1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: This is the almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio. Welcome to 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: Iheartradios almost Famous the Ogs. I am Bob Guiney, and 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: unfortunately my co host Trista is not available to join 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: me today, so you won't get the wonderful pizazz of 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: Trista Sutter and Nae Wren. But I do have a 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: great guest who's with us today. You know her from 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: Lorenzo Prince Lorenzo Borghesi's season of The Bachelor way back 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: in two thousand and six, which is crazy. So this 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: really is OG style because I was two thousand and three. 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: Trista and I were two thousand and two and three, 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: So there you go. I mean, this is going way back. 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: You remember her from her Tiera and she came on 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: she was basically a princess, Erica Rose, and Erica is here. 14 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: She's gonna join us and we're gonna find out all 15 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: things that are going on with Erica. So let's bring 16 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: her in. Ladies and gentlemen of the almost famous OG family, 17 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: please help me welcome miss Erica Rose. Hi. Wait a minute, 18 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: is that your tr Is that the old school tirro 19 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: from back in the day. 20 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 2: It's a headband. 21 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: Nice to see you too. How are you. 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: I'm good. I can't remember if we've ever met irl 23 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:21,279 Speaker 2: and realized. 24 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we did, like some event years ago. 25 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: It was very brief, though, and I remember I remember thinking, man, 26 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: I realized she's so nice, you know. But it was 27 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: crazy because I didn't realize. So, I mean, obviously I 28 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: was just talking about before you came in. I was, 29 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: you know, way back in the day, of course, two 30 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: thousand and three. But then I realized, I'm like, oh 31 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: my god, you guys were two thousand and six. You 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: weren't that far behind me. 33 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 34 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: I watched your season, of course, and I felt like, 35 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: but sometimes I think I met someone and then it's like, 36 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: oh we met online. 37 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: You never know, Yeah, I know yours. 38 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: Honestly. 39 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: I think you have a great attitude, always positive, Oh well. 40 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: Thank you, and the feeling is mutual. I know you. 41 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: I always thought you were like the first one that 42 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: came on with your own thing going on, you know, 43 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: like that was before. I feel like you coming on 44 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: with a tiara and being like, I'm a princess and 45 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: I deserve to be treated a certain way, you know. 46 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: I think it really resonated with people and I'm sure 47 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: it was polarizing to some right, I'm sure you got 48 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: some grief, but obviously you know it made you very noteworthy. 49 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: And was it one of those things like like walking 50 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: into it, you were just like I've got an idea, 51 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: I'm going for it and I'm holding true. Like how 52 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: did you make the decision to go in? 53 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: Well, it was literally because the bachelor of my season 54 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 3: still friends with me. Prince learns of borghese, that's why 55 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: I wore a tiara because he was a prince before that, 56 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 3: I only wan worn one literally once at my twenty 57 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: third birthday, and then it just became a thing. But 58 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 3: Lorenzo actually came to my husband and my wedding. 59 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome. 60 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: Eight lifelong friends. 61 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 3: But yeah, I always tell people I wouldn't have worn 62 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: a tiara, you know it was your season or like righters, 63 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have came in with the crown being like 64 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: I'm your princess. 65 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: That would have been so random. 66 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people like, don't get that 67 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: I did that because he was a prince. 68 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 2: I was surprised not more girls did that. 69 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 3: I know. 70 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: It is actually when you think about it that way, 71 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: it makes perfect sense, right, you come in you're like, hey, 72 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: I mean, if you were on Jesse's season, you would 73 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: have come in with a football helmet, right, I mean, 74 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot of ways to go. 75 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: And I didn't. 76 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: I don't even think I would have done like Jesse's 77 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 3: season because I don't think I would have been his hype. 78 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: Whereas like Lorenzo, weird lifelong fronts. So there was something 79 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: to that, just feeling like either, you know, we could 80 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: be a good match, but if not, like I made 81 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 3: a lifelong frunt. 82 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: So that's really cool. 83 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I really love Lorenzo. He and I met at 84 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: the Kentucky Derby several years back, and I remember just 85 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: I liked his whole thing, you know, and it's like 86 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: he came in and was just just a nice, nice guy. 87 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: In fact, I still keep in touch with them. And 88 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: he just sent me some of his beer, which is 89 00:03:59,480 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: really good. 90 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: Oh I need to try that. 91 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: I'm not a huge beer person, but still I'm sure 92 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: his is really good. 93 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like you're drinking like a popsicle, which 94 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: I'm like that. You know, I'm not a big beer 95 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: guy either, so yeah, very sweet. But that okay, so 96 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: you go on the show obviously, you know you're a 97 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: fan favorite. People really kind of resonate with you and 98 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: you you got down. How far did you go on 99 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: Lorenzo season? Were you done? The final four? 100 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: It was kind of like the final eight, But then 101 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: the producers brought me back to judge a competition when 102 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: there were six girls left and picked the top two winners, 103 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 3: and the two that I picked, Jen and Sadie ended 104 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 3: up being in the final two. Well, it was there longer, 105 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: but I was really like number eight eliminated. 106 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I kind of went my season. I was 107 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: I was technically like the fifth guy left because they 108 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: hadn't really figured I think they went to six and 109 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: then they went to four. And similarly, I remember like 110 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: I thought I was I was done. You know. So 111 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm watching the show at home like everybody else, and 112 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 1: every week I'm still in it doing something. 