1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: This is the almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio. Welcome back 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: to the almost Famous OG podcast. I am your host, 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Bob Geinny here and. 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 2: Tonight, I am so excited. We're doing a Bachelor in 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: Paradise recap. We have one of my favorite people on 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: the show with me who's gonna be talking through this. 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 2: And she lived at my friends a Golden in Paradise. 8 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: It's been amazing, our dear friend Kathy Sports. 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 3: Hi Kathy, Hey, Bob, how are you tonight? 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: I am so good man. 11 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I loved watching you in this episode, 12 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 2: you and my boy Gonzo, and I really enjoyed watching 13 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: you guys, and it was interesting to me. And I'm 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: so excited to get your take on this because I 15 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: was watching you guys as you know, I love you 16 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: because you're my friends, right, but also I'm watching you 17 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 2: guys as kind of like the voice of reason at times, 18 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: and then honestly sitting in silence, like almost in shock 19 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: and awe of what you were viewing going on. I mean, 20 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: this was kind of a major turning point for Paradise. 21 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: It went from all fun and games and kind of 22 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: happy go lucky puppy dogs and ice cream. And then 23 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: this episode we started seeing some strategicy. We started seeing 24 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 2: some people kind of burying themselves, which wasn't great. 25 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: For a few people would take a good old fashioned 26 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 3: politic and yeah, the. 27 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: Parliament, Paradise, Parliament, whatever it was. But how was it 28 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: for you? 29 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: I mean, you're living it obviously, so you to watch 30 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: it back. What was the difference between what you were 31 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: feeling in that moment and what you're feeling watching it 32 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 2: back today. 33 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 4: Well, honestly, it feels very much the same. I was 34 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 4: a deer in the headlight watching all this politicking going on, 35 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 4: and people would come in and say, who do you 36 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 4: want to go home? What do you think? And I 37 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 4: just kept thinking, We've got two strands here. We have 38 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 4: love and we have money, and we mixed the two, 39 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 4: it gets really interesting. So for me, I didn't really 40 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 4: want to be part of the politicking. I just some 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 4: of those young girls are really good friends. So Keith 42 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,919 Speaker 4: and I were really trying to stay out of the fray. 43 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 4: But it certainly did feel different because now people are 44 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 4: just fessing up, I'm no relationship, I'm here. 45 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: For the money. And I said I have to clear 46 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 3: my name here. 47 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 4: I had said in a previous episode that was televised 48 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 4: a couple of episodes ago, that I would never take 49 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 4: money from the kids, that I would self eliminate if. 50 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: It came to that. But I was having so much fun. 51 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 4: Doing the challenges and getting so for me, it was 52 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 4: just this is so fun and interesting to watch. 53 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: Sure, I can only imagine, and you know what, when 54 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: it's fifty thousand dollars, you know, maybe not. 55 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: But when it's five hundred thousand dollars, I'm sorry. 56 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: I'm taking money from everybody, right, I mean, at that 57 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: point it's interesting. If it came down to it me 58 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: or somebody else, I want the money too. 59 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 4: I have to be honest, you know, call me, call 60 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 4: me Teresa. I am I have. I have a lot 61 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,839 Speaker 4: of life left to live. But I'm not like these 62 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: young kids getting life started. And so I really honestly 63 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 4: say it tonight and said it during Paradise. I was 64 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 4: not taking money from kids just and Keith. Keith is 65 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 4: a great guy, and he and I both agreed on that. 66 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you could tell you guys, I think you know. 67 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: One of the things that I saw in tonight's episode, 68 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: again largely probably because it's you know, because I love 69 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: you guys, but watching the show and I was, I 70 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: felt like you were just sort of letting people air 71 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: their stuff out. You guys weren't even really commenting on everything. 72 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: I know some of that's probably editing as well, but 73 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: you guys were, you know, we're sort of listening and 74 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: kind of letting everybody say their pieces, and they're pulling 75 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: you aside. You're like, okay, and you'll take the walk 76 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: with them, and that had to be kind of interesting. 77 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: It was. 78 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 3: It was interesting. 79 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 4: And watching it back tonight, Oh really, Brian, let's and Parsa, 80 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 4: let's get rid of Kathy and Keith? 81 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: Really? 82 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so that those things are always interesting. But 83 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 4: I knew here's the thing. There's there were two brains 84 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 4: going on during that episode. One was who's in love 85 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 4: and who's a strong couple and who's good strong a 86 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 4: couple regardless, and then like Jonathan full of you know, 87 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 4: fest up, I'm here for the money and I don't 88 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 4: want to go home, and I were. 89 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: Just there having fun because we love the young ones. 90 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: So you know, yeah, no, I loved it. I loved 91 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 2: watching you guys kind of open the episode too. First 92 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: of all, I loved, you know, the one thing about Paradise. 93 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: With this many seasons under its belt, it definitely did 94 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: a revamp, but it went back to kind of the 95 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: old intros, which were kind of like the cheesy threes 96 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: company style thing, which I love, you know, I always 97 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: found that kind of kitchen and fun for the show. 98 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: But it opens, we see people eating breakfast, we see 99 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: people working out of course, which are two standards, and 100 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 2: then we see you guys, basically you and Keith going 101 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: through and you're kind of, you know, talking through everybody 102 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: and giving your feelings. 103 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: You know, Jonathan Lea not a couple just like Gus. 104 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: You know, what do we think of that? You know? 105 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: How is this thing going to be all about people 106 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: who are in love? It became interesting to hear Brian 107 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: basically kind of realizing that his head was on a 108 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: chopping block and he might well go home tonight. And 109 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 2: then Hannah comes out, she greets everybody, she's on the 110 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 2: walkie talkie and she's basically saying, Okay, this is it 111 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: the next relationship task. Treasure hunk, right, and basically one's 112 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: gonna hunt for the treasure, which is the partner in 113 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 2: a giant treasure chest. And then the other person has 114 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 2: to basically listen to the walkie talkie commands and find 115 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: specific things that will help unlock this chest. 116 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: Now, how is that for you? 117 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: Because you made a really funny comment, by the way, 118 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: You're like, next time I'm in a treasure chest, if 119 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 2: I got some cocktails, I'll do this, but I'm not 120 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 2: doing this otherwise. 121 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 3: It was really easy. 122 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 4: A lot of the couples were saying, you know, are 123 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 4: you better giving directions? Keith just looked at me and said, 124 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 4: there is no way. I'm claustrophobic. I said, not that 125 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 4: I loved it, but you know, going in the trunk. 126 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 4: But that literally is how we made the decision to go. 127 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would Canyon and I would have had an 128 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: easy choice. 129 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: She's super claustophobic, so it had been I'd been in 130 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:09,559 Speaker 1: the box. 131 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and remember I had a nice bottle of alcohol 132 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: thrown at me. 133 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: See there, there you go. 134 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: I was taken care of. 135 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: Amen. Nice work. That's what you can do when you're 136 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: a golden in Paradise. You can make some demands. 137 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 3: That's right. 