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Speaker 1: And welcome to Wednesdays and then a big lu kickoff

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Speaker 1: via Twitter hashtag Giants Chat will recap all the latest

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Speaker 1: news from the team pressers that happened earlier today. The

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Speaker 1: the threat of thunderstorm. So that means that the twenty

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Speaker 1: four hour autograph session for Paul to Tina will have

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Speaker 1: to be delayed for another day. Very sorry to report

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Speaker 1: that to the Giants fan base. I know those of

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Speaker 1: you who came from out of town, all the miles

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Speaker 1: you drove, the hotels that you booked, Paul, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the sacrifices that all of these individuals made, and to

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Speaker 1: You know, I haven't off the top and this show

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Speaker 1: A couple of business items we do have to get

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Speaker 1: all of your tickets that were given out for today's practice,

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Speaker 1: they open up another practice for the fans down the road,

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Speaker 1: But right now, today's practice is closed to the public.

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Speaker 1: UH number two. Uh. Tonight MSG's Giants Training Camp Live

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Speaker 1: and so UM we certainly will continue to bring you

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Speaker 1: all the Giants coverage that we can, despite the fact

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Speaker 1: that the weather is not cooperating now in terms of

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Speaker 1: the pressers, Pat Shermer, Daniel Jones both spoke to the

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Speaker 1: media earlier today. I think one of the most interesting

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Speaker 1: takeaways from what Daniel Jones told reporters is the fact

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Speaker 1: that you know, he doesn't shy away from really evaluating

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Speaker 1: his own play, Paul, and putting himself under the microscope

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Speaker 1: and saying, hey, these are the things that I need

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Speaker 1: to do better. And one of the things he pointed

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Speaker 1: new and newer plays, so he's digesting that. Than the

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Speaker 1: defense is also continuing to install new plays for themselves,

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Speaker 1: so he's constantly getting different looks in practice. And you know,

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Speaker 1: he admitted he said, Hey, sometimes it's a little overwhelming

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Speaker 1: because you know, you're trying to get a grasp of

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Speaker 1: on the fly to what the defense is throwing out

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Speaker 1: at you. And I think a number of rookies the

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Speaker 1: reason I bring that up, Paul, they tend to shy

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones doesn't seem to shy away from admitting, Hey,

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Speaker 1: the things I'm noticing, and I hope to continue and

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Speaker 1: improve on a daily basis. He's a humble and modest guy,

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Speaker 1: and when he had his presser last week, usually the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks will talk once a week, he came right out

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Speaker 1: and said, look, I know that I'm a rookie and

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Speaker 1: on an even keel. If he goes up and down

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Speaker 1: and that's something that even Pat Shermer reflected on. You know,

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Speaker 1: was his ability to stay even keel and not get

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Speaker 1: I should say what Dave Gettleman spoke to the media,

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Speaker 1: Paul even one of the things that he mentioned, which

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Speaker 1: how you handle the environment, not just how you handle

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Speaker 1: the xs and ohs. How many times have we talked

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones say? I have great receivers, really really let

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Speaker 1: You can also interact with us on Twitter hashtag Giants Chat.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to your calls, were gonna get to

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Speaker 1: you got for us? Are you doing? Laughing? Paul, I

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Speaker 1: it's a safety issue. They don't have a choice. So

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Speaker 1: they had a hustle the guys inside and the and

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Speaker 1: of course the fans unfortunately who had come to sit

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Speaker 1: also go off when people get too close to Paul

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Speaker 1: to Tino also coached Marvin. So you should know that

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Speaker 1: all I'm doing is just revealing the subtleties and facts.

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Speaker 1: A little guy like you was not gonna be my bodyguard,

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Speaker 1: that's for sure. Well, you know, don't judge a book

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Speaker 1: feistiness can be let out in certain moments, but let's

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Speaker 1: for us, coach? Uh? Yeah, well, before I get to that,

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Speaker 1: And maybe I'm missing something, but a lot of times

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Speaker 1: I seek Ingram's big play on crossing routes and things

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Speaker 1: you guys seen any of that. Given the practice, I

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Speaker 1: in Ingram's routes. Remember he's missed a bunch of practices

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Speaker 1: you know, he's just looking like Evan Ingram. I haven't

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Speaker 1: half of the advantage that he brings to the table, exactly.

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Speaker 1: fall into a fifteen year pattern here like we did

430
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Speaker 1: back in the sixties ball, sixties and seventies. You know,

431
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 1: I mean, we gotta I mean, we we got to

432
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Speaker 1: settle that quarterback situation. Let me you know, one thing,

433
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Speaker 1: got one thing I did notice, Um they were you know,

434
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 1: Rossaus was out there kicking. Jeez, you could hear the

435
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 1: ball come off his foot. I mean, it's a damn explosion. Unbelievable,

436
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: how strong that legas and you know, when they were

437
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: warm enough a kicking, you know, for kicking field goals.

438
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Speaker 1: It was kind of interesting. Lawrence was actually the right

439
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: guard next to Diasse. Now, you know, here we are

440
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: in trainee camp and so forth, and I don't know

441
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Speaker 1: what that means the long term, but you know, you

442
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 1: got your you got your seven teens picking the draft,

443
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 1: playing rank guard on the field goal team. I don't

444
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: think there's anybody going to come through that, you know that,

445
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 1: But I wonder if that's going to be a permanent thing.

446
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: The other thing that I thought was interesting on that

447
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: same team, Soldier switch sides. Soldier went to the right

448
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: side instead of being on the left side. Again, we're

449
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Speaker 1: in trainee camps, six practice, seven practice, whatever. A lot

450
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Speaker 1: of things can change. But I thought those were those

451
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: were a couple of things that were really uh, you know,

452
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Speaker 1: you know, really pretty interesting, and I share coaches, you know,

453
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Speaker 1: concerned about wide receiver. I don't know, you know, some

454
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Speaker 1: guys are just gonna have to step up. Um. But hey, listen,

455
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I missed it. It's always a great show

456
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Speaker 1: up there, and uh, you know it's this this Giants

457
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 1: team we were. We got to see a lot of

458
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: surprises from some of these guys. But I'm staying optimistic.

