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Speaker 1: This is Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous in Depth.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. I

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Speaker 1: have two men here with me who do fantastic accents,

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Speaker 1: and they would like to stay in accents the entire time. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think that would be very admirable for the people

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Speaker 1: out there for us to hear like these. Um, this

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Speaker 1: is how I normally talk, and Justin carries an accent

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Speaker 1: as well. I'm pretty yeah, I'm just a guy from

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Speaker 1: Baltimore here. I can't even attempt an accent. But Andrew

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Speaker 1: is so good. Actually, you know, I've actually been talked

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Speaker 1: pretty legit. So I like, it's like one of my

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Speaker 1: highest honest, it's amazing if you're picked up girls like

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Speaker 1: it's the reason why that was the reason I came

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Speaker 1: out of the limit like this, because this is my

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Speaker 1: like trick when I went to When I went out,

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Speaker 1: I was like, all right, well I'm gonna talk to

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Speaker 1: this girl and then just do this pretty accident. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: the from London and she wants to talk to me,

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Speaker 1: say would work. And then actually one time some girl

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Speaker 1: pulled a shot on my head because I told him

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Speaker 1: actually wasn't from there, and she was like, Chicago women,

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Speaker 1: you gotta love him. Was this before or after Bachelorette? Before? Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: you're allowed to be in either voice. I probably is

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Speaker 1: a little like, yeah, you should probably regular because then

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Speaker 1: we're really weirded out? Is that the guy that was

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Speaker 1: on our screen? Okay? Well, welcome to an in depth

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Speaker 1: podcast with Andrew Spencer. Today. Ben is out, so I

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Speaker 1: am co hosted by Justin Glai is one of Andrew's

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Speaker 1: best friends. So happy to be here. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. So you guys were doing um in depth

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Speaker 1: with both of these guys. There are some answers that

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Speaker 1: you may be wondering throughout either of the podcasts that

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Speaker 1: kind of pertained to both of them, like you know,

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Speaker 1: why weren't you the lead or what happened in paradise

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Speaker 1: with this situation or your friend in that In that case,

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure we're answering all the questions between both.

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Speaker 1: But if there's like a lingering question you're wondering, why

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Speaker 1: didn't broach it here? Chances are you should probably go

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Speaker 1: and listen to the other podcast, and you'll probably get

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Speaker 1: the answer. So I just kind of want to preface that.

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Speaker 1: And now we're going to dive in with Andrew the

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Speaker 1: same way that we dived in with Justin in his

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Speaker 1: in depth. So where were you born and who were

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Speaker 1: you born to? Oh? Um? I was born in Lake Forest, Illinois, Um,

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Speaker 1: pretty much. Um to Phillis. It's my mother's name. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I lived in here for a while and moved over

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Speaker 1: to Europe for four years. So I lived there for

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Speaker 1: a while. Um, and then I got on the show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah okay. So he was just telling us in his

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Speaker 1: I don't know whether take you seriously or not. That's

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Speaker 1: a true story. So um. Well, obviously my cousin's Clay,

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Speaker 1: who was on The Bachelor, Clay Harbor. You may remember

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Speaker 1: him from UM, I guess it was like whose season

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Speaker 1: I played football. You know, I had a chance um

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Speaker 1: like come on now. So we went to a nice

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00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:45,760
Speaker 1: restaurant last night, and um Andrew said, I'm not a

424
00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,520
Speaker 1: restaurant guy. I'm not. I don't know what to order.

425
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,760
Speaker 1: That's so much pressure. And then like she's like, oh,

426
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 1: let's get a wine. I'm like wine, yeah, yeah, yeah,

427
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,000
Speaker 1: what do you like? He's not the guy that will say, oh,

428
00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,679
Speaker 1: this appetizer looks nice for the table, let's share. And

429
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 1: then Justin said that I think it was you you

430
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 1: said it was awkward, the awkward silence looking at the

431
00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 1: menu and trying to decide what you want while on

432
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,480
Speaker 1: a date. Yeah, because like if I'm at dinner, I

433
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 1: want to have conversation, and then the waiter waitress comes

434
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 1: over and I'm like, i haven't look at the menu, bex.

435
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,679
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make it not awkward. And then if

436
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,159
Speaker 1: it's like a first dame, we're just both stre to

437
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 1: the menu. I know we're both thinking about how silent

438
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 1: and awkward it is, but I'm like, I want to

439
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 1: see what I want to get. Don't do dinner dates,

440
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 1: but on the type or I'm like, I'm always down

441
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 1: to eat, right, So even if I'm like, hey, let's

442
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 1: grab drinks, right, I kind of like hedge my bet

443
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 1: and like I'll have something light before I go on

444
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,240
Speaker 1: the diate to eat, you know, and then I'll go

445
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,959
Speaker 1: on the date because I don't want if the girl's like,

446
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 1: I'll be like, hey, are you hungry? I always like

447
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,400
Speaker 1: are you you want to get something? Because I don't

448
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:42,880
Speaker 1: want it to be this like if she hasn't eaten

449
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,639
Speaker 1: yet and she wants to get something, like, let's do it.

450
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 1: I love a girl that can eat, you know, don't

451
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 1: like good you know, you know, so I'll like I'll

452
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 1: eat enough just to like kind of cook the stomach.

453
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,880
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I could eat, you know, I'm always down.

454
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 1: That's I can started drinks. But if we're but if

455
00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 1: like we can we can turn it into something, you

456
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,119
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like I never want to come

457
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 1: off as like a oh he does, like we're just

458
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,719
Speaker 1: like you know, I don't want her to feel awkward

459
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 1: or hungry. It's like or whatever you want, you know

460
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like we're good here. And I also

461
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of double dates or like just

462
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,120
Speaker 1: friends on dates. He was on my last date. It's

463
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 1: it makes it so much easier because we can kind

464
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,880
Speaker 1: of like he knows, like we can bounce off each

465
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 1: other and like I can kind of like pick up anything.