138 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: But it seemed like the anti was really kind of 139 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: raised in a couple of ways. Obviously, one with this 140 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: more challenging task, right, and then two they basically say, like, listen, 141 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: two women are going home tonight, right, which means two 142 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 2: couples are going home. And it's almost like a line 143 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: is drawn in the sand, because if you heard it once, 144 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: you heard it one hundred times in the episode. You know, well, 145 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 2: do we let's keep the real couples here, right, Let's 146 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: send home the platonic couples now that we don't love them, 147 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 2: they're great, but you know, that's what this show is 148 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 2: all about. And it is interesting because you're right, it 149 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: kind of hearkens back to like for Love or Money 150 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 2: and some other reality shows like that, where it was 151 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: kind of like, you know, even Joe Millionaire right where 152 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: it was like, hey, you come down to the end, 153 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: you get a big chunk of dough, you know, and 154 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: if you also find love good onya right, So it 155 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: was interesting and you said it. You were like, you 156 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: know what, I get it. I want to see the 157 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: strong couples survive. And Keith was like, I think the 158 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: strong couples, but you. 159 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: Kind of called it. 160 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: You were like, well, however, what is the right way 161 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: to play this game at this point? You know, like 162 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: you were kind of seeing the forest of the trees, 163 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: which I love your insight. 164 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 3: Thanks. 165 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 4: I just felt like the honesty started to prevail, you know, 166 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 4: people saying what do we have to do to get 167 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 4: the money? And not everybody, by the way, was saying 168 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 4: let's keep the strong couples. Some people were saying let's 169 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 4: get rid of the strong couples because their competition and 170 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 4: what there was. I like their competition because they're in luck, 171 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 4: or the competition because they're going to win the challenges, 172 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 4: which is it? 173 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 3: You know? 174 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I thought that was interesting. 175 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: I mean Sean right away, you know, I think I 176 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: think he thought he was pretty savvy first, and then 177 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: when he kind of got the realization that he had 178 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: been outed, it was it was bad news for him, 179 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: but he was he was basically trying to play the 180 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 2: old Survivor game right with with some people who didn't 181 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: have any interest in playing it, and so when he 182 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: was talking to them, he thought he was kind of 183 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: talking to people that were agreeing with him. He just 184 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: was not reading the room at all, right, absolutely. 185 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 4: And I will tell you I truly Keith and I 186 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 4: thought we were going home. I had on my white 187 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 4: long satin dress and I was going to get engaged 188 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 4: in not and so well, I'm going home tonight. So 189 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 4: when they called my name, I was shocked. Yeah, I 190 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 4: really thought we were out. But I will say, someone's 191 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 4: like us, and they didn't see us as I say, 192 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 4: they knew Keith and I are good friends. We never put, 193 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 4: you know, pretended to be anything else, and we still don't. 194 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 4: We're still good friends. However, However, some people saw that 195 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 4: as a good thing, that we weren't a strong couple, 196 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 4: And in my head, I'm thinking, it doesn't matter if 197 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 4: you're a strong couple. 198 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 3: What matters is are you good at the games? 199 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? 200 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: And are you good at seeing through what's going on? 201 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, like like you guys obviously were 202 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: you know, you read right through the whole Sean thing. 203 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: I felt bad for Alicia, uh, you know, in that 204 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: moment when she was kind of like realizing that, you know. 205 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: But but she was kind of on board at first. 206 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 2: You know, and so she kind of took when we 207 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: followed out tonight watching the episode, right, but but it 208 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: was like she obviously wasn't on board for that much 209 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: of the hardcore politicking. 210 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: You could tell that, and. 211 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 4: That is exactly what she was on board with the 212 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 4: strategy to win, but Sean took it to a whole 213 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 4: another level. 214 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 2: Just yeah, and he kind of got he's the reason, right, 215 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: I mean, and then and then it's kind of interesting, 216 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 2: like we're going to go out with integrity, and it's like, 217 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: you know, I've I've often thought this when people do 218 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: this on The Bachelor and the Bachelrette, they know they're 219 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: not getting a rose, right, They'll be like, hold on, 220 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: you know, Chris, hold on, uh, you know, Jesse, I'm 221 00:09:59,160 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: out of here. 222 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's oh, okay, you already know you're going home. 223 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: Brow you know. So it's like, is it really that 224 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: much of a move of integrity? You know? I don't 225 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: think so. 226 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: Well, I think honestly, I don't know. 227 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 4: I was just there, I mean, if being funny, I mean, 228 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 4: I honestly think Alicia. I don't think Sean thought they 229 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 4: were going home. I think Alicia knew they were, and 230 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 4: I think she really wanted to go out with integrity. 231 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 4: Sean I think was surprised. 232 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he didn't seem like, he didn't seem like it, 233 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 2: you know, But let's go back with it. So Jessin 234 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: Spencer win the challenge, right, and They're a really cute couple, man. 235 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're really coming along. 236 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 4: They I'm telling you, from the minute I stepped onto Paradise, 237 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 4: those two what you're seeing as who they are. They 238 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 4: are just in love with each other. They're cute, They're 239 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 4: just adorable. I mean I would sit in her room 240 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 4: and she would just go on and on about, you know, 241 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 4: how adorable he is and how much she's grown to 242 00:10:58,760 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 4: like him. 243 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 3: It's just I love I love seeing young people fall 244 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 3: in love. 245 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is pretty sweet to watch at home too. 246 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 2: So during that game, while you guys are playing it, 247 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: obviously you've got the walkie talkie, you and Keith, who 248 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: our great friends, are clearly having some trouble communicating. Uh, 249 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 2: You're like, hold the button down longer. He's like, I 250 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 2: can't hold it any longer. It's I can't hold any harder. 251 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: For God's sake to be there. 252 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 4: There were some issues with the walkie talkies. So yeah, 253 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 4: it wasn't it Keith and Kathy issue. The other people 254 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 4: were having trouble. Some of them worked better than others. 255 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 4: But I had said to Keith, I'm going to speak 256 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 4: very slowly because I've had kids and walkie talkies on 257 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 4: a ski mountain and against garbled very quickly. So for me, 258 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 4: who taught, I'm from Boston, I speak really, I had 259 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 4: to think about annunciation and I did, and God loved Keith. 260 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 3: I knew we were screwed. 261 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 4: When if you if you saw the episode where I 262 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 4: like the numbers that he's supposed to get. 263 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like I. 264 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 4: Transposed him or something. I don't remember what he said, 265 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 4: and he was I made EHD. I was like, oh 266 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 4: my god, that's what I said. Don't send a man 267 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 4: to do a woman's job. 268 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: That was so good. 269 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 2: And I remember one of the like one of the 270 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 2: signs said one, the other one said one, So it's like, 271 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: how can you mix up those first two? Right? 272 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: It's one one? 273 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: But yeah, no, it was. It was funny to watch. 274 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: And you guys have such a great bantern. I love 275 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 2: your friendship. I always have. 276 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 4: And he is a very very very kind man. I 277 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,599 Speaker 4: you know, to say that he's a girl dad. He 278 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 4: is just a really kind man and very empathetic. 279 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: He really he is. 280 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: He is. 281 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: He's a he's a fun dude to party with, but 282 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 2: then he can also get really sensitive and yeah, he's 283 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: he's a sweetheart of a guy. 284 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: I really love him. 285 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: So then round four comes up, right, we get through 286 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 2: the first couple of rounds. We got Bailey and Jeremy 287 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: versus Spencer and Jess. Yeah, neck and neck between these 288 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: two teams. Spencer and Jess get done first, they complete 289 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: the challenge. Bailey and Jeremy finished the challenge as well. 290 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: There's behind them, so it's kind of like they both 291 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 2: actually finished a challenge, right, which is pretty good. Says 292 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 2: a lot about them and their relationships. 