Speaker 1: It is Thursday, August twelve. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
Speaker 1: And now a guy who hasn't been around tree sap
Speaker 1: in weeks because blumburgoo is not an option, j p CHA,
Speaker 1: welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday afternoon
Speaker 1: as the Jaguars get ready for the Cleveland Browns in
Speaker 1: preseason Week one that's coming up Saturday night at seven o'clock.
Speaker 1: We've got a busy show ahead, in fact, two hours
Speaker 1: coming up on Jaguars Happy Hour. Preseason Week one is here.
Speaker 1: Finally some football or something close to football Saturday night
Speaker 1: at t I A. Bank Field. The quarterback conversation is
Speaker 1: hot today. We'll hear from head coach Urban Meyer coming up,
Speaker 1: and he had some things to say before practice today
Speaker 1: about the quarterback time. He didn't announce a starter yet
Speaker 1: for Saturday night's game. We'll here from serious XM radio
Speaker 1: host Jim Miller at four or fifteen, former Jags quarterback.
Speaker 1: He wore number twelve seven, but not for long. Jeff
Speaker 1: Lageman at four thirty will join us, and then we'll
Speaker 1: have a second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour on the
Speaker 1: Jaguars Radio Network. That's at five o'clock, including a preview
Speaker 1: of our public tailgate show interview with cornerback Shaquille Griffin,
Speaker 1: and he's got a surprise for the fans, wearing number
Speaker 1: twenty six if you have those jerseys. If you don't,
Speaker 1: you might want to get those News of the Day.
Speaker 1: Jaguars back on the practice field Thursday, the preparation continues
Speaker 1: for the preseason opener against those Cleveland Browns. Head coach
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer. Before practice was asked about the quarterback situation
Speaker 1: coming up Saturday night. We'll finalize that tonight, I asked
Speaker 1: Sean im Vavin. But they'll both play. UM A lot
Speaker 1: of it's who's gonna be behind h No, we just
Speaker 1: want to make sure we have Protecto Pocos quarterbacks for
Speaker 1: Boco plays. It sounds like a little bit said what
Speaker 1: happens in the offensive line could affect that. But both
Speaker 1: will play. He was not ready to name a starter.
Speaker 1: He said they'll have meetings tonight to truly determine who
Speaker 1: at least runs out of the tunnel first and onto
Speaker 1: the field. They'll both play, as you you heard a
Speaker 1: reminder say there after practice, Trevor Lawrence said he isn't
Speaker 1: worried much about the playing time. The plan is the
Speaker 1: same for him going into the game. Yeah, I'm I mean,
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna play, So that's just if I
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna play, I'm gonna be prepared. And that's
Speaker 1: the way I'm looking at it. So how much I
Speaker 1: don't really don't really know for sure. Um sure, a
Speaker 1: fair amount. So I'm just gonna be ready for for
Speaker 1: whatever I have and then me and Gardner will will play. Well.
Speaker 1: Here a little later from Trevor Lawrence deeper and his
Speaker 1: knowledge of the playbook so far in this Jaguars offense
Speaker 1: is but yeah, rookie quarterback gets ready for his first
Speaker 1: opportunity in Jaguars teal. We did hear from earlier this week,
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator Darryl Bevil. He said Lawrence is in a
Speaker 1: fantastic spot when it comes to learning the OFFENSEE said, well,
Speaker 1: you know, he had there was two days in there.
Speaker 1: You know, we we we moved him back a little bit,
Speaker 1: and I think he responded. I think it's you know,
Speaker 1: like I've told you guys, he's he's really into it.
Speaker 1: It's really super important to him. Uh, he's working hard
Speaker 1: every day, you know. Bryan Schotheimer doing a hell of
Speaker 1: the job with him, so he's in good hands that way.
Speaker 1: But the last couple of days, like the last four um,
Speaker 1: you know, you could kind of see him should continue
Speaker 1: to make that climb again. It was a little bit
Speaker 1: of hang up early and camp maybe about not a
Speaker 1: hang up that might be too aggressive of a statement.
Speaker 1: But sixth or seventh practice or so Darryl Bevil said,
Speaker 1: you know what, it might have piled up on him
Speaker 1: a little bit today. Some of the installation doing it
Speaker 1: over and over again kind of caught up with him there.
Speaker 1: They weren't as crisp in practice, some of the alignments
Speaker 1: were off. Well, they've gone back and retraced their steps.
Speaker 1: It feels like a few times in getting this offense together,
Speaker 1: and you hear the confidence there from the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: By the way, Bebel will be in the press box
Speaker 1: and the coach's box throughout the season that he'll have
Speaker 1: communication with urban Meyer on the field. Brian Schottenhammer will
Speaker 1: be on the field offensively as well, getting the plays
Speaker 1: in to whatever quarterback is wearing the coach to quarterback
Speaker 1: communication system in their helmet. Well the other quarterback of course,
Speaker 1: at least of note in this conversation right now is
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew the second His performance in camp has really
Speaker 1: impressed head joech urban Meyer. I didn't know Minshew. I
Speaker 1: knew it was coach very well, Mike Leach and and
Speaker 1: you know, to say we didn't you know, I don't
Speaker 1: say we got off top bad start, but I just
Speaker 1: didn't see very much of him. But he's earned my respect.
Speaker 1: I love that guy. He's a he's a warrior, competitor,
Speaker 1: he's uh the fights, he's a fighter. I told him
Speaker 1: that I just got great respect for Minshew. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he has had a solid camp. I think that's probably
Speaker 1: the best way to say it. And urban Meyer told
Speaker 1: him in the past that you're gonna give you an opportunity,
Speaker 1: and and Minshew said as such a little while back
Speaker 1: when he spoke with the media. That's all I asked
Speaker 1: of them. And that's what they've given me, an opportunity.
Speaker 1: And he's been out there a lot. They've been alternating
Speaker 1: reps with the first team offense throughout training camp, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure that will be the case at least tomorrow night.
Speaker 1: Now what the future holds, who knows. It feels like
Speaker 1: he's been the most consistent of the other three quarterbacks
Speaker 1: that aren't named Trevor Lawrence in training camp so far.
