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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, This is Bryan Howard and welcome to The

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Speaker 1: Philly Show.

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Speaker 2: Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd Zolecki. It is Friday,

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Speaker 2: September twenty sixth, twenty twenty five. How is everybody? The

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Speaker 2: Phillies and Twins open a three game series on Friday

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Speaker 2: night at Citizens Bank Park. It's Aaron Nola against Joe Ryan.

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Speaker 2: The Phillies right now are almost locked into the number

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Speaker 2: two seed for the postseason. Would take a Philly sweep

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Speaker 2: and the Brewers getting swept for the a Phillies to

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Speaker 2: get the number one seed. But we've got a special

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Speaker 2: show for you today. We've got a very special guest

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Speaker 2: and let's talk about him. It's time for the park's

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Speaker 2: first pitch. First pitch is brought to us exclusively by

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Speaker 2: We've got somebody on the show today that you and

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Speaker 2: I I know for sure, have been wanting to have

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Speaker 2: for a long time, and that is Philly's legend Larry Boa.

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Speaker 2: Larry was the first manager I covered back in two

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Speaker 2: thousand and three. I did not know what that hell

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Speaker 2: I was doing, but you know, so I learned as

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Speaker 2: much as I possibly could from Larry Boa. I always

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Speaker 2: love talking to Larry Boa during the season, and he's

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Speaker 2: always around the ballpark in spring training, and I love

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Speaker 2: those little chats with him on the half field. I

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Speaker 2: know you feel the same way. You've had a long,

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Speaker 2: long relationship with Larry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was a baptism by fire for you

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Speaker 3: cover Larry ball because you know he can be a

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Speaker 3: little intimidating. He's got that you know, that resume and

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Speaker 3: that that personality. He don't pull no punches. If he

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Speaker 3: don't like one of your questions, he's gonna challenge it.

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Speaker 3: But one of my all time favorite people in baseball.

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Speaker 3: Love talking baseball with him, love talking life with him,

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Speaker 3: just love being around him, love his energy, love his wit.

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Speaker 3: And I go back to what ed Warde said on

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Speaker 3: our podcast five or six weeks ago and again on

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Speaker 3: the night he was enshrined on the Wall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: Ed Wade called Larry Bowa the smartest baseball man he's

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Speaker 3: ever met, ever been around. Smartest baseball man he knows.

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Speaker 3: I would concur I've learned a lot of baseball by

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Speaker 3: watching Larry coach manage and by talking to him. He

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Speaker 3: is a marvel. He's seventy nine years old, he looks

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Speaker 3: thirty nine. He's in great shape, still throws BP and

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Speaker 3: he is currently finishing up and when he's still in

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Speaker 3: uniform before games working with the infielders. Him and Bobby Dickerson,

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Speaker 3: the infield coach, have this great relationship and they work

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Speaker 3: with Bowman, Turner and Stott. And I mean he's out

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Speaker 3: there hitting ground balls, he's working with guys. He's he's chirping,

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Speaker 3: you know, like Larry getting under guys skin, motivating, and

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Speaker 3: that's the way he motivates. But this is his sixtieth

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Speaker 3: sixth zero year in professional baseball, forty one of them

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Speaker 3: with the Phillies, and that's coming to a close. And

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Speaker 3: you're right, we've been wanting to have Larry on for

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Speaker 3: a while, but we wanted to pick the right time,

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Speaker 3: right before the playoffs, because this team wants it bad,

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Speaker 3: the city wants it bad, and and Larry wants it bad.

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Speaker 3: He wants a championship bat. But he walked. He walked

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Speaker 3: the miles in the same spikes that these guys are

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Speaker 3: walking in. He was part of a young nucleus with

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Speaker 3: the Phillies, in the early seventies that came to Flower

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Speaker 3: and won divisions in seventy six, seventy seven, seventy eight,

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Speaker 3: couldn't get over the hump, finally get over the hump

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Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty and won a World Series. So you

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Speaker 3: can see some parallels with this team three straight trips

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Speaker 3: that the postseason has not gotten over the hump. So

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Speaker 3: I think it's an interesting week, interesting timing to talk

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Speaker 3: to Larry as the postseason gets set to begin next week.

