1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: It's always a joy here on the Official Jets Podcast 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: when we are joined by ESPN's Adam Schefter. Adam, so 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: great to see you down here at the league meetings 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: of Orlando, Florida. 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: Nice to see you, Eric, Nice to be with you again. 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: How is everything going for you progressing here this offseason? 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 3: Well, you don't have an offseason. 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: It never stops. 9 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 4: The league gets to be more and more relentless. I 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 4: think we're through the thicker free agency. That's a good thing. 11 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 4: Jets have made some moves and now I think it's 12 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 4: on to the draft for most people. 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: What do you make of some of those moves that 14 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: juts GM Joe Douglas has made. 15 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 4: They've added a lot of really compelling players, and I 16 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 4: think you could ask this question for almost all of them. 17 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 2: Can they and will they stay healthy? 18 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 4: And if you could tell me right now that all 19 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 4: these guys are gonna stay healthy this year, then they're 20 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 4: gonna have a great year of the Jets. 21 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: And if they can't stay healthy, they're not. 22 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: Would you have been surprised if I told it before 23 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: free agency started in the league year commenced that the 24 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: Jets were going to land John Simpson, then trade for 25 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: Morgan Moses and then get Tyron Smith at the end 26 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: of that, well, I would. 27 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 4: Have been surprised probably by those three names, but I 28 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 4: would not have been surprised at the effort and energy 29 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 4: and resources put into the offensive line. Look, we knew 30 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 4: that they were going to do something to beef up 31 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 4: the offensive line and improve. 32 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: It, right no matter what. 33 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 4: Now, it was just a combination or question of what 34 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 4: was going to be the combination that they were going 35 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 4: to go get. 36 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: And I didn't know that that would. 37 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 4: Be the trio Morgan Moses, Tyron Smith and John Simpson, 38 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 4: but that's what it turned out to be. And again, 39 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 4: if Tyron Smith is healthy and he hasn't been, that's 40 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 4: a great move. Morgan Moos has been pretty reliable and 41 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 4: John Simpson'll be reliable, but Tyron Smith, we don't know. 42 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 4: Mike Williams is coming off an acl you think he's 43 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 4: going to be healthy, but we still have to see 44 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers coming. 45 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: Off the corner of torn Achilles. 46 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 4: We think he's gonna be healthy, but you have to 47 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 4: wait and see, and so there's a lot of wait 48 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 4: and sees. 49 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: And while you wait and see, you won. 50 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 4: Well, if they're playing these guys have a chance to 51 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 4: be really good and really competitive, and if one or 52 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 4: two or three of them are not playing well, you 53 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 4: saw what happens last year when there's injuries, right. 54 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: Did you like the move picking up Mike Williams, the 55 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 1: guy who's been one of the best deep threats in 56 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: the National Football League when's been on the field. 57 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: When he's healthy, he's tremendous. 58 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 4: And I had a chance to speak to him Saturday 59 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 4: from my podcast, and he believes he's going to be 60 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 4: ready for opening Day. 61 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: He's excited about the idea. 62 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 4: He's still hadn't spoken to Aaron Rodgers on Saturday, so said, hey, 63 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 4: I still had his number, I would give it to you. 64 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 3: What do you make of his personality? He's so engaging, 65 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 3: isn't he? 66 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: My nice guy? 67 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, very nice guy, like I said, first time I 68 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 4: talked him at length like that, And he's excited about 69 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 4: the idea of being in New York. He loved his 70 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 4: ham and egg and cheese sandwich. 71 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: How about that. 72 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: He's looking forward to more of. 73 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 4: Them as we talked about the podcast, and he was 74 00:02:58,440 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 4: a very nice, engaging guy. 75 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: You'll like this. 76 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: I actually went to my local pizza place the other 77 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: day and then said, hey, why are you doing the 78 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: egg sandwiches? How about the pizza? 79 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? 80 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of different things you could do. 81 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, no doubt about it. 82 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: You know you want to come to New York, You're 83 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: not going to lack for good food. Yeah, that's true. 84 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: New York and New Jersey. 85 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 4: I include New York metropolitan area. 86 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: I want to be very clear. 87 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: Of course Long Island the city I mean in New Jersey. Yeah, 88 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: everybody's included Aaron Rodgers, like you said, forty you're gonna 89 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: enter a season when he's going to be forty one 90 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: in December. It feels much differently being here at lead 91 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: meetings than it did last spring because we were talking 92 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: about what's going to happen done. Yeah right, that was 93 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: the story. In fact, I remember true story. 94 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 4: I was checking into my hotel room at the Biltmore 95 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 4: in Arizona, and I was walking up the pathway to 96 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 4: get to the room with the Jets general manager Joe Douglas. 