1 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Chris Harry with you on Chargers Weekly, Big 2 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: time episode for you this week. A bit later, I'll 3 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: be joined by NFL Network draft expert Mike Mayock from 4 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: UCLA Pro Day. The LA Times is Sam Farmer also 5 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: checks into talk NFL draft and free agency. But first, 6 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: a great conversation with Super Bowl winning head coach an 7 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: NFL Network analyst Brian Billick. It's my great pleasure to 8 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: welcome in Brian Billick to Chargers Weekly and coach It's 9 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: really been a wild six weeks in the NFL, going 10 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: all the way back to the Super Bowl when that 11 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: Alex Smith trade was reported. Can you remember an off 12 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: season as frenetic as this one? No, only in the 13 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: sense that because it's so much about the quarterbacks. I 14 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: don't remember this much quarterback movement, whether sim like you said, 15 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: beginning with the Alex Smith trade, obviously everybody waiting to 16 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: see where Clark Cousins is going to go, how the 17 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: three quarterbacks capable quarterbacks with Minnesota Vikings were going to 18 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: shake out. As is typical, there are you know, a 19 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: number of teams that are in need of quarterbacks, and 20 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: you combine that with what appears at this point to 21 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: be a fairly solid quarterback draft. H Yeah, there a 22 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: lot a lot of interested at that key position. You know. 23 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: One of the most fascinating things that I saw was 24 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: really just seeing these quarterback dominos fall to start free agency. 25 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: We knew Kirk Cousins was going to get that record deal, 26 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: but coach outside of Cousins, you see a two year 27 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: deal for case Keenum, one year deal for Bradford, two 28 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: year deal for McCarron, one year deal for m account 29 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: of Bridgewater, and you read the tea leaves a lot 30 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: of teams looking towards the draft to find their future 31 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. Yeah, and then that's typically where you need 32 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: to go. I mean free agents to see quarterbacks quarterbacks 33 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: that have changed teams has not been a great history. 34 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: It's kind of a buyer beware. Not that it can't 35 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: be productive. I think you can tell by the nature 36 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: of the contracts. Short of the Kirk Cousin contracts, It's okay, 37 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: we know we need to pay for the quarterback position, 38 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: but we're not going to be married to a long term. 39 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: Because all of these quarterbacks, including Kirk Cousins, including Drew 40 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: Brees because of his age, each carries a certain caveat 41 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: as to why they're available. You know, teams aren't in 42 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: the market of letting go of good, good players, particularly 43 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: good quarterbacks, so as good as Kirk Cousins may be. 44 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: And I think it's a great state with Minnesota. You 45 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: could look at Washington and say, well, why why did 46 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: they let him go? And I'm not sure they may 47 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: not have given the contract itself. Maybe come up with 48 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: a better plan with Alex Smith coach. Bol was the 49 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: most surprising non quarterback move that you saw over the 50 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: past few days. A lot of surprise releases and then 51 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: you know, just a lot of player movement in general. Well, 52 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: you know one thing, Audrey Nwson really phenomenal general manager. 53 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: I had a chance to work with in Baltimore all 54 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: those years. It was kind of a ritual. We'd always 55 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: start each off season in coming into the offsetting. Now 56 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: we can't keep everybody right. Um, you got to remember that, 57 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: and you can't because that the business side plays into it. 58 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: The cap has very real implications. A cap deal that 59 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: may not may be prohibitive for one club may work 60 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: for another. So often and this is economic driven. I 61 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: think in Seattle, the fact that some of the perds 62 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: that they're doing, particularly Richard Sherman. Now obviously with the 63 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: injury that he's had, He's had two Achilles injury. Most 64 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: of these players, Trent Murphy leaving Washington's a perfect example. 65 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: A little bit of a risk in Buffalo picking him up, 66 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: but this could be a huge reward as well, because 67 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: it's a risk reward when it comes to the potential 68 00:03:55,200 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: for injury and how the contracts set. The other thing is, 69 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: I think you see some players leaving. It's an interesting phenomenal. 70 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: Some players will actually take less money to go someplace 71 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: else because I think it's very difficult for a player 72 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: to come back into a locker room taking a reduced 73 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: contract and how that affects his status in the locker room. 74 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: You mentioned your relationship with Azie Newsom in Baltimore as 75 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: a head coach working with the general manager. How much 76 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: does the philosophy towards free agency change when you take 77 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: into account how your team performed the season prior, because 78 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: I imagine you want to have just that even kill 79 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: each year. But based on how your team performs the 80 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: year prior, how much does that change how you go 81 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: about free agency? Well? A lot it has to, but unfortunately, 82 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: need is a terrible evaluator because sometimes you press some 83 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: of the things and what you're seeing based on that need. 84 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: Our philosophy always going in was to do the things 85 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 1: in free and we weren't a big, big ticket free 86 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: agent team, and I think a lot of teams have 87 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: gotten away from that. Outside of the quarterback position, you're 88 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: not seeing these huge contracts, the mistakes that we used 89 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: to make with these huge contracts that went out to 90 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: players in free agency. But you really most people I think, 91 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: go into philosophy they want to address needs a free 92 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: agency that allows them to draft with an open hand. 93 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: With a free hand meaning that you don't get into 94 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: the draft because again, need is a terrible evaluator in 95 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: the draft as well, and if you have a particular need, 96 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: particularly in the early rounds, it may warp how you're 97 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: viewing a given player because you have a particular need 98 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: of that position. So a free agency, if you can 99 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: address some of your basic needs so that indeed you 100 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: can stay to the philosophy you have taken the best 101 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: player in the draft, particularly early, that's usually a good 102 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: way to go. Coach. I heard Lewis Riddick on ESPN 103 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: recently reference Finding the Winning Edge, that incredible book that 104 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: you helped write with Bill Walsh, and it was in 105 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: regards to free agency and how teams sometimes will give 106 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: big money to that big name based on past performance 107 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: without taking into consideration how that players going to fit 108 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: into that team's culture or just the dynamics of that 109 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: specific organization. Can you expound on that and why you 110 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: think teams sometimes fall into that free agency trap? Well, 111 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: and they'll keep in mind when we wrote that book 112 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: that was on that was pre free agency. Yes, we 113 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: were still going through Plan and B and all the 114 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: other I remember George Young for those that can remember 115 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: when we went back and in the infancy infancy stage 116 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: of working towards players B free agents. We began with 117 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: Plan B, which was kind of a convoluted process of rank, 118 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: you know, placing a player in a certain category and 119 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: you're paying so much. I remember when George Young when 120 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: came around the organizations to explain it. One of our 121 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,679 Speaker 1: people said, you know this, this, this Plan B doesn't 122 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: make sense. George said, we should have seen Plan A 123 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: because it was a kind of a convoluted way to 124 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: get us to where we knew we were eventually going 125 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: to be. Bill Walsh in particular, was one. As difficult 126 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: as it is, Bill had a particularly keen eye for 127 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,239 Speaker 1: when let a player go leave the organization, a coveted 128 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: player that had been a big party of success just 129 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: prior to them reaching their peak and then that precipitous fall. 130 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: Joe Montana is a perfect example. Ronny lots another example, 131 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: and Bill had pretty good timing in that regard for 132 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: a couple of reasons. One obviously that what he didn't 133 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: want to get into the position where he was going 134 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: to have to pay a player for past performance, one 135 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: that he had affection for, one that had the organization 136 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: really did. Oh, but you can't pay for past performance, 137 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: and that's where teams get into trouble. The other problem 138 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: they get into is when they look and they feel 139 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: like they're that one player away, which they very rarely are, 140 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: but they're one player away at this position or that 141 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: to getting them to a super Bowl. And typically that's 142 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: a mistake because you overpay. I remember, aren't rooting the 143 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: legendary owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers is I don't mind 144 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: overpaying for a good player. I just don't want to 145 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: overpay for a bad player. And I think Bill Belichick 146 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: probably the close example of that when it comes to 147 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: letting players go a little bit earlier than you need to. 148 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: And you know, we're seeing some some of these guys 149 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: like Danny m and Dola, Dion Lewis they sold or 150 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: leaving New England, and I think Belichick just has that 151 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: confidence that hey, believe in our system, We're going to 152 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: bring some guys in that we think makes sense, and 153 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: we're also developing players in house. Yeahs those five super 154 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: Bowl rings in his back pot. That doesn't hurt either 155 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: a lot of latitude to make those kind of moves 156 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: where other organizations might be a little more timid about that. 157 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: And they've done a great job because of the anchors 158 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: that they have, the main anchor obviously being Tom Brady, 159 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: that they can they can bring in veterans at a 160 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: time in their career at the right price, with a 161 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: very specific role in mind. That that's really I think 162 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,239 Speaker 1: the think that that New England has done most effectively. 163 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: They sign up a major player or a veteran player, 164 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: one that if they're wrong, ends up not being productive, 165 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: doesn't cost them a great deal. The player comes in 166 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: knowing that it's a great organization from a chance of 167 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: winning a Super Bowl that they there compared to other organizations, 168 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: buy into the fact, Okay, here's your role. You're gonna 169 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: be just a slot guy. You're just going to be 170 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: a rush and on Nickel's situation, you're just going to 171 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: be a first and second town defender. Whatever it is 172 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: the role that they're looking for. They usually get veterans 173 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: at that point in their career who have resisted that 174 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: to a certain degree, but now realize at this point 175 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: in their career and the fact that it's the Patriots 176 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: of Bill Belichick telling them that they're more willing to 177 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 1: buy into it. You know, the Chargers so far or 178 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: taping this on a Friday, they've been relatively quiet so 179 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: far in free agency. They did make that important move 180 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: and extending Casey Hayward taking care of their own internally, 181 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: and this goes back to just what we just talked about. 182 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: You know, quiet can be a good thing when you 183 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: have a majority of your core in place, and I 184 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: think Tom Telesco has really done a good job of 185 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: that second and third wave of free agency. I don't 186 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: know if you could expound on just how important you know, 187 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: everybody gets caught up. I think fans get caught up 188 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: in the first few days of free agency, but it's 189 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: really the second and third waves where you can really 190 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: build out your team. That's where the deals are, that's 191 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: where you want to be. You really, you know, it 192 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: usually is not turned well, turned out well other than 193 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: you buy the day, you buy the press conference, you 194 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: buy the needy coverage in making this sign of that 195 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: sign and when you sign your own perfect example is 196 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: in New Orleans. You know Drew Brees and obviously it 197 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: was important you went back to New Orleans. Imagine the hubbub, 198 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: Imagine that the headlines, Imagine the shock wave that would 199 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: have been if one of these other teams inside Drew Brees, 200 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: it would have been the free agent signing of the decade. 201 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: Well when New Orleans did it, and that's exactly what 202 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: they did as they signed a free agent Drew Brees, 203 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: you don't get as much fanfare credit for it because 204 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: it's your own guy. So you do want to take 205 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: care of your own guys, and then that always is 206 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: a priority in free agency, particularly when you have a 207 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: club where all of a sudden, if you go out 208 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: and you have a couple of guys that are on 209 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: that cusp this year, next year going to free agency 210 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: that you'd like to get those deals done, but you 211 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: got to get another high price free agent. Now there's 212 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: sitting there going, well, okay, one of my chop liver. 