1 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to favor Protection of My Heart Radio. 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: I'm Annie Reese and I'm Lauren Vogelbaum, and today we 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: have an episode for you about Rosemary. Yes, yeah, oh 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: I take it. I take it by that tone that 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: you also love a rosemary. I do love a rosemary. Um. 6 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: It is one of my very favorite Star Wars drinks 7 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: that I've created over this Actually, excuse me, Samantha over 8 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: at stuff on you created this strik heck. Yeah, okay. 9 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: It's kind of a French seventy five but with a 10 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: BlackBerry rosemary muddle kind of and then a strig of 11 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: rosemary garnish. That sounds yeah, that sounds really nice. Yeah, 12 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: it's the tattooing sunset. Very good. Um. But one of 13 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: my primary memories is like when I was in college 14 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: and I was you know that you had those tiny 15 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: on the hall of the one kitchen and my roommate 16 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 1: we had a bunch of mishaps in that one kitchen, 17 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: and one of the mishaps was we put way too 18 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: much rosemary and something, but we were also both way 19 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: too cheap to throw it away, just like they're like 20 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: fine sault loving this. Yeah essentially yeah, um, And Also, 21 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: my family used to go biking Rosemary Dunes, which I 22 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: believe it is. If it's not a National park, because 23 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: state park, it's something, um, and it's in Gulf Shores, Alabama, 24 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: and we've been doing it for years and years and years. 25 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: I think it took us approximately five years to figure 26 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: out that it was called Rosemary Dunes because there was 27 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: rosemary growing in the dunes, which is all sounded pretty right. 28 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: Sure you're like, oh, yes, Rosemary Dunes, and then you're like, oh, 29 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: those are dunes and they have rosemary and them cool. Yeah, 30 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: pretty straight to the pool. Right, Yeah, that's right right 31 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: what it says on the tin. I also love some rosemary. Um. 32 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: I I grow rosemary in my garden and forget that 33 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: I have it all the time. And uh, to be fair, 34 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: I my poor little scraggly rosemary plant is not doing 35 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: its very best. Uh. I'm not sure what to do 36 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: to make it better at this juncture. Uh, It's okay, 37 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: we're we're all. We're all a little scraggly these days, 38 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: to be honest. Truth. You know what can help with that? 39 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: Rosemary a very pleasant smell. It's strong. Though. This is 40 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: when people are like, are you okay, over at favor 41 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: five or five or five? Doing just all right? M 42 00:02:54,520 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: oh goodness, perhaps we should get to our could please 43 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: bring us to our question, Annie, I will allow it, 44 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: I will okay, all right. Rosemary? What is it? Well, 45 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: rosemary is a type of herb that grows on an 46 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: evergreen shrub that's perennial in temperate climates, meaning it does 47 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: not shed its leaves seasonally, and it will keep growing 48 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: year after year. It's a small leaves are deep green 49 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: on the top and white on the bottom for a 50 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: kind of silvery effect because it's it's partially rolled up 51 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: into these sort of pine needle like shapes. But but 52 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: they're a bit more tender than than pine needles. The 53 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: leaves are very fragrant. Yes, if you just brush up 54 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: against them, you'll come away with the scent. And that 55 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: scent and flavor is a woody and savory and piney 56 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: and a little lemony and a little pikeant um. It's 57 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: sort of like a it's sort of like being in 58 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: a in a pine forest on a on a on 59 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: a warm but crisp fall day. It's it's like a 60 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't write this one down. I'm not sure. 61 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what it's like. I feel like that 62 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: was pretty good. Does that? Does that cover it? It's 63 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: somehow both like warming and cooling. It's sort of you know, 64 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: it reminds me of cooler weather. Yeah, but I associate 65 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: it with more of a warm, warm foods and warming sensation. Sure. Yeah, 66 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: well it's it's got both them both. Some camphor in it, 67 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: which tends to be like a like a cooling sensation, 68 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: um oil in your mouth, and it also has some 69 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: of those right, like like like woody and lemony kind 70 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: of notes that we associate with like summer and uh 71 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: kind of like bright warming flavors, right, um so, so yeah, yeah, 72 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: it's it's both both at the same time. It's going like, 73 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: oh man, I wish I could eat a pine tree, 74 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: and then you did all good for you, you know 75 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: I immediately and like that sounds terrible for your teeth, 76 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: But do you want to eat a pine tree then 77 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: darn it. Yeah it's not. It's not a pine tree, 78 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: um uh it is. It is an herbal shrub. The 79 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: plant can grow up to about six ft that's two 80 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: meters tall, but it's more often around half that and 81 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: right yeah, yeah, really really kind of kind of scruffy um. 82 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: With these small leaves growing off of tall branching stalks, 83 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: it'll put off small clusters of flowers in white to pink, 84 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: to purple to blue, which when pollinated, will produce these 85 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: small seed pods that could be harvested to plant more rosemary. 