WEBVTT - Henry Winkler, Let it Percolate

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<v Speaker 1>How are you, Donald Faison.

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<v Speaker 2>You know I'm gonna be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we don't want you to lie. No one wants lies.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm living to dream. I've got a lot of hardware

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<v Speaker 3>in my house and I kind of like it.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the hardware. Oh, it's animation gear.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a shit ton of animation gear. Like, I

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, shout out to the people that like

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<v Speaker 3>A Like A Studios and the people at Stupid Buddy

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<v Speaker 3>Studios who have been very supportive of my animation and

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<v Speaker 3>the things that I want to do with animation, and

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<v Speaker 3>Rob Ronning and his team of puppeteered puppet makers and

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like that. Thank you to a whole bunch of people,

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<v Speaker 3>Brad Schiff, all your mentors, all my mentors, all my buddies.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a small community, but it's a very helping community.

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<v Speaker 3>And because of this, I now have a junior, a

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<v Speaker 3>compact junior motion control rig, and I have something that's

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<v Speaker 3>called a jetpack that you put on the back of

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<v Speaker 3>puppets that helps with subtle movements. And this is because

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<v Speaker 3>of the people at Leika and the people at Stupid

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<v Speaker 3>Buddy Studios.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, so you have a real like so the motion

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<v Speaker 1>control camera rig is going to allow you you to

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<v Speaker 1>move the camera and crane up and down as you're animating.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct.

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<v Speaker 3>What happens is I program it to do what I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to do before I film. It's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>blocking obviously, but then with animating, instead of having to

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<v Speaker 3>worry about with the camera and the focus and all

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<v Speaker 3>of that, because that's already pre set. Now I can

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<v Speaker 3>now just focus on the animating and.

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<v Speaker 2>The story I want to tell.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's amazing, dude. It's like you're a you're an

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<v Speaker 1>artist who got a very fancy new instrument. Let's say

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<v Speaker 1>you're a guitarist and you've got a very very fancy

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<v Speaker 1>new guitar.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, It reminds me of godday you got

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<v Speaker 3>your first movie camera, where you were like, I can

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<v Speaker 3>freaking make a movie on my own right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. And I took a lot of pride too,

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<v Speaker 1>and a good person. There were there were shots from

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<v Speaker 1>my Red Kimodo that were in the movie, yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was very pleased that it looked as good as

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<v Speaker 1>it did. My own camera were some of the shots

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<v Speaker 1>were shot from that. If you saw the movie, all

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<v Speaker 1>the shots of Florence swimming in the beginning, that was

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<v Speaker 1>all just my my red Kimodo, which is a beautiful camera.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are some great shots. To really think about it, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. It opens the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It opens the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Donald, that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to Europe to visit our friend Josh Raiden.

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<v Speaker 2>I like this. These are the things that I don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're not coming. Well, you you can't. You never

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<v Speaker 1>want to do stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got kids, Yeah, you do have kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Josh Reiden and I don't have kids. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to hang out together in Europe.

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<v Speaker 2>Where in Europe?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we're first I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Going where can where can the people find you?

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<v Speaker 1>Well this will come out long after I'm gone, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're starting in Stockholm, where Josh is a regular and

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to Stockholm a couple of times and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful city. And and then we're gonna work our

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<v Speaker 1>way through. We're going to go to Paris, and then

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<v Speaker 1>there's a dot dot dot about what we do next.

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<v Speaker 1>But we have some time to play.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to go to London.

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<v Speaker 1>I may I've been in London the most of all,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm trying to get outside of my box. I

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<v Speaker 1>got this new Do you see this G Shock watch

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<v Speaker 1>I got? Isn't that cool?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that from our shot shock spots around?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I wish they did. I I have some fancy watches,

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<v Speaker 1>and people told me don't wear fancy watches, uh traveling

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<v Speaker 1>because you'll get your arm cut off. So wait, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know if you have a fancy, nice watch, you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're sort of a target for being robbed obviously, So.

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<v Speaker 2>You think they're gonna rob you just because you're Zach Raft?

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, just because if I was wearing a nice

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<v Speaker 1>watch like a dummy walking around the wrong place at

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong time, I could be have my arm cut off.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to keep my hands.

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<v Speaker 2>Got it.

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<v Speaker 1>So my friend, who's a big watch guy, said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>just go get a cool G shock and let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you something. G Shock is not a sponsor of

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast, but they should because look how cool this

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<v Speaker 1>thing is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty nice. It's pretty nice g Shock watch. Goddamn,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Joel?

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<v Speaker 2>How are you living Man? I'm great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Took a breath to say it, and everything next hel

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<v Speaker 2>Joel living Man?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I followed Joel on Instagram. It looks like she's

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<v Speaker 1>living her best life from the Instagram fields things. But

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's true for everyone, right, we all post

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<v Speaker 1>like the best shot. Yeah, I I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't appreciate the person that's just like, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>post all my bullshit on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate the person that's like, I'm gonna fake it.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't wann't want to see negativity, You're gonna mute negativity.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to see you. Show me something made me.

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<v Speaker 2>Laugh, show me, make me happy, inspire me.

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<v Speaker 1>I sent Donald the funniest fucking meme, which I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>even gonna talk about this on the on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>It's too it's too x rated even for us. But

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<v Speaker 1>that ship is funny. Boy.

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<v Speaker 2>You send me a couple that have been like, oh ship.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about the one, the one, the one that

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<v Speaker 1>was related to kind of lingis Oh my god, h

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<v Speaker 1>listen Donald. I send Donald so many memes and he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't reply to motest. But once in a while I

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<v Speaker 1>got an L O L and I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>want a prize. You get a ha ha yeah, ha

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<v Speaker 1>ha ha ha and also if you put a bee

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<v Speaker 1>before it, baha ha ha ha, it's even harder. I

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<v Speaker 1>am sorry. They didn't pick up a Shoka ah Sosca.

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<v Speaker 2>Did they cancel Ahska too, didn't they?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 5>Acolyte canceled the Accolte.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we'll get a second season.

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<v Speaker 1>Get that right for me. I may have fucked that up.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's fine, don't worry about it. You could say

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<v Speaker 2>that ship. I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to make mistakes. But uh, they canceled

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<v Speaker 1>the Acolyte the Acolyte, Okay, but they didn't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna be honest with you now that it's gone,

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<v Speaker 3>Thank goodness, they canceled that ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess all. I guess all the mega fans

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<v Speaker 1>agreed with you, Donald because they they it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Not about it's listen. I'm gonna just say one thing.

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<v Speaker 3>They were stepping into waters that were just a little

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<v Speaker 3>too deep. They were stepping into the lore of Darth's

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<v Speaker 3>plagus the Wise. And if you're gonna do that, you

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<v Speaker 3>have to really really I don't want to hear the

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to hear about his apprentice. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to hear about the You.

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<v Speaker 5>Know you're a sexy ass apprentice. That's crazy, Donald eighty

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<v Speaker 5>five the reason.

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<v Speaker 6>Taking off his don't.

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<v Speaker 2>This listen? Listen?

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<v Speaker 3>There was one episode of that show that was worth

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<v Speaker 3>watching everything else. I'm sorry it was very slow paced.

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<v Speaker 3>You could have tied all of that into one episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Many issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, you know what, I've been watching that I

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<v Speaker 1>we had Tony hal On and I I went back

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<v Speaker 1>and I started watching the final season of VIEP because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think i'd seen it, And man, that is

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<v Speaker 1>the funniest show ever. Like that is the funniest ever.

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell you that. I can't think of a

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<v Speaker 1>half hour common you that has more laugh out loud

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<v Speaker 1>humor per minute than VEEP. It's just it's insane, the amount.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just all it is set up joke, set up joke,

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<v Speaker 1>joke joke joke, set up joke, I setup joke.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, my question, my question is this by season?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you saying this? Are you saying as a whole

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<v Speaker 2>in general? I'm saying because there are certain seasons of

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<v Speaker 2>the Office that are fucking lights out compared on Televison.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, yeah, they're both, they're both. We're talking about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about rarefied air. We're talking about some of

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<v Speaker 1>the funniest shows of our of our lives. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Veep is one of the funniest comedies I've seen in

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<v Speaker 1>my adult life. Half hour comedies. Yeah, the cast is

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<v Speaker 1>just unbelievable, and they get away with saying the most horrid,

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<v Speaker 1>crazy shit because everyone's a bad person. They're all such

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<v Speaker 1>horrible people that they have license to say the most inappropriate,

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<v Speaker 1>insane shit. It's brilliant writing. And Tony Hale is so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>My god, the one that says the least.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's like, he's like the only nice person and

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<v Speaker 1>he's the only angel. Well, I'm so thrilled we have

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<v Speaker 1>Henry Winkler on today. I mean, this is a big honor.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Donald and I Donald and I grew up

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<v Speaker 1>at the time when this, when you know, Happy Days

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<v Speaker 1>was a really important show. I mean, I can't speak

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<v Speaker 1>for you, Don, but in my life, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>really important show. And then I and then the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that he has had gone on to have so much

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<v Speaker 1>other success and other things makes me just so happy

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<v Speaker 1>for him. He's known as like literally being the nicest

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<v Speaker 1>guy in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, He's one of my mentors and he probably doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>even know he's one of my mentors. That's how amazing

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<v Speaker 3>Henry Winkler is, you know what I mean, like one

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<v Speaker 3>of my first Like listen, you know me, Zach.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how I take a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't take a lot of things serious things that

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<v Speaker 3>I should take really seriously.

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<v Speaker 2>I fucking kind of like, hey, you know, it is

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<v Speaker 2>what it is, right, It's just how I am.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and I did that, and we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about this with him, obviously, But I did that when

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<v Speaker 3>I was shooting and clueless. They were like, yo, Henry

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<v Speaker 3>Wikelers coming in to direct for the week. Everybody, this

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<v Speaker 3>is a great time. You're gonna have a It's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be amazing. And I went out that night and

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<v Speaker 3>partied at a club until like four o'clock in the morning,

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<v Speaker 3>and and missed my call time by like an hour

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<v Speaker 3>and walked to and and they called me. They woke

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<v Speaker 3>me up with a phone call and I run to

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I get my car, I drive to Paramount,

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<v Speaker 3>jump out of my car, put on all of this,

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<v Speaker 3>all my clothes, put my makeup on, you know you

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<v Speaker 3>and deep ship when the makeup artists ain't saying shit

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<v Speaker 3>to you, and the make it close just looking at.

