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Speaker 2: What's up everybody? Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show
Speaker 2: with b D my Dog. What's up my brother?
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 2: My bro?
Speaker 1: Happy New Years? I see you and Jays. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 2: I ain't brother.
Speaker 1: I had a brother of the big dog means some ress.
Speaker 2: First off, Happy New Year to you as well, brother. Yeah.
Speaker 2: By my kids are still out of school until until Wednesday. Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm tired.
Speaker 1: I can imagine.
Speaker 2: I assumed that they were going back to school on Monday,
Speaker 2: uh till my wife broke the news to me on
Speaker 2: Sunday that they don't go back to school to Wednesday.
Speaker 2: And so, you know, the house has been a bit
Speaker 2: interested that day, a lot of energy, and so I
Speaker 2: finally made it here. If I lack energy, just know
Speaker 2: they took it from me. No, already know. I appreciate
Speaker 2: my brother stuff. I got ten, eight, four and one.
Speaker 1: Damn dude, I got ten and eight, you know, and
Speaker 1: they just went back to school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it.
Speaker 1: I got a birthday party.
Speaker 2: Rod.
Speaker 1: I'm been on so many roller coasters like I'm dizzy,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I woke up one
Speaker 1: morning my eyes was crossed, and I didn't know why bro,
Speaker 1: Because I was on a roller coasters for like every
Speaker 1: other day over the Christmas break, So I feel you.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I'm just trying to get
Speaker 1: some balance. I am cooking.
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Speaker 1: our announcements. In this episode, we'll be answering questions from
Speaker 1: the fans. Of course, we're gonna start with some basketball
Speaker 1: questions because we got to get back into the group.
Speaker 1: Then we're gonna get some of the more bizarre out
Speaker 1: there questions you guys asked us. But you know, for
Speaker 1: the most part the nation, what's happening? The first one
Speaker 1: from made it to the comp to Draymond. Is there
Speaker 1: a real beef between you and Zach Edy or is
Speaker 1: it more Warriors versus Memphis?
Speaker 2: Oh that's an interesting one.
Speaker 1: I mean, before you answer that, I do want to
Speaker 1: give you credit when you said he plays in the
Speaker 1: NBA right like that. People don't understand that that is
Speaker 1: the high. It's compliment to give someone you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But people, that's what it is. It's a compliment.
Speaker 1: It is a high compliment, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And so now you can ask the question about absolutely.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The reporter asked me, he's like he thinks Zaidie's
Speaker 2: a good basketball right in the NBA, A good player,
Speaker 2: Like he's an NBA player, Like right, what do you mean?
Speaker 2: I think so many people, like you said, people just
Speaker 2: get it mixed up, like if you're in the NBA,
Speaker 2: you do something well in basketball. It's like very like
Speaker 2: it's the reality of so asking me like is he
Speaker 2: a good player to kind of.
Speaker 1: Entice something, trying to get.
Speaker 2: Me to go off, like no, he in the NBA,
Speaker 2: Like I ain't one of these clowns that's going to
Speaker 2: be like no he sucked, Like no, bro, he in
Speaker 2: the NBA. Like beleeve it at that. But it is
Speaker 2: there a real beef whatever I mean, I don't he
Speaker 2: hasn't done enough in the NBA for their being real
Speaker 2: beef kind of the way that I interpret it, Uh,
Speaker 2: what it feels like to me is all right, So
Speaker 2: you know how I don't know if it's like if
Speaker 2: someone if someone has been built up to be getting
Speaker 2: pumped up this bully and which they try to build
Speaker 2: me up to be is like the big bad bully.
Speaker 2: Then for him it's like, all right, someone has told
Speaker 2: me so many times that I can't get bully bodies,
Speaker 2: dude to where I'm gonna just come.
Speaker 3: Out like overlying agression, So you don't bully me. And
Speaker 3: the reality is when you do that, being who I
Speaker 3: am and like the amount of experience that I have
Speaker 3: with you know just what I do, when you do that,
Speaker 3: you're kind of overdoing it, and so you kind of
Speaker 3: show that you're a little softer than most just by
Speaker 3: overdoing it. And so the way the way that it
Speaker 3: ends up coming off to me is like they've told
Speaker 3: him so many times like you gotta go ahead, and
Speaker 3: then it's just like and it's like, bro, that didn't
Speaker 3: even make sense, Like Yo, that's like.
Speaker 2: Every time you get near him, he want to like
Speaker 2: deliver a blow. It's like, yeah, I watch you play
Speaker 2: and you don't do that. So what that shows me
Speaker 2: is that someone has told you like yo, you gotta
Speaker 2: be ready for him, and you gotta do this, and
Speaker 2: you gotta do that, and it's like over zealous. So no,
Speaker 2: there's no real beef with Zach Edie and Memphis. You know,
Speaker 2: we played him in a couple of playoff series, two
Speaker 2: or three out of the old Grizzlies with the big
Speaker 2: homie ze Bo and Marcasol you know, and Mike conley Ta.
Speaker 2: You know, we played them on our rise to greatness
Speaker 2: and we were able to knock them out on the
Speaker 2: way to our first anytime you play someone in a
Speaker 2: in a playoff series, it automatically builds like this strife
Speaker 2: between you and so then there was kind of that
Speaker 2: strife amongst us from that, you know, and fast forward
Speaker 2: we end up playing them again on the way to
Speaker 2: another championship, and so we beat them again, and when
Speaker 2: we beat them again, you know, again it creates this
Speaker 2: like strife of like, and then it really creates the strife.
Speaker 2: It's one thing if you beat them in the first
Speaker 2: round and then you losing the second round, it really
Speaker 2: creates the strife. But I mean really like, it creates
Speaker 2: a little strife but not crazy. But when you go
Speaker 2: on and win a championship and you beat them on
Speaker 2: your way, like the next year they come back, it's
Speaker 2: really like and that's kind of that's kind of what
Speaker 2: it is with Memphis, whereas like every time we see them,
Speaker 2: it's a battle, and in large part due to they
Speaker 2: haven't beaten us in the playoff series, and so they're
Speaker 2: like a little they're like the overzealous, you know, team
Speaker 2: that want to act like it's a rivalry, but it really,
Speaker 2: you know, it really can't be a rivalry until both
Speaker 2: teams are winning. Needless to say, there's a competitive respect
Speaker 2: amongst us that they get up for us and we
Speaker 2: get up for them, and.
Speaker 1: That's just for sure. I would say that. I would say,
Speaker 1: like it's almost like this young Memphis squad they came
Speaker 1: in and they're like, y'all gonna pay attention to us,
Speaker 1: you feel what I'm saying. It's like, now y'all gonna know, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all not gonna treat us like that, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? And they and they made themselves, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, to one be able to get in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, to have this record, and so it's kind
Speaker 1: of like a little brother Bravado. Yep, that's like we
Speaker 1: gonna keep knocking, We gonna keep knocking. And so it
Speaker 1: just kind of raised an annie for Big brother to say, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep fighting too. But you know, we know
Speaker 1: a lot of things y'all don't know, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, And so that experience, you know, at some point,
Speaker 1: and then when you look at what Memphis needs to
Speaker 1: accomplish to get over the hump, and you look at
Speaker 1: Zach Edy, right, it's like you need him to be
Speaker 1: the enforcer that you miss and Steven Adams, but he
Speaker 1: has to understand as a young player that you enforce
Speaker 1: your game, you know what I mean, you force your game.
Speaker 1: And so I mean to me, it's of course it
Speaker 1: ain't no beef because he's a young he's a young player,
Speaker 1: and he's just trying to figure out how to step up,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean and meet the challenge. And
Speaker 1: it's just like you're playing against the dude who's done
Speaker 1: this over and over and over again. So you kind
Speaker 1: of like if you don't figure it out, he had
Speaker 1: to mersey anyway, so you know. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: when you look at the game, it's like, what I
Speaker 1: don't like, what I feel is unfair, is you're not
Speaker 1: allowed to do that. Yeah, you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And the history of the league is always like the
Speaker 1: veterans are allowed to like turn young young young men
Speaker 1: to grown men in the league, absolutely, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And so that's what the league is missing
Speaker 1: a lot. And I say, like, you know, I said,
Speaker 1: like you know, just kind of like I know that
Speaker 1: the rest letting people play. But if you're gonna let
Speaker 1: people play, then you got to let you know, like
Speaker 1: basketball is a game of like space, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, and how much space can you take up
Speaker 1: and take advantage? So if somebody get accidentally hit or
Speaker 1: g have to pull or wrestle to the ground. Not
Speaker 1: everything is a flagrant foul. Not everything is you know,
Speaker 1: to go to review and you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like not every time somebody go to the hole and
Speaker 1: fall hard, you know what I'm saying. And so like
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta loosen up that because they're not
Speaker 1: letting you kind of be the vet and and to me,
Speaker 1: it's kind of you know, excuse my friends, is fucking
Speaker 1: the game up because you don't have no rivalry, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, You don't have like that tussle
Speaker 1: was a nothing, you know what I mean? Call the
Speaker 1: first file. Yes, you know what I'm saying call the
Speaker 1: first foule, Like if you're gonna call a flagrant file,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like that don't make no
Speaker 1: that don't make no sense when you wrapping somebody up.
Speaker 1: People have wrapped up plenty of times, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, going to the hole in worse situations. And
Speaker 1: so if if we call in it to protect these
Speaker 1: young dudes, and if you're calling it protection, that ain't
Speaker 1: really enough protection because they should be the ones who
Speaker 1: kind of like get groomed in the being. He should
Speaker 1: be doing that to the next young senate that's coming
Speaker 1: in the league five six years from now.