113 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, That's how I was like editing it and I'm like, 114 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: I was like doing this one thing, like in a bathtub. 115 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, I wasn't there though, I was back home. 116 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 3: But it was fun because I got to hang out 117 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 3: in Rome with a handler, you know, for a couple year. 118 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: That was nice. That was at that point. 119 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: That's so awesome. Yeah, you you were one of the 120 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it was before your season, but 121 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: it became a thing where obviously with Lorenzo, you know, 122 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: being in Italy was was key, but I feel like 123 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: that sort of kick started the season starting to travel 124 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: a lot more and a lot earlier. You know. 125 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was kind of oh, like I felt I 126 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 3: was twenty three, so it was a little over I've 127 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 3: been overseas, I'd been to Italy, but it was overwhelming 128 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 3: to me. I think, like leaving my dog, leaving my family, 129 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: like going to Italy. I think it would have been 130 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 3: like when I did Bachelor Pad and it was in 131 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 3: la that was a lot less scary. 132 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. 133 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: There was something about like the whole season being in 134 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 3: Italy that was just it. 135 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 2: Really felt like Wow, I'm like really like going away 136 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 2: to a foreign country like this, this is crazy. 137 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a big deal. I mean I remember 138 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: when they traveled the show that year, and the whole 139 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: thing I mean I heard his stories was the mansion. 140 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: Like you now, did you all stay in the same mansion. 141 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you gotta refresh my memory, but were you 142 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: guys all in the same mansion on that one or 143 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: was it did you have different homes? 144 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 3: So, yeah, we stayed in the same place. I didn't 145 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: make it to like overnight traveling dates or anything. But 146 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: it was funny because the villa in Italy was not 147 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: like as nice as the Bachelor mansion, only because it 148 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 3: was Italy. It was the summer, and it's like Houston 149 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 3: summer weather, but in Italy, I'm like, here, there's no 150 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: air conditioning, right, old villa that was one of his 151 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 3: I think relatives villas from back. 152 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 2: In the day. So it was hot. 153 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 3: Af We were like seating like glow, like not cutely 154 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 3: but glowing all our and they were like bringing in 155 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 3: fans to cool us down. So like it was a 156 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 3: beautiful villa, but it was really uncomfortably hot. Yeah, the 157 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: mansion honestly was a lot nicer, even though we slept, 158 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 3: you know, in bunk buds when we did back, which 159 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 3: was also so crazy. Yeah, like literally having sex in 160 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 3: the bunk beds, Like, well, I go, but I just 161 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: didn't care. 162 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 2: We were so tired. I'm like, I'm just so asleep. 163 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: Well, I was gonna say, I remember talking to Lorenzo 164 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: about the villain Italy and he was like, oh my god, 165 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: it was amazing. But yeah, he's like, but you know, yes, 166 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: I do remember that. 167 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, we went and we did have a date at 168 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: his billow where he was staying the one I was 169 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: eliminated at two on one. But where he was staying 170 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: was nice, you know, of course air conditioning. Yeah, like closet. 171 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 3: I don't know, so of course this would be nicer. 172 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: But people thought it was funny. When I remember I 173 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: complained about where we were staying. It wasn't the aesthetics. 174 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 3: It was that it was about one hundred degrees in 175 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: like the summer in Rome, and there was no air. 176 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: You know, that was crazy, you know. 177 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: Knowing the producers, I gotta believe they were like, this 178 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: would be great. It'll really get the women pissed off. 179 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: It'll be fantastic, you know what I mean. Yeah, but 180 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: then you mentioned that. So yeah, so you went from 181 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: Bachelor your you know, top top ten of course on 182 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: a bachelor topic, and then you go how long were 183 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: you home before they called you about bachelor? Pepe? 184 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 3: My like, life moved on, like I literally started law 185 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: school and was like that's it, Like I'm going to 186 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 3: be you know, time passed I started lost, like thinking 187 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: like two thousand and nine, yeah, and maybe twenty ten, 188 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: but anyway, and so then I was like in law 189 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 3: school doing my thing, and they invited me to kind 190 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: of like a little not reunion. 191 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: But it was after like a men's taping. 192 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 3: Of the tel you know, the reunion yah in La 193 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 3: went to that, and then they were like, we'd love 194 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: to have you on Bachelor Pad. I didn't do it 195 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 3: the first season because I had a really good summer 196 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 3: clerkship in law school with like this criminal fence layer. 197 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: So I think I had a lot of friends that 198 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: did that season. 199 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 3: But I ended up doing Bachelor Pod season two and three, 200 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 3: which was three was the final season. 201 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, was it awesome? I mean, did you did you 202 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: love it? Was it a great experience? Was it? No? 203 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 3: Bachelor itself was a great experience. I can't say that 204 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: I on that the first Bachelor pat I did. I 205 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 3: can't say it was a bad experience because I made 206 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 3: good friends like Vienna for example, my friend Melissa. They 207 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 3: all came to my wedding, so in that regard, like 208 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 3: and even Michelle Money I love her, Yeah to their wedding, 209 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: you know, So I can't say I regret doing it 210 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: because of the cool friends that I made, even though 211 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 3: I got eggs thrown at me, Like I honestly wasn't. 212 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: I forgot about that, but it was it was like 213 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 3: more at the time, I was just so busy and 214 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: wanting to move on because I had to gool. But 215 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 3: then it was more awkward when I was dating someone 216 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: like not on the show, you know, in real life, 217 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 3: and they would see the egg toss challenge and be like, 218 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 3: oh my god, you're the least attractive girl in the 219 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 3: house because that's what the things said. So I was 220 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: really lucky when I met my husband that he had 221 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 3: only seen The Bachelor but not Bachelor Pad still hasn't 222 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 3: watched it. He knows about the challenge, but I didn't. 223 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 3: I don't think I brought it up to him until 224 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 3: maybe we were married a couple of years. 