1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Let's Talk Immigration. We 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: watch every day as our border is overwhelmed and both 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: sides are fighting over what the answer is, but we 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: don't seem to have a solution. I know, obviously the 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 1: majority of the problem here is the person who's in 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: the highest office in the land doesn't want to have 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: a solution on this. But I'm excited to have a 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: woman with me today who is an immigrant herself and 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: has actually done some legal work to protect our border. 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: Maheck Cook has worked for candidates for political office, and 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: she's also run herself. We're going to chat about all 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: of that, including a recent poll showing the majority of 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: Americans believe the American dream is dead, which I think 14 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: is so sad, completely devastating, because I think that's one 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: of the coolest parts about America. But we're going to 16 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: get into that. 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She is 41 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: a Republican strategist in attorney Mack. Thank you so much 42 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: for being here. 43 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. It's such a 44 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 2: great opportunity. 45 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: I love having people that can tell me, teach me things, 46 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: tell our audience stuff, and bring a new perspective. You 47 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: are an immigrant, and I wanted to talk a little 48 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: bit about that because obviously we're seeing a lot going 49 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: on today. People are questioning if some of these protests 50 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: that are getting more and more violent just over the weekend. 51 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: I want to say that over the weekend in Michigan, 52 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: there were protesters outside of Governor Whitmer's house and they 53 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: were chanting one, two, three four. Governor Whitmer opened the 54 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: door five, six, seven eight. America is a terrorist state. 55 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are concerned who is 56 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: coming across our border? And do these people really believe 57 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: that what's the next step? If you're willing to stand 58 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: outside of a governor's mansion in a state and threaten them, 59 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: what is the next step? So what are you seeing 60 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: from that perspective? 61 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: We have an immigration crisis, There's no doubt. I think 62 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: every politician talks about this. But I had the opportunity 63 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: firsthand to go to McCallan, Texas and visit the southern border. 64 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 2: These are shots that you don't get to see on television. 65 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: There's so much hidden today from the media. We have 66 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: illegal immigrants that are crossing at a record high and 67 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: when you talk about terrorism today, if we don't secure 68 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: our border, this is a national security threat. We had 69 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: a chief that has recently retired discuss how god awful 70 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: the state of our border is. There is no wall, 71 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: so there's no deterrent. There's no surveillance, so we don't 72 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: have any type of airborne activity that can help even 73 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: detect individuals with these border patrol officers truly are or babysitters. 74 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: They'll tell you that there's not enough of them. So 75 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: when an individual comes in and I met with many 76 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: of them at the Catholic charities in McCallan, Texas, they're processed, 77 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: they're handed over to places like Catholic charities, they stay 78 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 2: there for three days, and then they're shipped off to 79 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: any part in the United States. So we are truly 80 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: a border state any state that you live in. It 81 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: does not matter if you're in Texas or any other state. 82 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 2: So it's been shocking to see and our DH secretary 83 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: has just said he does not know the number of 84 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 2: individuals that are coming into our border. There are so 85 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: many gotaways, so it's truly a life or death matter 86 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 2: if we don't secure our border. 87 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking millions since Joe Biden has taken office. 88 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: I think something key that you said is that there's 89 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: no border wall. And we know that Donald Trump was 90 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: building a border wall. We have a border wall in 91 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: some areas. It has not been kept up since Joe 92 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: Biden took office. There were a lot more materials, and 93 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 1: let me be clear about something. The materials were there 94 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: to continue building the wall. They were waiting for someone 95 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,559 Speaker 1: to build them. As soon as Joe Biden took over, 96 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: not only did he not build the wall, but then 97 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: he sold off the materials and then lo and behold 98 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: a few weeks a few weeks ago, very quietly, we 99 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: started to hear from the Biden administration, Okay, we're going 100 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: to start building that wall again. We do think that 101 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: that wall is important. And you can tell that they are. 102 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: They're flustered. They don't know exactly what to do. Like 103 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: I said, we're talking millions of people coming across now, 104 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: and there is no way to sugarcoat this. I mean 105 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: even Karine Jean Pierre is looking for her words, and 106 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: let's face it, she has them written right in front 107 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: of her every statement. She reads everything that she's going 108 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: to say, and she still doesn't know what to say 109 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: about the border wall. 110 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: Well, it's because they're hiding the truth, right Like you 111 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 2: can look at the data today since Biden took office, 112 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 2: six point two million illegal immigrants. We talk about Terris alone, 113 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty nine individuals that were apprehended in 114 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. So the Biden administration now is trying 115 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: to put a band aid on a problem that we 116 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 2: should have been solving from day one. Under President Trump. 117 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: We were more secure, we were more stable, our economy 118 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: was doing better. Now we have a fence and all crisis, 119 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: a human trafficking crisis, and a legal immigrant crisis, and 120 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: Biden continues to give money to blue cities to house 121 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: these individuals. I can tell you firsthand in Columbus, Ohio, unfortunately, 122 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: after the Afghanistan withdrawal that happened, there were so many 123 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 2: Ifgani refugees that came here to several properties of a 124 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: client that I have and stayed there. And guess what 125 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 2: all government handouts now they're good people, but we don't 126 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: know their background, we don't know their criminal history. We 127 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 2: are not doing our due diligence today, so we are 128 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 2: more unsafe than ever before. 129 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: We talk about human trafficking. I want to get into 130 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: that a little bit because you are in Ohio. Ohio 131 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: just had a no limits abortion. Is that a constitutional 132 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: amendment in Ohio? 133 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: Yes, there was a constitutional amendment that passed no limits abortion. 134 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: So no limits abortion. And just to be clear, this 135 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: is where we are in the United States today, and 136 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: we talked about this a few days ago on the podcast. 137 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: The majority of the Western world and when I say 138 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: the majority, the only real country that is outside of 139 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: a ten to fourteen week span you've got I think 140 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: it's the Netherlands that is twenty four weeks. But outside 141 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: of that, everybody else is falling within this ten to 142 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: fourteen week span. In Ohio and I think six other 143 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: states in the United States, we have no limits abortion 144 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: at a time when we see rising human trafficking. I 145 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: think we're number two in the entire world for human trafficking. 146 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: This is a pedophile, a trafficker, a predator's dream bill 147 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: because they don't have to have a parental They don't 148 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: have to have parental consent. They can take a girl 149 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: over and over and over again. No one's going to 150 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: ask any questions. It doesn't matter what level of a 151 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: pregnancy she's in. The problem with bills like this, they 152 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: are incredibly dangerous to women and they promote trafficking in 153 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: a way that people cannot imagine. What do you say 154 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: about the fact that you've got all these life groups 155 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: that are saying we can ban abortion completely, but the 156 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: effect that they're having is no limits abortion. 157 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 2: I think we have to come to a common sense right. 158 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: I am pro life unapologetically, but at the same time, 159 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: Governor Dwine and our states said at best he represents 160 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: millions of Ohioans and that's not where Ohio was. But 161 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: he and so many other individuals kept stating, do not 162 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: pass this amendment because it will allow for full term abortions. 163 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,599 Speaker 2: We have to find common sense, We have to find consensus. 