1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: It's that time time time time. 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 2: Lucking load. 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: So Michael Verry Show is on the air. It's Charlie 4 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: from BlackBerry Smoke. I can feel a good one coming on. 5 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: It's the Micah Berry Show. 6 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 3: Any attempt to restrict drinking and driving here is viewed 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: by some as downright undemocratic. 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: Two six packs, Shinner ninety nine, sid putin Ladder, Lucky 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 2: Strack center, fifth of patrol us down, Eddie glue cooler. 10 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: Take a guess at all to do? I can feel 11 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: a good one coming on. Home throwing Rey Wiley Hubbard 12 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: sing alone, the red Neck and mother. Any blues I 13 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: had before or gone another working week is over, no 14 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: chest saying so I can feel a good one coming on. 15 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 4: In a week. 16 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: Now we're gonna get to feeling arin. We gonna keep 17 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: this pider rock can fil the break of doll. Yeah, 18 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: I can feel a good one coming all. 19 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 5: I just gotta getting calling it when the butter can 20 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 5: and I put in a hard day's work, put in 21 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 5: eleven foelve hours a day. 22 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: And they ain't getting you. 23 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: Truck and at least right one or two beards. 24 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: Here's three blocks in the wracks. I mustang followed us 25 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: down to the leaking. Didn't have to think about that 26 00:01:54,560 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: too long, skinny dipping in the pride and situation couldn't 27 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: be more Ride. I can feel a good one coming on, Yell. 28 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: We were gonna get to feeling ride. 29 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 6: Were gonna keep this party rock until the break of don. 30 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can feel a good one. Feel like a 31 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: good one. I can feel a good one coming on. 32 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 6: They're making it last where you can't drink when you 33 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 6: want to, can't. 34 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: You have to wear a seat belt when you're driving. 35 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: Chrisy will become Miss Caprey. 36 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 7: Woo. 37 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, we are alone. We're gonna get to feeling ride. 38 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: We're gonna keep this pot of rockettil the break. 39 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 7: Jason, you are on the Michael Berry Show, Jason, what 40 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 7: say you, sir? 41 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 8: I help companies get a grip on their assets. 42 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: By doing what. 43 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 8: Tracking inventorying assets using r f i D radio frequency 44 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 8: i D kind of like toll tags. 45 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: Do you own and do you own that company? I 46 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: do your company? 47 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 8: Started over well previously j p L r f I 48 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 8: D back when r f I D was kind of 49 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 8: the the buzzword, and as things went on and artificial 50 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 8: intelligence became the new big thing, it were turned into 51 00:03:54,840 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 8: assets and inventory. I know you typically love when the 52 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 8: company name tell us what we do and assets an 53 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 8: Inventsy book as that's an inventory. Dot Ai is our 54 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 8: new brand because A and I dot ai was an 55 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 8: available domain, so it's an I dot ai, Yes, sir. 56 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: Interesting, I went to school and I. 57 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 8: Didn't think yes, I was gonna say. I didn't think 58 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 8: much of it when you brought up the topic today, 59 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 8: except that I got an email that doctor Peter Style, 60 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:43,239 Speaker 8: the CEO of Houston Forensics, UH Forensics and the crime Lab, 61 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 8: is speaking nearby next week and we got an opportunity 62 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 8: to do a pilot project down there with the technology 63 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 8: to track evidence and other things in the crime lab. 64 00:04:59,320 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: Interesting. 65 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 7: I went to school with a guy named a Beezer 66 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 7: TBG really really really off the charts smart guy, and 67 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 7: he got into r He was the first person I 68 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 7: ever knew to get into r F I D. 69 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: And I went. 70 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 7: He has a company called Shipcom. I'm assuming he still hasn't. 71 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 7: I haven't talked to him in a couple of years. 72 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 7: We just get busy, you know how that goes. But 73 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 7: he had a company that UH that scanned that code 74 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 7: that r F I D or the the I guess 75 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 7: that barcode and and mind you, this was twenty five 76 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 7: years ago when that was very cutting edge, and he 77 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 7: would companies would hire him to to to control their inventory, 78 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 7: which is kind of what you're which sounds like. 79 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: What you're doing. That's a big that's a big business. 