225 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: Well, I think you probably can guess at this point 226 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: that was a pretty produced moment for them to say 227 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: something like that anyway, because clearly that's not the case. 228 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: But well, you know, it's funny. I mean, I I 229 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: got invited back, and it was kind of fun for 230 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: me to entertain the idea. But they had called me 231 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: at one point about Bachelor Pad, and I was like, 232 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: I thought they meant to host it. You know, it 233 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: was for the first one. So I was like, oh, 234 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, maybe I would do that. That sounds fun. 235 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: And they're like, no, we want to have an actual 236 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, one of the like the bachelors on it. 237 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: And I'm like, so tell me the concept, you know, 238 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: And I remember how they pitched it to me, and 239 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: then I remember kind of looking into it a little 240 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: bit more and I'm like, are you kidding me? I 241 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: would get killed there. Like it's like Survivor meets. 242 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 2: Hard Yeahelor in Paradise. They have it easy. I mean, 243 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: they're just hanging at the beach. 244 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 3: The challenges we were doing were like these kind of 245 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 3: like real world brogruals challenges from. 246 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 2: Back in the day if you ever watched that would 247 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: be like yes. 248 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 3: Down, synchronized swimming, just like the craziest things. Obviously a 249 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 3: lot of them were not my strong suit. Ones that 250 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 3: all more like strategizing. It was better at but I 251 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 3: Jake did it, you know, the former back Yeah, yeah, 252 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 3: And so I you know, I thought it was cool 253 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 3: that he was there. I thought I was like, he's 254 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: the cutest one because he was the only one that 255 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 3: was a bachelor. So I think I feel like you 256 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 3: would have done well on it. 257 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 2: Just the seasons. Everyone would have liked you. 258 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: I think I would have gotten thank you. It's very 259 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: sweet of you to say I would have gotten killed. 260 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: I literally thought about it. I was like, I don't 261 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: even understand. When I watched Survivor, I get so uncomfortable, 262 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: Like I'm always like, oh my god, how do they 263 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: form alliances and all this kind of stuff. I'm like, 264 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: I would never make it. 265 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 3: But because the alliances started before, like people would remember, 266 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 3: my friend Casey Kale called me up like I had 267 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 3: met him at some reunion party and he called me 268 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 3: up ahead of time, being like, okay, girl, you're gonna 269 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 3: be in my life. I'm like what wtff? Like people 270 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 3: are already strategizing. I was lucky to have that. 271 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, he did. 272 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 3: Like, since I was so bad at the challenges, it 273 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 3: really did carry you a long way. And looking back, 274 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 3: even at season three, the last one I did, I 275 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 3: was upset with my friend Michael Stagliano at the time, 276 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 3: but he was like, I saved you from like four eliminations. 277 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 3: You literally lost every challenge, So I think I shouldn't 278 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 3: have been asn't sat with him as I was in 279 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 3: filling betrayed when you know, yeah me and then I 280 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 3: elimitated him. Whatever, it's all water under the bridge. But 281 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: it's just you know, you reflect and you look back. 282 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: But the alliance stuff, and it was kind of a 283 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 3: chaotic environment for sure. 284 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and it was kind of uncharted waters, right 285 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: because it's also like everybody's probably hooking up and like 286 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: you said, you know, you're in a bunk bed. It's like, 287 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: I think it would be so uncomfortable. Okay, so you 288 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: go through that, you're are you a lawyer yet or 289 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: are you Where are you at? At that point? 290 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 3: I graduated law school and then instead of so I 291 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: like season two was fine. I should have just like 292 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 3: taken the bar exam with all my friends from law 293 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 3: school in the summer of twenty two. That's the only 294 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: thing I regat is doing season three. I think in 295 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 3: my mind, I was like, didn't find love in season two? Yeah, 296 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: actually had I'm going to do it this time. I 297 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 3: had just turned twenty nine, so all my friends from Houston, 298 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 3: like back home, were getting married, and I really should 299 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 3: have just like taken my bar exam and just moved 300 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 3: on with my life. 301 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 2: But instead I didn't do that. 302 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 3: So I filmed season three and like nothing horrible happens, 303 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 3: but like didn't find love. So I think I had 304 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 3: a time where after that I was like, Okay, I'm 305 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 3: done with this. You know, I thought I wanted to 306 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 3: do entertainment media a lot. Like, stayed in LA for 307 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: a little bit, had a baby. My acts who were friends, 308 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 3: still co parents whatever. Then I moved back to Houston 309 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 3: with her, my daughter, reconnected with my husband, got married. 310 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 3: We studied for our bar exams together. I passed it 311 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 3: and so I've been a lawyer almost five years. And 312 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: then my husband I also have a daughter together, so 313 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 3: I have two daughters. 314 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: I know, congratulations, they're adorable. I was looking at some 315 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: pictures earlier, Holland and Aspen. Those are awesome as thank you, 316 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: You're welcome. And I like that they're both middle name 317 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: Rows too. I think that's very cool. 318 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because everyone growing up always called me 319 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 3: Eric Caros because Eric has such a common name, so 320 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 3: there was always one other Eric on my grade. 