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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Coleen Wait and today we have very

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Speaker 1: special guests Laren Wong in the building, recording artists. Laren

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Speaker 1: Wong is in the building promoting his fourth EP or

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Speaker 1: long and fourth, Long and fourth, fourth and long, fourth

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Speaker 1: and long. We gotta throw it back to fourth and long.

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Speaker 1: We have to throw it back to the NFL, of course.

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Speaker 1: So what are you gonna have me eating today?

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Speaker 2: I'm going to have you eat the Laryn Wong Classic,

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Speaker 2: the Laryn Wong Struggle.

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Speaker 1: Special, the Struggle Special.

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Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am, aka steaks.

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Speaker 1: Steak and taters. That's what that is. You're gonna cut

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Speaker 1: those things.

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Speaker 2: Up, oh for sure. Steak and mashed potatoes.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay? And then what are the ingredients for

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Speaker 1: your dish?

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Speaker 2: So here we have a cut of steak, baby spinach, butter, salt, pepper, garlic, thyme,

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Speaker 2: olive oil.

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Speaker 1: And then what is the heavy cream?

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Speaker 2: Heavy? I'm sorry, heavy cream as well?

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Speaker 1: And what's that for?

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Speaker 2: Put the massed potatoes?

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Speaker 1: You put heavy cream in there? Okay, we learn it,

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Speaker 1: we learn it. He's a real cook, guys. He came

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Speaker 1: also with his handy dandy device. What is that right here?

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Speaker 2: Is a weight? I call it a meat pressure. But

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Speaker 2: this makes sure you get an even sea or on

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Speaker 2: your steak.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now, do you eat your steaks medium rare? Or

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Speaker 1: is it gonna be bloody on the inside?

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Speaker 2: It depends how you like it? You got to mal

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Speaker 2: you like it?

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Speaker 1: How do you eat it?

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Speaker 2: How do I eat it? It varies. But sometimes the blood.

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Speaker 2: I know you're not supposed to be eating blood, but

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Speaker 2: sometimes it makes it taste better. So medium, medium, well

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Speaker 2: sometimes sometimes medium rare. Just depends on the cut.

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Speaker 1: I was scared you're gonna say medium rare. You look

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Speaker 1: like a medium rare. Okay, go ahead, get in the kitchen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, get you. But in the kitchen, let's see. Let's

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Speaker 2: see what we got here. So we got the pre

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Speaker 2: boiled potatoes. Let me check on the consistency of them.

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Speaker 2: Let's see this.

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Speaker 1: Go for it like that. We already started to boil, guys.

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Speaker 1: I know there's not a chance on earth that they already.

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Speaker 2: It's okay, just watch this. It's another thing too, when

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Speaker 2: you throw it in there like that. I didn't throw

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Speaker 2: these potatoes in here.

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Speaker 1: Like this, y'all, No I did.

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Speaker 2: I feel, and I appreciate you for that, But it's

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Speaker 2: a good teaching moment right here. When you throw it

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Speaker 2: in like that, it's not going to cook that fast

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Speaker 2: because there's not as much surface area for the heat

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Speaker 2: to even you know what I mean? So boom.

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Speaker 1: Well they actually didn't do so bad either. You may know,

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Speaker 1: how do you know all this cooking stuff?

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Speaker 2: Because every adult should know how to cook, period. Okay,

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Speaker 2: come on now, that's.

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Speaker 1: Like you don't see a lot of men knowing their

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Speaker 1: way around the kitchen like this, No disrespect.

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Speaker 2: That's like a dependency thing, you know, mm hmm. Don't

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Speaker 2: you want to be able to sustain yourself? Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: why wouldn't you know how to cook?

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Speaker 1: So who taught you how to cook?

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Speaker 2: My mom? But also just myself. I taught myself how

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Speaker 2: to cook a lot of dishes. Okay, YouTube, that's what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. People be acting like you so hard you

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Speaker 2: be looking it up on YouTube? Yeah, before like all

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Speaker 2: these other options, I was on YouTube. I learned how

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Speaker 2: to do everything on YouTube. Okay everything.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever see a recipe on like Instagram where

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Speaker 1: someone cooks it and then you go and you save

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Speaker 1: it and you actually try to make.