293 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 3: We got one key, Yeah, I'm going to go with 294 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 3: that's really good. 295 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then back of things at that night, 296 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: So Jesse points out that the challenge was all about communication, right, 297 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: and obviously that's an important part of relationships. And I 298 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: didn't let I didn't let Canyon watch that part because 299 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: I didn't want her to, you know, to. 300 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 1: Come at me for anything. I'm just kidding. But yeah, 301 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: the winners were Spencer and Jess. 302 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 2: They went a date and it's basically their first first date. 303 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: Yeah right, yes, And what I liked. 304 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: Was she makes the statement that I, I, you know, 305 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 2: at the end, and I'm spoiling everybody's, you know, opportunity 306 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: to watch the show. But at the end when she says, 307 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: you know, I hope this is both of our last 308 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: first dates we ever have. 309 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: That's pretty That was pretty strong man. That was nice. 310 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 3: You know. 311 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 4: I think when remember I've been around a few decades, 312 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 4: when you beat a couple that you just look at 313 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 4: them and you look at their eyes. And from the 314 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 4: get go, from the minute I got there, they didn't 315 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 4: have to say anything. They really just just. 316 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 3: Have this spark. 317 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 4: And when the girls, when we would be sitting in 318 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 4: the bedroom, Shoe was just so cute about talking about them. 319 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 4: And you know, I don't you heard it at the 320 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 4: end of the night, I don't know whether I can 321 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 4: move in with him yet. And in my head, I 322 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 4: didn't say it out loud. I'm thinking, yeah, money, you'll 323 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 4: be moving. 324 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: It's going to happen. 325 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well, you know it's funny. 326 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, we'll get to that because I want 327 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: to talk about a couple of things at the end 328 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: of the episode that I thought were interesting. But you 329 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: know Leah, and Leah thinks that she and Jonathan are 330 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: on the chopping block, which, to be honest, they kind 331 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: of were right. I mean, especially if you were listening 332 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: to what Sean was saying to everybody, you know, you 333 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: talk to jus and you were pretty upfront, you like, 334 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: I really want to stay. You know, I really am 335 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: having a great time. I want to stick around. 336 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people were being a little 337 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: more kind of hidden about their motivations, but you were 338 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: just you were just putting it out there and I 339 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: and I thought that was actually pretty great because you 340 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: were leading by example. Right in my opinion, knowing you 341 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: as I do, I felt like you were kind of 342 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: like saying, you know, hey, I want to stay, So 343 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: I'm just going to tell everyone I'd like to stay. 344 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: I mean, is that is that what you were thinking 345 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: going into that? 346 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 4: I you know, I don't know whether the world will 347 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 4: believe it or not, but honestly, I was having so 348 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 4: much fun. I did want to stay. But I wanted 349 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 4: to stay to see the love connections and the couples 350 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 4: growing in the relationship. And I mean, who wouldn't want 351 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 4: to stay at a beach in Costa Rica, right? I mean, 352 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 4: I just I loved watching love and everything else developed 353 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 4: on that show. I loved it. I loved I personally 354 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 4: loved the challenges. I want the next challenge was I 355 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 4: loved the Keith. I mean it was like and if 356 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 4: you're if you're if you're really being honest. The couples 357 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 4: wanted to stay, who were in love, The couples wanted 358 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 4: to stay who wanted money? And there was also an intersection. 359 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 4: Some who were in love wanted money, some just wanted love, 360 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 4: some just wanted money. 361 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and some were just having so much damn fun 362 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 2: they just didn't want to go home, and that would 363 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: be Yeah. 364 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, yeah, how is the. 365 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: Food, by the way, I mean you know, I was wondering, 366 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: like it was the food pretty goose. I've been to 367 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: Costa Rica now twice and both times I just loved 368 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: the food. 369 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 4: Well, so I've been three times different parts, and I 370 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 4: was really worried that I was going to be eating 371 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 4: plotinus beans and rites every night. Yeah, every nut. And 372 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 4: I have to say the food was great. The resort 373 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 4: was fabulous. 374 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 3: It was great. I mean I loved it. 375 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 4: I have nothing to compare it to, but thank you 376 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 4: for air conditioning and no bugs. 377 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: Yeah that was the new thing, right, I mean that 378 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: was the new thing. 379 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: Although it looks like and you know, coming episodes we 380 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: might be seeing some bugs. 381 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 4: Well there are some. I'm not going to spoke for anyone, 382 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 4: but I found out that you know, bugs, bats. You 383 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 4: saw the episode where I went nuts. 384 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 3: But I'm scared out the bats, but I hate him too. 385 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 3: I'm bigger than they are. Bats. 386 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, bats scared the hell out of me. And 387 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 2: you can't squish them like you try, and they have 388 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: like a vertebrae that doesn't break, so they just like 389 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 2: come bounce them back. 390 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: It's crazy. I tried using a tennis racket. 391 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 3: I never want to get one again. 392 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 2: We'll have to strike that because we don't want Peter 393 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 2: getting mad at us. But yeah, I've taken I've taken 394 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: a tennis racket to a bat more than once. So 395 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: and let's just say it didn't hurt him at all. 396 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 5: But that was fine. 397 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: So we got okay where we're at the show. 398 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: Now we've got Alicia and Sean, you know, unallownge share 399 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 2: talk about the upcoming vote. Shawn's thinking that Shawn saying 400 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: the might have a target on his back. His dad's 401 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: in politics, which he thinks gives him a leg up, 402 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 2: and he wants to form an alliance. The chatter amongst 403 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: the group is that Parisa is now saying Brian's her boyfriend. 404 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Bailey wants to keep other people. 405 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 2: Around that are actual in love, like her and Jeremy 406 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:06,479 Speaker 2: and you know whatever. And then Sean basically goes around 407 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 2: to talk to anyone who I think will talk to 408 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 2: him about aligning with him, right, and Brian starts hearing 409 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 2: the chatter, which he seemed remarkably close to your guy's table. 410 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: Like did you got did no one just see him there? 411 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 3: Liked it? 412 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: Was it just that we didn't see him because he's 413 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 2: it looked like he was like two feet away. 414 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 3: I don't think there was anyone really too worried about 415 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 3: who was listening to whom about because. 416 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 2: It was like yeah, yeah, you know, and he's like, 417 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 2: hey man, but I will say And one thing I 418 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,959 Speaker 2: thought was actually kind of cool was as much as 419 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 2: Sean kind of was coming off poorly in this episode, 420 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 2: when Brian confronted him, he owned it. He's like, yeah, 421 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 2: I think you guys are one of the stronger couples 422 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 2: and you're a threat to me and I. 423 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: Need you to go home. You know. I was like, wow, Okay, 424 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting that. 425 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 4: And I would say Sean and Alicia are one of 426 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 4: the couples that at this point in the in the 427 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 4: show are definitely forming a a love connection and by god, 428 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 4: give me some cash. 429 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they wanted both things right. 