321 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: Yes, I was Air Crows. 322 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: So I felt like with my kids, they just go 323 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 3: buy their first names because their first names are so cool. 324 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 3: But I liked giving them my name is a middle name, 325 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 3: especially because they both have different last names than each other. 326 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: You know, yeah, that's last name, and so I thought 327 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 3: like that would be cool. 328 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: I think that's super cool actually, And that's a great 329 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: way to think about it too. I wasn't even thinking 330 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: about the fact that they had different last names. So 331 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: that's beautiful ties them together even more. 332 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 3: You know, they're so close and they're funny, and of 333 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: course they they're already fighting over clothes, like they wear 334 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 3: the same side and they're four and a half and 335 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 3: six and a half. And the other day Holland was 336 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 3: wearing Asbin's dress and ass like that's mine. 337 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 2: Holland, Like, there are so funny. 338 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: Me are they? Are they into fashion? Like do they 339 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: love like getting all dressed up and stuff? 340 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, especially my daughter Holland, But she wants to dress 341 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: like I do. So she's always looking for like fashion. 342 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 3: But she's like obsessed with Taylor Swift. I just took 343 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: her to the concert. She loved it. But she's very 344 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 3: into like fashion. She's the one that made me get 345 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,119 Speaker 3: its TikTok. She's like, mom, we need to make it TikTok. 346 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: You guys do the dances all the stuff. 347 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they shattered it than me. 348 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: Fun, that's awesome. Now you then from the show you 349 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: jump in, so you're you're you're practicing law now right, 350 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: everything's going great, and then you get a call to 351 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: go on below deck or do you about that? 352 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 3: So how that happened is they were always the blow 353 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 3: deck people. They I think they just somehow get your 354 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 3: email from like I don't even know. They started emailing me, 355 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 3: and it was never a good time to do it. 356 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 3: Besides during twenty twenty, because I did it twice during 357 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 3: twenty twenty. It was like we not a lot of us, 358 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: had a lot of things going on with my girlfriend, 359 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 3: so it was kind of like girls trip. It was 360 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 3: a bunch of my friends that we had all lived 361 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 3: in LA at the same time, but now we're all 362 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 3: all over the country. So for once in our lives, 363 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 3: like we had a week off basically to go to 364 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 3: Croatia and do this. And yeah, I owned my own business, 365 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 3: my own law room, so I figured it's good marketing 366 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 3: but also be a fun girls trip. I hadn't done 367 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 3: that since having kids, and I still haven't done it. 368 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: Since then. 369 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 3: Literally, yeah, and since my husband didn't come the first time, 370 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 3: it was it was fun and he stayed home and 371 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: watched the kids, so that was good. And then he 372 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 3: came back with me last or two summers ago, and 373 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 3: that was very, very chaotic. But so I didn't really 374 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 3: receive negativity when I met with my friends, but I 375 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 3: was surprised at when my husband came with me that 376 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 3: people were getting really nasty, like on social media, just 377 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 3: saying things like people would message me being like, oh girl, 378 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 3: I hope you like get divorce. I feel so bad 379 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 3: for you, or like I feel bad and I'm like, you, guys, 380 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 3: this is not real life. He's a great dad, he's 381 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: a really good husband, and it was helpful to me that, 382 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 3: I mean, he was choosing to act a little bit. 383 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: Chaotic in my opinion. He was a theater major in 384 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 2: college and I felt like it was he had never 385 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: gotten to use that degree. 386 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: Made this was his time. Yeah, fine, but. 387 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 2: He's really a nice person for sure. 388 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 3: It was definitely it didn't acpect him to fight with 389 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: like my hairdresser, and just like all the things that happened, 390 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 3: it was a lot, but like we have moved on 391 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 3: from it. 392 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 2: But it's weird. We know when they're re airing it. 393 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 3: Because we'll still he'll he especially will get like random 394 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 3: people hating on him on Instagram, And the Colodex airings 395 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 3: were like, I guess they're refeeding episodes. 396 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 2: I don't know. 397 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,719 Speaker 1: Here we go get well. It says it was one 398 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: of the highest rated episodes, so it's probably why, right. 399 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, but it wasn't fun. I think now 400 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 3: that I'm no one like talked badly about me as 401 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 3: a lawyer. I just got Rising Star Super Lawyer, which 402 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 3: is like a really big award. 403 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: But that's awesome. 404 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 2: Thank you for Family Law. 405 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not like you're in a small town either, 406 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: you know, you're city. 407 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't like the negativity. 408 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 3: My husband was like, he's literally like the kind of 409 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 3: person that's zero f's given, Like that'sh wucking nuts like 410 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 3: him basically, So. 411 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: He really didn't care. 412 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 3: He was sad that I cared, But I think I 413 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: took it personally because I don't know why people were 414 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 3: mentioning things about my kids when they weren't on the trip, 415 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 3: So to say that that reflects on us or him 416 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 3: as a parent, I don't get the logical connection. We 417 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 3: were gone that time for three days and the kids 418 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 3: weren't there, and like us, someone acts on a yacht, 419 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 3: you know. 420 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: Without la Oh my god. Yeah, it's not how they 421 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 2: act at home with it. 422 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: I think, you know, it's so funny, because not funny. 