213 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: You know, you didn't want to get need done, so 214 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: you went out and you got the pretty girl on 215 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: the block, so to speak. And that's not a position 216 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: you want to be in either. Coach, how would you 217 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: assess this Chargers team in twenty eighteen after seeing how 218 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: they finished last season? Obviously the coaching staff stays intact 219 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: with wizzon hunt in Bradley and coach Lynn a really 220 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: good first year in Los Angeles. Yeah, I think, And 221 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: you always went to that team that has that tip 222 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: at the end of the season to see if they're 223 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: going to be one of those teams and would typically 224 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: have six or seven that find their way into the 225 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: playoffs that weren't the year before. Certainly Chargers and with 226 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: the facing with the Philip Rivers, because you got to 227 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: start with the quarterback position. Certainly have a solid team 228 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: in a division that isn't a great deal of flux 229 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: right now. Obviously in Kansas City with the changeover at 230 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: the quarterback in as much as they think of Pat Mahomes, 231 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: that is going to be a major change for them. Obviously, 232 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: you Oakland to switch over to John Group, the team 233 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 1: that was supposed to be very good last year, and 234 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: we'll see if they can follow up with it a 235 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: healthy Derek Carr and how they come into it. Denver 236 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: in total transition as well, because you've got unsubtled quarterback 237 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: positions in two of the four teams, and so the 238 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: fact that you've got a Philip Rivers is a definite 239 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: advantage in that division. Coach. I love draft season. Path 240 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: to the Draft on NFL Network starts on Monday, I 241 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: think three pm Pacific. You're gonna be a big part 242 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: of that show. Looking at this upcoming draft class. Let's 243 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: start with the quarterbacks. What excites you about these five 244 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: guys that most seem to think will be first rounders? Well, 245 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: we got a long way to go. Yeah, we as 246 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: we and we're going to pick them apart. I'm sure 247 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: this does appear to be a decent quarterback draft. I'm 248 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: just right now because of the path of the DAT 249 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: Draft and that I'm going to be on doing their 250 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: show every Friday. It's on five days a week, Monday 251 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: to Friday. Those I want to get inston and draft, 252 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: you gotta follow this show. Daniel Jeremiah, Bucky Brooks, like 253 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: Mayakazon It occasionally Charles Davis used to a tremendous job. 254 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: They really do, and if you want to get ready 255 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: for the drafting, you really do have to check it out. 256 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: But I think in it with regards to the quarterbacks, 257 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: it appears that Sam Donald's is kind of the class 258 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: of the of the class, so to speak. We'll see 259 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: if it indeed holds up. Um. I have to get 260 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: into the film and look at him a little bit more, 261 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: if he appears to be the most solid choice among 262 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: the people that are looking at and look at it 263 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: and wait, deal more everybody else Again, Now everybody's got 264 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: it's a you know, subject to the beholder, and everybody's 265 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: got a little bit of a qualification on it. Obviously, 266 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: Rosen and Ucla looks to be a tremendous talent, but 267 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: there are some questions about the mindset that that he has. 268 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: A lot of people I'm comparing with Jay Color, which 269 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: is not a bad thing. Necessarily, We're talking about a 270 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: four thousand yard passer and a guy that has had 271 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: twenty seven plus touchdowns but for some reason has not 272 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: been as a productive again man Josh Allen from up 273 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: in Wyoming. Again, a lot of great raw talent, the school, 274 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: you know, in the smaller division, so to speak. But 275 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: unless remember Carson Wentz came out of a small school. 276 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,119 Speaker 1: In that regard, Baker Mainfield is a very interesting prospect. 277 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: Unless remember last year in the later part of the 278 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: first round, Deshaun Watson, it was really one of the 279 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: most exciting and quarterbacks I've seen a long time was 280 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: the twelfth pick. So there seems to be a range 281 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson, some of the others that you put 282 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: in there, Mason Rudolph. There seems to be a pretty 283 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: good solid class. We'll see how many actually end up 284 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: in the first round. Like I said, no more so 285 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: than it's a quarterback position. Need is a terrible evaluator, 286 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: and sometimes we over because they needed quarterback. We overgate 287 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: these guys. You know. With Josh Allen, he's such an 288 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: intriguing prospect because of the arm and I think a 289 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: lot of people pegged him as the top quarterbacks in 290 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. Last year had some struggles at Wyoming, this year, 291 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: and accuracy was a big part of it. Is accuracy 292 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: something that you can teach a quarterback coach, No, And 293 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: it's funny when I would go around and you look 294 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: at these guys and a coach say, well, you can 295 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: do this and that, but you can correct that. Well, no, 296 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: not really. I mean there are certain things you can 297 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: do with the footwork. Obviously there's going to be a 298 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: maturation in reading defenses in life. But either a guy 299 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: has a natural throwing action or he doesn't, and that's 300 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: a concern. I'm with you one hundred percent. Accuracy has 301 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: kind of become the buzzword, and there's a lot of 302 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: different qualifiers you reference finding the winning edge and Bill 303 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: did a great job and we did in that book 304 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: of talking about what quality should should be. Should you 305 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: be going arm strength, flumptional intelligence, athleticism in the pocket. 306 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: There's any number of things, and each quarterback carries it 307 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: in different ratio, so to speak. But what that combination 308 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: is for a quarterback is hard to quantify. And Webb 309 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: does seem to be very very intriguing physically, and again 310 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: you could say, well, what could look at Carson Wentz 311 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: where he came out of them but I will tell 312 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: you the lack of accuracy being under sixty percent, particularly 313 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: in the college game, to me, is a huge red 314 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: plaque coach. Besides the quarterback position, I know you're just 315 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: digging into the draft here as we are, gosh, six 316 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: weeks away, which of these position groups should NFL teams 317 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: be most excited about in twenty eighteen? Besides quarterback? It's 318 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: a good question, you know, when you when you look 319 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: at the projective, you have to look. What you're really 320 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: looking at is the first round, and I think the 321 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: running back position, just for the sake of sae Quon Barkley. 322 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: This guy's a tremendous, tremendous athlete, and a lot of 323 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: people are of the mind of looking and saying, can 324 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: you get value in the second, third round? You can 325 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: in the running back position. But we can see with 326 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: the addition of Ezekiel Elliott what that meant. Obviously to 327 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. I think, say Quon Barkley is a 328 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: truly unique, excellent as that that could you know, could 329 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: be the first I could see a case where Cleveland 330 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: takes them with the first roverall pick the defensive side 331 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: of the ball. Of course, you're always looking for those 332 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: edge rushers h and that the kid Chubbed from North 333 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: Carolina State is one that comes to bind, so that 334 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: that position seems to be pretty good. I tell you 335 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: one that I was impressed with coming out of Combine 336 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: was the tight end position. You know, I thought the 337 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: tight ends were a very end and everybody's looking for 338 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: that good tight end. Everybody's looking for that that guy 339 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: that constructs not necessarily territory, but the fact that like 340 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: a Travis Kelsey in Kansas City, the impact Jimmy Graham 341 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: getting a nice big contract. There are a lot of 342 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: people are looking for that type of guy, and there 343 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: seems to be pretty good depth at that position. Last 344 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: thing for you, coach, the Chargers select at number seventeen. Overall, 345 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: you look at linebacker, defensive line, safety, those are all 346 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: positions that Chargers could bolster this offseason. We also hear 347 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: about the quarterback with Rivers at thirty six years old, 348 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: still playing at a high level, no signs of slowing 349 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: down really, but that's a narrative that's not going to 350 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: go away. What do you think this team should do 351 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: at number seventeen. I guess with the caveat that Mike 352 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 1: Williams in Forest Lamp. Essentially we're red shirts last year, 353 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: so you're going to get two quality offensive starters into 354 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: the fold that didn't really get to contribute in twenty seventeen. Yeah, 355 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: that's always a plus, you know. You really it's hard 356 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: to evaluate a draft until you get two three years 357 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: down the line. So when you have some players that 358 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, did not contribute a lot in the 359 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: first year, it's like getting the extra picks, you know, 360 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: and in seventeen a lot can happen. If the quarterbacks. 