86 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: With um. You can also grow new plants from cuttings. 87 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: As with many Mint family herbs, the botanical name is 88 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: Salvia rose mariness, which means it is distantly related to 89 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: lots of other herbs like sage, time and chia and 90 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: the right. It is in the mint family um lamiasi. 91 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: A rosemary, like many of its aromatic cousins, developed a 92 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: couple of really cool like growth and or defense mechanisms 93 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: along its evolutionary path um. One of those is that 94 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: the surface of each leaf, or rather a think like 95 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: the under surface, has these tiny hair like structures extending 96 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: out of it that are called tricombs, and these physically 97 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: prevent insects and microbes from reaching the surface of the 98 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: plant and eating it, which you know the plant doesn't 99 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: want them to do. Another of these mechanisms is that 100 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: it produces just a lot of oils that contain an 101 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: impressive density of compounds called terpenoids UM, which often act 102 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: as fungicides, insecticides and anti microbials UM. And those little tricombs, 103 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: the little hairs trap we globs of those oils on 104 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: the surface of the leaves UM, like like defensive water balloons. UM. 105 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: So if a microbe or an insect reaches through the hairs, 106 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: it's likely to get doused in these oils that are 107 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: not good for them. But we are a food show. UM. 108 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: Those oils that are toxic to pests and can even 109 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: put off some mammals from eating a plant are things 110 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: that we have decided taste and smell delicious. Indeed, you 111 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: can't stomp us. No, no, you just try rosemary. You 112 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: just try. Now that's a challenge. Oh no, um uh. Yes. 113 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: Around the world people put rosemary and all kinds of dishes. 114 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: It is most often paired with savory flavors, but is 115 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: sometimes added to sweet dishes or drinks to add like 116 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: a savory contrast in there. The leaves are the main 117 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: part of the plant that's used culinarily UM and can 118 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: be harvested by trimming off branches and just using them 119 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: a whole, just like laying them on top of meats 120 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: or vegetables as they roast, and letting the oils drip 121 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: on down, or in a bouquet garni, which is a 122 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: sort of bundle of herbs that you would steep in 123 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: soups and stews, or you can separate the leaves off 124 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: of the stems, chop them up fine, or dry them 125 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: out and grind them into a powder. Rosemary is a 126 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: common addition to meats like lamb and chicken and pork, um, 127 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: savory breads, root vegetables and potatoes, dairy condiments like butter 128 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: or goat, cheese, spreads or yogurt, anything that you're gonna 129 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: put lemon into. It goes pretty well with because it's 130 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: got some of the same flavor compounds in there. Um. 131 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: It sometimes gets pigeonholed as like a winter or holiday 132 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: herb for a number of reasons that we'll get into 133 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: more in our history section. But also I mean like 134 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: it's evergreen in a lot of places, so you can 135 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: like go pick some during a cold winter, as you 136 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: cannot with many other herbs. Yeah yeah, um. You can 137 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: also extract the essential oils and use those um for 138 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: this purpose. Rosemary is grown to the stage where it 139 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: flowers because the buds contain a lot of those essential oils. 140 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: These are also used in perfumes and other cosmetics, and 141 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: rosemary is planted just as an ornamental in gardens here 142 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Walking around in some of our like like 143 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: century plus old neighborhoods, you find it a lot on 144 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: the hilly slopes of front lawns because it's really good 145 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: at gripping into soil and hold again in place, and 146 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: it's yeah, I'm gonna have to keep an eye out 147 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 1: for that. I don't think I've ever been like, oh Rosemary, 148 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. I clock it everywhere I go in 149 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: case I ever need like emergency rosemary sneak onto someone's 150 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: law and steel the rosemary. I I've definitely taken rosemary 151 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: from people's lawns before. I haven't gone up on only 152 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: from like sidewalk access, but I've definitely plucked rosemary stocks 153 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: from random neighbors lawns before because I've just been like, oh, Rosemary, 154 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: I could use some of that. Now I know what 155 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: those wanted posters are, rosemary thief. It's only when there's 156 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: a clearly like overabundance of rosemary. I would never like 157 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: like look at like a little seedling and go like 158 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: ha ha ha ha, I have this this rosemary for myself. 