459
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: Let me let me say one of the things, you know,

460
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: the hand you know, the hand out that they gave

461
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Speaker 1: us when we went in with the roster on it,

462
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Speaker 1: which obviously is invaluable. I mean, the thing is, you

463
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: can't tell anything, you know, with so many guys on

464
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Speaker 1: with ninety guys on the roster um outside of number eight,

465
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Speaker 1: number ten, and twenty six with Barkley, but uh, you

466
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: know you need something like this. But you know, Lance, Um,

467
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Speaker 1: I was looking at this thing pretty closely from the

468
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Speaker 1: weight standpoint, and I was happy to see um that

469
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Speaker 1: they had Baker at a hundred eighty nine pounds. You know,

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Speaker 1: he was one ninety two at the Combine, he was

471
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Speaker 1: one eight five at Georgia. He was he's one ninety

472
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Speaker 1: one eighty on our website on the Giants Not Com website,

473
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Speaker 1: and I thought to said, jeez, that's awfully small. But

474
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Speaker 1: they got him listed at one, one nine and man

475
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Speaker 1: Evan Brown has put on a lot of weight, which

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Speaker 1: I think needed. You know, let's let's not look past

477
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Speaker 1: seven Brown. I think that Kevin Brown was on the

478
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Speaker 1: roster last year, and think about it, if they need

479
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Speaker 1: a swing guard or an extra center, depending on how

480
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Speaker 1: the competition plays out. Yeah, I think. I don't think

481
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Speaker 1: if you're gonna keep a guy on a fifty three

482
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Speaker 1: if you don't think he can play, and uh, I

483
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Speaker 1: think he. I think Brown is one of those guys

484
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Speaker 1: that that falls into that situation. But I was I

485
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: was glad to say that some of those guys had

486
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Speaker 1: put on some some weight and I think, I think

487
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Speaker 1: with Brown it's going to help him, you know, possibly

488
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Speaker 1: to make this team. I appreciate the phone call. Was

489
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Speaker 1: put on the most power and in bulk since last

490
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Speaker 1: year is Lorenzo Carter. Uh. He has put on I

491
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Speaker 1: believe it's like eleven or twelve pounds of flood out

492
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Speaker 1: power because he realized that that would be a bigger

493
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Speaker 1: part of his game this year as he tries to

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Speaker 1: do more attacking of the line of scrimmage. Uh. And

495
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: also Spencer Pulley, as I have alluded to on the

496
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Speaker 1: show many times before, has put on a bit more

497
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Speaker 1: than ten pounds of muscle as well in his upper body.

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Speaker 1: Those two guys come to mind immediately as too gentlemen

499
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: who have bulked up, so to speak, because they wanted

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Speaker 1: to become more powerful. Well, Kevin Zeidler doesn't have to

501
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: bulk up because he's a little chiseled machine. So I

502
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: think that's one guy that we don't need to break

503
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: down and dissect the height. He is the incredible Hulk

504
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: because he's absolutely He was actually out in the media

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Speaker 1: session today with his sleeves cut off again and boy,

506
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Speaker 1: quite a physical specimen. Actually, he's more like Ben Grimm.

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Speaker 1: It's dram okay. On that note, I think we'll head

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Speaker 1: back to the phone lines at two zero, one, four

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Speaker 1: or five point three. I didn't know we were bringing

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Speaker 1: Marvel Comics alive on today's program. You never know what

511
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Speaker 1: you get on Big Blue Kick Off Live hashtag Giants

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Speaker 1: chat on Twitter. Kyle is in Atlanta, Kyle, welcome a board.

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Speaker 1: What do you have for us? Hey, guys, appreciate you

514
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Speaker 1: taking my call. I know it's never your favorite thing

515
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: when callers talk about bringing back former Giants, but with

516
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: the receiver situation um going on, I just always you

517
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: really wish that they would take another look at Tavaris King. Um.

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Speaker 1: Just I'm myself a big Georgia fan, so I was

519
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: always real biased, you know, towards him, but he always

520
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: seemed super consistent. And you know, in that Packers playoff game,

521
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: he was the only one, only one of the receivers

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Speaker 1: that did anything. And I never really thought he would

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Speaker 1: be a one or two, but I I thought he

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00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: would be a perfect fit for a three or four

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00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: for the team, and especially now with so many people

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Speaker 1: going down. So just wondering if he got that name.

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Speaker 1: Thoughts about him, Well, Tavares King was with the Vikings

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Speaker 1: last year. Two things that are important to note with him.

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Speaker 1: Keep in mind King was here with the old regime.

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Speaker 1: And you know, when we talk about potentially bringing back players,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that you're guilty for doing this.

532
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: Wasn't a lot of people like to play this game, Kyle.

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Speaker 1: But he has no ties to Dave Gentleman. Okay, he

534
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: may have had ties to Jerry Reye. He may have

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00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: ties to Ben McAdoo, he has no ties to Sherman,

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Speaker 1: has no ties to Gentleman. So I think we got

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Speaker 1: to be careful and we say bringing back players if

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00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: you still had the same GM, the same coach, and

539
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: they had familiarity with that player, I understand the cause.