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Speaker 3: And one of the things I want to ask him

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Speaker 3: about is how much he believed in this team, because

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Speaker 3: he really did in this twenty twenty five team, and

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Speaker 3: he really does and have an anecdote to kind of

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Speaker 3: prove that going back six or seven months. So I

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Speaker 3: can't wait to talk to him, and I'm sure we'll

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Speaker 3: have a few laughs, and I'm sure we'll learn a

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Speaker 3: little baseball because anytime you tap into that, you know

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Speaker 3: that that well, you come out of there drinking drinking

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Speaker 3: some knowledge.

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Speaker 4: Every time every time you talk to Larry, you learn something.

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Speaker 2: further ado, here is the legend himself, Larry Boa.

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Speaker 4: Larry, thanks for joining the show. You're joining it.

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Speaker 2: You're talking right now to a couple of your former

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Speaker 2: ball scribes that coveredy I mean, what a thrill for you, Larry.

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Speaker 1: Big time. I'm so excited about this. Uh. The last

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Speaker 1: memory I have of Jimmy was me getting ready to

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Speaker 1: throw him into a trash can. He was covering a

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Speaker 1: ball game. I'm just kidding, really, I remember it was.

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Speaker 1: It was one of those questions where I had to

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Speaker 1: scratch my head and I said to myself. I said, Jimmy,

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Speaker 1: trying to stir the pod a little bit.

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Speaker 3: So you know, that's how it was.

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Speaker 1: They don't do that anymore. You guys don't do that anymore.

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Speaker 3: Well, I remember the day in Fort Myers that you

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Speaker 3: were really mad and you threatened to pick me up

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Speaker 3: and throw me in the stands and we just kind

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Speaker 3: of laughed it off and we were fine. Today that

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Speaker 3: would be big news, but what this reporter i'd be.

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Speaker 1: I probably I'd probably get fired for doing that threatening,

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Speaker 1: threatening ascribe.

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Speaker 2: But I mean it was so we you know, obviously,

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Speaker 2: my first year on the beat was two thousand and three,

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Speaker 2: so I had I learned. I had to learn everything,

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Speaker 2: uh with you those those first couple of years.

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Speaker 4: And that was, uh, you know, I definitely learned a lot.

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Speaker 5: You know, I.

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Speaker 4: Didn't know what the hell I was doing.

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Speaker 1: Larry Jim sort of set the stage for all the writers.

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Speaker 1: You know. He would ask the questions and then step

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Speaker 1: back and get me going and everybody'd be happy. That's

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Speaker 1: how he did it.

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Speaker 3: I did. I did know how to push your buttons.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you did. That was fun though it

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Speaker 1: was fun. You wouldn't do that now though, because the

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Speaker 1: managers all have answers now, the analytics. This is the

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Speaker 1: reason I made this move. The analytics did this. Back

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Speaker 1: when we did it, there was a lot of second guessing.

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Speaker 1: Why didn't you bring the lefty in? What? What?

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Speaker 3: What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a game getting out of hand here,

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Speaker 1: you get a left you on a left you. That's

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Speaker 1: what you gotta do. Now, let's whatever the numbers say.

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Speaker 1: That's what we do. And it's a different game, there's

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Speaker 1: no question different.

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Speaker 3: You're your your head would have exploded with all these numbers.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have looked at the number. I looked at

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Speaker 1: them and just put it to the side. Here, you

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Speaker 1: got to go with your gut. You guys know that.

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Speaker 4: I mean.

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Speaker 1: And analytics are good. There's a lot of good analytics,

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Speaker 1: and there's no question about that. But there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff that's out there. And I'll give you a

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Speaker 1: great example. I'm watching this this last series with the Marlins,

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Speaker 1: and there they're pitching coaches calling every pitch and what

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Speaker 1: were there did three games? Twelve home runs? Uh?

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Speaker 4: I just think you gotta.