159 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: Oh no, sounds like you were pretty ready with deflection 160 00:09:55,320 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: and story. Well, moving on for perhaps legal purposes, um 161 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: uh do do to um some of the properties of 162 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: of rosemary extracts UM, namely namely antioxidant properties. Rosemary extract 163 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: is also approved as an additive for food preservation in 164 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: the European Union and some other areas. Cool. Well, speaking of, 165 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: I guess what about the nutrition You're generally not, as 166 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: with most herbs, eating enough rosemary to make like a 167 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: huge nutritive difference, um, Because yeah, rosemary packs a huge 168 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: flavor bang for its caloric buck. A little goes a 169 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: long way, as Annie um herbed around and found out. 170 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: But but if you are eating the actual leaves, they're 171 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: they're high in fiber, have a smattering of vitamins and minerals, 172 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: and rosemary has been used in traditional medicines and folk 173 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: medicines for all kinds of things forever UM and modernly 174 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: it's extracts have been found in fact to have all 175 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: kinds of properties um anti cancer, anti diabetic, anti inflammatory, 176 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: antina size upt of pain, anti diuretic, anti blood clot, 177 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: anti ulcer and protective of the liver and brain and 178 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: UH in the in the latter case, there's a bunch 179 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: of really interesting research into UM. How like, the combination 180 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: of compounds in rosemary, including antioxidant and anti inflammatory, along 181 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: with some others, may be particularly helpful in fighting degenerative 182 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: brain diseases like Alzheimer's, which are caused by brain cell death. UM. 183 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: There was even some research conducted with to be fair, 184 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: of very small sample of subjects that indicated that rosemary 185 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: oil aromatherapy may have a positive impact on immediate memory 186 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: recall UM hypothetically by preventing the breakdown of this one 187 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: particular neurotransmitter and the and this neurotransmitter is one that 188 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: helps your brain remember to like, like go check the 189 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: toast before it burns, that kind of thing. Oh I 190 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: like that neurotransmitter. Yeah, me too. I don't I don't 191 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: have enough of it. I don't think maybe I should 192 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: be diffusing some rosemary essential oil into my home at 193 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: all times. Who knows, it's a nice smell, as I said, 194 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: it is. I like it. I like it, And we 195 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: do have a couple numbers for you. We do, not 196 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: too many, but a few. Yeah. So, I've read some 197 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: differing numbers about the size of the global market for rosemary. 198 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: It's it's extracts are a lot more closely followed than 199 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: its use fresh, which tends to be a pretty local 200 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: sort of thing. Um. Rosemary did originate around the Mediterranean Sea, 201 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: and to this day is most produced in that region. 202 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: As much as of rosemary that's destined for essential oil 203 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: is grown in Tunisia and Morocco. And I think that 204 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: the US uses or maybe processes and then sells most 205 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: of that. I couldn't, I wasn't super clear, and I 206 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: was unwilling to spend five thousand dollars on a market 207 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: research report to find out. But like, but like, up 208 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: to a third of rosemary essential oil is bound for 209 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: the US in one way or another. Huh. Yeah interesting. 210 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: I think, um, grain of salt, y'all. Uh. And I've 211 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: read estimates that rosemary's global market value was worth two 212 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: and fifteen million dollars and growing as of I've also 213 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: read that it's expected to grow like really aggressively and 214 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: hit over a billion dollars by the end of the year. Wow. Yeah, 215 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't know either, people getting 216 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: really turned onto rosemary. Yeah, it's right, you know. It's 217 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: it's a for for for culinary purposes, for medical purposes, 218 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: for cosmetic purposes. Um, it's it's a It is popular 219 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: in a number of industries. This is true. And it 220 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: has a long history of being popular in a number 221 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: of industries. Oh my goodness, it does. And we are 222 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: going to get into that after we get back from 223 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: a quick break for a word from our sponsor, and 224 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: we're back. Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you. So yes. 225 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: Rosemary originated in Asia Minor and the Mediterranean over five 226 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: thousand years ago. Uh spriggs were found in Egyptian tombs 227 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: dating back to three thousand BC. Records suggests that the 228 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: Egyptian king Ramsey's the Third offered god Amana at thieves 229 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five measures of rosemary. Okay, yes. 230 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: Ancient Greek students may have eaten it to try to 231 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: boost their memory. Um, and may have worn rosemary garlands 232 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: when studying. Example, I'm trying to think if I did 233 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: anything like that. I guess there was that whole like 234 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: brain food idea when I was a kid where my 235 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: mom would be I have an orange this morning or something. 