164 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 2: I think that your ban that you talk about between 165 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: twelve to fourteen or twelve to fifteen weeks, when a 166 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: onboard child can feel pain, that's about the place that 167 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: many states need to start considering, and governors need to 168 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: start considering. Because Mark my words. The ACLU did it 169 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 2: in Michigan, they have done it in Ohio. They circumvented 170 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: our state legislature, they circumvented the governor. They went straight 171 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 2: to individuals and said, you need reproductive rights. You're not 172 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 2: going to have contraceptions, You're not going to be able 173 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: to even have miscarriage care. So they peddled lies, millions 174 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 2: of dollars backing it, and guess what, at the end 175 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: of the day, we lost in Ohio. We lost the 176 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: ability to save lives because we couldn't get behind a 177 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: common sense ban, a common sense, thoughtful place where rape 178 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 2: and it insst in my opinion, should be included, and 179 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: common sense in terms of the number of weeks. So 180 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: this has become very extreme. And again this is going 181 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: to be in the ballot, state by state, through not 182 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: the legislature, not the governor. It's going to go state 183 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: by state to the people, and the ACLU is going 184 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: to continue to lie. 185 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 186 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: a Tutor Dixon podcast. I think it's important that we 187 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: talk about this in terms that are realistic, because when 188 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: we think about Roe v. Wade, I mean, nobody talked 189 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: about Roe v. Wade as a ban that was just 190 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: a restriction. You could after viability you weren't allowed to 191 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: have an abortion. And we're talking about abortion restrictions. I 192 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: think the terminology is really important here because we're talking 193 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: about common sense restrictions. And if you say fifteen weeks 194 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: is a common sense restriction it, I mean, how can 195 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: you argue with that when I just told you that 196 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: there are almost no western countries that allow it after 197 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: fourteen weeks, So we're talking about fifteen weeks. But also 198 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: I think that something that people don't understand is when 199 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: these abortion amendments pass in states, nothing else there can 200 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: be no protections put into place, and so like in Michigan, 201 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: and I believe Ohio is the same. But you can 202 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. We have no parental consent 203 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: and that cannot be reversed. We've been told by experts 204 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: that what will likely happen is that likely a young 205 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: woman will die and the parents will sue, and that 206 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: will then alter the state government. They'll say, gosh, you know, 207 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: we really have to figure out a way to have 208 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: a protection on this once it's in the constitution. It's 209 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: challenging because trying to put a protection around it would 210 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: then be unconstitutional, and I think that's what people are 211 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: not understanding. It goes beyond just you know it's abortion 212 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: or no abortion, it's unsafe abortion. 213 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 2: You're right, and restriction is the correct terminology. What we 214 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: fought really hard in Ohio for and I was a 215 00:11:54,400 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: spokeswoman for Protect Women Ohio, was protect these children, protect 216 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: your parental rights, and notification. We had an unfortunate case 217 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 2: where a fifteen year old girl was forced to get 218 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 2: an abortion by her soccer coach. He called Plant Parenthood, 219 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: pretended to be her dad, and it's shocking that Planned 220 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 2: Parenthood didn't have the parent come in And there was 221 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 2: a settlement reached on this, but it's going to encourage 222 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: more young girls being exploited. And human trafficking is really 223 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: big in Ohio. We are part of a highway system 224 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: where these girls are trafficked through our state. We have 225 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 2: a huge system called the catch Court where we're trying 226 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: to help these women that have been human traffic get 227 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 2: back on the street. So parental consents being eviscerated. And 228 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 2: we pointed to Michigan, we said, look at that state 229 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: up north, they're losing parental consent. Let us be part 230 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: of those decisions. These are our children, and at the 231 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: end of the day, the decision wasn't about parental consent 232 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: versus not. It was truly parental consent versus What everybody 233 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: pushed in Ohio is this six week ban. It's pending 234 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 2: on our courts today, but it doesn't matter. As you said, 235 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: it best, the constitution trump state law. So we cannot 236 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 2: have parental consent. We can't have just common sense safety 237 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: measures for women. We can ensure ambulatory care that is 238 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 2: close for somebody who is performing an abortion and god 239 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 2: forbid they need help, which by the way, happened last month. 240 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 2: There's a woman who bled and continued to bleed because 241 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: there was no ambulatory care close as she was getting 242 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: an abortion. So this is truly about women's health and 243 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: not necessarily what people think of as a band. We 244 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 2: need restrictions, we need to be thoughtful, we need to 245 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: find a common sense and every state needs to determine that. 246 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: But we can't lose parental consent. It's being eviscerated throughout 247 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: our country. 