Speaker 1: Does that mean he sticks around? As if if Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence wins the job, if you will, does he stick
Speaker 1: around it? Does that value increase and then moves are
Speaker 1: made down the line. Can't speculate that here, but either way,
Speaker 1: it's good to have multiple quarterbacks having good camps. That
Speaker 1: is allowed. That's just fine and that we'll see what
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and the Gardner mints you the second half
Speaker 1: in mind tomorrow night. Now up front, it's a big
Speaker 1: storyline this week. The offensive line for the Jaguars. All
Speaker 1: five guys, of course, returned for season. Cam Robinson on
Speaker 1: the left side, the left tackle, spoke with the media
Speaker 1: Wednesday and he was asked about Walker Little. He says
Speaker 1: he has a good relationship with Walker Little and that's
Speaker 1: about all he had to say. Though. He did talk
Speaker 1: a lot about the culture that head coach Urban Meyer
Speaker 1: has instilled here in Jacksonville and it's familiar to his
Speaker 1: old college days. Uh. Yeah, it was exciting. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I think that's huge. Um, jas guys who who who've
Speaker 1: done it before? You know what I'm saying like, like
Speaker 1: you just mentioned to winning culture, and I know he
Speaker 1: comes from that and that's all he would that's all
Speaker 1: he would accept. So, UM, I think that that was
Speaker 1: big for me and I think that's big for the
Speaker 1: whole organization. Um just I think the approach said a
Speaker 1: not accepting nothing but anybody's best. Um, if it's not
Speaker 1: if he's not up to his standard, and it's unacceptable
Speaker 1: if it's not up. So you understanding what we're trying
Speaker 1: to get done and is not acceptable and they won't
Speaker 1: be acceptable. Yeah, it won't be accepted here. It's that's
Speaker 1: the way things have changed a bit with urban Meyer
Speaker 1: at the Hell of Course Camp. Robinson played at Alabama
Speaker 1: under Nick Saban, similar mindset there, so he's used this
Speaker 1: type of coaching and philosophy. And when you walk in
Speaker 1: the building every day, and especially when you're on the
Speaker 1: run of that practice field, you better be ready to
Speaker 1: give everything you have. Well he knows that anyway, and
Speaker 1: certainly in a one year deal for Cam Robinson thirteen
Speaker 1: point seven million dollars guaranteed in this franchise tag deal
Speaker 1: that he signed, the one year fully guaranteed deal, they
Speaker 1: did draft Walker little behind him. Little has not had
Speaker 1: any reps at least that we've seen with the first
Speaker 1: team offense as of yet. They have been cross training
Speaker 1: Little some left tackle earlier in camp this past week
Speaker 1: or so has been playing a lot of the right side,
Speaker 1: but then the last day or two Little has moved
Speaker 1: back to the left side and the in the first
Speaker 1: depth chart it came out in the game release earlier
Speaker 1: this week, walk a Little Little is listed as a
Speaker 1: left tackle behind Cam Robinson. For what it's worth, of course,
Speaker 1: all jobs are up as a competition and training camp,
Speaker 1: at least this early in training camp with about a
Speaker 1: month away actually a month today away from the start
Speaker 1: of the regular season. Let's move to the defensive side
Speaker 1: of the ball, and plenty of thoughts on that side.
Speaker 1: A lot of change over there, a lot of new
Speaker 1: faces for the Jags defense face coming back from last season.
Speaker 1: They're hoping for a step up. His defensive end and
Speaker 1: outside linebacker Caleb and Chasing and boy, he's excited about
Speaker 1: this new defense and what that could mean for the
Speaker 1: team and himself in the season ahead. We're rolling out there.
Speaker 1: It's fast, man. We come in from all different types
Speaker 1: of ways and like this defense is, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of confidence coming in and just I feel like it
Speaker 1: just was different about this ship, Like we are kind
Speaker 1: of trusting each other as far as uh, like everybody's
Speaker 1: kind of trusting that I'm gonna do my job. I know,
Speaker 1: Shot gonna do his job, Josh gonna do his job.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of getting fun out there. And then
Speaker 1: you know, especially when you compete out there and you're
Speaker 1: making plays and you're going to get the number one
Speaker 1: pick who don't look like no more look like a
Speaker 1: pro already. So it's like when you're rushing her, get
Speaker 1: to the quarterballe Man, Josh trying to compete, get back there,
Speaker 1: and he throwing dimes just like him. But it's fine though,
Speaker 1: like you know, just being in his defense and he's
Speaker 1: been his atmosphere right now as far him Caleb and
Speaker 1: Jason is listed as a first string outside linebacker on
Speaker 1: the initial game release this week, opposite of Josh Allen
Speaker 1: on the other side, Joe Choulvert, Miles jack Or the
Speaker 1: Mic and will linebackers respectively. And it would be nice
Speaker 1: to see Chase On step up and and step into
Speaker 1: a bigger role this season, will maybe a change in
Speaker 1: that defense a little bit with an opportunity to stand up.
Speaker 1: He has that athletic ability to to chase some guys
Speaker 1: down the field if he needs to go out and
Speaker 1: coverage a little bit, boy, if he can get to
Speaker 1: the pastor with that speed he has around the edge
Speaker 1: and standing up, and that's kind of his game, or
Speaker 1: it was at Ellis you at least get back to that.
Speaker 1: That wasn't the case last year for Chase On a
Speaker 1: little bit of a disappointed well for everyone, it was
Speaker 1: a disappointing season a year ago, but certainly for Caleb
Speaker 1: and Chaison who tried to fight through his rookie season.
Speaker 1: Now he's ready to take that next step. Coming up
Speaker 1: a little later in the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour,
Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from Shaquille Griffin and the corner who's
Speaker 1: now in his fourth now fifth in NFL season. Rather,
Speaker 1: he came in as a free agent from the Seattle Seahawks,
Speaker 1: and he loves the Urban Meyer mentality and the the
Speaker 1: idea of Urban being on the field as early as
Speaker 1: he is every day and trying to take an opportunity
Speaker 1: to go visit with most every player he can as
Speaker 1: they walk out on the field and set the tone
Speaker 1: for the day. We'll hear Shaquille Griffin's thoughts on those conversations,
Speaker 1: and he'll give us a little insight to what he
Speaker 1: and Urban discuss on nearly a daily basis before practice
Speaker 1: begins on the Dream Finders Homes Practice Complex. So we're
Speaker 1: looking forward to that. That will come up a little
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Speaker 1: was great to visit with him the other day. By
Speaker 1: the way, he hasn't been over here in a long
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Speaker 1: you know, if this London game continues, which it sounds
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Speaker 1: basis or on a weekly basis in the booth, and is,
Speaker 1: of course the Jaguars career leader in touchdowns one career touchdown,
Speaker 1: sixty eight rushing touchdowns, also a franchise record. Let's hear
Speaker 1: from another Jaguar. He doesn't have any Jaguar records because
Speaker 1: he played only a very short piece of the seven season,
Speaker 1: and in fact, he didn't even get in a game.
Speaker 1: But he's Jim Miller from Sirius XM Radio who was
Speaker 1: here at camp today. Was a quarterback with a number
Speaker 1: of different teams in the NFL, Steelers, the Jags, Falcons,
Speaker 1: Bears for a little while, the Buccaneers and the Patriots.
Speaker 1: His last year in the league was two thousand four.
