker 4: know that already. All right, thank you, Steve O.

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Speaker 1: Jason Smith, Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, we have two big NFL debuts coming

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Speaker 1: up this weekend. We have got to get into that's next,

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Speaker 1: right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 4: Just Jake, that puts me in the Christmas move more

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Speaker 4: than an anything else.

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Speaker 1: I think it's not if now it's officially Christmas the

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Speaker 1: Alex tyshirt.

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Speaker 4: It is officially Christmas season.

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Speaker 5: Now that you've played that, I'm happy to know that

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Speaker 5: on a Friday night into Saturday morning.

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Speaker 1: I meant that officially begins Christmas. And of course it's

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Speaker 1: cemented when we get Chewbacca silent night, like physically you're

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Speaker 1: in it when we get it. At this point, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there are so many mashups out there. I've learned him

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Speaker 1: to several this week, so there's a lot of new

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Speaker 1: content to be had. How about the new Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: Jameis Winston mash up? No, the Giants are on a

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Speaker 1: bye this week, but each of the Giants backup quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: getting tryouts on TV. Yesterday it was announced that Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson is gonna get to be on CBS now Giants

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Speaker 1: are away. It would be his next career going to

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Speaker 1: be on CBS. I will give him this advice, right

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Speaker 1: because this is something that, look, Russell Wilson is someone

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Speaker 1: who throughout his.

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Speaker 4: Career has never really.

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Speaker 1: Brought been comfortable in a controversial world, or at least

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Speaker 1: a public publicly controversial world. Uh, you gotta bring it.

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Speaker 1: You gotta absolutely bring it on Sunday. And I would

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Speaker 1: say this bring it so much like I would go

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Speaker 1: even completely opposite of Russell Wilson nano bubbles.

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Speaker 4: I would say this guy stinks.

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Speaker 1: This guy's because if he brings it on Sunday, this

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Speaker 1: is the only way he can really salvage the end

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Speaker 1: of his career because he doesn't want to be spending the

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Speaker 1: rest of December in a puffy coat on the sidelines

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Speaker 1: watching Jackson dart Right. It's so sad that that's how

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Speaker 1: it's gonna end for Russell Wilson. But be so good

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Speaker 1: that that CBS says, hey, wait a minute, Uh dude,

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Speaker 1: you're not really playing anymore. Jamis is the second string

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Speaker 1: quarterback in New York. You want to come and hang

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Speaker 1: with us, and uh, you know you can end on

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Speaker 1: an upswing. That's kind of how Boomerisiasin did it right.

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Speaker 1: He came back, he played for the Bengals, he had

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Speaker 1: a really great last like five weeks. It was all,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna bring you back in sign. He's like, Nope,

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Speaker 1: go on to CBS. I'm leaving on a high note.

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Speaker 1: And he went after he played a couple of great

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Speaker 1: games at the end with his last run in Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: and went. Now, he's been on TV for thirty years,

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Speaker 1: So I would say, Russell Wilson, bring it and hope.

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Speaker 1: CBS says, hey, do you want to come do it now?

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Speaker 1: You can retire from the NFL, be on TV on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Bring it, Russell Wilson and you can you can salvage

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Speaker 1: the end of this season.

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Speaker 5: And you bring up a boomer Us hyacon No. I

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Speaker 5: think we've seen enough little snippets of Russ through the years.

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Speaker 5: There's there's some quirkiness, there's some potential chaos here. I

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Speaker 5: like this, depending on what players they're asking him to analyze,

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Speaker 5: this could get get a little bit loose. I mean,

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Speaker 5: this's the guy that gave us video from his bed.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know what to expect.

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Speaker 4: You know, I agree, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: Like he had that office corner office for a reason.

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Speaker 5: He was cooking up some big acts. So I think

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Speaker 5: there there's an opportunity here for it to be quirky enough.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that you're gonna get hot take nonsense,

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Speaker 5: and certainly the critical approach to it. I don't think

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Speaker 5: I'll you know, we're getting to the standing there, like

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Speaker 5: he's Leo DiCaprio with the flamethrower kind of thing here.

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Speaker 5: But I think there's enough to his personality that people

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Speaker 5: are going to tune in and they're going to be engaged.

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Speaker 5: Now emann to being the subject of great ridicule as

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Speaker 5: he's been in the past. But you know what, notoriety publicity.

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Speaker 5: It's a win for a pregame show.

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Speaker 4: Hey can you plug my nano bubbles?

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Speaker 1: I'll bring samples, of course for all the guys on

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Speaker 1: the second Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, can you different?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 1: On fine knees, Fox says, I see your Giants backup

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Speaker 1: quarterback edition of Russell Wilson, and I raise you one

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Speaker 1: backup quarterback of the Giants and Jameis Winston. Now tell

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Speaker 1: me this doesn't have a typical move by both sides.

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Speaker 1: Here's CBS, more buttoned up, more straight lace, bringing on

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. Here's Fox full of personality and fire. Here

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Speaker 1: comes James Swinston saying, whatever the hell Jameis Winston is

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Speaker 1: gonna say on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Like this is?

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Speaker 1: This is so in line and on brand for CBS

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Speaker 1: and Fox, and look, I can't wait to see Jameis Winston.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna be amazing.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be odd, he's gonna be unpredictable, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be dangerous. He may sing a song, he may sing

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Speaker 1: two songs. He may have tap shoes on. He may

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Speaker 1: wind up reenacting a scene to a movie. He may

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Speaker 1: start eating W's like real W's made out of some

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Speaker 1: sort of football. Like he is gonna be amazing on

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Speaker 1: Sunday because you know he's gonna he doesn't care. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna go out there and say all kinds of crazy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. If he doesn't roll up with a bucket of

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Speaker 5: crab legs or something, then it's really an opportunity loss.

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Speaker 4: Like that g hands him out to everybody.

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Speaker 5: I gotta think that the sales team there at Fox

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Speaker 5: has something cooking that night.

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Speaker 1: He adds Terry Krabb, like Terry Branshaw, who were anybody

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Speaker 1: bring food on?

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Speaker 4: Said before you come back, jamis you come back?

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Speaker 5: You know what, we're gonna do an extra hour and

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Speaker 5: it's just gonna be him and Gronk like and our

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Speaker 5: guy Jay Glazer can referee and if we need him to.

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Speaker 5: Oh what we can't do? I mean because you got Fox,

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Speaker 5: so you got no place for Jackson Dart there so

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Speaker 5: he wouldn't have to go on the mini football field

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Speaker 5: and avoid Strahan or how he long. So that's good. Uh,

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Speaker 5: so you can send him to NFL Network or something

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Speaker 5: where he won't take a hit.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm telling you, man, there are no more on

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Speaker 1: brand moves and CPS doing that what they're doing.

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Speaker 4: And James Winston.

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Speaker 5: Here's our counter programing.

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Speaker 1: James Winston Mann exit albouta Fresca exit swallowed up. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean Jameis Winston's gonna be phenomenal because again he's

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Speaker 1: one of those guys no pressure, I'm gonna say whatever.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna be entertaining. He's really gonna be something.

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Speaker 5: What show tune does he bring out because he's already

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Speaker 5: done Hamilton.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's got to do another Hamilton song. I think yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't get yeah, yeah, I think.

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Speaker 5: Maybe he does a tribute to James Madison.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, we get back into the Biggest Bred's

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Speaker 1: story of the day.

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Speaker 4: Keep it right here, Jason to Mike Fox Sports Radio