236 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: If I had a big test, but I did not 237 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: wear any garlands of rosemary. Maybe maybe it's time, Maybe 238 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: we should time. It sounds fancy. Rosemary is also very pretty, 239 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: so it is right next time we record Laurence, let's show. Okay, 240 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: so yeah, into it, into it alright perfect. Ancient Romans 241 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: believed that the odor preserved dead bodies and that the 242 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: color civilized eternity, sort of like being evergreen maybe um, 243 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: And so they used it in in funeral practices, and 244 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: it's still used in some funerary practices to this day 245 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: and has been across the world. By rosemary had been 246 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: introduced to China, and by the ninth century it was 247 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: growing in the UK. And yes, it has long been 248 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: used for all kinds of things, for distally like improving memory, 249 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: as an anti inflammatory and antiseptic for digestive health. Some 250 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: sources suggest it may have been burnt in French hospitals 251 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: to cleanse and purify the air. Going back to the 252 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: ninth century, it was being used for fever and toothache, 253 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: and during the sixteenth century it was used for gout, 254 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: bad dreams, lost appetite, coughs, and as a toothpaste. Yeah, 255 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: when crushed, mixed with Colt's foot and smoked, it was 256 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: thought to alleviate asthma and other long conditions. Yeah. Just 257 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: over the centuries, it's been used for just about everything, 258 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: all kinds of things. Yeah, yeah, I love all of this. 259 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: I love that, like anything that was strongly flavored enough 260 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: was basically like, well, this must have good properties. Let's 261 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: just let's just do it. Yeah, yeah, let's just do it. 262 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: They'll just try it for that or that or Yeah. 263 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: Certainly plenty designated the plant rosemarness or sea dow because 264 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: of where it grows in the Mediterranean. But there's a 265 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: lot going on with his name. Yeah, yes, okay, so 266 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: legend has it, and this is one of many legends, 267 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: but this one has it that the name was an 268 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: homage to the virgin Mary because of the color of 269 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: the flowers. This color was thought to match the colors 270 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: of her clothing. And perhaps people believe, yes, But this 271 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: is what gets me. Perhaps people believe that the maximum 272 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: height that this the rosemary plant grew matched that of Christ, 273 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: or that it lives to thirty three years, the same 274 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: age Christ was when he died. Okay, yeah, okay, yep um. 275 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: The names for rosemary and other languages reflects similar things. 276 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: The Spanish word for rosemary refers to the story of 277 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: Virgin Mary resting under a rosemary bush while she made 278 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: her way to Egypt. Another similar story about the origin 279 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: of the plant's name differs on the details of that, 280 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: but Uh instead says that Mary tried to cleanse the 281 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: clothes of Christ and then dried them on a quote 282 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: evil smelling, but giving the bush the pungent smell we 283 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: know today, or that the clothing stand to the flowers 284 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: blue instead of the other way around. Sure sure um. 285 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: Other names and yet other languages reflect more different mythologies. 286 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: UM of Portuguese word derived from a Scandinavian word um, 287 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: implies that it is a plant of the elves, an 288 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: elven plant um, and apparently Sicilian stories told of m 289 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: fairies using rosemary flowers as cradles for their little fairy babies. 290 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my child, and you got very excited about that. 291 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, no, I was thinking about all my 292 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: favorite illustrated versions of them bolina um and as a 293 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: sort of botanical cross reference, um. The the shape of 294 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: a rosemary's flowers if you've ever seen one, or if 295 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: you can go google it right now. Um has this 296 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: sort of like this sort of like cup shape with 297 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: this kind of like the goodness. I'm forgetting my botanical terms, 298 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: but but one of the flower bits kind of closes 299 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: over the bottom of the flower pedals over the bottom 300 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: lip of the flower, so that when a bee goes 301 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: in to get the good stuff, it rubs. It's it's 302 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: plants sexy bits on the back of the bee to 303 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: help better to help better spread. Yeah, wow, plants sexy bits. Yeah, 304 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:28,239 Speaker 1: that only the technical terms here on savor. Yeah, this 305 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: is what you get when Lauren doesn't write down her notes. 306 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: I liked it. I have The bees do too, from 307 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: what I understand, they do like Rosemary. Yeah, yeah, they do. 308 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: They do goodness? Please please would you continue any I 309 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: get I feel like this is the second time I'm 310 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: getting you out of a hole. I owe you, my dude, 311 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: I owe you. UM. I also found one article claiming 312 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 1: that the name Rosemary comes from Rosa marina, which was 313 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: this myth from medieval times about a girl born from 314 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: a specific type of bush, but she was only born 315 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: when it was watered with dragon's blood, and that sounds 316 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: like a fantastic story to me. Yes, I would have 317 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: loved that as well when I was a kid. Perhaps 318 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: all of these naming legends are tales. Give you the 319 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: idea that rosemary has a long history when it comes 320 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: to symbolism, because it absolutely does, whether it's remembrance, consistency, fidelity, 321 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: loyalty and friendship or all those things. Because of this, 322 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: Elizabethans used it as a token at weddings and funerals, 323 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: and according to some sources that may have even been 324 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: used to keep witches at bay um and some believed 325 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: it attracted fairies. Yeah, yeah, there was an old English 326 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: saying that quote rosemary grows best where the mistress is master, 327 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: because yeah, I know, because of its popularity in kitchen 328 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: guard ends. And this is the saying that originated in 329 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: eight seventy UM and it was first recorded uh coined 330 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: by Treasury of Botany John Lindley. And because of this, 331 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: men of the house sometimes destroyed or damaged rosemary plants 332 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: that were flourishing, believing that it meant they had lost 333 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: control of the household. Oh, which was very silly that 334 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: in my opinion, in my modern day opinion, that's right, right, modernly, 335 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: that would not be the first thing that I would 336 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: try to remedy a perceived imbalance of power in a household. 