Speaker 1: Had some time in Europe as well. He's currently the
Speaker 1: Bears preseason television analyst. He's head back to Chicago tomorrow
Speaker 1: to check out the Bears preseason opener. But he had
Speaker 1: plenty of thoughts about the Jaguars organization, Urban Meyer and
Speaker 1: the quarterback position here in Jacksonville. So let's get to it.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars have a new head coach in Urban Meyer,
Speaker 1: settling in. He's super consistent in his message. He'll never deviate,
Speaker 1: whether it's in media in front of the team. You know,
Speaker 1: he has those standards of excellence, and I'm curious everybody
Speaker 1: is if that can translate to the NFL. So far,
Speaker 1: it feels like the guys have bought it. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think he's an artful communicator. I think he's very good
Speaker 1: at it. Uh you know, just even noticing out here
Speaker 1: at practice, you know, he's a very hands on coach.
Speaker 1: You know anybody that I saw, Like I listed three
Speaker 1: guys he had Ozigbo who he called on. They were
Speaker 1: doing some shed blocking drills where he was hands on
Speaker 1: from their chappelle the linebacker uh as Well had Chark
Speaker 1: out there. So he's and it's almost it's almost like
Speaker 1: the price is right. He calls him out, like come
Speaker 1: on down your next up. You know, I'm gonna coach
Speaker 1: up and do some things with you. And part of
Speaker 1: it is getting to know the players. And I'm sure
Speaker 1: he's he's getting to know all these guys right now,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna have some difficult decisions because they're you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's competitive across the board here, I really do.
Speaker 1: I think everybody's got a clean slate from the players
Speaker 1: that were here and the players that they brought in
Speaker 1: when a super free agency and there's a lot of
Speaker 1: them now. They're obviously gonna get opportunities here and they
Speaker 1: know there's some open spots and it's a clean slate
Speaker 1: for all. Surban even this morning said they're still a
Speaker 1: quarterback competition, and that would be the case going in
Speaker 1: maybe all the way to Week one against Houston. Do
Speaker 1: you buy it? Um? No, I agree with it. I
Speaker 1: think that they're they're ultimately going to make a decision.
Speaker 1: I think everybody just kind of by default thinks that's
Speaker 1: gonna be Trevor Lawrence is gonna get in there. But
Speaker 1: you can't just throw the kid to the wolves. You
Speaker 1: know a Darrell Bevil who I know well, what played
Speaker 1: against him in college. You know him as a coach.
Speaker 1: You know, they're gonna know where he's at. Can he
Speaker 1: protect himself? Can he you know, does he understand the
Speaker 1: blitz is, the hot routes, the audibles, all those things,
Speaker 1: and that's gonna show itself. So I think, you know,
Speaker 1: for coach, I don't know why any coach would just
Speaker 1: declare the position open, especially when you've got a young
Speaker 1: guy coming in. You know, I give the example of
Speaker 1: Wilson up there for the for the New York Jets.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately Greg Natt passes away and they really that kids
Speaker 1: not insulated right now. There's not a veteran around him
Speaker 1: that has really played, and it's a young team that
Speaker 1: have have a lot of competitive spots. I think it's
Speaker 1: much better here for Trevor Lawrence. But I think he's
Speaker 1: got to show all those things, not just throw him
Speaker 1: to the Wolves if he if he's ear in the position,
Speaker 1: when he's ready to play, he'll get out there. And
Speaker 1: obviously that's a credit to Gardner Minshew to really come
Speaker 1: out and compete, and he hasn't conceded anything, and he's
Speaker 1: making in a competitive room for Trevor Lawrence. Is the
Speaker 1: future of If it goes Trevor Lawrence's way, Does Gardner
Speaker 1: Minsh you stick around here as the backup? Does he
Speaker 1: have value elsewhere in the league? How do you see
Speaker 1: his value? Well, you know, you listen to Urban Myrie said, Hey,
Speaker 1: this isn't a four year plan, it's a one year plan.
Speaker 1: And I would think Gardner comes in with the most
Speaker 1: experience that God forbid. If Trevor were to go down
Speaker 1: to injury. I think Gardner gives you a better chance
Speaker 1: to win and no offense. To see j Bethard, he
Speaker 1: has played from his standpoint, but to me, Minshew is
Speaker 1: a physical upgrade to him, So to me, I think
Speaker 1: there's value in keeping Minshew here. Jake Luton, the young
Speaker 1: young arm guy, he's a project that's gonna take a
Speaker 1: little more time. Yeah. No, I like Jake Luton. He's
Speaker 1: got a big arm. Again, he got his feet wet
Speaker 1: last year. Wasn't ready from that standpoint, so he's still marinating.
Speaker 1: So they're gonna have obviously a decision to make about
Speaker 1: the backup. But I think if Trevor were to go down,
Speaker 1: if he is the starter, I think Minshew definitely gives
Speaker 1: you an opportunity where you're going to be competitive in games.
Speaker 1: Miller with us from moving the Chains on Serious XM Radio,
Speaker 1: Channel eight, NFL Radio. Alright, offensive line continuity. All five
Speaker 1: starters are back, They've added Walker little, They've got some
Speaker 1: projects in the interior they're working on the last couple
Speaker 1: of years also, but having that continuity and the offensive
Speaker 1: line coach back says a lot about that group. That
Speaker 1: there was some positive performance up front, especially in the
Speaker 1: run game a year ago. Yeah, I'd really liked the
Speaker 1: offensive line here, like you said, because they played together.
Speaker 1: You're you're a lot of teams don't have five guys
Speaker 1: coming back like that. And you know, for Cam, I
Speaker 1: think we knew if if everything were to play out right,
Speaker 1: he plays this year under the franchise, TAGG and you'd
Speaker 1: like to think Walker little has the opportunity. It sounds
Speaker 1: like Walker has been very competitive this camp. He's I've
Speaker 1: worked with or I've talked to a former NFL offensive
Speaker 1: line coach, Paul Alexander, and he actually knows his kid
Speaker 1: very well. He's very competitive. He thinks he's gonna be
Speaker 1: a really a top tier player in the NFL. But again,
Speaker 1: until he's ready, I think he'll be in that swing
Speaker 1: tackle spot. And then you just like that like nice
Speaker 1: process of maturation that maybe he steps in next year
Speaker 1: and and we'll see how it plays out. They drafted
Speaker 1: very good offensive lineman here. You got Cam Robinson on
Speaker 1: the one year franchise deal thirteen point seven million dollars
Speaker 1: and and he bristled a bit the other day when
Speaker 1: he was asked about Walker a little bit. That's what
Speaker 1: competition is about. Yeah, I mean, and it's across the NFL,
Speaker 1: and you know, Cam's got a lot on the line.
Speaker 1: He knows he's got to go out there and prove it.
Speaker 1: From his standpoint, maybe this is his home if if
Speaker 1: he really shows out and pulls out the way he's
Speaker 1: capable of doing. But if the price tag gets too high,
Speaker 1: you know, but you posy year, you've got a guy
Speaker 1: who's ready to supplant him. Well, I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a very good offensive liignment when it's all said
Speaker 1: and done, Miller with us from Serious XM Radio. Defensively,
Speaker 1: this whole thing is brand new. Joe Colin comes in
Speaker 1: his first opportunity as a defensive coordinator in the NFL.
