1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast, The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: Sitting in for Clay and Buck today syndicated radio personality 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Michael Berry. 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: As I started the show, I've made the point that 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: in twenty days the Iowa caucus will be doese, and 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: in short order after that, eight days later will be 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: in New Hampshire. And by that time, by that time 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 2: the race will have probably narrowed a bit. Then Nevada 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: and Virgin Island caucuses two weeks later. By the time 11 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: we get to March fifth, the single most important day 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: in choosing a Republican nominee. Of the eleven hundred twenty 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: five delegates needed, eight hundred and seventy four will be 14 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: up for grabs. That day, two hundred will have already 15 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: been decided. You'll have eight hundred and seventy four then, 16 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: and then by the end of March another seventy ten, 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: and then about another three point fifty four hundred after that. 18 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: All by way of saying, on the morning of March sixth, 19 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 2: I think Trump's the nominee and the race is over, 20 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: at which point the Democrats will have already been maneuvering 21 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: to put their own candidate in place. And we've seen 22 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: a situation like this. It was nineteen sixty eight. Lyndon 23 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: Johnson was the sitting president, just as Democrat Joe Biden is. 24 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: Lyndon Johnson was the far less popular president than the 25 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 2: president for whom he had been the vice president, which 26 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: was John F. Kennedy. Of course, the Kennedy assassination made 27 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: Johnson the president, and many people then and to this 28 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: day still believe that LBJ was in some way involved 29 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: because he was so ambitious and wanted to be president, 30 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: and it happened in Texas, and the whole thing is squirreling, 31 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: no matter how you look at it. But when you 32 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: think about LBJ deciding not to run and the candidates 33 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 2: who came out, and of course Robert F. Kennedy comes out, 34 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: he gets assassinated in California, that would have been a 35 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: brokered convention, meaning they wouldn't have chosen their nominee until 36 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 2: the convention which happened in fifty six when they put 37 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 2: Adelais Stevenson up against Because who was going to get 38 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: slaughtered by Dwight Eisenhower? Why not Adlai Stevenson. It worked 39 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: in fifty two, will do it again in fifty six. 40 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: Eisenhower was just insanely popular. But Biden, the Democrat nominee, 41 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: doesn't get stronger. Time doesn't allow him to become a 42 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: stronger candidate. Time is his enemy. You've probably noticed that 43 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: he's weaker physically today than when he took office, and 44 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: if you've watched any footage of him from ten years ago, 45 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 2: ten twelve years ago, look, Biden's politics have always been questionable, 46 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: but Biden's ability to speak, to stand up straight, to 47 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: simply walk, he clearly looks like an individual who physically 48 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 2: and mentally is in an extreme decline. And I don't 49 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: say that as a criticism. Sure, I'll offer all the 50 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 2: criticisms to make all the fun but realistically, I think 51 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: any doctor who has treated patients of his age and 52 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: beyond would tell you that there's more to this than 53 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: just that he's an old guy. And he's a very 54 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: old guy, way older than Ronald Reagan was when they 55 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: were talking about how old Reagan was. And it's clear 56 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: that he's not able to stream together a sentence. It's 57 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: clear that he's not able to walk up or downstairs 58 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: by himself. It's clear that his mind wanders. These are 59 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: things that we've normalized, right, Oh, uncle Joe, he's the president. 60 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: He just does these. This is not normal. It's not 61 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: normal throughout American history. It's not okay. If this guy 62 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: was your kid's little league baseball coach at twelve years old, 63 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: you'd say, hey, you'd pull the parents again and say, guys, 64 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: we got to do something here. This guy can't be 65 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: the coach. He's trying to make a pitching change two 66 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: pitches in when our pitcher just threw two strikes right 67 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 2: down the middle that they couldn't touch. We got to 68 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: get him out of there. Hey, guys, we got to 69 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: get him out of there. He's telling our runner to steal, 70 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: and we don't have a runner on base. You would 71 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: say there's a real problem here. If he called the 72 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: right fielder in to stand right behind the pitcher for 73 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: no good reason when they had a left handed pull 74 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: hitter up at bat, you'd say, all right, this is 75 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: a real problem. We've got to replace him. So Trump 76 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: is far more likely to be the Republican nominee than 77 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: Biden is the Democrat nomine And we'll explore who the 78 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: Democrat candidates and what that campaign looks like. But it's 79 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: not unprecedented. And you will remember that in sixty eight 80 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: you had Eugene McCarthy, you had Robert F. Kennedy. You 81 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: ended up with Hubert Humphrey, former mayor of Minneapolis, not 82 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: exactly a consensus candidate from a deep blue state that 83 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: the South and I think the Midwest really didn't identify with. 84 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,559 Speaker 2: He was sort of a warmed over Adelaide Stevenson without 85 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: the bow tire or the clever quips. But back to it. 86 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: So I told you that by March sixth, then we 87 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: wake up. We have our Republican nominee. Maybe not technically. 