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Speaker 2: It absolutely TikTok. Yeah, like the foody TikTok foody Instagram

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Speaker 2: has has definitely up my culinary career.

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Speaker 1: Is that something you're really into though? Like, are you

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Speaker 1: into like cooking and all that?

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Speaker 2: For sure? Sure? Maybe not something I would do, like

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Speaker 2: actually pursue it right now, but just I enjoy doing

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Speaker 2: it at home, like trying new I like a challenge,

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Speaker 2: a creative challenge, just like art. Cooking is art.

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Speaker 1: I one hundred percent agree. I absolutely love cooking, but

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Speaker 1: I love watching other people come up with creative recipes

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But I have a bad habit

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Speaker 1: of cooking something really cool, plating it well, and then

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Speaker 1: not taking a picture.

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Speaker 2: Need that you don't got to take a picture of everything.

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Speaker 1: I want to though I want to show people I

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Speaker 1: can I can do it.

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Speaker 2: You should only take a picture of it when you

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Speaker 2: master it. I mean, I mean, if you want to

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Speaker 2: feel good about me personally.

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Speaker 1: Hey, every plate, it looks good.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I believe you.

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Speaker 1: I'm a plater, you know. I like the whole presentation.

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Speaker 2: Right so right here we got this steak. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for paring this. I remember I used to cook steaks

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Speaker 2: get it right. Why can't I get it right? The

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Speaker 2: reason was it wasn't dry. Really, you got to pack

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Speaker 2: the steak dry.

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Speaker 1: That's how you get That's why you're so anal about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how you get the proper see like proper crust.

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Speaker 2: That's how you get the proper seer in the crust

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Speaker 2: on the steak.

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Speaker 1: Laren, Just so you know, I've been with you for

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Speaker 1: less than like thirty minutes. You have to be one

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Speaker 1: of the most polite people I've ever met. Really, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: does do other people say that to you?

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Speaker 2: No? Okay, all right, all right, you're from New York though,

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Speaker 2: so that's not really saying much.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you got to make it extremely dry? What greed?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing next?

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Speaker 2: So right here, I'm going to classic classic steak. That's

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Speaker 2: how I prepared. You know, a lot of people got

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Speaker 2: their ways. It's my way right here. So boom, patted

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Speaker 2: it dry. I hit the steak with the salt, not

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Speaker 2: too much there.

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Speaker 1: Just make sure it's a healthy coating.

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Speaker 2: A healthy coating. Mix it around a little bit, ingratiate

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Speaker 2: the salt into the fibers of the muscle, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean. Boom. Then I throw some pepper on there,

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Speaker 2: and that's up. Yeah, I'll be busting. I'd be busting

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Speaker 2: down a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I always see people seasoning with your salt and pepper,

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Speaker 1: and I'm always fascinated by it because I use so

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Speaker 1: many seasonings.

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Speaker 2: It's like, okay, you know what, I will compare that

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Speaker 2: to what that's like somebody in music who isn't really

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Speaker 2: confident in what they actually do, so they feel like

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Speaker 2: they gotta put hella stacks and harmonies and just everything everywhere.

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Speaker 2: It's like, not just let it be. If it's a

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Speaker 2: good cut, let it just compliment it and it will

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Speaker 2: shine on its own.

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Speaker 1: We've had chefs on the show that say similar. They're like,

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Speaker 1: just simple so you could taste the flavors of the meat,

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Speaker 1: right for sure? And then why is time such an

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Speaker 2: I use time. I typically don't use time, but you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm on eating while broke, so specially cadence, So I

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Speaker 2: gotta just garden it up a.

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Speaker 1: Little bit, okay, And then are you going to do

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Speaker 1: both sides?

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Speaker 2: It's okay, So I do both sides. Put it on there,

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Speaker 2: flip it, repeat the process. My layer is salt order operations.

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Speaker 2: I go salt, pepper, and then anytime or rosemary that

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Speaker 2: I might add.

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Speaker 1: Now, do you have to make sure that the oil

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Speaker 1: is hop before you place it?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: By the way, these are all genuine questions because I

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Speaker 1: rarely ever, ever, ever, ever ever cook steak, never ever

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Speaker 1: to learn today? Are you using?