361 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: That's the interesting thing is if these quarterbacks end up 362 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: getting evaluated to where they do get pushed up earlier 363 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: in the draft, well that just pushes some other good 364 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: players back further into the draft. And if you're looking, 365 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: you're looking on the defensive side at you I have 366 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: no idea where these guys are going to go on 367 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: what level. But a guy, if you're looking at a cornerback, 368 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: maybe it's Mike Hues its Central Florida to get another 369 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: good defensive end in Marcus Davenport. There seems to be 370 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: some good defensive players Maurice Hurst defensive tackle on inside. 371 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: But there's some good offensive players in there you can 372 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: always augment the offensive line. Orlando Brown from Oklahoma Homa, 373 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: the Gunjy from Notre Dame seems to be one that's 374 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: ranked possibly top ten, that could get pushed back into 375 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: the second level with it. So there's gonna be a 376 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: lot of opportunities, and the Chargers going to should have 377 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: some good players push back to them, particularly if these 378 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: quarterbacks get evaluated into the top ten or fifteen. Well, coach, 379 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: I can't thank enough for your time today. Path to 380 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: the Draft It's on NFL Network. It starts Monday, three 381 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: pm Pacific. It's an appointment television. Coach. We look forward 382 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: to seeing you there and to hope to catch up 383 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: with you again. This all season sounds great. All in 384 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: the beautiful campus of UCLA here with great Mike Mayock. Mike, 385 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: this is an impressive facility here, a beautiful facility allowed 386 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: for Chip Kelly to work with. You have been back 387 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: to back. You're in Oklahoma yesterday, Ucla to day. What's 388 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: the best part of this process for you? It's typically 389 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: getting up close with the players, having an ability to 390 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: time them, watch them workout, interact with the players. And 391 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: then even more so, I've been doing this for a 392 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: lot of years. So these scouts are my buddies. We've 393 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: been traveling for a lot of years together, and I 394 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: get a chance to kind of compare notes with all 395 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: the NFL scouts and coaches. So we're taping this on 396 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: a Thursday at UCLA's Pro Day. What's the biggest difference 397 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: between the Combine and the Pro Day? It just seems 398 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: like there's more comfortability with the player. I think what 399 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: fans need to understand is that the Combine, when the 400 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: players finally work out on the field, which is what 401 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: they see on television, it's the fourth day the players 402 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: have been there. They've been up at five am and 403 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: their last interview ends close to eleven pm. They have 404 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: been poked and prided for every medical procedure, knowing the 405 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: man's psychologically tested. It's an exhausting day, and then on 406 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: day four they work out. I think when you go 407 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: to the Pro Day, you're sleeping in your own bed, 408 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: you're very comfortable, You're working out with your peers, your 409 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: coaches are around, and you feel it your best physically 410 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: because you haven't been beat down. So typically players run 411 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: a little faster, jump a little higher, feel a little 412 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: bit more comfortable and because of that they perform a 413 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: little better. So we got five guys that look to 414 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: be potential first round picks. Where you talk about the 415 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: two guys from UCLA and USC you got Baker Mayfield 416 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: who you saw yesterday, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen. What's the 417 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: biggest difference in terms of one to five? Is there 418 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: a big gap there or do you see these guys 419 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: kind of muddled together. I think what really happens with 420 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: NFL teams is teams are looking to eliminate players at 421 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: every position. At this point in the process. It's not 422 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: just who's the best, It's like, okay, who are we 423 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: not interested anymore to try to whittle the number down 424 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: at every single position. So when you look at the 425 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 1: top five or six quarterbacks, I'll just kind of give 426 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: you an overview of how teams are looking at it. 427 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: From my perspective, teams are looking at Lamar Jackson and saying, Okay, 428 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: there's going to be a smaller sample size that'll buy 429 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: into him philosophically because you got to change your whole offense. 430 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: But he's gonna win games with his legs before he 431 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: does with his arm, and say it's going to be 432 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: a learning process. Baker Mayfield is going to appeal to 433 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: some teams and not others, mostly because of the off 434 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: the field stuff. Okay, then you start to get into 435 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen here at UCLA. And my problem with Josh 436 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: Rosen is that he reminds me a lot of Sam 437 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: Bradford in that he's a beautiful natural thrower of the football, 438 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: but the combination of injuries and an inability to protect 439 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: himself in the pocket scares me. I don't know if 440 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: he can survive an NFL pocket And that kind of 441 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 1: brings me to what I have as the top two quarterbacks, 442 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: which are Sam Donald and Josh Allen. So from my perspective, 443 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: would I would be trying to eliminate names and get 444 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: to a certain point and then really drill down on 445 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: those guys. So that's what a lot of teams do 446 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: at this point. Yeah, And I look at Darnold and 447 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: he's got to eliminate turnovers. Is that fixable? I think 448 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: the fumbles are, and I think he's got to have 449 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: a better clue of situational awareness regarding the interceptions. And 450 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: then you look at Josh Challenge and you say, Okay, 451 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: he's as big as Carson Wentz. He's got the biggest 452 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: arm in the draft. He's like a Ben Roethlisberger as 453 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 1: far as arm strength and size and everything, but a 454 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: fifty seven percent completion guy in college. He's working hard 455 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 1: on his footwork and that's his biggest issue, his footwork. 456 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: That in the fact that he didn't have any talented receivers. 