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00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 1: The other thing with King was and Paul we saw

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Speaker 1: this sometimes where special teams came into play when it

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Speaker 1: came to the fifty three man roster, even the forty

543
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: six man roster, and you would not have him active

544
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Speaker 1: because of the concern of whether or not he can

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Speaker 1: contribute on special teams. So that's also a factor in

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Speaker 1: how they play out the wide receiver game. So those

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Speaker 1: are two things that I think are important. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think Tavaris King when he was

549
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Speaker 1: here was a productive wide receiver. I think he was

550
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Speaker 1: a valuable veteran in the mix. But I also think

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Speaker 1: that the Giants are moving forward, They're looking to develop

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Speaker 1: some of the young guys, and they already have a

553
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Speaker 1: lot of veterans in house, such as Russell Shepard and

554
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Speaker 1: Cody Latimer, as well as t J. Jones who they

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00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: just added in. So I don't know, if Tavaris King,

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Speaker 1: another veteran like that is a huge necessity at this

557
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Speaker 1: stage of what the roster looks like. He is currently

558
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Speaker 1: a free agent, and the last item that I can

559
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: find on him is that he did have a leg

560
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Speaker 1: injury when the Vikings let him go early last season

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Speaker 1: in October, and I don't have any details on what

562
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Speaker 1: that was or how that may still affect his ability

563
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Speaker 1: to play, because remember something, his number one facet was

564
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: speed vertical, and you know, if that leg injury has

565
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: taken off a couple of ticks from his his forty time,

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Speaker 1: that's a big deal. Well, and here's the other thing

567
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: you mentioned. He's a vertical threat. Now, I know Darius

568
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: Sladen is still dealing with the hamstring injury. But you know,

569
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Speaker 1: this gets back to do you want to bring in

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Speaker 1: a guy in camp that's gonna then take away reps

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Speaker 1: from the true vertical threat who you figure you're gonna

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Speaker 1: build your receiving corps around. You know, that's the other

573
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Speaker 1: game that I think you need to play, And I

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Speaker 1: don't think and appreciate the phone call, Kyle, Thanks so

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00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: much for weighing in, And it's certainly a fair question

576
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: and a familiar name to Giants fans as I see

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Speaker 1: the roster right now, listen to the Giants need a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver to step up Paul Absolutely from a volume

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Speaker 1: standpoint and numbers game, I think they're okay right now

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Speaker 1: with who they brought in. I I don't think they're

581
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Speaker 1: in dire need of And they don't bring in another

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Speaker 1: body to play wide receiver, oh, they're gonna be in

583
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: massive trouble here moving forward. I have a slightly different

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Speaker 1: take on this. And you're without Corey Coleman, who's lost

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Speaker 1: for the season the a c L injury. I don't

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Speaker 1: see a speed demon amongst the wide receivers unless uh

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Speaker 1: Slayton but Able is able to get on the field

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Speaker 1: and produce right away. He's been nursing a hamstring injury

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Speaker 1: that we don't know he's out indefinitely. We we don't

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Speaker 1: know what he's gonna be able to practice again. Remember

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Speaker 1: when Oldell Beckham got to the Giants as a rookie,

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Speaker 1: he had a hamstring injury and across the half of

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Speaker 1: a season, basically you know, by the time he could

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Speaker 1: really get into the flow. I mean, even though he

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Speaker 1: was active in the first couple of games, they were

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Speaker 1: trying to get. But my point is we don't know

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Speaker 1: how long Slayton is going to be out of the lineup,

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Speaker 1: and I think we both agree his upside is pretty high.

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00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: I mean, from the moment he got here, when he

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Speaker 1: had some drops these issues, like he did it all burned,

601
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: he continued to improve and impress the coaching staff to

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Speaker 1: where by the end of minicamp they were raving about it.

603
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Speaker 1: And so the sooner that he can get himself healthy

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Speaker 1: and then this and become part of this wide receiver rotation,

605
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: the sooner the Giants will have the answer to that

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00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: missing link that is the speed demon in the core.

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Speaker 1: Right now, they don't have another one. That concerns me

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00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: because if his injury injury lingers or should continue to

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00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,719
Speaker 1: aggravate itself over the course of time and he has

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Speaker 1: to sit down, there's not another speed demon on this

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Speaker 1: receiving corps. So I would be very carefully scanning the

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Speaker 1: wire to see over the course of the next month,

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Speaker 1: if another speed demon comes free, he gets on waivers,

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00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: to your point, is released. There's always a possibility. They

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Speaker 1: claim six guys. Remember last year before the three man

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Speaker 1: roster was finalized, so it wouldn't surprise me if the

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Speaker 1: Giants make a few transactions after cut day on August

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Speaker 1: thirty one. And also keep in mind they didn't really

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Speaker 1: have a speed demon last season on the roster, because

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Speaker 1: let's face it, most of the veterans that are on

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Speaker 1: the team right now we're on the team last year

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Speaker 1: and none of them were necessarily speeding. Was a speed

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Speaker 1: demon well okay, but outside of Oldell Beckham I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: But the point is you have to have one in

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00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: your rotation. You can't go into a game without any.

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00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: That's not a good idea. Now you know you can

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Speaker 1: do it, it's just not a great idea. I mean,

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Speaker 1: just New England have a speed demon. The New England

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Speaker 1: Patriots have a speed demon. I don't know what their

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Speaker 1: forty times are right now on the wide receiver depth.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I get, I understand you want versatility. I

632
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: don't disagree with you. I don't think it's a huge

633
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Speaker 1: necessity because remember it's all about the effectiveness of that speed.

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Speaker 1: Could be, no question, very fast, and he may not

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Speaker 1: be able to catch the football. I may not be

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00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: able to take advantage of that. So to me, it's

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Speaker 1: more of them getting a core that can execute and

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00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: run the offense efficiently. I think that's what they need

639
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: to do with this stage. And I'm looking at if

640
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: you want to play the numbers game at the wide

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Speaker 1: receiver spot, I think they're right now leaning probably towards

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Speaker 1: keeping six. I mean, based on what's happening. I agree

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Speaker 1: with that. So if Golden Tate starts out on the

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Speaker 1: suspended list, he doesn't count against the six. But let's

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Speaker 1: just real quickly before we get back to phone calls. Okay,

646
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Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd, I think obviously is a safe bet that

647
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Speaker 1: he will be a part of that group. We're not

648
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Speaker 1: telling you anything. You don't know. Russell Shepherd and Cody

649
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Speaker 1: Latimer I think are very strong candidates to be in

650
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Speaker 1: that group. Darius Layton, I think that brings us to four.