80 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 7: And now with the tracking and shipping and storing and 81 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 7: shelf life and and you know, replacing a product when 82 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 7: it goes off the shelf supply chain, it's interesting, Ramon. 83 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 7: I don't know if you know this, but I ask 84 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 7: people what they're studying or what they did study if 85 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 7: they're recent graduates, and especially coming out of A and M. 86 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 7: It feels like there's a staggeringly high number of people 87 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 7: who answer supply chain. There are college degrees in supply 88 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 7: chain now, and it's interesting and it makes sense because 89 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 7: it's such a big part of our economy that they 90 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 7: actually just broke down and created a degree. Now. 91 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what they're. 92 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 7: Teaching, but I approve of it because I think college 93 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 7: could stand to have more of a vocational approach, a 94 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 7: practical application approach. And I think for too long it's 95 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,679 Speaker 7: great to study English. I love the study of English. 96 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 7: I think that's important. It is great to study the classics. 97 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 7: All of those things are wonderful, but at some point 98 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 7: when you graduate, it would be nice if for over 99 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 7: one hundred thousand dollars you've just spent, you have some 100 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 7: skills that the workplace is waiting for, because most people 101 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 7: are not walking into a workplace today with a set 102 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 7: of skills they acquired in college that are monetizable for 103 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 7: a company. They're having to train people from ground zero. 104 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 7: And it shouldn't just be technical schools and vocational schools 105 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 7: that are teaching you. You know, if you go to 106 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 7: Brick Mason, Rio ought to be able to walk out 107 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 7: the first day and have the basics of that. Now, 108 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 7: you know, independent electrical contractors. One of our show sponsors 109 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 7: is is non union so merit Shop electrical contractors, and 110 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 7: they have a cooperative and they in addition to lobbying 111 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 7: for good laws for them and you know, getting better 112 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 7: insurance policies for their members and all that, they actually 113 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 7: have their own academy where they graduate kids. And they're 114 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 7: almost everyone taking advantage of this in Hispanic where they 115 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 7: graduate kids to go directly to feed directly into these companies. 116 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 7: So you have a job waiting which should be more 117 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 7: of a focus for all of these but in any case, 118 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 7: very interesting. 119 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: I am I don't like it. 120 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 9: No more like wing. 121 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: Be Michael, I'm not gay. No more. 122 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 7: Let me hurry because there's two bits of audio I 123 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 7: want to get in here. Tell you what's going on 124 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 7: in Texas. The governor has directed the Texas Rangers. This 125 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 7: is an elite law enforcement group here to conduct a 126 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 7: criminal investigation into a group called EPIC. It's the East 127 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 7: Plano Islamic Center. It's the latest in a series of 128 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 7: state led inquiries into a group that's trying to create 129 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 7: a Muslim centric community that has people very, very scared. 130 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 7: Credit NBC five News in Dallas Fort Worth. 131 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 10: With this story, we begin in Cullin and Hunt County. 132 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 10: This is where the community is voicing opposition to a 133 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 10: proposed development. The East Plano Islamic Center is a Muslim 134 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 10: center community that could be built in Josephine, Texas. Today, 135 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 10: the project's planners updated county leaders and residents on the 136 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,359 Speaker 10: idea that sparked controversy. 137 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: Maria Guerrero has more Welcome to the future of living. 138 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 11: The idea of this a Muslim centric community being built 139 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 11: on the outskirts of Colin County is what led to 140 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 11: an overflowing public hearing before Colin County Commissioners where many 141 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 11: rallied against Epic City. This is a Sharia compound, where 142 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 11: like the previous woman said, they will do the most 143 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 11: Sharia compliance. 144 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: This is not about one faith versus another. 145 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 12: This is about rejecting segregation in any form. 146 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 10: No group should ever have the power to claim an 147 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 10: entire neighborhood for themselves. 148 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: Why else would they want their own community? 149 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 2: What is the purpose of them having their own community? 