1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: to you by citizens Official Bank of the Giants. I'm 3 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: here in the Hackensack Marine Hill Podcast studio keep getting better, 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: and we're joined by front of the program. 5 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: He joins us every year around this time. 6 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: He is Joel Corey, former NFL agent, does a great 7 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: job covering everything for agency contracts, economics of the NFL 8 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: for CBS. 9 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: Joel, what's going on, man? 10 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 3: How are you doing great? 11 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: How are you doing I'm doing great, man, Thanks for 12 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: being with us always. Giants in an interesting spot here, 13 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: So I guess let's start with with their housekeeping first. 14 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: There are reports out there that they're gonna let go 15 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: of Bobbiokarakeda to free us some cap space. They have 16 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: a bunch of other veterans they can do the same with. 17 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: But if they do want to be really more aggressive 18 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: and spend, if John Harbor really wants to remake this 19 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: team in his image, they're gonna have to do some 20 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: more work on guys that will remain on the roster 21 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: with some big contracts. When you look at this from 22 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: your perspective, who are some of the guys that you 23 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: think are the easy moves to restructure, convert some base 24 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: salary to signing bonus to free of some extra space. 25 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 3: Well, the first guy that screams out as Brian Burns, 26 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 3: he's a guy to thirty six point five to five 27 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: million dollar cap hit. He's got twenty five point five 28 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 3: million dollars in cash. It depends on whether they want 29 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 3: to add void years or just do the conversion through 30 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: the existing years. So he's let's say you converted everything, 31 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: but it's twenty four point zero five million base salary, 32 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 3: leaving the league minimum of one point three million. You're 33 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 3: converting twenty two point seventy five million. Now, if you 34 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 3: don't want to add void years, you pick up a 35 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: little more than fifteen million. If you want to add 36 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 3: void years, you can get eighteen to two. That's just 37 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 3: whether they want to do that or not. Then you 38 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 3: got another offensive lineman, I mean another defensive linement. I 39 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: should say. You can look at in Dexter Lawrence. He's 40 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 3: under contract for two years, so you would probably want 41 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 3: to add void years if you're gonna do him. If 42 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: you don't add any void years, you're gonna pick up 43 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 3: eight point six million cap space because you'd be converting 44 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 3: seventeen point two million of his eighteen point five million 45 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 3: dollar base salary. If you can, if you added three 46 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: voiding years, stretch out to pro race over five years, 47 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 3: and you're getting thirteen point seven six million. Now going 48 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:21,119 Speaker 3: to the offensive line, Andrew Donalds would make sense. He's 49 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 3: got to cap it a little over twenty four million. 50 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 3: He's under cont tract for I think four years, So 51 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: if you don't add void years, then you're going to 52 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: create I think twelve point one million, So you can 53 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 3: get there and have enough cap room to room to 54 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 3: maneuver and free agency if you want to. I know 55 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 3: Baltimore used to restructure a ton of cont tracts. Harbaugh 56 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: wasn't the cap guy there obviously, and Dona Ponte's come 57 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: from the League office and she's been in Miami among 58 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 3: other places as some one who's managed to cap. If 59 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 3: you really want to make a splash and free agency, 60 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 3: you will have the ability to do so. 61 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 2: Would you think about abouching some of those contracts on 62 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: defense that that you signed last year most of them 63 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: were three year deals or do you think that gets 64 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: a little bit dicey in terms of redoing some of those. 65 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a little harder to do. Although you did 66 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 3: a minor restructure of passing the depot during the season 67 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 3: for a three year deal, you you'd have to add 68 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: void years just because you are only under contract through 69 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven. I would go to those three before 70 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: I go to anybody else. 71 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that makes sense. You mentioned doing a 72 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: ponte Real quickly as an aside. 73 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: Have you had much experience with her? What have you 74 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: heard from her from your from your contract? 75 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 3: I really I didn't have a chance to deal for much. 76 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: But she's got a reputation for being a tough negotiator. 77 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: Interesting. 78 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: Well, have to see how that goes this year as 79 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: she works with Joshan and John Harbo up in the 80 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: Giants front office. All right, so if you figure out 81 00:03:58,680 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: away and then they're obviously interesting. 82 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 3: She reports the Harbor. So that's interesting. 83 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: So when you take a look at some of the 84 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: veterans that they have and that you can create some 85 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: more space that way, give me a twenty thousand foot 86 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: foot view of this free agency class, Joel, And it 87 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,679 Speaker 1: could change now between now and when this airs. Jowan Taylor, 88 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: for example, just got informed by the Chiefs that he's 89 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: going to let go so more guys could enter the pool, admittedly, 90 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: but what's your twenty thousand foot view of this free 91 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: agency class. 92 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: Well, with every free agency class, it's the B list. 93 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 3: And I say that because the guys that you really 94 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 3: want to keep get contract extentionis of course, you do 95 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 3: have a unique situation this year with Tyler Linda Linderbaum 96 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 3: being free. You typically don't see an offensive alignment of 97 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 3: his caliber on the open market, and that's just a 98 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 3: quirk and how the system works. His fifth year option 99 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: wasn't picked up in Baltimore, not because of ability, but 100 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 3: because the cost was going to be the franchise tag 101 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: number for offensive alignment last year, since he went to 102 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 3: two Pro Bowls in his first three years, and the 103 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 3: offensive linement tag number doesn't differentiate between guards, centers, and tackles. 