457 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: So that's a long answer to your question. But that's 458 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: kind of how I look at it, and I think 459 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: a lot of teams look at it, you know, stay 460 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: on quarterback. I think a lot of Chargers fans they 461 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: always ask the question, is this the year? Is this 462 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: the year we draft a quarterback? And at number seventeen overall, 463 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: you go on a variety of different directions. We'll get 464 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: into a couple of positions, linebacker, defensive line. But if 465 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: you don't draft a quarterback in the first round, like 466 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: is there a guy in the second or the third 467 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: round did you see as a potential starter down the line? Well, 468 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: I think you have to kind of look at what 469 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: the Patriots have done for the last seven or eight 470 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: years because of the uncertainty with Tom Brady, who's even 471 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: older than Philip obviously, sure you know, they've drafted three 472 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the last six or seven years in the 473 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: first three rounds, and they just lost Garoppolo obviously, So 474 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: I think you have to start drafting kind of top 475 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: hundred type of players, second or third round players if 476 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: you're not committing the seventeenth pick in the draft, So 477 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: you know who's of interest. Luke Falk is of interest. 478 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: I think there's a couple other guys that could be 479 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: of interest. But you know, for instance, for me, there's 480 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: a quarterback at Toledo that I really like Woodhead, but 481 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: I think he's more of a third, fourth round guy, 482 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: and I think he's a natural backup. But at some 483 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: point you kind of kind of bang the day of 484 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: whether it's Mike White, whether it's Luke Falks, you gotta 485 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: take a kid in the second or third round, because 486 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, what is Philip have left two good years? Three? 487 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: Probably it's a Rudolph. I mean, he's a guy that 488 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: I think you have in your top five, right, Yeah, 489 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: I got tied for five. Yeah. Do you think he's 490 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: a second round pick somebody that you could probably groom 491 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: for the next couple of years while Philip is still 492 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: doing his thing. Yeah, I do, and I'm happy you 493 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: brought him up because he's kind of a borderline one 494 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: two and I think he's gonna end up in the second. 495 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: And for a big, strong guy, he doesn't have a 496 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 1: big arm. He's got a very average arms, small hands. 497 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: I think he's a natural backup quarterback, but he throws 498 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: with some anticipation in timing, and some teams will view 499 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: him as a potential starter. All right, let's move to 500 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: a couple of defensive positions. Linebacker, defensive tackle. Obviously, the 501 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: Chargers had a great year defensively, but their bugaboo is 502 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: really stopping the run. You look at guys like Vita 503 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: Vea durn Payne from Alabama who had a good combine 504 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: and then Moe Hurst, who you know, he had that 505 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: unfortunate heart condition that was revealed to combine obviously a 506 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: good thing for him down the line. You look at 507 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: those three guys, where do you see them going in 508 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: the first round? Especially Hurst knowing his condition. Now, wow, 509 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: I think you know you prioritize run stopping, which is 510 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: one thing the league is prioritizing getting to the quarterback 511 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: from the defensive tackle position. So it really depends what 512 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: you're looking for if you're looking for a run stopping 513 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: defensive tackle, you can get them later. Okay, you know, 514 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: you know it doesn't have to be the first round, 515 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: but the guys that are going higher are the defensive 516 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: tackles can also push the pocket and affect the quarterback. 517 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: So you know, when you start talking about Vitavea, I 518 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: mean he's he's the prototypical nose tackle in a three four, 519 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: but he can play nose tackle on a four man front. 520 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 1: He's got some ability to push the pocket, but he's 521 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: not in all their sub packages. You've got to do 522 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: your homework on whether or not you believe he can 523 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: also get to the quarterback. You know, the kid from 524 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: Alabama is really good. I mean Payne I thought his 525 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: best footballs at the end of the year in the playoffs. Yeah, 526 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: he's as good offing defensive tackles or is in the draft. 527 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: Plus he can, he's quick enough, and I think has 528 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: some upside in the pass game. The guy you didn't 529 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: mention that's really rising right now is Tavin Bryan from 530 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: the University of Florida. Okay, I mean he's six five, 531 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: two ninety and you want to talk about a guy 532 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 1: that can affect both the run and pass games. He 533 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: went from kind of a second or third round curiosity 534 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 1: to a guy who I think is going to go 535 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: somewhere between fifteen and twenty five. I guess the question 536 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: is who's going to look best next to Joey Bosa 537 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: and Melvit airing Rom because you get obviously a one 538 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: two punch year one of the best pass rushing dudes 539 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: in the league. And you want that versatility, a guy 540 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: who can stop the run or also get to the passer. Yeah, well, 541 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: I mean the Alabama kid can do both, and so 542 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: can Taven Brian. I think Hurst from Michigan is more 543 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: of a quote three technique defensive tackle with quick upfield penetration, 544 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: not as stout against the run. Yeah, So it really 545 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: depends what you're looking for. And you know when I 546 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: think Harrison Phillips from Stanford is a guy you can 547 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: get in the second like him a lot that is 548 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: really good against the run and has a little more 549 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: juice in the past. And people think linebacker Tremaine Edmonds 550 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: seems to be a top ten lock at this point. 551 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: Roquan Smith from Georgia, Rashaun Evans from from Alabama, the 552 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: Chargers need a guy who can go sideline to sideline 553 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: also help stop the run. When you look at the 554 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: linebacking corps in this draft class, what stands out to 555 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: you as far as off the ball linebackers go. I 556 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: think Roquan Smith is just electric. I call them energy givers. 557 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: I mean they're out there just flying around and it 558 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: affects everybody around them. He goes sideline to sideline, he 559 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: comes downhill when he needs to, and he's good in 560 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: the pass game. Now, having said that, he's only my 561 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: second ranked off the ball linebacker because I think this 562 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: nineteen year old freak from Virginia Tech Edmonds unbelievable. Well, 563 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: I mean he's six four and a half two fifty five. 564 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: His measurables are crazy, and as an off the ball 565 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: linebacker he's special. However, he might even be more special 566 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: as an edge rusher. And I've talked to the people 567 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: that have worked him out and are trying to train 568 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: him as an edge guy. He is a natural edge rusher. 569 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: So if you draft him, you get off the ball 570 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: capabilities on first and second down, and you also get 571 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: some some joker potential in sub packages. And there's no 572 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: comp for him. I talked to Met Bowen at the 573 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: combine and he said, let's you're talking Brian or Lacker. 