Speaker 2: That's that's the way it used to be. And you know,
Speaker 2: like when I came in the league, obviously when you
Speaker 2: came in, Like I remember z Bo doing me like this,
Speaker 2: and Mark Jackson said to me like, wow, you're gonna
Speaker 2: let him patch your head like that, and it was
Speaker 2: it was it was such a moment for me of
Speaker 2: like I don't let nobody touch my head, but that's
Speaker 2: my big homie. Like a part of me wanted to
Speaker 2: like like yeah, yeah, but the reality is it's like
Speaker 2: that's the og. Like as much as I want to
Speaker 2: knock up like like, man, touch my head. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get a call from Tom Izo the next day. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get a call from my team Cleans the next day,
Speaker 2: and Jason richardson the next day. And I'm an own
Speaker 2: get those calls and Zbo even allow me to make
Speaker 2: it to that call, because how dare you disrespect me
Speaker 2: to big homie, like just put street. I don't even
Speaker 2: know you're making it to that call because of what
Speaker 2: I've done to you already, Like you ain't making they're
Speaker 2: not even going to make it right, Like that's that's
Speaker 2: That's how I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, certain levels, And.
Speaker 2: So when you look at this league though, So for instance,
Speaker 2: we played the Lakers on was it Christmas Day? Yeah,
Speaker 2: Christmas Christmas, and I got attack because Darnum Connect called
Speaker 2: me a little bit see and I said, shut up,
Speaker 2: I got attack now. Mind you, the referee is standing
Speaker 2: on this side and looking straight at him talk to me,
Speaker 2: and then I got attack, which is insanity. And so
Speaker 2: then fast forward the Grizzlies game to start to play.
Speaker 2: I'm going for the rebound, I get shoved in the
Speaker 2: back by a rookie. Then I fire hard wrap him up,
Speaker 2: like don't don't don't let him. He outweighs me by
Speaker 2: ninety pounds and nine inches m So I'm not filing
Speaker 2: soft and giving up a layup like and then I
Speaker 2: get a flagrum file. So after you not call it
Speaker 2: on the rookie, then I get attacked. It's crazy, Like
Speaker 2: when I came in the league, you're a rookie, you
Speaker 2: just you don't get a call like that's just not
Speaker 2: what's happening. Like and referees would tell you like, man,
Speaker 2: if you don't get out of my face, you know,
Speaker 2: got no resume, Like referees would say that to you,
Speaker 2: like that'll take you off, Like why why do you
Speaker 2: think I should call something for you?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Like referees would say that. And so when people say
Speaker 2: something's wrong with the game, it's the same thing that's
Speaker 2: wrong a lot of times in the streets. The hierarchy
Speaker 2: is gone, so there's no respect to those and what
Speaker 2: they went through before you. And in our league, you
Speaker 2: got that's two games in a row against rookies. That
Speaker 2: against a champion, All Star, defensive player of the year,
Speaker 2: I get techn flag and files over a rookie, So
Speaker 2: then they never have to earn nothing. So then because
Speaker 2: you never have to earn nothing. There's never any animosity,
Speaker 2: there's never any to grant, none of that. And so
Speaker 2: you get contracts off potential, you get respect off a
Speaker 2: draft position. Yeah, and they never have to earn anything.
Speaker 2: And so then you say, well, what's wrong with the game.
Speaker 2: You tell me what young guy is a rival to?
Speaker 2: What young guys? Oh wait, oh wait you want.
Speaker 1: It ain't no rivals. It ain't no rivals. It ain't
Speaker 1: no beef, it ain't no like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And now I think that's what the league need. You know,
Speaker 1: even I mean going back to the episode of episodes
Speaker 1: of Coach from Boston, like maybe we need a scrap,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Not like we really need
Speaker 1: a scrap, but we need that mentality is gone, the passion,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, intensity to like no, we're
Speaker 1: not giving up, no layups, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like no, no, none of this funny ship is going down.
Speaker 1: And you know the B word is not even tolerated. Bro,
Speaker 1: that's listen crazy hey dog? You know KG?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: So KG, cold blooded, KG, a cold piece of work.
Speaker 1: Were playing at Golden State, he playing for Minnesota. Somebody
Speaker 1: filed KG after got who found He said, I'm tired
Speaker 1: of all these B words. Yes, and he said it
Speaker 1: again now back in our air. The referee couldn't even
Speaker 1: give KG the ball until he identified who is you
Speaker 1: talking to? Hire this? He was like, man, playball, play ball.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, bro, what are you talking to?
Speaker 1: Who are you talking to? Leave that ball and get
Speaker 1: that ball out of here? The leg game all that
Speaker 1: we need answers. But when you know KG, that's like
Speaker 1: he trying to get under your skin, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And I was like, damn, okay, that's his
Speaker 1: psych out. But that word is not even tolerated, especially
Speaker 1: from a rookie, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And a rookie that's what It's just not the word.
Speaker 2: How about this.
Speaker 1: I got an interest in you here in the summertime.
Speaker 2: I got an interest in one for you. I got
Speaker 2: word that came back to me that came from a
Speaker 2: reporter that Zach Edy was told by a referee. Hey,
Speaker 2: don't let him get in your head. Now, that's insane.
Speaker 2: Don't let him get in your head. Bro. You might
Speaker 2: as well put a polo on and go sit on
Speaker 2: their bench.
Speaker 1: That's sweek At.
Speaker 2: The rate that you're going to a player on another
Speaker 2: team and saying, hey, don't let him get in your
Speaker 2: head a rookie at that.
Speaker 1: You might as well give him a bottle and start nursing.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. That's what Those are the
Speaker 2: things that's going on in the NBA today.
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Speaker 2: In that same game, I get a text for saying
Speaker 2: boom on the three.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was the next question. How and when
Speaker 1: when you start? When did you start saying boom? I
Speaker 1: like that, though, Hey, the boom with the boom, you
Speaker 1: know what's crazy?
Speaker 2: So we kind of start saying that last year or
Speaker 2: I shoot the three and you know, we hit them
Speaker 2: with the boom, and it's me and then the whole
Speaker 2: bench Shoin and av really lit the leader of the charge,
Speaker 2: and they va ring he the leader of the consortium
Speaker 2: with me from the bench side and we and we shoot,
Speaker 2: I'll shoot it. They go boom. So I say it
Speaker 2: on the court, you know what. And my thing to
Speaker 2: them was like they all look when I don't say it,
Speaker 2: they be like, yo, we over here running back.
Speaker 1: I hit the three boom Like I like that, that's okay.
Speaker 2: That's when I get to text for the boom in
Speaker 2: the same game that I hit a flagrant file for.
Speaker 2: And by the way, on the flagrant file, I hit
Speaker 2: the ball on top of that right like. So again,
Speaker 2: these are just the things that's going on in the NBA.
Speaker 2: And again you asked why you wonder why the ratings
Speaker 2: are down.
Speaker 1: That's a momentum killer.
Speaker 2: That's because I didn't want to see some young guy
Speaker 2: that ain't proving nothing get star treatment like that. Nobody
Speaker 2: paying to see that.
Speaker 1: And they got superstars on the team. Yeah, like you know.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, like, I don't need me and j'all
Speaker 2: was talking like that to each other. If I found
Speaker 2: j'all like that, he wouldn't get that type of treatment.
Speaker 2: But you got rookies getting that type of tree because referees,
Speaker 2: you know, they probably feel like they've been beat up
Speaker 2: on a little too much over the years, and so
Speaker 2: they trying to They don't know, man, it's weird out here.
Speaker 2: It's weird. It's real weird out here. And they just
Speaker 2: got to figure out what these people paying to see?
Speaker 1: What's the wow? What kind of intense what's the intensity level?
Speaker 1: We need some storyline, some backstories. It needs to be
Speaker 1: you know, it need to be big brother beat up
Speaker 1: on little brother and then little brother fight back and
Speaker 1: start punching, and then that's that's how you build a rivalry.
Speaker 1: But you cannot like they got you know, like and
Speaker 1: and I do give a shout out to Memphis because
Speaker 1: they trying to earn they ship, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: However tactics or whatnot. But Jah and them young dudes,
Speaker 1: they trying to earn. They trying to earn their stripes,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And you got a lot
Speaker 1: of young okay, see, they trying to earn their stripes,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, even like a Houston, they
Speaker 1: trying to earn they stripes. Put their name out there,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean put theyself in position.
Speaker 2: And Detroit pistonsss.
Speaker 1: Cracking. And yeah, I wasn't even on the East. I
Speaker 1: was just thinking about, you know, the West. But the
Speaker 1: Pistons is cracking, you know what I mean. Orlando cracking,
Speaker 1: Cleveland cracking, and like you got people like trying to
Speaker 1: make a name for themself. And the history of the
Speaker 1: game is like somebody had to overcome Tim Duncan and Shack,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, uh, Kobe and Tim Duncan.
Speaker 1: Like people had to overcome somebody, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: from the superstar level, from the team superstar level. But
Speaker 1: like the ship wasn't easy. And if you start watering
Speaker 1: and ship, if you start watering the ship down, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And like there's no pecking like
Speaker 1: the league is about pecking order. It's all it's always
Speaker 1: been about, you know what I mean, Like it's it's
Speaker 1: always been about packing order. Do I think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get a call on GP or Jason kl But ever, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stop fighting, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stop fighting. But like you can't take
Speaker 1: the fight, you can't take the fight out of out
Speaker 1: of the game when it's lesser value players cannot get
Speaker 1: more attention in the superside. What is the best Steph
Speaker 1: Curry tries to talk you've heard from him or any teammate,
Speaker 1: And that's from Hunter Bumgardner eleven.