104 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 3: It's primarily made up of left tackles. So with twenty 105 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 3: three point four million that had no relation to the 106 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: center market has paid center. It's Creed Humphrey eighteen million. 107 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: So you got him on the open market, and a 108 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 3: guy like that should never hit the open market. He 109 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 3: will reset the center market. Eric DaCosta already came out 110 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 3: and said he's offered him a market seting deal. Now, 111 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 3: I don't know if that means the offer of eighteen 112 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 3: point one two five million, eighteen five, but I don't 113 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: see any universe where there's a Tyler lindenba linderbaumb dial 114 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: done were the first? Isn't a two? 115 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: No, I agree with you, and I think there'll be 116 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: a lot of they give you go to some of 117 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: these team you know, reporters that cover these teams. Everyone 118 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: seems to happen on like on the top of their 119 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: target list, but everyone needs offensive linemen. So yeah, I 120 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: think the market. 121 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 3: Season that's how you get a crazy number. 122 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 2: Yep. 123 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 3: If he's got three four suitors out there and the 124 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 3: agent can play them off against each other, and you've 125 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 3: got a team like the Chargers that cut their cut 126 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: their center and their ties to the Ravens. Because their 127 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 3: general manager came from Baltimore, they'll overpay him. They got 128 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 3: cap room. The Commanders just got rid of their center. 129 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 3: The Bears had their young twenty seven year old center, 130 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: Drew domand and retire yesterday, which was surprising, So this 131 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 3: could line up for him getting a crazy number. Of 132 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 3: Titans cut their center and they've got a ton of caperroom. 133 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: The Raiders have a ton of caper room. He could 134 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 3: get some number where when it's all said and done, 135 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: people are thinking about it in the same way they 136 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: did Milton Williams deal last year. Milton Williams went from 137 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: a rotational defensive lineman to one of the highest five 138 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: highest paid in tier defensive lineman twenty six million a year. 139 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that Linderbaum's gonna get twenty six million year, 140 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: but he's gonna put some distance between himself and create 141 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 3: Humphrey at eighteen million pier. 142 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on that one hundred percent. And 143 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: by the way, if folks just for the record, obviously 144 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: the Giants don't confirm with salaries of players everything, but 145 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: this is public data that we're working off of. And 146 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: in terms of phragy next week not connecting police players 147 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: to these teams today that will be free agents, we'll 148 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: talk about what could happen in the future. So Joe, 149 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: let's talk about what the Giants have and the questions 150 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: they have to figure out. We'll start on the offensive line, 151 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: because you went there with Linderbaum, You've made a Lumina 152 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: was a free agent and when I call this offensive 153 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: tackle free agent class shallow. I'm talking like kiddie pool shallow, 154 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: like maybe your ankle deep if you want to like 155 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: put your feet in. So I gotta imagine there's gonna 156 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: be some pretty high demand for anybody that could be 157 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: a starting quality offensive tackle that's a free agent this offseason. 158 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, the most intriguing one is not quite free, but 159 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 3: maybe free. He's really long in the tooth. But Trent 160 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: Williams a schedule to make like thirty three million for 161 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 3: the forty nine ers. He's gonna he said late last year, 162 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: he is gonna play at least this year if they 163 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 3: can't work out a deal to reduce his cap number. 164 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 3: If he's on the open market, although he's older, he 165 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: jumps to the top of the list because I'd rather 166 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 3: have two years of Trent Williams than four years. If 167 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 3: anybody else seems available, I'd be curious to see where 168 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 3: that one goes. Matt Naggy is now with you, guys. 169 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 3: If I'm John Harbaugh, after seeing Jwan Taylor being a 170 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 3: penalty waiting to happen, if he brings him up to me, 171 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 3: I tell him to turn around, walk out of my office, 172 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 3: and Taylor was making. I went to the Chiefs on 173 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 3: a twenty million dollars per year deal back when right 174 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 3: tackles making twenty million per year was abnormal. He played 175 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 3: better in twenty twenty five, but man the penalties who 176 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 3: and that's a problem he had if you're right tackle, 177 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: although he did a very good job in not allowing pressure. 178 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: So if I'm looking at if I'm a right tackle 179 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: in the open market, I think I'm one of the 180 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: ones in high demand. The tightest Howard deal, which just 181 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 3: got done for his trade, which takes effect on the 182 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 3: first day of the league year next Wednesday, from he 183 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 3: Houston to Cleveland at twenty one million per year, becomes 184 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 3: an important data point for me. Whether you can get 185 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 3: up to that level can be a different story. On 186 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 3: the other side of the tackle, at the left tackle, 187 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 3: you got Rashid Walker, the best young tackle out there. 188 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 3: Dan Moore, who's not very good, got twenty a half 189 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 3: million per year from the Titans last year, So I'm 190 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 3: looking for more than that if I'm Walker. If you 191 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 3: want to know how to manage two minutes of crunch 192 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 3: time football, I'm your man. 193 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 2: But if you're wondering about a long term financial plan. 194 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 3: You should talk to citizens. 