423 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that, but it's so interesting to me. 424 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: It's almost like a like the biggest social science experiment 425 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: in the world, right, Like you go on these shows 426 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: and and and in the Internet is harsh. I mean, Tristan, 427 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 1: I we talked about of the bunch, but you came 428 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: along when you start when you were on The Bachelor, 429 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: I think was when it was really kind of starting 430 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: off with social media, right, And yeah, we didn't have 431 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: it at all when we did the show. So like, 432 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: you know, if I didn't stumble into a chat room, 433 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: I thought everybody loved me, you know, and then I know, 434 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: God forbid, you know, my friends would be like, dude, 435 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, I. 436 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: Think most people did like you from what I wrote. 437 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: Oh thank you, you'd be surprised though. I mean I 438 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: used to say it. I was like I would, I 439 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: tell my wife. Now I'm always like, look back in 440 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: the day, I'm like I would see a hundred nice 441 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: things about me, and then I'd see one negative thing 442 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: and I couldn't get out of my head for like weeks. Right, 443 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: And people don't realize the power that that stuff has 444 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: on social media because we are real people, and you know, 445 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: like you said, your husband doesn't care. I wish I 446 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: had that power. I care too much, you know, with me. 447 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 3: And so I just kind of like learned to tune 448 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 3: it out. I used to not block people on Instagram 449 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 3: when they would write something rude. Now I'm just like blocked, blocked, 450 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 3: like I don't want to hear from that. If someone's 451 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 3: come to me with like constructive criticism, that's positive, I'll listen. 452 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 3: But if they're just gonna be hateful, body shaming, whatever 453 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 3: negative prop they're doing, like I'm going to just block 454 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 3: that person because I don't I really don't have time 455 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 3: guard anymore. And yeah, it does get in your psyche 456 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 3: and it does affect you, and it can be so 457 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 3: toxic and hurtful. 458 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 2: So I just no longer entertain it. 459 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you have to, I mean, especially when you know, 460 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: you've got a successful career going, you have a good marriage, 461 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: you have great kids. It's like you know, at the 462 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: end of the day, you did a few things that 463 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: were fun, and you got to go on a you know, 464 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: a trip to Croatia, which is a dream of mine. 465 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: By the way, you should do it, but not that. 466 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 3: I mean, you've got just go anyways, yeah, you know, 467 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 3: or just go without a yat. 468 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 2: But it's a really beautiful country. 469 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: It really is. Now do you what is your is 470 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: your heritage? Do you have any like is Croatia. 471 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 3: It was so funny because when I was in Croatia, 472 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 3: so many people thought I was part Yeah, I'm like 473 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 3: I could be. 474 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: I thought maybe you were, because yeah, you resemble a 475 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: friend of mine. Yeah, she's just got these she's just 476 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: very she's got a lot of the Croatian qualities and 477 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: they're very beautiful people, obviously, you know, thank you. 478 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 3: I mean it was funny because several people thought that. 479 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 3: But I have like a lot of different ancestry. I've 480 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 3: done my DNA. It's always interesting to find. 481 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 2: Out new things. Yeah, but it's a bunch of stuff. 482 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: In Croatia is not in the mix. Huh. 483 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 3: No, it was part Swedish, there was my grandmother was 484 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 3: born in like Turkey, and then I have like Polish 485 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 3: just like kind of everything. 486 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: Basically, Yeah, well that's interesting. Are good for you, That's 487 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: pretty awesome. I mean, at the end of the day, 488 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: I need to get to my We did a twenty 489 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: three and meat thing here on the show. And I 490 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: was always told growing up that I was American, Indian 491 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: and Irish, okay, and nothing else, right, that was it 492 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: just like basically these two, you know, main things, and 493 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: I didn't know which one had a heavier lean Like 494 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: I didn't know if I was more American Indian or 495 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: more Irish. I have assumed more Irish, but my dad 496 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: was like really dark hair, dark skins. I'm like, maybe 497 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: I'm American, Indian, Irish equal split. Come to find out, Uh, 498 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: you know, my American Indian numism is like this big, 499 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: and you know my Irish, Scottish, German. You have a 500 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: million other things, you know, So I'm like, oh, this 501 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: isn't what I expected. I was, frankly, I was a 502 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: little disappointed because I was kind of like, you know, 503 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: I liked being you know, in my mind, being the 504 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: sixatic mix, you know, didn't necessarily work out, so who knows. 505 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: And it's so interesting. 506 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 3: My husband, my husband didn't do his but his sister did, 507 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 3: and so they found out they have, like part Pacific Islander, 508 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 3: a lot of Greek heritage, which I think is cool. 509 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 3: So a lot of people always think he's Italian, but yeah, 510 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 3: it's funny when you do it and you're I mean, 511 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 3: I hope it's accurate and they're not just making stuff up, 512 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: but you. 513 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: Know, I hope. So, yeah, that would suck. That would 514 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: suck really bad. So now what's going on with you? 515 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: Obviously you're practicing law. You're a rising star in your 516 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: office there, I mean in his family law. Right, did 517 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: your experiences influence that at all? Yes? 518 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,239 Speaker 2: They definitely, well kind of. 519 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 3: So I was going to do entertainment media, but then 520 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 3: I told one of my friends in LA I wanted 521 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 3: to do family law. And that is how I met 522 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 3: my daughter, Holland's father. Is that my friend Nikki said, 523 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 3: I know this guy, he does high end family life. 524 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 2: I think he would like working with him, not like 525 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 2: setting a slot. But we were. 526 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 3: Working together for a little bit and then you know, 527 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: I really learned a lot from him, and then I 528 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 3: think I was just really ready, and so was he. 529 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 3: He has a child that's a now twenty year old son, 530 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 3: and we were like Christmas shopping one day for gifts 531 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 3: for his church, and he said the biggest thing he 532 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 3: regrets was not having a second child. And I was 533 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 3: thirty thirty one at the time, and I was like 534 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 3: I was just at the moment like okay, you know, yeah, yeah, 535 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 3: but one thing led to another. We were dating, and 536 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 3: it's a very la thing, I guess to say, like 537 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: let's just have a baby, like who can? 538 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: I was about like getting married, you know, let's see 539 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 2: what happened. 