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<v Speaker 2>You like mm hmm, you dumb ass motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right to be associated with your right.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you're in deep ship. So I get all

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<v Speaker 3>my shit on and I run the set and Henry

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<v Speaker 3>b lines right towards me, and I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he was directing the episode, directing the.

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<v Speaker 2>Episode, and I'm like, oh shit, here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, first of all, I get very combative

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<v Speaker 3>when when people try to fucking authority, you know, when

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<v Speaker 3>people are.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate authority. So you never noticed that, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>when anybody tries to fucking you know, puff up, I

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<v Speaker 2>puff back. That's just how I am.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So he comes up to me and I'm ready

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<v Speaker 3>to puff back and he hits me with the kind

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<v Speaker 3>of shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever, we're not gonna do this here. We're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to have an argument. You're late.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to get to work and we need to

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<v Speaker 3>catch up. So whatever it is that you've got going on,

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<v Speaker 3>let's put that behind us. Let's get on set, and

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<v Speaker 3>let's give it our best.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, And I'm like, oh shit, like he

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<v Speaker 2>just completely diffused me everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm ready to fucking fight the Fonds and this

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<v Speaker 3>motherfuckers like chill, chill.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's fucking right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we do the shit.

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<v Speaker 3>He not only is pitching me jokes, he not only

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<v Speaker 3>is giving me different rhythms on how to act, he's

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<v Speaker 3>also freaking talking to me like I'm like, I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>human being, like instead of just you know, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of these actors, a lot of directors see actors a

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<v Speaker 3>certain way.

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<v Speaker 1>He was talking and you were young. You know you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying he was talking to you like a peer, not

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<v Speaker 1>a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a kid, right, all right?

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<v Speaker 3>And so from that moment on, he and I have

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<v Speaker 3>had a relationship that I said that I look at

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<v Speaker 3>it as a mentorship.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>He might not see it that way, but he's done

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<v Speaker 2>so much for my life. We'll leave it at that.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Well, I'll tell you let's bring him in.

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<v Speaker 1>Henry Winklers here everybody time.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to kind of stamp.

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<v Speaker 6>Six seven stories? I'm not sure we made about a

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<v Speaker 6>bunch of talks and nurses. I said, he's a story.

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<v Speaker 5>So YadA ra here, yeada here, Oh there they.

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<v Speaker 1>Are, Oh my, oh my goodness, Henry Winkler. I'm it's

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know that we've ever met in person.

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<v Speaker 1>But my name is Zach and I'm a massive fan

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<v Speaker 1>of yours.

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<v Speaker 4>Zach. We met at a an affair for children's hi.

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<v Speaker 2>V Yes, at the Elizabeth Glazer p Ads.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's right, you were with You came with me

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<v Speaker 3>actually that year, and we've had Wilder with us and

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<v Speaker 3>I introduced you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yes, that's right. Well, we've just been talking because

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<v Speaker 1>we do a little pre thing before the show, Henry,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've both been talking about how much you and

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<v Speaker 1>your career have meant to us. Wow, and in lots

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<v Speaker 1>of different ways which we'll go into, but from the bottom,

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<v Speaker 1>from my most sincere heart, it's an honor to have

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<v Speaker 1>you on the show and to you Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>What a that's a great way to start.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's the truth. It is the truth you have.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you've known me.

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<v Speaker 3>I was twenty three years old when I was fresh

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<v Speaker 3>and knew in this industry and almost directed me and

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<v Speaker 3>and and you know, ever since I can remember, I've

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<v Speaker 3>being in Hollywood, being in Los Angeles, you have been

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<v Speaker 3>like the example of what it means to be a

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<v Speaker 3>good person and a nice person and a you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a smart person in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 4>So funny because I'm changing tomorrow. I've decided I've.

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<v Speaker 1>Had it, Henry, Henry, you do have a reputation. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to say, I just did another person's podcast today

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, I have the honor of interviewing Henry

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<v Speaker 1>Winkler later, and they said, you know, it's the rumors

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<v Speaker 1>about him being the nicest person in the world are true.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have you do have this reputation of being

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<v Speaker 1>one of the nicest people in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but you know what I have to say, I've

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<v Speaker 4>thought about that. I mean, I don't don't know that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm nice. What I think I am as grateful. I

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<v Speaker 4>think I just am so grateful that I get to

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<v Speaker 4>do what I do, that I get to have this family,

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<v Speaker 4>this life. That is amazing. That's what it is. And

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<v Speaker 4>I have gratitude.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have to work on that or I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>or it comes naturally to you.

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<v Speaker 4>I know it because it's there. I mean, I thought

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<v Speaker 4>about it and then I looked and I thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>there it is. And it's always been there. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I wrote a memoir.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, tell us the title of it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's called Being Henry. I kept it very simple, and

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<v Speaker 4>there's a picture of me so you can't miss it.

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<v Speaker 4>And as I have to say that in a few

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<v Speaker 4>months it comes out in paperback.

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<v Speaker 1>And everybody, and you mean the audiobook, by any chance,

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<v Speaker 1>I did.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I'm so dyslexic that most actors, what do they

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<v Speaker 4>take like a day and a half to read a

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<v Speaker 4>big talk a book. They allowed me not one hundred hours. Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>they gave me one hundred hours.

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<v Speaker 2>So you guys are really go through it and do

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<v Speaker 2>it in your voice and everything.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not to go back over it because I left

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<v Speaker 4>words out right?

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<v Speaker 2>That's fine? Is that common with most actors? There are

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of us out there with dyslexia, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>have dyslexia bad too.

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<v Speaker 4>Well. One out of six children on the earth have

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<v Speaker 4>some sort of learning challenge. You know. What is so

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<v Speaker 4>extraordinary to me is that the the man who is

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<v Speaker 4>running for vice president, mister Wallas, has a son who

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<v Speaker 4>is learning challenge, who is nonverbal, and people attacked him

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<v Speaker 4>for getting so emotional about his dad. Yeah, that's insane.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was upsetting. I mean yeah, I saw that too.

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<v Speaker 1>That was really horrible. When did you realize you were

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<v Speaker 1>a dyslexic? How did how did you figure it out?

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<v Speaker 4>My step son Jed, who came into my life when

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<v Speaker 4>he was four in the third grade. He could not

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<v Speaker 4>write a report on the Hoping Nation. We took him

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<v Speaker 4>to visit the Hope in Arizona because he was studying

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<v Speaker 4>Native Americans in school. And he's so verbal, he's so funny,

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<v Speaker 4>and I said, well, come on, you go back in

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<v Speaker 4>your room and do it. And we finally had him

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<v Speaker 4>tested and everything they said about him was true about me.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So how old were you thirty one?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow?

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<v Speaker 4>So until already one? I thought I was just stupid. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you were learning scripts, when you were auditioning

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<v Speaker 1>back in the seventies, was that extra hard for you

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<v Speaker 1>to memorize into into to learn reading.

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<v Speaker 4>Around the table? When you know, when we have our

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<v Speaker 4>first reading, the entire crew can hear what is going

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<v Speaker 4>to happen that week. I would stumble. I would mess

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<v Speaker 4>other actors up with their timing because I never gave

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<v Speaker 4>them their cue. Memorizing was easy. So what I couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>do reading wise, I could do in memorizing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's interesting. I worked with an actor recently who's dyslexic,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, oh, at the table reads, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to be off book I have to memorize it otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>I'll mess up all my jokes. And I and and

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<v Speaker 1>I get so nervous. So he was memorizing it for

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<v Speaker 1>the table read, so he was battling that too.

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<v Speaker 4>I had to.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to. I actually had to tell on the

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<v Speaker 2>last project I worked on.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to tell them Listen, I have a really

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<v Speaker 3>hard time putting words together when I read them. Uh So,

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<v Speaker 3>table reads, you know, either get me the script early

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<v Speaker 3>or or I'm gonna I'm gonna mess it up a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna mess up a lot. You know, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>have to go back. And you know, for the most

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<v Speaker 3>part they did. But when it was right away, oof,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's it's it's really it would be really hard.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's embarrassing, but it's also it's like, well, shit,

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<v Speaker 3>it's my it's my thing. And you know, some days,

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<v Speaker 3>I have days like everybody else. Some days you have

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<v Speaker 3>days where it works and you're and you're able to

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<v Speaker 3>focus on the on it. But then there's days where

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, oh, I'm killing everybody right now and they

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<v Speaker 3>think I'm illiterate, and really it's something.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, But then all of a sudden your performance speaks

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<v Speaker 4>for itself, right right, you know that you I think

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<v Speaker 4>that and you didn't ask me, but I will just

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<v Speaker 4>mention it. I think you should just let that go

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<v Speaker 4>because it just doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>We're you know it.

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<v Speaker 4>People have got different problems, and you have overcome yours

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<v Speaker 4>in that you are an improvosure. You've got great energy

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<v Speaker 4>on the screen, the two of you together, even when

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<v Speaker 4>it's not necessarily an entertainment but a commercial. You guys

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<v Speaker 4>are connected at the hip. It's funny, it's watchable over

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<v Speaker 4>and over and over again. That comes from spirit, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's what you have to be grateful for.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, thank you for saying it's true.

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<v Speaker 3>It's true, but it means it means a lot coming

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<v Speaker 3>from I almost changed my plan.

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<v Speaker 2>You are I wish you would have.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll still take you. We can get your special deal.

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<v Speaker 2>We listen, we can work on this.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen. Most people come up to Donald and I and

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<v Speaker 1>ask us details about the about the team of the plans,

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<v Speaker 1>and we don't know what that. We don't know. We

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<v Speaker 1>just say we're in the commercials you know, for you,

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<v Speaker 1>but for you, Henry, we'll go figure out what best plan,

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<v Speaker 1>what we can do.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. I did a commercial last year for I

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<v Speaker 4>Care because my father in law had uh uh geographic atrophy,

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<v Speaker 4>and so I did this just saying, go to the

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<v Speaker 4>go to the doctor and check your eyes. And Dick

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<v Speaker 4>Van Dyke, out of the glue, called me up. He said,

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<v Speaker 4>I have this. Do you know any more than I do?

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<v Speaker 4>I said, oh my god, I wish I did.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Donald, I've had this thing. I walk around New

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<v Speaker 1>York City and people, you know, most people are like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if they say something you know, they say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whenever they compliment you for a thing they like.

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<v Speaker 1>But occasionally people be like, thhose commercials are so funny

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<v Speaker 1>with you and Donald and I go, oh, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>They go, Now tell me, like the monthly is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Really?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the monthly is.