97 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: There you go, and who's coming right at us? 98 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 4: And we stop and talk but the Packers general manager 99 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 4: Brian Goodikins. Wow, there was the three of us. As 100 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 4: I was checking into the hotel and I thought, wow, 101 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 4: this is interesting. And obviously the deal got done, if 102 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 4: I remember correctly, two three weeks later, the trade got consummated. 103 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 2: Now, of course tray got consummated. 104 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: And. 105 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 4: It was obviously a huge deal. Obviously a different energy 106 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 4: around the whole thing. And now the question again, as 107 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 4: we've talked about, is can he stay healthy? 108 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: Can he be healthy? Will he be healthy? If he is, 109 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: he runs it on the field. We were there that night. 110 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 4: And it was unbelievable the energy in the building and 111 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 4: then boom, all that energy was sucked right out of 112 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 4: the building the moment he went down. 113 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: You've been to so many events, what was that night? 114 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: Like September eleventh, There aren't many that have. 115 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 4: Gone that high in emotion, infinished tele And I remember 116 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 4: at the end of the game. You know, I live 117 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 4: in the New York area and I have so many 118 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 4: friends who are Jet fans, diehardship, and they texted me 119 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 4: all excited. 120 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: That they won the game and overtime, and I'm. 121 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 4: Thinking, you don't get it. You won the battle and 122 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,119 Speaker 4: lost the war like it's over. 123 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: It's over. 124 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, you enjoyed tonight because there aren't going to be 125 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 4: many more happy nights in this season, and that was 126 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 4: how I felt that night, and I remember feeling that 127 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 4: as I went on the Late Sports Center with Scott 128 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 4: Van Pelt and getting the word that they believed it 129 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 4: was an achilles and obviously needed the test to confirm 130 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 4: that it was torn, which came back the next morning. 131 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 4: But it was surreal because when he ran out with 132 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 4: that flag on that day, with that energy, it was unbelievable. 133 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 4: And then minutes later he's down and you know that 134 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 4: it's serious, and you're like, man, so just a night 135 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 4: with incredible highs and lows. 136 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: He's always carried such a chip on his shoulder throughout 137 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: his career. What do you think the mentality of the 138 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: mindset's going to be like for him now this time? Right? 139 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 4: Eric, what I would say, I don't really care about 140 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 4: the chip, and the chip has helped him get to 141 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 4: where he is and be who he is, But the 142 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 4: fact of the matter is the chip isn't going to 143 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 4: I don't believe play a part in whether he can 144 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 4: stay on the field, and that's what they need him 145 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 4: to do. They need him to be on the field 146 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 4: and to be healthy, and if he can do that, 147 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 4: then everything's great, and you just want him out there. 148 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 4: You want to see what he can do with this 149 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 4: organization and these players in this offense. And if he 150 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 4: could do that, then that's great. The chip doesn't enter 151 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 4: into that in my mind. 152 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: That's Roberts. Sila is going to be addressed in the 153 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: media at the FC Coach's breakfast here Monday morning. He 154 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: actually talked earlier today and he said that it's been 155 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: a quiet offseason for the Jets. 156 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 2: Would you agree, So far, so good for them. 157 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 4: I mean again, last year, everybody was waiting for them 158 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 4: to trade for Aaron Rodgers, and so now Aaron Rodgers 159 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 4: is there. Now you're waiting to see how they shore 160 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 4: up the positions around Aaron Rodgers. 161 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: And they've done a good job with that. 162 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 4: But with all the respects signing John Simpson and trinding 163 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 4: for Morgan Moses their headlines absolutely, but they're not the 164 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 4: big splash. Oh my god, look what happened here the 165 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 4: way that landing Aaron Rodgers would be. 166 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: So they've done what they're supposed to do. 167 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 4: Joe Douglas has done a nice job adding the pieces 168 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 4: he should and again, can they all stay on the 169 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 4: field and stay healthy. 170 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's somebody so familiar with the deals all throughout 171 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: the league, no surprise. I would imagine the way he 172 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: structured these contracts with some of these guys incentives. 173 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, you know the reason for that, obviously. 174 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 4: I think Aaron Rodgers is the impetus for a lot 175 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 4: of that because they saw what he went through and 176 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 4: they don't want to bring in another veteran have him 177 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 4: go down for injury and be on the hook for 178 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 4: all that money. So the idea is, if they play, 179 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 4: and they play well, they're gonna earn what should be 180 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 4: their salaries. And if they don't play, the Jets have 181 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 4: a little bit of a built in cushion there to 182 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 4: protect themselves in the event that these guys don't play 183 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 4: the extended season. 184 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: That's the idea. 185 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 4: And by the way, well, if Aaron Rodgers is here, 186 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 4: isn't here, would they still be adding Tyron Smith? I 187 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 4: don't know. Would they be structuring his deal, Mike Williams 188 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 4: deal the way they are. 189 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. Would Mike Williams come with that Aaron 190 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: Rodgers probably not. 191 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 4: So, you know, it's all stemming from and off of 192 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers, his presence and what he's been through. 