337 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: But unless Rosemary was very involved, that would be a 338 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: specific situation. Though. Yeah, that's like, that's like a movie 339 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: I moving on, Moving on. Rosemary is still used in 340 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: Australia in a n Z A c R on Zac 341 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: and remembered stay because of how well it grows on 342 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: the gallophole the peninsula. During the Middle Ages, some brides 343 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: may have worn a crown of rosemary, while the groom 344 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: and guest wore a sprig of it, or even a 345 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: ribbon branch with rosemary, to represent love, fidelity, and loyalty, 346 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: and perhaps from there, from all of this it became 347 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: kind of symbolic of a love charm. Young people might 348 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: have tapped each other with a sprig of rosemary, and 349 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 1: if the flower opened when tapped, it meant that they 350 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: were going to fall in love. Yeah. Newlyweds might plant 351 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: a branch of rosemary on their wedding day and if 352 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: it group was supposed to be a good omen I'm 353 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:43,479 Speaker 1: guessing if it didn't not, a good open spriggs might 354 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: be placed in linen's to encourage fidelity, put in dolls 355 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: to attract lovers, um, just all kinds of things. According 356 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: to some more, eating rosemary on the eve of st 357 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: Agnes or January will either ease the hearts of someone 358 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: struck with unrequited love, usually a girl, or if you're 359 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: a girl and a virgin, you might take a shower, 360 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: put a rosemary sprig under your pillow, say sat Agnes. 361 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: That's to lover's kind. Come ease the trouble of my 362 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: mind before falling asleep and go to bed before midnight. 363 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: Has to be before midnight. Dreams of your future husband. 364 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: And if that dream is blurry, then that's his him. 365 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: You can't see his face, that's it, okay. But if 366 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: the face is clear, that's not that guy. So don't 367 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: waste your time with that fool. Oh jeez, this is 368 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: all right. Yeah, I know we've talked about this before. 369 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: This is the kind of stuff I would do when 370 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: I was younger. UM. More modern iterations allow for the 371 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: use of an image of rosemary on your phones lock 372 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: screened UM, or a printed picture placed under your pillow 373 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: as opposed to the real thing. So a picture of 374 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: rosemary as opposed to real rosebery see, I'm just I'm 375 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: really caught up on this whole thing where like if 376 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: you if you can see a dude, it's not that dude. 377 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: But if you can't see a dude, then it's that dude. 378 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: Because if you can't see him, then who is he? 379 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: That's the intrigue, Lauren. It's almost like it doesn't really work. 380 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: Although hey, like, like I appreciate using herbs to cause 381 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: cautionary dreams about who you shouldn't marry. That's cool, you know, 382 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: I bet it's a I'm probably thinking way too deeply 383 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: about this, but it is like Halloween season, so that 384 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: I have been. But it's probably like, you know, you 385 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: need to you have to project onto the blurry face, 386 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: the face of the person you want. You need to 387 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: get to the bottom of it. There you go, that 388 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 1: is the message. Yeah, no one's gonna give you the answer. Yeah, exactly, 389 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: do the work. Do the work, to the work. We've 390 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: gotten to the bottom of this. But this whole practice 391 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: originated in eighteen hundreds, England. The prayers are from John 392 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: Keats's nineteen poem The Eve of st Agnes. Love it, 393 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: I love it too. According to one thing I read 394 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: another English tradition goes as follows, dips briggs of rosemary 395 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: into a mixture of wine, rum, gin, vinegar and water 396 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: inside a glass bowl must be glass. On the eve 397 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: of St. Magdalen, meet with two other young girls, each 398 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: less than twenty one years of age. The rosemary spriggs 399 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: then are pinned to their tunics, and each girl takes 400 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: three SIPs of the rosemary tonic, then rest in the 401 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: same bed without speaking. The dreams that follow will be prophetic. Ah. 402 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: I love this kind of stuff so much. Why don't speak? Definitely, 403 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: don't don't even look at each other. This certain it 404 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: was not invented by parents who about to have a 405 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: sleepover and just wanted just really wanted a quiet night. 406 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: I love how many urban legends when you get to 407 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: the bottom of them, or like, go home and don't 408 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: cause any trouble, get good grades, don't call trouble. Got it? 409 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: Just listen to your parents, would you? Yeah. Another rosemary 410 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: legend goes that rosemary has the ability to restore youth. 