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Speaker 2: But I mean something I was gonna use better? Typically,

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Speaker 2: I like using avocado oil.

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Speaker 1: There's avocado oil right there.

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Speaker 2: I know, but I'm gonna try it better. I'm gona

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Speaker 2: try to better because I'm gonn want to baste it

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Speaker 2: and all that.

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Speaker 1: I love butter. I use butter and everything.

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Speaker 2: But the reason why I like avocado oil is because

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Speaker 2: it has a higher burning point. You could put a

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Speaker 2: higher temperature on it and it's not gonna burn and

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Speaker 2: get smoked.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, Oh we need to do that because we

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Speaker 1: have sprinklers.

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Speaker 2: In the building exactly, So we're butter. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna just keep it at a low temperature. Okay,

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Speaker 2: but actually you know it, I'm gonna just use the

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Speaker 2: butter for the spinach. I'm gonna do that. Yeah, right here,

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Speaker 2: let me test this see where we at.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's gonna be ready just based on

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Speaker 1: everything you just did.

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Speaker 2: Is it almost so? I could do that? Time? Put

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Speaker 2: that right there? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So is olive oil have the same process over avocado.

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Speaker 1: It's just avocado's better.

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Speaker 2: Avocado specifically has a higher burning point. You see what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I'm learning, chef, how do I You got it? Don't

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Speaker 1: get ill turn red? You'll see it. We have a producer.

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Speaker 1: She's gonna hate it every time. Every time someone does

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Speaker 1: something remotely like this, I have to tell the story.

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Speaker 1: But we asked if we had told her to be

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Speaker 1: careful because the stove was hot, and I swear to god,

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Speaker 1: she put her hand like directly on it.

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Speaker 2: And we see how I just went. I love it.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't do that. She did it, she put it.

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Speaker 2: I was like, that's why I signed. That's why I

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Speaker 2: signed that waiver. Exactly got you.

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Speaker 1: I'd be like, yo, guys, insurance, it's fake here, Okay, LARRYN.

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Speaker 1: Wong was able to cook the entire meal for us.

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Speaker 1: We did shoot it all. But now we're going to

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Speaker 1: start the interview a little reverse backwards, so let's get

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Speaker 1: into it. So go ahead, and play our beautiful meal.

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Speaker 1: Do you want me to help do some of the plating?

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Speaker 2: Sure be? Could you just put the potatoes on each plate?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I want to do that. This is and these

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Speaker 1: are from scratch mashed potatoes by the way, guys screach

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Speaker 1: and I already sample them. They're really good. I feel

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Speaker 1: like I'm on a date, like a real nice date,

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Speaker 1: and then I think it's only because of the meal

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Speaker 1: you cooked. Do you want more mashed potato?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Please? Actually gotta say something for the team.

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Speaker 1: No, we're not going to save any for you because

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Speaker 1: they they only had your back and you know what

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Speaker 1: was it?

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Speaker 2: Crew?

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Speaker 1: Crew? Stick together? Shout outs to your crew. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do. Do you want me to play the spinach?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Please?

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Speaker 1: Do you mind if we use my fork?

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Speaker 2: No? I don't care.

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Speaker 1: I don't care.

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Speaker 2: I am not of course or not.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So take me back to what was going on

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Speaker 1: during the steak and mashed potatoes and spinach era.

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Speaker 2: That was the time in my life where I was

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Speaker 2: just trying to get my money right, moving around La,

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Speaker 2: trying to see where the studios are, trying to meet people,

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Speaker 2: and I was very patriotic at the time, because e

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Speaker 1: Really, who is a dangerous game? It is so you

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Speaker 1: That's got to be hell, it's.

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Speaker 2: Crazy, it's crazy, but shut up. But I know a

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Speaker 1: That food is good.

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Speaker 2: It was after Canada, I'm like, I got cut from

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Speaker 1: Because at this point your money's run now, or.

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Speaker 2: They just always believed in me.

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Speaker 2: it's kind of cool. Like if I were to God forbid,

444
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 2: I ever, I don't want to be divorced, but I

445
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 2: would like to carry it like how they do.