193 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: You're hoping he plays seventeen games and the Jets fans 194 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: I would love to see them want to see him 195 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: in the postseason for the first time in green and white. 196 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: What does the player trot thirteen years? 197 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: It's going back to twenty ten the Divisional playoffs, Divisional 198 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: playoffs time when they took down the Patriots Jillett's Stadium. 199 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 2: I remember that game. What do you think? 200 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: God bless you, sir? To Rod Taller. The reason why 201 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: I bring him into the conversation is you said it 202 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: was over after Aaron went down. Do you still like 203 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: the move if Rodgers does have to miss a couple 204 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: games whatever. 205 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: Well, I like Tyrod Taylor. 206 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 4: I think he's a good quarterback and he's never gotten 207 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 4: a fair shake and he's never been able to play 208 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 4: an extended season. I've always felt like he was capable 209 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 4: of doing really good things. But do I think that 210 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 4: Tyrod Taylor can get this team where it wants to go. 211 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: I wonder anybody would, but I don't know. 212 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 4: That he can get this team obviously, as far as 213 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers can. 214 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 2: I mean that just common sense. But Tyro Taylor is 215 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: a good quarterback, and. 216 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: That's a good veteran backup, pickup any news on the 217 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson front. You know, the Jets gave him and 218 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: his team permission to go out there and seek it. 219 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: Trade. 220 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 4: Well, you think at some point in the off season 221 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 4: they're going to move on from him, right, I mean 222 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 4: that seems to be a foregone conclusion. The question is 223 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 4: how and when that comes, and it just hasn't had yet. 224 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 4: And I think you know, there's money involved in there 225 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 4: that I think he's owed four point two million dollars 226 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 4: And we've seen other quarterbacks get traded this offseason. Mac 227 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 4: Jones win for a six and Justin Field's went for 228 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 4: a conditional six, and so I think you begin to 229 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 4: see where the market is and he hasn't really even 230 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 4: accomplished what some of those guys have. So it's just 231 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 4: really I think, you know, we'll see how it plays out. 232 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: We'll see how the draft plays out as well. Yeah, 233 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 1: what do you make of the changing landscape of the 234 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: FC East? The Bill's got to make some cost cut. 235 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: He moves Miami. I think you would say the same 236 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: category in New England in a period transition. 237 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 4: Well, the division's there if they again, Here's here's the 238 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 4: only thing that I would say to you, if all 239 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 4: these guys stay healthy, yep. 240 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: They have a chance to have a good season. 241 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 4: If they don't, it's not going to be the kind 242 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 4: of season that Jet fans want. If you can tell 243 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 4: me Aaron Rodgers is going to play a full year, 244 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 4: not miss any time or any extended time. If you 245 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 4: can tell me Tyron Smith's gonna play a full season 246 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 4: not missing any extended time. 247 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 2: Mike Williams, same thing. Sign me up, Sign everybody up. 248 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 4: They're gonna be good if some of those guys are missing, 249 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 4: all bets are off. 250 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: What are you most looking forward to here this week? 251 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 4: Oh, it's just nice to see people because you know, 252 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 4: I think in the world we live in, you know, 253 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 4: I work out of my home office so often you 254 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 4: don't come face to face very often with a lot 255 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 4: of people. So you have, you know, every organization well 256 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 4: represented here and it's nice to see some of the 257 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 4: people one final time because I may not see him 258 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 4: again until, you know, Yeah, maybe the summer training camp, maybe. 259 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: The drift camp. 260 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 1: You're gonna come to one Jets drive during the summer. 261 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: Right, We'll say, maybe, uh possible. 262 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 4: I never know, like if I'm gonna be out there 263 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 4: I would imagine there's a possibility I'll be out there 264 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 4: for a day. 265 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: We'll see. 266 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, we ought to put that on the table. Uh, 267 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: the draft positioning for the Jets. Tenth overall, what do 268 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: you make of where they're at after these first waves 269 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: of free agency. 270 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 4: Well, that's the great part about it, Eric, is that 271 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 4: they address so many needs that they don't have to 272 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 4: come away with anything. Yeah, I mean, in a way, 273 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 4: I don't mind the idea of Hey, if there's a 274 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 4: guy like a JJ McCarthy's still sitting there in Minnesota 275 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 4: or Denver or Las Vegas or somebody wants to come 276 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 4: up and they want to move up to the Jets 277 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 4: spot and the Jets get extra picks, like, nothing wrong 278 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 4: with that too, But they have options and if there's 279 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 4: somebody they love their attend, whether that's one of those 280 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 4: offensive linemen, which I still that's that would be my vote, 281 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 4: an offensive lineman still. 282 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: Rock Bowers, whoever it may be. 283 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 4: Whatever they want to do, they're gonna have some good 284 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 4: options and they've taken the pressure off them I think 285 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 4: by what they've done during free agency. 