Speaker 2: I think the one where Steph was talking to Jaylen
Speaker 2: Brown when he hits a shot faked and he stepped
Speaker 2: and hit the three out the buzzer and he started pointing.
Speaker 2: He took his mouth piece out. Yeah, start pointing out
Speaker 2: what he was saying to Jaylen Brown right there in
Speaker 2: that moment. Point like what he was saying that jay
Speaker 2: Le Brown was one of my favorite moments. I'll give
Speaker 2: you three of my favorite moments. That one was one
Speaker 2: of my favorite moments when Clay hit the three and
Speaker 2: Dylan Brooks fell over and Clay ran over to him
Speaker 2: and point in his face while on the ground. I
Speaker 2: really enjoyed that moment. And Kad just had all these
Speaker 2: slick one liners. Man that Kate had hit you with
Speaker 2: a crazy one liner, like out of nowhere. And I
Speaker 2: would enjoy those moments. And then from my rookie year,
Speaker 2: Kendrick Perkins was on the Oklahoma City Thunder and you
Speaker 2: know we're a young up and coming team. Not even
Speaker 2: up and coming. We just young steph you know, getting
Speaker 2: off the ankle surgeries. Clay had an end decent end
Speaker 2: of a rookie year. Were just young and Jared Jackson
Speaker 2: our team. So Kendrick Perkins, you know he had I
Speaker 2: just won the championship a few years prior with Boston,
Speaker 2: got his contracting. Okay, See, you know he's feeling himself.
Speaker 2: He talking to our bitch. And I'm a bark I'm
Speaker 2: always bar been barking. But you know when you were
Speaker 2: a rookie again, back to rookie like that ain't really
Speaker 2: carrying no way. I'm barking. You're gonna hear me bark
Speaker 2: with they like, man, shut up? Like you have't got
Speaker 2: no stripes? How are you like? Shut up? Bro, Always
Speaker 2: keep barking, that's I am. But they ain't hearing none
Speaker 2: of that. So Jared Jack, being a vet that he
Speaker 2: is being around this league, knows that y'all can keep
Speaker 2: talking and they ain't gonna listen, like because y'all ain't
Speaker 2: done nothing right. So Jack start barking. And Jack, if
Speaker 2: you know Jack, Jack, don't get into it with many people.
Speaker 2: Jack ain't That's like Jack only gonna come in at
Speaker 2: the point where it's like hey, man, enough like that's
Speaker 2: when Jack gonna say something. And so Jack finally like, yo, bro,
Speaker 2: you keep talking over here like play the game man,
Speaker 2: and Kendrick Perkins start talking junk to Jack like yeah,
Speaker 2: and he mentions his contract. I think at that time
Speaker 2: Perk had just signed four for thirty two, if I'm
Speaker 2: not mistaken, which again at that time was big money,
Speaker 2: which again eight million dollars a year is still a
Speaker 2: lot of money, not in real life, but I'm just
Speaker 2: talking about in terms of the NBA salary at the time,
Speaker 2: that's big money. I think at the time the max
Speaker 2: salary is like fourteen perk Yeah, to the bench, You're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: something about his bag, like I got paid, and Jack
Speaker 2: like Jack going back and like, man, you ain't like that,
Speaker 2: like keep yelling over here. He's like, oh, I got paid.
Speaker 2: I made this money, and Jack was like, people make
Speaker 2: mistakes every day. People make mistakes every single day.
Speaker 1: You trash.
Speaker 6: I really enjoyed it because it was one of them
Speaker 6: ones where your back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really enjoyed that one. I really that was
Speaker 2: one of my favorite ones. Shout out to my boy
Speaker 2: Jared Jack This one next question from Groundcover Farm. Does
Speaker 2: Winby have the capacity to change the game with the
Speaker 2: same impact as Steph?
Speaker 1: Hell yeah. I mean when when I listen to you
Speaker 1: and how you talk about like defenses change for stuff
Speaker 1: right and like coverages and a whole different style. I
Speaker 1: look at Wemby and say, like, Yo, this this dude
Speaker 1: is still a kid, right, and you know he has
Speaker 1: every opportunity different than stuff coming in, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, to like be a superstar from the get go.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 1: Steph is iconic because he is self made. He is
Speaker 1: a self made superstar and a self made iconic upper
Speaker 1: echelon player and a game changer. Winby came in the
Speaker 1: game as a game changer, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And so I think from an impact perspective, You're not one.
Speaker 1: He's he's he's a rarity, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And so there there could be as it has already
Speaker 1: become a trend of highly skilled big guys, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like we've seen Joker and was like, damn, dude,
Speaker 1: like a point center. That's crazy. Now you see it
Speaker 1: Winby and it's like a seven six shooting guard, you know,
Speaker 1: what I mean. And you saw KD and it was like,
Speaker 1: damn a seven foot shooting guard, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And so like this dude is he got he got
Speaker 1: a little KD you know what I mean. He learning
Speaker 1: how to be a little yannist this year, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. He's just he's he just looks like
Speaker 1: a sponge that's having the best time out there, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And he ain't afraid to go
Speaker 1: for the greatest you know what I mean, the greatest title,
Speaker 1: the great you know what I mean, the greatest thing.
Speaker 2: That I think. Hell no, there's a zero percent chance
Speaker 2: Wmby's impact can be the same or even remotely close
Speaker 2: to stuff. And HER's why Wemby is as special of
Speaker 2: a player as we've seen coming probably possibly in the
Speaker 2: history of the NBA. And that's why he can't have
Speaker 2: the impact because you just can't be seven six or
Speaker 2: seven five or whatever being related all he is like
Speaker 2: nobody's just going to be seven six and want to
Speaker 2: do and like want to do what Wimby do. One
Speaker 2: of the reasons Steph has had such a large impact
Speaker 2: on the game that he had is because he looked
Speaker 2: like everybody sighs. And so because he looked, everybody sighs.
Speaker 2: Everybody thinks I can be stepp regardless of how athletic
Speaker 2: I am. I can learn to shoot the ball. And
Speaker 2: if I could shoot the lights out the ball and
Speaker 2: I can run all day and I can work on
Speaker 2: my handle, I can be stepped. The reality is where
Speaker 2: they failed to realize, is no, you can't, because his
Speaker 2: shot is like god given with a god given work
Speaker 2: ethic that tops is topped by maybe two people. Ever, like,
Speaker 2: so you know his ball handling, like Steph has an
Speaker 2: uncanny ability with his hands in general, Like we go bowling,
Speaker 2: he gonna bowl to something, even if he ain't bowled
Speaker 2: in five years. If we go golf, y'all obviously all
Speaker 2: know he's great at that. If we go to the
Speaker 2: batting cages, he's gonna hit home runs. If we go
Speaker 2: to a ping pong tournament, he gonna be at the
Speaker 2: final table. Like he has this uncanny ability with his
Speaker 2: hands and his hand eye coordination, which is another thing.
Speaker 2: And so again like, yes, you can practice these things.
Speaker 2: Once somebody wants to ask me, like, yo, why you're
Speaker 2: gonna shoot with the same archist Steph? I said, what
Speaker 2: why you don't shoot with the same arcist Steph. So
Speaker 2: why would you ask me that? Like, do you think
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to shoot with the same arcis staff
Speaker 2: or do you like, do you think it's that simple
Speaker 2: to shoot with that type of arc every time you
Speaker 2: shoot the ball? Do you know what goes into a
Speaker 2: jump shot? Do you know how every part of your
Speaker 2: body gotta be on one accord at the same time
Speaker 2: to get that rhythm every time? Do you know how
Speaker 2: hard it is to master a shot to where it
Speaker 2: looked the same every time. I don't even understand why
Speaker 2: you asked me that. Nonetheless, I said all of that
Speaker 2: to say no, Like, so I just don't think because
Speaker 2: people aren't going to see Wimby and be like, oh
Speaker 2: I can be that like no, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't that.
Speaker 2: No, But.
Speaker 1: I gotta challenge you on this because Wimby comes from
Speaker 1: the Steph tree, right, So shooting threes, yeah, right for sure?
Speaker 1: Due And what makes him different is he's the actual
Speaker 1: first player you've ever seen in your life that was
Speaker 1: created on two K. Right, So like the kids, the
Speaker 1: kids is like charging up their two K characters to
Speaker 1: be set like this was stuff we would we would
Speaker 1: we would do what we would do? You are my player?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I want my dude seven six with a
Speaker 1: handle coundug block shots, you know. And now it's like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, it's a real it's a real, like two
Speaker 1: k my player like in the NBA. You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Listen, I can agree with that BD, And
Speaker 1: so tracking tracking his stats because of this era. This
Speaker 1: era is based on you know, stats and analytics and
Speaker 1: his pace. He's on pace to transcend a lot of
Speaker 1: categories from if he stays healthy and have the longevity
Speaker 1: and you know, the career and if they can build
Speaker 1: around him, but individually from like getting off getting out
Speaker 1: the blocks, like bro, he he on pace to like
Speaker 1: be a game changer.
Speaker 2: I think I think all of that is I think
Speaker 2: I agree with all of that, and all of those
Speaker 2: things are true. But like right now, he counted the center,
Speaker 2: but he counted the two. Yeah, And I just think,
Speaker 2: like even if you look at Kd's game, KD, when
Speaker 2: when KD came into the league, KD was a two.