150 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 11: East Plano Islamic Center posting its promotional Epic City video 151 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 11: on YouTube announcing its purchase of four hundred acres of 152 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 11: land straddling Colin and Hunt Counties, with a vision of 153 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 11: building about a thousand homes, a school, retail stores, all 154 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 11: centered around a new mosque. 155 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: The land has been accorded. 156 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 11: The project senior planner updating commissioners in anxious residents about 157 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 11: where the project stands, saying changes are being made and 158 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 11: developers have yet to begin the process with state water officials. 159 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 13: And so we do understand the density issue and we 160 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 13: are looking. 161 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 4: At the options to prepare an application for TCQ. 162 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 10: I'm worried it's going to become another municipal utility district. 163 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 11: Well, those directly affected by the possible addition worry about 164 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 11: water issues. Others claim housing discrimination, may. 165 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: Not refuse to rent or sell housing. 166 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 12: I hate that we have to have these kind of discussions. 167 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 12: I don't want to dislike anyone because of where they're from, 168 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 12: but their culture is so incongruent with what the United 169 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 12: States expects out of anyone who comes in as an immigrant. 170 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 11: Their opinions heard not just by the officials who will 171 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 11: ultimately decide, but by their own neighbors. 172 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: I felt like I was a part of the community. 173 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 7: EPIC was hosting the largest warming shelter in Colin County 174 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 7: just a few months ago during the Great Freeze, and now, well, 175 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 7: this place is back for people who don't along here. 176 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 11: When asked if they have a timeline as to when 177 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 11: they'll bring an actual plan forward to the county, representatives 178 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 11: said they do not, but they do anticipate it being 179 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 11: sometime this year in Collin County. Maria Guerrero NBC five. 180 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 10: The East Planet Islamic Center is facing several state investigations. Today, 181 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 10: Texas Governor Greg Abbott asks Texas DPS to launch an 182 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 10: investigation into the center. He did not cite specifics, but 183 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 10: ask DPS to focus on potential criminal law violations. The 184 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 10: group is also facing investigations from the Texas Workforce Commission 185 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 10: and Texas Funeral Service Commission. We're hoping to get reaction 186 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 10: from those operating the center, but have been unsuccessful to 187 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 10: this point. 188 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 7: All right, so I want to get this in so 189 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 7: you understand what we're talking about. Who these people are 190 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 7: before you go, oh my god, they're picking them because 191 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 7: they're Muslim. This is Yasir Kadi. He is their self 192 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 7: described resident scholar, and he well, here's what he has 193 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 7: to say. 194 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:05,359 Speaker 1: Oh Muslims. 195 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 9: Even though it is the final days of Ramadan and 196 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 9: it is a holy time for us, yet still the 197 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 9: world does not stop, regardless of what is happening in 198 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 9: our own circles. And we're all aware of the rise 199 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 9: of yet another wave of misinformation, another wave of Islamophobia, 200 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 9: another wave of xenophobia. For those of us that have 201 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 9: been in this land for the last thirty years, multiple 202 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 9: waves have happened, and every single wave we have seen 203 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 9: this reality and we have borne through it, and ahamdri la, 204 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 9: we have come out bigger, better, and stronger. This is 205 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 9: not going to be any different Al Muslim. There's a 206 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 9: lot of misinformation, a lot of negative campaigns about our faith, 207 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 9: about our message in particular. None of this is true. 208 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 9: And we thank a Llaw for all that we are doing. 209 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 9: We are grateful for the freedoms given to us in 210 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 9: this land and where we are taking advantage of our 211 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:00,599 Speaker 9: constitutional rights, not doing anything more than what the constitution 212 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 9: allows us. But we have to be clear here. We 213 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 9: have two choices ahead of us. Either we allow and 214 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 9: agree to be treated as second class citizens, we allow 215 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 9: lies and slander to be spread. We cower down, we 216 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 9: become scared, and we allow people to lie about us, 217 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 9: to spread slanders about us, and we accept second class citizenship. 218 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 9: And if we do this, they will continue to encroach 219 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 9: on our rights. They will continue to take more rights 220 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 9: away as we see what is happening across this country. 