286 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: Oh, finally, it's a great transition by you. Of course. 287 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy you are a Michigan man. Yeah, yeah. What 288 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: do you make of him as an NFL prospect? And 289 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: what's the word right now about a month away from 290 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: the draft. 291 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 4: Well, I think if this is even possible, I think 292 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 4: his stock is rising, which I always laugh. He hasn't 293 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 4: played any games, but I think people have come around 294 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 4: on the fact that they recognize he's a really good 295 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 4: quarterback and he's He's a really positive, upbeat, energetic guy. 296 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 4: He's a guy you want to be around. I personally 297 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 4: like the young man, like he's engaging. He's a pretty 298 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 4: cool guy, and he's a pretty mature guy and he 299 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 4: gets it, I think, and I think other teams are 300 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 4: onto that. And I'm not a Johnny cum lately either. 301 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 4: My college buddies are are on a text chain. I 302 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 4: point this out before I'll point that out again. It's 303 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 4: not gonna be the last time. But our college buddies 304 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 4: were complaining, why is he coming out? I'm like, why 305 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 4: is he coming out? 306 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 2: Why do you think he's coming out of this? 307 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 4: He's gonna be a mid round pick. I'm like, mid 308 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 4: round pick, He's gonna be a first round pick. And 309 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 4: they said mid round picking me and a ten of 310 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 4: my college buddies, well, one of them. We bet dinner 311 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 4: for the entire group. I said JJ would be a one. 312 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 4: This was in December. The other guy said he would be. 313 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 4: I said, if he goes anywhere too or beyond, I 314 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 4: lose the bet and I buy this group dinner. 315 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: So we have a big dinner. How big you as 316 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: a group ten people? 317 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 4: You know it'll be you know, a nice place, not 318 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 4: a cheap dinner. Sure there'll be some drinking going on. 319 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 4: And I feel very confident and comfortable that JJ McCarthy 320 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 4: is going to be buying me and my friend's dinner 321 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 4: courtesy of I'm not going to expose his name. I 322 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 4: won't mention his name right here, but but yeah, one 323 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 4: of my college room mates. I expect us. I expect 324 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 4: him to be buying us dinner. 325 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: Great scening, brother, Eric, Thank you for having me. 326 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 4: I appreciate always a pleasure and continue to enjoy the 327 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 4: off season. 328 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 3: Thanks pleasing. 329 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: We're joining here on Official Jets Podcast by Tom Palissaro 330 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: NFL Networks. Tom Palissaro down in Orlando, Florida the annual 331 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: league meetings. You're brought out the pin strips today looking untackle. 332 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 5: I've learned through the years of this event that we're 333 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 5: in the dark suit generally ends up being a bad move. 334 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 5: Looked like it was gonna be really hot today, but 335 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 5: I was just out there and it's actually very windy, 336 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 5: so might not have mattered. But we're doing the Insiders 337 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 5: live one pm Eastern Time both Monday and Tuesday here 338 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 5: from the league meeting. 339 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: Got great guests lined up, So I don't want to be, 340 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 3: you know, s fitzing all over the place. 341 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: Nice plug. What should we what should we know about 342 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: league rule proposals and what's going to happen? 343 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 5: Well, they were debating them this morning to my knowledge, 344 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 5: check my phone real fast. 345 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 3: I've not yet voted. 346 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 5: You know, both the kickoff and the hip drop, the 347 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 5: swivel hip drop tackle are both. 348 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: Going to be debated. 349 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 5: And you know, the the hip drop is such a 350 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 5: priority for the league, and you've heard Roger Goodell say it, 351 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 5: Trey Vinson has said it, Rich McKay has said it. 352 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 5: Everybody wants it out. Nobody walks out of that room 353 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 5: going we want to keep that play in the game. 354 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 5: And so I think the one way or another. 355 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 3: That's going to get passed. 356 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 5: It's going to be a matter of you know, do 357 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 5: they feel like they can push it through here and 358 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 5: again that highly possible, that's what happens, But there's gonna 359 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 5: be enough questions raised. 360 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 3: Is the language consistent enough? 361 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 5: It doesn't song it's gonna be a big penalizing on 362 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 5: the field thing out of the gate. I bet you 363 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 5: see a bunch of flags and fins in the preseason 364 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 5: as they're just trying to correct technique. 365 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: You know, is it going to make a huge difference 366 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: in games? 367 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 5: I think that above all else, they just want to 368 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 5: make sure that nobody's teaching that style of tackling. It's 369 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 5: not a strategy with the kickoff, you know, that's another 370 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 5: one that the league has been pushing this for years. 371 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 5: But I think this will be the fourth time in 372 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 5: five years they've changed the kickoff rules. So just teams 373 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 5: coordinators have been you know, going round and round on this, 374 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 5: but they've been consulted throughout the process. Last year when 375 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 5: they made the legislation about the fair catch that we 376 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 5: did see and that was essentially like punishing the special 377 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 5: teams coordinators and the coaches like, hey, you didn't call 378 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 5: with anything better, so now it's just a dead play. Well, 379 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 5: they don't want a ceremonial dead play, as Troy Vincent 380 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 5: called it back in December. They wanted to have some excitement, 381 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 5: and so they're coming up with this new thing. They're 382 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 5: not calling it the XFL kickoff. It's the NFL hybrid kickoff. 