Speaker 2: He was a shooting guard. When he came into the
Speaker 2: league in Seattle, he was the starting shooting guard as
Speaker 2: KD career went career went on, he became a three,
Speaker 2: then he became a four, and nobody gonna want to
Speaker 2: admit it, but KD had his most dominant and most
Speaker 2: successful years at the three and four, right, And it's
Speaker 2: not it's not a knock to KD that he had
Speaker 2: his most successful years at the three and four. What
Speaker 2: happened was it allowed everybody else to form their roles
Speaker 2: once he moved to those positions. And with Wimby, where
Speaker 2: Wmby is going to why I don't think it's going
Speaker 2: to happen is how long can he play that way
Speaker 2: and not win at a high level, like and they're
Speaker 2: winning more this year, But in order to win at
Speaker 2: a high level, meaning in the playoffs, as you know,
Speaker 2: you need everybody to be clicking on all sillers, like
Speaker 2: you need everybody to be filling their role when you're
Speaker 2: trying to win at a high level. And so for Wimby,
Speaker 2: I think at some point he's going to have to
Speaker 2: learn when to move out of the way. And I
Speaker 2: can't just trail into this three. I can't just come
Speaker 2: down like right now. Wimby's also and no one really
Speaker 2: talks about this. Wimby's benefiting, right, now off of his naiveness.
Speaker 2: You know, he's benefiting off of not knowing how to
Speaker 2: play basketball right now and just playing off of short
Speaker 2: talent and shore ability. Right now. That's cool because he
Speaker 2: in year two. No one's accepting that in year six,
Speaker 2: and so you're a year six, but he was accepting
Speaker 2: you doing that. He got four years, he got so
Speaker 2: he's gonna be. That's fine, but it's just gonna.
Speaker 1: Be next year. He gonna put up even better.
Speaker 2: And that's next year. But if they don't win, if
Speaker 2: they don't win, then he's gonna become That's just part
Speaker 2: of this. Don't be when they if they don't win,
Speaker 2: because everybody else can't really fill their roles the way
Speaker 2: them roles need to be filled and they don't win,
Speaker 2: then people are gonna start attacking you for doing that.
Speaker 2: And then it's an issue that you're doing that, and
Speaker 2: and and a whole other thing comes with it. It
Speaker 2: ain't just like, oh, you just get to play as
Speaker 2: long as you can and figure it out. No, that
Speaker 2: pressure starts their mound. You're supposed to be that dude.
Speaker 2: Oh you ain't want it yet. Oh now you're trying
Speaker 2: to figure that out. So then it becomes less about
Speaker 2: oh my god, look how he just came across half
Speaker 2: court and in his mind is gonna become So I
Speaker 2: have to do what I gotta do win And that
Speaker 2: may mean I need to slide to this blo talk
Speaker 2: a little more. I just don't see it happening.
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 2: And here here's my gonna be as special as they come.
Speaker 1: But here's my thesis around this. I got one be
Speaker 1: on my team. I better hurry up and figure out
Speaker 1: a role if I want to stay around.
Speaker 2: That's fine, you know, yeah, but but but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got a league. But it's also it take
Speaker 1: a team. So somebody else gotta step up, right and
Speaker 1: somebody or or they gotta go build a team around
Speaker 1: him to build winners and build a winning system because
Speaker 1: san Antonio gotta win an ecosystem. They gotta go get
Speaker 1: they gotta go those dudes in San Antonio right now.
Speaker 1: Like the problem with Wenby is he don't have a
Speaker 1: job moret type of personality, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And he don't Chris Paul. Yeah, but Chris Paul is
Speaker 1: not a young dude that's ready to bark up your chest,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like San Antonio they ain't
Speaker 1: barking at y'all. They just out there playing basketball.
Speaker 2: And they're not gonna bring in a guy that's like that.
Speaker 2: That's not their culture.
Speaker 1: And Antonio was cocky, arrogant, you know what I.
Speaker 7: Mean, arrogance though they weren't just barking up the chimney.
Speaker 7: They never chimney that, no, but they had they had it.
Speaker 7: It was it was they had a championship pedigree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, y'all not.
Speaker 1: Gonna beat us, You'll not smart enough, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, haha, y'all win it right now, you're
Speaker 1: gonna walk y'all down. They had all all of that
Speaker 1: is one thou right or Detroit Pistons or like with
Speaker 1: these young dudes now they got like a little fight,
Speaker 1: like hold on, Drey, mind, you ain't gonna punk us,
Speaker 1: you feel what I'm saying. What I'm saying for San
Speaker 1: Antonio is they don't have no young dudes yet that
Speaker 1: I see, not even Winby, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: or somebody to ride with Winby to be like hold on, bro,
Speaker 1: like we barking up y'all tree too, We on our
Speaker 1: way back, you know what I mean. And so right
Speaker 1: now it's just like, Okay, we showcasing talent to your point.
Speaker 1: But I think for him because he's so naive and
Speaker 1: he's watching everybody, bro, you know what I mean, He's
Speaker 1: why he's a sponge in the game. He's going to
Speaker 1: He's going to push himself to win. That's the only
Speaker 1: way that he's going to exist as a phenomenon. And
Speaker 1: I think he actually has the personality and the game
Speaker 1: to actually to want that. You feel what I'm saying
Speaker 1: for sure, So like, but they gotta get some dogs
Speaker 1: around him, and they got to start standing up for
Speaker 1: theyself because if you're relying on Chris Paul to do that,
Speaker 1: Like Chris Paul is supposed to be the dude that
Speaker 1: calm y'all down and make sure y'all playing basketball, y'all
Speaker 1: should be doing everything else, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and just play it off a sheer force, share energy,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and like trying to be
Speaker 1: somebody everybody trying to claim a name is something and
Speaker 1: not going off a highlight or a good game or
Speaker 1: some ship like that.
Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying, Oh yeah, I feel it.
Speaker 2: And you can see that they don't have that. You
Speaker 2: know why, because Russ is standing there doing we be
Speaker 2: like yeah, yeah, Russell, don't touch my hair, Russe, say
Speaker 2: what you're gonna do?
Speaker 1: Come on, dude, like you know what I mean, like
Speaker 1: right right, and they you know, it's like, ain't a
Speaker 1: vet over there, and you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: Chris Paul can tell him. Hey, you know Chris Paul
Speaker 1: gonna give him the ism. Hey, bro, don't ever know
Speaker 1: nobody sung you like that? You feel what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't give a ship. So he got to develop
Speaker 1: a meanness. Yes, right, he's got to be me Right now,
Speaker 1: he's just talent, having fun naive. But soon like soon
Speaker 1: as it click, and it's like, oh I gotta be
Speaker 1: a could assassin, a killer. I gotta be thinking about
Speaker 1: every aspect of the game. So then I'm the show,
Speaker 1: not just like oh I'm going to the guard. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put up forty and you know, if we win,
Speaker 1: we win. If we don't, it's like, no, you gotta
Speaker 1: go now become I mean, Yanni's did it, you know what,
Speaker 1: Johanna's did it, and I think you know this kid
Speaker 1: got talented to do it, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, JT did it. Well, he came in he was young, talented,
Speaker 2: gott it with Brin in the conference finals, right, but
Speaker 2: like didn't quite have it. Couldn't get over the hunk. Yeah,
Speaker 2: a couple more times. Couldn't get over Jimmy Butler right
Speaker 2: then he plays, couldn't get over the hunk. He developed
Speaker 2: that you developed that you.
Speaker 1: Have to have to you got you like and and
Speaker 1: for him, he as a young dude, he had a
Speaker 1: lot of success early. Yes, to keep you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, he keep knocking at the door. He may
Speaker 1: not be saying nothing, but like now when you look
Speaker 1: at him, you know what I mean, it's like there's
Speaker 1: some fire there, you know what I mean. Because he
Speaker 1: won it so bad. Bro, he won it so bad,
Speaker 1: and now they want a championship, you know what that
Speaker 1: feel like. It's a different level to his game this
Speaker 1: year where you're like, I'm a finisher, I'm a closer,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like now they're starting to
Speaker 1: sync up. And so I think Wemby he is sponge,
Speaker 1: he got you know what I mean? And so he
Speaker 1: can he can be the personality that the San Antonio
Speaker 1: Spurs never was, you know what I mean, he has
Speaker 1: a freedom to do that, right And and and with
Speaker 1: a little bit of meanness with his personality, takes san
Speaker 1: Antonio and now it's like, okay, now you know it's
Speaker 1: it's a wild, wild West. And you know Winby is
Speaker 1: whatever nickname people gonna give him that don't sound like Wimby.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? You know for sure, I listen,
Speaker 2: I agree with you one hundred percent. I think Wimby
Speaker 2: does have that level of talent. I think he has
Speaker 2: that r around him that people can you know, feed
Speaker 2: off of, and that can become a larger than life personality,
Speaker 2: which he already is larger than life. I think he
Speaker 2: has all of that. I just go back to the
Speaker 2: original question, Uh, can he change the game like Steph?
Speaker 2: And I still stand by my answer. The reason I
Speaker 2: think no is because in order for him to eventually win,
Speaker 2: he's not going to be as able to play as random,
Speaker 2: and then you just become if you're not able to
Speaker 2: play as random as he is right now, you become
Speaker 2: one of the most special players we've ever seen. But
Speaker 2: as far as changing the game, we can't change to
Speaker 2: be Wimby like we can.
Speaker 1: But he can change the game as far as all right,
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be no little dudes running around here shooting threes.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to stock up on some seven footers
Speaker 1: like he could if he developed that trade. You stock
Speaker 1: up on seven footers now. Now now people are drafting
Speaker 1: different because they like, well, shit, we got six files
Speaker 1: and winn't be filing people, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: He filing people out, he playing in the block.