651
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Speaker 1: Betty Fowler. Okay, that's five, and now the final spot,

652
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Speaker 1: Alonso Russell, t J. Jones, Brittan Golden Amba at a towel.

653
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Speaker 1: Russell has I think made some strides. Ty Tiber talked

654
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Speaker 1: about he needs to continue to improve on special teams,

655
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Speaker 1: but he's made players during practice. I think time will

656
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Speaker 1: tell whether or not that transfers over to the preseason.

657
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: T J. Jones just got here, but T. J. Jones

658
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Speaker 1: is approven veteran and Golden also was a veteran that's

659
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Speaker 1: been with the Arizona Cardinals, unfortunately dealing with the groin

660
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Speaker 1: injury right now. So you know, that's six spot is

661
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: certainly up for grabs. And I should also mention Reggie

662
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Speaker 1: White Jr. The undrafted player out of Vonmouth, is another

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Speaker 1: guy in the mix. So you know they have bodies,

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Speaker 1: they have players that are gonna have an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: step up. I think what they do in the preseason

666
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Speaker 1: is really going to separate maybe one individual from the

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00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: rest of the pack at this point. Again, I think

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Speaker 1: that it's important to have a speed demon who can

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Speaker 1: at least pose a threat. The last thing you want

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Speaker 1: if you're the Giants is to have all of these

671
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Speaker 1: weapons but have defenses able to suffocate your guys because

672
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: they're all gonna play up and they're all going to

673
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Speaker 1: cheat up because they don't think that you have anybody

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Speaker 1: who can beat them deep. That's that's a recipe for disaster,

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Speaker 1: and that's fair. And I think though part of that

676
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Speaker 1: equation is going back to one of the earliest calls

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Speaker 1: we got about using Evan ingram as somewhat of a

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Speaker 1: vertical threat and getting him down the field a little

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Speaker 1: bit more, and then maybe that changes how the defense

680
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Speaker 1: winds up attacking you. So that's another way to counter

681
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Speaker 1: that while Golden Tate is sidelines. All right, let's head

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Speaker 1: back to the phone lines. Let's check in with Brandon

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Speaker 1: in New York as we move forward here on Big

684
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Speaker 1: Blue Kick Off Life. What's happening Brandon? Hey, what's took guys?

685
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Speaker 1: How's everything going to the doing? All right? Do you

686
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: for us? All? All right? Just two things to say

687
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Speaker 1: before I finished off for a question that I can

688
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Speaker 1: take off air on one, I personally want to thank

689
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Speaker 1: you guys, Lance, Pali Dutt, uh, Mr Jeff Fiagels and

690
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: U of course Mr John. You guys actually helped me

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Speaker 1: get through my day at work and help me get

692
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Speaker 1: to my traffic from home every day. So thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for very and thank you thank you as

694
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: well for you guys have also taught me a lot

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Speaker 1: about the sport. I've been a big fan since I

696
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: was born in honestly, but I've never got into the

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Speaker 1: actual you know, like uh, I don't know, actually understanding

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Speaker 1: it rather than just watching it. My dad's a huge fan, um,

699
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: and it all started from him, UM quick, really really

700
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Speaker 1: quick him. He freaking has I think the best story

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Speaker 1: to tell out of all giant fans. He's a huge

702
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: giant fan. And my sister his firstborn daughter, born right

703
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: after they win the Super Bowl January twenty. That's some

704
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: crazy stuff. Really jealous, but the air really quickly. UM

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Speaker 1: after this, I just want to know. I know you

706
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: guys are getting constantly um at. You guys are constantly asked, UM,

707
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Speaker 1: what are the chances that Daniel Jones starts Week one,

708
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Speaker 1: which I think is ridiculous, or if he will even

709
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Speaker 1: play this year? I honestly want to think what you

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Speaker 1: guys think. It would be crazy that we would see

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones in a situation maybe week one if they're

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Speaker 1: let's say third and two, third and one trying to

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Speaker 1: run r P O. And I'll take that off the one.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, guys, really appreciate you, and I'll continue listening.

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Speaker 1: You got a friend, appreciate the phone call, Thick. The easy,

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Speaker 1: simple answer is absolutely not. I do not foresee that.

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Speaker 1: I do not foresee them using Daniel Jones is Taysom

718
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Speaker 1: Hill operates with New Orleans, and based on your giggling, Paul,

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming that you're in alignement with my feeling. What

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Speaker 1: do you think? Well, I like, I guess right, that's

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Speaker 1: what I think. And I think your silence and the

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Speaker 1: chuckling answers it right there. Daniel J nice of the

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Speaker 1: caller to to present a scenario that that needed clarification,

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Speaker 1: and I think we've done so. Yes, I think that

725
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: there's plenty of other guys on the roster that he

726
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: could utilize, by the way, in a third and two scenario,

727
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: that they don't have to go and try to sacrifice

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Speaker 1: their future quarterback onto those circumstances. Let's head back to

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Speaker 1: the phone lines. Jason is in Charlotte. Jason, Welcome the

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Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff Live. What do you got for us? So,

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Speaker 1: the two potential trade partners that I was thinking of

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Speaker 1: in both are Cincinnati Bengals. D J. Green has shelf

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Speaker 1: with an injury, but he might be back before Golden Cake.

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Speaker 1: And um John Ross is that speed demon and he

735
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Speaker 1: who fell in a favor with Sinse and he hasn't

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Speaker 1: done much, but he uh have a lot of potential

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Speaker 1: to blow the top of offense here or a defense uh,

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Speaker 1: take it up here and see what you guys think

739
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: about those too. Well, first of all, Ross is hurt.