383 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 5: You hear be in a setup zone at the forty 384 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 5: and the thirty five, and then there's a landing zone 385 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 5: where you need the ball to land, and then if 386 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,479 Speaker 5: you kick it past the landing zone then that's touchback. 387 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 5: Then now is going to come out to the thirty, 388 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 5: not the thirty five, which was what the original proposal was. 389 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 5: So this has been tweet YadA, YadA, YadA. It's gonna 390 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 5: lead to a play that what they want to do 391 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 5: is reduce the space and the speed because what they've 392 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 5: been charged with for the NFL is come up with 393 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 5: a way to make this an exciting play with lots 394 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 5: of returns, but also an injury rate we can stomach 395 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 5: because they. 396 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 3: Always cite that. 397 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 5: It's however, many X injuries on kickoffs versus any other play, 398 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 5: and so I think it's going to be fascinating to see. 399 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 5: I do think that that it's going to You're gonna 400 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 5: have fewer high speed collisions. That's going to you would think, 401 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 5: lead to fewer injuries over the course of time. But 402 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 5: there's definitely skepticism among some of the coaches I've talked 403 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 5: to here about what exactly this is going to look like. 404 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 5: I mean, I had one head coach telling me yesterday 405 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 5: his concern is, you're gonna have too many big plays 406 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 5: on kickoffs because goes imagine like we're playing cover zero 407 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 5: zero blitz. If you get through that initial hole, you're gone. Well, now, 408 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,479 Speaker 5: if you look at the drawings, the renderings, that's what 409 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 5: it is is it's everybody's lined up here. 410 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 3: Well, if they all get blocked. 411 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 5: Up and you get through, the first thing is that 412 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 5: are you gonna have just a ton of kick return touchdowns? 413 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 5: Is that can overemphasize that part of the game strategically. 414 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 5: It's gonna be really interesting because again special teams coordinators, 415 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 5: every year they've got a new rule. This one, you know, 416 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 5: has the possibility to have maybe some unintended consequences, but 417 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 5: to the extent that the league wants an exciting play 418 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 5: that's not going to get people hurt, this is the 419 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 5: best idea they've come up with yet. 420 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: That's interesting how concerned is the league as far as 421 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: scoring being down over the less part of it too. 422 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 5: I mean, when you have I remember the exact numbers, 423 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 5: but I want to say it's been cut by like 424 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 5: three quarters the number of kick return yards or no 425 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 5: kick returns from the Super Bowl, and they attribute that 426 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 5: in part to field position, the lack of big plays. 427 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 5: You know, just it has changed the you know, it 428 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 5: has changed the fabrica of the game to a degree. 429 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 5: And there's a lot of other factors involved with it, 430 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 5: but this is definitely one of them where last year, 431 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 5: you know, everybody could stand up and you know, go 432 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 5: get a beer on a kickoff and you weren't going 433 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 5: to miss anything. That NFL doesn't want that. It's the 434 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 5: same reason we now have thirty eight yard extra points 435 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 5: because they looked at that and it was like, well, 436 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 5: these are being converted in ninety nine percent. Well as 437 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 5: some of the kickers have lost their jobs because of it, 438 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 5: you know, the fact that now they have to make 439 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 5: essentially a mid range field goal however many times in 440 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 5: the game. That's not really the NFL's concern. It's how 441 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 5: do you make every play worth watching? How do you 442 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 5: make every moment exciting? The kickoff last year was not 443 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 5: an exciting play. It was a dead play to a 444 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 5: large degree. I still have real questions about the on 445 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 5: side kick aspect, because there was talk among this best 446 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 5: teams coordinators about maybe allowing like slight overload formations like 447 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 5: six on one side, four on the other side, or 448 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 5: being able to motion someone. If you read the proposal, 449 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 5: that doesn't exist. It's still five and five. So the 450 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 5: onside kick, which has been virtually impossible, remains virtually impossible. 451 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 5: The Eagles, like they do every year, proposed the fourth 452 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 5: and twenty alternative to the on side kick. 453 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 3: It is not to this point gain traction. 