195 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: Hey, I can also talk long care. 196 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 3: I'd like to learn about a million routine. 197 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: Yes, I knew I could help make sense of your 198 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: money with citizens. 199 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: So what do you think the giants are going to 200 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: have to budget here for a luminari? I know last 201 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: year Jalen Moore, for example, went from a backup and 202 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: he got signed. 203 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a swim tackle. 204 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 2: Dollar deal, which. 205 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: Is fifteen million per year for swing tackle. 206 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: I got to imagine when like you're made a little bit. 207 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 3: More than that. If I'm an illumin or, I'm thinking, hey, 208 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 3: this guy was a swing tackle. He's at fifteen million 209 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 3: per year. I'm trying to get over twenty. If I can't, 210 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 3: I got at least be where more is. 211 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of money in free agency too, right, Joe. 212 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: I think that's an important thing to note here. There 213 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: are number of teams that have to spend a certain 214 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: amount of dollars to reach the free agency, to reach 215 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: their cap floor in terms of required spending. So and 216 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: and like there always is, like there's just not a 217 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: lot of offensive tackles out there. So look, from from 218 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: my perspective, I think, given if they lose Illumini. I 219 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: don't know what the giants answer would be. Maybe they 220 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: do like Marcus bowenough to just slide him in there 221 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: and start them. I think that would be the be 222 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: the logical conclusion you would reach if they don't resign him. 223 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 3: But that's where my nightmare starts to come into play. 224 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: Well we lose him, Matt Naggy's like, I know, Taylor, 225 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 3: I personally I wouldn't. 226 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: But that's my point, right, there's just not a lot 227 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: of options if Illuminar walks out the door, right. 228 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: Braden Smith, who's a little older, might be it as 229 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 3: smaller price point could be an option. But yeah, you 230 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 3: really you want to get your guy because the tackle 231 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: market is not someplace you really want to be in 232 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 3: the second waive of free agency, and these guys could 233 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 3: benefit from that reason. One thing you always realize about 234 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 3: free agency that the two days of the negotiation period 235 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 3: and the first day or two of free agency actual 236 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 3: free agency is really a seller's market. Then it flips 237 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 3: to a buyer's market. If you can afford to sit 238 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 3: out the first waive of free agency, then you can 239 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 3: get a guy who overpriced himself and get him for 240 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 3: more your value than his value and something you did 241 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 3: mention briefly the spending requirements that from twenty twenty four 242 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 3: to twenty twenty six, over the three year period, each 243 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 3: team has to spend ninety percent of the salary cap 244 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 3: and cash. So there's some teams like Seattle is one 245 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 3: that's gonna have to spend money to reach the minimum threshold. 246 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 3: We've never had a team fall under the threshold. But 247 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 3: you could literally spend no money in twenty twenty four, 248 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 3: no money in twenty twenty five, and then spend like 249 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 3: a drunken sailor in twenty twenty six. In as long 250 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: as over the three year period you hit that mark, 251 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 3: you're okay. The Raiders are gonna be a team that's 252 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: gonna have to spend money as well, and they've got 253 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 3: a ton. 254 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: Of capper and they, by the way, have a huge 255 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: indeded offensive line too. 256 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 3: By the way, yeah, any like an entire offensive long 257 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 3: besides Colton Miller it left tackle? 258 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: What do you think of too two offensive all. 259 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna throw at you because I think they 260 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: interest me a little bit because I always want to 261 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: try to find these guys that are coming off. 262 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: Their rookie deals, Right, what do you think the interest 263 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 2: will be. 264 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: In two guys Dylan Palm from the Raiders, who's started 265 00:13:58,480 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: a bunch of games of them coming off a rookie deal, 266 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: and then Jamari Salier out of the Chargers, who I 267 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: think are two of the rare guys that are in 268 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: this group at least that are coming off a rookie 269 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 1: deal and have started and at least been okay as 270 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: starters in the NFL. 271 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: Sawyer is interesting because there's one year I think he 272 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: filled in for Slater and left and I think he 273 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 3: played better in left tackle that year than any other year. 274 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 3: But he can play multiple line positions. He's gonna be 275 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 3: more of a utility lineman. Partum. They're probably gonna be 276 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 3: priced in the same way. You're probably not gonna have 277 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 3: to pay any more than six seven million per year 278 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 3: at most for them. 279 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that could be a fallback position. 280 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: And if you get to the point where you need 281 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: to do something anybody else on the offensive line, god 282 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: or guard or tackle Joel that you think maybe is 283 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: being undervalued, I think you can kind of bring in 284 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: and they can be a solid starter for you if 285 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: you need one. 286 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 3: Now here's one that intrigues me. Elijah vera Tucker with 287 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 3: the Jets for one reason. It's not ability with him, 288 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 3: it's availability. He missed the entire twenty twenty five season 289 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 3: and for torn left triceps. In five seasons, he's played 290 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: forty three of a possible eighty five regular season games. 291 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: He might be someone that if the adorability concerns are problematic. 292 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: He's on a one year, proven deal for like eight 293 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 3: to ten million. He's gonna be looking for the multi 294 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 3: year deal. But I would be a little leary of 295 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 3: that because he didn't stay healthy. 