540 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then after a couple months, like it was 541 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 3: faster than we thought, but we were trying. It was 542 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 3: not like oops, no, like this is like the only time, 543 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 3: but that I was like, I'm ready to be a mom, 544 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 3: you know. So we were pregnant, we thought, we moved 545 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 3: in together, like we kind of we thought about getting married, 546 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 3: tried that out. I mean, we didn't get married, but 547 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 3: thought about it, took it. And it was so crazy 548 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,479 Speaker 3: when we went to Jade and Tanner's wedding together. 549 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: Yeah that's where we met. That's where we met, where 550 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: we met. Knew it. Yes, Yeah, that. 551 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 3: Was such a nice wedding. It was I felt like 552 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 3: they were so in love and that's kind of weird. 553 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 3: But for me, that's when I knew, like, I don't 554 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 3: think that my ex and I should get married because 555 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 3: I wouldn't feel that way and I don't think he 556 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 3: would either, walking. 557 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: Down the aisle like they did. And it's okay. 558 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 3: It was a confusing time. I felt pressure, like from 559 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 3: my family that kind of thing. And then I on 560 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 3: this show Chris or on Jade and Tanner's wedding, The 561 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 3: Love Special. Chris was asking me like, when are you 562 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 3: guys going to get married? Because I was already like 563 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 3: a little pregnant. I was like, oh, we'll just have 564 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 3: a shotgun wedding, like just saying all the stuff. But 565 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: we took a few steps back and just decided, now 566 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Yeah, things happened, and move 567 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 3: back to Houston. But now we get along really well 568 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 3: as parents because that's the most important thing. And now 569 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 3: my daughter has two different dat like my husband and 570 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 3: her dad, you know, and that it's definitely taken a 571 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 3: while to get to that moment, but so that's how 572 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 3: I ended up. So going through that experience, I guess, yeah, 573 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: it strengthened me with family law because I have a 574 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 3: lot of compassion for my clients and whatever do. 575 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 2: I don't take it lightly. 576 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 3: I'm an impath, so it's hard for me to not 577 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 3: feel they're feelings sometimes and that's the biggest challenge. But 578 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 3: I feel like, based on my own experiences, I can 579 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 3: tell them, like I promise you, there's a light at 580 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 3: the end of the tunnel, Like one day you guys 581 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 3: will get along when they have kids together, because they're not. 582 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 3: You know, it might five years, it might take six years, 583 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 3: but especially when you both have moved on, you know we. 584 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 2: Have, then you can be good friends. 585 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: It might be Yeah, you know, it's a little perspective, right, 586 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: you just have a little time away. Yeah. And is 587 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: he still in La or is he? Did he have 588 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:19,959 Speaker 1: to become Houston too? 589 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 3: In La? 590 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 2: But he was just here over the weekend. 591 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 3: Our daughter performs at a halftime show at the Houston 592 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 3: Dynao Games, So that was so cute. And we go 593 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 3: back and forth, you know, but she lives here, goes 594 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 3: to school here, all that, and he and I agreed 595 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 3: to everything, like we're very much stuff. 596 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: And I don't know, it's just it was. 597 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 3: It's been a process, but it's been interesting, but I 598 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 3: feel like it's good. 599 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. 600 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 3: So Aside from that, I'm launching this thing called Slaying 601 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 3: Down the Law. It's not laying down the law. It's 602 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 3: like slayhing, you know, but it's gonna be like an 603 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 3: internet show. So far, I took some footage at this event. 604 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 3: I had a couple of week go and it was 605 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 3: kind of fun. So we'll just see what happens with that, 606 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 3: because I feel like I always need to creative outlet. 607 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, expect for me to be in charge of 608 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 2: it this time. 609 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: Well, I'm excited about slaying down the Law. That sounds 610 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: exciting to me. You know, it is true. It's like 611 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: once you go through this process and it's kind of funny. 612 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: But one of the critiques you know that everyone always 613 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: gets is like, oh, well, you know, you had to 614 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 1: taste of it. You can't get away from it. But 615 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: it is one of those things. It is kind of 616 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: like it really does get your creative juices flowing, and 617 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: you know, you see a show and you're like, I 618 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: could do that. You know, I can do something like that. 619 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: So good for you, especially when it's something you're passionate about. 620 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 2: Thank you. 621 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good because I'm doing it with Well, my 622 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 3: husband's going to be part of it. And then also 623 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 3: my friend Brandon, and he has like a really different perspective, 624 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 3: a really good one. He's gotten me really involved in 625 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 3: a lot of philanthropy. Like we went to a teen 626 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 3: shelter recently for Easter and like handed out easter baskets, 627 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 3: bought these teenagers girls. 