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Speaker 1: Let catchers read swings. You gotta let pitchers read swing.

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Speaker 1: And from the dugout, you don't know if a hitter

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Speaker 1: is moving close to the plate, backing up closer to

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Speaker 1: the mount, you don't know any You can't see that

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Speaker 1: from the dugout. But yet they think that calling pitches

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Speaker 1: is gonna gonna be the answer. It's gonna be interesting

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Speaker 1: how that plays out, because I think this is just

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Speaker 1: me if you have a veteran free agent, even though

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Speaker 1: the Mi's just say Miami has a lot of money

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Speaker 1: to throw around, which they don't, but if they did,

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Speaker 1: they might be a little leery going there with coaches

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Speaker 1: calling every pitch, and that I just that just might

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Speaker 1: get on that.

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Speaker 4: Well, you're all right, because think about like J. T.

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Speaker 2: Real Muto a free agent and again and say the

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Speaker 2: Marlins had the money to pony up.

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Speaker 3: You think JT.

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Speaker 2: Real Muto is gonna want to go to uh Miami

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Speaker 2: and not be able to call pitch. He's so good

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Speaker 2: at that, and he loves to read the swings, and

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Speaker 4: And all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: There's no question way that's why he's one of the

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Speaker 1: best catchers in baseball. You know, and these catchers they're

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Speaker 1: part of the maturation of a good catcher is being

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Speaker 1: able to read swings. Taking a look at their stance

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Speaker 1: you have a picture that's got a great breaking ball.

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Speaker 1: And this is we're going to do with this team.

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Speaker 1: We're going to attack this team with breaking balls. What

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Speaker 1: if he can't get it over that night. You got

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Speaker 1: to have a plan B. You got to have a

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Speaker 1: You know, I think that this is what we're going

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Speaker 1: to do tonight. Let's see if it works. But we'll

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Speaker 1: see what happens. I know our pitchers and our pitching coach,

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Speaker 1: they do a great job. And JT has a lot

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Speaker 1: to do with that. They're they're definitely ready every game.

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Speaker 1: They know what they want to do, they know how

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Speaker 1: they want to attack hitters. I really like, not only

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Speaker 1: our team, but I really like our coaching is that

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Speaker 1: we got a bunch of coaches that work hard. There's

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Speaker 2: Great coaching staff Larly Larry. Three games to go in

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Speaker 2: the regular season and postseason, beginning Game one of the

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Speaker 1: If we play the just we don't have to do

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Speaker 1: You're right, I mean, you don't want to get behind

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Speaker 1: early because the fan base is going to do just

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Speaker 1: like all fan bases do. Here we go again, we

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Speaker 1: do what we're supposed to do during the season, and

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Speaker 1: now the playoffs start. Personally, I would rather start on

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Speaker 1: the road and try to split wherever you're at and

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Speaker 1: then come home because whoever comes here, whether it's a done,

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Speaker 1: this is definitely an home field advantage this ballpark. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you this, this ballpark. If you're a young team,

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Speaker 1: just say Cincinnati gets in. They're in for an unbelievable

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Speaker 1: welcome when they come here because you got young kids.

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Speaker 1: They have no idea what to expect. But you know,

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Speaker 1: you got to hope that we get the momentum early.

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Speaker 1: If we can get the momentum early and do what

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Speaker 1: we're supposed to do, I don't see any issues here

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Speaker 1: with this baseball team. I really don't.

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Speaker 2: Larry rob Thompson has employed like three different platoons. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what he's gonna do in the postseason, and

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Speaker 2: he maybe he goes stot and so said second base,

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Speaker 2: but he's got the platoons and left and right, and

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Speaker 2: does it remind you a little bit of what form

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Speaker 2: he did in ninety three? And just do you see

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Speaker 2: the buy in from it, from these and you know what,

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Speaker 2: that's the big deal, the buy in the guys that

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Speaker 2: are doing it.