221 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 9: Or we stand up and we demand that we be 222 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 9: treated like every other faith community and every other ethnicity. 223 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 9: We are not demanding anything more than any other group, 224 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 9: but by God, we're not going to be treated any 225 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 9: different than any other group as well. We have to 226 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 9: have this attitude in our minds we cannot allow people 227 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,119 Speaker 9: to get away. We're treating us as second class citizens, 228 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 9: allowing us the lesser freedoms than anybody else. This is 229 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 9: not going to happen. We're not going to allow this 230 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 9: to happen. And this is something that goes against the 231 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 9: very spirit of the founding of this country, the very 232 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 9: constitution that is the document of this country. What makes 233 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 9: this country different, what makes this country in so many 234 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 9: ways really the most freest and the greatest country, is 235 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 9: the First Amendment and the Constitution that has been the 236 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 9: bedrock of this country. We are seeing though that that 237 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 9: Constitution is selectively being applied people based on different race, 238 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 9: different ethnicity, different skin color, different religion. But that is 239 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 9: not what the Constitution says. And so do not be 240 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 9: embarrassed of who you are. We are Muslims and we 241 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 9: have every right to live and practice our faith in 242 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 9: this country. We are not infringing on the rights of 243 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 9: other people. We are not taking away anything from what 244 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 9: the Constitution allows, and so we are doing what we're 245 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 9: allowed to do, and we will, in shah Allahutaialah, continue 246 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 9: to do so. And we're going to give more updates 247 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 9: and announcements in this regard as the as the month 248 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 9: comes to an nish allah data. But I wanted to 249 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 9: send a very clear message that almost Slims if what 250 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 9: is happening in Fellosleen is not going to inspire us 251 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 9: to understand that the world is changing, supanel law, what 252 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 9: is happening over there, This is all the parts of 253 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 9: the agenda now to criminalize and demonize our faith. They 254 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 9: want to make Islam look bad to justify what is 255 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 9: happening over there. They've done this before, twenty five years ago, 256 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 9: ten years ago. They're doing it again. But they failed 257 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 9: back then and they will fail again. When they stoop 258 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 9: down and preach hate, we will stand up and show 259 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 9: them love. When they stoop down and lie, we will 260 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 9: stand up and speak the truth. When they stoop down 261 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 9: and slander, we will stand up and show them dignity 262 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 9: and courage. They claim that they're following the prophets of 263 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 9: God and Jesus, but we are the true followers of Jesus. 264 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: And you're listening to the. 265 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 6: Because the flags is ends for freedom and they can't 266 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 6: take them all. 267 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: Right, America, here we go, America. 268 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, And I'm proud to be in Canada where it is. 269 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: Dyna quick what And I'm won't forget the. 270 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 6: Men who died Wait can I'm glad he's. 271 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 2: Putting next to you and it been. 272 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: He what what about? From Detroit down to Houston. 273 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 6: Guy very Blue down Wood, I love this last Godless 274 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 6: you Canada. 275 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 7: Lee Greenwood is actually a fan of our show and 276 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 7: a listener and a friend and a great guy, a 277 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 7: true patriot. Donald Trump loves Lee Greenwood and I do 278 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 7: too Cool cat he you know, look, it's like Billy 279 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 7: Ocean with Caribbean queen. He did an African. Mark Chestnut's 280 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 7: first version of Too Cold at Home had the kid 281 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 7: watching the Dodgers as he grew up, which was a 282 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 7: bummer because it should have been the Astros because Mark 283 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 7: Chestnut grew up watching the Astros, but that was what 284 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 7: the song was written at. They ended up making a 285 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 7: version with all the songs. Lee Grenwood's Loyalty is to 286 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 7: the United States of America. That song was never played 287 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 7: in the US. It was a moment of pride for 288 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 7: the Canadian people and he tailored the song to them. 289 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: And I'm not mad at him. I actually really like 290 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: Lee Grenwood. 291 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 7: It's just a funny thing. The first time you hear 292 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 7: it you know that song so well. In fact, in Houston, 293 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 7: they played at the rodeo every night. There's almost a 294 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 7: month long rodeo in Houston's the world's biggest, baddest, most 295 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 7: awesome rodeo. 