296 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: No, I'm with you, but I think in terms of 297 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: quality of play, he's probably the best guy out there. 298 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 3: But yeah, he could stay healthy, he would be probably 299 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 3: a twenty million dollar per year guy. Yeah. 300 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: No, I'm with you one hundred percent. All right, let's 301 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: jump to wide receiver here. We'll see what happens with 302 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: Alec Pierce. I think there's a chance that he might 303 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: figure something long term out with the Colts before he 304 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: hits for agency at this point, though maybe not could 305 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: that go into like franchise tagged even maybe he starts 306 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: with the three range. When it comes to Alec Pierce. 307 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: Here, he would need multiple suitors to get a deal 308 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 3: that starts of for three I would ask for I'd 309 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 3: be targeting thirty million per year, knowing that it may 310 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 3: end up at twenty five, depends on the number of 311 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 3: suitters the Colts won him back. He's unique from the 312 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 3: standpoint that if you look at a stat line, if 313 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 3: you compared it to stat lines in the seventies, it's 314 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 3: one of those because he's averaging twenty one twenty two 315 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 3: yards receptions like La Swan yeah, or little like Cliff 316 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: Branch type stats that he's leading the league in yards 317 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 3: per catch in each of the past two years. So 318 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 3: he's an ultimate deep threat. So he's gonna be north 319 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 3: to probably between twenty five and thirty million per year, 320 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 3: but I'd be asking for thirty if I representative. 321 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: And then you kind of get into the next tier. 322 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: And there's a bunch of guys I think in this 323 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: wide receiver tier when you look at it, the Romeo 324 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: Dobbs obviously, the Giants with Wando, Robinson, j Jennings, Deebo, Samuel, 325 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: they're kind of Rashi Shaheed maybe is gonna be in 326 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: this category, Joe, where do you think those guys are 327 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,479 Speaker 1: going to land? And what that market's going to be 328 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: like in a year with a draft is pretty thick 329 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: and wide receivers, So how do you think that's gonna 330 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: look once you get past Piers and you get into 331 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: that next tier of whiteouts. 332 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 3: Now your guy is interesting because he had a career 333 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 3: year like ninety two catches eleven hundred receiving yards. If 334 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 3: I'm him. There was a deal done in December which 335 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 3: caught my attention, Jacoby Myers signing with the Jaguars sixty 336 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 3: million over three years. I'd be trying to get something 337 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 3: along that line. Shaheb says he wants to stay in Seattle. 338 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 3: I don't know how much they can pay him because 339 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 3: their plan is to take care of their two first 340 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three first round picks, Jackson Smith and Jigba 341 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 3: the reigning offensive Player of the Year, who says he 342 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 3: wants to be the highest paid receiver in the NFL 343 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: and he's got a case for that, and Devin Witherspoon 344 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 3: at corner. You're already paying Cooper Cup fifteen million per year, 345 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 3: so unless Rashid wants take a little discount, he's probably 346 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 3: elsewhere now. Familarity brings comfort. He came from New Orleans 347 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: in a trade mid season. His offensive coordinator last year 348 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four was Clint Kubat. His offensive coordinator 349 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 3: once he got traded was Clint Kubiak. The Raiders head 350 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 3: coach is Clint Kubiak. So the Raiders have enough cap 351 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 3: space to make him change his mind about Oh, I 352 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 3: want to stay in Seattle because money typically talks for 353 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 3: a player that hasn't made significant NFL money. He was undrafted, 354 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 3: so he fits that bill. And if the Raiders are 355 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 3: coming after him, they may overpay him. 356 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: And they need weapons a wide receiver too. They have 357 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: brought hours, but after that they have known a wide 358 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: receiver right. 359 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 3: And I'm not touching Deva. I know he was relatively 360 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 3: healthy last year with the Commanders, but he had that 361 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 3: one phenomenal year that got him paid. I think it 362 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: was in twenty twenty one. He hasn't come close to that, 363 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 3: and he's like thirty one years old. I'm staying away 364 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 3: from him. 365 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: One guy that Dobson Jennings at the other two, Yeah. 366 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 3: They're probably about the same place. The fifteen seventeen million 367 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 3: dollars per year. Mark Jennings is interesting because he made 368 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 3: a tactical mistake to me. He was a restricted free 369 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 3: agent in twenty twenty four. Instead of playing on the 370 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 3: second round tender, he did an extension where he gave 371 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 3: up a twenty twenty five contract year, and it would 372 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 3: have worked out well for him if he had just 373 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 3: played on his RFA tender. Because Brandon Ayu gets hurt, 374 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 3: Debo wasn't healthy, they drafted Ricky Piersall in the first round. 375 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 3: He had the unfortunate gunshot wound in preseason which really 376 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 3: derailed his rookie year. And Jennings almost had a thousand yards, 377 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 3: so he would have gotten paid last year. He's still 378 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 3: gonna be all right, but his payday got delayed. There's 379 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: one more guy. I want to bring up, a receiver, 380 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 3: an older guy. Interesting. We'll see if he want. He'll 381 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 3: leave Mike Evans. Up until this year, he had he 382 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 3: had thousand yards every year. It was the record for 383 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 3: the most consecutive thousand yard seasons to start a career. Now. 384 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 3: Two years ago, he took a discount stay in Tampa 385 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 3: because the deal was reported at fifty two million over 386 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 3: two years. That was a max value. The base value 387 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 3: was forty one million, so Tampa re signed Chris Godwin, 388 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 3: who was coming off an injury. Last year, they drafted 389 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 3: a receiver in the first round. They had him in 390 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 3: the second round the year before. They say that on 391 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 3: him back, he's really more of a luxury than necessity 392 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 3: in Tampa. But I'm curious to see what he does 393 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 3: with Robinson. I'd look for the Titans to be big 394 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 3: players for him as long as Brian Daball likes him, 395 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 3: because that's where he's offensive coordinator now, and they got 396 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 3: a ton of cap room in need receivers. 