466
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 1: She's like, She's like, I had no idea he was here,

467
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, well he is, we can just was

468
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 1: this a second day like us? She loved it so

469
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 1: much first day, she loved it so much that she

470
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 1: we did a second date the next day. He was

471
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 1: also there, so is Greg. And here's what they did.

472
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,400
Speaker 1: They made and they made me kiss her in front

473
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,120
Speaker 1: of them. She's like, she's like like, so, I think

474
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 1: you guys should kiss. Have you guys had a first

475
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 1: kiss you? So first let's let's let's start. So first

476
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 1: day we're literally we're in New York and we're in Soho.

477
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 1: We're just shopping around. He's like, hey, I'm about to

478
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: have a date. I was like, what, you leave me.

479
00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 1: He's like, no, she's gonna come meet up with us.

480
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 1: And that that's such andrew thing, like when he like

481
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 1: he literally like like activities is like his his thing.

482
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,479
Speaker 1: So she was cool enough to like just literally hang

483
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 1: out with us in shop all day because at the

484
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 1: end of the day, like my my my my person

485
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: is gonna have to be with my friends. Like if

486
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 1: anyone's gonna know, my friends are gonna know, you know,

487
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: soon as she pulls hip across stream, like, so what

488
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:23,360
Speaker 1: are you thinking? Man? I'm like, hey, man, she got potential,

489
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 1: see the personality. And then midway through I'm like, and

490
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,360
Speaker 1: then she came out. She had bear s accent. She's

491
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 1: from the UK, and he had to she was he

492
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: was how easily he went out the British accents this kids,

493
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,959
Speaker 1: I've ever seen him because he had an authentic British woman.

494
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: And he was like, I don't know, she might call

495
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: me out. And she was talking about when people She's like,

496
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 1: I hate when people try to use the pretty sacs

497
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: in me. I was like, oh, he's waiting it for

498
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 1: like two hours. He wouldn't do it, so he wouldn't

499
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: got hot chocolate like these little these chocolate chip things

500
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 1: and you know, really cool three persons. And then and

501
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: then we got dinner and Greg was there and literally

502
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, Greg's like, so, what are your intentions

503
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: with Andrew? So now she's all nervous and he goes

504
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 1: and so I'm like, we're gonna get this started. I'm like,

505
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: and no, tell me how do you feel about her friend?

506
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 1: And she's like, okay, we're not doing this. I was like, no,

507
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,959
Speaker 1: we are Greg goes, I think you should kiss and

508
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: now Andrews like, I hate you guys, Like this is

509
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: why I hate. I go, I go, and she's not saying,

510
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 1: she's not like no no, I'm like, well, Andrew seems

511
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 1: like she's pretty into it. And now he's a nervous

512
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 1: one and she was waiting on it. She was like,

513
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, well she hasn't objected, and she's like, I said, Andrew,

514
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 1: you better go ahead. And so he's like, I'm not

515
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: doing this for you guys. He's like, I don't think

516
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: guys have ever seen me kiss. I said, well, no time,

517
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: like the President. I was like, well, we definitely wrote

518
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 1: a show together. So I kid, I haven't seen your kids.

519
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 1: Like he was like, you guys haven't seen me kiss,

520
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: like not on camera. I was like, well, don't telling

521
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: the president. And she's you could tell she's weight because

522
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: she has a personality where she'd be like no, no, no,

523
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,239
Speaker 1: but she was. She was, she very she was she

524
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 1: was like waiting on it. She's that's like a this

525
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 1: European thing. They're they're like very not and so they

526
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: don't get nervous about stuff like that. So she was ready.

527
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 1: So I didn't anywhere. He's just like, come here, and

528
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 1: then me and Greg are like and it was a longer.

529
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: It was a long kiss. I was like I was

530
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: in it, and it wasn't like a pack. It was

531
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: like we were explaining like a little peck, like allright,

532
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: like oh, we were like oh. We turned away and

533
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: I walked her out and then she like text me.

534
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:31,199
Speaker 1: She was like fireworks. I was like, yes, So the

535
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: next time we're in New York, are you going to

536
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: see her again? Ill? Yeah, we'll see I mean fireworks

537
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: and then we'll see Please explain the description younger than me.

538
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: I think we're going to be for New Year's as well.

539
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: So she works, she works on working New Year's. Yeah,

540
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: well we're just like I said, we're just you know,

541
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,959
Speaker 1: I haven't been like swept off my feet yet. Um

542
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: it was a date. You know, we went on two dates.

543
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 1: And I can't tell one of this situation that you have,

544
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: Like bringing her on group first dates is totally disarming

545
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: and so fun. And when bring out the best of

546
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: my personality or if it brings so much pressure to

547
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: impress multiple people, I can figure it out exactly. Takes

548
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: the pressure off of me. So then so then like

549
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 1: if she's like nervous, like that's good. Like that's that's

550
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 1: where I get to be like, all right, let me

551
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: call in the situation make you feel better, Like I

552
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: can like make this like ease you into this, you

553
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean, rather than like all the pressure

554
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 1: is always on the guy wouldn't go on dates. It's like,

555
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: all right, now you gotta hold the conversation. Now I

556
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: can like banter with him, and then she can make

557
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 1: comments off of you. And it's and it's also not

558
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: like I feel like it depends on the friend dynamic

559
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: as well, because if I walked into a situation with

560
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: two women, like and it's like one of those one

561
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: of the women's like trying to grill me right, and

562
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is a lot of pressure. But he

563
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: knows like I'm gonna try to make her feel comfortable

564
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna trying to bring out the best in

565
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: him so she can see him at his fullest self.

566
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: You know. Like that's like the stand office. You're like,

567
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: so like what do you do? Like what Like I'm like, no,

568
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: like see us in banter and like fit in. You know.

569
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 1: Greg's up. Greg's a friend that thinks he's Kevin Hart

570
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: when remember there's a girl around for me, he's he

571
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: has to pull out all the jokes. Okay, dude, he's

572
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: this sidekick Frost, Like when when we're with Trey, Oh

573
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 1: my god. So when I brought them to Baltimore, right,

574
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: we met, you know, we were down on the field,

575
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: we we went in the tunnel, we met. All the

576
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: cheerleaders were taking pictures right and you and Greg goes

577
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: so um, ladies, Tray has actually performed a rehearse to

578
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: dance routine. He's like performed for you all right now,

579
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: and trades like what he goes, No, Tray, don't be nervous.