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Speaker 1: He's got a hamstring thing and he's going to be

741
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Speaker 1: out for at least a couple of weeks. It's hurt again. Okay,

742
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Speaker 1: make sure you use the term again when when John

743
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Speaker 1: Ross is healthy, it will be a first But anyway,

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Speaker 1: go ahead and continue. No, I I mean that's my

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Speaker 1: first thought. And and the other thought is a j

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00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: Creen's not going anywhere. They're not gonna give up by far,

747
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Speaker 1: their best wide receiver on the roster. They just gave

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Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd an extension. The goal is to have those

749
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Speaker 1: two guys healthy and provide a one to punch with

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Speaker 1: Joe Mixon out of the backfield. John Ross, the caller

751
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: mentioned potential, but once again, what good are you if

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Speaker 1: you can't stay on the field. And John Ross has

753
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Speaker 1: not proven any of that. So I'd rather take my

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Speaker 1: chances with an undrafted guy who knows my system that

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Speaker 1: taking a flyer and giving up valuable assets, even if

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Speaker 1: it's a late round pick, to see whether or not

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Speaker 1: John Ross can pan out. And also, you know, the

758
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 1: whole point is the Giants want to build the receiving

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Speaker 1: corps that can operate either around Eli Manning in the

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Speaker 1: short term or Daniel Jones down the road. In fairness,

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Speaker 1: A J. Green is a polished veteran who is now

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Speaker 1: entering the second tier of his career. Why would you

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00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: want again give up valuable assets for a guy that

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00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: is going to be entering the decline, not necessarily the

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Speaker 1: prime of his career. It just doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 1: See in light of the Baseball trading deadline today, when

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Speaker 1: he said he had some trades he wanted to propose,

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Speaker 1: I thought he was talking about the Yankees. Trevor Bower

769
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Speaker 1: is no longer an option as we carve out a

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Speaker 1: little time to break down the wheeling and dealing on

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Speaker 1: the diamond. Yeah, it was in theme to your point

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Speaker 1: with the Baseball trade deadline, but I just don't see

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Speaker 1: that those are reasonable trade partners, specifically the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 1: And let's face it, if the Bengals are looking for anything,

775
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: they're looking for actually whiteouts. They're not looking for draft picks.

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00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: They need help. At this point, they're losing those guys.

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00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: They're dropping like flies. Also, Tyler Eifford, by the ways,

778
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Speaker 1: on that team, the tight end who has struggled to

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Speaker 1: stay healthy. Before we go back to the phones, I

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Speaker 1: just want to mention a sad note that has come

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Speaker 1: across Twitter, I guess in the last couple of hours.

782
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Speaker 1: Nick Bonicani, the Hall of Fame linebacker from the famous

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Miami Minnesota, famous Miami Dolphins team times under Don Shula,

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Speaker 1: passed away today. And you know, I know he's had

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Speaker 1: some health problems in recent times. And for those young

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Speaker 1: folks who don't remember what an outstanding player that he was,

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00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: and he certainly was was the heart and soul of

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Speaker 1: that defense. Uh. He then became with Lynn Dawson, the

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Speaker 1: two figureheads for Inside the NFL on HBO for twenty

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Speaker 1: years almost, you know, and that was a program which

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Speaker 1: was so critically important if you love the National Football League,

792
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: because you know, NFL Network didn't exists in those days,

793
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, yes, there was still ESPN, but

794
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 1: they would go in depth and they'd have great feature

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Speaker 1: interviews and they'd have some of the best NFL films,

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Speaker 1: footage and the miked up stuff, and it was just

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00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: it was a very important part of your week as

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00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: an NFL fan, you know, twenty years ago to know

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Speaker 1: that Inside the NFL is coming in on HB, coming

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Speaker 1: on on HBO, and you could listen Lennie Dawson and

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Speaker 1: Nick Bonecani, and they were just real guys who not

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00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: only played the game, but could relate to every guy

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00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: sitting on his sofa. They really made it simple for

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00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: you and and wanted you to know that as a fan,

805
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: you mattered and that this game was being played for you.

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Speaker 1: And so just condolences to the Bonecanti family, friends and

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Speaker 1: and all the former Dolphins or teammates and people in

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Speaker 1: the organization who came into contact with him, because he

809
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 1: was certainly a real personality and a benefit to national

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. Jerry Glanville, former head coach of

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Speaker 1: the Falcons, also contributed to Inside the NFL. Yes, we

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Speaker 1: had Bonecanti and Dawson, and he added a little bit

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Speaker 1: more color to that program. But you're right, I think

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Speaker 1: I will say this about Bonacanti. I think his NFL

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Speaker 1: career is actually a really small part in my opinion,

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00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: of the true impact that he's had on society. Well,

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00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: consider the medical stuff, what he did in terms of

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Speaker 1: research urch and funding for his son, who unfortunately was

819
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: paralyzed in a circumstance that played out during his collegiate career.

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Speaker 1: For him to dedicate his life to finding a cure

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Speaker 1: to paralysis speaks volumes of him as an individual. He

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Speaker 1: was an attorney, he was a broadcaster, as you brought up. Now,

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Speaker 1: there are many different areas to his impact and his life.

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Speaker 1: Very little known fact after the nineteen eighty three season,

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Speaker 1: Bonakani was part of a group that actually considered buying

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants. I did not know that it

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00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: did not it did not happen. Okay, it did not happen,

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Speaker 1: but he was part of a consortium who was was

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Speaker 1: in possible discussions for for making a purchase and uh,

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Speaker 1: never did happen. But certainly interesting and by the way,

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Speaker 1: on a side note, before we return to the phone lines,

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Speaker 1: if you have not seen the documentary The Many Lives

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00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: of Nick Bona Conti on HBO, I, I highly advise

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Speaker 1: anybody that hasn't to take a look at that because

835
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Speaker 1: it really is your retrospect of his entire life, but

836
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Speaker 1: but also what he had to deal with in the

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Speaker 1: years leading up to unfortunately his passing today at the

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Speaker 1: age of seventy eight. Because you know, he was starting

839
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Speaker 1: to feel the true effects of his football. Yes, and

840
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: let me make clear when I say bye, I'm talking

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00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: about by a portion of the Giants. They weren't going

842
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: to buy out the Mara family. That's never going to happen. Okay,

843
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: I don't want to mislead anybody, but there was a

844
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 1: group that wanted to buy a piece of the Giants,

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Speaker 1: and Bonacani was part of that big Blue Kickoff Live

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Speaker 1: Wednesday's edition. So glad you could tune in. He's pulled

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Speaker 1: the tino onm lance Meadow. It's all presented by coreps

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Speaker 1: Light two zero one five one three is the telephone number.