Speaker 1: He's coming from that Baltimore system. He said, they're gonna
Speaker 1: blitz from all over. They'll have guys in different packages.
Speaker 1: So I guess Baltimore's scheme is probably the closest to this.
Speaker 1: You'd say, yeah, yeah, I think it's gonna be a hybrid.
Speaker 1: And obviously, when you when you sign guys who I
Speaker 1: know well, Roy Robertson Harris, he's a very versatile defensive alignment.
Speaker 1: He's an ascending player. And then, like you said, with
Speaker 1: guys you got on the edge with McCrae. You look
Speaker 1: at Josh Allen. Unfortunately for him, he missed some time
Speaker 1: last year. Expecting big things in terms of the pass rush.
Speaker 1: You got good to beefy interior defensive alignment like Hambleton
Speaker 1: and Roy Robinson. Harris to me, he's such a good athlete.
Speaker 1: He can line up in a lot of different places.
Speaker 1: So I think Joe Collin's is gonna manipulate that a
Speaker 1: little bit. Typically that's what Baltimore has done. They dealt
Speaker 1: with some hybrid type of situations and a lot of
Speaker 1: different looks. But you've got to have the corners to cover.
Speaker 1: Needs c J. Henderson to to obviously be healthy and
Speaker 1: Shack Griffin. I think this was a nice home. That's
Speaker 1: a nice signing here from from the outside. From that standpoint,
Speaker 1: but c J obviously getting him up and going is
Speaker 1: gonna be a big part of it because you can
Speaker 1: only blitz if you've got guys on the back end
Speaker 1: who can really deal with that. Man coverage is Roy Robertson.
Speaker 1: Harris's highlight in Chicago, and it felt like the Bears
Speaker 1: the last couple of years just kind of kept having
Speaker 1: him around and he kept getting better and better. But
Speaker 1: now is this chance to come get a big free
Speaker 1: agent Patrick Well, like I said, I think he's an
Speaker 1: ascending player that the problem for him is Belal Nichols
Speaker 1: has really jumped as well. But when Roy Robinson Harris,
Speaker 1: every time he got in the game, he flashed, he
Speaker 1: was making plays, tackles for loss would get sacks. Here,
Speaker 1: hits On On the quarterback was versatile where they could
Speaker 1: move him around. Because people don't understand when he came
Speaker 1: out of college he had a big weight fluctuation. What
Speaker 1: he was asking. He's kind of transformed his body and
Speaker 1: has worked hard and I think he's gonna excel down
Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville, just specifically with what Joe Collen is
Speaker 1: gonna ask him to do with his versatility. What's the
Speaker 1: win lost totals this year? Yeah, I mean when you
Speaker 1: when you look at it, I think it's obviously gonna
Speaker 1: be better than last year. I really believe that. I
Speaker 1: think they'll be able to run the football. You've got
Speaker 1: versatile athletes at the receiver position, Like what they'll be
Speaker 1: able to do with a t n even if he
Speaker 1: lines up in the slot. I think he's almost like
Speaker 1: a James White player, but he's more explosive where you
Speaker 1: can get the home run touchdown from that standpoint. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we know this is a process. Urban has
Speaker 1: probably never had a losing record. I know that for
Speaker 1: a fact. College it may sting a little bit. But
Speaker 1: you're hoping to eight and eight, But you shouldn't say
Speaker 1: at eight nine because now there's the seventeenth game. But
Speaker 1: I'm hoping if they can make that jump where they're
Speaker 1: they're in that seven to eight win terrier, I think
Speaker 1: you're you're looking at his success. Jim Miller from Sirious
Speaker 1: x M NFL Radio Channel eight eight good to catch
Speaker 1: up with him today on the practice field as the
Speaker 1: Jaguars continued their preparation. Yet Roy Robertson Harris. He had
Speaker 1: a firsthand look in Chicago the last few years at him,
Speaker 1: and it was great to hear his thoughts on what
Speaker 1: Robertson Harris could bring. And I think we've seen that
Speaker 1: early in camp as well. There has been some moments
Speaker 1: where that big fellow in the middle or towards the
Speaker 1: interior steps up and and makes some plays on defense.
Speaker 1: Let's see it in in some real games coming up.
Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit in the preseason, but that's a
Speaker 1: good sign. And uh, you know, Roy Robertson Harris so
Speaker 1: far is right there at the number one spot at
Speaker 1: defensive end on the depth chart that came out the
Speaker 1: other day. So he slated it as a starter as
Speaker 1: it stands right now on the defensive line. Uh. And
Speaker 1: then his thoughts on Travis e t N quite interesting,
Speaker 1: James White, was a comparison maybe that e t N
Speaker 1: could be like in the NFL, how they could use
Speaker 1: him out of that backfield spot. Uh, we'll see. I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing what e t N can bring.
Speaker 1: By the way, we're going through depth charts. E t
Speaker 1: N is third on the depth chart currently. James Robinson
Speaker 1: or Carlos Hide our number one and then it's e
Speaker 1: t N and Dario gunboal a O zigbo controller down
Speaker 1: there as well. Plenty ahead. We'll come back in a moment.
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars listened to ten ten XL home of the
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. I just met with most really the whole,
Speaker 1: all the units on the team, and I think to
Speaker 1: be fairer. What's the expectation. And the expectation is I
Speaker 1: want a clean game. You know, we spend an amount
Speaker 1: of in order amount of time on fundamentals of the game. UM,
Speaker 1: and I expect a winner mentality, winner mentality that every
Speaker 1: played over the The reality is that there's people crossing me.
Speaker 1: You're trying to take your job, you're trying to you
Speaker 1: you're some of these guys are in survival both and
Speaker 1: I respect that. And so how do we you know,
Speaker 1: we're going to back off a lot of the two
Speaker 1: was in threes. They're gonna play the majority of the
Speaker 1: game for plus plays, get their legs back because a
Speaker 1: lot of guys are blown out right now. So a
Speaker 1: clean game, taking care of the football, hustling on and
Speaker 1: off the field. Uh. And then competitors. Every grade, every
Speaker 1: play is gonna be grade at and you either win
Speaker 1: the RAPP or you lose the REPP. And that's I'm
Speaker 1: hoping you see a real competitive group Saturday. That's head
Speaker 1: coach Irvian Meyer this morning before practice his expectations for
Speaker 1: Saturday nights preseason opener the Jaguars and the Cleveland Browns
Speaker 1: coming up. JP Shadrick on Jaguars Happy Hour, Jaguars analyst
Speaker 1: Jeff Lackerman joining us, and good afternoon, lots. It's a
Speaker 1: good afternoon, it is. Yeah, it was a good practice today,
Speaker 1: another spirited practice, but a no padded practice. A little surprising.