580
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: Show him your routine and he will put you on

581
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: the spot when in front of girls. He did that

582
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 1: birthday Natalie Andrew has his birthday dance. He wants to

583
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: show and like there's like so many people like intuitive

584
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: like listening really listening to Greg here, and I'm like

585
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: not paying attention, like like what are you talking about?

586
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: So I'm starting to understand the couple that is Victoria

587
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 1: and Greg now more hearing more about Gregg's personality because

588
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: it seems like Victoria than him have very similar senses.

589
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: Of humor. Yeah, they do. They really do. Like one

590
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: thing that you people don't understand, Like Victoria is funny,

591
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: She's hilarious, Like she's got like this edgy like kind

592
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: of dark humor, but like this like sinister like chefs.

593
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: I don't know that I know of any bachelor friend

594
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 1: group that like is so close as you guys, like

595
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: we have are really close friends, you know, like people

596
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: like at our bridal party that will be friends with forever.

597
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: But like you guys have a crew and you guys

598
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: do everything together everything, Like I always say, like everybody eats,

599
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: you know. We we like same pr manager, same deals.

600
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: If we get a deal, like hey, can I bring

601
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: my friends on on this? Like that's just kind of

602
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: how we operates. Like I mean, it's like we're trying

603
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: to COMPLI were we trying coup which it's called the

604
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,479
Speaker 1: couple's retreat now. So we want to get like the

605
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: holy trinity of you know, we want to be able

606
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: to get to a nice spot with our people like

607
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: you know, and be like with each other. Here's some

608
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: more hopeless romantic from Andrew. We're literally I mean we

609
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: love traveling together. Um, and I'm so fortunate to come

610
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: across some friends that also love trial, like we just

611
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: we do so much together, and we were talking about

612
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: what our next international trip is going to be, Like, Hey,

613
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: how about Greece. Andrew's no, I'm saving that from my

614
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 1: future wife. He's like, I won't go to Greece until

615
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: I'm until it's the honeymoon or a couple of strip

616
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 1: or something like that. I'm like, all right, another like

617
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: Greg's got one, like the pressures on, because like we're

618
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: dying to do like a couple's trip. Yes, yes, like

619
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: we are. We are holding the group back right now.

620
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: I think it's more so I'm trying. I just can't.

621
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't find I don't know what I'm

622
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 1: looking for, but and I won't force it. So like

623
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: that's what I'm going on in these states. I'm like

624
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: I need to like I need to be more at

625
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: and like I'm getting older. I feel like I don't

626
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: want to be like an older dad. I don't want

627
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: to be like thet with a newborn. Probably want to

628
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: be five with the newborn. How old are you? Yeah, okay,

629
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: I mean you're at a great age right now until

630
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: find your person. But I promise you as somebody who

631
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: has eleven month old, Like you can enjoy time with

632
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: your wife when you find her for a while, because

633
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: it will never be the same. I just you know,

634
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: you know, obviously obviously, like I said earlier, like not

635
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: having a dad usually in my life, That's just what

636
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: I'm super excited about. Like, you know, I just wanna,

637
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: you know, I want to be able to be in

638
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: shape to whoop his ass in like basketball. You know,

639
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: there's no way he's gonna beat me in anything. So

640
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: do you have a girl her too? You don't matter,

641
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: that's not We're gonna be a tough family, Like it

642
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what it is. We're gonna be competitive and repeat,

643
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I just want to push them

644
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: to be their best and I want to be there

645
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: for them, um when they do their best. So like

646
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: that's kind of what I want to do. Oh Andrew,

647
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: you are just like the sweetest, sweetest thing ever you

648
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: it is. You're just making everybody so mad. You're not

649
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: the bachelor. All right, Well, let's talk about your romance

650
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: or lack thereof with Teddy. So you slide because you

651
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: thought there was a fairy tale possibly there. You're wrong.

652
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: Com was possibly there. It was a New Year's Eve

653
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: DM that you center. You said, hey, our crowd, our

654
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: paths are probably going to cross at some point, like

655
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: you didn't want to get into it because you looking

656
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: forward to it. Yeah, and I think like the response

657
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: was so like receptive of that, and I loved it,

658
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: and I was like like, damn, I just want to

659
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: like talk to her now like I wanted to, just

660
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: I wouldn't skip Paradise to at least try it outside

661
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: before even going down. Um. So yeah, you know, Paradise

662
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: didn't go as planned, but you know that's fine. We

663
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: just keep moving on. But how much pressure it was

664
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: there when you actually met face to face which was

665
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: on Paradise. See, it wasn't the pressure that I thought

666
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: I put on the pressure, That's what I mean, like

667
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: you put pressure on yourself. It wasn't like the fan

668
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: they were a little bit, but the fandom got the

669
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: fandom was more than the pressure I put on because um,

670
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: like the shipping started happening in the podcast started happening.

671
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: So actually no, it was producers. Producers put way more

672
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: pressure on us than anyone. It was like, um, I

673
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: would get into interviews or I would walk around and

674
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: get calls like are you ready for Teddy? And I'm like,

675
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: like Jesus, guys, like I don't know if it's gonna

676
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: work yet, Like yeah, it's like okay, like we know,

677
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: but you don't have to say it like that, you know,

678
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: And I think it just got to be so much,

679
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I will I will share

680
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: this one thing. This is this. Not a lot of

681
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: people know this. So she did text me right before

682
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: we went off to the beach and she was just like,

683
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of pressure surrounding us, and

684
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know, like I know you're,

685
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: like you said, you've interested in a lot of other girls,

686
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: like I do hope that I just don't want you

687
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: to know like that you can go after whoever you want,

688
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: like there's no like expectation and just only be for me.

689
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I appreciate that, Yeah exactly,

690
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: you know, I, like I said, I want to be chosen.