454 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 5: Some people just think it's too gimmicky, it's too far afield, 455 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 5: you can't go that direction. But until they come up 456 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 5: with some way that when there's four minutes to go, 457 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 5: when you score a touchdown to get down two scores, 458 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 5: you have, you know, until you can create a way 459 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 5: to get back into the game, they have to continue 460 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 5: talking about these things because right now, you know, one 461 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 5: of the beauties of the NFL has been for years, 462 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 5: like there weren't a lot of deficits late in games 463 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 5: that were insurmountable because you did have you know, even 464 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 5: if it was a ten or fifteen percent recovery rate, 465 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 5: that's way better than the three percent or whatever it is. 466 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: Now. 467 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 3: Now it's like, all right, well, we know this isn't 468 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 3: going to work. 469 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 5: It's academic and it's again that's another dead play. So 470 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 5: that's one aspect I'm interested to see. Does that get changed, 471 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 5: does that get tabled for further discussion. We'll see on 472 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 5: the fourth and twenty thing. But the Eagles, like I said, 473 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 5: they propose it every single year and it hasn't got 474 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 5: anywhere yet. 475 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: All Right, fans as opposed to getting up and getting 476 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: that beer at the stadium, you might have to order 477 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: a beer. Have somebody they get you a. 478 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: Beer they have somewhere. 479 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, all right, So what do you think about 480 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: the jets of free agency to date? We've been through 481 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: multiple tiers. We talked to you in Indianapolis before. 482 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 5: How my predictions come out? I can't remember who I predicted. 483 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure he was wrong. 484 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: Well, I remember case Keno because you you know that 485 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: was your wild guys, right, that was definitely Wyron Taylor 486 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: kind of kind of in the same vein. 487 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 5: I'll get myself a half a point. I had the 488 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 5: right idea of how they would they would get on. 489 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 5: Who do I say for a receiver, So Mike. 490 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: Williams, I don't know if you had Mike Williams, you're 491 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 1: supposed to know this. 492 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 5: Yes, I know, I wrote it out real fast for it. 493 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 5: I remember doing it. I just don't remember what I wrote. 494 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to pull that up. 495 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 5: Okay, Well, anyway, Mike Williams, you know, a significant addition. 496 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 5: It's an incentive laden contract, and you know, if he 497 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 5: plays well it comes back from the ACL and produces, 498 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 5: It'll be very happy. Because Mike Williams when he's on, 499 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 5: I mean, he's a big, strong receiver that you have 500 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 5: on the perimeter. Just let you know exactly the type 501 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 5: of guy that Aaron Rodgers would like to have at 502 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 5: that position. So I thought that that was a significant edition. 503 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 5: The obviously, you know, wanted to address the offensive line. 504 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 5: You know that there were you know, based on the 505 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 5: number of signings on Monday, they were I'm sure Jets 506 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 5: fans were stressed out, like what's going on? And then 507 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 5: Joe Douglas went on that late night run where he 508 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 5: signed Tyrod and he signed John Simpson as well, and 509 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 5: traded for Morgan Moses and then you bring in Tyron Smith. 510 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 5: You know, you can't say they didn't try to address it. Listen, 511 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 5: Tyrons dealt with a lot of injuries. He's got a 512 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 5: bad knee, he doesn't practice a whole lot, but he 513 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 5: still is such a huge guy, like he can engulf 514 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 5: people if he's healthy. You know, you're probably going in 515 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 5: this not thinking, all right, we can get seventeen games 516 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 5: out of Tyron Smith, must playoffs, that's probably not realistic. 517 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 5: But can we get twelve fourteen games out of him 518 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 5: and then have him healthy at the end of the season. 519 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 3: That's really the focus. 520 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 5: I would imagine that they really manage his reps, you know, 521 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 5: do everything that they have to do to make sure 522 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 5: that he gets into the postseason. But you know, if 523 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 5: you have to win a pinch, play Morgan Moses over there, 524 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 5: or you have to I know they want to keep 525 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 5: Elijah Vera Tucker in one spot. I think he's gonna 526 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 5: be the right guard since it's the left guard. You know, 527 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 5: they've done a lot with that group, and I think 528 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 5: that's you know, that's significant when you think back to 529 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 5: what the primary issues were last year. Yes, he lose 530 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 5: the quarterback after four snaps, you probably don't have a 531 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 5: chance no matter what. But you really don't have a 532 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,959 Speaker 5: chance when you're playing thirteen or fourteen different offensive lineman 533 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 5: and your second, third, fourth quarterbacks. 534 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: These contracts have a lot of incentives. No surprise, I 535 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: would imagine from your perspective. But with that being said, 536 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: were you surprised what happened with Tyrone Smith? How the 537 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: market kind of Okay, nobody jumped early. 538 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 5: But Tyron took a cut last year. He was making 539 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 5: right around this same amount. I don't have it in 540 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 5: front of me, but I want, say to cut down 541 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 5: to like five million with upside. Just gave him what's 542 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 5: six point five with upside? So no, it's not a 543 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 5: huge shock, just because again, he's he's missed a lot 544 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 5: of time. I mean, he has his body's been through 545 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 5: a lot, and he's got that knee that he's always 546 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 5: got to manage. 547 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 3: But when he's on, when. 548 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 5: He's playing, he's still playing at a Pro Bowl type 549 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 5: of a level. 550 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 3: So you're just hoping that you can get him there. 551 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 5: You're hoping that you've given yourself enough options in terms of, 552 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 5: you know, if something does happen to them, how do 553 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 5: you rearrange everybody. There's still other offensive linemen out there, 554 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 5: but they got in terms of you know, just pure 555 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 5: left tackles, they got the best one out there. It's 556 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 5: it's merely a matter of how many games do you 557 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 5: get out of them? And those games in December and January. 