430 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 2: One of the things which I loved and I'm sure 431 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: you probably enjoyed this too, was as Brian's kind of 432 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 2: confronting him. Yeah, he's owned in some of it, I guess, 433 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: not all of it. But then then he says, no, man, 434 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: I was even talking about you, and it says three 435 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 2: minutes earlier, and he's like, yeah, we got to get 436 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: Brian and priests the hell out of here. 437 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 3: And then they go back and say four minutes earlier. 438 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 3: Not a good look. 439 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: No, I did not reflect well, Bob. 440 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 3: There are some people that handled the truth carelessly in this. 441 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: Yes, there are. That's a really nice way to put it. So, 442 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it was crazy you even say in. 443 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: There more than once you're like, I can't figure out 444 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 2: what the hell Sean's doing at this point. The game 445 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: has changed, you did say, And this is where I was. 446 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 2: I was saying what I liked. Keith was saying he 447 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: thinks the couple in love should stay. You're saying, you 448 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: know what, I disagree with you. I think the couple 449 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: that plays the game the best should stay. And you 450 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 2: know that is if you really think about it. Yes, 451 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 2: Bachelor in Paradise in the past has always been a 452 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: show where you're hopeful for a love connection, right, but 453 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: there's still there's still some stuff going on that isn't 454 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 2: so above ward. But in this one, by introducing the money, 455 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 2: they definitely have taken this show to a new place. 456 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 2: And I got to be honest, I think I agree 457 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 2: with you. I think once once you put the money 458 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: out there, it's a different game. Yes, love, you're hoping 459 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 2: love wins, right, But I remember, and Heather, you might 460 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 2: need to help me on this one. But I remember 461 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 2: back in the day when they first did they did 462 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: the Bachelor Pad and they introduced money on that show, right, 463 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 2: And so this was prior to Bachelor in Paradise. Bachelor 464 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 2: Pad went away, I think after two or three seasons, 465 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 2: but there was a season where the couple gets to 466 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: the end, and I don't know this. 467 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: Might happen in Bachelor in Paradise. I'm not sure. 468 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 2: The couple gets to the end and they have to 469 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 2: choose the love or the money, and the way that 470 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: it went was if you both choose love, you get love. Right, 471 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 2: if you both choose money, you get money. And if 472 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 2: one chooses love and one chooses money, the one who 473 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,719 Speaker 2: wins the money wins it. And some guy and that's 474 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: why I can't remember who this was, but this guy 475 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 2: basically flips his sign over and it's money. The girl 476 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: flips over and it's love, and he takes the money. 477 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 2: And it wasn't this much. It wasn't five hundred thousand, 478 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 2: it wasn't that much. But whatever it was, it was. 479 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: I remember it being scandalous, like crazy scandalous. And I 480 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 2: can start seeing, you know, you start seeing cracks in 481 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: the armor right when you're getting to this stage in 482 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: the game and people are starting to get there if 483 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: they are in love and they both choose love, and 484 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: they think, man, we're gonna both be in love and 485 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 2: come off the show and maybe not have any money 486 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: because I don't know what the plot twist is yet. 487 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 2: Then it's like interesting, how much do we love each 488 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 2: other or do we you know, or she in love 489 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 2: with me, I'm not with her, or vice versa exactly. 490 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 3: And I agree with you, Bob. 491 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 4: Once you introduce money into the to the mix, you're 492 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 4: going to have you're going to have that that discourse. 493 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 4: It becomes a strategy of figuring out what's the best strategy, 494 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 4: right the love do we say screw the money? And 495 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 4: that's what I was trying to say to Keith that 496 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 4: I feel like people who are in love are going 497 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 4: to be whether they go off that night or at 498 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 4: the end of the show, if they're in love, they're 499 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 4: walking away in love. And to me, that's a gift. 500 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: It is. 501 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you can walk away not in love 502 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 4: with five hundred K, that's also a gift of a day. 503 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a gift for shore. 504 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 5: Well. 505 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 3: I think Keith and I were just we weren't arguing 506 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 3: with each other. We were just sort of showing the 507 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 3: two sides right to the decision. 508 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 4: And I think the show is that's what we're seeing, 509 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 4: where you know, Jonathan is saying I want to stay. 510 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 4: He is no interest romantic interest in Leah, but give 511 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 4: me some cash, right Yeah? 512 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: Okay, So it was Nick Peterson and Ree and the 513 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 2: difference was you either said keep the money or share 514 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 2: the money. She said share, he said keep. 515 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: Wow. I thought it was Lover Money. 516 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 2: That was a different show obviously, So this one was 517 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: you know, keep your share. So yeah, So I mean, 518 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: I'm wondering given the fact that you know, Bachelor in 519 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 2: Paradise replaced Bachelor Pad, right, and for the longest time 520 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 2: it didn't have that twist. Now they're bringing that twist back. 521 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 2: I wonder if that if that comes with it, I wonder, 522 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 2: I mean, who knows. 523 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: It might be you and Keith standing up there and 524 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: you could tell me but don't do it. Yet, don't 525 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: do it. 526 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 3: I could not tell a lie. So I'm just gonna 527 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 3: zip it. 528 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: There you go. So let me ask you this. 529 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 2: You and Keith are sitting there having this debate, which 530 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 2: I know wasn't an argument, But what were you thinking 531 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 2: in that moment? Oh, we're we're not as aligned on 532 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 2: this topic as I thought we would be. 533 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: And did that matter to you? 534 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 4: It didn't matter to me because one of the things 535 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 4: I love about Keith he's very insightful, and he's very respectful, 536 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 4: and he has a great sense of humor. So there 537 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 4: was no argument, and it was sort of like, oh, really, 538 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 4: because here's what I think, and it was just a discourse. 539 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 3: It was not an argument. 540 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 4: So I think he appreciated my point of view, and 541 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 4: I appreciated his but I think we both thought that 542 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 4: we were going home that night, and I remember Keith 543 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 4: saying to me at some point, you know, there's a 544 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 4: chance we might stay here tonight because Keith were chatting 545 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 4: with the guys, the young guys, and on Rose night, 546 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 4: I mean, and so, I mean, I loved them all. 547 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 4: I cannot tell you how much I love these people 548 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 4: there there. Did you see my Dale with his arm 549 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 4: around me? I was like, yes, how do I get 550 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 4: rid of Cap? That's what I'm thinking. 551 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was interesting, you know, it's it's 552 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: so fun. 553 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 2: It's so fun that it's you two left too, Like 554 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 2: of all the Goldens, I feel like I was I'm 555 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 2: closest with the two of you. 556 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: So it was fun to see you. 557 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 2: Guys still there, still, you know, still mixing it up 558 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 2: and being I think in a lot of ways, you know, 559 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 2: obviously being peers with these with these with these younger people, 560 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: but also I feel like they kind of you could 561 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 2: tell they really look up to you guys, they respect 562 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 2: you guys, and so I think there there's that kind 563 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: of kindness as well, like it's not such a dog 564 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 2: eat dog world. And you know, you said something at 565 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 2: the tail end of the episode, which I thought was 566 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 2: great because you said, you said, hey, now we just 567 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: need to win a challenge next week, which I. 568 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: Think could be foreshadowing. I'm just saying so. 569 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, so we got a couple of things going 570 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: on there on a tantric date, right, Spencer and Jess 571 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 2: looking very connected. 572 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: That almost went rated r we were we were at 573 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: PG thirteen at that moment. It kind of took a turn. 574 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 2: But they are start they are start talking about they 575 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: start talking about a little strategy as well. You know, 576 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 2: like Spencer says, I think we're the strongest couple. Jess says, 577 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 2: the money could kickstart our future together. 