296 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: And they play that song every year. 297 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 7: And when it gets to the from Detroit down to Houston, 298 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 7: the crowd roars. 299 00:18:58,760 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: And because it's in. 300 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 7: A football all stadium, NRG Stadium was just big where 301 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 7: the Texans play, the roar of that crowd it kind 302 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 7: of it rolls down. 303 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: It's a powerful thing to hear. 304 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 7: We're talking about Canada because Jason Stanley is a professor 305 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 7: at Yale University and a self proclaimed expert on fascism, 306 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 7: and he was a guest on MSNBC to confess that 307 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 7: he is broken. Trump has broken him. He is up 308 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 7: and moving to Canada. They never actually go, but maybe 309 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 7: he is. Maybe he was already going to go anyway 310 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 7: because his wife's got family there or something. But he's broken. 311 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 7: He's he's lost it. He's lost his mind. He can't 312 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 7: handle it anymore. He's gotta leave, He's got to. He's 313 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 7: the Paul Revere for Americans to tell us that fascism 314 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 7: is taken over. 315 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: Well, professor who studies fascism, is leaving the US mid 316 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 3: the Trump administration's cracked down on universities and colleges. Jason 317 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 3: stan Lee, author of How Fascism Works the Politics of US, 318 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 3: and then is departing the hallowed Ivy League School to 319 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 3: teach in Toronto, telling a philosophy website the reason is 320 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 3: quote entirely because of the political climate in the United States. 321 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 3: This comes as the Trump administration threatens to withhold funding 322 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 3: for pre eminent institutions like Columbia, which capitulated to the 323 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 3: administration over so called security reforms, and as grand students 324 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 3: from Colombia and Tufts are amongst scholars now detained by 325 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 3: immigration enforcement after their involvement in pro Palestinian protests or writings. 326 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 3: Professor and author Jason Stanley joins us now. Professor, thanks 327 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 3: for taking the time with us. You cited the current 328 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 3: political environment in this country as why you're leaving, why 329 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 3: you're heading to Canada. Is it impeding you from teaching 330 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 3: what and how you'd want to teach? 331 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 2: Oh? 332 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. 333 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 4: Yale has to this extent protected its scholars, unlike Columbia, 334 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 4: who forced, for example, Catherine frank A prominent law professor 335 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 4: into early retirement. So it has nothing to do with me. 336 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 4: It has everything to do with my children and my 337 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:10,719 Speaker 4: desire to send a warning to Americans that is consist 338 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 4: consonant with the work I've been doing. 339 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 7: And i want everyone to know that I'm leaving the 340 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 7: United States, and I want everyone to focus on me 341 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 7: because I'm leaving. 342 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to Canada, where they have everything socialized, and 343 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: I just want everybody to know. 344 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 7: I mean, I'm doing this for my children in my country, 345 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 7: and I want everyone to know it. What a wors 346 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 7: what a weaner, he says. The American people just don't 347 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 7: understand the details. Y'all think that what Trump is doing 348 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 7: is good, but it's not good. 349 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: I don't like it. 350 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 3: You talk about Columbia submitting to the White House's demands 351 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 3: after the threats to withhold federal funding. 352 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 2: I mean, some of what. 353 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: They agreed to are new rules for protests, more security 354 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 3: officers that can make arrest, new leadership to oversee certain 355 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 3: academic programs like Middle East studies. You called Columbia's capitulation 356 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 3: a warning, how. 357 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 4: So well, and Americans don't really understand some of the details. 358 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: They put the department. 359 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 4: Never before as the federal government intervened to put a 360 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 4: department into receivership, much less an excellent department like the 361 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 4: Department of Middle Eastern Studies. 362 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: At Columbia University. And it's not new leadership. 363 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 4: They're going to a point, perhaps a non academic. It's 364 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 4: someone who's obviously going to intervene. 365 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 7: And oh, my goodness, Ramon, not a non academic, Oh 366 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 7: my god, you mean they're not going to be a professor. 