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Speaker 1: Let's check in. Unfortunately, what Charlie and Portland, Maine. Charlie,

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00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: what's happening all right? Charlie? Hey Paul, Hey Lance, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I got out of my bunker, so my phone should

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Speaker 1: be working now. Wow, that's good enough. Actually, I'm just

853
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: happy to hear that actually decided to pay your phone

854
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: bill today, which is positive step in the right direction

855
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 1: for you. Okay, Hey, I just want to say about

856
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: bonac he was I mean, he was a small all

857
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: guy and he wasn't a big linebacker, but he was

858
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: tough and he played smart and he played fast, especially

859
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: at that time he was a pretty fast linebacker. So um, yeah,

860
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: he was a great guy, a great player, but more

861
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: he was a great man for what he did and

862
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: um what he pursued. And he had a big heart.

863
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: So I appreciate that. Paul um. Hey, I want to

864
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: say that Wesley is out of pop. He is. Actually

865
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: he passed his physical Now that when he was in

866
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: a northern Colorado state, he was actually a deep threat.

867
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: He was the guy who flew down the field and

868
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: made play. You got a lot of touchdown So don't

869
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: count this guy out as the guy who can open

870
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: up the defense and uh, you know, be the guy

871
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 1: who's going to be sprunning down the field. Well let's

872
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: just say this right now, Charlie. He's quite a bit behind,

873
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: you know, the other guys, being that he was on

874
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: up and and I don't know how quickly he is

875
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: going to get his share of the reps now that

876
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: he's just able to come back. Um, certainly he's behind

877
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: the eight Bowl. Does that mean it's impossible, No, it

878
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: does not. I mean, for all we know, he'll go

879
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: out there and have four terrific preseason games and steal

880
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: a spot on the roster. I'm not going to deny

881
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: the man's opportunity, but I think if you're gonna, if

882
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna bank some high hopes on him, uh, he's

883
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: probably one of the more how should we say, realistic

884
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: underdogs or unrealistic underdogs who could earn a spot. He's

885
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: got a lot of hurdles to overcome. You know, you

886
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: mentioned you enjoyed watching him at Northern Colorado State. Personally,

887
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: I really liked watching him at Northern Colorado. I didn't

888
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: know that there was another Colorado State, but you know

889
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: what the videotape that you saw, Charlie, I didn't know

890
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: Northern Colorado State had a football program. But I'm just

891
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: very happy to hear that they've put up the structures

892
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 1: in the stadium is ready to go. Well, I mean, listen,

893
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: sometimes you bring new things to life. Here on a

894
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 1: check things, Lance, you love to look at the computer.

895
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: So there you go to Charlie's credit. Okay, Charlie, I

896
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: want to give you credited amount of credit. Okay, I'm

897
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna call Lance off for just a minute.

898
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: This is a guy who, over the last couple of

899
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: years of his career in college averaged over eighteen yards

900
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: of catch, so so so he did put up production

901
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: at that level and that's undeniable. Yeah, and hey, do

902
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: they ever you know, like I know, we brought a

903
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: bunch of wide receivers in and we ended up with

904
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: Jones and and the other guy that we had. You

905
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: say it with such enthusiasm, by the way, but go ahead, yeah, continued,

906
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 1: Do they ever, you know, say who they brought in?

907
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: Can't they just come to lift and just say what

908
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: are they c I A, we can't know who they

909
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: brought into work out? Well, I mean, what good is

910
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: it going to necessarily know if you know the seven

911
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: or eight other guys Let's say hypothetically that they brought

912
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: in to me they passed. Yeah, but no, but no,

913
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: but see that here's why, here's why there's no benefit

914
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: of releasing that list. Okay, and ty Talbert, Actually, I

915
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: thought was very insightful on this. You weren't at the workout, Charlie,

916
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: So I could give you a list of eight guys

917
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: and you tell me I recognized five of the names.

918
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: I like these? Why didn't they signed them? For all

919
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: we know they weren't delivering during the workout Because tight

920
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: Tibert was pressed upon who else was at the workout,

921
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: not that he was revealing, and he said, t J.

922
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: Jones and Amba at a Towel had a very good workout,

923
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: and we signed the two guys who we thought were

924
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: going to immediately make an impact, and the minute they

925
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: got on the practice field deliver. So once again, if

926
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: I give you a list of five guys, you may

927
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: know the names, but you weren't at the workout, so

928
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: who's to say that they lived up to the name,

929
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: also said Lance. He also said that everyone we brought

930
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: in had really good work he did. That's correct, that's fair, Okay,

931
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 1: had better workouts, and those are the guys who were signed.

932
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: You have to understand something. This isn't a casting call

933
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: for a Hollywood movie where name value gets the job. Okay,

934
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: that's not the way it goes that. They just say, hey,

935
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: we brought in this guy, that guy, this guy, and

936
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: what purpose, what purpose. I'm gonna be fair with you, Charlie,

937
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: what purpose does that serve except give you agita at

938
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 1: night over the names who they did not sign. Right,

939
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: It's good to know, Okay, not good to know because

940
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: you want to complain about the guys that they didn't

941
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: sign he just Charlie, tell me, tell me who I

942
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: think Wesley? Watch Wesley because of the Slayer is layer Sladen.

943
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: You know they're all the same. But anyway, go ahead.