248 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: It's been really effective though, for Democrats to come out 249 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: and say that Republicans are anti woman, which I think 250 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: is interesting because I would say that something that promotes trafficking, 251 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: something that promotes the harm of women, is anti woman, 252 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: and really we have to it has to be fully 253 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: looked at and there has to be a full discussion. 254 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: Now I will preface this by saying I blame our 255 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: side because we have not done a good job of educating. 256 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: We have not done a good job of targeting women 257 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: and explaining what we mean. And I complained about this 258 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago in Michigan, or a few days 259 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: ago on the podcast in Michigan. The biggest message was 260 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: that this Prop three was too confusing, too extreme. That 261 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,359 Speaker 1: was it. That was the extent of the education campaign 262 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: for people, whether they're going to vote or not vote. 263 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: That's not enough. People don't understand what that means. And 264 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: so I believe that Republicans have to do a better 265 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: job of this. But I think in general some of 266 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: these things are not political. They are more cultural. And 267 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: I just talked to Riley Gaines about this too, with 268 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: these trans athletes, because again you have this situation in 269 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: New Jersey where this man is swimming on a woman's team, 270 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: he's breaking records. The nc DOUBA has decided they're going 271 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: to step out of it from a national standpoint. They're 272 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: going to let states make their individual decisions as to 273 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: whether or not a trans woman can swim with the 274 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: biological women. And so ultimately what you have is no 275 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: controlling factor, no protective factor. And I like to think 276 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: about government as we only want government to step in 277 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: when we absolutely need a group protected. In this case, 278 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: we need women protected. That was what Title nine was 279 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: supposed to do, and that's what organizations like the NCUBA 280 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: should be looking at. But they are not looking at that. 281 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: They're saying, we're going to throw this back to individual states. 282 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: Individual states can make this decision. Well, that's hurting women 283 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: because now you have these records that were set in 284 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: New Jersey that you may have a woman who is 285 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: somewhat quote unquote protected in Florida, but she can't beat 286 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: those records. And now those are records that are on 287 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: the books. So how do we start talking about these 288 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: things in a way where we are no longer driving 289 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: people away? And like I said, I don't necessarily think 290 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: these are political conversations. I think these are conversations of 291 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: just education and reality. 292 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: Well, I think you've nailed it. The left has always 293 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: had the easiest message. When it came to abortion, it 294 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 2: was reproductive freedom. You have to protect your reproductive freedom. 295 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: When it comes to transgender ideology, it's allowing for equal 296 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: access and equal play. So they have always had this 297 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: very easy message, and then we're stuck in a box 298 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: backpedaling to say, well, that's not true and this is false, 299 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: and let's start with our own narrative. Let's start with compassion, 300 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: let's start with empathy. Let's start with the fact that 301 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: if transgender students truly want a lane, let's create that, 302 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: because we're not going to be able to battle this right. 303 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: There are children that are on flo fortunately going through 304 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: this confusing journey. Some of them decide not to transition fully, 305 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 2: some of them do. And as they do, especially when 306 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: they're eighteen and making those decisions, we need to be 307 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 2: there for them. We need to be a community and 308 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: a resource, and part of that is giving them a lane, 309 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: giving them the comfort that we give male and females. 310 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 2: But to put them in male and female sports is 311 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: a disservice to women. And I think that explanation has 312 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: to happen, and the NCAA needs to step in. I 313 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 2: think the WNBA, if you're playing women's basketball, depending on 314 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: what sport, especially nationally, they need to set standards that 315 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: trickle down and if they're not, then schools need to 316 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 2: start stepping up. We need more thoughtfulness coming from our 317 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 2: parent groups and schools because this is not acceptable. 318 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: Well, and I think that's something Riley Gaines said something interesting. 