Speaker 2: In order for him to do that, though, he's gonna
Speaker 2: have to get put on more weight because right now,
Speaker 2: like for instance, Russ was guarding him in that game,
Speaker 2: and it's no knock to winby, it's just that Rus's
Speaker 2: gonna get underneath you. He's going to get physical. He's
Speaker 2: stronger than you already for sure, so he like but no,
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is, in order to do what
Speaker 2: you're saying also, he's going to have to get way stronger,
Speaker 2: because if you're saying that, he's going to make you
Speaker 2: have to go draft more seven footers that can shoot.
Speaker 2: That's not necessarily going to be the case if you
Speaker 2: can guard him with a six to six guy, because
Speaker 2: they're going to try to be physical and get on
Speaker 2: nerneath him. You see what I'm saying, So, right, got
Speaker 2: to get stronger. So that you then have to put
Speaker 2: a seventh footer on me, because the sixth foot guy
Speaker 2: can't do nothing, so it now has to be a
Speaker 2: seventh footer. And the only way he can match me
Speaker 2: is if he can shoot the three ball as well.
Speaker 2: Then that starts to because.
Speaker 1: It's I gave you that post I get. I gave
Speaker 1: you a whole little post post package. You'll never you'll
Speaker 1: never have to worry about a little dude standing you
Speaker 1: up in the post man call one eight hundred bard,
Speaker 1: oh mil I got you, man, You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: That's all he needs. Once he get Once he learned
Speaker 1: how to take it, like he don't even know he's
Speaker 1: seven six, bro, you know what I mean, Like he
Speaker 1: don't know he's seven six in the NBA. He's just talented,
Speaker 1: he's young, he's enthusiastic. But once he starts figuring out way,
Speaker 1: hold on, bro, I'm this close to the basket. I
Speaker 1: ain't even got a jump, blocking everything, getting every rebound,
Speaker 1: every putback. Okay, this is how I'm gonna get my
Speaker 1: forty twenty and twelve, no doubt. And then I'm gonna
Speaker 1: shoot my threes and all that to show like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know this is out of flow, but man, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna leave the when he decided he wants to leave
Speaker 1: the league in points in the paint, I think he
Speaker 1: can do it.
Speaker 2: But moving around the league, we got Julian I for
Speaker 2: thirty seven ninety two. What do you think about the
Speaker 2: seven game suspension of Jimmy Butler? And why do you
Speaker 2: think they did that?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm kind of on the fence with it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, for one, it's like, man, somebody,
Speaker 1: you know I've been I've been in that situation before
Speaker 1: where it's like, man, I don't want to be here,
Speaker 1: y'all don't really want me here, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And like, man, just gonna put me out of my
Speaker 1: misery and trade me, you know what I mean? And
Speaker 1: so you know you can I can understand why the
Speaker 1: Heat did it, you know what I mean? And look, man, everybody,
Speaker 1: then they didn't tip the iceberg, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like Jimmy won out and even though the Heat may
Speaker 1: not may or may not want to trade him or whatnot,
Speaker 1: like this dude ain't about to help you get to
Speaker 1: where you want to get to, unhappy, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like you know to me, he like, you know,
Speaker 1: he had emotional you know what I mean, and like
Speaker 1: that's that's his gift and his curse, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And so when you got a guy like
Speaker 1: that who play on his emotions and his attitude and
Speaker 1: his confidence and everything that he's built himself and his
Speaker 1: essentric character is really based off, you know, his emotional presence.
Speaker 1: His dog is like you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: he got heart like and so somebody who play with
Speaker 1: his heart on his sleeve, if his heart is hurt
Speaker 1: or bruised or anything is feeling hurt, like, you gonna
Speaker 1: get twenty five percent of him because he can't get
Speaker 1: past the heartache, you know what I mean. And so
Speaker 1: I think you know him and the Miami heat, they
Speaker 1: and a heartbreak moment, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: it's like, well, shit, you gotta you may have to
Speaker 1: suspend him because you know, it's like you about to
Speaker 1: get seven games of him going through, you know, all
Speaker 1: the emotions that he going through being somewhere he don't
Speaker 1: want to be, you know what I mean. With with
Speaker 1: some people, with the way that they're handling it too,
Speaker 1: it's really like all right, you can leave too, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, It's like, well, if I can leave,
Speaker 1: like let me go, you know. And so you know,
Speaker 1: it kind of feel like you know with Jimmy, and
Speaker 1: it's emotional, you know, like how he is as an
Speaker 1: emotional player, you ain't gonna be able to get no wins,
Speaker 1: you know, with him not being all the way locked
Speaker 1: in and playing with his full you know, freedom and
Speaker 1: capability and you know what I mean, and it's confidence
Speaker 1: and all that. Like that kind of happened to me,
Speaker 1: Dre when I was in New Orleans, different situation because
Speaker 1: I was heard by Scott that came in New Coach
Speaker 1: and like I remember me and bar Scott. It wasn't
Speaker 1: me and Barn Scott that really didn't hit it off.
Speaker 1: I have problems with management because my back was hurt.
Speaker 1: I needed rehaf They thought I was a pre Madonna,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And it's like, man, I
Speaker 1: can't survive a Bar Scott practice, if you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, I ain't all the way right. And then
Speaker 1: I get on the court and I ain't who I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to be, and you know what I mean, you
Speaker 1: going through all this and at the same time, that's
Speaker 1: when I got traded from New Orleans to Goden State.
Speaker 1: It was like, yo, you know, I remember Alan Brusk.
Speaker 1: So it was even a moment where you know, he
Speaker 1: kind of like ran up on me, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. He came from the stands, ran up on me, like, man,
Speaker 1: who do you think you are? I said, bro, take
Speaker 1: one more step, Freeze.
Speaker 2: Who is Alan Briscoe?
Speaker 1: Old school buster?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: One of them old school busters? But he was the
Speaker 1: GM and he come running. You know, Barrin, we have practice.
Speaker 1: I kind of practiced like because I'm in rehab and
Speaker 1: then in New Orleans like the rehab like an hour away,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I came running down man,
Speaker 1: I thought, I told you Prima Donna bo. I said, hey, Freeze,
Speaker 1: don't take one more step on me. And then bar
Speaker 1: scouts like what's going on? I said, okay, I'm out.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, y'all gonna have to train me.
Speaker 1: And I never forget it was the trade deadline. And
Speaker 1: I said, piece to all the people in the in
Speaker 1: the facility, you know what I mean, trainers and set
Speaker 1: outside that man office and he came out and he said, well,
Speaker 1: let's trade that line look like you're gonna be here
Speaker 1: for the year. I said, Man, if you don't take
Speaker 1: your ass back half of me here and trade me,
Speaker 1: I'm not fucking around. I'm gonna say right here, So
Speaker 1: you tell me. I don't care which team at this point,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that's how I got
Speaker 1: traded to go to Stay. But I can understand, like
Speaker 1: when you had a breaking point and it's like I
Speaker 1: need to go because now my feelings is hurt, y'all,
Speaker 1: feelings is hurt, y'all. Miss got a misperception, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like the relationship with the coach ain't
Speaker 1: ain't even off to the right foot in the foundation.
Speaker 1: And now you know, with Jimmy being there, that's a
Speaker 1: whole different situation, right because he been, he been to
Speaker 1: the top with these dudes, and so like when you
Speaker 1: feel like you're not appreciated, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: or you feel like you've been pushed out, or you
Speaker 1: feel like you're being you know, pointed out as like
Speaker 1: you'd escape go like it's hard to play, you know.
Speaker 1: And I think they just at the at the end
Speaker 1: of day rope.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I think they definitely are at the
Speaker 2: end of the rope. I've actually been hearing for the
Speaker 2: last couple of years that they were kind of tired
Speaker 2: of Jimmy. Jimmy was kind of tired of them. I
Speaker 2: think Jimmy was kind of a little more so enjoying
Speaker 2: just living in Miami and not I'm not one of
Speaker 2: those media people that make up stories. I'm not saying
Speaker 2: enjoying living in Miami like Jimmy's a party. Jimmy don't
Speaker 2: go out, So I'm not saying that. I'm just like,
Speaker 2: but living in Miami is a beautiful thing, and so
Speaker 2: I think he just enjoyed more so his life and
Speaker 2: what comes with him being in the face of the
Speaker 2: Miami heat. Again, Jimmy's a very serious guy, takes his
Speaker 2: craft very serious, works his ass off. So I don't
Speaker 2: want this to come off the wrong way. I just
Speaker 2: think like he had a good thing there where he's
Speaker 2: going to NBA Finals, you know, he's the man in Miami,
Speaker 2: and I think all of those things made what he
Speaker 2: was going through bearable. That's what I'm trying to get at.
Speaker 2: And I think it's just reached a point now where
Speaker 2: you like, what do I have left three more years?
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm gonna live in Miami for the rest of
Speaker 2: my life after three years anyway, you know, so, I
Speaker 2: think you start to get to that point where Jimmy,
Speaker 2: also Jimmy competitive as they come, wants to win a championship.
Speaker 2: And so the actual seven game suspension, I think my
Speaker 2: question about it would be watch seven, like why not five?
Speaker 2: What was the significance with it being said? You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, like, that's that to me?
Speaker 1: But I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't. I mean outside of it just being like
Speaker 2: why seven, Like why so random? I think my only
Speaker 2: thing is looking at what I believe the outcome is
Speaker 2: going to be, and what I believe the outcome is
Speaker 2: going to be very I was like, oh man, Jimmy's
Speaker 2: going here, Jimmy's on there. I think two things is
Speaker 2: one of two things are going to happen. It's just
Speaker 2: my opinion. I think pat Riley is pat Raley like
Speaker 2: and y'all have heard the stories of who pat Rally
Speaker 2: is and how pat Rally is just like I have.
