1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Dear Latino USA listener. 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 2: Before we start, you should know that if you want 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 2: to listen to this episode ad free, just join Plus 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: and you can join for as little as seven dollars 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 2: a month. Joining also gets you behind the scenes access 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: and yes, some cheese may so click the link in 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: the episode description and after you do that, then click play. 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: Let's go to the show. 9 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 2: In March of this year, journalist Tom Yamas made history 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: when NBC announced that he would be the new anchor 11 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: of the nightly News. Tom became the first Latino ever 12 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: to anchor a major weekday evening news show in English. 13 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: So of course I had to sit down with him 14 00:00:58,720 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: before the year ended. 15 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: Gaso, Tom, hold a mania. How are you? Thanks for 16 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: having me? How you doing? I'm good? I'm busy like 17 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: you and getting through the holidays and juggling being a 18 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: dad and anchoring two shows and trying to cover the 19 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: news and a lot of breaking news and news that 20 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: changes every day, and a lot of news that it 21 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: involves our community and the regions of the world. Where 22 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: are people come from? 23 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: Every weekday, at six thirty pm Eastern Time, around six 24 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: million viewers across the country tune in to watch Tom 25 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: give them the latest national and international news. 26 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: That's nightly news for this Thursday. I'm Tom Yamas. Thanks 27 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: so much for watching tonight and always we're here for you. 28 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: Good Night. 29 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: Tom has been in broadcast journalism for more than twenty 30 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: five years. He's worked at a local Telemundo station in Miami. 31 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: He spent some time at ABC News, but for the 32 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: majority of his career he's been with the NBC family. 33 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: So take me back to when you get the call, 34 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: when it's like, Okay, it's really happening, and you're like, Okay, 35 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: my life is about to change. 36 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: It was a series of calls. Who's a series of conversations, 37 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: not just here it is, you got it? But I 38 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: think it was you know. Lester Holt had announced that 39 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: he was going to be stepping away. He was going 40 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: to focus full time on Dateline. I'll miss our evenings 41 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: together and I will miss the team that puts it 42 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: all together, my dear friends and my colleagues. 43 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: But for now Tom replaced Lester Holt, who is a 44 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: legend in his own right. Lester was the first black 45 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 2: solo anchor of a major evening news broadcast. 46 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: Lester has always been a friend and a mentor of mine, 47 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: and he had been here for about a decade, a 48 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: little more than a decade, so it was like the 49 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: end of an era. I'm honored, I'm humbled that that 50 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: NBC News turned to me and they offered me this job. 51 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: After several months, Tom is still taking it all in. 52 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: It was very emotional for me too, because it was 53 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: something sort of that I had dreamed of. Right, I 54 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: have a lot of mentors in this business who could 55 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: have done this job, who could have done this job 56 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: at any network, and the time just wasn't right for them. 57 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: It's been great so far. It's flown by. It's five 58 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: or six months. And when you say things like you know, 59 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: you're the first Latino to ever anchor a major evening 60 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: news broadcast in this country, Look, it is incredible, right, 61 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: But Maria, I gotta be honest with you. I haven't 62 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: spent a whole lot of time thinking about it because 63 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: I haven't had time, right, because every day you're out there, 64 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: you're grinding. You want to get the best show on, 65 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: you want to get the best stories out there, you 66 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: want to get the best bookings. There's so much more responsibility, 67 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: there's so much more pressure, but pressure is a privilege. 68 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: From futuro media. It's Latino Usa. 69 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:40,839 Speaker 1: I'm Maria Hosa. 70 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: Today I sit down with NBC Nightly News anchor tomm Yamas. 