367 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: Oh, they will. 368 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 7: Not have submitted a thesis to a committee that will 369 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 7: have been reviewed by the dissertation committee. 370 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 1: Someone without a PhD. Someone is not a doctor. We'll 371 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: be making policy. But they're not a professor. They do 372 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: not profess. How can they do this? 373 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 7: This must not be allowed, continue my remarks, affairs. 374 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: They're very serious about this. 375 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 4: Receivership is only meant for when professors in a department 376 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 4: dislike each other so much they can't be in the 377 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 4: same room together. And needless to say, this crackdown. Colombia's 378 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 4: capitulation to this is a grave sign about the future 379 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 4: of academic freedom. In addition to say, hauling people off 380 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 4: the street and sending them to Louisiana prisons like they 381 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 4: did at Tufts University for co authoring op eds in 382 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 4: the student newspaper. 383 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: Oh, this is why he must leave. 384 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 7: But rest assured the fascism expert, probably on some federal 385 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 7: grant at Yale. He will still be battling the fascists, 386 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 7: the fascists, but he will do so from Canada. 387 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 3: There are probably people watching this right now thinking, well, 388 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 3: you have a lot to say. You are an American citizen. 389 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 3: Why not stay and try to be the change you're seeking? 390 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 3: Why not be part of the pushback to this sort 391 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 3: of behavior. 392 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 4: I will continue to throw punches against fascism and bullies 393 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 4: from Canada. 394 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 7: He's throwing punches. Everyone be careful because he's throwing punches. Okay, 395 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 7: he's throwing punches from Canada. He's he's repudiating and rebuffing you, 396 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 7: by which he means throwing punches, you see. 397 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: And he's he's a fighter. 398 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 7: Okay, when you have a fighter like this, a fighter 399 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 7: like this will throw punches from wherever he is now. 400 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 7: He's in retreat at the moment. He might take a sabbatical, 401 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 7: you know, but he's still going to fight fascism. He'll 402 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 7: be throwing punches at fascism from Afar. But punches they 403 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 7: will be. Make no mistake, they are punches Canada. 404 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 4: Don't worry. I have two black and Jewish kids. I 405 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 4: think my kids act they are more important to. 406 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: Me than anything else. 407 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 4: Uh So they're using my religion to to go after 408 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 4: academic freedom, crushing universities, supposedly in the name of protecting 409 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 4: my people. 410 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: Americ Jews. 411 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 4: American Jews, you reeve stop already, Stop already. 412 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: How annoying can you be? 413 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 7: Just go to Canada with a bunch of other people 414 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 7: just like you. 415 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: The Michael Berry Show, Michael Berry. 416 00:25:30,440 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 5: Showing my favorite programs of all time is Money, Python 417 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 5: or Python. 418 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 7: As we say on this side of the Atlantic, but 419 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 7: in England they say Python. And one of their segment 420 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 7: intros was entitled and Now for something completely different, and 421 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 7: it allowed them to pivot even though it's a variety show, 422 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 7: sketch show with sketch after sketch, it allowed them to pivot. 423 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 7: And I've always thought that was a great way to 424 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 7: do that here. I don't just want to talk politics 425 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 7: all day every day. Sometimes there are interesting things I 426 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 7: want to have conversations about. And Rush used to do this, 427 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 7: you know, Rush used to laugh and say that he 428 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 7: would get emails from people say stop talking about Steelers 429 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 7: and get back to talking about And his point was, 430 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 7: I've made that point, and I'll make it again next week. 431 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:42,959 Speaker 7: I want to talk about the Steelers. Now I want 432 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 7: to talk about golf. I want to talk about my jet. Well, 433 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 7: I don't play golf, I don't own a jet, and 434 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 7: I'm not a Steelers fan. But I am a music fan, 435 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 7: and so I get pitches for guests, and ninety nine 436 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 7: out of one hundred I have no interest in. But 437 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 7: this one caught my eye. It went like this. On 438 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 7: March twenty eight, nineteen sixty seven, Van Morrison recorded arguably 439 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 7: his most famous song, Brown Eyed Girl. Curiously, he never 440 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 7: really liked it, or so he says, it took him 441 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 7: to the top ten, made him a household name, and 442 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 7: gave us an enduring summer song. 443 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: He should love it right wrong. 