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly don't know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Plan is best for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's take a break.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back after these fine words, Henry, I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to tell you because you're talking about your book

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<v Speaker 1>and your audiobook, which you know, with people like you

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<v Speaker 1>who are such wonderful performers and have such distinct voices,

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<v Speaker 1>it made me think of one of the best audiobooks

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<v Speaker 1>I ever heard of. My Whole life, which is Gary

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<v Speaker 1>Marshall's book My Happy Days in Hollywood, which if you

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<v Speaker 1>love entertainment and you gotta don't read this book, listen

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Because Gary had such for those of you

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<v Speaker 1>who don't know what he was, creator of so many

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<v Speaker 1>beloved TV shows, including Happy Days, and a director with

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<v Speaker 1>an enormous career including Pretty Women and many others. But

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<v Speaker 1>Gary had such a charactery voice and him telling his

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<v Speaker 1>stories and his voice is wonderful and I and I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to just segue into that in the Happy

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<v Speaker 1>Days via that, because I'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you something. I could not wear leather in

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<v Speaker 4>the beginning. I had to wear cloth because ABC thought

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<v Speaker 4>for sure I was going to be associated with crime.

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<v Speaker 3>In the beginning, you look like you worked at a

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<v Speaker 3>like at a mechanic shop and everything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You always had the was it blue, But the.

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<v Speaker 4>Jacket was a McGregor golf jacket, and it was very

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<v Speaker 4>hard to be cool in cloth. So Gary went to

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<v Speaker 4>ABC and he said, you know, he could be height.

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<v Speaker 4>If he's riding his bike, he should fall over, he

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<v Speaker 4>could get a scratch. And so ABC said, when he's

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<v Speaker 4>with his bike, he can wearther and then there was

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<v Speaker 4>no cell phone at that time. He went down to

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<v Speaker 4>the lobby of ABC, he said, he called the writer's room.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, okay, never write another scene without Phonsie's bike again.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how the leather got in there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing. And I'm telling you, if you listened to

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<v Speaker 1>this book, there are so many stories like that from

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<v Speaker 1>all these shows. And he had he had, he had

0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 1>happy Days going on on one set, and he had

0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:36.000
<v Speaker 1>more co and Mindy going on another stage. He had,

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:40.199
<v Speaker 1>he had h Leverne Shirley, and he's running between all

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:42.879
<v Speaker 1>of them, running all of these massive hits. And he

0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:46.440
<v Speaker 1>and his anecdotes are are so telling you.

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<v Speaker 4>When when, uh, when Robin came to audition. Now it's Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 4>We start Monday morning at ten o'clock on the sound stage.

0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 4>That is, at nine o'clock we read ten o'clock. We're

0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:05.200
<v Speaker 4>on the sound stage. Nobody wanted to play this alien

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 4>from out of Space Wednesday. Now we're shooting on Friday.

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 4>Wednesday comes finally a young, very shy, very quiet man

0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:25.280
<v Speaker 4>comes with the casting director and you and then this

0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:30.679
<v Speaker 4>human being picked up the script. When he opened his mouth,

0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:37.160
<v Speaker 4>it was like a volcano went off on stage nineteen

0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:41.200
<v Speaker 4>at Paramount, and I knew, get out of his way,

0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:46.240
<v Speaker 4>ye know my lines, and don't try to stand toe

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 4>to toe with this genius that is now standing in

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 4>front of me. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And was that Robin Williams first thing? Was that his

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 1>first time?

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:56.240
<v Speaker 2>I think it was.

0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 4>Maybe he made appearances before that.

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Joell can look at us, but I think it.

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<v Speaker 4>Might have been his first. He did comedy clubs.

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:08.879
<v Speaker 1>Right now, first TV appearance probably yeah, But oh my lord.

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 1>We always like to ask our guests, how did you

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 1>get the part?

0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:13.679
<v Speaker 2>What was your explorer?

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:16.160
<v Speaker 3>How did you get how did you get into the industry?

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 3>And then how did you get the part the industry?

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<v Speaker 4>The first thing I did was I was in a

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 4>repertory company at my drama school in New Haven, Yale

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:31.639
<v Speaker 4>Repertory Theater. And then I would do a play at

0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 4>night with the company, and you would rehearse another play

0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:38.800
<v Speaker 4>during the day. I made one hundred and seventy five

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:42.959
<v Speaker 4>dollars a week. I was in heaven. Then I went

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 4>to New York. I tried out for commercials and then

0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 4>I made enough money. I had just made Lords of

0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:55.480
<v Speaker 4>Flatbush with sly stallone. I made two thousand dollars for

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 4>twelve months work, but I had enough money for a

0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 4>ticket to California for one month. In that month, the

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:09.920
<v Speaker 4>first thing I got was the Mary Tyler Moore show,

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 4>which was the Friends of that time. I got a scene.

0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:20.399
<v Speaker 4>I had eight lines. And then the next week, my

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 4>second week, I auditioned at Paramount. The room of actors

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 4>waiting had all been on television. I had seen them

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 4>all and me, Oh my goodness, it was my turn.

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 4>I walked in and something went off in my brain

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:49.200
<v Speaker 4>and I changed my voice and I did the eight

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 4>lines through the script up in the air, saunted out

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 4>of the room. And when my money ran out, when

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:59.359
<v Speaker 4>I had to fly back to New York, the producers

0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 4>called and said, would you like to play this part?

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god? And I said, okay, what did you

0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 1>do to your voice? Because what was cool? You had

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:11.440
<v Speaker 1>to you had to figure out, like what's cool or

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 1>like universally.

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:12.960
<v Speaker 2>I didn't.

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 4>I didn't figure anything out. I went from being henry

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:23.639
<v Speaker 4>nervous a short jew two, hey, look don't look at

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 4>me like that, and all of a sudden, and then

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:32.919
<v Speaker 4>I threw the script up in the air. I walked

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:37.360
<v Speaker 4>out of that room, and Gary Marshall said, I think

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 4>I saw something in this young man, and he gave.

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Me the part I read that you weren't at all

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 1>with Gary pictured for the part.

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 4>No, they wanted a tall Italian. They got a very

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 4>short jew from New York. And people, you know, I'm

0:28:57.040 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 4>even to this day when I try all around the country,

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 4>around the world, people say to me, oh my god,

0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 4>I thought you were much taller.

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, did they shoot you in such a way that,

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 1>you know.

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 3>Just the energy, the energy was that's the most powerful,

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 3>and like we have jokes about it or at at work,

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:23.000
<v Speaker 3>Zach and I, like we had a stand in uh

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 3>named Deontay and we called him Black Phonzie because he

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 3>just had the gift to gab with the ladies and

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 3>he knew how to work the work, the crew and

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 3>he knew all of it.

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:34.959
<v Speaker 2>He knew everything it was like. And we called him

0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Black Phronsie because he was he just was so cool.

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 6>You know what I mean.

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Ladies loved them, all the ladies, well.

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 2>The ladies loved him. But he also he had to

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 2>end with every department. He was my standing.

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 3>He had to end with every department, so every department

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 3>knew him. And he knew everyone, and he was just

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 3>he was just a cool guy on set, you know

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 3>what I mean.

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 4>It was just great.

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, I make the joke I have a friend

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 1>who's h who is very promiscuous, and I say, he's

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>got to move cities now, because I remember there being

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 1>an episode where Phronsie had been with every woman in

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Milwaukee and he had to move, didn't he have to?

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I just remember so joke about that. So I always

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 1>say that my friend, like, he's going to change cities

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 1>because he's like Phonsie, he's already dated every girl in

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the city. Henry, this show was enormous. I mean, this

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 1>show wasn't just on the air nowadays. Obviously it goes

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>without saying there's so much more content. But what was

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 1>life like for you when you were on this show.

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 1>I read a Beatle came up to you.

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 4>Beatles came I met every Beatle except for George. I

0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 4>was walking on the street in New York City with

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 4>my wife and coming the other direction was Paul McCartney,

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 4>and he went the phones and we stood talking. A

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 4>woman came out of a store gave us each a rose.

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 4>Another woman came up and said, hey, do you mind

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 4>if I just stand here, he said, we're in the

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:22.600
<v Speaker 4>middle of a conversation. No. Then he gave me a

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:28.840
<v Speaker 4>phone number and he said, let's get in touch, and I,

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 4>like an asshole, call that number every ten minutes for

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 4>twenty four hours as what I a as you should

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 4>never answered. So if he is listening, I would just

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 4>like to say, I'm a really good guy. Could you

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 4>call me back because i'd I'd love to have lunch.

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 1>That's so funny. Well, I just mean it must have

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 1>been such your crazy existence, because you know the level

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 1>of success that not only the show had, but your character.

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they wanted to change the name of the

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:07.080
<v Speaker 1>show to Fonsi's Happy Days. You broke out on such

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 1>a level it must have been.

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 4>But I asked them, I said, look, do me a favor.

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 4>If I have any juice whatsoever, Please do not do

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:21.480
<v Speaker 4>that because it would be such a slap in the

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 4>face for everybody else. I was part of an ensemble,

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 4>the Fawns. Without that family, without those boys, I don't

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 4>know where he would be. And it is Happy Days.

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 4>If it's not broken, don't fix.

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 1>It, don't fix Was that hard for Ron?

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Howard?

0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you think like has he ever shared with you that.

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Obviously he broke out to but I wonder what was

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 1>that difficult for him.

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 4>I think that he was signed on as the star

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 4>of the show and we had a drive home in

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 4>his VW Origional Little Bug. We drove home from set.

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 4>We were doing one of those two part openings, and

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 4>I said, okay, Ron, we've got to talk about this,

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 4>and he said, look, it hurt my feelings, but you

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:19.440
<v Speaker 4>did not do anything. You didn't have You don't have

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 4>an attitude. It's good for the show. You didn't try to,

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 4>you know, to outshine anybody. Yeah, so you know it's

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:34.120
<v Speaker 4>the ying and the yang of that. But that was

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 4>the only time we ever talked about it. And he

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 4>is still my like my brother.

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Because right after that, you got he directed a movie,

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:45.720
<v Speaker 3>his first directorial debut.

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 2>He made you the star of the movie.

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 4>He came to me and he said, look, Warner Brothers

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 4>will fund the movie. They're going to give me six

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 4>million dollars. But they asked, would you be in the

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 4>movie and you can play either role. And I thought, well,

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 4>I was Flambuoyant for ten years. I'm going to play

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:10.360
<v Speaker 4>Richie and so I chose the character of Chuck, and

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:14.399
<v Speaker 4>he was incredibly He was twenty five.

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 2>Were you at the time? He was, No, I was.