71 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: We talk about how his parents fleeing Cuba informs his 72 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: work as a journalist, and we discuss how he envisions 73 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: his role as anchor and managing editor at NBC covering 74 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: the second Trump administration. Okays, I just have to know 75 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: when you finally called those poppies and said, Okay, it's 76 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: it's happening and it's real, keep us all. 77 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 1: It was incredible. My parents are are very much helicopter 78 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: snowplow parents. I mean, my parents are very close. Snowplow 79 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: is even worse than helicopter snowplows. You want to plow 80 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: over all your kids problems. So helicopters you're on top 81 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: of everything. Snowplowers like you want to take care of 82 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: all their problems. They're not like that, but they're a 83 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: form of that. We're a very close family for my parents, 84 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: Me and my brother and our children are their world, 85 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: their grandkids and so and that's great, right, Like I'm 86 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: a proponent of family. It's the best thing in my life. 87 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: And so you know. When Lester announced that he was 88 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: stepping down, my parents immediately called me and I called, yeah, 89 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: my brother. My parents are blown up my phone and 90 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: I had I had nothing to tell them. I honestly didn't. 91 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: I had nothing to tell them, like I hadn't gotten 92 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: the job yet. I hadn't, they hadn't offered it to me, 93 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: but they were convinced. I was like, guys, you never 94 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: know where these things go. Don't start celebrating. It hasn't 95 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: happened yet. But once I could find tell them, I 96 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: told my wife first and then I called them and 97 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: just to say, like, this is happening, and this is 98 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: happening because of you. Growing up in an immigrant household, 99 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: my parents always were reading the newspaper, the Miami Herald, 100 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: cover to cover. We watched news in English and Spanish. 101 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: We were constantly talking about the news, whether it be 102 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: local politics, what was happening in Cuba. My parents are 103 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: Cuban refugees, if Fidel Castro was traveling somewhere, or if 104 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: he was going to sit down for an interview. These 105 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: were things that were discussed. I can remember all the 106 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: time in my house, and so you sort of had 107 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: to be very plugged in my house if you wanted 108 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: to have a part of the conversation. My dad's a dentist. 109 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: But they still loved current events. And I think part 110 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: of it was because they lost their country. Since they 111 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: lost their country, they were going to be very informed 112 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: about this country that gave them a second chance. 113 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: Were you that little kid that was like mommy Kiro said, 114 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: Pitty of the East, I one? Or were you like 115 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 2: playing football? When did it happen? 116 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: So it's funny because I have friends that were doing, like, 117 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: you know, the little newscasts. I was not doing that. 118 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: I mean I was watching the news and following the news. 119 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: And I went to a school called Blend, which is 120 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: a Jesuit school in Miami. It started in Havana. It 121 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: actually is a place where Field Castro went to school. 122 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: And then when he kicks out the Catholic priests, including 123 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: the Jesuits, they have to leave and they start from 124 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: new in Little Vana. And I went to the school. 125 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: It was a great school, and they taught civics and 126 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: they taught government, and these were things that you learned 127 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: every day. So in eighth grade, we had to read 128 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: the Miami Herald every day and we had to read 129 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: the op eds and so so I learned to sort 130 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,679 Speaker 1: of love reading the paper. And I took a writing 131 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: class my freshman year and Louis Guire, who is a 132 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: very prominent you know, local anchor and reporter in Miami. 133 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: He's gone national too. He's a great guy. He came, 134 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: he was an alumnus, and he came to the school 135 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: and he did a career day and he talked about 136 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: broadcast journalism and said, ah, I said, I love writing 137 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: and I really like current events. I'd never thought of 138 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: it as a profession because growing up in an immigrant household, 139 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: it's like doctor, businessman, lawyer. There's not like a lot 140 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: of like don't kind of like leave those up. But 141 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: my parents, you know, to their credit, they they thought 142 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: it was a good idea and they were into it 143 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: because I think they loved the news so much too. 144 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: And at that time, and you know, Maria, I was lust, 145 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: you know, and I really was. I grew up in 146 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: Miami at a time when Cuban Americans were thriving, so 147 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: you know, Telemundo and Univision had very good journalists that 148 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: were very well known. The network's headquarters were in Miami 149 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: as well, and then on top of that, you had 150 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: a lot of Cuban Americans who were making moves. Cuban 151 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: Americans are getting elected to Congress, They're becoming the mayors 152 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: of Miami. Like, so when I'm looking around as a 153 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: little boy, I'm seeing my parents' generation. They've struggled and 154 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: they've worked, and it's sort of coming to fruition now, right, 155 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: the fruit is growing off those trees. Even though if 156 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: you think about like all of Hollywood and all of music, right, 157 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: like we had Gloria Stefon, we had Andy Garcia, they 158 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: might have been just one, you know, solo people, and 159 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: they were unique in that regard. But I was like, oh, 160 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: they can do it, maybe I can do it. 161 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: You're the son of two Cuban refugees fleeing an island 162 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: because of the politics of the island, somebody like Fidel Castro, 163 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: who was incredibly polarizing. Can you talk a little bit 164 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: about how specifically that's affected you from the beginning? 165 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: And then now I think I have heard about media 166 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: bias since I was a child, because there would be 167 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: an interview with Castro, my parents immediately would give like 168 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: the post mortem right to the room because it was 169 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: usually like if Castro was doing a big sit down interview. 170 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,559 Speaker 1: It was sort of a family affair and like aunts 171 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: were over, grandparents were over, and I was going to 172 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: sit down and watch this to see what the news was. 173 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: And then afterwards, my parents, I can remember my dad 174 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: and my mom would weigh in and saying whether they 175 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: thought the journalist was biased, they were too easy, they 176 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: didn't ask the tough question, or if they were very tough, 177 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: if they did ask the tough questions, if they went 178 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: there fearlessly. And so from a very young age, I realized, 179 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: even though you're sitting down with somebody, you know, like 180 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: a Fidal Castro or a president or another leader or 181 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: a CEO or whomever, an athlete, you were asking those 182 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: questions on me, all the people that are watching right 183 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: you're there to get the truth, but you're actually working 184 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: for them. So I've reported out of Cuba. 185 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: I started going to Cuba as a student and then 186 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: as a journalist starting in the year nineth teen eighty one. 187 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: Oh okay, you can imagine. Yeah, but I'm wondering. 188 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: Then there's things that are happening in terms of American 189 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: journalists and this White House that are pretty extraordinary. I'm 190 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: just wondering how you're thinking about what the things that 191 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: you heard as a young person, about what was happening 192 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: under a Castro regime regarding journalists and repression clamping down 193 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: and living it now as a journalist here in the 194 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: United States. 195 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think, first, I just because of what 196 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: I do my job, and I think it's important because 197 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: we have the trust of the viewers. I'm not going 198 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: to sort of weigh in and give my opinion on 199 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: the administration. But no, but it's not opinion. It's right like, no, 200 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: I get it, I get it, I get it. But 201 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: let me finish first. I think what's happened in Cuba, 202 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: and you know this if you saw it up close, 203 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: and what is happening now in the United States. I 204 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: don't think you can make any kind of comparison whatsoever. 205 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: I just don't think it's fair to the people in 206 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: Cuba who have suffered the political prisoners, the people have 207 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: been killed, who have been murdered, who have been disappeared 208 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: all over Latin America. You know, I think journalists every 209 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: day are killed somewhere on this planet, especially in places 210 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: like Mexico. What journalists in other countries go through, we really. 211 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: I mean, we should always fight for our rights and 212 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: we always will and we're written into the Constitution and 213 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: we should never forget that. And thankfully, a place like 214 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: NBC News is a place that believes in that and 215 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: they will always back us up. And again, what's happening 216 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: at the Pentagon is something that we're dealing with. But 217 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: we're focused on the news. But what's happening in journalists 218 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: all over the world is it's horrific and it's nowhere 219 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: like what's happening here. Journalists are not disappearing here right, 220 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: Journalists are not being murdered by the government here. That 221 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: being said, there are laws and the administration has to 222 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: follow the laws, just like we have to follow the laws. 223 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: And when they don't follow the laws, that's when you 224 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: go to court. And that's what you're seeing right now 225 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: with the New York Times, and they're going to court 226 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: right now over what's happening at the Pentagon, and other 227 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: news organizations may choose to do that as well, and 228 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: we will let the courts decide. And that being said, 229 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: I'm focused on covering the news. I'm going to tell 230 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: people what's happening. I'm going to tell people exactly why 231 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: either we're there or not. There reasons why we're there, 232 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: and I think that's important to sort of peel back 233 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: the curtain. We're never ever going to try it up 234 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: hide anything, or sugarcoat anything, or be overly dramatic, because 235 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: for me, you got to be right down the middle. 