578 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 3: You know, way did you hear Jess? 579 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 4: So then you know, put the last two and pull 580 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 4: them back in and say whoa, whoa, whoa, we're. 581 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 3: Here for love. 582 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: Yes, she's like that, we've are aready found what we 583 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 2: came here for, right, which I thought was a really 584 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: sweet thing to say. 585 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 3: I love that. 586 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: And Spencer said, I'm falling in love with you, and 587 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 2: I've fallen in love with you, and Jess says the 588 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 2: same back that she wanted to say at first. So 589 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 2: it is very sweet to see that you know, Jade 590 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 2: and Tanner had become friends of mine over the years, 591 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 2: and they fell in love on Bachelor in Paradise, and 592 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 2: it was always so sweet for me to know, Like 593 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: I didn't know them before I went to the wedding. 594 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 2: They kind of had to invite me, which I felt 595 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 2: bad for them, But I had so much fun once 596 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 2: I was there, and now I consider that my friends. 597 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: But it's nice to watch people have a love story 598 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: that you can really get behind. 599 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that, Bob, is why I wanted to stay. I'm 600 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 3: not kidding. 601 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 4: I love Remember I have kids that are just slightly 602 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 4: older than these than these, and so it was just, Yes, 603 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 4: it felt great. Keith and I talked about that, how 604 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 4: it felt great that they came to us for advice 605 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 4: and asked us. That really felt great. But just to 606 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 4: watch love growing, it was just I loved it. It 607 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 4: was so so warm. It warmed my heart. 608 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: It was sweet and you could tell you could tell 609 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: that the producers liked them too, right, because the producers 610 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: were showing all of that for us. 611 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say. The other thing that would 612 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 3: have warmed my heart more. 613 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 4: Is if you know mister mister Wright sauntered in rode 614 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 4: in on a horse, swam up from the ocean. 615 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 3: Any of those great. 616 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: Any one of these, I guess right, we still could 617 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: have a James Bond moment where he's coming through the 618 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 2: through the ocean, the rolling waves. 619 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: So we get back to the show. 620 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 2: Cast members are now talking strategy, and I think Sean 621 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 2: kind of almost forced everyone's hand on this because he 622 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 2: was being so open about it that I feel like 623 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: people were almost like, are we supposed to be doing this? Like? 624 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 2: Because and I think I would feel that way too, 625 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: Like if I wasn't thinking that way and all of 626 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 2: a sudden, this one dude is and I'm hearing my 627 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: name in the mix, I'd probably be like, hey, So 628 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,719 Speaker 2: we see a montage of the girls talking strategy and 629 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 2: then uh, you know, of course. 630 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: Which we knew. I knew was going to come. 631 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 2: At least I thought that Andrew would tip off Spencer 632 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 2: that Sean's wants to wants him and us out and 633 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: because their strongest couple, right, And then Alicia walks in 634 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 2: on Alex and Bailey whispering about her and Sean, and 635 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: this really upsets her, right, And so that that kind 636 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 2: of is the kickstart of that evening. Part of the 637 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 2: show where the cocktail party starts, Wells kind of recaps, 638 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 2: you know, what's going on. Obviously, he's very happy to 639 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 2: get rid of four people because he's just sick of 640 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 2: sling in so many cottails. 641 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 3: And I loved it what he said about Keith's. 642 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: Let's get Gonzo lot of here, man, this dude's breaking 643 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: my bar tab. 644 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 4: Keith aka Gonzo may have been the guy to close 645 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 4: the barsing. 646 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 2: I just say, that's not a surprise to me. I've 647 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: hung out with that guy. I get it sewn and Spencer. 648 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 2: So Sean tools Spencer for a chat. He basically realizes 649 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 2: that he is he is made a miscalculation right, So 650 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: he tells him about his Parliament of Paradise and how 651 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: he thinks Spencer and Jess are his main competition. 652 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: Wanted to be honest. 653 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 2: Spencer says he's gonna make Sean feel comfortable and then 654 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 2: he's gonna slit his throat in this game, which I 655 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: thought was pretty good, uh, parsaid Hannah. Priesa tells Hannah 656 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: that if her and Brian are pinned against each other, 657 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 2: they'll just leave Paradise together, which you know I would 658 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 2: hope that would be the case, because even though you know, 659 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: I get it, like Brian isn't everybody's favorite at this moment, 660 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 2: but I still feel like they kind of have something there, 661 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 2: you know, they seem to have something kind of special. 662 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: And you would know better. 663 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 2: Than me, obviously, But you know, the Jeremy and Brian 664 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 2: chat with some Matthia music going that was great, editing 665 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: the Godfather, the Godfather, He's like afraid, Oh yeah, he's definitely. 666 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 3: I'm waiting for the dead horse to show up at 667 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 3: the PLoP in the bed. 668 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So he swims with the he swims with 669 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,479 Speaker 1: the fishes or whatever. Jeremy says, He'll forgive but not forget. 670 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: He recognizes. 671 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 2: It's good that Brian apologized, and I think that's cool too. 672 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 2: I mean, Brian was probably doing a little strategy as 673 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: well in that moment, but he did own it. But 674 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 2: you know, it's also kind of one of those things 675 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 2: too where you gotta wonder, like I get, you know, 676 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 2: I get that that Brian, you know, maybe should have 677 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: been a little more tac full about how yet process situation. 678 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: But if the dude really said. 679 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 2: That, and and and you know, wouldn't you want to 680 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 2: know that if you were the woman dating him. 681 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 4: Are we talking about what Brian told Bailey. Yeah, oh, 682 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 4: I'm with Wells on this one hundred percent. And yeah 683 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 4: it caused me some you know, some hate mail. But 684 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 4: I just I'm with I'm with Wells, I'm with the team. 685 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,239 Speaker 4: I'm with team Brian. I think he was trying to 686 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 4: do a favor for Bailey, but I also think Bailey, 687 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 4: as I said earlier, I don't think Bailey was really 688 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 4: interested in receiving for me. 689 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, she didn't seem to. I mean, we saw 690 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: that he said it in last week's episode. You know, 691 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: I actually thought Brian kind of redeemed himself a little 692 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: bit by doing what I thought was the right thing, 693 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 2: especially given how you know it played out for him 694 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: earlier in the season when when Prisa showed up and 695 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: he was all of a sudden kind of like. 696 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: The bad guy. But but yeah, I. 697 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 2: Mean it's kind of interesting. You know, he told the 698 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 2: truth and now he's apologizing for telling the truth. 699 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: So, you know, I don't know. I mean, at the 700 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: end of the day, I'm going to chalk. 701 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 3: It up to being young and dumb. 702 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, exactly, exactly. 703 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, So Alicia is upset the conversations are happening behind 704 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 2: her back. She's really emotional about it, questioning her friendships, 705 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 2: upset with Sean about not just relaxing on this whole thing, 706 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 2: and he didn't listen to her, tells him that people 707 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 2: are questioning if Sean even cares about her, and she 708 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,719 Speaker 2: informs Sean that Kat is not his friend. So this 709 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 2: becomes a thing now where Kat, you know, basically Cat 710 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 2: and Dale chat. They seem to be in a really 711 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 2: good spot. We'd be my boyfriend. He's saying, you know, yes, 712 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 2: I love me some cat, which. 713 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: I guess is a yes. 714 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: But he does say we are now I'm officially her boyfriend. 715 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: So he does say that up to the camera. 716 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 3: Bob, I thought exactly this same thing. 