444 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 7: Since becoming a paragon of the singer songwriter movement of 445 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 7: the seventies, Van has distanced himself from the song. And 446 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 7: then it goes into why that is? And I said, yes, 447 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 7: pr person, please get us on the phone with Scott Shay, 448 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 7: the author of that piece. His name is known in 449 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 7: the music business as the author of the best selling 450 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 7: book All the Leaves Are Brown, How the Mamas and 451 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 7: the Papas came together and broke apart. But now we're 452 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 7: going to talk about the song Brown Eyed Girl and 453 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 7: why Van Morrison didn't like it, because I'm interested to know. 454 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: Scott, Welcome to the. 455 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 7: Program, and start us off with why wouldn't Van Morrison 456 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 7: love a song that really made him a lot of 457 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 7: money and brought him a lot of fame. 458 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 13: It's a it's a good question, and it's nicely that 459 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 13: those pictures are affected. Thanks thanks to read that out loud. Yeah, 460 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 13: you know, I think Van is a is just a 461 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 13: born contrarian. You know. He likes things kind of raw 462 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 13: and authentic, and I think that was something written kind 463 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 13: of spur of the moment. I don't even know the 464 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 13: history of how he came to write that. I don't 465 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 13: think he's ever even really shared that, you know. 466 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: But let me interrupt you there. 467 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 7: Let's start with who we're talking about, because he has 468 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 7: always struck me as an odd bird, you know, living 469 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 7: up to the real kind of angry, reclusive you know. Hey, 470 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 7: but Van, you made a lot of money as well. Everything. 471 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 7: Everything I've read about him, which is a fair amount, 472 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 7: is that that he's not He's not a straightforward guy. 473 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 7: So let's start with we're not talking about you or 474 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 7: me or how most people would. 475 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 13: React, right, and you're and you're definitely not alone in 476 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 13: the vibe you get from Van. I think most everybody 477 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 13: gets that he is very anti commercial for a guy 478 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 13: who has huge commercial appeal, it's very odd, uh. And 479 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 13: he's not only did he write you know, Brown Eye Girl, 480 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 13: but he wrote Gloria, He's sang Here Comes the Night. 481 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 13: He had Domino and a bunch of other songs that 482 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 13: very commercial appeal and that people just love, and albums 483 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 13: filled with great songs. But he just, you know, on 484 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 13: one hand, he likes to be considered this authentic artist 485 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 13: who's not in it for the money. But on the 486 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 13: other hand, you know, he's got a bunch of houses 487 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 13: and a young model, beautiful life and enjoys the trappings 488 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 13: of his success. So it's it's quite a dichotomy there 489 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 13: with Van Morrison. And you know the reason he doesn't 490 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 13: like brown I think it just takes him back. And 491 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 13: you'll see, if you're your listeners who read the piece 492 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 13: I wrote on strange brudes, so are very very difficult 493 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 13: and stressful time in his life. 494 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 7: So my understanding, if I get this right, this was 495 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 7: about the time that I think this is right after 496 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 7: he has just signed a contract that like so many 497 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 7: of these guys, you know, they're busy eating a hamburger 498 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 7: and drinking a beer which he drank at that time, 499 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 7: in a contract in front of they signed their name 500 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 7: and then the rest of their careers. They complained about 501 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 7: this contract because they didn't bother to read it. Listen, 502 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 7: I'm a lawyer, you're an idiot. 503 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 14: But but is that Am I right on that timeframe? No, 504 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 14: you're exactly right. And those contracts, I mean when you're 505 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 14: in the position. You know, Van was in the position 506 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 14: of no leverage. I mean the group that he was 507 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 14: in before them was moderately successful. You know, they weren't 508 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 14: household names, but they had a couple of hits. But 509 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 14: he wasn't really in a position to leverage that and 510 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 14: even reject the contract. So, like a lot of artists, 511 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 14: I think he's just happy to get something where he 512 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 14: can put his the fruits of his labor out and 513 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,719 Speaker 14: his creativity. But you know, really doesn't have any leverage 514 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 14: against the fine print, and you know the abysmal royalty rates, 515 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 14: which back in those days was like you know, you know, 516 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 14: a penny on every dollar. 