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Speaker 1: They got to buy in. You know, if you have

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Speaker 1: guys that say I don't want to do this and

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Speaker 1: that that. That team that Jimmy Forgosts he had, they

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Speaker 1: all bought in and they all played the way they're

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Speaker 1: supposed to play. I know Cassie's made a couple of

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Speaker 1: comments personally, if I had a player that wants to

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Speaker 1: play every day, I'd be happy with that. You want

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Speaker 1: your players that want to play every day. But Thoms

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Speaker 1: has done a great job the way he's handled it.

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Speaker 1: That's not an easy job when you have a real

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Speaker 1: good team. I think it's better to manage a team

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Speaker 1: where the expectations are they're there, but they're not like

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Speaker 1: they are with our ball club right now. That's why

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Speaker 1: I think Rob has done a great job with his team,

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Speaker 1: whether it be a giving guys rest, taking pictures out

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Speaker 1: when he's supposed to, bringing in certain flip pitchers, I

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Speaker 1: think he's done a tremendous job. And all those minor

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Speaker 1: league bus trips that he had and coaching under Joe Tory,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he learned a lot through his experiences there,

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Speaker 1: but I think he's done a tremendous job. When you

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Speaker 1: keep the ship afloat, I think that's very and Rob's

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Speaker 3: Is there a team that you wouldn't want to play

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Speaker 3: in the postseason? I don't care if.

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Speaker 1: Well, you got to look at the Dodgers right now,

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Speaker 1: Toni and Yamamoto the two pretty good arms right out

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Speaker 1: They just nothing great. They just do everything really good.

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Speaker 1: They move runners, they put the ball in play, they

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Speaker 5: You know, people don't talk about it during the regular season.

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Speaker 8: Obviously, the Milwaukee Brewers and there's some other teams that

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Speaker 9: On the home run. The Yankees rely on the home run.

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Speaker 1: No question, it's really hard, especially when you you go

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Speaker 1: the whole year you don't lay down any sacrifice buns,

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Speaker 1: you put a bunch sign on it, and of course

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Speaker 1: the commentators say, well, there's no way he's gonna bun.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't done in the last three years. Now you

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Speaker 1: expect him to lay down a bunt. That's why it's

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Speaker 1: important to do these little things before you get to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, because you can't give away outs. You can't

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Speaker 1: leave runners in scoring position at a rate that's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: You got a manufacture run sometimes, and Reuben, as you said,

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Speaker 1: there's not very many games. It's nine to eight. In

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, you got to win three to two, two

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Speaker 1: to one, whether it be a base, good base running

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Speaker 1: play with a guy stealing a bag, scoring from first,

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Speaker 1: good secondary leads. There's so many ways you can win

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Speaker 1: baseball games besides what we try to put in. These

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Speaker 1: guys heads, hit the ball in the seats, pitchers, strike

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Speaker 1: out everybody. The game is different. You don't start off

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Speaker 1: with a ghost runner now, so you're playing extra innings,

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Speaker 1: you should be able to move a runner. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying a guy like Harper or Schwarzer. There's certain guys

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Speaker 1: on a ball club that you got to lay down

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Speaker 1: a bunt, lay down the bunt. You got to push

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Speaker 1: a ball to second base right handed. You got to

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Speaker 1: do that. You got to give yourself up. These outs

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Speaker 1: are so important, and when you start giving them away

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Speaker 1: and not taking advantage of bases loaded one out and

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Speaker 1: you don't score a run that comes back and haunt you.

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Speaker 1: Believe me, the whole key to this, especially the first

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Speaker 1: three of these guys play, is momentum. You get a

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Speaker 1: little momentum going on your side. That's why I thought

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Speaker 1: when we played Arizona and all we had to do

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Speaker 1: is come home and win one game, I'd have bet

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Speaker 1: my everything I own that we're going to win one

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Speaker 1: game here. And you saw what happened they We played

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Speaker 1: a team that was hot. They pitched against us like

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Speaker 1: every hitter was Babe Ruth. We were swinging at everything

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Speaker 1: and they beat us and get back at that. You

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Speaker 1: how that happen?