Speaker 1: That's the first thing you said when I saw you
Speaker 1: when we walked out of the practice field together. What
Speaker 1: in the world. Let me just talking about why? Because
Speaker 1: the guy's legs are kind of shot and he's talking
Speaker 1: about the two and threes and the force to some extent,
Speaker 1: those guys are gonna get a lot of reps. And
Speaker 1: I've always been a big believer in this. But it
Speaker 1: didn't mean that the coaches that I played for were
Speaker 1: on the same page as me, because that wasn't their
Speaker 1: job to be on the same page as me. But
Speaker 1: I was always a big believer in that you've got
Speaker 1: to let the players rest because if you really want
Speaker 1: to have an accurate accounting of what their abilities are,
Speaker 1: then why not get them and their bodies ready to
Speaker 1: show you what they can do, what they really can do,
Speaker 1: not when they're fatigued and their camp legs are weary,
Speaker 1: but when they're at their best and they're fresh and
Speaker 1: ready to go, Because is that not the situation that
Speaker 1: you want to have them performing at the end of
Speaker 1: the day. If it's really all about the players and
Speaker 1: increasing their value and making sure things are great all around,
Speaker 1: that that's part of that to to kind of people.
Speaker 1: A lot of people might be out there saying, what
Speaker 1: are you, what are you talking about? What? To give
Speaker 1: you a comparison and go back to the Coughlin era.
Speaker 1: He was always about get the working, get the working,
Speaker 1: get the work in, and then we never really backed
Speaker 1: off prior to the preseason games early on in the preseason.
Speaker 1: He backed off a little bit when we got into
Speaker 1: the regular season. And so the I always thought that
Speaker 1: the evaluation was a little bit slanted because the players
Speaker 1: weren't fresh to play a game, like when we went
Speaker 1: to the the Hall of Fame game. I mean, our
Speaker 1: legs weren't fresh underneath of us at all, you know,
Speaker 1: So how do you really know what a guy can
Speaker 1: do if if he wasn't even fresh and ready to
Speaker 1: go in a game type situation. So I like Urban's
Speaker 1: way of thinking here because that is the evaluation that
Speaker 1: you want. I mean, you want to be able to
Speaker 1: look at guys in a in a game setting, because
Speaker 1: I've seen too many guys that we're all due val
Speaker 1: and then couldn't make the All State team. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? I know what you I know what
Speaker 1: you mean. It sounds like you know. It brings up
Speaker 1: another conversation too, about the approach to the rate the
Speaker 1: preseason games this year. In the past, of course, at
Speaker 1: least in the recent past, there have been four preseason
Speaker 1: games back in the old days of six or seven
Speaker 1: if you're in the Hall of Fame game all that.
Speaker 1: That's a long time ago. Now down to three with
Speaker 1: basically you have two weeks from the final preseason game
Speaker 1: to the first regular season game, with a final cut
Speaker 1: in thereafter on that Tuesday after the Sunday game. That
Speaker 1: is a lot of time, and how do you manage
Speaker 1: reps and playing time every It feels like there are
Speaker 1: a lot of different strategies, at least in week one.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any clear cut formula that's the
Speaker 1: that's better than one or another. I think everything really
Speaker 1: needs to be patterned or custom fit to your football team.
Speaker 1: You've got a young football team and it needs reps,
Speaker 1: and this team is a perfect example of that. Then
Speaker 1: I think you give them reps. If you have a
Speaker 1: football team that's veteran, then you give them just enough
Speaker 1: to maybe tune up. Look at what Andy Reid's talking
Speaker 1: about doing with the Kansas City Chiefs. He's talking about
Speaker 1: having Patrick Mahomes play a quarter or something close to
Speaker 1: it in the first preseason game. But now, what healthy
Speaker 1: well and what will the approach be, Because here's the thing.
Speaker 1: In the last couple of years, it's been kind of
Speaker 1: vogue to not play guys at all, and there's some
Speaker 1: guys I think that you could probably take that approach with.
Speaker 1: Do you need to find out if a j Can
Speaker 1: is gonna be a good right guard or a solid
Speaker 1: right guard? I know that I think he's gonna be okay.
Speaker 1: Do do I know that Leonard is gonna be okay
Speaker 1: at center? Yeah? I got a pretty good idea. Now
Speaker 1: they might have a personal Hey, we want to get
Speaker 1: just get flowing at least one game, just to get
Speaker 1: some something, you know. I think Calais was a little
Speaker 1: bit like that. I want to get a little bit
Speaker 1: of something done in a couple of games. I'm a
Speaker 1: big believer in that you should get reps. I'm not
Speaker 1: a big believer. I'm not I'm not in on the
Speaker 1: train that says don't play your guys in the preseason
Speaker 1: at all. But with the three preseason games, a lot
Speaker 1: of people are saying, well, well, the third preseason game
Speaker 1: become what the fourth preseason game used to be, where
Speaker 1: nobody plays. Well. No, you've got two weeks to be
Speaker 1: able to have off between the last preseason game and
Speaker 1: in the first regular season game. So I think there's
Speaker 1: no approach. It's right. I'm a big believer in that
Speaker 1: you've got to give guys some just to get them ready,
Speaker 1: especially the younger they are, the more they need. But
Speaker 1: you don't overdo it either if you know a guy
Speaker 1: can play, because you know part of this process of
Speaker 1: the preseason is also about evaluation. It's an aid to
Speaker 1: allow the personnel people and the coaches to say, this
Speaker 1: is our fifty three and if you look at it
Speaker 1: from that standpoint, you know you don't need to overdo
Speaker 1: it as well. J. P. Shadrick, Jeff Loghman The Jaguar
Speaker 1: is Happy Hour on a Thursday afternoon preseason week one.
Speaker 1: The Jags and the Browns coming up this Saturday night. So,
Speaker 1: Coach Lockerman, how long will Trevor Lawrence play? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, if if for me making the decision, if
Speaker 1: I'm coach lockhaman I'm I'm probably having him play a
Speaker 1: quarter quarter and a half maybe that long. Sure, alternating
Speaker 1: with Minshew with the ones, it feels like they're both
Speaker 1: gonna get time here. I think here, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I want to have Trevor Lawrence out there with my
Speaker 1: number one offensive line. That's yeah, and and Urban earlier
Speaker 1: today kind of hinted at that in one of his
Speaker 1: answers about playing time we were gonna play. I got
Speaker 1: to see about what upfront and all. That didn't really
Speaker 1: go all the way with that answer, but it felt
Speaker 1: like he was going in that direction. Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: For me, I would like to have him protected and yeah,
Speaker 1: and the best way to protect him is to play
Speaker 1: him with that number one offensive line. Now, there's some
Speaker 1: guys maybe that you could sub in and out of there.
Speaker 1: For example, if if Lender, for example, goes out, Shatley's in.