691
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: So we had that conversation before we even got on

692
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: the beach. Not a lot of people know that, um,

693
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: which could have been a flag. I was like, I

694
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: could have been like something maybe I knew something like that,

695
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: or maybe she was just like feeling overwhelmed with everything,

696
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: and I think that's a lot of it, and like,

697
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I I think that's where I messed up.

698
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: I think, which was so out of pocket and and

699
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: different for me, is I I bought into the hype.

700
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: I bought into, you know, the TV aspect of everything,

701
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: and I don't think she ever was there for that.

702
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: And you know, like that's where I was like I

703
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: failed because I feel like she genuinely wanted to find

704
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: like a real connection between us two and it didn't happen.

705
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: And I think I wasn't myself truthfully because I was

706
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: like like, oh, we gotta have this big moment here

707
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: or this big moment here, And like honestly, when she left,

708
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: I was like I started remembering like the small moments

709
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: that were so valuable that I overlooked and like we're

710
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: so great that, um, we're so stuck in this like

711
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: looking for this like fairy tale, but like looking for

712
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: the big like firework moment like we never had that,

713
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: we never had that like click, but like just like

714
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: thinking about all the small moments and I was like,

715
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: oh my god, those are great, Like those are the

716
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: ones I actually want really in real life, and I

717
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: think I like skipped so many steps and trying to

718
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: hit this home run and get like straight to like

719
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: Brandon Serene, you know what I mean. And I'm like,

720
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: I think that might I think I might have scared

721
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: her in a way where I'm just like that's like,

722
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: you know, well, we're not Brandon Serene, Like it's not

723
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: gonna work, you know what I mean. I think that

724
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: was a lot with Jared. Like Jared was coming off

725
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: of Caitlin the season where he had so many these big, sweeping,

726
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: romantic moments and he's expecting the same thing. So when

727
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: he wasn't getting those that with me, he kind of

728
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: like wrote it off. And then you slowly discovered that

729
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: it's like the little things that doesn't have to be

730
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: this this rom com without the small details in between.

731
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 1: Because Teddy is an amazing girl. Um, I don't think

732
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people know, like she's way funnier than

733
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: I gave her credit for it, Like not like I

734
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: just didn't notice that from Clayton season, so I didn't know,

735
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: like and honestly, she carried a lot of the conversations

736
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: like I was drawn up blanks. I was like, oh,

737
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: my god, I don't know what to do. Like I

738
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: told you, when I like a like person, like I

739
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: like fail. So I was like, there's a lot of

740
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: situations where I was just like, oh my god, what

741
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: am I doing? What am I doing? When I doing it?

742
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: And she was like so yeah, this and this and this,

743
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: and she would always talk about real stuff like her

744
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: life and what family was, like what that was going on.

745
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, those are great, And I

746
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: was like, oh, so, what do you want to do

747
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: with like like you know, love style, like lovely. I

748
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: don't know. I was just not like talking about the

749
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: real stuff. And you know, I'm just very disappointed and

750
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: like how I just operated things that could have done better.

751
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: And I think, um, I think I drove her away

752
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: or anything. Yeah, but at the same time, I feel

753
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: like you guys just weren't it. Like that just wasn't

754
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: your girl. You weren't her guy. And I haven't really

755
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: said this, but when we sat down there and I

756
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: met all the girls and we had like our little

757
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: girl pow out, she said that she felt like something

758
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,479
Speaker 1: was missing. And then and then last night you told

759
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: me separately totally not knowing that that that you said

760
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: the same thing about her. You were like, I really

761
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: wanted it, but I you said that like it felt wrong,

762
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 1: and then she left and then you were like, oh wait,

763
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: I want but I wanted, I wanted, I feel it.

764
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: And I think it's just because to possibly was just

765
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: like one of those moments where you were just like,

766
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 1: I want one I can't have. Yeah no, I said

767
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: that as well. I said, I said it was I

768
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: want what I can't have. But it was just more

769
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: so this like the the passion and just like how

770
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: much she didn't want to hurt me and the fact

771
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: that like I was like, Okay, well you care, that's one,

772
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: but like why couldn't we just communicate that, Like if

773
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: we would have just communicated just more deeper level, like

774
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: on that on that level, um, it just felt like

775
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: that's that was what I was kind of missing, was

776
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. I think both of you knew

777
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: it wasn't it, but I think you were more willing

778
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: to see it through and give it more chances. And

779
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: I mean I know him, and like even as a bystander,

780
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: I kind of like, you know, keep an eye peeled,

781
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: like what are they up to? And I I had

782
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: a feeling I was like, this isn't it because I

783
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: know him and I know when he's in he never

784
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: like he did he was he never seemed like himself.

785
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: You know, he'd come back and I was, you know

786
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: from what I you know, briefly saw her and in

787
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 1: our interaction she was great, and you know he's great,

788
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: and I'm just like two people can be great, but

789
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that they're great for each other. And

790
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: I remember going back up to the bunks and I'd

791
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: be like, how you feeling right? That was waiting to

792
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: see if I'm like right, and he's like something like

793
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: that like X factors missing and he's like yeah, I'm

794
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: like dude, I was like I can see it, like

795
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: it's something that's just not there. I'm like, you're not

796
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: being yourself, Like like I don't know, she's not like

797
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: this isn't fun, Andrew. This isn't like you know the Andrew.

798
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, I just couldn't get I couldn't read it.

799
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: I couldn't read her. And all I knew was it

800
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: wasn't like it wasn't clicking um and like I just

801
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: couldn't There's nothing, and I was gonna try, Like I

802
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: was like, hey, I but there was so much hype

803
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 1: and pressure built up around Like we would talk every

804
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: day before Paradise and he's like he's like, he's like, man,

805
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: like I'm going in, I'm proposing. He's like, I ain't

806
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: gonna do the He's like, I ain't gonna do the

807
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: typical one of the beach proposal. He's like, I'm talking

808
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: to the producers. Yeah that's we're gonna go to some

809
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: jungle and we're gonna do it. No no, no, no no,

810
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: no no, And that's what I'm saying, Like I was,

811
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: there was so I was overthinking. I was skipping steps

812
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: to where line. That's where I'm like, yeah, I over like.