446
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 1: Are they like good friends divorced or they like just

447
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: never talk bad about each other?

448
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 2: Divorce this cordial? I don't know. Yeah, I can't speak

449
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 2: to how much they communicate, but just every time I

450
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 2: see them interact, it's like I've just seen some other Yeah,

451
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 2: I've seen some other other.

452
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: So I've heard horror stories from people or like trauma

453
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: stories from shop where you're like, you know.

454
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 2: But it's a lot of growth because I remember when

455
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: they were like thirty thirty early thirties, that's around the

456
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 2: time they split, and yeah, they were tripping. It was many,

457
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 2: It was many. How I was I could I don't know.

458
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 2: It was a baby, not a two. I was walking

459
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: around but not I don't can't.

460
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 1: You were like probably around five is tighter, yeah, type,

461
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: but you remember like there was there was a.

462
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 2: Bunch of clothes everywhere, and yeah, I remember I remember,

463
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 2: I remember, I remember.

464
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so you come back home, you start

465
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: working for your auntie and are you and then that's

466
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 1: when your next place starts to transition to crypto.

467
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the whole time, even in the NFL, I'm

468
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 2: just researching crypto, just understanding the four year market cycle,

469
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 2: and we invested at the bottom. I have a group

470
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 2: of buddies from college. I talked to these guys every

471
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 2: other day, but we just got together and put our resort,

472
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 2: put our minds to it, and just figure out how

473
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: we're going to make some money off this this crypto.

474
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 2: Because I've seen other people do it that were in

475
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: very close proximity do it, so no reason we couldn't.

476
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: So when the time opportunity present itself at the bottom

477
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 2: of the market, took a leap of faith. Put whatever

478
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: a little money we had while I was working at

479
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 2: the warehouse, put whatever little money I had in there.

480
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 2: And yeah, and.

481
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: Then that's when you finance your move to transfer to

482
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Yes, okay, okay, Now you go to Los

483
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: Angeles with the intent.

484
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 2: Of making a career out of this music, making great music, yeah,

485
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 2: or making great music. I feel like I was already

486
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 2: doing that. I just wanted to make it a living off.

487
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 1: Of it, like get a return on it for sure. Okay,

488
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: So how are you? How are you doing so far?

489
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: Really good with what getting a return on your music?

490
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Absolutely, I'm getting a return. It's not even and

491
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 2: what I'm realizing is the return the biggest returns don't

492
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: even be financial with this. Yeah, So it's just learning

493
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: more about what even there is to offer. Has brought

494
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 2: a lot of good things into my life have nothing

495
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: to do with money.

496
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: I like that, is it therapeutic? And the fact that

497
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: you get to do what you love every day? Is

498
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: that some of the things?

499
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, but it's just people people like very thankful

500
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: for the people that I've met through music and how

501
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 2: music has strengthened the bonds with those people. Yeah, just

502
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: come and come and come and love for music gave

503
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: me a lot, and it's we've got money off it too,

504
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 2: sure Okay?

505
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: Okay? And then can you talk about Fourth and Long?

506
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 2: Sure?

507
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: Tell me about the project.

508
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: Fourth and Long is my latest EP. I tottled it

509
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 2: Fourth and Long because I made it at a point

510
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 2: in my life. Where are you familiar with football?

511
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: A little bit?

512
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:57,479
Speaker 2: Okay?

513
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 1: So I got a lot of the positions.

514
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 2: Got you do you know any type of like first down, Yeah,

515
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: first and ten and not that much. Okay, so the

516
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: last so fourth, fourth down, fourth and long. That means

517
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 2: you have a long way to go on your last

518
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: opportunity to convert before you transfer the ball. That's a

519
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 2: that's like the most critical situation in football, the most

520
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 2: back against the wall position. So I made this project

521
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 2: at a time where that's how I viewed my life

522
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 2: and my career. So I just started fourth and long.

523
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:35,719
Speaker 2: It's very fitting.

524
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: That's perfect fitting. Yeah. Wow, How does the Danny Lay

525
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: Tour come about?