Speaker 1: That doesn't worry. He started so many games Tyler Shatley's
Speaker 1: good football player. You know. So if if Walker Little
Speaker 1: comes out at left tackle or goes in at left
Speaker 1: tackle on Cam Robinson comes out, that doesn't worry me.
Speaker 1: It doesn't hasn't played a snap in the league. I
Speaker 1: don't care if he hasn't played a snap or not
Speaker 1: in the league. Watch watch the guy practice. He's pretty good. So,
Speaker 1: I mean there's certain situations, but you know, and and
Speaker 1: who starts first and who starts second, And I'm sure
Speaker 1: the coaching staff is going to talk about that at
Speaker 1: some point tonight, I think. Is that what they said tonight? Uh? So,
Speaker 1: I mean, however that plays out, as however it plays out,
Speaker 1: But I would just however it plays out, I want
Speaker 1: my number one offensive line with Trevor Lawrence. Okay, I'll
Speaker 1: say this though, fans around here have been waiting a
Speaker 1: long long time to hear the announcement of number sixteen
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and him run out of that tunnel. I
Speaker 1: know they're probably gonna run as a team that you know,
Speaker 1: as that goes these days, but uh, to see him
Speaker 1: run out and then run into the game first, look,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I want to hear his name announce
Speaker 1: because I want to be able to hear and feel
Speaker 1: the fan reaction because I think it will be if,
Speaker 1: if it does happen, it will be something that's something
Speaker 1: that you'll remember. I mean, especially if we're talking about
Speaker 1: a player that we look back ten fifteen years from
Speaker 1: now and there's multiple Super Bowl participations and victories that
Speaker 1: are on the table, and you sit to you and
Speaker 1: I remember that moment the first time he was ever ounce.
Speaker 1: I mean, you'll you'll go back to that moment. And
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'd like to hear it too, you know,
Speaker 1: I'd like to hear it in a big way. And
Speaker 1: I can tell you this watching him in practice today
Speaker 1: and JP, you've said it to me before, and we've
Speaker 1: talked about this. You say that there's typically three or
Speaker 1: four balls that you see in practice and you go,
Speaker 1: oh my god, uh wow, he had that one today.
Speaker 1: There was one of them. It was that deep ball.
Speaker 1: There was Marvin Jones and did he catch it? Did
Speaker 1: he not catch it? He can referee rule that it
Speaker 1: was a catch, But there are very few people on
Speaker 1: the planet they can make a throw like that. And
Speaker 1: I'm standing there with Pat Kirwin, okay, and Jim Miller,
Speaker 1: and I just got done telling him you're lying about
Speaker 1: there's always a few throws in a credit. You know,
Speaker 1: I used it as my own. Oh, of course he
Speaker 1: makes the throw and I turned the gym and and Pat,
Speaker 1: you know, and I've known those guys a long time.
Speaker 1: Jim was a teammate for a short period of time,
Speaker 1: and Pat and I go back to thee with the Jets,
Speaker 1: and these are the guys that do series x M
Speaker 1: NFL radio. We heard from Jim earlier and Pat and
Speaker 1: Jim both turned to look at me and go So
Speaker 1: that's obviously one of the throws that you're talking about
Speaker 1: that he makes every practice I'll make. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: that was one. Yeah, that was one of them. Put
Speaker 1: that one on the list. Yeah, they're like wow. You know,
Speaker 1: Pat Carwin was was extremely impressed. And by the way,
Speaker 1: it was good catching up with those guys. Those two
Speaker 1: guys are good dudes. They did a good job on
Speaker 1: the radio. They do. They do a good job, and
Speaker 1: they call me up every now and again to go
Speaker 1: on when the Jaguars are good, which hasn't been My
Speaker 1: phone hasn't been ringing much lately. But but Pat, Pat
Speaker 1: was brought on board a long time ago because at
Speaker 1: the time when I was in New York, he was
Speaker 1: working at Hofstra in some capacity and then eventually has
Speaker 1: a prominent role with with the Jets, and then eventually
Speaker 1: did some stuff with Pete Carroll and and now he's
Speaker 1: doing radio good Guy, great guy, and uh and those
Speaker 1: football final thought in this segment here, you know, the
Speaker 1: first depth art came out, and there's always a lot
Speaker 1: of dissection, dissection of that first step chart and what
Speaker 1: it means and who's in the and all these things.
Speaker 1: Let's touch on offense. We'll get the defense coming up
Speaker 1: just a little bit. I found it interesting that the
Speaker 1: running back room is James Robinson or Carlos Hide, and
Speaker 1: then it's Travis et In along with those Zigbo and
Speaker 1: the third unit if you will, and then Ogu and
Speaker 1: Vally and ConTroll at the very bottom. But the Robinson
Speaker 1: Hide or Combo. I find that interesting. Um, First of all,
Speaker 1: Carlos Hides a veteran. Is he on par with James
Speaker 1: Robinson's an eighth eighth year pro. No way. I'll say
Speaker 1: he's in better shape than he was when he was
Speaker 1: here before. He's in much better shape. And I got
Speaker 1: looking he's he's been good now he's been good wherever
Speaker 1: he's been. But yeah, after here just telling you did
Speaker 1: j P. He is not James Robinson. Okay, James Robinson
Speaker 1: is one of the better backs in the National Football League,
Speaker 1: and he's probably the fastest back to the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage when the ball snapped and I'm talking about from
Speaker 1: the time the ball is snapped to the running back
Speaker 1: crossing the line of scrimmage. There's not anybody faster in
Speaker 1: the league than James Robinson. He doesn't waste any time
Speaker 1: he plants, and he's downhill fast. And James Robinson, to me,
Speaker 1: is the undisputed starter, and I think E. T N
Speaker 1: is not. And maybe, and I'm just thinking out loud here,
Speaker 1: if I was wanting to find a way to push E.
Speaker 1: T N, I might name Hide and James Robinson as
Speaker 1: co starters just to kind of, you know, give them
Speaker 1: a little extra just to let him know that, hey, look,
Speaker 1: you've got some work to do. Yeah, or put them three,
Speaker 1: But but putting them as behind the coast arters, maybe
Speaker 1: that'd given a little nuics And I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: that's what that was the intent there. But let me
Speaker 1: ask you a question. Hit me, how many little drop passes.
Speaker 1: Have we seen out of Travis E. T N in
Speaker 1: the last tweak? Yeah, not many, we have, Yes, we have,
Speaker 1: there's been, there's been a number of them. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's part of the consistency. I think that they want
Speaker 1: to see out of him. But still, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a dynamic player. And and
Speaker 1: the guy has I'm talking game breaking speed, but you
Speaker 1: gotta catch it before you can show the game breaking speed.