88 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 2: Trump may not have all the votes he needs, but 89 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 2: he's so close to it that the race is about 90 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: over the way it was in Indiana in twenty sixteen. 91 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: But the bigger question is this, the Democrats are going 92 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: to do everything they can to convince voter to vote 93 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: on something other than what is actually on their mind. 94 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,679 Speaker 2: Right now, there are twelve abortion initiatives, twelve different states 95 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: that have abortion initiatives on the ballot come November fifth. 96 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 2: Do you know why? Because you get women who are 97 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: scared to death of crime in their community. You get 98 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: women who in some cases have children and they've got 99 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: grown They've got the fear of grown men coming in 100 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 2: and doing a dance naked or close enough to it 101 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 2: in the classroom. They've got books about butt sex in 102 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: the elementary school. You've got all of these things going on. 103 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: But some women, sadly, many of them suburban women and 104 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: lots of them urban women, will say, oh, well, if 105 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: they're taking away my right to have an abortion, you're 106 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 2: thirty eight with four kids, are you really having abortions? 107 00:06:54,160 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: This issue polls extraordinarily well, particularly with w ight women 108 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 2: swing voters. Now as they go into the ballot box, 109 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: they're scared to death that some guy who's murdered four 110 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: people been arrested four times and released by the Democrats 111 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: and a sorros Back district attorney. They're scared to death 112 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: that that guy's going to murder them on the way in. 113 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: But they must protect the ability of a pregnant woman 114 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: to murder her child. They've been conditioned to it. It's 115 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: about girl power. We've got to hang together, we've got 116 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: to stick together. And they've bought that bull. That is 117 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: very clever on the Democrats part. That is the way 118 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: that Democrats managed to overcome what should be an absolute slaughter. 119 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: So you've got fifty one to forty nine in the 120 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: Senate right now, forty eight Democrats with three independents, making 121 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: fifty one for them to forty nine. You've got Joe 122 00:07:55,040 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: Manchin in West Virginia retiring. That means that West Virginia, 123 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: which is solidly Republican, replaces Joe Manchin with a Republican, 124 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: making it fifty to fifty. Now, interestingly, the presidential race 125 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: takes on an extra bit of importance, as if it 126 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: wasn't important enough already in an era of the imperial 127 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 2: presidency and executive orders. Now whoever is president also drags 128 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: along with him the vice president, who happens to be 129 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: the presiding officer of the Senate. Breaking ties. Kamala Harris 130 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 2: has broke more ties than any vice president in American 131 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 2: history because we've been close enough to fifty to fifty 132 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 2: for all of that time, fifty to fifty or fifty 133 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: one to forty nine. So now winning the White House 134 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: also means that you control the Senate. If the Senate 135 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 2: holds at fifty to fifty. And we'll get later into 136 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: the week we'll get into those Senate races that are 137 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: up for grabs. They're thirty four of them, one of 138 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: them in Nebraska special election that you would expect Republicans 139 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: to win. There is a check ants to have a 140 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 2: fifty one forty nine Republican majority come January of twenty 141 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 2: twenty five. But we've also seen where Republicans can squander 142 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 2: these great opportunities. Republicans have an eight vote majority in 143 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 2: the House of Representatives. You've got thirty five confirmed retirements 144 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 2: in the House right now. Nineteen of the thirty five 145 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: nineteen to sixteen are Democrats rather than Republicans. And you've 146 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: got a lot of races that are now more competitive 147 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: than they would have been. So you would expect that 148 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: if Republicans don't screw it up, and if anyone can, 149 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: they will. If Republicans don't screw it up, Republicans could 150 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 2: end up in January of twenty twenty five with the 151 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 2: White House, the Senate, and the House. Now what would 152 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: they do with it? Well, in January of seventeen they 153 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: had it, and I would argue the most notable accomplishment 154 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: was at the end of that year and a tax 155 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: cut that absolutely put our economy on warp speed, and 156 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: a lot of wealth was created in what was called 157 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 2: by Nancy Pelosi crumbs that were given back to taxpayers. 