411 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: It tells the tale of a queen who took a 412 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: rosemary bath three times a day, causing her old flesh 413 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: to fall off and leaving behind a quote young and 414 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: tender layer. Ah, and this might relate to a real 415 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 1: perfume that was used that we're going to talk about 416 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: in just a second. Yes, another fascinating thing. Um And 417 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: another suspicion from the sixteenth century claimed that rosemary only 418 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: grew in the gardens of the righteous. There you go, 419 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: it's my righteous garden. But yes, stepping back a bit, 420 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: a thirty five see Imperial Library of Vienna document contained 421 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: a recipe calling for a distillation of lavender, myrtle and 422 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: rosemary that tasted like honey called hungry water um allegedly 423 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: used to cure Hungarian Queen Elizabeth paralysis, and after that 424 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: it went on to become really popular in the south 425 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: of France. Yeah, and there's all sorts of legends about 426 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: this um. I couldn't get to the actual bottom of them, 427 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: but right, Uh, Hungry water is said to have been 428 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: right to be to have been invented by or for 429 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: um a Hungarian queen, possibly Isabella um and that it 430 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: possibly like restored her youth or or made her so 431 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: glad worstly beautiful at the age of like seventy or 432 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: seventy five, that that that a like twenty five year 433 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: old prince asked her hand in marriage, or that she 434 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: bathed in it every day, or that I don't know 435 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: that all of this, all of this stuff, but one 436 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: way or another, Um, rosemary and um distilled alcohol perfumes 437 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: were from what I can tell, quite popular for a 438 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: hot minute in Europe. Yes, that is what. That is 439 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: what I garnered from this. Um. Other herbs were involved 440 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: as well, That's all I got. Yeah, I do love 441 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: how many like legends and lore we're getting to talk 442 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: about in this episode. Yeah, it's fun. It is. During 443 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: medieval times, some pockets of France may have used rosemary 444 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: as part of their embalming practices. For a period after 445 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: the sixteenth century and then onward, rosemary was used as 446 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: a Christmas tree type of thing in Europe okay, though 447 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: it was eventually replaced by pine trees and points that 448 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: he is. Around the same time, the Gerard herbal claimed 449 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: that rosemary could treat okay, here we go, could treat 450 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: bloody diarrhea issues in the brain, in the head, that 451 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: it quickens the senses and proves the memory. That it 452 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: could quote take it away stench of the mouth and 453 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: breath and make it it very sweet. Um that when 454 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: worn as a garland, it could prevent the brain from 455 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: being stuffed with cold humors, that it restores speech to 456 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: those who have been possessed, that it could cure jaundice, 457 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: cure stoppages of the liver, and lukaria. That when the 458 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: flowers were mixed with sugar, it comforted the heart, made 459 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: you marry, quickened your spirits, and made you livelier, which 460 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: sounds nice. Yeah, sounds very nice. Sure. The cold Pepper herbal, 461 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: released around the same time, attributed similar things to Rosemary, 462 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: and also claimed it could remove scars, marks pox on 463 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: the skin, that it dispelled pestilence, that it brings comfort 464 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: to the year and inward griefs sounds like it's a 465 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: cold weather kind of I don't know, comfort to the year. 466 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: It could be in a lot of things. I guess 467 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: it could be, but it does, but it does sound 468 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: very New Year's ish, right, right, right right. Since the 469 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: eighteenth century, Rosemary has been placed on Shakespeare's tomb on 470 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: his birthday, and this is probably because of Ophelia's line 471 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: from Hamlet when she says Rosemary is for remembrance. Yeah, yeah, 472 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: that's Act four, seen five. Um, she she's she's got 473 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,719 Speaker 1: this kind of like like bouquet of herbs hypothetically and flowers, 474 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: and she says, there's rosemary. That's for remembrance. Pray you love. 475 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: Remember Shakespeare also mentioned Rosemary and Romeo and juliet twice. Um. 476 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: The nurse uh kind of low key compares Romeo to Rosemary. She's, 477 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, she's talking about the first letters of words. 