558 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 5: I know they all count the same up until the playoffs, 559 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 5: but those are ultimately where you're going to you know, 560 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 5: make your hay. It's not in those games in September 561 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 5: and if they need to hold them back a little bit, 562 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,719 Speaker 5: they need to take some snaps off and whatever it is, 563 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 5: I would anticipate they'll do that. 564 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: Everybody emphasizes continuity along that offensive line. That's that's going 565 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: to have three new starters with day Forum mentioned Simpson, Moses, 566 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: Tyron Smith. How much does a healthy Aaron Rodgers help 567 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: those guys. 568 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 5: It's huge and Aarin you know, listen, him and Nathaniel 569 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 5: hacketd have a very special relationship. Those guys are going 570 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 5: to be you know, they're going to be in sync. 571 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 5: I think that if there was any lesson out of 572 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 5: on my board. Yeah, Ridley, tell them Ridley signs a 573 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 5: big contract, that they get a big contract. 574 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 3: But Fuaga listen, listen. 575 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 5: I think that the the cautionary thing if you saw 576 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 5: of those four snaps right, and it's extremely small sample size, 577 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 5: but Aaron gets hit on two of them last year, 578 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 5: the second one of Taris's achilles. I think that when 579 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 5: you've seen Aaron Rodgers at his best in his career, 580 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 5: yes he can extend plays, Yes he can do some 581 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,479 Speaker 5: unbelievable things on the run out of the pocket, but 582 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 5: he's forty years old and he probably needs to be 583 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 5: the Aaron Rodgers who's running. They're running the football, and 584 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 5: then it's the backside options and it's a boom getting 585 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 5: it out one step routes, smoke routs, slants, it's getting 586 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 5: the football out of his hands if you take a 587 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 5: lot of hits. And I'm sure he's doing a million 588 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 5: different things and things I've never even heard of to 589 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 5: get his body right for this season, but realistically, like 590 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 5: you need to get the ball out of your hands 591 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 5: more often. And I think that when you go back, 592 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 5: I get it. He's in a new place. He's always 593 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 5: played like you might not be able to play like 594 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 5: that all the time anymore. You have that tool in 595 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 5: your toolbox, you don't have to go to the toolbox 596 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 5: all the time. So what he can do to help 597 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 5: the offensive line is get the football out of his hands. 598 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 5: You not have to block forty true dropbacks every time 599 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 5: because a lot of the stuff, a lot of his 600 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 5: passing yard and stuff. If you go back to the Packers, 601 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 5: and this is something that you know, the Packers sort 602 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 5: of invented with Brett Favre in the nineties, was you 603 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 5: know this idea and you see it all over the 604 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 5: league now, which is you have these zone running plays 605 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 5: and on the back side of it, you have some 606 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 5: type of route built in and you see one on 607 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 5: one there, you like the route, you like the alignment, 608 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 5: you just chuck it out there. Aaron did that all 609 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 5: the time, which is why sometimes when it was Hey, 610 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 5: I threw the ball forty five times, why didn't you 611 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 5: run it more, It's like, well, yeah, half of those 612 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 5: were called run plays. And Hackett's entire offense was built 613 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 5: to give Rogers the authority at the line of scrubbers, 614 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 5: not to audible, not to change the play, but it 615 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 5: was he could have a bunch of different plays all 616 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 5: available to him at the line. 617 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 3: A lot of that's going to be built on the 618 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 3: Hey it's. 619 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 5: The three step drop, take a shot, it's one step round, 620 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 5: it's all these different things. That's what he's done really 621 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 5: well throughout the course of his career. That's what's going 622 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 5: to help keep him healthy, take the pressure off the 623 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 5: offensive line, elevate everybody around him, which is what the 624 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 5: Jets brought him in to do. 625 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: What do you make of the edge market out there 626 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: right now? Bright so Uff of course signs the Lucra 627 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: deal and free agency. I think a lot of people 628 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: were expecting that the Jets do have. Jermaine Johnson made 629 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: a huge seismic jump in the year two, John Franklin 630 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: Myers a versatile piece up there, Will McDonald. They took 631 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: fifteenth overall in last April's draft. They hosted j Davian 632 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: Clowney at the Complex last week. Jets fans are circling Clowney. 633 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: What do you think about the possibility there? 634 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 5: I mean, Clowney's been on you know, a series. I 635 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 5: think he's had a two year deal in there somewhere, 636 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,959 Speaker 5: but he's more or less play his whole career on 637 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 5: one year deals. And you know last year he came 638 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 5: off a strong season, so you would anticipate the market. 639 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 5: It's going to be a little bit richer for him 640 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 5: this year as he gets close to fifteen million. We'll see, 641 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 5: you know, there's probably gonna be a bunch of incentives 642 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 5: the one year get built into it, you know, I mean, 643 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 5: it could be something different, but at this stage in 644 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 5: his career is the number one picking what twenty fourteen? 