717 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,239 Speaker 4: I thought, well, you know, as an English major, he 718 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 4: did not you say the word yes, And then afterwards 719 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 4: he said, but we're boyfriend and girlfriend. 720 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 3: I thought it was a very sweet moment. 721 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I love me some pancakes, but it doesn't 722 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 2: mean I love you know you know what I'm saying, So. 723 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. So then so Alicia finally 724 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: pools the women. 725 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, they sit down her friend the close friend group 726 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 2: of hers, I should say, and she basically confronts them 727 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 2: about talking behind their back. They say they weren't plotting, 728 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 2: they're worried about how Sean is acting. I thought it 729 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 2: was actually a pretty above board conversation from what I 730 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 2: could tell. Right, Alex wants the plutonic couples to go 731 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 2: priests says they're all on the same page. Clearly that's 732 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 2: not how the vote went down, but I think it 733 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 2: was because Sean again still grinding, you know, just grinding 734 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: the room. 735 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 4: I'm sitting here, you know, you know when you go 736 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 4: to the amusement park and you're hitting the ball to 737 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 4: make the horse go up the thing, I'm in my head, 738 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 4: I'm going keep going strawn because my horse is just 739 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 4: going right exactly. 740 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 2: You're like, dude, keep burying yourself. I mean, I think 741 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 2: if he would have stopped when Alicia told him to stop, 742 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,719 Speaker 2: there may have been a chance for redemption, right, But 743 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 2: then his ego gets in the way, and he's like 744 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 2: cat cat indicated that we're not like, if anything, he 745 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 2: should have kept his mouth shut till the end of 746 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 2: the vote, you know, if nothing else. But he goes 747 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 2: confronts her. She, you know, basically is like, that's it. 748 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be disrespected anymore. She gets up and 749 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 2: goes to tell Dale, Dale, I don't think most of 750 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: the dudes there should be messing with Dale. 751 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:36,959 Speaker 1: Right, Dale's not happy you do with Dale. Yeah, he's 752 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of a beast. 753 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: And he gets up, he walks over, He's like, you're done, stop, 754 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,239 Speaker 2: you know, and and basically, you know, I think that 755 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 2: was pretty uh noble of him to do that, and 756 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 2: to go over there and say that, you know, and 757 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 2: and basically just tell him, like, hey, dude, quit picking 758 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 2: on my girlfriend. 759 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 760 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 4: Let me let me just say one thing about Dale. 761 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 4: He was and I had he was the oldest of 762 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 4: the young crowd. Yes, and he was the oldest of 763 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 4: the old crowd. And he and I just forged a 764 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 4: great friendship. And I will say my feelings on Dale. 765 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 4: I'm not only is the easy on the eyes, but 766 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,720 Speaker 4: that guy has real leadership. He gives you that aura 767 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 4: of I'm a leader, I'm thinking things through. And I 768 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 4: really think the other young people really listen to him. 769 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 2: I really do think yeah, yeah, I mean, and it 770 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 2: could be a nice redemption arc for him, right, because 771 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 2: I mean, when he was you know, Claire's choice on 772 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 2: the Bachelorette. He didn't look so great after when they 773 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,959 Speaker 2: were breaking up, right, that was kind of a rough 774 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 2: time for him publicly, And so you know, this. 775 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: Could be this could be a different view of Dale, 776 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, he might have just not handled 777 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: that situation so well. I don't know, but you know, 778 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: so anyway, Jesse commes and says, Okay, guys, cocktail party's over. 779 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: It's time to cast the votes. 780 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 2: And I thought it was a weird vote voting thing 781 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 2: at first, that you guys are passing around the iPad 782 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 2: and then and I was like, man, that's gonna be 783 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 2: strange because I wonder if people can like see who 784 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 2: the person voted for previously. 785 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 4: But no, huh, you couldn't say we were sitting strategically 786 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 4: so that you voted and then you went up and 787 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 4: handed just as the show showed, you got up and 788 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 4: handed the iPad to. 789 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: The next the next perton. 790 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you were told who to hand it to you, Like, okay, Kathy, 791 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 2: you vote, you handed to Keith or whatever. 792 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 3: Yes, I knew I was handing it too, and but 793 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 3: we didn't. To be clear, no one knew. 794 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 4: So let me just say my feelings were tonight when 795 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 4: I saw a couple of those girls voting against me. 796 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, well clearly, you know you know what though, and 797 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,439 Speaker 2: we all know how editing works. You know, that could 798 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 2: have been that. It couldn't even been next week. I mean, 799 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if that you're right, I feel better. Yeah, hey, 800 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 2: believe me. When I was a bachelor and like he 801 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 2: made out with thirty six women, I'm like, there's not 802 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,479 Speaker 2: even thirty six women on the show. 803 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: And I was wearing different ties and everything that was 804 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't the same roaskit ceremony night. 805 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 2: But you don't think about that stuff, right, So, so 806 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 2: Jess is the first name it's called. She of course 807 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 2: gives her rose to Spencer, and as we mentioned, says, 808 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 2: I hope this is the last first date that either 809 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 2: of us ever have. 810 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 1: Then Alex of course gives her rose to Andrew. Then 811 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: Bailey gives her rose to Jeremy. No surprises so far, right, 812 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: Kat gives her rose to Dale. There still no surprises. 813 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 2: Then Kathy gets the call and you come up and 814 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 2: you give her rose to Keith. And this is when 815 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 2: people start unraveling, right, because in their minds it was 816 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 2: Kathy and Leah are going home tonight because they're the 817 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 2: blatonic couples. And and in fact, you know, Brian and 818 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 2: Parisa clearly hadn't won over everyone the way that they 819 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 2: thought they had, right, But she's kind of all upset. 820 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, here comes the announcement 821 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 2: of Alicia basically saying that she and Sean came to 822 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 2: find love, they found it. They're out of here. But 823 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 2: Sean just still can't get out of his own way, 824 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 2: can't keep his pie hole shut. And he basically said, 825 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 2: you just voted off the strongest couple, and Dale, I 826 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 2: love you, but Kat, don't call me crying after this 827 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 2: one ends, which I thought, you know, I get it. 828 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 2: In his mind, he thought it was this great, you know, 829 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 2: walk off thing. But when you're saying that you're you're 830 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 2: you're gonna play this game with integrity and dada, you 831 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 2: can't take pot shots on the way out the door. 832 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 3: Hold on, I think Alicia is the one that said 833 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 3: we're leaving with integrity. 834 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: Yes she did, that's true. 835 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 3: The royal we. I didn't hear it out of Sean. 836 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: The purjoritatively, Yes, of course, the royal wi. 837 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 2: She was speaking for both of them, and couldn't you know, 838 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 2: once again, couldn't get him to. 839 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: Listen uh to her wisdom because she you know, I 840 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: just have to. 841 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 4: Say one thing that when we were talking about who 842 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 4: to vote off, because you know, the control party, it's 843 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 4: it's really like you know, uh, speed dating, except you're voting. 844 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 4: You know, it's talking about who you're putting off. I 845 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,720 Speaker 4: kept saying to them, They like, oh, I can't vote 846 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 4: off Parisa. 847 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 3: She's my friend. 848 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 4: And I finally looked at them and said, hey, friends, 849 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 4: you are going to be voting off your friends this 850 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 4: right next week, just newsflash, it's coming, and they look 851 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 4: it's coming. 852 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 3: They looked at me like, huh. 853 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean there again, right, the voice of 854 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,399 Speaker 2: reason there again. It's like, guys, it doesn't matter whether 855 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,240 Speaker 2: it's this week or next week. It's happening because otherwise, 856 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 2: what are you going to vote yourself off? No, so, 857 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 2: at one point or another, you're voting one of your 858 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 2: friends off of this show, right, So good good advice. 