478 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: It's she's a little bit dotty. It's sort of it's 479 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: sort of played for comedy. Um. But uh, also by 480 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: the plant savvy friar friar Lawrence UM as a suggested 481 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: part of Juliette's funeral ceremony. So yeah, kind of like 482 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: all these been connected to funerals for quite some time. Yeah, 483 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: absolutely M. Meanwhile, UM, investigation of herbal extracts of things 484 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: like rosemary really ramped up starting in the two thousands, UM, 485 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: kind of alongside their use in alternative medicines like the 486 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: aforementioned a Roman therapy. And rosemary was actually classified into 487 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: the Salvia genus only in UM. Prior to that, it 488 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: had been considered to belong to a small genus pretty 489 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: much all of its own, called Rosemarinus um. And what 490 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: happened was researchers realized that Rosemary shared a most recent 491 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: common ancestor with the other species in Salvia, so it 492 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: and a few other previously sub genuses were reclassified. Wow 493 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: that classification system still on going. Oh yeah yeah, oh yeah, 494 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: I know that the taxonomy of all of this is 495 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: is so fascinating. And I mean, you know, previously to 496 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: like genetics, um, people just were like looking how things 497 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: grow and like the physical structures of plants and seeds 498 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: and all of that kind of thing. Um, And now 499 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,239 Speaker 1: they're like, well, we found these genes that are very 500 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: similar to these other genes, and so it's really it's 501 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: really cool, it's really fun um and you know, very 502 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: deeply nerdy way conversation about right, like like how do 503 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: how how did these plants evolve and how did they 504 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: relate to each other today and like what should be 505 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: considered part of one thing versus part of another thing? Yes? 506 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: Pretty cool? Yes, I agree, I think it's pretty cool. 507 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: And it's also when you look at etymology, really interesting 508 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: about what people thought and why it's so confusing to 509 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: as today. Yeah yeah, absolutely, yes, yes, well I guess 510 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: that's what we have to say about rosemary for now. 511 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: It is um. We do have some listener mail for you. 512 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: We do, but first we have one more quick break 513 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: for a word from our sponsor. And we're back. Thank 514 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: you sponsored, Yes, thank you. We're back with snow. It's 515 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: envisioning a field of Roovesmary in the wind. Yes, Brittany wrote, 516 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: I recently got back from a bucket list trip to 517 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: Peru and could not wait to write to you two 518 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: about a couple of things. So sorry this email may 519 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: get a bit long. First, before we went on the trip, 520 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: I got a book about the Spanish conquistors takeover of 521 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: the can Empire. Now I always knew they were not 522 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: the best people, but I got angry reading parts of 523 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: the book. For the entire trip. Any time there was 524 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: any mention of the Spanish conquisa doors are, especially Bizarro, 525 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: all I could do was hear your voice saying that 526 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: guy you have been talking about, Jefferson, And I don't 527 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: know if you shake your fists as you say it, 528 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 1: but in my mind that was what was happening twenty Yes. Second, 529 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: the reason we went to Peru was to complete a 530 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: hike on an old Incan trail to Machu Picchu. The 531 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 1: hike we chose was an eight day, seventy six mile 532 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 1: hike through the Andies. I had to right in because 533 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: of the food. I have a dashed pictures, but they 534 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: do not do the food we were served justice. I 535 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: also added a picture of the amazing chef and the 536 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: equipment he had to work with. We joked that we 537 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: ate better on the trail than we would have if 538 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: we stayed in Cusco. We had a chef and a 539 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: soux chef along with us and got three course meals 540 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: plus afternoon teatime every day. Thank you Tequila Expeditions for 541 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: always taking care of us. It was amazing and we 542 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 1: somehow never ate the same thing twice. We decided after 543 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: day three they just started showing off a sea picture 544 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: of star shaped wand todds, and we were more than 545 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: happy to eat the results. They even made one of 546 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: our fellow hikers a birthday cake over and open fire. 547 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 1: If you ever get a chance to go to Peru, 548 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: the food alone is worth it, let alone all the 549 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 1: other amazing things that are there. I'm still mad about 550 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: all the amazing produce they have down there that we 551 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: can't get here, which brings me to my next reason 552 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 1: to write in. After we got back from our check 553 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: and I checked my podcast. I found out you did 554 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: a podcast on Keenea. I could not believe the amazing 555 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: timing you had for me on that one. In that podcast, 556 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: you mentioned warm drinks but didn't have any examples. Not 557 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: sure if you would classify it as a drink. But 558 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: one of the things we got for breakfast every morning 559 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: was a porridge that we could pour into a cup 560 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: and drink. One of them was a keen porridge. We 561 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: also had corn being Kanyewa, among others. I'm still trying 562 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: to find a recipe to try and get something close 563 00:35:55,600 --> 00:36:01,959 Speaker 1: for a different kind of breakfast. Oh so good. All 564 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: of that sounds so good. Oh good. Yes, I'm so 565 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: glad you had such a wonderful trip. The pictures were 566 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: amazing um and the food did look absolutely delicious. I 567 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: did something similar when I was in Peru and it 568 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: was really really delicious food. They have so much good 569 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: food in Peru. And Brittany also sent us a list 570 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,720 Speaker 1: of like eight suggestions of topics and they were all good. 571 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: So yes, yes, so we always love topic suggestions. We 572 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: do have a list. It is quite long, but there 573 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: is a list. There is a list, uh yes, and 574 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: we're I'm very excited to get to some of those 575 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: topics in the future. Yes, yes, um Amy wrote, I 576 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: have meant to write in so many times, like after 577 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: the Taco Tuesday episode. I grew up in the Midwest 578 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: and I would always hear Taco John's commercials on the radio. 