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Speaker 8: The follow up question to that is so it begs

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Speaker 8: the question to me, if this those are the most

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Speaker 8: important games and the way to play at the most

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Speaker 8: important games, then why is it not stressed during the

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Speaker 8: course of the season and in the minor leagues throughout baseball?

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Speaker 8: And why have we gotten away from it?

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, it's unbelievable. I agree with you

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent on that we don't stress that. When

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Speaker 1: I say we, I'm talking about the industry. We don't

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Speaker 1: stress the little things during the course of the season.

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Speaker 1: But we expect these guys regardless of how much money

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Speaker 1: they're making. You better execute here, You better lay down

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Speaker 1: a bunch. When I put a hit and round, you

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Speaker 1: better put the ball on the ground. We don't stress that,

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Speaker 1: and we expect them. They're human. They go one hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty two games, they don't do any of that,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they say, oh, man, I

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Speaker 1: got a bum, I gotta lay this ball down, or

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Speaker 1: I got to hit the ball on the right side.

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Speaker 1: You can't expect those guys to do that. That's why

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Speaker 1: I think the minor leagues are especially low A. The

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Speaker 1: two low A teams or one's low A one's higher A.

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Speaker 1: Start getting those guys mindset into playing the game. You

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Speaker 1: can still use analytics. Analytics are important. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of good analytics, but teach them how to win baseball games.

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Speaker 1: When the games on the line, seventh, eighth, ninth inning.

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Speaker 1: It's not about hitting balls in the seats every night.

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Speaker 1: Those are great. Three run homers are the greatest thing

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Speaker 1: in the world, but they don't happen that much in

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Speaker 1: the in the playoffs, in the World Series. And when

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Speaker 1: you when it does happen, man, you feel like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we got this thing now. But you've got to be

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Speaker 1: able to execute other ways. Like you said, Ruben, make

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Speaker 1: a pitch when you have to. We need a ground

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Speaker 1: ball here, make a pitch. And I think if our

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Speaker 1: pitchers continue to do what they've done. We've done that

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Speaker 1: all year at a consistent level, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: a big strength for us right now moving into the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Is our starting pitching.

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Speaker 2: Larry, you mentioned Kyle Schwarber just a few minutes ago,

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Speaker 2: is one of the big big boys. I know you,

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Speaker 2: your good friend Charlie Manuel could talk baseball for if

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Speaker 2: you had like a baseball telethon, you could talk for

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Speaker 2: like seventy two hours straight. I feel like Kyle schwart

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Speaker 2: I've heard teammates say that Kyle Schwarber, that guy.

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Speaker 4: All he does is talk baseball.

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Speaker 2: One of your conversations with him been like, and what

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Speaker 2: what have you admired about him as a player and

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Speaker 2: his season?

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Speaker 1: First of all, he's really a humble dude. Man, hit

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Speaker 1: this guy. You know, I hit the four home runs

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Speaker 1: in one game and I went, man a nice going,

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Speaker 1: He goes, can you believe I didn't hit that position player?

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Speaker 1: He says, I was trying to hit one in the

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Speaker 1: upper deck and then he had it again the other

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Speaker 1: night and he popped one up too. So he's told me.

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Speaker 1: He says, I'm not going to be a very good

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Speaker 1: draft and slow pitch softball because I can't hit that stuff.

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Speaker 1: But Schwarves are great. He could play twenty years back.

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Speaker 1: He can play twenty years forward. He's accountable. If he

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Speaker 1: goes over for four and strikes out three times. Nobody

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Speaker 1: wants to talk to the media. He'll be front and center.

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Speaker 1: He'll go out there and say, you know what, I

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Speaker 1: stunk tonight, or we got to do this. He's a leader.