236 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: You got to be tough, but you got to be fair. 237 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: And if you're tough on the Democrats, you gotta be 238 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: tough on the Republicans too. 239 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: Coming up on USA, Tom and I revisit a viral 240 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 2: moment that he had almost a decade ago when he 241 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: became the target of Donald Trump's now infamous insults. 242 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: It's part of the job. You got to be able 243 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: to take some of those hits, especially when you cover 244 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: the president. You gotta be ready for that. 245 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: Stay with us, Yes, Hey, we're back. And before the break, 246 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: I was speaking with NBC Nightly Use anchored Tom Yamas 247 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 2: about how his upbringing as the son of Cuban refugees 248 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: has informed his journalism work in the US. Now, we're 249 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: going to go back a few years to Donald Trump's 250 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: first candidacy, So let's jump back to the conversation. So 251 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to take you back to a place that 252 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: maybe you think about or maybe you don't. 253 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: Okay, it's twenty sixteen. 254 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: You were covering the presidential campaign for ABC at the time. 255 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: There was a news conference and you had an exchange 256 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: questioning Donald Trump about his fundraising practices. Can you just 257 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: set up the scene for us? 258 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: I believe it was maybe after the Iowa caucuses. I 259 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: don't remember exactly, but it was about donations to firefighters 260 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: in Iowa, and I think the president had opted not 261 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 1: to do a debate and something had happening. He held 262 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: a fundraiser instead, and then there was some reporting had 263 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: come out that the amount of money he said he 264 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: had raised or he had donated, he had not. And 265 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: it was my term for the questions, and I asked him, 266 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: you said you might raised six million dollars, Clearly you 267 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: had not. Your critics say you tend to exaggerate. 268 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 3: Is this a prime example? 269 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: And he answered the question, and then he went onto 270 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: the next reporter, and then he came back to me. 271 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 3: I'm not looking for credit, but what I don't want 272 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 3: is when I raised millions of dollars, have people say, 273 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 3: like this sleazy guy right over here from ABC, he's 274 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 3: a sleeze. 275 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: It's part of the job. You got to be able 276 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: to take some of those hits, especially when you cover 277 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: the president. You got to be ready for that. And 278 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: there's been several journalists who have had that experience, a 279 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: similar experience. Right. But here's the thing. You make a decision, 280 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: you make a choice. You can sit there and you 281 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: can dwell on that and you can be like, oh, 282 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: it's all about me, or you can say, Okay, that's it. Now, 283 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: let's get back to work and let's start covering the 284 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: news again, and let's figure this out. And the next 285 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: day I went back to work. I'm not saying what 286 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: he did was right, but I'm saying that it's just 287 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: something that comes sort of with the territory. 288 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: I understand that, and I understand, as you said before, 289 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: sometimes we're going to get bullied. But it is as 290 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: a journalist, particularly a unique situation where you have a 291 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 2: president that is constantly insulting as journalists, how do we 292 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 2: approach this moment. I'd love to know how you approach it. 293 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: I think you have to focus on the news. It's 294 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: not about us. I think you have to take care 295 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: of your people and when situations if they do get 296 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: dangerous or there's concerns. You have to take care of 297 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: your people, make sure they're okay and that they're protected. 