319 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: She said, I changed my opinion on this, and I decided, 320 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: instead of saying that we need an outside group to 321 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: come in and protect women, that women should refuse to 322 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: compete if there is a transgender woman on the team. 323 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: And I think that that's an interesting perspective because again 324 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: I've said this politically doesn't work because as a politician, 325 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: if you talk about this, it looks like you are 326 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: going after kids who are in a situation that is 327 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: a tough situation and making a lane in and of itself. 328 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 1: It doesn't seem to be satisfying to those groups. But 329 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 1: for the girls who have spent their lives training for 330 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: this moment, those are probably the people that need to 331 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: speak up. And this may be the generation that does 332 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 1: something pretty incredible to protect women's sports. And I think 333 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: every generation has kind of had a moment where they've 334 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: had to fight for women's rights. It's been a continual battle. 335 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: It will always likely be a battle. I mean, you 336 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: see it even when you're campaigning, even when you are 337 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: at work. You see the differences in the way women 338 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,479 Speaker 1: are treated then the ways men are treated. There's always 339 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: going to be that battle out there. But I just 340 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: think that this is an interesting time to encourage those 341 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: women to be the change themselves. 342 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 2: I agree with you, and I think part of it 343 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 2: is showing the compassion. But the other part, and I've 344 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 2: seen this in some of these instances, women are walking 345 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 2: away from the table, and I applaud them. I think 346 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: it's really difficult after you've put in five, ten, fifteen 347 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 2: years of your life training for that one medal, that 348 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 2: one time. But at the same time, if you can't 349 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 2: create the lane, then you have to walk away because 350 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 2: that's the only way we're going to gain respect. It's 351 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: not staying there, it's not continuing to compete, it's not 352 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 2: bowing down to the left. Because I truly think there's 353 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: a small minority of people that believe that this is okay. 354 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: Women need to come together, and I do think there's 355 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 2: a new generation of young women that are starting to 356 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: stand up for themselves. And every generation we go through 357 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: some changes, we take five steps back, we take ten 358 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 2: steps forward. And I think that women's sports and I'm 359 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: a sports agent. I represent women and men at the 360 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: United State University and several other universities here in Ohio. 361 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: We fortunately have not had those situations. But when you 362 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: talk to some of these young female athletes, they have 363 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: worked since they were four or five years old for 364 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 2: that one dream, that one metal. So as they're continuing 365 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: to be pushed and infiltrated by the left, they need 366 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 2: to stand strong. They need to make sure that if 367 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 2: there's not a different lane created by the university, then 368 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: they have the power to walk away. 369 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 370 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast. So let me talk to you 371 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: a little bit about what you think that candidates should 372 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: be focused on. Because we've obviously talked about what isn't 373 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: working politically, and I know that that is not going 374 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: to make a lot of people happy. But if you 375 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: really look, if you kind of peel back the layers 376 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: of the political onion, the social issues are not working 377 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: because that's not really what's impacting most people's everyday lives, 378 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: but you've been involved in prosecuting and working on the 379 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: legal side of criminal cases that involve corruption, terrorism, drug trafficking, 380 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: money laundering, all of these different issues. You've seen, the 381 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: immigration problems, You've seen the problems with people that are 382 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 1: going to a life of crime because of the situation 383 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: with inflation and the problems with that people are having 384 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: with the economy right now, Based on what you've seen 385 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: in the past few years politically and what you've seen 386 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: from a legal standpoint, what would you say are the 387 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: biggest issues that Republicans should be focused on right now. 388 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 2: I think the most important thing is for law enforcement 389 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 2: to enforce the law. That's not happening today across the country. 