526
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,959
Speaker 2: The Danny Lay Tour came about through my friend Chelsea

527
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: Chelsea Blath at the time, she was working at Death

528
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 2: Jam and her and my management at the time had

529
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: a relationship before. She's from the Bay Area too. She

530
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: put that out there to the area. But then you

531
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 2: needed an opener relationships. We were just happening to be

532
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,479
Speaker 2: top of mind. We qualified or just had the we

533
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 2: were able to even go on tour. So yeah, even

534
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: we went on fifteen cities. Woeah, fifteen cities. But that

535
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: was when to do crypto too. That was the crypto

536
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: they just said, you guys could come with us, but

537
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: you guys gonna have to figure out everything else, like flights,

538
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: where you guys going to stay, everything, So shout out them.

539
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: You got another question, So is there still a passion

540
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: in you for crypto? You seem like a good business

541
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 1: mind when it.

542
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: Comes to that, sure, but that's my issue. Like that

543
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 2: was the first investment I had made. I had invested

544
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: in crypto before stocks or anything. So now my goal

545
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: with investing and stuff like that is to just be diversified.

546
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: I was putting all my eggs in one basket and

547
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: just happened to a hit, got lucky. But if it didn't, is.

548
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,239
Speaker 1: It really lucky though, because you were studying it for

549
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: quite some time.

550
00:28:59,000 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of lucky.

551
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, it's.

552
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: Kind of lucky.

553
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: What are some of the business business lessons you've learned

554
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: in being in the music business compared to the football business.

555
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 2: It's cliche, but you need it's really a team. It's

556
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: really a team. It's a business. You can't forget the

557
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: second part of it, music business. So you look around

558
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 2: and people like, how do I start in the music business.

559
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: It's like, what does every other business do? They have

560
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: a team of you know, they delegate responsibilities, clearly defined roles,

561
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: stuff like that. They have a create ethos, mission statement

562
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: like treat like a real business.

563
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

564
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: So that's what I've learned so far.

565
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: Has there been any painful lessons in the journey so far?

566
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,719
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Absolutely?

567
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: Can you share some with me?

568
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: One of the most painful lessons from doing music, here's

569
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: a painful lesson. It was painful, but I don't even

570
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 2: look at its painful anymore. But at the time, it

571
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: was painful. When I give this situation. Look, it was

572
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: one time. I ain't gonna say no names, but I

573
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: had a show back in the Bay. This is when

574
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: I'm just back in the Bay, trying to do like

575
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: shows and play in public stuff like that. So I

576
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: get booked in Oakland. Me and my homie had been rehearsing.

577
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: He was playing the bass, I was playing the guitar.

578
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: I was gonna sing all week. The day of the show.

579
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: Comes, Oh my god, I'm scared.

580
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: Though. The day of the show comes, we just hell

581
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: the people there, so I'm ready to go on. I

582
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 2: get my feet on, like it's like twenty minutes fifteen

583
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: minutes before the set, I'm like where's Bread, Where's Bro?

584
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 2: Where's Bro? Like I finally see him. He looked like

585
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: he's seen a ghost.

586
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: What do you mean?

587
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: Oh?

588
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: He got like yeah, what do you call it? Stage

589
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: fright or something?

590
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: He looked like he's seen a ghost? Is I was like,

591
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: what would you look like when you've seen a ghost?

592
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, stage fright.

593
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 2: Something about the situation made him look like that. I

594
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: don't know. Yeah, So that was kind of that was

595
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: that was a painful realization, like, dang, everybody not cut

596
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: cut like that? Everybody not really cut like that?

597
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: How did you guys make it through that show?

598
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: I did it?

599
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: You really did it by yourself like that?

600
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm like, you ain't say yeah yeah, one monkey,

601
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: don't one monkey, Yeah they don't, don't don't stop the show?

602
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.

603
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I like that. I like that you powered

604
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: through it. You didn't beg or pleading nothing.

605
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: Damn ridiculed him like forever. You know what I mean,

606
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: We're gonna do with you later, bro, I'm gonna just

607
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: walk this show real quick.

608
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: How was it?

609
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: It was dope? I got footage too.

610
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: Do you think that that ended up playing a pivotal

611
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: role in where you're at today. Obviously passed the.