859 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 4: In the moment, they don't you know, no one wants 860 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 4: to think about from the moment. They want to think 861 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 4: love will triumph all There'll be five hundred thousand for 862 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 4: every couple, We're all going to walk away Kumbaya arman 863 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 4: ar Nope. 864 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,240 Speaker 3: Not nope. 865 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 2: Trust me when I tell you the show ain't that generous. 866 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 2: There's still I'm still pretty convinced there's going to be 867 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 2: some type of loophole that five hundred thousand. I'm still 868 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 2: not all the way there yet. So then you know, 869 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 2: this is a ten this moment. Dale takes one for 870 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 2: the team, right and decides he's going to break wind 871 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 2: to get everyone to laugh, and then blames it on 872 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 2: old Gonza, our boy. 873 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 1: Gonza's like, I. 874 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 4: Didn't I didn't do it to be fair to Dale, 875 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 4: you know anything. I mean, it's a bodily function and 876 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 4: Keith could handle it. You know, it was a little white. 877 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 4: But that was before the last rose. 878 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 2: Right, yes, yes, it was. The last rose was a 879 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 2: big surprise, wasn't it, Because you've still got another potential 880 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 2: couple that is technically a couple. And Leah gives a 881 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 2: rose to Julias the call, which she's shocked by, and 882 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 2: then gives her rose to Jonathan. Now do you think 883 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 2: there's any chance that had Alicia and Sean not walked off. 884 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,240 Speaker 1: That they would have gotten a rose? 885 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,439 Speaker 2: Because I know Jesse said, you know, they weren't getting 886 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 2: the rows anyway, but I would say that too if 887 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 2: I was hosting, even if it wasn't true. Do you 888 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 2: think there was any chance that they might have been 889 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 2: safe and they just and Sean. 890 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 3: Not a chance. Okay, that's my thought. I don't know. 891 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 4: I didn't see how people voted, but I was not 892 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 4: surprised when when they went. You know, I was surprised 893 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 4: that Alicia said, we're going to self eliminate, but I 894 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 4: was not surprised that they I don't think they would 895 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 4: have gotten the rose. As I said, I was surprised 896 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 4: that I was still there because remember it's now down 897 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 4: to the young people and one golden couple. And yes, 898 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 4: they love us, they want to spend time with us, 899 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 4: they want our opinions, and they don't want us to win, 900 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 4: and that's right. So I was surprised. But what surprised 901 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 4: me more was Jonathan when he when when Leon gets 902 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 4: the rose and gives it to Jonathan that he just 903 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,919 Speaker 4: straight up says, great, you know, let's go. We got 904 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 4: to start being strategizing. 905 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 3: How we're going to win. 906 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 4: It's like he is underscoring the fact that he has 907 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 4: no romantic interest in layout zippity right. 908 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,320 Speaker 3: Lay a crime. She wants to be married to wants. 909 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: He did throw a liplock on her, though he did 910 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: throw a liplock who knows? 911 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 3: Fair enough, who knows? 912 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 4: But she sure spent a lot of time crying, saying 913 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,320 Speaker 4: she wished she found her guy. And Jonathan is busy 914 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 4: talking about five hundred thousand dollars. And by the way, 915 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 4: should Jonathan win five hundred thousand dollars? 916 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 3: You know he owes half of the dude, don't you. 917 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 2: Well, I would say to you, by uh, what's it 918 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 2: April for keeping her around? Yeah, yeah, I'd say half 919 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 2: of it to you too, and then of course half 920 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 2: the government. 921 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 1: So he'll he'll be uh, you know, he might make 922 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: a couple like forty. 923 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 3: Dollars ninety five. 924 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: You never know. 925 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 2: So the previous for next week get interesting, right. You 926 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 2: see people with fly swatters freaking out. We know that 927 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 2: this is Kat's biggest fear. Maybe they just think she's 928 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 2: been spent too composed this whole time. They want to 929 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 2: see her go bonkers. Spencer feels like he doesn't you 930 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 2: can trust. And then we see Spencer and Jess talking 931 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 2: about moving in and Jess is like, I don't know 932 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 2: if we're on the same page with that, and she 933 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 2: seems all of a sudden, I mean, this week, I 934 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,800 Speaker 2: hope it's the last first date we ever have. Next week, 935 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 2: you know, I'm never I don't think we're going to 936 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 2: move in. It's like, oh my gosh. 937 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, to be fair, you can fall in 938 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 4: love with someone, but that doesn't mean the next step, 939 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 4: the very next step is hey, you moving in? I mean, right, 940 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 4: we can have a few months in between, right, So 941 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 4: I think I think, I think when you're young and 942 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 4: paradise is a condensed romance. That so I'm I'm guessing 943 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 4: there's a little bit coming and going I'm in love. 944 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 4: Whoa this is going fast? Boy, I'm really in love? 945 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 3: Whoa this? 946 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna pump the brakes. I need to make 947 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 2: sure this is real. What are we like when the 948 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 2: cameras are off? I mean, that's how I felt when 949 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 2: I was the Bachelor. To be honest, I remember thinking 950 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 2: I was like, I mean, okay, yeah, but I'm not 951 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 2: taking a helicopter into a volcano on a date in Detroit. 952 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 2: It just doesn't happen, you know. So this is where 953 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 2: you actually say which I which? I love you say? Hey, 954 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 2: you know what, I know. I'm on borrow time now right, 955 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 2: my time is coming. I hope to win the challenge 956 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 2: next week so I can stick around a little bit longer. 957 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 2: And then we see the armor crack on Keith and 958 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 2: in the previous and he's like, I'm really homesick. I 959 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 2: want to go home. Yeah, And he is such a dad, right, 960 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 2: He's such a girl dad, and he loves being the 961 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 2: girl dad. And and uh, he's starting he's starting to 962 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 2: miss his family. 963 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 3: Talks about that. I mean, he is close with his 964 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 3: his daughters. 965 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, he loves them to death. Oh my gosh. 966 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 3: And that's a wonderful train about him. 967 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: Oh heck yeah. 968 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 2: I can only imagine though at this point. I mean, 969 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 2: you're you're thinking, Okay, we gotta play smart, we got 970 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 2: to stick around. And he's like, hey, I'm ready to 971 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 2: go home. 972 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,800 Speaker 1: I'm homesick. So that's got to create an interesting conversation 973 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:47,399 Speaker 1: for next week. 974 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 2: I would think I would think, yeah, well you would know. 975 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see it. 976 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 3: You're a smart man. 977 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I just watch a lot 978 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:57,959 Speaker 1: of TV. 979 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 2: That's probably more than anything, but No, it was a 980 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 2: great episode. I feel like, and I hate to say 981 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,879 Speaker 2: it this way because it doesn't it's not gonna it's 982 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 2: not gonna resonate, it's not gonna ring true. 983 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: Because I've loved all the episodes so far, this. 984 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 2: Was my the first episode that I felt sincerely invested 985 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 2: in from a different place, like watching it today. I 986 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 2: got to watch it today earlier, and man, I couldn't 987 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 2: get enough of it, you know, Like I was like, what. 988 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 1: Is going on? It's like, this guy is gonna just 989 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: sell it's self distruct He's just oh my god, Like 990 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 1: I always wanted to jump in there and smack him. 991 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,919 Speaker 2: Around a little bit and be like, Okay, first of all, 992 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 2: let's get a little rasor going right, Let's trim that 993 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 2: down a little bit. Secondly, you're not that savvy, bro. 994 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,240 Speaker 2: People are watching you like they know what you're doing. 995 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 2: You know. 996 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:41,839 Speaker 1: I was worried about that. 997 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 4: I will say to you, I have been known to 998 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 4: have an opinion or two about one or two things 999 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 4: in my life, and I was really proud of myself 1000 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 4: that for the most part, I really tried to just 1001 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 4: lay low and say, just just speak the obvious, like 1002 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 4: you will be voting against your friends that and you 1003 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 4: need to lay off your you're you know, you're going 1004 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 4: at this a little too hard. 1005 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 3: I think you're turning people against you. I did say 1006 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:09,760 Speaker 3: that to him. 1007 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 2: So, yeah, well I think that was in the episode. 