158 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: But that's not true. People who sought opportunity found it 159 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: and created more wealth. And you would think that everybody 160 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 2: would be for that, but we know that's not true. 161 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: In an era where you believe that government is corrupt 162 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 2: and helps their friends, government attacks and harasses American citizens, 163 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 2: and government is failing to protect Americans. You look to 164 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: the institutions of your society that should be stop gaps, 165 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: and you see a collapse everywhere. You see a collapse 166 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: in America's corporations, the messages they send where they used 167 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: to pay tribute to our military. Now you've got on 168 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: April first, what I would argue, and we'll talk about 169 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: this coming up, was perhaps the biggest collapse of a 170 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: corporate image in my lifetime. Overnight self inflicted and that 171 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: is when Dylan mulvaney uploaded his March Madness video and 172 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 2: bud Light made the mistake of standing behind him. We'll 173 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: talk about that coming up. A Michael Berry in for 174 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 2: Clay Buck all week Clay and Buck subscribe today. Michael 175 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: Berry in for Clay and Buck honored to have you 176 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: here with us. You can reach me directly by email 177 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: at Michael Berryshow dot com. Americans feel that our government 178 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 2: is failing to protect us, but our government is attacking 179 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 2: us and harassing everyday citizens, one of them being a 180 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 2: man who represents for many, the guy who is fighting 181 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 2: back for everyday Americans, Donald Trump. On March thirtieth, the 182 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: New York indictment came out. You have the cases out 183 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: of New York, for instance, that are basically over a 184 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 2: loan guarantee and the value of assets that are pledged 185 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 2: or assessed as collateral to take a loan. This is 186 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: the sort of nonsense that years later would never be 187 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 2: brought to a courtroom for a low information voter that 188 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: doesn't understand. They figure, well, Trump did some really bad 189 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: things where they wouldn't have brought a case. But it's 190 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 2: one of those things that begins as an exciting headline 191 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 2: they got Trump this time, and then it fizzles out. 192 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 2: And then you have the raid on mar A Lago, which, 193 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 2: in addition to being a beautiful resorts where the president lives. 194 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: And I think that's a moment I started noticing with 195 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 2: listeners even the folks who weren't sure on Trump but 196 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: voted for him twice before. Maybe he did some things wrong, 197 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 2: maybe he didn't. That was the moment where it became 198 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: clear that this is an absolute persecution. This is just 199 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 2: too far. If they can do that to him, what 200 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 2: can they do to you? And then enters Jack Smith. 201 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: Jack Smith shouldn't have even been eligible to be a 202 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 2: special counsel, but he was, and he's a hack, and 203 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: he might say, well, why do they keep bringing up 204 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: these people, their spouses here and they do this? Well, 205 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: why do they keep bringing people from their own little cabal? 206 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 2: Because that's who they trust, and their echo chamber is very, 207 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: very small. These are the people willing to plod on 208 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: despite the fact that the law and the facts are 209 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: against them. And in one less than Donald Trump would 210 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 2: have bowed out, because this wasn't really about some crime 211 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: that had supposedly been committed. It was about getting him 212 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: out of the race. And there were two options, both 213 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 2: of which look very good to Jack Smith and the 214 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: people driving him to do this. The first option was 215 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: Trump himself bows out and we say, hey, no harm, 216 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: no foul, you step out of the race. You're not 217 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: a young man and we dropped the case. How many 218 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: times have you seen an elected official who charges are brought, 219 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: they're arrested, charges are brought, and they agree to step 220 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 2: down from their position and not run for reelection in 221 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: exchange for the charges going away. But what about the 222 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 2: average person? They would have been prosecuted in this case. 223 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: I truly believe that they thought Trump would say, you 224 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: know what, I got to be president. I'm a rich man. 225 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: I think I'll retire at this point. But he didn't. 226 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: If he stayed in the fight, I never thought they'd win. 227 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: There was always a chance if he stayed in the fight. 