Speaker 2: I can see two things happening. I can see pat
Speaker 2: Riley sending Jimmy Butler to a team an organization that
Speaker 2: he'd absolutely hate. This garbage I could also see pat
Speaker 2: Riley saying, hey, go home for the rest of the year.
Speaker 6: Just go home.
Speaker 2: We'll pay you. It's fine, go home. We're not trading
Speaker 2: you anywhere. And I could see that scenario as well.
Speaker 2: But the scenario that I don't see, I don't see
Speaker 2: it just playing out in Jimmy back with the man
Speaker 2: and Jimmy being who Jimmy is. I don't see that.
Speaker 2: I think it's too far past going. When stuff start
Speaker 2: getting to the media, when stuff start getting public, it's
Speaker 2: no longer in your control anyway. It is completely taken
Speaker 2: over by public opinion, and it's just hard to make
Speaker 2: it worse. So I think they reached the end of
Speaker 2: the road.
Speaker 1: And if you see how he was playing, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, it's almost like I can't even have
Speaker 1: that energy around when I didn't see the game, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: If you're playing on the West, you don't see me
Speaker 2: in the Eastern Conference games, so I didn't see any
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 1: It's just almost like you can't well, you can't stake
Speaker 1: nothing in that, you know what I mean, Like you
Speaker 1: can't put no eggs in that basket because you know.
Speaker 2: The basket.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying right, They're like you can
Speaker 1: you can you can see it, you can feel it,
Speaker 1: and you know, I feel like if I was a
Speaker 1: heat fan, you know what I mean, it's just helling.
Speaker 1: There's too much intensity around it. And I understand. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can understand that because even when I used to
Speaker 1: go sit on the bench at the games when I
Speaker 1: was hurt in New Orleans and then dick Out was
Speaker 1: the point guard, man, I used to hear people yelling
Speaker 1: at me like he's better than them anyway, okay, but
Speaker 1: the fans start developing a disdain because of the media,
Speaker 1: because of the end print. And now you're like, hold on, man,
Speaker 1: like I can be done with this, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Let me go somewhere anywhere. And I do
Speaker 1: agree with you. I do think that if I'm Miami,
Speaker 1: you know, why would I send him to a contender.
Speaker 1: I'm sending them somewhere I can go, get me some
Speaker 1: pieces rebuild, you know, I think that's what that's what
Speaker 1: it's on. Pat Riley mind, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Pistons are five hundred for the month of January for
Speaker 1: the first time since twenty eighteen. I just watched the
Speaker 1: Pistons Game five against the Lakers Championship Game. I was
Speaker 1: watching Bill Wallace. He was going off Pistons, Bro, how
Speaker 1: does it feel? You know what I mean? I know
Speaker 1: you got a you know, some sentimental value for your Pistons,
Speaker 1: your homegrown boys. How you feel about you know what
Speaker 1: they building?
Speaker 2: I think what they're doing is great. They got some
Speaker 2: young pieces. I think they got one and K Countyham. Uh,
Speaker 2: they have salary cap space, they got draft picks, they
Speaker 2: got everything you need to head in the right direction. Uh,
Speaker 2: Trajan Lane. Then as the general manager, it's on him.
Speaker 2: It's on him to get it right, Like you got
Speaker 2: everything in front of you that you need. And I think,
Speaker 2: you know, JB was a great hire. He's getting the
Speaker 2: best out of them young guys.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, they got young, hungry guys that want to compete,
Speaker 2: which I love. I think, you know, wish j Nivy
Speaker 2: at Speedy Recovery sus to see him go down. He
Speaker 2: was kind of having a breakout year, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, becoming a player that everybody thought he'd become
Speaker 2: out of Notre Dame. You know. So, I think the
Speaker 2: league is always better when you have the teams that's
Speaker 2: been at the bottom starting to rise up, and the
Speaker 2: way the Pistons been playing, like you know, for years,
Speaker 2: you look at the Pistons and you're like, oh, this
Speaker 2: is an easy game. They don't play hard. They are
Speaker 2: trash blah blah blah. Not anymore like you're looking at
Speaker 2: them now, like yo, they coming in and they are
Speaker 2: competing at an elite level. So it's good to see
Speaker 2: those guys playing the way they playing. Like I said,
Speaker 2: you possibly got one of them ones. And in young
Speaker 2: K countyhead. You know, you start seeing those young stars
Speaker 2: being built now by night in the NBA, and I
Speaker 2: think K can be one of those guys, and so
Speaker 2: really good to see. It's great to see young Thompson back.
Speaker 2: I get to Thompson twenty is mixed up. I think
Speaker 2: it's a man that's in I think a man is
Speaker 2: in Houston if I'm not mistaken, but I could be
Speaker 2: absolutely wrong. But you know, to see the Timpson twin
Speaker 2: back out there after what he was dealing going through
Speaker 2: medically and seeing him back defensively being an animal and
Speaker 2: catching lives, I think the Pistons headed in the right direction, man,
Speaker 2: And it's fun to watch I enjoy seeing it. And
Speaker 2: they young, you know, so they got a full run
Speaker 2: way ahead of them to go do it. And like
Speaker 2: I said, it's on trading langdon to get it done,
Speaker 2: to make sure they got the pieces to continue to
Speaker 2: build and put those pieces in place, not get over
Speaker 2: zealous and think you are ahead of where you are
Speaker 2: too soon and make a bad move that set you back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree.
Speaker 1: When I look at the Pistons, I see a big
Speaker 1: culture change, right and it's good to see the Detroit
Speaker 1: Pistons playing and shout out to my boy k Cunningham
Speaker 1: because last year, like they won a couple of close games,
Speaker 1: they lost a lot of close games. They lost a
Speaker 1: lot of games that they could have won, should have won.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, when we talk about winby,
Speaker 1: when we talk about the evolution of somebody becoming an
Speaker 1: All Star, I look at Kate Cunningham and like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: that dude is an All Star having an All Star
Speaker 1: year and may not get it this year, but definitely
Speaker 1: next year. But I want to see somebody like that
Speaker 1: in the All Star because now he's starting to become
Speaker 1: a finisher, you know what I mean? And like with
Speaker 1: these young dudes, they've learning how to finish games, and
Speaker 1: he's leading them, you know what I mean. He hitting
Speaker 1: the big shots, he's making the past, he doing all
Speaker 1: of it all. He's doing all all of it. So
Speaker 1: it's good to see Detroit as a brand because you know,
Speaker 1: we love Detroit. We love all the great the legends
Speaker 1: that come you know, from the city, from around you know,
Speaker 1: just the Michigan area. But the Pistons being back in
Speaker 1: the league, you know what I mean, and being somebody
Speaker 1: that's so force we got, I want, you know, we
Speaker 1: want to see what that evolution look like. I'm excited
Speaker 1: about that. Do you think Okay, see versus the Cavs
Speaker 1: is an NBA Finals preview.
Speaker 2: I think it's a possible NBA Finals preview. You know,
Speaker 2: two teams playing great basketball, growing and coming into their
Speaker 2: own young talent, young guard talent.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: Both teams got some good bigs obviously, Okay see shorthanded
Speaker 2: without check. But you know, I think both teams got
Speaker 2: a lot of depth, uh, kind of the contrasting two
Speaker 2: different styles though, well, okay, see the ball sticks a
Speaker 2: little more. You know, you gotta guard your man, Cleveland.
Speaker 2: That ball is humming Man. They moving that ball, you
Speaker 2: turn your head, the ball going up the way with
Speaker 2: three like and so it's the contrast to two different styles.
Speaker 2: Reminds me a bit of the coming up and coming
Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors trying to make their name with some
Speaker 2: with a young core and okay, see, reminds me of Houston,
Speaker 2: even Cleveland, but not as much Cleveland more Houston. But
Speaker 2: what I mean by that is you got one guy
Speaker 2: controlling everything. And if you think about those James Harden
Speaker 2: led Houston teams, Shay Gilgris, Alexander, one guy controlling everything,
Speaker 2: obviously got other guys getting off bron one guy controlling everything.
Speaker 2: Then obviously you had Kyrie doing what Kyrie does. Jaylen Williams,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like, and so I see
Speaker 2: the similarities in these teams and kind of those teams
Speaker 2: when we were coming through uh and and and the
Speaker 2: real Heyday, and I think it's beautiful to watch. But
Speaker 2: you know, I think I think for Cleveland where they're
Speaker 2: going to have to take that next step, and I
Speaker 2: think they've done a good job of it with the
Speaker 2: system that they've built with Kenny Atkinson coming in and
Speaker 2: the system they've built. Donovan Mitchell has historically struggled in
Speaker 2: the playoffs, and so with Cleveland, with Donovan being your
Speaker 2: go to guy like Shay gonna get his he's shown
Speaker 2: you that Donovan has historically struggled in the playoff and
Speaker 2: I think they have to be aware of that and
Speaker 2: already be ahead of time trying to figure out what
Speaker 2: we need to put in place to come back that
Speaker 2: if he struggles again, you know, because that can hinder
Speaker 2: their their chance at being one of those teams in
Speaker 2: this finals, and that can hinder their chance of being
Speaker 2: a team. That's a part of an NBA Finals preview.