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:21.800
<v Speaker 4>I was. He was eighteen when I met him, and

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:25.920
<v Speaker 4>I was twenty seven, okay, so nineteen twenty twenty one,

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:28.920
<v Speaker 4>twenty two, twenty three, twenty four, thirty three. I was

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 4>about ten years older than he was, and he was

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 4>twenty five years old. And he said, are they going

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 4>to listen to me? The crew has been doing this

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 4>longer than I've been alive. I said, Ron, I promise you.

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:51.560
<v Speaker 4>And he has such power as a person that when

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:54.400
<v Speaker 4>he would stop and say, let me think about that,

0:34:55.360 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 4>everybody waited for Ron to tell us what to do.

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, I read for him when I was a

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:07.319
<v Speaker 1>kid for Parenthood. I read for the part that went

0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:08.760
<v Speaker 1>to Joaquin Phoenix.

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:09.759
<v Speaker 4>Woh wow.

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:12.680
<v Speaker 1>And I have this great memory you just reminded me

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:15.320
<v Speaker 1>of And this never happened ever in another audition, he

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 1>was so sensitive. I was, I must have been thirteen fourteen,

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:22.320
<v Speaker 1>and I think he knew that having anybody else in

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 1>the room would be intimidating. And I didn't know who

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 1>he was, or at least the young me didn't put

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 1>it all together. Right, you know, he was the guy

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:32.960
<v Speaker 1>from Happy Days whatever. But the point was that he

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't have anyone else in the room, and he and

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I sat next to each other and we just read

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 1>the scene, just me and him. There was nobody else

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 1>in the room. And I always had such a like

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:44.440
<v Speaker 1>a lovely memory of that going. What a sensitive man

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 1>to take all the intimidation out for the young kid.

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:52.440
<v Speaker 4>And it was very wise. He was, even at eighteen

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:57.840
<v Speaker 4>when I first met him, just an incredibly thoughtful, wise

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:00.800
<v Speaker 4>human being. I was.

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 3>I was, you know, you have goals in life and

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 3>everything like that. And one of my goals was to

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 3>work with Ron Howard in some way, right, and I

0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:16.359
<v Speaker 3>think Felicity. When I got Felicity, that was Imagine Entertainment. Yes,

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 3>that's his company, right, yes, yes, And I remember when

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 3>I saw that.

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:25.320
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I did it. I did it?

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:25.919
<v Speaker 4>Yes.

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. My name is Ron Howard's name is right next

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 2>to each other. These are goals in life, you know

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 2>what I mean.

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:37.719
<v Speaker 4>My goal is to get back on Broadway.

0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh you got you should be you can make that

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 1>dream and.

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 4>Not so easy, not so easy. I did three plays.

0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 4>The first one closed in one night, the second one

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:57.880
<v Speaker 4>ran for nine months. The third one closed in seven nights,

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 4>So now I need to do it one more time

0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:02.799
<v Speaker 4>to make that third one.

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, I hear you. I've done a bunch of

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:10.479
<v Speaker 1>I've not only on one Broadway show, but off Broadway ones.

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:14.800
<v Speaker 1>And the Broadway thing is so tough because you know,

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 1>the critics can literally shut it down. Really when people do,

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 1>when people go, how does what is Henry Mina closed

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:24.240
<v Speaker 1>in one night? What happens is if you get trashed

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:26.359
<v Speaker 1>by the critics in New York, they just people aren't

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna buy tickets, so it's just closes. The New York

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:30.319
<v Speaker 1>Times whatever the New York Times says.

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:31.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that in London.

0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:34.520
<v Speaker 1>In London, Henry, I don't if you've ever had that experience,

0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:37.920
<v Speaker 1>But there's a little bit more. It's a fun experience

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 1>that uh to do a show there. And also it's

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:42.399
<v Speaker 1>a little more spread out in terms of not one

0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:44.839
<v Speaker 1>paper controlling your entire fate.

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Right. In England, I did what is called pantomime

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 4>at Christmas. You put on this play with music and

0:37:56.440 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 4>I did Peter Pan. I played Captain Hook. Yeah, and

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:04.160
<v Speaker 4>I did it in seven cities and it's been going

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:10.760
<v Speaker 4>since seventeen fifty six. Let's say, and this particular form,

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:16.360
<v Speaker 4>and the audience knows to yell at you and to

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 4>yell at Peter and go he's behind you. And I

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:23.239
<v Speaker 4>would walk down to the lip of the stage and

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:26.480
<v Speaker 4>I would say, if you warn him one more time,

0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm coming to your house and taking all your presents.

0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I would love to see you on stage, Henry.

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 2>So I hope you do that.

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>We can tell us about segueing into directing, because that's

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 1>what you did, and it's something I can relate to

0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 1>myself that I've been doing a lot of. And did

0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:53.960
<v Speaker 1>you do you feel that you've been educated on doing

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously, obviously sitcom directing is a unique style,

0:38:57.719 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 1>but was that an education for you?

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 4>It was? And not only that. Everything I learned about

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:06.760
<v Speaker 4>being a professional on the set, in front or behind

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 4>the camera, I learned from Gary Marshall and from Jerry

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:16.440
<v Speaker 4>rest Is Soul Paris. Jerry Paris directed I don't know

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 4>two hundred and forty episodes of Happy Days. He was unbelievable.

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:27.239
<v Speaker 4>He was also the dentist on The Dick Van Dyke Show.

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 4>He was the next door neighbor, brilliant man. So this

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 4>is the way I see my directing career years ago.

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:42.840
<v Speaker 4>You would get a lawnmower and you would pull it

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 4>in order to start it. You would pull the cord

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 4>and it would just about turnover who I was that lawnmower.

0:39:55.440 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 4>My directing career never really turned over. I directed commercials.

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:04.399
<v Speaker 4>I directed half an hour.

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Donald told a story about you directing him and clueless,

0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:12.040
<v Speaker 1>and you were kind to him even though he was

0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:12.799
<v Speaker 1>tardy one day.

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:15.800
<v Speaker 2>I was so tardy. It was the first day you

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 2>were there and I was so tardy.

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:20.839
<v Speaker 4>That was the beginning of my directing. Yeah.

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:22.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well you put me in my first of all,

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:25.319
<v Speaker 3>you put me in my place one. But you did

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:29.480
<v Speaker 3>it in such a good way that you know to

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:33.479
<v Speaker 3>this day, you know. I mean, dude, you've just done

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:35.320
<v Speaker 3>like there have been a lot of things for me

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:37.080
<v Speaker 3>that you've done when I didn't have friends.

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:39.400
<v Speaker 2>You introduced me to your daughter, you know what I mean. Like,

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:42.799
<v Speaker 2>there's so many things that's just great about you. Henry.

0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:46.839
<v Speaker 3>You are an amazing person, and I think you're an

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 3>amazing director also, And I.

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 4>You're the only one.

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 6>No, I'm not, No, I'm not.

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:55.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure every actor that you've ever worked with is

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 3>like you. No, he's a fucking amazing director. Uh listen,

0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:01.239
<v Speaker 3>I hope you get another the chance to direct as

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 3>well too. Then if that's the case, because you listen, man,

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 3>nobody to this day, nobody has been.

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Able to get through them to me the way you've

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 2>been able to get through to me.

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 3>And and it was on a show that you know

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:18.720
<v Speaker 3>was it was a kids show, but it was an

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 3>adult show. But you came in and you gave it

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:24.319
<v Speaker 3>such life. And you're directing Tim Conway at the same time,

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 3>as as as as all I did.

0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 4>With Tim Conway was point the camera in the right direction.

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:34.560
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know when you watch on either YouTube

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 4>or TikTok when they come up with those Harvey Korman Ye,

0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:45.880
<v Speaker 4>Tim Conway bits. I wish that I had half that

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:51.759
<v Speaker 4>imagination when Tim Conway was the dentist. Yes, and he

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 4>kept on injecting himself from Milva game.

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:55.279
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:58.400
<v Speaker 1>And you haven't seen this, audience. You have to just

0:41:58.920 --> 0:42:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Tim Conway. You have to see the sketch from the

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 1>cawber Neet Show.

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:04.600
<v Speaker 4>But it really is no joke. It is one of

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:07.040
<v Speaker 4>the funniest things ever done anywhere.

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Now I have to ask him, this is a bit

0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:13.320
<v Speaker 1>of a segue off Donald mentioning your children. I know

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 1>both of your children too, and they love you so much.

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:22.440
<v Speaker 1>What is your secret to parenthooding? I mean, I've spoken,

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I know Max a bit, and he just speaks about

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:29.240
<v Speaker 1>you so lovingly. And you have any tips for parents

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:30.799
<v Speaker 1>out there? How do you get your kids to love

0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:31.680
<v Speaker 1>you as much as you do?

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 4>Here is my overall tip. A heard child is a

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:47.560
<v Speaker 4>powerful child. I grew up with two Germans who did

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:51.719
<v Speaker 4>not see me. They didn't know why I wanted to

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:54.360
<v Speaker 4>do what I do. They didn't care about what I

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 4>wanted to do. I did not have an opinion, and

0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:00.840
<v Speaker 4>I swore to my wife that I would be a

0:43:00.920 --> 0:43:06.680
<v Speaker 4>different parent. And when when your child comes three, they're

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 4>three years old, four years old, you're late, you can't

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:12.520
<v Speaker 4>find your keys, you're going to a meeting. You go,

0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 4>oh my god, I got dad, I Dad, and you

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 4>just stand there. I like green. Okay, I'm so glad

0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:27.440
<v Speaker 4>you said that, because we're going to discuss every shade

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 4>of green when I come back. I'm telling you it

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:36.719
<v Speaker 4>took thirty seconds, forty five seconds. You know later you're

0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:41.640
<v Speaker 4>not more on time, and that child goes We're gonna

0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:46.320
<v Speaker 4>we're gonna talk about green. I'm telling you that is

0:43:46.440 --> 0:43:54.799
<v Speaker 4>the great umbrella. And then you know, see, if your

0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:58.120
<v Speaker 4>child has a problem, you don't know what it is,

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 4>you don't know the name, but you know there's something

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:10.719
<v Speaker 4>going on, respect the problem and look for making that

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:16.240
<v Speaker 4>child more comfortable. Chuse the child knows they've got a problem.

0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:21.200
<v Speaker 1>M Well, that's really that's really good advice. It's funny.