298 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: I think everyone sort of did that in twenty sixteen, 299 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: and they do that moving forward. But listen, I mean, 300 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: we're not going to change anything. No one's going to 301 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: suddenly say, oh I'm sorry, I'm gonna start acting a 302 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: different way. That's not going to happen. So you've got 303 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: to cover the news. And it's life's about adversity, and 304 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: you've got to just do your job. And I think 305 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: if you do your job, yours always going to come 306 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: to you. You can't also fall into traps because as 307 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: soon as you fall into the trap and you make 308 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: it about yourself, I think you're going to lose a 309 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: portion of the audience. Number one and number two, what 310 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: are you finally doing? Are you an advocate now or 311 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: are you somebody who who is a journalist? 312 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: So we know, I know, even though we've never talked 313 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: about this, someone like Ramos, yeah is spoken unspoken mentor 314 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: yeah right, Jorge is no longer at a network. I 315 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: interviewed him with Baola, his daughter, who's also a journalist, 316 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: and I was very interested to hear what he had 317 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: to say regarding the position of journalists. 318 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 4: Sometimes if we are neutral, I think we might be 319 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 4: missing the story, and that's that's the problem. And I 320 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 4: think sometimes you have to take a stant just to 321 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 4: report both of size is not enough. I think neutrality 322 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 4: doesn't work nowadays. 323 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: When you hear someone who again has been a mentor 324 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: for you, Ramos now saying that you're twenty twenty five, 325 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, we can't be neutral as a journalist. 326 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: How do you respond to that? It's funny you say 327 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: that neutral, right, Neutral to me sounds like you're not moving. 328 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: And I would never say my journalism is neutral in 329 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: the sense that we're always trying to advance the story, 330 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: and we're always asking questions, and we're not just standing 331 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: by and getting a press release and regurgitating that's now doing. 332 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: We're covering the news right, and you're reporting what's happened. Okay, 333 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: a strike has happened in Venezuela. What has happened? Who 334 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: was killed? Is it legal? What are the Republicans saying? 335 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: What is the DoD saying? What are Democrats saying? Are 336 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: their hearings? You're informing viewers, and that's what our job is. 337 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: If you want to go and take a side, that's fine. 338 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: That's a great thing about America. You can go and 339 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: take a side. You can give your opinion. You can 340 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: be passionate. That's all beautiful. You could also be a 341 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: passionate reporter and not give your opinion. You can work 342 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: those sources and work the phones and get to the truth, 343 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: and you can be incredibly passionate. But it doesn't have 344 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: to be that you have to pick a side. I 345 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: don't agree with that, and I don't know if that's 346 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: what Horge was saying either. I'm never going to put 347 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: words in it. And he's a friend and he is 348 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: a mentor, and I've been on assignments to Venezuela with 349 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: the Cortete. He gave me my first tour of a newsroom. 350 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: I know hordhad very very well. In fact, I'll give 351 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: you a story which you may or may not know, Mary, 352 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: but I'll give you a story when Jorge was trying 353 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: to cover the Trump campaign, he came hot with a 354 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: question and the president kicked him out of the news conference. 355 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember this huge moment question. 356 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 4: Yes, In order to watch that question. 357 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 1: I was sitting there in a line of network news correspondents, 358 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: and it happened, and no one said anything, and they 359 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: asked the question, and then somebody else went they asked 360 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 1: the question with anything, and they came to me, and 361 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: now I said, you want to be president of the 362 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: United States. You just kicked out one of the most 363 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: prominent journalists in America? Is that presidential You're running. 364 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 3: For president and one of the part countries, the top journalist, 365 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 3: pain anchor innovation, was just escorted out of your news conference. 366 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: Do you handle that situation right? I don't know. 367 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know really much about him. 368 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 3: I don't believe I've ever met him except he started screaming, 369 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 3: and I would I didn't escort him out. 370 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: You'll have to talk to security. 371 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 3: Whoever security has escorted amount. 372 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: Why did I do that? One because I know what 373 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: hey is, I know his stature. Two, you just can't 374 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: do that in them. You can't kick journalists out in America. 