397 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I think that's where it's gonna land. 398 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: A couple of guys further than the list that I 399 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: think maybe could be good values at the price. 400 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 2: I think this was three years ago, now, maybe it 401 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 2: was two years ago. 402 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk got that contract that everyone kind of raised 403 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: their eyebrows out and they're like, wow, Christian Kirk that 404 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: much money. Could this be a deal coming off of 405 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: down year now that you might be able to get 406 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: him on a little bit more of a bargain. 407 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't think you have to go to 408 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 3: ten for him? 409 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 2: All right, I'm with you on that. 410 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: And how about jaywhen Naylor at a at a Minnesota 411 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,239 Speaker 1: a guy that maybe has talented but hasn't gotten much 412 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: of an opportunity there because of Justin Jefferson and Jordan 413 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: Addison being there. 414 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're projecting that he's going to You're you're you're 415 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 3: paying him for what you expect him to do, not 416 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 3: what he's done. Presumably he would be graduating to a 417 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 3: second receiver role as opposed to being the third receiver. 418 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 3: I'm trying to do a two year deal with him, 419 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 3: get into double digits if I can, and then hope 420 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 3: that he blossoms and then you really hit the market 421 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 3: after that. But I'm gonna plug somebody for his development 422 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 3: that his receivers coach Keenan McCardell in Minnesota's fine of mine. 423 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to I'm sorry, glad. 424 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 3: Y'all now just saying his development, I'm attributing to my 425 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 3: old client, Keenan McCardell, who was a great receiver in 426 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 3: his own right, had over eight hundred catches eleven thousand 427 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 3: receiving yards in his career, primarily more so with the 428 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 3: Jaguars than anyone else. 429 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 2: No, absolutely, I'm just plugging Keenan. 430 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: Really really good receivers coach Can mccarl no question about it. 431 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, I thought I jumped on you at 432 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 2: the end of your statement. 433 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: All right, let's jump over to corner another place that 434 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: positioned in my opinion at least and correct me if 435 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: you think I'm off based on this. Maybe not quite 436 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: as shallow as offensive tackle, but it is not overflowing 437 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: with really good cornerbacks in this free agency class. 438 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 2: You got a couple at the top that are okay. 439 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: And the Giants that have a corner that played really 440 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: well last year in Cordell Flat. He's young, which teams love, 441 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: especially at cornerback. You don't want to sign thirty year 442 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: old corners. Right, What do you think the Giants' situation 443 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: is gonna be? What they're gonna look at? Would Flat? 444 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: How pricey he might get, and if they lose him, 445 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: what some of the options might be. 446 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 3: Here's one thing I don't know about Harbaugh and Flat. 447 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 3: He's slight. It's like one hundred seventy five and eighty pounds. 448 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 3: Harbaugh typically is like bigger corners from a weight standpoint. 449 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 3: He may not be for Harba, but let's say, for 450 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 3: sake of argument, let's say he is. Then you're probably 451 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 3: going You're going north to Christian Fulton, who didn't get 452 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 3: on the field much for Kansas City last year, and 453 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 3: that was ten million per year, two year deal, fifteen 454 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 3: million guarantee. You might have to go to fifteen. The 455 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 3: guy that intrigues me more than anybody else is Rek Woland, 456 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 3: Greek wooland physically has everything you want, six' four like 457 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 3: two hundred, pounds freakiously, fast got off to a terrible 458 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 3: start at the beginning of the, year bounce, back but 459 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 3: still makes some boneheaded. Mistakes made a great play which 460 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,719 Speaker 3: he thought got The rams off the, FIELD i mean 461 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 3: The seahawks off the, field then gets a towning penalty 462 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 3: very next play gives up the touchdown To pookinakua that 463 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 3: very well could have cost The seahawks THE Nfc championship. 464 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 3: Game someone and he was a pro bowler's first. Year 465 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 3: someone's gonna pay him because of that size and. Speed 466 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 3: six or four corners don't grow on, trees. 467 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: But that runs. 468 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: Him anyone else in this class that that that you 469 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: think could be, had that that could be good bang 470 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: for the. 471 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 3: Buck i'm curious see what happens With Nashan wright because 472 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 3: that's a guy that had done nothing until this year 473 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 3: and then led all cornerbacks and, takeaways in fumbles and. 474 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 3: Interceptions he's also a taller corner but he also was 475 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 3: a little boom or. Bust but that type of, Size 476 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 3: i'd be a Little i'd be a little scared scared 477 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 3: of him because this year is kind of an. Outlier 478 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 3: but he might he he may try to price himself 479 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: out of the. Market he wants to stay In, chicago 480 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 3: but they're already Paying Jalen johnson and they paid OTHER 481 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 3: i Think gordon as, Well so how much money they, 482 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 3: have he might be looking for north of fifteen million per. 483 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 3: YEAR i wouldn't go. There but one the guy that 484 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 3: intrigues me Is Jamiel. Dean dean took a massive pay 485 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 3: cut and then had a great. Year he's a little. 