517 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: You know, it was crazy. 518 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 7: You see how much money is made on the cell 519 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 7: of a piece of music, whether it's cassette, album, CD 520 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,479 Speaker 7: or online, and how little of that ends up with 521 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 7: the person who wrote and especially if they wrote it 522 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 7: and performed it. 523 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: It really isn't shocked. 524 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 7: I mean, you see it all day because you write 525 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 7: about this, but for the average person, they can't imagine 526 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 7: this would happen. 527 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 13: And even the publishing I mean, guys like you know, 528 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 13: Brian Wilson and John Lennon, Paul McCartney got really wealthy 529 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 13: off the publishing, but they're only getting like ten percent 530 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 13: of it. 531 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 2: You know. 532 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 13: The rest of it goes to goes to the record 533 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,959 Speaker 13: company and the publishing company, which you know they have 534 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,959 Speaker 13: overhead and all that stuff that they have to deal with, 535 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 13: but they rack in a pretty profit off of that stuff. 536 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 13: And you know, and you know, guys like McCartney and 537 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 13: all these others can buy you know, you know, big 538 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 13: mansions and houses just on that little slipper that they get. 539 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 13: And so you really are selling out to the man, 540 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 13: and I think that's really what over time, what Van 541 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 13: really resented. And I don't know how much control he had. 542 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 13: He's very private, so you don't really know what he's getting. 543 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 13: I would imagine because of the nature of his personality, 544 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 13: and he probably has a really good agent. He probably 545 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 13: gets I would say maybe maybe in the twenty percentile range, probably, 546 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 13: but that's usually about as maximum as it gets. 547 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 7: You wrote this piece for strange Brew, and I went 548 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 7: and looked, and I looked at some of your writing there, 549 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 7: and strange brew is a site. The best I can 550 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 7: tell is just you know, features on music and kind 551 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 7: of deep dives into music. And how many of these 552 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 7: pieces do you write a week? 553 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 13: I'd usually do two a month. 554 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 7: And is that I know you you've written the book? 555 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 7: Is that your full time job or what else do 556 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 7: you do? I'm interested in the professional. 557 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:14,479 Speaker 1: Side of this. 558 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 13: I am a producer at the Serious XM on the 559 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 13: Catholic channel. I produced the morning show right on That's cool. Yeah, 560 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 13: so a radio guy too. 561 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 7: Very interesting and this is just a side hustle, hobby 562 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 7: interest quirk. 563 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 13: I like it, yeah, kind of a side hustle that 564 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 13: I helpe eventually turns into the overwhelming hustle you know. 565 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, well that's how you do it right. It's like 566 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 7: the startup you are. I tell people all the time, 567 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 7: you are your own startup business and started up today, 568 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 7: right and take chances. 569 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 13: Like Johnny cashad Yeah, one piece of a time like 570 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 13: Johnny caship, but in my case piece means writing piece 571 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 13: and the only. 572 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: Difference is one piece of time. And it didn't cost 573 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: me a down. 574 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 7: This is going to cost you and cost you dearly 575 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 7: in your time over the years. Well, I wanted to 576 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 7: I wanted to promote that. I wanted to tell people. 577 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: Where you are. 578 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 7: It's that strange. It's that strange brew. You can follow 579 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 7: him online. We're posting all that to our website as well. 580 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 7: Very interesting, my man. I did enjoy the piece. And 581 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 7: uh and and now you've added another quirk to to 582 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 7: what you do for a living an interesting life. Indeed, 583 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 7: thank you, Scott Shay, Thanks Michael. We do random interviews 584 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 7: about things we care about on occasion. 585 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: We're a variety show. That's that's hopefully you like it. 586 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,959 Speaker 7: Always love to hear from you, Michael Berryshow dot com. 587 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: Have a wonderful weekend. 588 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 14: To help us nice lot, we're doing it. 589 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: Thank you, I mean good night.