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Speaker 1: He's a big time leader in the clubhouse, and the

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Speaker 1: guys sort of gravitate to him. You walk in that

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Speaker 1: clubhouse or always talking baseball. He's just an old school

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Speaker 1: guy that he like. I said, he's very humble. I says, man,

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Speaker 1: I never seen guys hit balls like you. He goes, oh,

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Speaker 1: he says, I just as long as it goes over

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Speaker 1: the fence. And I said, you're eating balls in the

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Speaker 1: third deck. But he's so strong. I've never seen a

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Speaker 1: guy Schmidt. He was really strong bull. But his hands

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Speaker 1: are so strong. And but we need him to we

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Speaker 1: need him to do what he's done all year and

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Speaker 1: get those big hits. But he's again, it's not my money,

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Speaker 1: got I hope he has the pinstripes on for the

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Speaker 1: next three, four or five years because he's a big

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Speaker 1: asset to our organization. What's your prediction there on twur Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get in trouble, but I think

651
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Speaker 1: he's going to be winning pinstripes. That's just me, and

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Speaker 1: I know he likes it. Here. Is he going to

653
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Speaker 1: take the most money?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's played it out this far.

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Speaker 4: No one swore.

657
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Speaker 1: He wants to go where you've got a chance to win.

658
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: He wants to win. I think if somebody offered him

659
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Speaker 1: bookoo bucks for a team that's the second division teams

660
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Speaker 1: and another team that has a chance to get through

661
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: the World Series less money, he would go with a

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Speaker 1: team that has a chance to go to the World

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Speaker 1: Series to win.

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Speaker 3: We all kind of talked about this a number of times.

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Speaker 3: We all think he's going to be back because there's

666
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Speaker 3: impact from the batter's box to the clubhouse of the community,

667
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Speaker 3: and you know, with this ownership group, they ain't going

668
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Speaker 3: any rebuilds. They're going to keep trying to win and

669
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Speaker 3: win and win and you need that power and you

670
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Speaker 3: need that guy and if they do win, Larry. So,

671
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Speaker 3: they've had two World Series parades in this town and

672
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Speaker 3: Ruben has ridden in both of them, which is amazing

673
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Speaker 3: that and you've ridden in one of them.

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Speaker 1: One of them.

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Speaker 3: Tell us what do you remember about like a great

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Speaker 3: memory from that eighty parade and what you like for

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Speaker 3: these guys.

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Speaker 1: It's the greatest feeling in the world. I try to

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Speaker 1: tell these guys, you have no idea what it's like

680
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Speaker 1: getting on those flat beds or floats, whatever you want

681
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Speaker 1: to call them. In eighty. I mean literally, we see

682
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: tears of joy running down people's faces. They're saying, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I wish my mom was still a lie or I

684
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 1: wish my dad was alive to see this, because it

685
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: hasn't happened that much. And we've had some good teams here.

686
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Speaker 1: Ruben's team was really good, our team was really good.

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Speaker 1: The ninety three team was a good team. It's hard

688
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: to win everything. Everything's got to go right. And that's

689
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Speaker 1: why I think this year, the way it's played out

690
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: so far, we've overcome some adversity with guys getting hurt.

691
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Speaker 1: We've kept that that momentum going straight ahead. They have

692
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Speaker 1: no idea what it's like a parade down Broad Street,

693
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Speaker 1: and you know, you can talk to these guys and

694
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're going yeah, right right. It's the greatest

695
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: feeling in the world. And these fans when they get

696
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 1: behind you, it's unbelievable. Are they tough sometimes, no question,

697
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Speaker 1: But I think in the long run, when you do

698
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do and you play hard for them,

699
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: they're gonna come out and grows. Like you saw the

700
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Speaker 1: Eagle Parade and the Philly Parade, the Flyer Parade. Those

701
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Speaker 1: are things that are est in your mind forever and ever,

702
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: and I just hope they're able to you experience that,

703
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: because if they don't, there's going to be a big

704
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: void in their baseball career. Because this is a team

705
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,479
Speaker 1: that's capable of having a parade down Broad Street. There's

706
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: no question about that.

707
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Speaker 2: Just adds to somebody's legacy, you know, like Bryce Harper

708
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: needs that. You know he's going to make the Hall

709
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Speaker 2: of Fame, but it's a little extra to be able

710
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: to say, twenty twenty five World Series Champion, two time

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Speaker 2: nl MVP, whatever, five time All Star whatever.