486 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 3: Older he's twenty, nine so he's at an age where you're, Like, 487 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 3: eh when is The when's he gonna hit the? Wall 488 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 3: but he's probably gonna be looking in that market of 489 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 3: where guys ended up last, year Like Tarvarius, Ward Byron 490 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 3: murphy the second Or, junior don't forget which, one there's. 491 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 3: One this Is. Junior want's the second in that eighteen 492 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 3: million dollar range Like Carlton davis was last. Year that's 493 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 3: probably where he's gonna be. Looking hoddle, up get in. 494 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 2: Here if you're lined up, here you gotta go over 495 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 2: the middle with at the score. Great how do we 496 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: make that? 497 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 3: HAPPEN i don't, know But citizens? Does it makes sense 498 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 3: of your money With Citizens Official bank Of Eli. 499 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: Manning one Name i've heard people big fans of Is Alante. 500 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: Taylor what are your thoughts on? 501 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 3: Him If i'm, Him i'm looking at what my Former 502 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 3: saints teammate, got which you guys Have Paulson, adebo And 503 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 3: i'm targeting a deal like, that which is eighteen million for. 504 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 3: THREE i don't think he gets, there but that's What 505 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 3: i'd be. 506 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: Targeting and you think he kind of put the lands 507 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: more in that like thirteen to fifteen million dollar range of. 508 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 3: Things, yeah he might be in more than fifteen million 509 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 3: dollars per year. 510 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 2: Range, OKAY i think that makes. Sense. 511 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: Johnson the podcast brought to you By, citizens The Official 512 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: bank of The giants from game day, celebrations your everyday 513 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,719 Speaker 1: financial and these Big blue fans get the most out 514 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: of everyone With. Citizens learn more At Citizens bank Dot 515 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: com Slash giants Linebacker Joel it's somebody that a position 516 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: that The giants now have pretty much no one. 517 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: Under contract that that has started a. Lot, again you 518 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 2: have Fourth Darius. Mussau so it's actually a position WHERE 519 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 2: i think there is some depth in free. 520 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,479 Speaker 1: Agency you actually have some players THAT i think are 521 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: pretty good at the top, here and it's a it's 522 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: a position that often teams do is shoe paying and 523 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: they let guys sit free. Agency SO i think there 524 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: could be some opportunities, here And John harbaugh has shown 525 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: the penchant for valuing that position and either training for 526 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: a player, there drafting a player, high or spending on 527 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: a player. 528 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 3: There, YEAH i think the guy who's gonna benefit the 529 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 3: most of everything Is Devin. Lloyd his fifty year option 530 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 3: wasn't picked up because it was basically fifteen, million and 531 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,239 Speaker 3: he goes out and becomes the second Team All. Pro 532 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 3: he's probably gonna be looking at That zach Vond ranger. 533 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 3: Above there's one guy who's on the trading, Block Tremaine 534 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 3: edmonds for The. Bears he signed a deal in free 535 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 3: agency that had to be twenty twenty. Two then it 536 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,479 Speaker 3: was seventy two minute over four, years which was at 537 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 3: the time the biggest average still is the biggest average 538 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 3: anyone's gotten switching teams in free agency as a. Linebacker 539 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 3: last year you saw a couple of guys resigned with 540 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 3: their own teams And Jamie Sherwood Nick bolton at fifteen 541 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 3: million per. Year i'm not sure anybody else gets to 542 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 3: fifteen million per. Year but you got guys Like Coy 543 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 3: walker from The packers fifty h wasn't picked up The 544 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 3: browns would like to Keep Devin. Lloyd you've got a 545 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 3: couple of older, linebackers Which den De, Yeah, Yeah Devin, Bush, 546 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 3: Yeah Devin. Bush you got a couple older linebackers THAT 547 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 3: i don't think would have any interest in coming to 548 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 3: The giants if they were. Interested with three of them in, 549 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 3: particular they're all thirty five or. Above Bobby wagner To 550 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 3: Mario davis And Levonte. David they all made around nine 551 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 3: million on a, short short term deals last. 552 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 2: Year how About, Angeloni, yeah he's. 553 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 3: Interesting he has had some injury concerns in the. Past 554 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 3: they Paid Derek barnes his. Money i'm presuming In detroit 555 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 3: Because Jack campbell is ls a four contract, extension Which 556 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 3: Will that's a whole one other story we have to get, 557 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 3: into but he's probably looking north a ten. Million he's 558 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 3: someone that would be. Intriguing Kayen ellis is another guy 559 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 3: because he's got some ability to rush the passer but 560 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: plays off ball. Linebacker he might be ten to twelve. 561 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 3: Million so you do have some options, there Leoll. Chanall 562 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 3: that may be one Because Matt naggy knows. Him he's 563 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 3: the third linebacker In Kansas. City he might be he 564 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 3: should be under, ten but he's been very he's been 565 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 3: productive for the time he's been on the. 566 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 2: Field, oh if he's if he's under, TEN i think 567 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: that's something you can think. About. 568 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,479 Speaker 1: AGAIN i don't think he's a green doc, guy, Right 569 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: he's more of kind of a kind of a you, 570 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: know strong side week side. 571 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 2: Guy. Correct. 572 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 3: Right and the WAY i REASON i say under ten 573 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 3: Is Ernest jones last year came in at nine point 574 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 3: five million per. Year Ernest jones Say tiamoll pro this? 575 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 2: Year, NO i THINK i think that makes. SENSE a. 576 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: Right two more POSITIONS i want to hit with You joel, 577 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: Here there's been a lot of noise that The giants 578 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: could be in On china upgrade the running back. Position 579 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: we'll see whether that's noise or if that's. REAL i 580 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: Know Kenneth walker is at the top of this. Group 581 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 1: what do you think of the depth of the anybody 582 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: from this running back group that you think either could 583 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: be really good value at the top or maybe in 584 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: the middle where you're, like all, right this is a 585 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: good value for a running. 