628 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 2: They really touched my heart, you know. 629 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 3: So I've met one and gave her because but the 630 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 3: point is like he gets me out there in the 631 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 3: community doing like hands on volunteering. I feel like in 632 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 3: a different way in other communities that. 633 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have. So that's going to be part of 634 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 2: it too. 635 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 3: There's just so much, but I feel like it's going 636 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 3: to be cool and we're just Yeah, we shot some 637 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 3: things at like my Rising Stars Super Layer Slash fortieth birthday, 638 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 3: which is That's one thing they don't tell you is 639 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 3: when you go on The Bachelor and you're twenty three, 640 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 3: Like you don't care about your age being. 641 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 2: On the internet, but yeah. 642 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 3: Changes even from thirty nine to forty, Like forty just 643 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: looks a lot older, you. 644 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, it does. Wait till you get fifty, fifty 645 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: looks a lot older. 646 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: You're not no way, You're not fifty right. 647 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm gonna be fifty two. I'm gonna be fifty 648 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: two in a week. 649 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,239 Speaker 2: I have no idea of it. 650 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: Happy, almost terrified. 651 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 2: It's crazy, but you do not look it. 652 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: Thanks. Yeah, that's good. That's very sweet of you. You 653 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: know it's uh. I basically just soak my body in 654 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: as much vibe because I can at all times. And 655 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: I think having a four year old and a two 656 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: year old has been helpful. 657 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, girl, do you have a daughter? 658 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: I have both boys now, both boys, and you know, 659 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: it's it's funny. We Uh. I really thought our second 660 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: son was going to be a girl, like if I 661 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: were a betting person. At the time, I was like, 662 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: we definitely are having a girl. And I was prepared, 663 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: like I was. I was excited, you know, my daddy's 664 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: little girl. Like you think about all that stuff. But 665 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: I look at it now and I'm like, man, it's 666 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: the perfect mix for my wife and I. These two 667 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: little dudes are oh they're rough and tumble. They just 668 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: you know, they tear the house apart. They're going crazy 669 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: all the time, and and it's funny. But my wife 670 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,479 Speaker 1: is like just a really great boy dad. She's kind 671 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: of she's a tomboy, you know, she's just a really 672 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: great boy dad. So we would love to have another 673 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: one and try and hope for a girl. But I 674 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: even said it to the other day. I'm like, I'm 675 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: I'm already going to be fifty two. Like I'm already 676 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: going to be like the dude you know teat ball 677 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: games at Walker, I'll be like seventy. 678 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 3: You know, ex was I think fifty two. He's sixty 679 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 3: one now, so whatever. He was older when we had 680 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 3: our daughter, but I guess you never too. 681 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: Old, It's true, but I'm done. 682 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 3: Like my husband before we got married, he's like, I 683 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 3: want one has to be a girl. I thought my 684 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 3: second would be a boy because I love my brother, 685 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 3: and that's just what I thought. But I love having sisters, 686 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 3: and I feel like, for you having brothers, there's something 687 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 3: cool about having a lifelong best friend that when you 688 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 3: have whether when it's a different gen er, you won't 689 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 3: stay best friends for life, sadly because eventually you guys 690 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 3: both get married. 691 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 2: It's just different. 692 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 3: True, Like I was always envious of my friends that 693 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 3: had sisters and the bonds that they had, So I'm 694 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 3: excited for my daughters to have that. Yeah, your sons 695 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 3: will be like the same way. 696 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: I think. So do you ever think I mean, do 697 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: you and your husband, you and Chuck ever talk about 698 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: having another one? You know, you're done? 699 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 3: Like the opposite. He's such a girl dad, to the 700 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 3: point where we even got a boy dog and he 701 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 3: wasn't even vibing with that, so my dad had to 702 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 3: adopt our dog. He has another boy dog. We have 703 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 3: a female cat who my husband loves. But he's just 704 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 3: like the biggest girl dad. 705 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: Like. 706 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 3: He loves to come with us to get like how 707 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 3: to cure Yeah, I guess the kids will be like, 708 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 3: let's play. We have a basketball and that at our house, 709 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 3: and the kids want to do that. It's like kind 710 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 3: of up to me. He loves to watch sports. He 711 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 3: went to a and weer into watching sports, but actively 712 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 3: playing them is just not his thing. 713 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: Right. 714 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 2: I think it's really good that we have girls. 715 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Well you know what it's I mean, I 716 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: think it's great a lot as it works for you guys. 717 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: I mean that's amazing, right, That's what really matters. So 718 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you know, I was 719 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: going to ask you, like, when you look back at 720 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,479 Speaker 1: your time with the reality TV stuff, because obviously I 721 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: know you've you've really moved into a different chapter of 722 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: your life with your practice and everything. But do you 723 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: ever think like if your daughters were to come to 724 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: you and be like, you know, I think, oh my god, 725 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: I want to be on this show. I mean, where's 726 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: your head on that? 727 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 2: I feel like I would. 728 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 3: They're different people than me, but if they wanted to, 729 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 3: I think they could hold their own And I feel 730 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 3: like I would depending on this show. If the Bachelor's 731 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 3: still around, I don't know if it will be, but 732 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 3: maybe so I would, you know, I don't know. I 733 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 3: feel like I would be a little concerned because I 734 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 3: think I want the best in the world for my daughter. 735 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 3: So I'd be like, no, you don't need to like 736 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 3: compete over one guy. They need to compete over you. Right, 737 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 3: I'm already teaching my daughter things like that she already 738 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 3: a lot of boyfriends. And then the boyfriend like, I 739 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 3: don't know what she's thinking, he kissed her on the tea. 740 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 3: Then she's like, he cheated on me. I'm like, Earl, 741 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 3: you're in kindergarten. Not get that serious. Over all this 742 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 3: oh im doing. 