0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I know Max from your son because we both were

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:28.560
<v Speaker 1>working out of the same office once and and he

0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:30.799
<v Speaker 1>was just the way he you know, I told him

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:32.360
<v Speaker 1>how much I was a fan of yours and the

0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 1>way he beams when he talks about you, and he's

0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:39.360
<v Speaker 1>a wonderful filmmaker himself, and I just it was just

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:41.800
<v Speaker 1>so sweet that and I thought to myself, what I

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:44.640
<v Speaker 1>wanted to just bring it up to you, because you know,

0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:47.279
<v Speaker 1>so many people have issues with their parents, and they

0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:49.560
<v Speaker 1>may love their parents, but their parents drive them crazy.

0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:51.960
<v Speaker 1>And I was just it was just notable to me

0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 1>how how how enamored and in love and crazy about

0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:55.600
<v Speaker 1>you he was.

0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:59.839
<v Speaker 4>Well, I've got I've got three incredible children. My step

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:05.279
<v Speaker 4>son came into my life when he was four, Zoe

0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:09.440
<v Speaker 4>and Max came along after that. Zoe just had an

0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:13.759
<v Speaker 4>event here in our front lawn for her charity called

0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:17.440
<v Speaker 4>this Is About Humanity. She was thirty seven sitting on

0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 4>her couch watching children being separated from their parents. Said,

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:26.759
<v Speaker 4>oh my goodness, those could be my children. With two

0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 4>of the ladies started this organization. They've raised over two

0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:36.160
<v Speaker 4>million dollars with no overhead. Max said to me at

0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:39.640
<v Speaker 4>ten and sos Stacey, I'm going to be a director.

0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:42.840
<v Speaker 4>I took him to see Bottle Rocket by Wes Anderson.

0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 4>I said, I'm going to do that. He just hired

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:54.920
<v Speaker 4>me this past January. He's doing the American Horror Stories

0:45:56.320 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 4>and on the set he was the executive producer direct.

0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:03.840
<v Speaker 4>On the set, I asked for a cup of coffee

0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:07.680
<v Speaker 4>and the crew brought me a paper cup of coffee

0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:14.759
<v Speaker 4>and on it wrote Daddy Winkler, Oh my heart out of.

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:20.360
<v Speaker 1>My body kewlling Kwelling as we said, not so sweet.

0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:22.239
<v Speaker 1>And he's really doing well. He's got a lot of

0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:25.440
<v Speaker 1>great projects and I'm so happy for him.

0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:28.759
<v Speaker 4>Let me just say he directed. I haven't met him,

0:46:29.120 --> 0:46:34.520
<v Speaker 4>but he directed hoavi Ar bard Dem and then Hoaviar

0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 4>bard Dem just invited he and his wife to dinner.

0:46:38.080 --> 0:46:42.920
<v Speaker 4>I said, could I drive? Could I just the limo driver?

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:45.719
<v Speaker 4>I'll wear a hat and everything.

0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:47.640
<v Speaker 1>That's funny.

0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:48.879
<v Speaker 2>Let's take a break.

0:46:49.000 --> 0:46:58.560
<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back after these fine words. All right,

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:00.279
<v Speaker 1>because we have you for a limited time, we're going

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:05.040
<v Speaker 1>to jump to arrested development. Yes I want to Yeah,

0:47:05.280 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 1>you go ahead.

0:47:06.920 --> 0:47:12.600
<v Speaker 2>You can say what you want to do you okay,

0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:14.080
<v Speaker 2>all right, but just let me just say one thing.

0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:20.080
<v Speaker 3>In between arrested development and the directing and uh, what

0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:23.839
<v Speaker 3>were you were raising family? You were you were being

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:27.360
<v Speaker 3>a dad at home for that time. What made you

0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:29.960
<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden say you know what? Because when

0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:32.080
<v Speaker 3>we had you on Clueless, you didn't want to do

0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:33.920
<v Speaker 3>You didn't want to act on the show at all.

0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:35.320
<v Speaker 2>You were like no, no, no.

0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:37.600
<v Speaker 3>Even though they convinced you towards the end, like you're

0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:40.279
<v Speaker 3>in like a in the credits, you didn't want to

0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:41.120
<v Speaker 3>act in the show.

0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:43.359
<v Speaker 2>What convinced you to get back into acting again?

0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:47.000
<v Speaker 4>Somebody asked, really, I'm that Sandler.

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:48.279
<v Speaker 1>You did a bunch of Sandler movies.

0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:51.279
<v Speaker 4>I did a Sandler movie. It was hard for me

0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:54.960
<v Speaker 4>to get an acting job. That's how I started writing

0:47:56.120 --> 0:48:00.879
<v Speaker 4>children's books. We just wrote our fortieth Oh my god,

0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:06.000
<v Speaker 4>children's books that fade out in October Detectives Duck of

0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:06.879
<v Speaker 4>volume two.

0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:09.239
<v Speaker 1>You write those?

0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:11.160
<v Speaker 2>You write it with Lynn.

0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:14.200
<v Speaker 4>Oliver, with my partner Lynn. We've written every book together

0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:21.080
<v Speaker 4>and it's amazing. I am. I thought I was stupid.

0:48:21.719 --> 0:48:26.280
<v Speaker 4>I can't read, And with Lynn I have written forty

0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:28.040
<v Speaker 4>children's Now, Wow.

0:48:28.040 --> 0:48:30.279
<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. That is amazing.

0:48:31.040 --> 0:48:34.800
<v Speaker 1>No, so oh gosh, I can interview you forever. But

0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:36.719
<v Speaker 1>my question is because Donald and I have faced this.

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:39.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, we were on a popular show. Yeah, we're

0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:41.320
<v Speaker 1>neither one of us on the level of being Phonsie,

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:43.920
<v Speaker 1>but but we definitely got known for being a type

0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:46.919
<v Speaker 1>you bet, which is don't get me wrong. The first

0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:48.960
<v Speaker 1>thought is, of course, we are so lucky, we are

0:48:49.000 --> 0:48:51.600
<v Speaker 1>so grateful, but you it is hard to I'm still

0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 1>working on branching. I'm doing a tiny yarc on this

0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:56.600
<v Speaker 1>show called Bad Monkey, where I'm actually doing something one

0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:59.719
<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighty degrees from JD and people are based

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:04.719
<v Speaker 1>on Yeah, and it's so refreshing to get that opportunity.

0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:08.280
<v Speaker 1>And so I know I can imagine what you felt

0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:10.960
<v Speaker 1>because you were on lunchboxes. I mean, you were so

0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:13.360
<v Speaker 1>known as that guy do you.

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:18.480
<v Speaker 4>Know Actually, when I had an office at Paramount, and

0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:24.960
<v Speaker 4>I sat in my office at my desk, and I

0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:30.960
<v Speaker 4>literally had psychic pain because I had no plan. B.

0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:33.160
<v Speaker 2>I had just.

0:49:33.480 --> 0:49:40.000
<v Speaker 4>Lived my imagination. Yeah, and now I can't get hired.

0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:45.160
<v Speaker 4>I had no idea what to do. And I realized

0:49:45.239 --> 0:49:48.360
<v Speaker 4>it is a great life lesson when you don't know

0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:53.359
<v Speaker 4>what to do. Just sit for a minute and let

0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:57.040
<v Speaker 4>it percolate, and all of a sudden it will come.

0:49:57.440 --> 0:50:01.120
<v Speaker 4>My lawyer, Skip Brittenham the Third said I know what

0:50:01.200 --> 0:50:03.080
<v Speaker 4>you're going to do. You're going to produce. I said,

0:50:03.120 --> 0:50:03.880
<v Speaker 4>I can't produce.

0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:04.760
<v Speaker 2>I know nothing.

0:50:05.160 --> 0:50:10.040
<v Speaker 4>He said, you'll learn. And the first show that I

0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:13.720
<v Speaker 4>heard all these ideas, I said, oh I like that idea.

0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:16.279
<v Speaker 4>I want to see that idea. The first show I

0:50:16.440 --> 0:50:20.000
<v Speaker 4>ever produced with a man named John Rich who's no

0:50:20.120 --> 0:50:22.600
<v Speaker 4>longer with us, was mcgiver.

0:50:23.480 --> 0:50:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I forgot you produced mcguiver. Wow. Yeah,

0:50:28.080 --> 0:50:29.040
<v Speaker 1>that was a big hit.

0:50:29.560 --> 0:50:30.520
<v Speaker 4>It was a huge hit.

0:50:30.800 --> 0:50:34.279
<v Speaker 2>It was such it's such a big hit that they

0:50:34.400 --> 0:50:34.920
<v Speaker 2>remade it.

0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:37.600
<v Speaker 1>He made it as a comedy, but.

0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:42.560
<v Speaker 3>No, they remade mcgiver as a television show too. Television show.

0:50:44.520 --> 0:50:47.120
<v Speaker 2>On Saturnight Live with macgoover right right.

0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm thinking you're right, I'm thinking mcgoober. But wow, wait,

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:55.440
<v Speaker 1>sowet Sorry, Henry. The first thing you produced was mcgiver.

0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:59.600
<v Speaker 4>Yes, that was the first show. The second show was

0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:03.640
<v Speaker 4>the next hit that I was able to produce with

0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:10.680
<v Speaker 4>Anne Daniel was Sightings because I love the paranormal. I

0:51:10.840 --> 0:51:14.400
<v Speaker 4>just love that whole. I really think there's got to

0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:19.560
<v Speaker 4>be a whole other level that we're not privy to. Yeah,

0:51:20.280 --> 0:51:24.440
<v Speaker 4>but I agree with you, yeah, yeah, absolutely, But.

0:51:24.560 --> 0:51:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Do you say okay? So God, I'm sorry I cut you.

0:51:26.840 --> 0:51:31.680
<v Speaker 4>No, no, no. The second show was an amazingly funny

0:51:31.760 --> 0:51:37.120
<v Speaker 4>half hour comedy called Mister Sunshine, starring Jeff Tambour as

0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:44.759
<v Speaker 4>a blind English professor, and it was I mean, I

0:51:44.840 --> 0:51:48.359
<v Speaker 4>cannot even begin to tell you the writers that we got.

0:51:49.800 --> 0:51:51.760
<v Speaker 4>But that only lasted thirteen.

0:51:51.480 --> 0:51:54.279
<v Speaker 1>Episodes, so you never know, Yeah, you never know, You

0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:56.800
<v Speaker 1>never know. I mean, I I Donald and I have

0:51:56.880 --> 0:51:58.760
<v Speaker 1>both been on ten episode shows.

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:01.560
<v Speaker 3>I've been on, Yeah, I've been on I've been on

0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:05.759
<v Speaker 3>an episode. Listen, I've been on the shows that only

0:52:05.880 --> 0:52:08.279
<v Speaker 3>lasted thirteen episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was it.