586 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 2: Back you bring him and he can be a good 587 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 2: solid starter for you and help the. 588 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 3: Team, Well Kenneth, walker the third must be doing cartwheels 589 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 3: because The jets put a franchise tag On Breeze hall 590 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 3: and he didn't get, one so he should be the 591 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 3: clear cut number one back out. There he's probably gonna 592 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 3: be looking to be twelve, thirteen fourteen million per. Year 593 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 3: whether he gets, IT i don't. Know travis at the 594 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 3: end is. Up he didn't get a fifth year option In. 595 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 3: Jacksonville Running backs typically haven't fared all that well in free, 596 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 3: agency so there's gonna be someone who doesn't get. Paid 597 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 3: ricodou last year Had ony twenty twenty four should say 598 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 3: head over a thousand yards In, dallas can only get 599 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 3: three million to go To. Carolina he doesn't want to 600 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 3: be a time, sheriff to you, behoever so he could 601 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 3: be out. THERE a guy THAT i would imagine once 602 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 3: out Of atlanta it was a thousand yard back as 603 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 3: a rookie Is Tyler, algier and he kind of fits 604 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 3: What harbaugh, wants that, big bruising thumper. Back he probably 605 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 3: ain't gonna be that. Expensive maybe five six seven million 606 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 3: per year. Max that's Someone i'd be looking at it 607 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 3: for a dual. Threat Guy Kennef gainwell played really well 608 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 3: In pittsburgh last. Year he's gonna be pretty affordable because 609 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 3: he hasn't made any REAL nfl. Money you might be 610 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 3: able to get him for five. 611 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,959 Speaker 2: Million, YEAH i think that's A i think that's a good. 612 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: Breakdown there are reports that The giants could consider moving 613 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: in a Trade Cavon thibodau The, giants Obviously i'm not 614 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: comment under. That i'm not lending the validity to those, 615 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: reports but if they, Do edge could be a spot 616 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: that they look. At joel AND i think it's actually 617 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: a fairly deep. Class if if you want to try 618 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: to find, somebody you, know even like halfway down your 619 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: list in the middle that he can give you some 620 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: part time. 621 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 3: Snaps, yeah, well Trading thiboeau makes sense only if you 622 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 3: can get good value from a draft picks. 623 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 2: STANDPOINT i, agree. 624 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 3: And you don't have to trade him. Now you have 625 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 3: to trade him before the season. Starts you have until 626 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 3: Early november to trade, deadline but you probably have to 627 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 3: get something for him sooner rather than. Later otherwise you're 628 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 3: looking at a compensatory picket best in twenty twenty, eight 629 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 3: and someone might be, willing maybe not today, tomorrow but sometime. 630 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 3: BEFORE a contending team might be looking to add him 631 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 3: as a. Piece but since you Have Abduall carter And Brian, 632 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 3: burns then he's more of a luxury than a. 633 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 2: Necessity so what do you think of the friging classt 634 00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 2: on the? 635 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 3: Edge, yeah, well it's not the guys that intrigued me the. 636 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 3: Most you won't be going after like your jalen fil 637 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 3: The loops of The. World i'm curious to see where 638 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 3: that one ends. Up but here's another guy that intrigues. 639 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 3: ME i hadn't done much the past two, years or 640 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 3: maybe you're looking for a third edge Rusher, reddick because 641 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 3: at one time he was extremely, productive had that mind 642 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 3: boggling a holdout which kind of derailed his career and 643 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 3: then couldn't get it back on track In. Tampa BUT 644 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 3: i can't imagine at this point in time he's gonna be. 645 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 3: Expensive he's a guy from The East, coast so he 646 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 3: might be something you look at as a third. Guy 647 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 3: once you Have thimodau out the, way what. 648 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 2: Do you think the older? Guys and this might not 649 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 2: be for The. 650 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 1: Giants i'm just interested from AN nfl, perspective a guy 651 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: Like Trey hendrickson who went through that, whole you, know 652 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: drama filled process with The bengals last. Year thre'ugh really 653 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: no fault of his own coming off an injury play, 654 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: year but two years ago he was like runner Up 655 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: Defensive player of The. Year and Then mac And bosa 656 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: two other guys that are still, productive but obviously they're 657 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: well over. 658 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 3: Thirty bosa played for twelve on a one this. Year 659 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 3: he's not probably not gonna do much more than. That 660 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 3: mac is older Than. Bosa he's like with thirty four 661 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 3: to thirty. 662 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 2: FIVE i, think, yeah. 663 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 3: Thirty five, NOW i think he played for eighteen on a. 664 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 3: One he wants to keep. Playing he might want to, go, 665 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 3: well The chargers are playoff, team but if he may 666 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 3: stay put there for something close to. That Von miller 667 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 3: is still trying to. PLAY i think he made like 668 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 3: seven on a one for The. 669 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 4: Commanders and who's the other guy you, Missed hendrick Said, Hendrickson, Yeah, Hendrickson, 670 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 4: yeah he's The he's the most interesting one because he 671 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 4: had like thirty five sacks over two years and then 672 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 4: finally gets. 673 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 3: Hurt they paid him twenty nine on a modified. One 674 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 3: he's probably gonna want to get in the thirties on 675 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 3: a short term. DEAL i might give him the benefit 676 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 3: of the doubt that he would bounce back from the, 677 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,919 Speaker 3: injury But i'm not signing for more than two three 678 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 3: years And i'm not. 679 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 2: Guarantee do you think he's twenty? 