813
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: That was on me because I was looking far past

814
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: where we were actually at and it was bad. But yeah,

815
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: that is really funny. So I did. I did talk

816
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: to her. I was like, Hey, if I'm gonna get engaged,

817
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get on a knee where other people

818
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: have gotten out. I want you guys to fly us

819
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: out of similar romantic place. Then I'll get on a knee.

820
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: But this's gonna have his rom com ending one way

821
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: or another. So how do you see your proposal one day? Um,

822
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: honestly now, it's like just tailored to the person that

823
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: I meant. I feel like I'll read the room with that,

824
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: not a lot of people like all that big flashy stuff. Um,

825
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: and like I just didn't want to do the same

826
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: thing as everyone else on the beach. I'm like, hey,

827
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: you're way more deserving of something else, and I'm not

828
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: gonna give you what other people have given. But what

829
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: if Serene, here's this, that's fine. I mean like just no, no,

830
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, go ahead, you don't do your You

831
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 1: guys did your thing like me. I'm like, hey, you're

832
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: my person, so I'm gonna go above and beyond. It's

833
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: just me showing like every day, like you're going to

834
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: be different than every other girl in the world. So

835
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: like that's kind of my angles. Like I'm not going

836
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: to propose to you in this spot, like we can

837
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: go up to the top. Uh yeah, we can go

838
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: somewhere else. We're not gonna get proposed. I'm not proposed

839
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 1: to you where everyone else is. Like you know, you're different,

840
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: You're different to me, so, um, no one's been my fiance.

841
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: So like that's what that was where my head was at.

842
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: That's really funny he said that I totally forgot about that. Well,

843
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: you continue to blame sort of maybe you're not maybe

844
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: the cast is maybe the girls that you're with our

845
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: um the teddy thing kind of lingers with you and

846
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: you're not over it. So which is why you know

847
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: he's cringing right now, which is why like it didn't

848
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: work out with Jacenia and then n C. But was

849
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: that true? Maybe that was true in the moment, it

850
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: was true, Yeah, but then like in hindsight, you're also

851
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: made have just probably been like yeah, but it's all

852
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: it's like it's I'm thinking of her, but it's also

853
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: just not you. Yes, yes, absolutely. Um. And here's the thing,

854
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: like if they had brought someone down there, Um, it's

855
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: like every other breakup, like your boys are like they're like, hey,

856
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: go back out there, you get back in the field

857
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: and you know we'll get back in Sometimes you're not ready,

858
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,479
Speaker 1: but you still do it anyways. Um, Like it wasn't

859
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: that I wasn't ready, It was just there wasn't the

860
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: right girl to do it. And like and here's the thing,

861
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: like everything sped up there and like they want me

862
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: to be to be able to get to propose. I'm like,

863
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: there's nobody here that I believe that I would get

864
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: to that stage with UM, But like that doesn't mean

865
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna try, you know what I mean. But

866
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: it also like I never had the rose again, so

867
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: it's like I wasn't picking people. Only give out one

868
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: rose and that was a teddy girl girl girls was

869
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: a girl girl girl like yeah, so like exactly, and

870
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: then Brittany chose Tyler over me, and then like just

871
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: saying you like I never said, just saying you couldn't

872
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: go talk to any other boy. She's like, oh, you

873
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: let me on or you. I'm like, no, I didn't,

874
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: Like I told you, I'm gonna try, but I'm going

875
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: at this pace like and there's no telling if like

876
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 1: we ever get to this part, but I'm gonna try,

877
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And we try hide and

878
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: I was gonna go home before NC. You don't know

879
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: the timing of what the producers are gonna They just

880
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: dropped bombshell. N He gets there and I'm like, oh,

881
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: she's really cute. Maybe I'll go on a day with Ancy.

882
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: Maybe there's something I felt a little something go on

883
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: a day with NC. UM if Ncy came earlier, we

884
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: could be still talking, you know what I mean. Um,

885
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: but it was just all Timing was crazy. Timing was crazy.

886
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: The Hunger Games of love, Yeah it was insane. But yeah,

887
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: I think I think the whole teddy thing did have

888
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: a lot of I wanted to go home. I was gone.

889
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: I was gone with n before all of that. As

890
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: soon as I laughed, soon as she laughed, I was like,

891
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: all right, well that was the reason I came here, Daddy,

892
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: Like you wanted to leave. Did you feel jealous that

893
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: she got to leave and you didn't? No, no, no, no.

894
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: Michael A stepped in and gave me the speech of

895
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: a lifetime. Same way him and Rodney, they just were

896
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 1: every day like no, bro, you gotta stay, you gotta

897
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: do this, Like Michael is talking about, like what kind

898
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: of father do you want to be? And you're just

899
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: gonna give up and quit, And I'm like, tim cool,

900
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: And then these guys like, come on, bro, we're gonna

901
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: be here man, like you you're gonna find someone. Just

902
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: take your time, just get back out there. Like you know,

903
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: you weren't really like feeling it. She wasn't feeling It's fine,

904
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: like you know it's over, like just you can move

905
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: on from this and you can still save something. You know,

906
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: you can find something. Every single second I'm getting like

907
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 1: they're hitting me with those and I'm like all right, alright, alright, alright,

908
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: And the producers are like, well, you know, if you

909
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: turned down a Rose, that person goes home too. I

910
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: was like, you mother, because why doesn't work like that.

911
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: People were like, we'll give you a friendship ros. I'll

912
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: be like, I'll be damned if I get a friendship

913
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: Ros in this minute, Like I will flip this place

914
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: upside down, don't you dare. I was like, There's no

915
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: way I'm doing that, Like I'm going home. Um so yeah, okay.

916
00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: So Teddy wrote something on Instagram about like it was

917
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: like kind of alluding to her making her own choices

918
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: or like feeling screwed over from the producers and like

919
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: never wanting to be in that situation again. It was

920
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: kind of cryptic, what's your take. It's actually the first

921
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: time someone's asked me that. Um, you know, I one

922
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: of the things that like, you know, I I trust

923
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people, and I, you know, it's just

924
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: how I operate. I don't know anything and what happened, um.