375 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: And three as somebody who is his span and who 376 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: knew whoorhe was. I had to ask that question because 377 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: I know others did. Eventually somebody else did it afterwards. 378 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: But I just did it because I knew that was 379 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: the right thing to do, and that was the right 380 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: question to ask. It had nothing to do with like 381 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: bias being Latin or anything. It was just that's the 382 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: right question to ask. We'll be right back. Yes, Hey, 383 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: we're back. 384 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 2: I'm going to pick up my conversation with NBC Nightly 385 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: News anchor Tom Yamas. 386 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you a tough question. Go keep 387 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: them calling. I understand that you're trying to. You have to. 388 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: You're in a position where you're representing an entire network, 389 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: So I'm not trying to get having a gotcha moment. 390 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: But as Maria, besides that, and you can try to 391 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: have a gotcha moment. It's what I believe. I wouldn't 392 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: tell you this if I didn't believe it. I believe 393 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: in this journalism because I'm not going to turn away 394 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: viewers by losing their trust. It is not worth it 395 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: to me, It's not worth it to this network. There 396 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: are different types of journalism. I'm telling you what we're 397 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: doing taking to the truth. We're taking to the facts. 398 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: You want to call it down the middle, call what 399 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: you want, I wouldn't call it. I don't like the 400 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: word neutral because for me, neutrals. You're not moving, and 401 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: our teams are moving all over the world, and we're 402 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: in war zones and they're risking their lives and we're everywhere. 403 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: So I just you know, yeah, I appreciate that. I'll 404 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: have to ask about that. Okay, numbers, Okay, are there 405 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 2: two sides to children being held in cages? 406 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: Maria, Maria, there are always human rights. There is always 407 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: the constitution. Always when anything violates that right, When anything 408 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: violates that, of course it is wrong. Nobody's going to 409 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: dispute that right. I'm not No one's going to fight 410 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: for that ATTEMC news. If you violate human rights, if 411 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: you violate the constitution, that's news, and that's going to 412 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: be reported. I'm sorry it is. Yeah. 413 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 2: I'm wondering how because now you have a lot of 414 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 2: influence in the national news discourse, right, you have this 415 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 2: particular history, You understand the power of Latinos and Latinas. 416 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: How do you manage what's happening in the newsroom when 417 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: you're like balancing the national news but also knowing that 418 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 2: what's happening with Latinos and Latinas is kind. 419 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: Of like the story of the moment. I think I mean, 420 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: when you see the pictures and you see what's happening, 421 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: it rise to being newsworthy, and sometimes it rises to 422 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: being the third story in the newscast. Sometimes it's the 423 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: first story in the newscast, depending on what's happening. Right. 424 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: President Trump campaigned on this. He said this was going 425 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: to happen. Voters, by and large, they pick President Trump 426 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: for two reasons, the economy and immigration. That's what Paul 427 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: after Paul said, He's continued to say he's going to 428 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: do these things, and he's doing them. And now Americans 429 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: are looking at and having to live through the reality 430 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 1: of this, right, And we're there to tell that story, 431 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: and we're there to show those pictures, and we're there 432 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: to tell what's happening. I mean, just like anyone else. 433 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you're a human being and you don't want 434 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: to see anybody sort of put in any kind of 435 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: position like what's happening to them inside you can tell 436 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: is destroying them. Regardless of where you come from, that's 437 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: just being a huge whether it be the police using 438 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: excessive force, or whether it be another group using excessive force, 439 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: or whether it's a group attacking police officers or attacking 440 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: ice officers and breaking the law. We're there to document that, 441 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: we're there to report that. That's where we fit in. Now, 442 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: you want to go somewhere else, and you want to 443 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: get that passion, you want to get that heat, you 444 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: go for it. You have a million channels, a million 445 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: streamers to do that. But I got to tell you something. 446 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: People can talk about the news, and more and more 447 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: people are talking about the news. We report the news. 448 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: You've got to originate the content somewhere. That's our job. 449 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: Maria. The Latino and Latino vote helped to elect Donald Trump. 