944
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: But I mean, if he still has the problem with

945
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: his hands, dring, you know, that could give this guy

946
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: an opportunity to show what he can do. I would

947
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: be surprised if Slayton does not stick somehow. I mean,

948
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: even if the hand he doesn't come along, right, they'll

949
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: del i arm or something. It's not like Slayton's gonna

950
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: go away. I believe they drafted him with purpose and

951
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 1: conviction that he's gonna be here in the building. Whether

952
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: or not he's active or not depends on how to

953
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: hamstring a response. But but don't think that Wesley is

954
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 1: gonna beat Slaton out for a spot unless Slayton simply

955
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: can't physically perform right. Well, I agree with you, Paul.

956
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: We need a deep threat. We got to open up

957
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: the defense. So they have to, you know, send two

958
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: guys chasing this guy down the field will open everything

959
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: up for Barkley. If we don't have that guy, just

960
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: what you said is going to happen. They're going to

961
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: cover everything, and it's gonna be harder to run our

962
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: offense that way. So we gotta have some guy out

963
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: there who can run. And you know, even a guy

964
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: like Ron Dixon if you remember years ago, you know

965
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: he wasn't wasn't the most accomplished guy, but he provided

966
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: that speedy threat that forced their defense to play. You honest,

967
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: the guy doesn't have to be a great player. He

968
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: just has to provide some necessary scare if you will,

969
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: into a defense, right. I agree, Hey, you know, I

970
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: just want to other question the guy that we you know,

971
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: the shot putter that we've got as you know, we're

972
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 1: you know, he's a project as a guard. Yeah, the lineman,

973
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: I know who you mean. Wouldn't this guy be great

974
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: if we just used him like a snack and just

975
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: put him in the nose tackle and just have him

976
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 1: stand everybody up. Wouldn't it be better as a defensive

977
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: tackle just to stop the run. It's in moments like

978
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: this that I want to just remind the New York

979
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: Giants fan base audience that it's a good thing that

980
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: Charlie is not an assistant coach on the New York

981
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: Giants coaching staff. And there's a reason that they allowed

982
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: true professionals to make decided to be a garden it

983
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: is to be a defensive test. Well, you would know

984
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: because you played both positions, Charlie. So if anybody knows,

985
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: I mean clearly, it's you, Charlie Austin. Austin Jogs has

986
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: limited football experience as it is, and now you want

987
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: to put him in an unfamiliar spot by putting him

988
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: on defense. Of course, why would you do that? You

989
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: just tell them just don't let anybody through. Just okay,

990
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: get the guy with the ball. Sounds like a great plan. Hey, Charlie,

991
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: By the way, before we let you go on a

992
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: much more important note, I have a big issue that

993
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: I want to bring up here on social media with you.

994
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: You responded to a few of us on Twitter calling

995
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: for the Giants to sign a key mix, which is

996
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: irrelevant to this subject. But I found the fact that

997
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: you copied word for word a tweet from somebody else

998
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: and pasted it. I just here. You know, there are

999
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: certain standards on social media and Twitter, because we know

1000
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: that there is so much insight on that forum that

1001
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: you should be following journalistic standards when operating on that

1002
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: I do not want to see you copy and pay

1003
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: somebody else's hard working posts photos, okay and hashtags and

1004
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: just send it to us and then you take credit

1005
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: for it. That's on call. I just out there. I

1006
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: think they to bring it nixt to least see what

1007
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: he's got. Well, but all I'm well, and all I'm

1008
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: saying is you could have taken the link from somebody

1009
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: else's tweet and copy it in the paste in it.

1010
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: But you took the the easy way out because you

1011
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: wanted to take well you got. You have to hone

1012
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: your skills when it comes to social media, and we'll

1013
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: let you go. On that note, Charlie has always tremendous

1014
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 1: amount of insight out of Charlie Importland, Maine. So much

1015
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: to take away. What would you like to recap that

1016
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: phone call? No, but I would like to get to

1017
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 1: Twitter because there has been made to us this morning

1018
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 1: and I think it's very appropriate. A. J. Marshall h

1019
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: is mentioning that Corey Valentine, the rookie corner UH, continues

1020
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: to impress in training camp. He says, making a name

1021
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: for himself, whether it's an interception or a past breakup.

1022
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: A couple of things I want to say about Valentine.

1023
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: He is very quick, lanky, He's got some length. Yesterday

1024
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: he had inside leverage and came up with an interception

1025
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: down the left sideline which was very very sweet. It

1026
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: was on a ball that uh, I want to say

1027
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: lo letter through it was and um. The coaches were

1028
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: very pleased with him on that one. He also had

1029
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: a pass break up later on during the practice which

1030
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: was very impressive when he closed, anticipated and at the

1031
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: moment of contacted exactly what he had to do to

1032
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: knock the ball free. I think Fowler might have been

1033
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: the receiver. If I'm not mistaken, I think you may

1034
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: be right. So it was a really good day for

1035
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: Corey Balanchine Today. Coach Pat Shermer added that they may

1036
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: even consider using him on some kick returns. He is

1037
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: an exciting young man who has a lot of ability,

1038
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: who when he spoke to the media for the first

1039
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: time the other day since the tragic shooting incident that

1040
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: claimed the life of his best friend and also resulted

1041
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: in Valentine getting shot in the glue, I could not

1042
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: have been more impressed with this young man's demeanor, his maturity,

1043
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: his professionalism. Uh. He has had significant counseling from the

1044
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: Giants organization as well as friends and family members who

1045
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 1: have tried to bring him along to get past what

1046
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: was a horrific incident. He himself has said that he

1047
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: wants to make his best friend proud because his best

1048
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: friend was there every step of the way as he

1049
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: tried to make it into the pro ranks UH and

1050
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: the National Football League. And so he stopped short of

1051
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: saying I'm dedicating it to him, but he said, look,

1052
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: I owe it to him to go out there and