0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:11.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well mine, I think I beat you, Alex, think

0:52:11.440 --> 0:52:12.000
<v Speaker 1>only went ten.

0:52:12.800 --> 0:52:14.720
<v Speaker 2>No, you did more than that. You guys did like twelve.

0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:17.319
<v Speaker 1>No, we did ten, I think, but it was fun

0:52:17.400 --> 0:52:17.920
<v Speaker 1>more lasted.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say this, thank goodness that Hollywood at least

0:52:21.520 --> 0:52:24.960
<v Speaker 3>lets the thirteen still air because I remember, or you.

0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Get paid for the thirteen? Ouse I remember, you get canceled.

0:52:29.080 --> 0:52:29.600
<v Speaker 2>That's a rat.

0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:35.360
<v Speaker 4>Oh, Donald, I was. I did a show that I

0:52:35.560 --> 0:52:43.520
<v Speaker 4>turned down twice and it was written by Mark somebody Mark,

0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:48.200
<v Speaker 4>it'll come to me. He was in Gary Goldberg's camp,

0:52:49.120 --> 0:52:52.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, family ties, and he came to me with

0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:57.399
<v Speaker 4>this idea of a Rush Limbaugh with a gay daughter.

0:52:58.320 --> 0:53:02.120
<v Speaker 4>But it was in the eighties, and I said, no,

0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:06.440
<v Speaker 4>it's too controversial, but it is so funny. I've got

0:53:06.560 --> 0:53:10.880
<v Speaker 4>to say yes. And we sold it to NBC. Somebody

0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:14.120
<v Speaker 4>an NBC must have looked at it after it was

0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:18.040
<v Speaker 4>bought and said, not on my network. Now we're back

0:53:18.080 --> 0:53:22.359
<v Speaker 4>in the world. We sell it to Fox. They don't

0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:25.800
<v Speaker 4>want the gay daughter. So now it is David Schwimmer,

0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:29.880
<v Speaker 4>who is my son, who goes to college to be

0:53:30.080 --> 0:53:33.960
<v Speaker 4>a lawyer, comes back. He wants to be a chef.

0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Has nothing to do with the original, have nothing to

0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:37.160
<v Speaker 1>do with the gay or anything.

0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:42.920
<v Speaker 4>This is the life lesson when you're doing something and

0:53:43.120 --> 0:53:47.320
<v Speaker 4>it gets bastardized to where you don't recognize it anymore.

0:53:48.040 --> 0:53:48.560
<v Speaker 4>Go home.

0:53:49.040 --> 0:53:51.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got used reminding me the funniest story from

0:53:51.920 --> 0:53:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the movie The TV Set. Have you ever seen that? No, Well, listeners,

0:53:56.680 --> 0:53:58.759
<v Speaker 1>and Henry, I want you to see this when we

0:53:58.800 --> 0:54:00.840
<v Speaker 1>call the TV Set. It's about the making of a pilot.

0:54:02.120 --> 0:54:05.040
<v Speaker 1>And it's so funny Henry because there's so many inside

0:54:05.120 --> 0:54:09.320
<v Speaker 1>jokes you'll you'll laugh at him. And David d'coveney plays

0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I think he's the showrunner of the of the of

0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:15.360
<v Speaker 1>the the creator of the show. And Sigourney Weaver plays

0:54:15.440 --> 0:54:19.680
<v Speaker 1>the studio head and she says, look, we want to

0:54:19.760 --> 0:54:21.640
<v Speaker 1>do the show, but we want to get rid of

0:54:21.719 --> 0:54:26.160
<v Speaker 1>the the suicide in the in the pilot, and David

0:54:26.239 --> 0:54:27.920
<v Speaker 1>du coveny says, the suicide is the whole reason I

0:54:28.000 --> 0:54:30.520
<v Speaker 1>wrote the show. The suicide is is the was the

0:54:30.760 --> 0:54:33.400
<v Speaker 1>raison deetra for for the whole pilot, and it's the

0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:35.879
<v Speaker 1>It's the whole reason that I'm sitting here in front

0:54:35.920 --> 0:54:37.520
<v Speaker 1>of you when the show is getting made is because

0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:39.920
<v Speaker 1>that started me. Because of this and and and I

0:54:39.960 --> 0:54:41.960
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the suicide. And

0:54:41.960 --> 0:54:45.239
<v Speaker 1>there's a long pause and Sigourney Weaver goes, but what

0:54:45.320 --> 0:54:55.960
<v Speaker 1>if it wasn't? And to me, as somebody's in this industry,

0:54:56.520 --> 0:54:59.440
<v Speaker 1>it like summed up everything about the struggle of getting

0:54:59.440 --> 0:54:59.960
<v Speaker 1>stuff made.

0:55:00.560 --> 0:55:04.040
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, it's so true. I was offered a

0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:08.719
<v Speaker 4>show very funny, and I lost my wife, my daughter,

0:55:09.000 --> 0:55:15.600
<v Speaker 4>her mother, and the network said, it's so funny, we

0:55:15.760 --> 0:55:20.760
<v Speaker 4>really want to do it, but our audience doesn't like grief.

0:55:23.440 --> 0:55:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:29.880
<v Speaker 4>Wait what our audience does not do well with grief?

0:55:30.360 --> 0:55:35.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's all that's on television right now. Wait.

0:55:35.280 --> 0:55:39.560
<v Speaker 3>Wait, I don't understand what analytics. What analytics are they're

0:55:39.600 --> 0:55:41.319
<v Speaker 3>looking at at the time, I.

0:55:41.360 --> 0:55:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Don't know had another funny Well, I don't know. I've

0:55:45.280 --> 0:55:47.600
<v Speaker 1>just been doing pilots and stuff. You see the dial

0:55:47.680 --> 0:55:50.920
<v Speaker 1>testing and everything. It's so it's such a trippy, weird thing.

0:55:51.000 --> 0:55:52.239
<v Speaker 1>But wait, I want to leave time to talk. We

0:55:52.280 --> 0:55:54.839
<v Speaker 1>got to leave time to talk about two more mega hits.

0:55:55.200 --> 0:55:59.400
<v Speaker 1>So you basically got a cameo on Arrested Development and

0:55:59.520 --> 0:56:02.520
<v Speaker 1>then did ended up doing thirty two episodes. I mean,

0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:03.480
<v Speaker 1>did they how did they?

0:56:03.560 --> 0:56:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Did?

0:56:03.719 --> 0:56:05.279
<v Speaker 1>They just love the character and love what you were

0:56:05.320 --> 0:56:05.960
<v Speaker 1>doing so much.

0:56:06.400 --> 0:56:10.080
<v Speaker 4>That is exactly right. I just did what my instinct

0:56:10.120 --> 0:56:13.120
<v Speaker 4>told me to do, and Mitch Hurwitz kept writing me

0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:21.880
<v Speaker 4>and he is I have literally worked with such brilliant

0:56:22.000 --> 0:56:22.720
<v Speaker 4>human beings.

0:56:23.239 --> 0:56:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you really have some of the greatest.

0:56:25.920 --> 0:56:32.880
<v Speaker 4>Am greatest handler. Yeah, Mitch Hurwitz, John Shure, uh, and

0:56:33.040 --> 0:56:35.239
<v Speaker 4>then Bill Hater and Alec.

0:56:35.080 --> 0:56:38.719
<v Speaker 1>Burg, Alec Berg. Yeah, yeah, you've really worked with You

0:56:38.800 --> 0:56:41.160
<v Speaker 1>really have worked with some of the most legendary showrunners

0:56:41.200 --> 0:56:41.680
<v Speaker 1>of all time.

0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:48.440
<v Speaker 4>And then let's not forget Children's Hospital with that whole bunch.

0:56:49.760 --> 0:56:51.120
<v Speaker 2>In the same set of scrubs.

0:56:51.480 --> 0:56:56.080
<v Speaker 1>You guys, Oh my god, when what was your was arrested,

0:56:56.360 --> 0:56:58.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, I did a cameo, I did a little

0:56:58.920 --> 0:57:01.480
<v Speaker 1>thing on arrested, and I had so much fun. It

0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:03.160
<v Speaker 1>felt like there was a lot of room for you

0:57:03.239 --> 0:57:05.520
<v Speaker 1>guys to play around, right. It was that the environment

0:57:05.560 --> 0:57:06.160
<v Speaker 1>that you could do.

0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:10.200
<v Speaker 4>Some know what in structure comes freedom and you could

0:57:10.239 --> 0:57:14.920
<v Speaker 4>play around. But when they heard that you were going

0:57:15.239 --> 0:57:18.960
<v Speaker 4>too far adrift, they would put you right back.

0:57:19.280 --> 0:57:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:57:19.480 --> 0:57:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I had a thing where I was riffing with David

0:57:21.160 --> 0:57:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Cross because we were both never nudes and we were

0:57:25.280 --> 0:57:30.280
<v Speaker 1>both standing there in tattered jean shorts. Short shorts and

0:57:30.480 --> 0:57:33.400
<v Speaker 1>David Cross. I just he was riffing the most insane,

0:57:33.720 --> 0:57:36.520
<v Speaker 1>hilarious stuffs, none of which ended up in the show,

0:57:36.560 --> 0:57:39.120
<v Speaker 1>by the way, I mean a tiny fraction of but

0:57:39.200 --> 0:57:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I remember laughing so hard at this insane stuff he

0:57:42.720 --> 0:57:45.080
<v Speaker 1>was saying, which I would have loved if it was

0:57:45.120 --> 0:57:46.880
<v Speaker 1>in the show. But I'm sure Mitch was like, all right,

0:57:46.960 --> 0:57:48.000
<v Speaker 1>let's trim all that back.

0:57:48.120 --> 0:57:54.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. No, Mitch was very very clear about his vision,

0:57:54.800 --> 0:57:57.200
<v Speaker 4>and I mean that is the beginning and the end

0:57:57.520 --> 0:58:00.640
<v Speaker 4>of a great showrunner. Yes, when they've got the vision

0:58:01.160 --> 0:58:05.040
<v Speaker 4>and in that structure, you get to be free.

0:58:05.480 --> 0:58:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, we've had that with Bill Lawrence. And I

0:58:08.000 --> 0:58:10.560
<v Speaker 1>have to tell you, I'm I'm directing Shrinking now.

0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:15.520
<v Speaker 4>And Mark Lawrence. Thank you Mark Lawrence versus the man

0:58:15.560 --> 0:58:21.360
<v Speaker 4>who created the show. I did Monty about Rush Limbaugh

0:58:21.440 --> 0:58:22.200
<v Speaker 4>and his gay daughter.