925
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: And that was the first thing I texted her when

926
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: I got out of the show. I was like, you know,

927
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: I heard things when like someone haywire and I just

928
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: wanted to check in on her. I was like, oh,

929
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: I hope everything's well and she's responded to me, and

930
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: she was like, yeah, everything went well. I want to

931
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 1: thank you. You're like you're a paradise to me. But like, UM,

932
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: the producers were not treating me kindly, And I was like, okay,

933
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I wish I hate to try to go

934
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: through that alone whatever. UM, But I don't know, you know,

935
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: it's off because I keep seeing like people saying that

936
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: um the producer for forcing her to be with me.

937
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: First of all, no one's gonna force you to be

938
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: anyone to be with me, Like that's unacceptable. I would

939
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: never accept that, UM. So I don't know how far

940
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: oh extent where they're talking about with that UM. And secondly,

941
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: you know, had I known, like like I said, communication

942
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: was lacking there because had I known she had a

943
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: conversation with Rodney like that, like here's the thing, like,

944
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: you're not gonna burn, You're not gonna hurt my feelings.

945
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: If you're like, hey, I would love to like I

946
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: wish we got challenged. I wish someone else was there

947
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: to be like hey, what can we talk or you know,

948
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: take her and talk to her. Like I feel like

949
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: she was kind of thrown like to me, like in

950
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: a in a in a way because we had said

951
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 1: we expressed interest in each other, um and I feel

952
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: like in that as soon as that happened, and like

953
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: we were on the beach and felt like she felt

954
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: like it was just like I was she was the

955
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: only thing. I was the only thing she was like

956
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: allowed to talk to you. Like that's not the case.

957
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: It's like I just really you want to talk to

958
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: you And if you don't want to like express that

959
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: to me, like be like, hey, I want to talk

960
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: to other people. I kind of want to do my

961
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 1: own thing. I'm be like, hey, that's okay, Like that's

962
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: way better then, like, oh, I don't want to hurt him,

963
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: And like obviously we go back to the point where

964
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: like the fans like trying to bash someone for you know,

965
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: like oh she left Andrew, how could she do that?

966
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And like that's the one

967
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: thing I hate more than anything, you know, and I

968
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: didn't want her, and I feel like she felt like

969
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: that was what's gonna happen if she had chose Roddy

970
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 1: or chose someone else. And I'm just like and it's

971
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: not only that, but it's also we've talked about it

972
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 1: like the same token, like you don't want the fans

973
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, poor Andrew sympathy card because she don't.

974
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: It's like he don't like one of the thing I

975
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: hate more anything, just how I've grown up and I've

976
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: never had it like easy, Like I don't love. I

977
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: hate pity, hate it, sympathy, pity, whatever you call it.

978
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: I hate it more than anything, Like I cringe more

979
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: than anything. Like when I when you're talking about the

980
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: sympathy rose, I would have I would have been I

981
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: would have been I rate if I would have been

982
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: so pissed so like to me, like it was it

983
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: was not her fault, but it was just like, um,

984
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: I get that you were upset, but like to me,

985
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, well, like you can just you know,

986
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: like no one was forcing like oh I wasn't like

987
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: forcing the case, like you could have laughed at any time,

988
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: like and that's just kind of how I felt about it,

989
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: but you know, she's she's a strong woman and you

990
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: know she's gonna say how she feels, and that's good

991
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: and I'm glad that she got, like to say her peace. Um,

992
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: I mean that's pretty much you know, really I got

993
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: from it. Like I just hope that she knows that

994
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: there's no way I was gonna let someone forc you

995
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: to be with me, like zero percent chance. Yeah, uh,

996
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: it was I don't know. It was kind of confusing

997
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: to me, um, because talking to some of her friends,

998
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: like you know, Serena, I mean, Serene was confused as

999
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: all all too. You know that she kinda just up

1000
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: and left. But you know, I know you wouldn't have cared,

1001
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: but she you know, aside from you, I heard that

1002
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: she had expressed interest in Rodney and that's who would

1003
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: asked her on the day. So it's like, I know,

1004
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 1: it's not gonna hurt, but it's not gonna like it's

1005
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: not gonna be catastrophic if she wants to go with Ronnie, right,

1006
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: and and so you've got two great guys that are

1007
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: interested in you, and it's okay if one doesn't work out.

1008
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: You know that being Andrew, but you had another great

1009
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: guy there that that you were also you know you

1010
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: were in there was mutual interest and I would have

1011
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: left and you could have did something with Rodney, you

1012
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like that could or I would

1013
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: have stayed, but like there was no one really I

1014
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: was interested at the time, but like, um, I just

1015
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: felt really bad that she had to leave in that manner.

1016
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: Um And obviously I don't know what happened with her

1017
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: in the producers and you know what she told me,

1018
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: she was treated on like our respect to believe it,

1019
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: you know. And from the producer's side, they said they

1020
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: did nothing, and I'm like, okay, well that's you know,

1021
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,959
Speaker 1: to each other. How someone feels is how they feel.

1022
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: You can't tell them how to feel. So um so,

1023
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: both party. I mean, I have a great relationship with

1024
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 1: the producers. And also I think me and Teddy your friends,

1025
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: I believe that. Um So, you know, my interpretation of

1026
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: it is that she just must be very skeptical, maybe

1027
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: a little paranoid at the direction that she thinks that

1028
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: they're leading her in, just because of that comment on Instagram,

1029
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: her trying to get out of paradise so quickly, and

1030
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: then even if you look back on Clayton season. She

1031
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: was such a favorite at the beginning and everybody was like,

1032
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: can't wait to watch Teddy like that, she was all

1033
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: the focus was on her on that first episode, and

1034
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: then she kind of faded into obscurity on the season

1035
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: gets limited, like sort of midway through. And I'm wondering

1036
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: if just because she had a hard time being like

1037
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: super open and honest in interviews and then that led

1038
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: to less air time and just like just not an

1039
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: interesting character because she was so close off. Um. I

1040
00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 1: have no idea, but I think she's closed off in

1041
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: some situations. Like I said, communication, if it's just been

1042
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: you just let it, let me have it. I'm a

1043
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: big boy and girl, man, UM I can handle. There's

1044
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: a lot less worse things than just being, you know,

1045
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: told that you're not the one. UM. So I was

1046
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: just like, okay, well, you know, if we had those conversations,

1047
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: I think that would have been easier. She does. It

1048
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 1: seems like she has a couple of ayers and needs

1049
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: to be pulled back. Um. But also like we're on

1050
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: we're on television. It's not the easiest, you know what

1051
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: I mean. So it's like I get it, and I'm

1052
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: like the same way too, Like I want to be

1053
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: this super confident guy that I am all the time.