579 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 1: I always go over the date with my students and 580 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: I will occasion only say it's Taco Tuesday at Taco John's. 581 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: My students will of course look at me as if 582 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: I were crazy. Secondly, I meant to write after the 583 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: asparagus episode. I'm not sure if another listener might have 584 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: written in about the fact that Spanish, at least in Spain, 585 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: has two different words for asparagus. White asparagus is espagaro 586 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: and green asparagus is called triguero. I have never actually 587 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: eaten fresh white asparagus. Most white asparagus in Spain is bottled. 588 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: It's eaten cold with mayonnaise. I'm not a fan, but 589 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: not because of the mayo. I hate the texture of 590 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: the bottled asparagus, which I find slimy. I'm in the 591 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: minority since it's a popular first course growing up in Minnesota, 592 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: we have a fresh asparagus patch next to the garden. 593 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: I thought I hated asparagus because my mother's way to 594 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: cook it was to boil it. Now, if only she 595 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: had thought to grill it was some olive oil, I 596 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 1: would have been a fan. I also meant to write 597 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: in after the Paea episode. When I was a student 598 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: in Madrid, I lived with an elderly woman who cooked 599 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 1: from my roommate in me. She was a great cook, 600 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 1: but she could not make paea. And she made paea 601 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: every Thursday. She could give us a heaping plate, and 602 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: I swear I would eat and eat and eat, and 603 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,320 Speaker 1: the level would never go down. I grew to dread 604 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: those days. It took me years to eat paea again. 605 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: At the beginning of January of this year, Madrid was 606 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: hit by a freak snowstorm. It hadn't snowed so much 607 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: in Madrid for sixty years. All businesses were closed for 608 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: at least a day. The people of Madrid enjoyed sledding 609 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: and making snowmen. What does this have to do with food? 610 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,839 Speaker 1: I saw several people using a piea the pan as 611 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,760 Speaker 1: a sled so funny. I've at touched a picture where 612 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: you can see the pan stuck in the snow. That's fantastic, Yes, yes, 613 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: so much. I almost We had a snow like enough 614 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,879 Speaker 1: to sled on here in Atlanta a couple of years back, 615 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 1: and I almost went sledding on my Captain America's shield, 616 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: but I was so nervous damage I might do. Yeah, yeah, 617 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: to to yourself for the shield, the shield whatever the 618 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: good all no sense of preservation? Annie, All right, yeah, 619 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 1: I should I shouldn't have asked. Why did I ask? Uh? Now, 620 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: I see you, I see you. I I know, I 621 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: know how much that shield means to you. And I 622 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,959 Speaker 1: know that you wouldn't want you wouldn't want to break 623 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: cap shield so old Sea Bass as I've nicknamed him. Uh. 624 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: And I do want to say, I know on here 625 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: we've talked before about how we give you listeners cravings 626 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: and that it often irks you. Well sometimes you know 627 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: you also give us cravings. Oh yeah, when you right in. 628 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 1: And I want all of these foods as well. And 629 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: I just we never tried the whitest faraguess and I 630 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: really don't want anything to do with this white sparagus 631 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 1: with mayonnaise, but I do I do want to try that. 632 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: Although I think I would also find it slimy and 633 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: dislike it, but that doesn't make me not want to 634 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: try it. I am determined to try white asparagus, craving 635 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: for something I've never had. Um. But that's where we are. 636 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: I want to try all of these things all the time. Goodness, Yeah, 637 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: I yeah, And I don't know, we just we just 638 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: need to go. This is where. This is where I 639 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: feel like we always, like, like even just in conversation 640 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: with each other, we don't get into nearly as much 641 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: trouble about like like adding to our list of places 642 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: to go as we do when you all right in, 643 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 1: because because we already have plenty of ideas of like 644 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: oh yeah, no we have to go here and here 645 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: and here and here, but y'all right in. And then 646 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm like, no, I need to 647 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: be in Peru today, Like why am I not? Why 648 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: am I not in a plane in a plane right now? 649 00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: Like right, we need to solve this. Yeah, yes, which 650 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: we appreciate, Yes, yes, yes, it's a beautiful problem to have. 651 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: It is such a wonderful problem to have. Uh So 652 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 1: thanks to both that these listeners are writing to us. 653 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: If you would like to write to us. You can 654 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: our emails Hello at savor pod dot com. We're also 655 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: on social media. 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