0:58:22.600 --> 0:58:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh got it. I just wanted to say that we

0:58:26.000 --> 0:58:29.240
<v Speaker 1>had that with Bill as actors. And it's funny when

0:58:29.240 --> 0:58:32.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm directing. I just directed Shrinking and I'm turning in

0:58:32.840 --> 0:58:34.760
<v Speaker 1>my cut and I'm sitting there with Bill and you

0:58:34.800 --> 0:58:38.040
<v Speaker 1>know it's his baby. You know, I'm I'm I'm directing it.

0:58:38.160 --> 0:58:42.360
<v Speaker 1>But we have this little battle sometimes over over what's

0:58:42.440 --> 0:58:43.800
<v Speaker 1>going to end up in the show and what's not

0:58:43.880 --> 0:58:45.920
<v Speaker 1>going to end up in the show. But you're right.

0:58:46.000 --> 0:58:48.720
<v Speaker 1>The brilliance of a great show runner is is someone

0:58:48.840 --> 0:58:50.920
<v Speaker 1>like a Mitch Herwitz or or a Bill Lawrence or

0:58:50.920 --> 0:58:53.640
<v Speaker 1>a Gary Marshall, who goes, I hear you, I see

0:58:53.680 --> 0:58:59.040
<v Speaker 1>what your contribution was. I I love it, but it's

0:58:59.200 --> 0:59:01.400
<v Speaker 1>here's my vision, and here's what it's going to be.

0:59:01.520 --> 0:59:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Because for me, I would let for example, I would

0:59:03.440 --> 0:59:07.680
<v Speaker 1>let my episode go long. Bill has a very clear vision.

0:59:07.720 --> 0:59:10.040
<v Speaker 1>He does not like half hour comedies that go too long.

0:59:10.600 --> 0:59:12.400
<v Speaker 1>So he's cutting things that I'm going, why are you

0:59:12.480 --> 0:59:15.640
<v Speaker 1>cutting that? It's it's funny, it's nice. He's like, it's

0:59:15.680 --> 0:59:18.240
<v Speaker 1>too long. Shows too long. And that's just a little

0:59:18.360 --> 0:59:20.960
<v Speaker 1>minuscule example of like that. This is his baby, this

0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:23.440
<v Speaker 1>is his vision. This is why he's brilliant at what

0:59:23.520 --> 0:59:23.840
<v Speaker 1>he does.

0:59:24.000 --> 0:59:28.480
<v Speaker 4>You know. Yeah, but you know what everybody else benefits

0:59:29.200 --> 0:59:34.280
<v Speaker 4>from somebody having a real point of view. Yes, everybody,

0:59:34.440 --> 0:59:39.200
<v Speaker 4>every member of the cast, the crew, the writer's everybody.

0:59:39.600 --> 0:59:44.040
<v Speaker 4>It is essential. Yeah, you know, because I listen, I

0:59:44.200 --> 0:59:48.200
<v Speaker 4>think I am so funny, I am so great. Oh

0:59:48.320 --> 0:59:52.880
<v Speaker 4>my god, I just improvised, and then you realize, maybe

0:59:52.960 --> 0:59:55.320
<v Speaker 4>I should just go back to the script and shut up.

0:59:55.640 --> 0:59:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I hear you, Yeah that Yeah.

0:59:58.360 --> 1:00:01.600
<v Speaker 3>When that's when you real that, when you realize you've

1:00:01.640 --> 1:00:05.840
<v Speaker 3>gone too far, it's it's it's a little embarrassing.

1:00:06.000 --> 1:00:09.240
<v Speaker 1>And sometimes you're laughing. Sometimes sometimes you're just cracking up

1:00:09.240 --> 1:00:12.080
<v Speaker 1>because it's new, and you know what, and you realize, like, hey,

1:00:12.240 --> 1:00:14.360
<v Speaker 1>we laughed hard at the table, read it that joke,

1:00:15.160 --> 1:00:16.760
<v Speaker 1>and now we're all just used to it, so it's

1:00:16.800 --> 1:00:19.760
<v Speaker 1>not new, and now we think we're hilarious because we've

1:00:19.800 --> 1:00:22.360
<v Speaker 1>improvised five other things. But you know what, really the

1:00:22.480 --> 1:00:24.400
<v Speaker 1>best joke is the one that they wrote.

1:00:24.200 --> 1:00:26.920
<v Speaker 3>The one that started with but weally said, so much

1:00:27.040 --> 1:00:30.000
<v Speaker 3>time just now fucking around, guys, let's just go back

1:00:30.040 --> 1:00:30.680
<v Speaker 3>to what was there.

1:00:31.040 --> 1:00:33.320
<v Speaker 4>But Donald, I have to say, I'm gonna I can't

1:00:33.400 --> 1:00:37.680
<v Speaker 4>let what you just said go. Okay, you can't be embarrassed.

1:00:38.200 --> 1:00:43.439
<v Speaker 4>And I'll tell you why. If you don't try, if

1:00:43.960 --> 1:00:48.000
<v Speaker 4>you don't put it out there, you'll never know. Yeah,

1:00:48.520 --> 1:00:54.000
<v Speaker 4>it might be amazing, but you can't know that unless

1:00:54.040 --> 1:00:54.520
<v Speaker 4>you try it.

1:00:54.840 --> 1:00:55.600
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, you go on.

1:00:58.040 --> 1:01:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the best advice for actors that are listening, Like,

1:01:01.720 --> 1:01:05.480
<v Speaker 1>the biggest thing of acting is getting back to when

1:01:05.520 --> 1:01:08.320
<v Speaker 1>you were a kid and didn't have this embarrassment voice

1:01:08.440 --> 1:01:10.919
<v Speaker 1>in your head. It's getting back to being a little

1:01:10.960 --> 1:01:13.560
<v Speaker 1>kid who's silly and crazy and doesn't have that filter

1:01:13.680 --> 1:01:15.440
<v Speaker 1>because they don't want to be judged. I mean, that's

1:01:15.800 --> 1:01:17.640
<v Speaker 1>that's the best thing an acting class can give you.

1:01:18.400 --> 1:01:22.720
<v Speaker 4>I'm telling you you cannot be embarrassed. There's no room

1:01:22.880 --> 1:01:26.080
<v Speaker 4>for it, and there's no purpose for it. You've got

1:01:26.240 --> 1:01:30.200
<v Speaker 4>to try your imagination and then if it doesn't work,

1:01:30.640 --> 1:01:31.120
<v Speaker 4>I tried.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the perfect segue. Because I'm such a good

1:01:35.080 --> 1:01:37.560
<v Speaker 1>podcast host doing.

1:01:37.480 --> 1:01:40.880
<v Speaker 3>Pretty well today, I'm not gonna lie the conversation between

1:01:40.920 --> 1:01:41.200
<v Speaker 3>you two.

1:01:41.400 --> 1:01:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Watch this one, Donald, watch this segue. You sound very

1:01:44.800 --> 1:01:47.760
<v Speaker 1>much to me right now, Henry like an acting teacher,

1:01:48.320 --> 1:01:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Which brings me to one of the finest uh pieces

1:01:52.200 --> 1:01:57.360
<v Speaker 1>of television I think in at least the last two decades,

1:01:58.680 --> 1:02:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Barry h you are so phenomenal on the show. You've

1:02:01.960 --> 1:02:03.760
<v Speaker 1>got an I mean sitting behind you for it.

1:02:04.240 --> 1:02:04.560
<v Speaker 4>Thank you?

1:02:05.000 --> 1:02:06.640
<v Speaker 1>How did that come about? How did you get it?

1:02:06.720 --> 1:02:08.520
<v Speaker 1>How did you become part of this universe?

1:02:09.720 --> 1:02:15.160
<v Speaker 4>Three things? I got a call that Bill Hayter and

1:02:15.360 --> 1:02:18.960
<v Speaker 4>HBO would like to meet you. I thought, oh my goodness,

1:02:19.480 --> 1:02:22.000
<v Speaker 4>I'd never worked for HBO and I watched Bill Hayter

1:02:22.160 --> 1:02:26.040
<v Speaker 4>every Saturday night on Saturday Night Live. This is amazing.

1:02:26.840 --> 1:02:30.720
<v Speaker 4>They said, you're on a short list. I said, is

1:02:30.920 --> 1:02:37.400
<v Speaker 4>Dustin Hoffman on that list? Because if he is, I'm

1:02:37.440 --> 1:02:41.880
<v Speaker 4>not going in. They said no, they sent me the script.

1:02:42.800 --> 1:02:46.360
<v Speaker 4>Max was here. I gave him the script. He's now

1:02:46.640 --> 1:02:48.520
<v Speaker 4>directing me from my audition.

1:02:49.080 --> 1:02:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Amazing. I go in.

1:02:52.320 --> 1:02:56.120
<v Speaker 4>Things go, I meet Bill, I meet Alec. They asked

1:02:56.160 --> 1:03:00.200
<v Speaker 4>me to be in it, and I'm telling you it

1:03:00.600 --> 1:03:05.320
<v Speaker 4>was all I did was try and fill the vision

1:03:05.840 --> 1:03:11.160
<v Speaker 4>of those two guys, and it was, oh my, what

1:03:11.520 --> 1:03:14.840
<v Speaker 4>a journey. And I have to tell you I love

1:03:16.280 --> 1:03:19.760
<v Speaker 4>teaching and I only do it once a year. At

1:03:19.840 --> 1:03:24.680
<v Speaker 4>the Vulture Festival, which will be in November. They hold

1:03:24.760 --> 1:03:28.320
<v Speaker 4>a Vulture right here in La the Vulture Festival, and

1:03:28.480 --> 1:03:32.800
<v Speaker 4>I go and I hold an acting class and people come.

1:03:33.560 --> 1:03:37.600
<v Speaker 1>They know, they do know what I'm saying. It's funny

1:03:37.720 --> 1:03:40.720
<v Speaker 1>that you know. Obviously you're playing such a such a character,

1:03:40.800 --> 1:03:42.880
<v Speaker 1>and I loved you on the show. But there's there's

1:03:43.000 --> 1:03:45.000
<v Speaker 1>moments where I as I get talked to you where

1:03:45.000 --> 1:03:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I see your personality and especially when you when you're

1:03:47.640 --> 1:03:50.240
<v Speaker 1>giving life advice come out of it. Did they know

1:03:50.400 --> 1:03:52.840
<v Speaker 1>anything about you when they created this character or did

1:03:52.880 --> 1:03:55.600
<v Speaker 1>It's probably, like I'm guessing with Donald and I were.