228 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: The second thing was this would turn people against him. 229 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 2: I've never in my life seen someone come under attack 230 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: and become more popular as a result. Gary Hart bowed 231 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: out of the race whenever in eighty eight when it 232 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: was discovered what he was doing out on the monkey business. 233 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: Mark Sandford, a Republican from South Carolina, never recovered from 234 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 2: the Appalachian Trail hike. Him being on was down in 235 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: Nicaragua or South America. I've never seen a candidate come 236 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: under attack. Even Bill Clinton didn't become more popular as 237 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: a result of it. And as it's turned out, I 238 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: think most Americans recognized, you know what, the FBI could 239 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: kick down my door. They kicked down little old ladies 240 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: who were there on Janie. The FBI could kick down 241 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: my door over any number of things. And after they're 242 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: done with Trump, they're coming for me. And that makes 243 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: people love Trump in a way that DeSantis or Haley 244 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 2: can never pry them loose for him. And that's why 245 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 2: Trump's the nominee. Michael Berry and playing Buck and Uh. 246 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: I tell you what, We'll take some of your calls 247 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 2: coming up in the next hour one eight hundred two 248 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: eight two two eight eight two one eight hundred two 249 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: eight two eight eight two. You can always email me 250 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: through the website Michael Berryshow dot com. We'll talk about 251 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 2: that and more coming up. 252 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: Play Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth. 253 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: I'm proud Ustonian. 254 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: Here's Michael Berry from news radio seven forty k t 255 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: r H. 256 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: Well, it's taken me longer to get to the point 257 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: I wanted to get to, but maybe because I repeat 258 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: myself too often. Who knows. I'm trying to explain the 259 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 2: Trump phenomenon in a way that I don't think the 260 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 2: operatives and consultants and really really smart political people explain. 261 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 2: And part of that is wagging my finger at myself 262 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: in the mirror, because I didn't see the Trump phenomenon 263 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: coming in twenty sixteen, because I was blinded by the 264 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: same vast experience in political campaigns, study of political campaigns, 265 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 2: and being in an echo chamber of political consultants and operatives. 266 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: You see, most campaigns were run on a similar playbook 267 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: for a very long time before the Trump candidacy of 268 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. And I think a big reason for the 269 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: Trump candidacy in twenty sixteen was eight years of hell 270 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 2: under Barack Obama. Trump considered running for president in nineteen 271 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 2: eighty eight as a Reform Party candidate. In fact, they 272 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 2: had all the balloons and everything ready, and part of that, 273 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 2: it was argued, was to sell his book. And he 274 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 2: considered again running in two thousand as a Reform Party candidate, 275 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 2: and it ended up being I believe, Pat Buchanan, and 276 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 2: that was a sort of a holdover from the Ross 277 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 2: Perot sort of outsider Jack Kimp Pat Buchanan. It became 278 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: as close to a third party in the modern era 279 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 2: as we've seen, and it was kind of a catch 280 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 2: all for the folks who didn't want to go to war, 281 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 2: and some Ron Paul folks, and some folks who didn't 282 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 2: want corporate welfare, and some folks who wanted a little 283 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 2: more common sense government, and some folks who were tired 284 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 2: of maybe the Bush driven Republican Party and the Romneys 285 00:18:54,920 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 2: and the first families that ran the Republican Party all 286 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: seemed to love war and war manufacturers and really really conservative, 287 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: beat down your door type big government. But in twenty sixteen, 288 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: Donald Trump has grown. He's recognized by that time that 289 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 2: there's an opportunity to win the Republican nomination, which is 290 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: the only way to win. You can't win as a 291 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 2: third party candidate. He recognizes that there is an opportunity 292 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 2: within the party system to cobble together a coalition without 293 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 2: having the party apparatus and the big donors behind you, 294 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 2: and he did it. Cruz was on pace to win 295 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: in the same way that George W. Bush had won 296 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: in two thousand with evangelicals, big donors, and traditional Reagan Conservatives. 