Speaker 1: It is very hard for a guard and a guard
Speaker 1: led team to get you all the way where you
Speaker 1: need with no type of three four you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, potent presence, That's what I would say. Now,
Speaker 1: there are exceptions to the rules because you have exceptional
Speaker 1: guards you think Steph Clay, but you also have the
Speaker 1: balance of Harris and Bars, Eggan daland Jaymon Green Andrew Bogan, David.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So you're still staple, you know what I mean in
Speaker 1: the interior, and so you know, I would say on
Speaker 1: the Cleveland side, you know, Darius Garland, my boy, Donovan Mitchell.
Speaker 1: They have the talent to do it, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Yes, what they need and where I think
Speaker 1: is going to be critical for them is Evan Mowbley
Speaker 1: has to really become twenty in ten, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. He gotta really become twenty and ten, and
Speaker 1: they got to really use him as somebody who is
Speaker 1: close to the basket can get fouls, create files, right
Speaker 1: because you know you it's just put a lot down
Speaker 1: the stretch and in the playoffs, it's gonna put a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on Donovan Mitchell to get to the
Speaker 1: hole to shoe jumpers. Darius Garland gets to the hole.
Speaker 1: Shoe jumpers make plays, you know. The playoffs like that
Speaker 1: floor strength you know what I mean, and I think
Speaker 1: advantage to okay see, because the strength floor just means
Speaker 1: you got to play some one on one defense and
Speaker 1: now you gotta deal with a dude who just can't
Speaker 1: be stopped, you know what I mean, And like you know,
Speaker 1: no matter how tight the space you know, okay see,
Speaker 1: I think you know that third factor is going to
Speaker 1: be you know how checked you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: integrates himself into that system because they got a lot
Speaker 1: of talent, right, They got a lot of dudes who
Speaker 1: can do a lot of things. Harkenstein is solid. They
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like they're investing in size,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But they're gonna need check
Speaker 1: to step up, you know what. They're gonna need Jalen
Speaker 1: Williams to play that.
Speaker 2: You know he struggled last playoffs too. Stuff.
Speaker 1: You need that Batman, Robbin, you need that, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. You need those two you know, superpowers.
Speaker 1: But you know they also gotta they gotta get through
Speaker 1: that West, you know what I mean. And so okay,
Speaker 1: Cleveland has the matchup uh capabilities for any team in
Speaker 1: the East. Okay, See they can fuck around and get
Speaker 1: the wrong matchup. And now that first.
Speaker 2: Round, you know what I mean, appreciate it. You're getting tackled,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It becomes it becomes a little bit harder for them
Speaker 1: to like it from one round, and like, you know,
Speaker 1: the fight to fight, the fight gotta come from you know. Now,
Speaker 1: these talented kids, you got Dort, you know what I mean, Wiggans, Isaiah,
Speaker 1: Like one of these dudes is gonna have to become somebody,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean for them outside of shutting yep.
Speaker 2: No, that's the fact and the reality is the fight
Speaker 2: on the way can sometimes cost you, Yeah, because a
Speaker 2: tough fight along the way, it takes a lot. You
Speaker 2: may win the battle, yep, but over the course of time,
Speaker 2: it may cost you the war, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And so that's that's definitely something you always have to
Speaker 2: be livery uh in the Western Conference because it's just
Speaker 2: it's just a little different.
Speaker 1: And inexperienced Clipton last year, yes, and and then I
Speaker 1: also would saying inexperienced Clip did make them hungry, but
Speaker 1: they didn't get the experience that they needed to like
Speaker 1: have that next level of getting over the hump. So
Speaker 1: now they got to go through new familiar terrain, the
Speaker 1: unfamiliar terrain if they're going on a quest to the finals, right,
Speaker 1: because like, we ain't did this round, so we gotta
Speaker 1: we didn't beat Dallas. You know you have to watch right,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And you have to watch
Speaker 1: Dallas go to the finals, right, ye, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So like, yeah, you got that, but like
Speaker 1: you didn't win that series, so you don't know what
Speaker 1: that next round felt like. The next round felt like,
Speaker 1: so you're fighting also against unfamiliar territory and new terrain,
Speaker 1: so you know, a little different from Okay.
Speaker 2: See, that's the fact. And what I will say is
Speaker 2: I always talk about it.
Speaker 6: The know how.
Speaker 2: It's one of the biggest things. Like Boston. Boston ain't
Speaker 2: tripping on none of these games, you know why, because
Speaker 2: what they know is we know how to do it. Like,
Speaker 2: so just get us there. We know how to do it,
Speaker 2: know how. Like I'm telling you, know how is why
Speaker 2: we beat Boston in twenty twenty two. We just knew
Speaker 2: how to do it. You've been there before, yes, And
Speaker 2: you're right. These teams they don't know how to do it.
Speaker 2: And sometimes you run up against a team and you're like,
Speaker 2: you know what, they just knew how to do it.
Speaker 2: And so that's what both of these teams got to
Speaker 2: look out for. No.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: Our next one bog down dot parashifts b A r
Speaker 2: A sc HIV. What is the hardest part of being
Speaker 2: an NBA player that fans don't understand.
Speaker 1: The hardest part about being an NBA player is you
Speaker 1: play a game you love and winning the championship is
Speaker 1: the hardest thing you can do right, and people don't
Speaker 1: understand that. My son damn sure understand that. But also
Speaker 1: I don't think fans really understand how much hard work
Speaker 1: it takes to come back from injuries as a player
Speaker 1: who like came into the league injured by the way,
Speaker 1: coming off of like an Aco, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: It's just like you are just never ever one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: You're only like one hundred percent of like the seventy
Speaker 1: percent capacity that you can play at that year, only
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of that, like if you can get
Speaker 1: back to eighty, right, you just are never once you
Speaker 1: get once you got the knee surgeon, and it's just
Speaker 1: hard to get back to where you were gonna go, right.
Speaker 1: And so there's you know, just like a health plateau, right.
Speaker 1: And so I just don't think fans understand because when
Speaker 1: you talk when you like even a Kawhi, right, you
Speaker 1: look at somebody like Kauwhai, and like fans just got
Speaker 1: the wrong fucking perspective of like somebody who bust they
Speaker 1: asked to get back get on the court and kill,
Speaker 1: and you think this dude don't want to be on
Speaker 1: the court. Fifty five, forty three and ninety You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like I want to be over
Speaker 1: here in street clubs like every NBA, every NBA player
Speaker 1: wants to play. And like I actually like it now, man,
Speaker 1: because y'all got people around y'all that care about your longevity.
Speaker 1: We play like it was just like, oh you can.
Speaker 2: Play, you gotta play.
Speaker 1: Wasn't needed win ice and stem and you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, like do not get on that training table
Speaker 1: if you don't need to be there, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And then you get to you know, like
Speaker 1: I would say early in y'all career, where you know
Speaker 1: you could hang out on the training table. But like, dudes,
Speaker 1: was just hurt, you know what I mean, Like we
Speaker 1: didn't know how to how to It wasn't long have
Speaker 1: any training. It was always just getting you right for
Speaker 1: the next game, getting you right for the next game.
Speaker 1: And so I don't think fans really know and understand
Speaker 1: how hard it is to like be injured, come back
Speaker 1: play an entire season, Like you just never become one
Speaker 1: hundred percent, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean.
Speaker 1: You just like fighting, you know, mental battles, physical battles,
Speaker 1: and just you know, I just think a lot of
Speaker 1: times they just you know, in a selfish way. They
Speaker 1: want to see players play all the time, but a
Speaker 1: lot of times it's just like, man, you have no
Speaker 1: idea how hard it is to play hurt or to
Speaker 1: be hurt and can't play.
Speaker 2: Whereas athletes are master master compensators, it's just what we
Speaker 2: are you learning, like, ah, this thing is hurting, I'm
Speaker 2: a compensate on this thing to take the pressure off that. Like,
Speaker 2: that's that's just what it is. I think.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: I think one of the hardest things for me is
Speaker 2: to to do something at such an elite level and
Speaker 2: have the whole world that knows seven percent of what
Speaker 2: you know trying to tell you what that should look like,
Speaker 2: how it should look, how it should be done, like
Speaker 2: it's blasphemous and and and then like you can't really
Speaker 2: say much back you're censor than what you can say back.
Speaker 2: I'd say for me, that's I think that's one of
Speaker 2: the tough sparts, just like being at such an elite
Speaker 2: level but playing something that everybody in their mom think
Speaker 2: they know because they played on the elementary school basketball
Speaker 2: team and learned that if you dribble with two hands
Speaker 2: that that was called a double dribble, And they think
Speaker 2: that this thing that we do is the same thing
Speaker 2: that they did, And I'm just here to tell you
Speaker 2: it's not even remotely close. And just enjoy the game.
Speaker 2: That's what it is for me.
Speaker 1: I like that Dereck Rose night just passed. Uh Derrick Rose. Man,
Speaker 1: shout out to d Rose one of the greatest, just
Speaker 1: got announced that he's getting his jersey retired. You know
Speaker 1: we I think it's like one four twenty five is
Speaker 1: the day. Uh man, I mean one man. Just shout
Speaker 1: out to Derek Bro shout out like man, damn Bro,
Speaker 1: like wow, fuck, just shout out to Derek Rose. He's
Speaker 1: just so cold, you know what I mean, Like what,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, just man, this dude is just he
Speaker 1: was amazing, you know what I mean, he was amazing.
Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to play against him as
Speaker 1: much as I wanted to, but I did catch him
Speaker 1: when I was like, Okay, I'm that guy, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? You know I'm that guy dog And
Speaker 1: I never forget down the stretch of the game like
Speaker 1: that food was posting me up. They was throwing it
Speaker 1: to him on the block, Bro, and he got too Hey,
Speaker 1: dre he got two buckets on me. And I looked
Speaker 1: at him. I said, Bro, who are you?