1:03:56.040 --> 1:03:58.560
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like Bill began to morph and shape the

1:03:58.680 --> 1:03:59.440
<v Speaker 1>character around.

1:03:59.640 --> 1:04:02.800
<v Speaker 4>I think that's true. They morphed and shaped the character.

1:04:04.280 --> 1:04:08.440
<v Speaker 4>I was supposed to be just a hard ass asshole,

1:04:09.800 --> 1:04:13.440
<v Speaker 4>and they went, oh, yeah, he could be, you know,

1:04:13.600 --> 1:04:16.880
<v Speaker 4>like a human a little bit. Yeah, And so yes,

1:04:17.040 --> 1:04:21.360
<v Speaker 4>they they had a vision and in that vision they

1:04:22.480 --> 1:04:25.760
<v Speaker 4>wrote to me, yeah, and then let me tell you

1:04:26.120 --> 1:04:30.120
<v Speaker 4>toward the end, it got so dark on this comedy

1:04:30.280 --> 1:04:33.040
<v Speaker 4>that I had to buy a miner's hat with a

1:04:33.200 --> 1:04:35.400
<v Speaker 4>lamp so I could see where we were going.

1:04:38.200 --> 1:04:41.200
<v Speaker 1>It was so brilliant. If you haven't watched Barry, please

1:04:41.280 --> 1:04:44.720
<v Speaker 1>watch Barry, especially if you're a Scrubs fan. I really

1:04:44.760 --> 1:04:48.000
<v Speaker 1>think that you'll like it. I think Bill Hayter did

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<v Speaker 1>something I love so much, which is and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that we aspired to do on Scrubs, which was take

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<v Speaker 1>the take, single camera comedy, directing to a to a

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<v Speaker 1>higher level. And man, did he raise the bar on

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<v Speaker 1>on on direction of a half hour comedy.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'll tell you something again. You know you can't

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<v Speaker 4>throw the word around, but there is brilliance in that

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<v Speaker 4>young man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that is Oh, it's it's so clear. Is so clear? Man? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>That that that that I'm gonna say.

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<v Speaker 3>Bill Hayter is a very very just character work. All

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<v Speaker 3>of that stuff. He's just very unique man.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the fact that he can turn shows like

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<v Speaker 2>that are kind of dramatic to me. But when you

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<v Speaker 2>can turn a drama into a drama y and start

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<v Speaker 2>winning comedy.

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<v Speaker 3>Awards, I think you really really you know, you're touching

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<v Speaker 3>something like that's hard to do. Leaning into the joke

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<v Speaker 3>is easy freaking telling a joke and people getting it

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<v Speaker 3>in the style that you're trying to tell it. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>telling a joke in a different style is like to

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<v Speaker 3>be I don't know, man, I could be loud and

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<v Speaker 3>get laughs.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of hard for me to be soft and

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<v Speaker 2>quiet and be like this and talk natural and and

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<v Speaker 2>and get a laugh.

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<v Speaker 3>There's it's just there's so many there's so many levels

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<v Speaker 3>to it. And this was one of those shows where

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<v Speaker 3>ye what.

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<v Speaker 4>It is Donald, you have you trust, you see the

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<v Speaker 4>person in front of you, you see the two people

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<v Speaker 4>in front of you, and then you just trust and

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<v Speaker 4>you give yourself over to the process. Halfway through the

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<v Speaker 4>fourth year, because there are only four seasons, Bill said, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>I want to know how it ends, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>going to tell you because there might be somebody in

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<v Speaker 4>your audience who hasn't do it. But I went in

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<v Speaker 4>the corner and shook for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>All I mean I had to tell you just from

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<v Speaker 1>your performance was just magical. The leading lady, Sarah Goldberg

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<v Speaker 1>has there's a few times where he does she does

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<v Speaker 1>a monologue as a woner that ever cuts off of

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<v Speaker 1>her face. I think Bill did it a few times

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just unbelievable her performance and just really really

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<v Speaker 1>just an incredible, incredible.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she's on industry now that show industry.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to check that out.

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<v Speaker 4>Caring about that is a hard show.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to check that out.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just end on. Uh you post pictures of your fishing?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you're an avid? You're an avid fisherman?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh? I love it more than I continue.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, which style do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>We do well?

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<v Speaker 4>I've done a lot deep sea fishing. I vomit. Bass

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<v Speaker 4>fishing is you catch it, you wheel it in. Trout

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<v Speaker 4>fishing is like zen. It's like a washing machine for

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<v Speaker 4>your brain. You have to be in tune with the fish.

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<v Speaker 4>You cannot worry about one other thing that is happening

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<v Speaker 4>to you in the world. And my wife is a

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<v Speaker 4>great fisher person. I don't show pictures of my wife's fish.

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<v Speaker 4>Christ there usually bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you learn? How did you get into it?

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<v Speaker 4>Skip Brittenham the Third took me and Stacy down the

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<v Speaker 4>Smith River in Montana with an outfit where you float

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<v Speaker 4>all day, you sleep out under the stars, and for

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<v Speaker 4>five days you fish.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>And I didn't catch much, but no pun intended. I

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<v Speaker 4>was hooked. And so since the middle eighties, Stacy and

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<v Speaker 4>I have gone every year to fly fish for trout. Yeah. You.

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<v Speaker 3>Sam Jenkins talked a lot about fly fishing. He really

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<v Speaker 3>enjoyed fly fishing. He really enjoys fly fishing. Oh, oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god, he might talk about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Jimmy Kimmel is a big fisherman. Michael Keaton is a

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<v Speaker 4>big fisherman.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is fly fishing.

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<v Speaker 4>This is fly fishing exclusively.

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<v Speaker 1>I only know it from the movie A River runs

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<v Speaker 1>through it.

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<v Speaker 4>You are in that place, You are hearing that water,

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<v Speaker 4>you are catching those fish. You take a picture, you

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<v Speaker 4>put it back, you catch him next year.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's so sweet, and you could also feel like

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<v Speaker 2>your Brad Pitt.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, yeah, well you know from the face down.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Henry, we want to thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 6>There must be.

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<v Speaker 4>There must be men on this planet that are just

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<v Speaker 4>so ugly they don't leave home. Because Brad got all

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<v Speaker 4>the good looking.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just so handsome man. We got to meet him.

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<v Speaker 1>I got lost in his eyes recently.

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<v Speaker 2>And I found myself when we're leaving, like, have a hug.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I did with Brad. I'm so sorry to

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<v Speaker 4>interrupt you, but we're I had an award show. There's

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<v Speaker 4>Brad Pitt in this long flowing cashmere coat and I

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<v Speaker 4>said to him everything that is it, don't move. I

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<v Speaker 4>just have to get my wife. And I got my

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<v Speaker 4>wife and took a picture of those two together.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny. We were walking. Donald and I were walking

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<v Speaker 1>at F one in Vegas, and I told him we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to meet Brad Pitt. Act cool, and he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>how much take a selfie? I go, don't take a selfie.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, I can't take a selfie.

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<v Speaker 4>I go do not.

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<v Speaker 1>We're supposed to act cool. We're supposed to act like

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<v Speaker 1>we always hang out with David Fincher and Brad Pitt. Anyway, Henry,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for coming on. We really do

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. Wow, I really I want him to be

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<v Speaker 1>my father. I kept thinking of my dad and that

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<v Speaker 1>was my dad the whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, he's a great man. What a man.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad was increble man. But didn't didn't didn't he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't He like the father that you want in your life.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's the most Look I.

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<v Speaker 2>Kept telling y'all in the beginning. He's like a mentor

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<v Speaker 2>to me.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't think he knows it everything I said

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<v Speaker 3>with every insecurity, I had everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Donald, hold up, let's go back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's let's address this. I love him, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Like, he's just such a great person.

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<v Speaker 3>He's just he's one of those people that you know

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<v Speaker 3>and and and you know, we don't know what what

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<v Speaker 3>what dwells deep dark in his heart, but there's got

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<v Speaker 3>to be so much love.

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<v Speaker 1>But he seems to have it all, you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>seems to have it all because he's and when I

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<v Speaker 1>say have it all, I don't mean the career success,

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<v Speaker 1>although he's had that. I just mean he seems so

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<v Speaker 1>fulfilled in his life with his family and with his

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<v Speaker 1>fishing and his children's books. He just seems like like

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<v Speaker 1>he seems what I aspire to be, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>present and joyful and yeah, your career will have highs

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<v Speaker 1>and lows and and things will happen. But he's got

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<v Speaker 1>the love of this family and him he and his

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<v Speaker 1>wife go fishing together. I mean, it just seems like

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<v Speaker 1>the dreamiest person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Man, it seems like he's living the dream. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But he also said something that was really important though.

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<v Speaker 3>It's because he's grateful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. That's when he started the whole gracious. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to work on that, you and me.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, gracious do we try.

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<v Speaker 1>I do it every night I go to bed. I

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<v Speaker 1>I do have the ritual of saying that. I learned

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<v Speaker 1>saying one, am I grateful for that happened today. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing. I've been doing okay at that. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>that when bad, when annoying things happen, or things that

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<v Speaker 1>are frustrating, or I get depressed about something, I I

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<v Speaker 1>He's right. It's the best thing to do is switch

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<v Speaker 1>to gratitude and switch to how lucky we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we forget, because we forget.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's everybody, everybody listening, we all, we all. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure everybody listening can relate that we have so much

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<v Speaker 1>to be grateful for. And I'm grateful for you. Joelle

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<v Speaker 1>and DJ Daniel.

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<v Speaker 2>He called Joel, Joel and Daniel DJ all right, DJ

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<v Speaker 2>DJ Joel.

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<v Speaker 1>The audience I'm not watching on YouTube didn't see that.

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<v Speaker 1>He did that whole interview with a ball or Emmy

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<v Speaker 1>sitting right beside him for Barry.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how you do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. By the way, if I ever win an Emmy,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna go right in the grammy.

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<v Speaker 2>Why don't you freaking put the grammy.

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<v Speaker 1>Up so the grammy doesn't feel Does he feel?

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<v Speaker 4>What? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't feel relevant?

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<v Speaker 2>What fucker? You got part of the ego?

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<v Speaker 1>I did get the one, you got the you got

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<v Speaker 1>the I got the girl, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Got the.

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<v Speaker 6>Stories. I'm not so we made about a bunch of

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<v Speaker 6>dogs and nurses, he said, he's the stories.

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<v Speaker 4>So gather.

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<v Speaker 6>Yead air hops. But we watch always acted

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<v Speaker 4>M h