297 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 2: What Trump proved was there a a lot of voters 298 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: who like UFC, and there are a lot of voters, 299 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 2: especially thirty to sixty year old males, who watch, who 300 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: listen to sports radio instead of politics quite so much. 301 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 2: And there are a lot of voters who are really 302 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:20,239 Speaker 2: tired of candidates like Mitt Romney and John McCain and 303 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: their ilk And he cobbled together that coalition, and once 304 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 2: they started hitting him, his ability to punch back and 305 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 2: the fact that he frightened the Democrats so much created 306 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 2: this aura around him that I think some of was 307 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 2: probably lost by about twenty one, twenty two, maybe even 308 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: into early twenty three. I heard a lot less talk 309 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: about him, I heard a lot less excitement over him. 310 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 2: And I think that's where the DeSantis campaign peked. Was 311 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 2: a lot of folks who said, Hey, I was with Trump, 312 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: I was in the inner circle. I thought Trump was great. 313 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 2: But Trump can't win. So we're all gonna go over 314 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: to DeSantis. There's gonna be a critical mass. Trump's gonna 315 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 2: look up and say, I had a good run. Trump. 316 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 2: Uh uh, DeSantis is my obvious heir apparent, and I'm 317 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 2: gonna bow out and wish him well and live at Marlago. 318 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: But when they started indicting Trump, and when folks got 319 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 2: behind DeSantis, and I think Trump said, you know, still 320 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: a little gas in this it's Tom Brady coming back 321 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 2: out of retirement, it's Brett Farr coming back out of retirement. 322 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,719 Speaker 2: It's it's you know what, I miss it. I can't 323 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: let them win, and them wasn't DeSantis. I can't let 324 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 2: I can't let the people who said I shouldn't be 325 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 2: president win. And I think that at that moment, Trump's 326 00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: my guy. DeSantis did nothing wrong. I don't think he's 327 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: slammed Trump. I don't think I think DeSantis found himself 328 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: in the situation that he wanted the brass ring and 329 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 2: folks said, how dare you want the brass ring? If 330 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: Trump's still is, if Trump's still in the hunt, and 331 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 2: that turned a lot of people against him, does it 332 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 2: ruin his chances for twenty eight? Absolutely not. I don't 333 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: think he's a great retail politician. And even in a 334 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: television era, I think you have to be good one 335 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 2: on one, and DeSantis is, even according to people around him, 336 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 2: he's not very good at that. Does that matter that much? 337 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: It shouldn't, but it does. And I don't think he 338 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: conveys well across the television. I do think he's a 339 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 2: hell of a good governor. I just don't think he 340 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 2: stands a chance against Trump. Nicki Haley, I'll get to later. 341 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 2: Not a fan, not even a little bit. Don't like 342 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: Nicki Haley. Not even Nicki Haley is Bush and heels 343 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 2: to me. I know I didn't coin that phrase, but 344 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: it's true Nicki Haley. Nicki Haley is riding on the 345 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: crest of people who won us back at war. And 346 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: there are people who thrill to that. I think there 347 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: are people who get really really excited about that. Let's 348 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: go to Dave in New Hampshire because I understand he 349 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: thinks I'm wrong on abortion, and I think that's a 350 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 2: good conversation to have. Dave Europe. 351 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: Thank you. 352 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're dead wrong. Just look and I'm a Trump guy, 353 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 3: was and will be. You just have to look at 354 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty two red wave ha ha ha, worst economy, 355 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 3: open border gas prices high, no food, China wars abortion. 356 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 3: They released the decision early, they got their base all 357 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 3: riled up. Look at twenty twenty three again, go down 358 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 3: this little off year election. Look at it. The Republicans 359 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 3: have not countered the Democrat very very well orchestrated argument 360 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 3: of you want a national ban on abortion, you want 361 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 3: us to keep our incests baby and our rape baby. 362 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 3: You people are evil, including Trump. At the CNN debate, 363 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 3: I mean townhall, I was very disappointed in him. You 364 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 3: have to answer that question. The response even from Trump 365 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 3: was oh, well, you know, no, it should be state rights. 366 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 3: No one has said no, we do not want a 367 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 3: national ban on abortion. My own daughter, a twenty seven 368 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 3: year old conservative voter, is going to be swayed. It 369 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 3: has already said it's the abortion issue. So Republicans, GOP, Trump, 370 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 3: open your eyes and maybe you don't want any I heard. 