Speaker 2: That's crazy?
Speaker 1: And they was going, hey bro, it was different, And
Speaker 1: you know, I haven't been on I didn't been on
Speaker 1: the you know, on the ISO Garden tea bag guarding
Speaker 1: Kobe down the stretch. Iver said, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: but like I ain't never really had nobody clear out
Speaker 1: and post me on the short corner and it's a guard.
Speaker 1: You know, Hey bro? He jumped over me and shot
Speaker 1: a jump hook, turn around, shot a bank shot fade.
Speaker 1: I was like, Bro, who are you? After the game,
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, Bro, I'm a fan. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm a fan.
Speaker 2: I know who you are. Now, Bro, I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't know you was that nice.
Speaker 2: I followed you in Memphis, you know what I mean, Like, damn, Bro,
Speaker 2: I did not know he was this nice shout out
Speaker 2: to d Rose and shout out to like his next venture,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, what are he gonna
Speaker 2: be doing next in life? You know?
Speaker 1: Like his platform? You know, the way he telling his
Speaker 1: side of the story and projecting his story is just
Speaker 1: giving me an opportunity to learn more about him and
Speaker 1: grow more about him. Just as a fan. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, his game and a fan of his,
Speaker 1: so man, shit, I couldn't guard him.
Speaker 2: Listen, man, d Rose, Wow, what an incredible player. Man.
Speaker 2: I had my first opportunity to see d Rose play
Speaker 2: up close and personal. Uh was that big time in
Speaker 2: Vegas and d Rose and Eric Gordon was play and
Speaker 2: on the same team. They was playing for Mean Streets
Speaker 2: and the D one Greyhounds, Bill Walker and Oj Mayo.
Speaker 2: Somehow I got into that capacity field game, that capacity
Speaker 2: standing room not only ain't no standing room either, and
Speaker 2: watching them put on the show was one of the
Speaker 2: most incredible games I've ever seen in my life. And
Speaker 2: then I had my first opportunities to really play against
Speaker 2: d Rose. Like when I came into the league. I
Speaker 2: think d Rose got hurt in two thy eleven or twelve,
Speaker 2: so right when I came into the league, it got hurt.
Speaker 2: And then if you remember in twenty and fourteen, I
Speaker 2: want to say it was there was a World Championship
Speaker 2: team and d Rose hadn't really played for the boys yet.
Speaker 2: He came back, and he came back. His return was
Speaker 2: with USA Basketball and the World Championship team and I
Speaker 2: was on the select team. Uh. Coming to practice against
Speaker 2: those guys get them ready, which was an honor for
Speaker 2: me because I'm on the select team. I was geek
Speaker 2: man and like the rose came down full speed at me.
Speaker 2: I come up stopping at the free throw line. He
Speaker 2: hit me with a crazy I shifted all the way
Speaker 2: the other way. He up and under that thing layup.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, Like it was just
Speaker 2: like that. And again he was coming off injury, so
Speaker 2: I can only imagine what that crossover and what that
Speaker 2: up and underlooked like two and a half years prior
Speaker 2: to that, but completely left me in the dust. And
Speaker 2: I was just like, Yo, that's crazy to see that
Speaker 2: type of athleticism up close. But h just a big
Speaker 2: fan of d rose Man. How he carried the city
Speaker 2: of Chicago. That's Chicago's heartbeat right there. That's that's Chicago's
Speaker 2: sun right there on, you know. And to go to
Speaker 2: Chicago to get drafted number one people and actually live
Speaker 2: up to it and become the NDP in your city
Speaker 2: with the Bulls you grew up a fan of, and
Speaker 2: to actually do that and then to accept with grace
Speaker 2: when it came to an end, he accepted it with
Speaker 2: nothing but complete grace. That the team that he won
Speaker 2: MVP on, that the city that he's the heartbeat of us.
Speaker 2: And I take this with a grain of salt. The
Speaker 2: city never moved on from him who is pooh and
Speaker 2: that is it. But when that city, I mean in
Speaker 2: that organization said you know what, it's time we move on,
Speaker 2: we trade in man, that man handled it with such grace,
Speaker 2: continued to bounce back even after that, you know, like
Speaker 2: just see how he handled all of that man like.
Speaker 1: Road was man, legend for life. Man ha hall of famer,
Speaker 1: all that ship. Man that's come on. Man, he woning
Speaker 1: them once.
Speaker 2: And and by the way, the the questions on, it's
Speaker 2: de Rosea hall of famer. If he not. If you
Speaker 2: win MVP in the NBA, you're Hall of Famer. You're
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer. Moving on. I don't care if
Speaker 2: you play one year. If you played one year in
Speaker 2: the NBA and you win MVP of the NBA, bro're
Speaker 2: moving on. It's Derek Rose, hall of Famer. Stopping.
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous how playing he won in them ones.
Speaker 2: Moving on? All right, We're gonna take three random a
Speaker 2: few random questions before we get out of here. First one,
Speaker 2: I'll start slought is legend. If you guys were a
Speaker 2: pro wrestling tag team, what would your name be and
Speaker 2: what's your walkout song?
Speaker 1: Uh, it'll be a tom Mdog and we will be
Speaker 1: called the the dog Pound.
Speaker 6: I rock with that.
Speaker 2: They no more O. Next one from Sweet Doctor Jake eleven.
Speaker 2: Start from two thousands to now with the two of you,
Speaker 2: what's the most lethal? Starting five? So us two in
Speaker 2: the lineup, and then you add your five, you add
Speaker 2: your three.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, I would have to say shit shack of
Speaker 1: course number one, no question. Uh Kobe, okay, gotta have shot,
Speaker 1: got as Kobe?
Speaker 2: And then uh.
Speaker 1: In the two thousands, I say, Derek, I like that.
Speaker 2: Well listen here, I'm gonna go because reading is fundamental,
Speaker 2: and we read that Michigan Steaks say from the two
Speaker 2: thousands to now, So I'm going big now. Yeah. See,
Speaker 2: reading is fundamental. Reading is very fundamental. You gotta read
Speaker 2: it to me, right, I read I read it. I
Speaker 2: see you're right, I read it. So I got another
Speaker 2: one for you. I know it's okay to us, which
Speaker 2: is learn and listen. Listen to learn. Damn reading, it's
Speaker 2: fundamental and you need to learn to listen and listen
Speaker 2: and learn. So since I know that reading is fundamental.
Speaker 2: Two thousands now, I'm going b D steph myself.
Speaker 1: I'm fucking with.
Speaker 2: AD and DS, going with the big Diesel for sure.
Speaker 2: No question asked that center to ever grace the NBA floor,
Speaker 2: No questions asked.
Speaker 1: I'm fucking with that. I'm fucking with that line up show.
Speaker 1: That's a championship.
Speaker 2: So we got dog, we got scoring, we got sighs.
Speaker 1: Man, come on, can we can we live that? All right?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: Speaking of the two thousands? Bro, speaking of the two thousands,
Speaker 1: what you think about that new Jello song?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you, Bed, I may be
Speaker 2: the only person in the walk of life that I
Speaker 2: live in that I have not heard the song. Oh
Speaker 2: my god? What I haven't heard the song? Is it
Speaker 2: really good? Or are y'all just like laughing at him
Speaker 2: but kind of laughing with him but laughing at him?
Speaker 1: No, it's hard. The reason why I like it is
Speaker 1: like he brought back a two thousand, hy right, so
Speaker 1: like it ain't like yeah, I ain't bro telling you
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Til like two thousands, Bro, You're gonna be like, yo,
Speaker 2: I remember this song. I was growing up.
Speaker 1: That's how I got it gets you right, like it not,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But he didn't come out
Speaker 1: trying to do drill rap. He didn't come out trying
Speaker 1: to rap like little baby or what everybody else rap.
Speaker 1: Like I think this is kind of like showing like, man,
Speaker 1: my shit different, my ship hidden and is knocking like
Speaker 1: it's little hooked, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So, so LeVar was right, Jollo ain't necessarily making in basketball,
Speaker 2: but you're saying he about to make it as a rapper.
Speaker 1: All along, got the number one YouTube song. Right now,
Speaker 1: I got dudes calling me like, yell man, you know Jello,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to book him for a show.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to book him friendly. All right, one second,
Speaker 2: Charles just sent the link. I'm about to listen, y'all
Speaker 2: give me a second.
Speaker 1: It's like when you be like, yo, man, my cousin
Speaker 1: rap and people be like, oh, that pulled on rap,
Speaker 1: and then he come with some like that at the
Speaker 1: family reunion. It's like, Okay, this smacking.
Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, that's knocking. Hey, you don't need watching.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: Definitely had him had him listening to some big times
Speaker 2: coming up.
Speaker 1: He had to ship gone rap to Lonzo can rap too.
Speaker 2: I actually heard Zo rap before. It's okay rap, but
Speaker 2: that's knocking out. I rock with that, all right? All right?
Speaker 2: Jello halftime shoulder All Star Game? What up? That'd be
Speaker 2: hard bring bring bring the Jello bringing the All Star
Speaker 2: Game back? The All Star Game been dead. That's hard.
Speaker 2: Yello here to save it. I got listening. Whoa, hey,
Speaker 2: we don't we done here? This episode is a rap.
Speaker 2: I'm going to listen to Jello. Whatever you say, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1: Should not kid?
Speaker 2: That's all right? From this episode of The Draymond Green
Speaker 2: Show with My Dog badat.
Speaker 1: Right, lay out peace Peace
Speaker 2: The volume