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Speaker 1: He is Zachly. Yeah, those guys, those guys are they're

713
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: they're great players, but there will there You look back

714
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Speaker 1: at guys that never played in the World Series that

715
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Speaker 1: were great players, and you see read articles about that

716
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Speaker 1: and they say, man, I wish I could have gotten

717
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Speaker 1: into a World Series. That's the ultimate goal. I mean,

718
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Speaker 1: you from day one in February all the way till

719
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Speaker 1: if this thing goes to November and you're battling every

720
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Speaker 1: single day, you're just scrapping and you're tired, and then

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Speaker 1: you get through it, and then to have that last

722
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Speaker 1: out and be the last team standing since goosebumps up

723
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Speaker 1: and down your spine, there's no doubt about that. And

724
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Speaker 1: front office people putting teams together, they get frustrated. We

725
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: keep coming up short. And I'm sure that our ownership

726
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Speaker 1: group right now, as John Middleton said, I want that

727
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Speaker 1: my blah blah, that trophy back here. He wants that

728
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Speaker 1: trophy and I hope he gets it this year because

729
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Speaker 1: they've definitely the owners have gone way beyond the call

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Speaker 1: of duty as far as given the team what they

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Speaker 1: need to do, whether it be in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the season, whether whether it means what they did in

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Speaker 1: the off season, they've put the Phillies in a position

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Speaker 1: to be a world championship team.

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Speaker 2: Well, Larry, one last one for me, he kind of

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Speaker 2: touched on a little bit, is what do you think

737
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Speaker 2: of the additions they made at the trade deadline, specifically

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Speaker 2: Deron and Bader and how they've changed kind of the

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Speaker 2: calculus for this team.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable And I didn't really, I'll be honest with you.

741
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Speaker 1: I mean, I like Bader as a defensive player, I've

742
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Speaker 1: watched him, but I'll tell you what offensively he's done unbelievable.

743
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Speaker 1: And the way he covers ground out there and he

744
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: brings energy every night, and Duram, I mean, this guy's

745
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: lights out to have a closer like that, especially moving

746
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: forward here. You don't want traffic in the ninth in

747
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: and you want boom boom, get him out, let's get

748
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Speaker 1: out of here. And we got that right now. So

749
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: they've done a tremendous job in getting what we need.

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00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: Every year. It seemed like whatever the deficiency is in

751
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: our lineup, Dave goes out and fills that hole. You

752
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: can only do so much. Now the balls in the

753
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: player's court right now, they got to respond, and I

754
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: think you know, being around the clubhouse on home games.

755
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: It's a team. They got a lot of energy right now,

756
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: and they're getting close and they want to get this

757
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: thing going. And like I said, I expect some big

758
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Speaker 1: things here down the stretch.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, thanks Larry for the time.

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Speaker 1: Man, great al right, guys and Jimmy, Yes, sir, beat

762
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: the questions down now, get good questions. Don't make anybody mad.

763
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 1: Good chemistry going in the clubhouse. And you get somebody's

764
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: face with that mic every now and then, you get

765
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: a little carried away. So let's keep the boat nice

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Speaker 1: and even keel. Yeah, no tough questions for the players.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I'll try to be a whim.

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Speaker 1: Kid, you know, I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, it's you know, anytime I am

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Speaker 3: trying to chase him down this weekend, and Ryan, you know,

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Speaker 3: he's pulling for Schwarbur all the way. So that was

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Speaker 3: a very very enjoyable interview.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was great.

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Speaker 2: You know, he hit the fifty eighth home run against

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Speaker 2: Ricky Nalasko. You know, you remember that fifty home run game, Jim.

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Speaker 2: He hit three bombs off of Tim Hudson. You know

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Speaker 2: that was I mean, just just an incredible season by

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Speaker 2: It'd be interesting to see where Shwarbur ends up for

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Speaker 2: the nl MVP Award show. Hey, like we said earlier

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Speaker 2: But I you know, I think if there's people pay

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Speaker 2: close attention, Shoorbur should probably hit second. But yeah, Ryan

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