371 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 3: I was listening to you about what you said about 372 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 3: you know, polls and what women want and this, that 373 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 3: and the other thing. Absolutely not. It is not about 374 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 3: the economy. It is not about the border, it is 375 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 3: not about energy, it is not about Iran. It's about 376 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 3: abortion and the GOP. I'm sorry, is too stupid to 377 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: figure it out. 378 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 2: David. I appreciate you sharing your opinion, but I think 379 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 2: you are infected with the condition that most people suffer, 380 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 2: and that is the belief that everybody feels exactly the 381 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 2: way you do, to the extent that you do, and 382 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: it's simply not true. There is a reason that Democrats 383 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: are putting abortion on the ballot in twelve states already. 384 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: There will be more. Even in states where abortion is 385 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 2: not under attack, They're putting this on the ballot because 386 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: that's a winner for them in that state. You know, 387 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: one of the great frustrations from our side of the Aisle. 388 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: I am extraordinarily pro life, extraordinarily pro life. However I 389 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: have come to learn that there are many, many people. 390 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 2: This is like talking about Israel. It's like talking about blacks, 391 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 2: it's like talking about gays, It's like talking about a 392 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: number of things where certain people, if you don't say 393 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 2: exactly what they want you to say in the terms 394 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: they want to hear, you say them as loud as 395 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 2: they want you to say them, as often as they 396 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: want you to say them, no matter the subject, then 397 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 2: they try to demonize you and put you on the 398 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 2: other side because that's the howling tactic they have learned. 399 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 2: And don't think for a second our side hasn't done it, 400 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 2: because our side does do it. An abortion is one 401 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 2: of those issues. It is not enough that you be 402 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: pro life. It is not enough that you be pro life. 403 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: You have to believe that the only issue that matters, 404 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 2: and the only issue we should fight for is pro life. 405 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you there was a candidate for whom 406 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 2: that was his entire campaign, Mike Pence. How did he do? 407 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: Mike Pence was brought onto the Trump ticket in twenty sixteen. 408 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 2: Trump didn't want him. Trump actually wanted Chris christ There's 409 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: a lot written about this, including you can ask the 410 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 2: Trump family members. Pence was left waiting on a runway 411 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 2: where it was if the flight took off, it was 412 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 2: a private plan to come and see Trump. Then he 413 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 2: was going to be the vice president, and he was 414 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 2: left waiting because Trump was pushing back. Trump trusted Chris 415 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: Christie's political instincts much better than Pence, and Pence kind 416 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: of freaked him out. And wouldn't he creep you out? 417 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 2: He's an odd bird. Mike Pence is a nineteen fifty 418 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: two Republican who is concerned with a couple of social 419 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 2: issues and support our troops in as many wars as 420 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 2: we can be in. There's not a coalition for that anymore. 421 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: The voter has left that behind. I'm pro life. I 422 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 2: think most Republican voters are pro life. But I can 423 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 2: tell you that in many places it may not be 424 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 2: where you are, but in many places where abortion is 425 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 2: on the ballot, and Democrats are the ones that always 426 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 2: put it there. Where abortion is on the ballot in 427 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: a swing state, more Republicans will vote Democrat, then Democrats 428 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 2: will vote Republican on that issue. You can't just say 429 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 2: I'm pro life, therefore it'll win. It's not true. It's 430 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: been put up for a vote. The Democrats sit in 431 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 2: a room, really smart people, and they say, look, inflation 432 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 2: is out of control. We can't raise the interest rates 433 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 2: fast enough, high enough to bring it under control. We 434 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 2: just can't do it. So we're gonna have to live 435 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 2: with the inflation. We've got to get the interest rate 436 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 2: back down because now we're killing the economic activity. Crime 437 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 2: is out of control and it's tied to us. The 438 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: George Floyd case has fallen apart. We've defunded police. Crime 439 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: is up in the cities. The border is wide open, 440 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: and we really don't know what to do. Because some 441 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: people want the wide open border. They're having to argue 442 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 2: that they want it. Some of them recognize it's going 443 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: to cost them some congressional seats. We've got Biden out there, 444 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 2: who is embarrassing. There's no way around that. We've got 445 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: Hunter and all the crimes to which Joe Biden is 446 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: tied because without Joe Biden as his father, Hunter would 447 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 2: still be stuck with those teeth that were rotten and 448 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 2: not have seventy thousand dollars to replace them. Kamala is 449 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 2: a joke. That's why they They don't use her, they 450 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: don't roll her out, they don't say, well, if nothing else, 451 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: she can be the president. Remember she bowed out before 452 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: Iowa because she couldn't. She couldn't get any traction. Nobody 453 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: likes her, including women. So they've got a horrible, horrible 454 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 2: state of affairs. And what do they do. They bring 455 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 2: out abortion. It's the one thing that mobilizes their voters. 