390 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: Americans are seeing that there's no equity and her judicial system, 391 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 2: there's no law enforcement, that some people are getting away 392 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 2: with things that they shouldn't be, So first and foremost, 393 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 2: there needs to be more law enforcement and more understanding 394 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: that we need to back the blue that really did 395 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: disappear for a while in the last couple of years. 396 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 2: And without that strength and that communal support, it doesn't 397 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 2: matter whether you're prosecuting cases, whether you have increased immigration oversight, 398 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,719 Speaker 2: all of it will collapse if we don't have a 399 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: strong police force. And then I think in terms of immigration, 400 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 2: the most important thing is going back to the policies 401 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 2: of our previous administration. Remain in Mexico, making sure we 402 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 2: have increased surveillance, making sure we have increased border security. 403 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 2: And the number one thing that I continue to hear 404 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 2: is most of these illegal immigrants are coming for asylum. No, 405 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: they're not. They don't have a case for asylum. I 406 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: have spoken to many of them. They're coming here for 407 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: the American dream, and I applaud that, but they need 408 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: to do it legally. Asylum is for persecution, Asylum is 409 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 2: for I worked on a case where a young woman 410 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 2: was generally mutilated and she was filling her country. Those 411 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 2: are asylum cases. It's not because you want to come 412 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 2: to the United States and pursue the American dream. You 413 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: have to do it legally. And then, lastly, when we 414 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 2: look at the overall state of Bidenomics, I mean, regardless 415 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 2: of what president we have today, we still have to 416 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 2: follow the law. We still have to be upstanding citizens 417 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 2: because we will not be able to attain the American dream. 418 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 2: We will not be able to be successful if we 419 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 2: continue to blame, if we continue to act like victims, 420 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: if we continue to look for handouts. So at some 421 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 2: point we have to look inward. We have to look 422 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 2: at our family union, and we need to go back 423 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: to that moral compass that actually binds us together. And 424 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 2: then I think our next presidential election, we can hope 425 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 2: for better top down economics, law and policy. Immigration. That's 426 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 2: what's going to change the country and make sure that 427 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: people believe in the American dream again. 428 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: So speak of the American dream. We said that there 429 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: was a poll that came out majority of Americans think 430 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 1: the American dream is dead. Obviously, you know that there 431 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: are people crossing that border in hopes of achieving the 432 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: American dream. Your family came here in hopes of achieving 433 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: the American dream. It looks as though you were fairly successful. 434 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: And that so tell me when you see that, when 435 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: you see a poll like that that says most Americans 436 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: are like, yeah, that can't happen, what's your reaction to that. 437 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: I've always been somebody who has pushed and talks about perseverance. 438 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 2: Nothing in our lives was perfect. I mean, we lived 439 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: with I was born in India, came to this country, 440 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: when I was five years old, lived with ten family members. 441 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,959 Speaker 2: I remember the first time that I decided that I 442 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 2: wanted to go to law school, I was told by 443 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 2: so many people, well, you've got to be really good, 444 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 2: and lawyers are a dime a dozen. And then I 445 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: remember saying I wanted to work at the US Attorney's Office, 446 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: and somebody at the US Attorney's Office told me, well, 447 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 2: we look for individuals who have longevity here, and you've 448 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 2: not been a career prosecutor. And every little part of 449 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 2: my life I have been told no. I was told 450 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 2: I can't do media commentary because I haven't worked for 451 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 2: a president yet. I mean, every single roadblock is what 452 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: Americans feel on a daily basis because of Biden. What 453 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 2: my message is, though, is you get what you have 454 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: the courage to seek, and if you continue to persevere, 455 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 2: when one door closes, another one opens, and you take 456 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 2: those opportunities and you take those risks, and you're comfortable 457 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: being uncomfortable. And by the way, we are all uncomfortable 458 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 2: right now. The state of the economy is in shambles. 