743 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 2: I would let them do it. I mean, if they 744 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: were like, I'm gonna go on naked and afraid, I'd 745 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 2: be like, no, yeah, let's not do that. But I 746 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 2: think it's up, you know. 747 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 3: I feel like if they wanted to, they're like, so 748 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,959 Speaker 3: I think so highly of them, I would give advice 749 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 3: and guidance, but I wouldn't don't really stop them from 750 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 3: doing anything. 751 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: Well, I think you'd probably have some really great advice 752 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: to give too, because you, I mean, it seems like 753 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: you were cast as a villain because you rolled in 754 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: with a tiara, right, And it's like we had that. 755 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: We had that on Russ's when we are season with Trista. 756 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: When we were on the Bachelorette, a guy named Russ 757 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: showed up. He was the only one at this time 758 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: that showed up with a gift, right, He showed up 759 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: with a box from Tiffany's. So we just thought he's 760 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: a jackass, right, even though even though we just didn't 761 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: think of it, right. So when you think something different, 762 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, you could get kind of pegged in a 763 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: certain way. But it's like from your experiences you've you've 764 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: probably had a lot of the good, but you also 765 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: know how to navigate through the bad. 766 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that I just have changed a 767 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 3: lot as a person, and I truly am just more 768 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 3: down to earth now. 769 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 2: Honestly, I definitely think I. 770 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 3: Was a little bit like spoiled and entitled back then 771 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 3: to be honest, and then life has experiences that humble 772 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 3: you when things happen. 773 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: So I'm trying to raise my daughters to be not 774 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 2: that way, you know what I mean. 775 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 3: I want them to like realizing they realized how hard 776 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 3: I work, and so I just feel like I'm trying 777 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 3: to raise them differently and not complaining at my parents. 778 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 2: But it was a different time. I don't know, but. 779 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like it's part of it is like 780 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 3: I was acting a little like much, but at the 781 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 3: same time, part of it had to be true, you 782 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like it had to yeah, the 783 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 3: personality at the same time. 784 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, we didn't talk about you, but you 785 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: also ended up on that kind of intervention show that 786 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: you were cut off, right, I Mean, there was that show. 787 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 3: That was like really life changing to the point where 788 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 3: like they actually convinced us that if we didn't graduate 789 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 3: from this program that we would remain cut off. And 790 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 3: I think we wanted to believe it. But somehow we 791 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 3: really did believe it because they played messages from our 792 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,439 Speaker 3: parents and then we were like so concerned about graduating 793 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 3: that program, and I was so happy. 794 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 2: When I graduated. My mom came out. 795 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 3: I was so mad at my dad because I'm like, 796 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 3: you've seen it come to my graduation. 797 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 2: Show. 798 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 3: But it was I mean, I also made a lifelong 799 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 3: front on that. My friend Jess, she was on the 800 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 3: first flow deck trip with me. But that was like 801 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 3: a really meaningful experience. It was kind of like therapy. 802 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 3: I don't really even know what it was. We had 803 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 3: a life coach. It's pretty amazing, and I think that 804 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 3: it was good for us. We had to actually live 805 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 3: on a budget. There was one week my friends and 806 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 3: I were like do we want cheese its or box wine? 807 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 2: Like at the. 808 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 3: Grocery star and we were like can we afford both 809 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 3: cheeses and boxed wine? And then after that like box 810 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 3: wine is my thing? Like I'd show up to parties 811 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 3: thinking it was like really cool, so like bring box wine. 812 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's awesome. 813 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 3: But yeah, that show was really it was life changing. 814 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 3: I felt like, for sure, yeah. 815 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: So you did get something out of this whole experience definitely. Well, well, 816 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: I love checking in with you, and thank you so 817 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: much for coming on the show and for talking to 818 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: me today and letting us know where you're at. I mean, 819 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: it's kind of funny. I was thinking like, well, there's 820 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: no way that you know that Eric Rose was on 821 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: an OG style season, and I started looking at like, 822 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: oh my god, yes she was. 823 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 3: I know. 824 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 2: I was twenty three and I'm forty. Craziness, right, it 825 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 2: is crazy. 826 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: Well, you don't look forty, I mean, And I'm so 827 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: glad for all your success and for the beautiful kids 828 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: and your wonderful marriage, and keep up the good work. 829 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,280 Speaker 1: And thank you so much for joining us on Almost 830 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: Famous tho O g's I appreciate it. Thanks Bob, all right, 831 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 1: take care Erica. So there you go, guys, Erica Rose. 832 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: I love checking in with where she's at. She's a 833 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: great interview, very very very sharing and very telling. She's 834 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: had a lot of success since the show, So we 835 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: appreciate you guys listening in. And Trista, I miss you 836 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: at this one, but hopefully we can have you back 837 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 1: up and running full steam on the next one so 838 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: we can present together. All right, guys, thank you so 839 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: much for listening. Make sure you go check us out. 840 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: We will be back up with more episodes real soon. 841 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: We got some great stuff lined up. Just go to 842 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: the almost Underscore Famous podcast on Instagram and you can 843 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 1: check out everything we've been doing so far, and make 844 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: sure you order us up wherever podcasts can be ordered. 845 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: I don't normally do this part of the show. This 846 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: is where Trista comes in, so I hope I got 847 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: it right. But thank you guys so much for listening, 848 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: and we'll see you next time.