1054
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: Once that camera hits your face and there's everyone sitting

1055
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: there watching, and we're supposed to have this fireworkup relationship,

1056
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: like it was, it was tough. It was tough. So

1057
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: I mean I think the first the first time we

1058
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: started talking, the first shot we had, I think there

1059
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: was like maybe nine or ten cameras, like I mean

1060
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: all the way around, like every angle, and I was

1061
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: like holy, like and like, and that's when you're like, Okay,

1062
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: they're really pushing this, you know what I mean. But

1063
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: and I can see how that scared her. And I

1064
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: think I didn't help. Yeah, and I didn't help because

1065
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: I was like I was looking for the big moment. Oh,

1066
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: here's our big moment. Here it is, here, it is,

1067
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: here's the big moment. And uh, you know, I just

1068
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: wish I would have just spend more like reeling down earth.

1069
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: I understand. Why do you think she didn't show up

1070
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: to the reunion show? Oh she's over it. She's over

1071
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: the show, over the men, over the women, anything that

1072
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: has a Bachelor tie she's over. And that's like I

1073
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: told you, she's she's a strong independent woman. She's um.

1074
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: She didn't even take for no one and she's gonna

1075
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: do what she has set her has set her mind

1076
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: for um, you know, and that's cooler. And I one

1077
00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: thing I would say, I was kind of disappointed, um

1078
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: that Bachelor didn't air my part about it, because that

1079
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: was like my clarity, like I needed to just like

1080
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: I hope she sees it. And like because we we

1081
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: didn't really get to talk much about like anything. So

1082
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,479
Speaker 1: what was the moment. Oh, we just I just sat

1083
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: down on the on the on the couch and just

1084
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: kind of really it was just like a message to

1085
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: her and just be like, hey, you know, I hope

1086
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: we're good, you know what I mean. I hope that

1087
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, you know that I wasn't mad at you

1088
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 1: or none of the things that are people are saying

1089
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: or like and you're not alone or you're not like

1090
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: ostracized in this really in this franchise, Like I think

1091
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: people still love you, like you know, and I think

1092
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: you're really a person. And there were moments in our

1093
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: relationship that I thought were incredible and I wouldn't trade

1094
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: it for anything, and I wish that we could have

1095
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: did you know, we could have did some things differently,

1096
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: and that's just like the clarity that I needed to

1097
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: kind of say. And I never got to like really

1098
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: get it to her because but you said it through

1099
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: a screen, not to her. But that's just that was

1100
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: the only way you're gonna get it. And I isn't

1101
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: gonna go freaking reach out again. Like so she didn't

1102
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: respond when you damned her message? She did? She did, Yeah,

1103
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: but like we never had a chat chat. Like I'm

1104
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: not going to send a bunch of paragraph boxes to something.

1105
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, yeah, I would really love to hop

1106
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: on a call with you one of these days, just

1107
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: kind of check in with you. And that third message

1108
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: that I sent when I said that didn't she didn't

1109
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: respond to that. So I was like, Okay, we just

1110
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: never had a conversation. Yeah, all right, Well we can't

1111
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 1: end the podcast without talking about the moment with n C,

1112
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: which was the most awkward moment I can remember from

1113
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: the show. You guys were at the prom was it prom?

1114
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: What was it? Nineties party? Sady Hawkins and um, she

1115
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: you had it. You were ready to leave and there

1116
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: was a just sendia thing or she got annoyed. Oh

1117
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: my gosh, it was so ridiculous. She got annoyed because

1118
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: he were talking to Senia. She must have been drunk,

1119
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: off r asked, because if we were all drunk, all right.

1120
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: It So then she goes up to you and you're like,

1121
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm leaving and you're and she's like please Andrew, please,

1122
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: please please please? Was it just as awkward experiencing in

1123
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: real life? Um? Justin, I feel like you were there?

1124
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: Were you watching this? Yeah? I was at home home

1125
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: at this point. I was booted again. UM so my

1126
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: first time seen was when it when it aired, I

1127
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: I I again, I will take responsibility for this again. UM.

1128
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't very good at like communicating with n C

1129
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: of the situation with Justina. What's going on? Um, that

1130
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: was not a pleasant conversation between me and Justin. You.

1131
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: I don't think really anyone got the full gist of it.

1132
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: So there's a lot more things that were said that

1133
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 1: I wasn't very happy about. Um. And it was like

1134
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: it was just like a shot at my character and

1135
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: I was just not happy about it. Um. So then

1136
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: NC coming up and I was like, hey, it's not

1137
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: like I really need to just clear this up. I

1138
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: you know, I mean just an have been friends before this,

1139
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: like at the end of the day, like I still

1140
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: want to be like friends, like where we have like

1141
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: a good you know, and I hope this is we

1142
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: may have kissed like eight times total, like we weren't

1143
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: like very you know, in paradise like me and just said,

1144
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: you know, I was like we weren't. You know, we

1145
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: tried it. It just wasn't just never clicked for me.

1146
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, So I was like, I

1147
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 1: was like, oh no, I hope you know. I completely

1148
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: adore you. I just don't think we would work. And

1149
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: you know, obviously like I'm trying, but also knowing that

1150
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 1: my heart's in some other place. Um, and I wish

1151
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: we were just told Ncy was just like yo, my

1152
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: questions being in character, you know, like just give me

1153
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: a second. I'll be right with you, I promise you.