574 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: There's not really a comp for a freak like Edmunds. 575 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: I use the word unique on a conference call and 576 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: they said, well, you know, don't you have somebody? I said, no, 577 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: the definition of unique is there's only one of them. 578 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: I don't have a comp for him. I don't last 579 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: thing for you, Mike. I know you've been gracious enough 580 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: with your time. The two guys that the Chargers essentially 581 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: had to red shirt this year because of injury, Forest 582 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: Lamp and Mike Williams. These guys are going to come 583 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: into an offense that was humming last year, number one 584 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: passing offense in the league. What are they going to 585 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: bring to this Chargers offense? At twenty eighteen, I thought 586 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: Forrest Lamp was the best lineman in last year's draft, 587 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: not even close. His Alabama tape was just phenomenal. So 588 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: when he got hurt, I felt horribly not only for 589 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: him but for Philip Rivers. Yeah, because the whole key 590 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: to the Charger season from my perspective, is protecting Philip Rivers. 591 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: So there's no job more important and that's what he's 592 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: going to bring to the table, a little bit of 593 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: an attitude in the run game and an ability to 594 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: protect Philip in the past game, and then obviously to 595 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: help Philip outside with Mike Williams. You get a big, 596 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: physical wide out. You get those two kids back if 597 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: they're playing at a level that you're hoping they play at. 598 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: It's like getting two extra first round picks back. Yeah, 599 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: in the same season. Why can't think, you know, for 600 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: your time, really appreciate it? All right? Here was Sam 601 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: Farmer from UCLA Pro Day at the Wasserman Football Center 602 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: and Sam, I met you at UCLA Pro Day a 603 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: year ago. It feels like yesterday, and I was walking 604 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: around this campus trying to find out where this pro 605 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: day was going to be. I thought it was at 606 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: the same soccer field. This place is unbelievable. Yeah, it's spectacular. 607 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: We're in the literally in the shadow of the Washerman 608 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: Washerman Football Center. It's amazing. I think back to some 609 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: of the UCLA Pro days over the years, and how 610 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, UCLA was really sort of eclipsed by USC. 611 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: It used to be back to back now now they're 612 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: a week apart. Um. I remember some of those pro days, 613 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: like it's like two thousand and seven maybe when the 614 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: only player drafted out of UCLA was a kicker. Yeah, um, 615 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: and I swear I came out here and a guy 616 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: was running the forty in high tops. Serious a little bit, right. 617 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: It was that ranky dink and uh, you know, you'd 618 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: have people up here on the parking lot standing up 619 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: because these were the fields where they'd running. It wasn't 620 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: the artificial turf that is now and it's beautiful side 621 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: by side football fields, and so it's felt so small 622 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: time compared to those USC teams that had you know, 623 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: Matt Leiner and Reggie Bush and those linebackers and everything. 624 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: So it was this was like, uh, you know, this 625 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: was the opening band for all these scouts that come 626 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: through and it was a pretty rinky dinka fair, but 627 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: this today was It was huge. This place is gorgeous 628 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: and even even from last year. I think the headliner 629 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: last year was like Tech McKinley. I think he was 630 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: the headliner for UCLA having a shoulder. I think he 631 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: had had a shoulder end up going to Falcons. I 632 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: think it had a pretty good year at the Falcons. 633 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: But when you have a guy like Rosen, who's a 634 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: top five pick, arguably the top quarterback in this draft class. 635 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 1: This is a big deal. Mike Mayox here, ESPN's here, 636 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbecks here, What did you take away from this experience? 637 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: And then we just actually just heard from Josh Yeah, 638 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: I was. I was early impressed with Josh Rosen, very personable. Um, 639 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: you know, I was talking to Anthony Lynn coming off 640 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: the field and uh, just about well, you know, what 641 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: do you get from something like this. You've got a 642 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: mountain of tape on a guy, And he said, you 643 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: want to see the interactions. It's one more point of 644 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: contact with a player, but you want to see what 645 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:16,479 Speaker 1: happens sort of interacting with the receivers, coaches, you know, 646 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: doing what he's asked to do. Matt Hasselbeck I was 647 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: talking to him about it. He said, you know, Baker Mayfield, Uh, 648 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: he yelled at a receiver for running a route three 649 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: yards too shallow, you know prod. Yeah, do you take 650 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: that as a negative or do you take it as 651 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: a positive? Like Dan Marino would have yelled at his 652 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: receiver for running at too shallow. So it's all in 653 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: the eye of the beholder. But I get the feeling, 654 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: especially with Josh Rosen, they want to see what happens 655 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: in how he interacts with players, how he interacts with teammates, 656 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: how he takes instruction and seems to have passed with 657 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: flying colors. It looks like too, because the combine is 658 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: different when when you're throw into receivers you may not 659 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,719 Speaker 1: be familiar with, and you don't have the coaches around 660 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: that you grew up with throughout this program. Here it's 661 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: all your teammates, it's all your coaches, and I think 662 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: coach Lens right, It's just another layer to this draft 663 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: process where you can kind of see how he interacts 664 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: with everybody here and how that may translate to whatever 665 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: team he goes to him. Yeah, and I remember talking 666 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: to scouts during the season when I was doing a 667 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: story on comparing UCLA and usc players through the eyes 668 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: of NFL scouts in advance. It was an annual story 669 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: I do an advance of the USCCLA game, and the 670 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: big thing from them was with the experienced scouts who 671 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: were looking for a quarterback, their binoculars are going to 672 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: be trained on the sideline, not on you know, not 673 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: necessarily on him as a passer or what he can 674 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: do skills wise, but how he interacts what happens when 675 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: they're down, because he's sitting at the end of the 676 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: bench Is he writing in the middle of it? You know? 677 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: Scott Quisenberry the center was saying, you know, he was 678 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: the last guy at the vertical leap. He was the 679 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: last guy to leave the bench press, cheering everybody on. 680 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: That's what scouts want to see because so little things 681 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: make an investment like that. So much of it is 682 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: you know, what kind of guy is he? And that's 683 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: been an issue with Josh Rosen, so he needs to 684 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,439 Speaker 1: prove that. You know what, I think over the next 685 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: six weeks, there's gonna be a ton of speculation. I 686 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: talked to Mike Mayock about the five quarterbacks that we 687 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: think are going to go in the first round and 688 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: what order we think they're gonna go in. When you 689 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: look at these five quarterbacks, you got Alan with that 690 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: big arm, you got Rosen, who we just saw Sam 691 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: Darnolds Pro Day's next week, Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield. What 692 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: do you make of this draft class if you can 693 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: compare it to maybe some other ones in the past. 694 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: You know, I look at twenty twelve when we talked 695 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 1: about RG three and Luck and then you got and 696 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson going later obviously the eighty three class. How 697 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,479 Speaker 1: does this class stack up for you? You know, there's 698 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 1: been so much hype with this class that's built up 699 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: in the last couple of years, mostly from Los Angeles. 