1008 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 2: I think, I think, if I'm not mistaken, at least 1009 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 2: I felt like it was. But yeah, I felt I 1010 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,280 Speaker 2: felt like you and Keith the one scene in particular, 1011 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 2: when she had already asked him stop and he pulls 1012 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 2: the two of you over, and it was almost like 1013 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 2: the two of you were looking at him like, oh, buddy, 1014 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 2: It's almost like you were looking at someone who was like, no, 1015 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 2: I didn't have any drinks tonight, and you're like mm hmm. 1016 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 1: Okay, but you know, and I was like watching you guys, thinking. 1017 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 4: We see a line of empty glasses right behind you. 1018 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,439 Speaker 1: And you're like, I doesn't us in a drink? 1019 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,799 Speaker 2: You know, okay, all right, buddy, But no, I thought 1020 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 2: I thought, you guys, you know, really did kind of 1021 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 2: have that that wisdom that someone like that kid needed 1022 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 2: to hear. 1023 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: And who knows, you know, he might he might be 1024 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 1: watching that episode now. 1025 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 2: And being like, man, I really miscalculated while I was 1026 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 2: doing there, or I like, he also might have watched 1027 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 2: the episode and just doubled out, like, you know, these 1028 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 2: people don't what they're doing, you know. 1029 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I don't know they guy 1030 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: you do, but I don't know. 1031 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 3: I could see it going either way. Frankly, I don't know. 1032 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,240 Speaker 4: That's the thing about being on the show and watching 1033 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 4: it back. I was like, oh my god, you know 1034 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 4: you have a whole perspective when you're watching it back. 1035 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: Well, you know, let me ask you this. 1036 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 2: So in in the show, uh and now watching it back, 1037 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 2: do you think Alicia and Sean will make it on 1038 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 2: the outside, Like, do you think they walked off that show? 1039 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 2: We thought we came here to find love, and we 1040 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 2: found it. We're out, And I mean, do you think 1041 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,280 Speaker 2: they can keep it together? 1042 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 4: I think they have a good shot. They're both from Tampa, 1043 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 4: so you know, it's not like getting on an airplane 1044 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,320 Speaker 4: and flying to California from New York City every weekend. 1045 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 4: So they they have a chance because they upon leaving, 1046 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,359 Speaker 4: they're going back to their lives and hey, I'm free 1047 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 4: for dinner. It's not a two hour drive, you know, 1048 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,720 Speaker 4: it's right, So I think, yeah, they the proximity maybe 1049 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 4: gives them a good chance, and they. 1050 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 3: Look great together. 1051 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: They do well. 1052 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 2: I think she would look pretty great with anybody actually, 1053 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,399 Speaker 2: and he's he's a pretty good looking guy too. 1054 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 3: So yeah, listen, I just sat there marveling at the 1055 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 3: handsome men and the beautiful young ladies on the show. 1056 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 3: Just they're they're all not only are they nice, but 1057 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 3: they're beautiful. So it just they're great people. They're great. 1058 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 2: This cast Golden's included all very beautiful people, and I 1059 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 2: think I think you're right. I think it was one 1060 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 2: of those things, like it was definitely it seemed to 1061 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 2: me like one of those casts where you know, wow, 1062 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,919 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you you meet these people and 1063 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 2: you just see the sparks and you're like, of course, 1064 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 2: you know, look at these two, you know, like I mean, 1065 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 2: every single one of them, you know, looks like they're 1066 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 2: you know, coming off the cover of GQ together. 1067 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,799 Speaker 4: So it's do you think that people always like to question, oh, 1068 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 4: you know, it's a joke, it's paradise, they're not together, 1069 00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 4: or they're not gonna this won't last. I think sometimes 1070 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,360 Speaker 4: magic happens. 1071 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:05,399 Speaker 1: I do too. 1072 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 2: I mean, hey, there's I think I'm going to say 1073 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:13,720 Speaker 2: this out loud. I think there as many marriages from 1074 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 2: Paradise as there are from the regular season. 1075 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,399 Speaker 3: I think that's probably right. 1076 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 1: I know there are. Oh, I shouldn't say, I know. 1077 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,800 Speaker 2: I'm more confident saying that there are as many marriages 1078 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,239 Speaker 2: on Paradise than there are from The Bachelor. Not sure 1079 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 2: about the Bachelrette and Bachelor combined though, But I would say. 1080 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,399 Speaker 1: I'm probably right on that. Heather fact check. But yeah, 1081 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 1: I would definitely think that there's something to it. 1082 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 2: And it also could be that you know that that 1083 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 2: is largely in part due to the fact that they've 1084 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,319 Speaker 2: all kind of been through this process before and now 1085 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 2: you're on the other side of it and you're willing 1086 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 2: to kind of give it another chance and maybe not 1087 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 2: be as attached to the outcome at the start, right, 1088 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 2: and also having eight people to look at instead of 1089 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 2: one and you're like, oh, well, that dude's definitely more 1090 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 2: my speed than that guy or whatever. You know. 1091 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 3: For me, it was a great thrill getting to hand 1092 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:04,800 Speaker 3: out roses. 1093 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fun, isn't it. 1094 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 3: I want just to be able to hand out a rose. 1095 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 4: Like I won Uh, Yeah, it's it's It is an 1096 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:21,319 Speaker 4: amazing place to be It is an amazing Uh, it's 1097 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 4: just an amazing situation to be in. And I think 1098 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 4: bringing in the game people, you're gonna have people just 1099 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,800 Speaker 4: like love on one side, money on the other side. 1100 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 4: You're gonna have people who love bringing in the money 1101 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,879 Speaker 4: and the gaming aspect, and people who want to keep 1102 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 4: it purely love. 1103 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. I I gotta be honest. 1104 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 2: I'm I was torn at the beginning, and I'm really 1105 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 2: happy about the money aspect now because. 1106 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 1: I, uh, I don't know why. I find it more. 1107 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 2: Uh, there's a little more like, a little more cunning, 1108 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,319 Speaker 2: a little more you know, strategy involved, I guess in 1109 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,439 Speaker 2: that regard. But also because I like seeing the fact 1110 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,360 Speaker 2: that we might see someone walk off this thing with money, 1111 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 2: and you know, who knows. 1112 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 1: It could be It could be Jonathan. 1113 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,799 Speaker 4: You know, here's the thing, it's we're doubling down here. 1114 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,720 Speaker 4: You we could see couples, a couple, two, three couples 1115 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 4: walk off in love, and we might see a totally 1116 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,239 Speaker 4: different couple walk off with. 1117 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 3: Five hundred thousand dollars. 1118 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 1: That would be awesome. 1119 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 3: How for a teaser? 1120 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,839 Speaker 2: Oh my god, but you have four winners technically, right, 1121 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 2: that'd be pretty amazing. 1122 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,399 Speaker 1: Well, well, Kathy. I love you, my friend. 1123 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,319 Speaker 2: Thank you for always making time for me, and thanks 1124 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 2: for coming on almost famous to OG's and giving us 1125 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,360 Speaker 2: a first hand recap of your your most recent Bachelor 1126 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:38,280 Speaker 2: in Paradise episode. 1127 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 1: You were spectacular on the show. 1128 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 2: You and Gonzo also such a such a cute, loving friendship. 1129 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 2: You know, I like teasing you guys all the time, 1130 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,360 Speaker 2: but I do love you both and so glad that 1131 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,280 Speaker 2: you guys found each other in friendship. 1132 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,319 Speaker 4: We love you too, and I this was great. I 1133 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,720 Speaker 4: thoroughly enjoyed doing this. Give your gorgeous wife a hunt 1134 00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 4: for me. 1135 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 2: I will, I definitely will can. Thank you so much 1136 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 2: again for joining us, and hopefully we get to do 1137 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:02,839 Speaker 2: this again soon. 1138 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,280 Speaker 3: I would love to anytime.