459 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 2: Our four ROH one case are decreasing, mortgage rates are increasing, 460 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: schools are abysmal. After COVID. We're starting to see what 461 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 2: our children are being educated. But the bottom line is 462 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 2: we have to believe that prosperity is possible. But it 463 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 2: starts from within. It starts for knowing that you can 464 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 2: achieve anything through hard work and perseverance. And I truly 465 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 2: believe that I watched my father work three jobs for 466 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 2: seven years straight before we were able to afford our 467 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 2: own home. And as I see these polls today, I 468 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 2: know where it's coming from. We're looking at the TVs, 469 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 2: we're looking at our bank accounts, and things are tough, 470 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 2: but this is the opportunity for us to get back up. 471 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 2: This is the opportunity for us to persevere well. 472 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me of that saying hard times 473 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: make strong men, good times make weak men. And I 474 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: think that when we see folks right now who are 475 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: saying the American dream is unattainable, I don't know that 476 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: it really is, or if the effort is not there 477 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,479 Speaker 1: from this generation of young people who are coming in 478 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: and just wanting to have a great Instagram channel or 479 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: something that is just quick and easy. They want those 480 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: those quick dollars to come in, and that it takes 481 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: hard work I mean, people don't achieve the American Dream 482 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: doesn't happen overnight. It's something that you have to go into. 483 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: You have to push hard. Oftentimes you have several failures. 484 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: I mean that's something that I think that this generation 485 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: is not familiar with. Failure is okay, you learn from failure, 486 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: and then you start over and you push harder, and 487 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: you have to navigate all of the things that come 488 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: at you. But hard work is what gets you to 489 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: the American dream. And I don't know that hard work 490 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: is something that a lot of young people these days 491 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: are willing to put in. 492 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: Well, I think you nailed it. It's instant gratification. It's 493 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 2: the fact that you can completely sit on a couch 494 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 2: Amazon whatever you need. You can get on Instagram, you 495 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 2: can make money on social media. But I truly think 496 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 2: there's going to be a change in this generation. And 497 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 2: I am constantly hopeful for every kid that I meet 498 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: the things that they should be paid one hundred and 499 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars upon graduating with no experience. I always 500 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,239 Speaker 2: meet that one kid whose parents sat down with them 501 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: at the dinner table, who talked about work ethic, who 502 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: talked about achieving the American Dream who talked about not 503 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 2: taking government handouts, So it's definitely possible. But I do 504 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 2: think it starts with the family unit, right. I didn't 505 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,719 Speaker 2: learn what I learned on my own. It was truly 506 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 2: my grandparents, parents, uncles, cousins, everybody running around in the house. 507 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: In the midst of chaos. There was a calm because 508 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: we knew we were a family when we came together. 509 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: And I think as we continue to get attacked from 510 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 2: the left, more and more families are going to start 511 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 2: sitting down together for dinner. That's the number one thing 512 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 2: families can do to check on their children, to ask 513 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,719 Speaker 2: about their days, to try and find that moment of 514 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: calm in the chaos that we're experiencing today. And that's 515 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 2: how you're going to start getting to work ethic, grinding 516 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 2: and pushing our children to achieve the American Dream in 517 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 2: the future. 518 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that seems to be a theme of our guests 519 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: lately is spend time with family. Just make sure that 520 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: you are pouring into your kids and that time that 521 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: you think is just I'm just here getting you lunch, 522 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: I'm helping you get off to school. I'm hoping you 523 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: get to your next event. That still is time that 524 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: you are spending with your family, so make sure you 525 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: are pouring into them in those moments in between. The 526 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: in between moments are just as important as the moments 527 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: where you're sitting down to dinner. I really enjoyed talking 528 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: to you today. Thank you so much for being here. 529 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: Heck Cook, make sure you check out tell us where 530 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: where can people find you? 531 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: I'm on Twitter at maheck Cook, Facebook at cook for Ohio, 532 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,959 Speaker 2: and I really appreciate this opportunity to just share my 533 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 2: my American dream and hopes for our future. 534 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely, thank you so much, and thank you all for 535 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: joining me on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. For this episode 536 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: and others, go to tutordisonpodcast dot com. 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