680 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 3: Three, huh that's what he's gonna be looking. For it 681 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 3: might be in the, twos BUT i. DON'T i try 682 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,919 Speaker 3: to do a deal where there's no guaranteed, money fully 683 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 3: guaranteed money in twenty twenty, seven or if there is 684 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 3: guaranteed money in twenty twenty, seven it's injury. Only it's 685 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 3: signing then becomes fully guaranteed on the third or fifth 686 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 3: day of the league, year all. 687 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,760 Speaker 1: Right and then if The giants want a third, safety 688 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: maybe they want to, do go like The Cooper degene 689 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: ride right and have with their slot, player be like 690 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: a big, safety Big nickel type of. Guy anybody in 691 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: the middle of that safety class this. YEAR i think 692 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: there are a lot of safeties that are free, agents you, 693 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: know The crosses out. There The giants have their own 694 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: guy In Dave Belton, reblankenship who who obviously from The. 695 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 2: Eagles e're very familiar With Kyle. 696 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: Duggar what do you think of like the middle of 697 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: this this safety class that that fan should keep an eyeing. 698 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 2: Of The giant want to add somebody there the familiarity brings. 699 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 3: Comfort. Uh gilman from The ravens might be someone to look. 700 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 2: At, yeah Because rbon knows. 701 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 3: Him, yeah he might went to that first. 702 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 2: Target, NO i think that makes. 703 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: Sense all, right last two before we say Goodbye. Corey anybody, Else, 704 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: joel anythingbody else that The giant should uh keep an 705 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: eye on that maybe could be a cap casualty between 706 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: now in the start of the league year around the 707 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: league that could be of intrigue and maybe potential trade 708 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: candidates that teams have maybe in some cap trouble and 709 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: need to get some money off their. 710 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 3: Books, well you guys got to get a kicker since 711 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 3: you know is probably going to be a cap. Casualty 712 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,280 Speaker 3: So i'm not sure where you go for a, Kicker 713 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 3: AND i can't imagine you go with someone That harbond, 714 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 3: knows just because there's too much, baggage although he used 715 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 3: to be extremely, accurate And Justin tucker didn't didn't give 716 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 3: fund a job last, year So i'm curious to see 717 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 3: what happens uh with. Him the quarterback situation is going 718 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 3: to be interesting because you have multiple guys who were 719 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 3: probably gonna get. Released cousins we know is. Out Kyler 720 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 3: murray is getting. Cut he's got thirty nine million fully. 721 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 3: Guaranteed you've Got tua who has fifty four million guaranteed 722 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 3: he's probably gonna get, cut And Geno smith has eighteen 723 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 3: and a half fully. Guaranteed somebody's gonna end up In 724 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 3: minnesota for next to. Nothing and all these guys Except, 725 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 3: tua Because Brian flores is THE dc In, minnesota should 726 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 3: be trying to make a b line to THINKING i 727 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 3: should have no problem beating OUT jj. 728 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 2: McCarthy, joel you're, awesome. Man tell the folks where they 729 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:53,439 Speaker 2: can find all your great. 730 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,399 Speaker 3: Work, okay you can find me On twitter at That's 731 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 3: Corey joel c ROY. J and ALSO i write a 732 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 3: regular column for cbssports dot com Called Agent steak ON nfl, 733 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 3: salary cap and contract. Matters this WEEK i have a 734 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 3: piece off out earlier today which is on target prices 735 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 3: for ten intriguing offensive, players some of these guys who 736 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 3: went over in our, session and Then friday is going 737 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 3: to be on ten defensive players. 738 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 2: Bands go check it. Out it's always. Mustery you learn a. 739 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: Lot and by the, way your your Your twitter, NAME 740 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,919 Speaker 1: i think is you put that together just to really 741 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: confused people because you have two first names as it, 742 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: Is so Your twitter name Is Corey, joel but You're Joel, 743 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,240 Speaker 1: corey SO i think you're trying. 744 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 3: To i'll give you the backdrop behind. THAT i don't 745 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 3: have common, names BUT i signed up For twitter maybe 746 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,959 Speaker 3: thirteen fourteen years, ago SO i tried to get it first, 747 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 3: name last, name AND i. Couldn't THEN i found Out 748 00:39:54,880 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 3: pandemic year there's This british electronic dance MUSIC dj who 749 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 3: has my same name that does really well on apparently 750 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 3: on the electronic dance music. Charts so that's WHY i 751 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 3: couldn't get it the WAY i, wanted SO i just 752 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 3: flipped it the other way around BECAUSE i think this is, 753 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 3: odd how come this is n't? Available but, hey hey, 754 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 3: now AND i found out. 755 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 2: Why you just send him A. Dm you can go 756 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 2: to one of his. Shows you guys gonna have a great. 757 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 2: Time it'll be. Awesome. 758 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 3: Now WHAT i did during the pandemic WAS i would 759 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 3: send the text to some high school friends and tell 760 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 3: THEM i have a new, hobby AND i would send 761 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 3: a YouTube link to one of his. Songs and some 762 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 3: of my friends were, Like, okay you're screwing all of. 763 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 3: Us what's The and then they saw the, name like 764 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 3: that is not. You and a couple of my friends were, 765 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 3: LIKE i didn't know you had a hidden. Talent and 766 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 3: THEN i was, like, no it's not. 767 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 2: Me OH i love it. ALL i always get to 768 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 2: talk to. You, Uh, joel have a great one and 769 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 2: we'll talk to it all. 770 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 3: Right sounds. 771 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 1: Good, Thanks Joe, coorey former AGENT cbs look at his 772 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 1: work as The Johns Little podcast brought to you By 773 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 1: Citizens Official bank of The giants with The Hacken Sack 774 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: Maree Hill Podcast. 775 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 2: Studio keep getting. Better we will see you next, time, 776 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 2: everybody