Speaker 1: And he's had a little bit of drops and that
Speaker 1: is something that I think his concentration, the consistency still
Speaker 1: got to be there. But I think he is going
Speaker 1: to be a really good one. Yeah, he's gotta earn
Speaker 1: it though. But the other co starters, You've got Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence and Gardner Minshew's co starters. And I've I've said
Speaker 1: this before. I mean, for me, it's you know, it's
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew is a is a good backup. And I
Speaker 1: think that Trevor Lawrence is clearly as like we saw
Speaker 1: and I made the comment to Pat today and and
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to say this to be mean,
Speaker 1: but that passed that Trevor Lawrence through the Deep one Okay,
Speaker 1: to Marvin Jones, if you gave Gardner Minshew the opportunity
Speaker 1: to try to make that throw ten times? Can he
Speaker 1: make it? Can you make it ten times? No? No, no, no?
Speaker 1: Can gave him can he make that throw one time
Speaker 1: out of ten? I mean I'd give him one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it would be hard, it would be more difficult. Listen.
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to be critical. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: be real. I'm just saying that Trevor Lawrence was a
Speaker 1: first overall, a consensus number one overall pick for a reason.
Speaker 1: Lit's guy, I have special tests, right, Lawrence has some
Speaker 1: arrows in the quiver that mens she just doesn't it
Speaker 1: just doesn't have. And and there's no, there's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with that because there might be things and Gardner Minshew's
Speaker 1: arsenal that Trevor Lawrence doesn't have. But but that arm
Speaker 1: and the build ability to make a throw like that,
Speaker 1: that's tremendous. We'll come back in a moment. Logs defensive talk.
Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on the defensive line
Speaker 1: and a couple of bunch of co starters on defense
Speaker 1: in this step chart too. Quite a few, oh yes,
Speaker 1: quite a few. But I have opinions. I'm sure you do,
Speaker 1: and we can't wait to hear them when we come back.
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Speaker 1: discussion of the quarterback competition for the Jaguars coming up,
Speaker 1: but first logs, let's get to the injury report presented
Speaker 1: by Baptist Health, changing healthcare for good. Dylan Moses on
Speaker 1: the active non football injury list. That feels like a
Speaker 1: longer term situation. Maybe a project head linebacker for Moses.
Speaker 1: Reserve COVID nineteen list. Daniel Thomas still officially on TAVAN.
Speaker 1: Brian was pulling some weight around behind him on the
Speaker 1: side today. It looked like so he's on the way back.
Speaker 1: That's what Irvan Meyer said at least today, that maybe
Speaker 1: today is the last day to get him back off
Speaker 1: that list. And then urban Meyer had some other updates
Speaker 1: this morning on players. A couple of guys out. DJ
Speaker 1: Chark of course with a finger fracture. He's out, and
Speaker 1: Meyer said earlier he could be ready for should be
Speaker 1: ready for Week one. Left guard Andrew Norwell with an
Speaker 1: elbow issue. He will not play Saturday. Another couple of
Speaker 1: guys he mentioned, Rudy Ford, the safety with a lower
Speaker 1: body issue. There's a chance he could play Saturday and
Speaker 1: then wide receiver Philip Door set the second with a
Speaker 1: hamstring tightness possible to play on Saturday night. And he
Speaker 1: said Logs that everybody else is not listed here, get
Speaker 1: ready to get some reps in. That's ah, it's exciting
Speaker 1: because about this time in camp you're just chomping at
Speaker 1: the bit to finally face somebody else. You means you're tired.
Speaker 1: You're tired of again going against the same old guys,
Speaker 1: and it feels to get gets a little monotonous, and
Speaker 1: you've got to kind of fight through camp. But man,
Speaker 1: when you get the first preseason game, it's kind of
Speaker 1: like a breath of fresh air. It's like, Okay, now
Speaker 1: it's it's time, it's showtime. Let's go. They've had some
Speaker 1: receivers kind of in and out the last week or so.
Speaker 1: They had to sign some guys, so that was a
Speaker 1: little four or five days ago, so they've had they
Speaker 1: got a lot of receivers on the roster right now
Speaker 1: and they're going to get a lot of reps. Let's
Speaker 1: talk defense down Logs, and you know we were we
Speaker 1: were going before the break, going through the depth chart
Speaker 1: of there's three different positions with co starters going into
Speaker 1: preseason week one. And this is when you mentioned a
Speaker 1: while back, Joe Scholbern and Damien Wilson are listed as
Speaker 1: the starting MIC linebackers and and look, I think both
Speaker 1: of these guys are very capable. I think both of
Speaker 1: them are very capable at playing on first and second down.
Speaker 1: I think there might be a little bit of a
Speaker 1: slight edge to Joe Schobert once you get the third down.
Speaker 1: I think he has a little bit more speed. But look,
Speaker 1: Joe Schobert has been a tackling machine for a long time.
Speaker 1: And Damien Wilson is physical, I mean physical, He's got
Speaker 1: he's bigger, he's more physical, and he has the scheme
Speaker 1: probably already imprinted in his brain because he's he's been
Speaker 1: in it before. So it's a it's a good, it's
Speaker 1: a good. You know, the more you have competition, just
Speaker 1: for example, the left tackle position with Cam Robinson and
Speaker 1: walk a little competition is good, man. And and the
Speaker 1: more you have it, the better off it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: And I know there's a couple of other positions at cornerback.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of co starters in Sidney Jones, who
Speaker 1: is a veteran guy coming back from an injury. And
Speaker 1: then the second round pick, Tyson Campbell, who uh he
Speaker 1: should be the Marvel superhero called the Shadow because the
Speaker 1: guy can run and he's right in the hip pocket
Speaker 1: of wide receivers playing man. I mean, he's that good
Speaker 1: shadow he I mean, seriously, that was a cool name
Speaker 1: for him. Is that copyrighted? I don't think so, But
Speaker 1: we should rush out and do it. I think if
Speaker 1: we could do that online right now, but seriously, I
Speaker 1: think I would. I had to give him. I called
Speaker 1: him the Shadow because I mean when I watched his
Speaker 1: college film, I mean, he was always right there. And
Speaker 1: when you watch him even out there now against the
Speaker 1: top of higher end talent than what he faced in college,
Speaker 1: he's doing them of the same exact things that you
Speaker 1: watched him do in college, and and he has elite speed.