1053
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: to make this team and to have a pro career

1054
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: because he helped me every step of the way. He

1055
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 1: said he wasn't sure what he will do to honor

1056
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,720
Speaker 1: his friend, whether it will be something on his cleats

1057
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: or or a tattoo. He wasn't sure exactly what he

1058
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: would do. But he really seems as though he's got

1059
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: his head screwed on straight. He understands that the Giants

1060
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: have been patient with him and have done everything they

1061
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: can to extend him a helping hand to get through

1062
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: again a very difficult time. He appears right now, as

1063
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: far as I can see, on the practice field, to

1064
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Speaker 1: be a guy who was all business out there and

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Speaker 1: putting his best foot forward. And quite frankly, I know

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Speaker 1: it's very early and it's only been a few practices lands,

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Speaker 1: but I like his ups as a football player for sure,

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Speaker 1: as a man who impressed me with his character in

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Speaker 1: the interview the other day without question, and I'm rooting

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Speaker 1: for him. I'm going to tell you that right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm rooting for the kid. Well, we were talking about

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Speaker 1: Alex Wesley earlier, and I think Balantine's an example of

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Speaker 1: a guy who played catch up right because he fell behind.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't with the team. And I think little by

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Speaker 1: little he's getting that much more comfortable because when you

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Speaker 1: see him making plays like that Paul, and he even

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Speaker 1: spoke about this what you were referring to when he

1078
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Speaker 1: addressed the media recently, it's starting to slow down a

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Speaker 1: little bit because he has a better understanding of the defense.

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Speaker 1: The veterans have helped him out, and I think that

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Speaker 1: we're starting to now see the results of the hard

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Speaker 1: work that he's put in. You also brought up special teams.

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Speaker 1: By the way, it's important to note at Washburn he

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Speaker 1: was a key special teams player. He was, so you know,

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Speaker 1: it's not as if the Giants are now throwing him

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00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: into a scenario that he wasn't necessarily exposed to. They

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Speaker 1: just want to now tap into that. And I think

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Speaker 1: also part of it is if Golden Tate misses four games,

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Speaker 1: he would have been another option, by the way, as

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Speaker 1: a return guy in on special teams. You lost Corey Coleman,

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Speaker 1: Darius Slayed in his sideline Paul, he was also in

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Speaker 1: the return mix during the spring. All the more reason

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Speaker 1: to now introduce some new personnel in that department. He is, Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's a very intriguing prospect, to say the least, aside

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Speaker 1: from everything else we've just talked about. If you just

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Speaker 1: look at his physical skills, you know, he's he's got

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Speaker 1: terrific speed, and again he's got length, and he doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem to be overwhelmed at all by the deer and headlights. Look,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about a Division two player from Washburg. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I don't say I mean we say all the

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Speaker 1: times that you know a guy who's coming up from fcs.

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Speaker 1: For example, Ocean's Imminez comes up from Old Dominion. How

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00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: many people have said to you, always from a small school,

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Speaker 1: coming from a small program. I don't know how he's

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00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 1: gonna adjust to life in the big city, in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: in New York. Blah blah blah blah. Well, imagine what

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Speaker 1: what Corey Ballantine must be going through jumping from D

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00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: two Washburn to the New York Football Giants. You're talking

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00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: about a hercule lean step. And I didn't sense that

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Speaker 1: he was nervous about it one bit. Well, the Giants

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Speaker 1: have added a few players from smaller programs. Michael Strahan

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Speaker 1: is a guy that I think comes to mind Texas Southern.

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Speaker 1: So there you go. And even but that is at

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Speaker 1: least still the one. No, I get that, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not trying to make a Parson. I guess my point is,

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Speaker 1: though this is D two depends on though. But see,

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Speaker 1: that's why it speaks volumes Paul of the work he's

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Speaker 1: put in and the understanding of the scheme, because when

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Speaker 1: you can make that type of a leap. And here's

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Speaker 1: the other thing I remember, because I had Corey Ballantine

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Speaker 1: on my serious x M NFL radio show during the

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Speaker 1: draft process, Paul, and one of the things that I

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Speaker 1: was talking to him about was, you know, when did

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Speaker 1: it start to register? Hey, you know what, just because

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Speaker 1: I played at a lower level conference doesn't mean that

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Speaker 1: I can't hang with the big boys. And you know

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Speaker 1: what he said when he went to the Senior Bowl

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Speaker 1: and he started going up against wide receivers that were

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Speaker 1: from the top notch programs and he was able to

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Speaker 1: hang with them, he said, Hey, you know what, I

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00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: belong here. I can be in this mix. So then

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Speaker 1: you start to build confidence, Paul. And now I think

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Speaker 1: his confidence is such a high rate that he's remembering

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Speaker 1: how he succeeded the Senior Bowl when he lined up

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Speaker 1: as those wide receivers. So it's really nothing different than

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Speaker 1: and once again another piece of evidence that indicates the

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Speaker 1: week of practices at the Senior Bowl against the elite

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Speaker 1: seniors in n C double A football is much more

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Speaker 1: telling and valuable than the combine. Yeah, because that's also

1140
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Speaker 1: when the coaches are paying close attention to notice a

1141
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: lot of them don't stay for the game because they're

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Speaker 1: more concerned about your work ethic during practice and your

1143
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: one on one battle. So I think that says a

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Speaker 1: lot as well. All Right, that is gonna wrap up

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Speaker 1: Wednesday's edition of Big Blue Kickoff Live. Certainly appreciate everybody

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Speaker 1: for tuning in the coolers as well. Even Charlie wants

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Speaker 1: in a blue moon for a few chuckles. It's all

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Speaker 1: about MSG tonight once again, Training Camp Live six thirty

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Speaker 1: to seven thirty tonight on MSG Networks and of course

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Speaker 1: all right, that is gonna do it for us once again.

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Speaker 1: Thanks everybody for tuning in for Paul Tatino. I'm Lance Meadow.

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