700 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: You know, with Darnold and Rosen. Is an amazing stat 701 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: that only once in history have quarterbacks from USC and 702 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: UCLA been selected in the same draft, and that was 703 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: with Troy Aikman and Rodney Peaton. I think Rodney peat 704 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: was a fifth or sixth round pick. So you know, 705 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: the thought that you'd have two LA players going in 706 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: the opening round, potentially in the top ten, it's pretty remarkable. 707 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 1: So you have to sort of separate the hype and 708 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: and now you have the dynamic of free agency with 709 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: all these teams getting what looked to be bridge quarterbacks, 710 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: guys who can sort of hang on, keep the seat 711 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: warm for a couple of years until you can bring 712 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: in a guy like a Josh Rosen or a Baker Mayfield. 713 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: And every deal except except Kirk Cousins, feels like it's 714 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: a bridge deal. I mean, I don't think any of 715 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: US is thinking that five years down the line, case 716 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: Keenum is going to be a quarterback of the Denver Broncos, 717 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: but he sent a two year deal. In Denver, we 718 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: had a two year deal. May maybe the case, but 719 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: it's unlikely. It looks like, you know, when we saw 720 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: John Elway out here today, we saw advanced Joseph. We 721 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: saw a lot of NFL personnel, well known coaches and personnels. 722 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: I think they said over one hundred NFL personnel we're here. 723 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: Is that right? Yeah? I believe it. And it's and 724 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: it's a quarterback driven league. And look, you know, everybody 725 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: wants to compare thirty five years ago we had the 726 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: class of nineteen eighty three and the greatest quarterback class. 727 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: He had six six quarterbacks go in the first round, 728 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: three of whom are Hall of famers now. So you know, 729 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: everybody's looking for that eighty three class. There was the 730 00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: ninety nine class when you had you know, Culpepper mcnapp 731 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: and Chilly Smith was a Tim Couch to Tim Couch. 732 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 1: Obviously that didn't measure up to the eighty three class. 733 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 1: Maybe new class ever will. But um I think people 734 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: look at this and say, you know, but again, it's 735 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: in the eye of the beholder. Somebody could fall John 736 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: Elway could fall in love with Baker Mayfield and say 737 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 1: that's my guy. Obviously, Josh Allen had a tremendous combine 738 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,959 Speaker 1: and he seems to be the guy which just takes yeah, 739 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: takes one team. One team falls in love and then 740 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: you got to you know, you might have a strange 741 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: situation where you know, Blaine Gabrielle go very high in 742 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: the draft and uh, and you didn't didn't anticipate that. 743 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: But it's that one team that falls in love. So 744 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: it's lots of bluffing, lots of liar's poker going on. Yeah, 745 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: quarterback talk. It's a good segue into free agency. As 746 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: you mentioned, Kirk Cousins got all that guaranteed money, a 747 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: lot of the bridge situations with Case keenom Sam Bradford 748 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: going to Arizona, mccount and Bridgewater going to the Jets, 749 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: all these trades that have happened before free agency. This 750 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: like the NFL's version of March Bandess what what was 751 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 1: the most surprising thing to you that's happened over the 752 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: week or last week or so well, I do have 753 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: to look at the Rams and what they've done. Um, 754 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: you know, getting those two cornerbacks who really could be 755 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: Nitro and Glyszer and he's built very combustible players. But 756 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: Chargers thinking the Rams both those guys out of the 757 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: AFC West. That's true. That is true, and that's you know, 758 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: um that that to me is an interesting, um thing. 759 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 1: I was surprised just how much money has been thrown around, 760 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: and uh, this is a much more now. There was 761 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: a lot of cap room that the teams had, particularly 762 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: team like the Browns, but there these are some big 763 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 1: money deals and I look at that Kirk Cousins deal, 764 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: which may or may not have been signed at this point, um, 765 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: and I think that's guaranteed money that could change the 766 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: dynamic of what players. I mean, if you're Aaron Rodgers, 767 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: uh coming down the pike, I mean you're gonna want 768 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 1: You're smiling right now money. Yeah. I think Matt Ryan's 769 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 1: up too, boy. Yeah, and that and that really, um, 770 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, you know what you're getting with the Matt Ryan. 771 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: You know what you're getting with an Aaron Rodgers. But 772 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: it puts a lot of pressure on personnel executives to 773 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: be right, teams to be right. If you're gonna guarantee 774 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 1: that money. It's a big enough risk that you got 775 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: the injury, but injury, you know, situation in football. But 776 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: to guarantee a whole ton of money is is a 777 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: bold give. Yeah, He's definitely a trend setter, yea, in 778 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: this in this new NFL Cleveland, Brown's doing a lot 779 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: of work here with Rod Taylor, Carlos High, Jarvis Land, 780 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: Jarvis Ry. I mean, that's a really that's a pretty 781 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: amazing thing. You know. Again, I think you look and 782 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: you still have the one and four pick and h 783 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: you know, I think you have to look at sae 784 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,919 Speaker 1: Quon Barkley and say, now, granted it's been twenty years 785 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: since running back first in the draft, but if you're 786 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: not in love with the quarterback in this draft, if 787 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: there's not one guy that you absolutely have to have, 788 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: why not take the running back number one and then 789 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: roll the dice on number four because you have if 790 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: you have two or three guys grated the same, yeah, 791 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: and you can live with one of them and say 792 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 1: this could be our franchise guy, why not take sorry 793 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 1: Sequon Barkley exactly exactly. I mean, it's somebody's gonna take him. 794 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: You know, Giants take him at two, or the Colts 795 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: take him at three. Somebody's gonna take him up in 796 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 1: the top five or trade up and get him because 797 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 1: he's that kind of player. So so again, if you 798 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: don't love, if you're not in love with one specific quarterback, 799 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,919 Speaker 1: take your chances. Sam. What do you make of the 800 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 1: AFC West? Now? I talked to a lot of people 801 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,399 Speaker 1: about this at the combine, just all these changes, and 802 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: you know, changes are happening in real time. I think 803 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 1: the Raiders just signed Jordy Nelson and release Michael Crabtree. 