456 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: And you know what else, They're gonna bring out racism 457 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: because it's the other thing that mobilizes their voters. We'll 458 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: take some more calls. One eight hundred two two eight 459 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 2: eight two. I'm Michael Barry more of Claying Buck coming up. 460 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: Making Sense in an Insane World. 461 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Michael Berry and for Clay 462 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: and Buck. And one of the reasons I like to 463 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: read emails occasionally during the show is I get feedback 464 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 2: that may rep present an opinion that lots of people have, 465 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: and one of them I keep getting is Michael All. 466 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: That sounds great for Trump to win. I'm a Trump guy, 467 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 2: but they're not gonna let him on the ballot, so 468 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 2: we won't have a choice. Look at Colorado. Okay, that's 469 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 2: what a particular listener in Colorado wrote, But a number 470 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 2: of you've had some version. Let me consolidate that into 471 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:30,719 Speaker 2: one statement. First of all, you were told by the 472 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 2: headline Colorado Supreme Court keeps Trump off ballot. Oh my goodness, 473 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 2: well he they're not letting him run for president March fifth, 474 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: Super Tuesday, which I told you about earlier, which is 475 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 2: the single most important day in the Republican presidential primary. 476 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: That's the most votes up for grabs, eight hundred and 477 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: seventy four. With eleven twenty five, you can win the 478 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: entire nomination. So if you ran the table on Super Tuesday, 479 00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 2: nobody could beat you. Now, the Colorado Supreme Court ruling 480 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 2: said that Trump won't be on the ballot, won't be 481 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: allowed on the ballot on March fifth, Super Tuesday, except 482 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 2: and that was the blaring headline, and then TV shows 483 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 2: said what do you make of this? Will other states 484 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 2: follow Trump won't be on the ballot. Is this is 485 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 2: a good or bad thing? What do we do? But 486 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: what they didn't do was read the opinion and tell 487 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 2: you that he's a little exception down at the bottom, 488 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 2: a little exception that would make that headline a lot 489 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 2: less interesting. There were seven members of the Colorado Supreme Court, 490 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: all of them Democrats. It was only a four to 491 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 2: three decision, so it wasn't like it was an overwhelming 492 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 2: decision anyway. But here's what they did. They said, this 493 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 2: decision will be stayed. That means put it over to 494 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 2: the side, and it won't go into effect if the 495 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 2: Trump campaign appeals to the Supreme Court honor before January fourth, 496 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 2: which is the last day that you can file to 497 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 2: be on the ballot in March fifth. They didn't have 498 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 2: to appeal and win. The Supreme Court didn't have to 499 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 2: hear it. They just have to file an appeal that 500 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 2: triggers a stay of the Supreme Court. In other words, 501 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 2: the Colorado Supreme Court said, this is our decision unless 502 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 2: they appeal to the Supreme Court, in which case we 503 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 2: the Colorado Supreme Court will stay our decision. It won't 504 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 2: matter anyway. But if people knew that, then you wouldn't 505 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 2: be all charged up and angry, right, But that's the reality. 506 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: That's the fact. So Trump will appeal before January fourth. 507 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 2: They may have already for all I know. They'll appeal 508 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 2: before January fourth, and Trump will be on the ballot. 509 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 2: In fact, Minnesota last month, a far more liberal state, 510 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 2: had an opportunity to keep him off and they didn't. 511 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, the Republican Party said, even 512 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 2: if you do that, we'll pull out and have a 513 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 2: caucus instead of a primary. Anyway, because Trump's popular there 514 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: and he's gonna win Colorado, and he will win Colorado, 515 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 2: and he'll win those delegates and that will be on 516 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: his march to get the nomination. And in the meantime, 517 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 2: you will have wasted a lot of time being really 518 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: angry over something that a lot of people knew wasn't 519 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 2: going to come to pass. I'm Michael Barry. Can reach 520 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 2: me at Michael berryshow dot com. I'll be here all week. 521 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 2: More of the Clay and Buck Show coming up, showing 522 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 2: up