612
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 2: Pain part absolutely, just because they let me know that, Like,

613
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: I can't. Really, it's really all on you. I mean, yeah,

614
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: you can. It's being selective of who you put your

615
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: trust in. Yeah.

616
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: What are some of the collapse that you would like

617
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:57,959
Speaker 1: to do in the future.

618
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: There's so many. There's so many. Off the top of

619
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: my head because I was thinking about it. I would

620
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: love to collab with Isaiah Falls. I've been listening to

621
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: him a lot lately. I would love to collab with Kaylanie.

622
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: Oh, I love I've known her since she was fifteen.

623
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: I love Kaitlyn k Lennie taught me how to surf

624
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: what Calenie taught me how to surf?

625
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: Okay, but she's from the Bay, that's right, Okay.

626
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: Who else? Leon Thomas, I'm gonna work with Beyonce, Yeah, Beyonce, Kendrick. Yeah,

627
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: we could talk. We can talk about it. Let me thinking,

628
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: matter of fact, Summer Walker. I want to work with

629
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: some Walker really.

630
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: Okay, So what are some of the milestones that you

631
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: want to do within the next I guess the next

632
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: couple of years.

633
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: I want to hit every festival. I want to hit

634
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: every festival. I want to just really build out this

635
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: community that we have growing right now to a point

636
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: where it's it's self sustaining. It's fully flush the world

637
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: out ecosystem, all the parts and the pieces and the

638
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: people that play into that. So that's that's where I

639
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: see it, because I feel like that's going to be

640
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: the vehicle to take us wherever you want to go.

641
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: How do you deal with the social media pressures?

642
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: What's the pressure?

643
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: So like in the industry now, in all media in forms,

644
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: it seems like everyone has to everyone's constantly asking what

645
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: are the numbers? What are the numbers? What are the numbers?

646
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: What are the numbers? Do you not feel that pressure?

647
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: I just like making music.

648
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: Honestly, you haven't heard any of that. I don't really

649
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: I mean, or you just don't care.

650
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: You look at it, you look at it. But I

651
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: let my team worry about that stuff. I just try

652
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: and give them the most dope shit possible.

653
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you mainly play on the creative side unless

654
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: on the business side. Does that mean? Is that what

655
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: it means?

656
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,479
Speaker 2: I mean kind of kind of you could say that.

657
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: It's just I just know you got to delegate to elevate.

658
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna steal that from you. I'm stealing that's a fact.

659
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta look, I'm gonna let everybody be be

660
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put everybody in the best positions to win.

661
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: So okay, okay, well, I think that's about it. On

662
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: my side, I am dying to eat this meal. Are

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Speaker 1: you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Why do you

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Speaker 1: think not? It's absolutely desten you're talking. Yeah, but you

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Speaker 1: know what, I think I think it's worth being sick.

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna be taking your publicists later talking about

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Speaker 1: I should have never did it.

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Speaker 2: I think you'd be right. I think it's just because

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Speaker 2: you just because I think that was cooked the right way.

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Speaker 1: No, you know what, though, I'm very thankful for this

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Speaker 1: meal on your time, and I love how you're eating it.

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Speaker 1: You're like a true man right here. You're like, forget

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Speaker 1: the cameras. Oh, thank you guys for tuning in. But

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Speaker 1: where can they keep up with? Well, Laryn Wong is

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Speaker 1: gonna have to finish his mouthful of food before he

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Speaker 1: can tell us how we could keep up with everything.

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Speaker 2: Laryn Wong's good, All right, y'all, Big Laren if y'all

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Speaker 2: want to follow up with me, y'all can catch me

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Speaker 2: everywhere your favorite dsp Apple Music, Spotify, social media, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat, SoundCloud, YouTube,

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Speaker 2: same handle Laryn Wong l A r r E n

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Speaker 2: w o ng say one time, LARRYN. Wong l A

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Speaker 1: W Ong and check out fourth and long.

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Speaker 2: Fourth and long out. Now four's up? Come on fours

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Speaker 2: fours up, fourth and long. Okay, I'm forty four years old.

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Speaker 1: He's not forty four. Definitely not forty four. You can

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Speaker 1: google that anyways. Thanks for tuning in.

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Speaker 3: Peace out

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