1154
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: And we're drunk. We're drunk drunk, like this is like

1155
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: four am maybe and I've had like thirteen white wines

1156
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: not even kidding you, and everyone's like, dude, I applaud

1157
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 1: you. You You were I don't know how you were. So

1158
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: like I get like so overed up really fast, Like

1159
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: when there's a serious moment, so I gets sorry but um, yeah,

1160
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: so and he comes back over and then she lays on.

1161
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: I mean, she's like, if you don't leave her like

1162
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: this or then I'm like, okay, And how long had

1163
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: you known her at this point? Seventeen hours? Maybe? Well no,

1164
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying because you know TV time and lifetime. Yes,

1165
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: So our date was at night, um, and this was

1166
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: it was okay and it was like twenty seven hours.

1167
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about um. Anyways, Um, great girl, and she's

1168
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: and he's great, like super fun, great to be around. Um. Um.

1169
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: But the situation. She was drunk, we were all drunk, intoxicated,

1170
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: and you know, it was it was awkward, but like

1171
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: it's just overheightened because of the situation we were in.

1172
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: Like it was late and like I said, we were

1173
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: we had a couple of drinks and yeah we were.

1174
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: We were having the and it's Andrew Spencer. Nobody wants

1175
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 1: to see you go, man, shut up. So we were

1176
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 1: we were just having a great time, like it was

1177
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: the best time on the beach. Like I'm dancing, I'm

1178
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: dancing dancing. I'm like they're they're playing music for us,

1179
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: Like oh yeah, that was a treaty. I was like,

1180
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: I am not going I am going all out as

1181
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: my Super Bowl. Um and where everyone's more rally in

1182
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: that place was so high, I mean seeing smiley faces.

1183
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: Everything was great. And then just saying it came out

1184
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: of here with a dark cloud. I was like, oh

1185
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: my god, don't do this to me. I was like,

1186
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: I just wanted one night. Actually I was gonna I

1187
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: don't think it would have. I think I was gonna

1188
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: go home regardless. Then the next road ceremony, okay, but

1189
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: I wanted to see as far as I can go

1190
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: within see and I wanted to have conversations tomorrow at

1191
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: the road ceremony like the cocktail party, and just just

1192
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: really get in serious to see where we can go.

1193
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm like, hey, we can leave and maybe we

1194
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: start dating after this. That was still like a thing possibility,

1195
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: But obviously I know the back of my head, I'm like,

1196
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: they're not teddy. So I was like, I think I

1197
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: was gonna be done the next rostemoney anyways, but like

1198
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: Sadie Hawking is just going on, I'm like, I'm in

1199
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: such a good mood, like and he was there and

1200
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: we were having a great time together. You know she's

1201
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: really good girl. I just think, you know, the situation

1202
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: was just not ideal for for her myself. And yeah,

1203
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: and she's located. She's I met it for the first

1204
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: time at the at the reunion. She seems awesome. Um

1205
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: where she living. She's in New York. Okay, So we've

1206
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: got a couple options for this new year. We're not

1207
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: we're not circling the block and we're doing it. Okay,

1208
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like what's that one with Ryan Reynolds

1209
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: yet maybe yeah, definitely, maybe, definitely maybe, yeah, And you'll

1210
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: have to tell your kids the story. Like alright, I'm

1211
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: gonna let justin wrap this up and ask the last question,

1212
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: whether it be funny, whether it be heartfelt, just the

1213
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: a question between best friends. You know, UM, we talk

1214
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: a lot, obviously, we do everything. Um. You know I'm

1215
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: the same way as you. Um. You know I'm looking

1216
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: for something to happen organically. You know I can't force it. Um,

1217
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: So I guess, is there is there that wow moment

1218
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: or that one action or character traitor or anything that

1219
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: when it happen or have you ever felt it? Is

1220
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: there anything where it's like when this is when I'll no, Um, yeah,

1221
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: it happens. Here's here's a here's a hot take. I

1222
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: believe you have multiple soul mates. Um, and I've had multiple,

1223
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 1: Like there's there are times where I was like, oh wow,

1224
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: like I feel something with this person like I've never

1225
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: felt with anyone. Like you love each person that you've

1226
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: been with differently, Like it's never the same love. You're

1227
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: never gonna love someone the same. So every single spark

1228
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: or everything, every firework that you have with one person

1229
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: is not the same as it is with you know another,

1230
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: So like you just kind of like I don't know

1231
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: whichever one that like really takes you the highest? Uh,

1232
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: is what like I'm really looking for? And sometimes you

1233
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: know that goes by going on dates and you know

1234
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: seeing it. It It doesn't mean you go home and sleep

1235
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: with someone. It just means that you know you're going

1236
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: and just try to get to know their personality, who

1237
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: they are a person and who you know, know their

1238
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: heart is. Might P always say, um, and That's what

1239
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm doing, Like I swhy I said I want a

1240
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: wholesomee wholesome because wholesome is like the general base. You know,

1241
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: if you're a wholesome person, Um, you know it doesn't

1242
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: matter at the end of the day, like the but

1243
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: the decisions that are gonna make between us are gonna

1244
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: be um what do you call it, cordial is always

1245
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: going to be respectful, you know, and that's at the

1246
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: end of the day, like you need respect from all party. So, um,

1247
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: I think there's not one single thing. I just love

1248
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: the small things that blow up, you know what I mean,

1249
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: that that takes me to a place I'm like, oh

1250
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: my god, I love that, you know what I mean.

1251
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: So that's I would say, that's kinda the one thing

1252
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm looking for is just a small gesture that really

1253
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: takes me over the top. Yeah, I mean, I totally

1254
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: agree that. I don't think there's you know, just one

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Speaker 1: person for everybody. So to everyone listening out there every

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Speaker 1: many trillion people in the world, each of you got

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Speaker 1: a shot. It's not there's many of you. That's good news.

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Speaker 1: That's a great way to put it. Man, nice job,

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Speaker 1: all right. That being say, it's been great catching up

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Speaker 1: with you. Man. I've been justin, I've been Andrew and

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