450 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 2: So I'm wondering as a journalist when you were picking 451 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: up on that and how you understand what happened with 452 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 2: the Latino specifically the Latino voter. As a journalist who 453 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 2: us out there? What were you picking up and why 454 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: do you see this happened? And are you seeing some 455 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: dips here in terms of Latino men and their support 456 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: for Donald Trump. 457 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: I think Latinos, just like all Americans that voted for 458 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, did it by and large because of the economy, 459 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: I mean, affordability, and they were voting their pocketbooks. I 460 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: don't think there's a monolithic Latino vote like there's not. 461 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: I mean, we're very different from different parts of Central 462 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: South America, the Caribbean. We live in different parts of 463 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: the country. There is not a Latino leader that we 464 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: all follow and bow down to. That just does not 465 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: happen in America. We do love bad Bunny. I mean 466 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: we love his music. That's about the same. 467 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: But Bunny, I mean he really has changed. I mean, 468 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 2: talk about somebody a Latino who has changed the international discourse. 469 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I'm an incredible artist and he has done 470 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: a lot the way. 471 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: Congratulations on your interview. 472 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great to talk to him. Was really 473 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: really important. This is much more than just a concert. 474 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: What did it mean to you? 475 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 3: Everything is the buzz experience that I ever had in 476 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 3: my life. 477 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: But getting back to your question, and I think Latino's 478 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: voted just like other Americans voted, And I think they 479 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: voted because they want better jobs, They want their daughter 480 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: to go further, they want to be able to pay 481 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: for their their kids college education, they want to be 482 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: able to buy a house, they want just whatever other 483 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: American wants. They want the American dream. And if President 484 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: Trump did a better job of selling that than Kamala 485 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: Harris did, then that's on him, and Latino's voted for him. 486 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: But I think you already saw a slight change and 487 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: it might be too early, but in the voting in 488 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: New Jersey and other parts of the country in that 489 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: election we just happened recently, and we'll see what happens 490 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: in the midterms. 491 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: So I know that you're not even one year in. Yeah, 492 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 2: but your legacy Tom, like when Okay, But I want 493 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 2: to make sure I leave this that this is what 494 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 2: Tom Yamas stood for. 495 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be my sign off, and it's a 496 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: come inment I made to the viewers, which is tonight 497 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: and always, We're here for you. And I think I 498 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: would ultimately want that to be any type of legacy, 499 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: even if I leave tomorrow. It's just that he was 500 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: there and he was working for us, and he asked 501 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: the tough questions and they did the stories that mattered. 502 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: And one of the first things I did was I 503 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: launched an investigative series called The Cost of Denial, and 504 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: it's people that are not that are getting denied by 505 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: their insurance companies, whether it be health insurance or housing insurance. 506 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: Because I was hearing about this from friends and family 507 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: all over the country. It's a huge issue. I'm very 508 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: proud of that. It's only been five months, but it's 509 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: been very, very rewarding in the sense that we've been 510 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: able to help so many Americans and we get hundreds 511 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: of emails every week, and it's like back to sort 512 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: of the roots of what I think journalism should be 513 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: and local news does very well, which is going out 514 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: there and fighting and doing and helping the viewer any 515 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: way that we can. And so yeah, that's going to 516 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: sort of be my north star going forward. Love it 517 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: it is. Tom. Thank you for making time. Yeah, Maria, 518 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: thank you, appreciate it. I'll see you around the block. No, 519 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: and let's call after this. Let's call Horny. I have 520 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: a couple of things to tell him. 521 00:24:52,920 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 2: Now I'm joking, I've actually seen bou tomorrow. That was 522 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 2: NBC Nightly News anchor and managing editor Tom Yamas. This 523 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 2: episode was produced by Renaldo Leanos Junior. It was edited 524 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 2: by Rebecca Ivarra. It was mixed by Via shan Amran. 525 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 2: Fernando Echavari is our managing editor. 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