Speaker 1: And the guys that can stay with somebody, like when
Speaker 1: I said, when I call him Shadow, the guys that
Speaker 1: can't do that are the ones that don't have elite
Speaker 1: speed because they're always trying to make up for the
Speaker 1: lack of speed by maybe playing them a little bit
Speaker 1: more off. The guys that truly have elite speed they're
Speaker 1: not worried about somebody running by because they know they've
Speaker 1: got the speed to be able to make up and
Speaker 1: and catch them. And that's what this young man, Tyson
Speaker 1: Campbell has. He's a good one. And now on the
Speaker 1: back end of that, doesn't have ball skills that there's
Speaker 1: a little bit of weakness. That's the one area that
Speaker 1: he's got to work on. I say, doesn't have ball
Speaker 1: skills ability to knock it down, but in some cases
Speaker 1: he's in position to where make a play on the
Speaker 1: ball and intercepted, which is what Like Andre Cisco, he's
Speaker 1: one of the best at it. He's fantastic at it
Speaker 1: up at Syracuse SO And the other position on the
Speaker 1: back end of the defense of free safety, Rashon Jenkins
Speaker 1: is the starter at least on the first step charge
Speaker 1: strong safety. There are four co starters, Josh Jones or
Speaker 1: Jared Wilson, or Rudy Ford or Andre Cisco. And that's
Speaker 1: a good battle. I mean, Jared Wilson has been the
Speaker 1: starter here for a number of years. Josh Jones has
Speaker 1: been a has a very physical element to his game,
Speaker 1: is a little bit of a liability I think and
Speaker 1: coverage sometimes, but if you're gonna play him in the box,
Speaker 1: he might have a little bit of an advantage. And
Speaker 1: Rudy Ford's a physical guy. Uh. Cisco Is I think
Speaker 1: is eventually the heir apparent just because of his ball skills.
Speaker 1: If he doesn't win it out right, well, but you
Speaker 1: remember now he's coming back from believing a c L.
Speaker 1: That's pretty significant injury that he had. So what he's
Speaker 1: been out there every day as far as he has
Speaker 1: been in here, and he and you know a lot
Speaker 1: of guys that you see come back and I've had
Speaker 1: an a c L and and uh, and it's not
Speaker 1: easy in There are moments where you just don't feel normal.
Speaker 1: But when you watch him, you don't see any signs
Speaker 1: of him favoring that knee. So that's really good for
Speaker 1: the Jaguars from that standpoint, great news for sure. I'm
Speaker 1: curious on a Saturday night, it's our first chance to
Speaker 1: see Urban Meyer and the coaching staff in a live
Speaker 1: game situation. We always talk about the players and the
Speaker 1: way they do it between the white lines on the field,
Speaker 1: but the communication between coaches I think will be key.
Speaker 1: And Urban Meyers said today that Darryl Bevil will be
Speaker 1: in the booth. This year, the offensive coordinator, Schottenheimer will
Speaker 1: be on the field and he will communicate with the
Speaker 1: quarterback in the headset. Urban Meyer will be on the
Speaker 1: field obviously as well as part of that communication process.
Speaker 1: But having a veteran NFL coaching staff around the quarterback
Speaker 1: and around the offense was important for Urban logs to
Speaker 1: to really try to figure out how to handle a
Speaker 1: quarterback and how to handle some in game communication and
Speaker 1: two minute drills and and things like that that are
Speaker 1: just different in the NFL than they are back in college.
Speaker 1: I think this might this might have been one of
Speaker 1: the great strength of urban Meyer was putting the offensive
Speaker 1: staff together. When I'm talking about is the tandem of
Speaker 1: Bevil and Schottenheimer. If you didn't have two guys like that,
Speaker 1: then you'd want to make sure that you had the
Speaker 1: strongest voice on the sideline with your quarterback. So, in
Speaker 1: other words, if you didn't have Schottenheimer, Bevil would probably
Speaker 1: stay on the sideline because you've got to have somebody
Speaker 1: that can talk to the young quarterback. But with Schottenheimer
Speaker 1: that gives you the luxury of Okay, now we have
Speaker 1: two people that can talk to the quarterback. One of
Speaker 1: them and and I'm sure that there's some type of
Speaker 1: an arrangement that they have worked out, because you don't
Speaker 1: want to get two guys always in one in each
Speaker 1: ear to where it just becomes where Trevor Lawrence is
Speaker 1: sitting there going, oh my gosh, okay, came to both
Speaker 1: of you, stopped talking, just let me hear one and so.
Speaker 1: But when you watch him practice, Schottenheimer is the one
Speaker 1: who does a lot of the talking directly with Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence and with the quarterbacks and bevil and make sure
Speaker 1: that he doesn't over impose himself. So and I like
Speaker 1: having coordinators in the booth. I think it detaches from
Speaker 1: the emotion of the game and allows them to be
Speaker 1: a strategic play caller. And I like very calm, very calm,
Speaker 1: out of the fray. But then some coaches like to
Speaker 1: be in the fray because they feel like they have
Speaker 1: to feel their team, feel their players, find out where
Speaker 1: they're at so that they have an understanding of what
Speaker 1: they want to do. But that's the responsibility also of
Speaker 1: the coaches on the field. But overall, this is all
Speaker 1: new for this coaching staff and urban Meyer, so this
Speaker 1: is not only preseason for the players from a lot
Speaker 1: of standpoints. But this is also the preseason for a
Speaker 1: coaching staff that has a very nice blend of college
Speaker 1: and pro experience coaches. Hey, Urban, you need to challenge
Speaker 1: this call. He's never had that in his headset before. No,
Speaker 1: he's never had, you know, And look, we have this
Speaker 1: many challenges left. Urban's no, he's a smart guy, you know.
Speaker 1: And and smart guys figure things out. And if they
Speaker 1: can't figure something out, then they're gonna ask for help.
Speaker 1: And Urban is able to call on lots of different
Speaker 1: people for help, now, okay. And perfect example is Jimmy
Speaker 1: Johnson was in the house. Hall of Famer Jimmy Johnson.
Speaker 1: Congratulations to him. He was around this week. And that's
Speaker 1: what you do. I mean, if you don't know, then
Speaker 1: you ask questions so that you do know. One other
Speaker 1: person in the house this week was somebody that had
Speaker 1: coacher Vermeyer met when he toured the out East neighborhood
Speaker 1: earlier this year. Royce fed was his name, and he
Speaker 1: regularly cooks for the community on a small grill and
Speaker 1: for folks that are around in that neighborhood. It's just
Speaker 1: above the stadium here above the Arlington Expressway. That's kind
Speaker 1: of the out east neighborhood there. Well, Coach Meyron avoided
Speaker 1: invited him to practice the other day and then Coach
Speaker 1: Meyron on behalf of shod Conning. The organization gave Royce
Speaker 1: a new grill, and not just a grill, this is
Speaker 1: a monster smoker logs. This thing was unbelievable. Uh, first
Speaker 1: of all, it was eight meeting roys. I actually got
Speaker 1: to to drive the side by side a t V, U,
Speaker 1: TV whatever you wanna call and pull the grill out
Speaker 1: to them. They couldn't. They couldn't find a driver. The
Speaker 1: guy that was going to drive it. If anybody has experienced,
Speaker 1: they're looking around and going, okay, wait, lock Himan on
Speaker 1: to know how to drive a side by side either
Speaker 1: red neck. So they grabbed me and I hop on
Speaker 1: it and we drive it out there and and uh
Speaker 1: and it was awesome. It was awesome to see the reaction.
Speaker 1: What a cool gesture that Urban Meyer in the organization had.
Speaker 1: And this is one heck of a cooker. Let's come
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