804 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,760 Speaker 1: You know, you have a you have a new coach 805 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: there in Oakland, all all the different changes in Denver, 806 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: in Kansas City obviously, um and then you get the 807 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 1: Chargers who haven't we're taping this on a Thursday. They 808 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: haven't done too much yet in free agency. But that's 809 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: almost the sign of a team that's got a lot 810 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,760 Speaker 1: of players coming back in twenty eighteen, you know, hopefully 811 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 1: ready to get into the playoffs. Yeah, I mean I 812 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 1: think that that. You look at the guard they drafted 813 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: last year, the receiver they drafted last year, and we 814 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: talked about this and it's almost like they're gonna have 815 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 1: three first round picks or yeah, first or second round picks, 816 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 1: you know, and uh, you know you do. Look you 817 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: look at Kansas City and all the changes they've made, 818 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: some very dramatic changes in Kansas City. Um, you know, 819 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 1: new coach in Oakland, but you know, interest some interesting changes. 820 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,280 Speaker 1: I don't see a huge huge change in the rest 821 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: of the HC West. Some interesting names tossed around, But 822 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: I think the Chargers are in a good position because, um, 823 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,839 Speaker 1: they don't have a pressing area of need. I mean 824 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 1: they could get a run stop, run stopper and you know, 825 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: defensive tackle to work into that rotation. Um, but you know, 826 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: you look at their defensive backfield. It's great, you know, 827 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 1: just getting Casey Hayward back in and resigning him well 828 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 1: deserved and you know, kudos to to getting him in 829 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: the fold here for the next few years as well. Absolutely, 830 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,399 Speaker 1: and Red getting healthy and you know, I think you're 831 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: uh and obviously that pass rush is phenomenal. And then 832 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 1: just having Philip Rivers, that that security blanket of having 833 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 1: a guy like Philip Rivers who still has time on 834 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: the back end of his career. Um, I think they're 835 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 1: in a very good position because all those changes doesn't 836 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: necessarily mean that they're improving their teams. And uh and 837 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: and I think I think we jumped the gun to 838 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: in free agency. Say you want your team to make 839 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 1: all these big splash moves on day one and day two, 840 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: and if they're not making those movies, you're like, oh, 841 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: what's going on? Well, look at teams like the Steelers 842 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: and the Patriots, and historically the Packers just model of consistency. 843 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,839 Speaker 1: They're consistently in the playoffs. They try to take care 844 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: of their own. You sprinkle in some needs, but you 845 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 1: don't see the perennial teams making big splashes on day 846 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 1: one and two. Yeah. I mean you spent a lot 847 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 1: of a lot of your time around the Redskins. Redskins 848 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 1: were the off season super Bowl Chap. I tell you what. 849 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 1: I tell you what I remember my art. So my 850 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 1: first year working in sports was I want to say 851 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,360 Speaker 1: it was two thousand and this was the Dion Sanders, 852 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: Mark Carrier, Jeff George Bruce Smith led Washington Redskins. And 853 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 1: that's that's when I think free agency. I don't know, 854 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,359 Speaker 1: I feel like that that's the team where you look at, 855 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: you know, like oh, best team money can buy. I 856 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 1: think they fired North Turn with two games to go, 857 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: put Verbiski in the last two games of the year. 858 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 1: I remember that team, and then the Eagles team from 859 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: like seven or maybe seven years ago when they got 860 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: Non Diawesome Wa and Vince Young. I think you can 861 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,839 Speaker 1: you can build the quote unquote dream team and then 862 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 1: you have uh, you know, Nick Foles go win the 863 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I mean it's it's these dream teams seldom 864 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: measure up to sort of the name value because there's 865 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 1: a reason why they're getting rid of these players. Teams 866 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 1: are getting rid of these players. They know something. They 867 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,399 Speaker 1: know this player brother than you know this player. If 868 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: this player has been shopped all around the league, Um, 869 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: there's something to that. And so so I think the 870 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 1: Chargers are in a pretty good position, um, you know, 871 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: standing pat to a large degree taking care of your guys, 872 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: which also sends up message in the locker room that 873 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 1: you're going to take care of the players, uh who 874 00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: who you've invested in exactly and um and again change 875 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: does not mean, uh that's gonna necessarily be an upward 876 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: pointing arrow. This is such a fun time. What do 877 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: the next six weeks look like for you, we got 878 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 1: free agency and the draft. What are you working on 879 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 1: at the LA Times and what can we expect? Yeah, 880 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 1: again all the the we're sort of it feels like 881 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: the storm fromouts have kind of passed with free agency 882 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 1: and trade, so now it's going to be the ramping 883 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 1: up to the draft, the owners meetings, which are always productive, 884 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: and then the draft in Dallas, which I think is 885 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 1: going to be excited. It's gonna be interesting, interesting to 886 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: see it in Dallas. I was just talking to to 887 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:46,359 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen's mom and they're gonna be there, and there 888 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: is Josh Rosen right there, and she was saying, yes, 889 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna be in Dallas, but our heads are gonna 890 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: be so swimming. You know that it could be on Mars. 891 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, where the draft is. And so that was odd. 892 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 1: I don't look right over. There's like this, there's like 893 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,719 Speaker 1: this thumb security thing. You put your thumb in open 894 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: the door, and Josh Rosen just put his thumb right 895 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: by hand to find Sam's head to get into the 896 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 1: watch him. I had this on a snapchat or something. 897 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: It's quite odd. Odd, but then you know, so that's 898 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: that's going on. And then uh, I always have fun 899 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,280 Speaker 1: in the summer too, Right before the NFL season starts 900 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 1: or training camp start, I go cover Wimbledon. Wimbledon, that's awesome. Yeah, 901 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 1: and then do the British Open after that, so it's tremendous. 902 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 1: That's a great three weeks. And and uh England or 903 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 1: in this case it's gonna be England in Scotland, it's 904 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,760 Speaker 1: gonna be Carnousti's gonna be the British Open. So that's 905 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: always a fun place to sort of clear my head, reboot, 906 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 1: get ready for the season, and and then dig into football. 907 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,360 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Well, hey, the next six weeks gonna be 908 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 1: a lot of fun, Sam, I can't think you know, 909 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 1: for your time, always a pleasure, and uh, I'll see 910 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 1: you some great scene boy, take care, and that's gonna 911 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 1: do it. My thanks to Sam, Mike Mayock, and coach 912 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,360 Speaker 1: Billick for joining me, and thanks to you all for listening. 913 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 1: Be sure to subscribe to Chargers Weekly on Apple Podcasts, 914 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 1: and please leave a review. Help spread the word this offseason. 915 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,840 Speaker 1: We'll be coming to you next week from USC's Pro Day. 916 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 1: Enjoy the weekend, and until then, I'm Chris Harry