645 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 5: He's probably better off just doing one year deals. 646 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 3: You never know. 647 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 5: I mean, you could do a longer one with him, 648 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 5: but he's shown the appetite to continue to go a 649 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 5: year to year throughout the course of his career. Here, 650 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 5: I think the fact that the Jets have invested what 651 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 5: they have in the defensive line probably gives them a 652 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 5: little bit more flexibility to wait and see whose prices 653 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 5: come down into the arrangement. Bryce Huff goes and gets 654 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 5: what eighteen nineteen million from the Eagles, Like, good for him, man, 655 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 5: I mean, they were getting offered like late round picks 656 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 5: for him in camp last year, and Joe wisely did 657 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 5: not take any of those those offers. But you know, 658 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 5: he's somebody who you know, grew into it and maybe 659 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 5: now with you know him not being there, maybe this 660 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 5: is where will McDonald you see him step in and 661 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 5: take on a bigger role. Obviously, Jermaine is just one 662 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 5: of the baddest dudes that you're going to see on 663 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 5: the field. Really, to John Franklin Myers, there'll be somebody 664 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 5: out there. There's enough pass rushers, there are veterans available. 665 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 5: Clowny at this point, you know, the top guy, but 666 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 5: you're also going to have to beat out the likes 667 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 5: of Baltimore to you know, trying to bring them back. 668 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, nine a half sex last year a career high 669 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: for Clowney. How about the flexibility maybe Joe Douglas has 670 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: right now entering the draft. He's got seven picks tenth overall. 671 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: What to see how the quarterbacks shake out at the 672 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: top of the draft. But after addressing the offensive line, 673 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,719 Speaker 1: even though you got to keep these guys healthy, we 674 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: know that some tankering on the defensive side of the ball, 675 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: but this still should be one of the top units 676 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. How do you think this 677 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: sets up for them as far as the draft is. 678 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 5: Concerned now, Well, I think that you've got enough of 679 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 5: a base built that you do have a lot of 680 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 5: different options, and you filled some of your needs offensive 681 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 5: linewise through free agency, and a trade you signed Mike Williams, 682 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 5: who you know, became available here. I think there's a 683 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 5: lot of different options there. I mean, you're not taking 684 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 5: a running back up that high. You've obviously you got 685 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 5: briefs and there's no running backs that are really you know, 686 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 5: you want to take up there. But you know, could 687 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 5: you take a running back in the second round. But 688 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 5: there's a bunch of good players, it's certainly a possibility, 689 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 5: you know. In terms of with their top pick, I 690 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 5: think that there's a lot of different directions that you 691 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 5: can go. I think that the fact that those top 692 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 5: picks probably be a lot of quarterbacks sets up well 693 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 5: for teams that don't need one to be taken one high. So, 694 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 5: you know, from the Jets' perspective here, I think that 695 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 5: they're in a good position. We were talking about them 696 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 5: last year, so are they going to win the Super Bowl? 697 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 5: It's largely the same group. It's a lot of the 698 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 5: same pieces here, so just I don't think you need 699 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 5: you know, big wave types of stuff. I think that 700 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 5: whether you draft a receiver, you draft another lineman, you 701 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 5: draft somebody on defense, I think there's a bunch of 702 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 5: different ways go get another good football player on a 703 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 5: pretty talented roster, and let's see what happens. 704 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: This is awesome. Let's end here. What do you think 705 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: about the message from Robert Salad this morning. I know 706 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: you were working sixteen respective tables, so you're not able 707 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: to take in each of these thirty minute sessions. But 708 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: something's stuck out to me when he said that you 709 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 1: don't win in an offseason. Winning is about winning games 710 00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: in the regular season. 711 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think that that's the lesson out 712 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 5: of last year. Right again, I don't know how much 713 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 5: you can read into anything that happened last year, because 714 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 5: you lost the guy who your entire offense was built 715 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 5: for after four snaps, and you had to play people 716 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 5: who weren't supposed to be playing, like Zach who was 717 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 5: supposed to, you know, sit for the entire year. Here, 718 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 5: I think that after all the hype of last year 719 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 5: and Salla is certainly somebody who's like aware kind of 720 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 5: the environment around the team. Everything was building toward this 721 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 5: and it was at a fever pitch going into last year, 722 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 5: so then you know, everybody forgets those first what six 723 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 5: games after Aaron gets hurt, They they battled and they 724 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 5: won some games, and Zach played well at times, but 725 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 5: you know, realistically, you were never going to You weren't 726 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 5: going to win. 727 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 3: The Super Bowl. 728 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 5: Once Aaron went down, you probably weren't going to make 729 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 5: the playoffs. Even if everything fell right now, the expectations 730 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 5: are far lower. The last thing they're going to do 731 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 5: is start amping them up again. It's let's let's actually 732 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 5: get to the games and then decide who who's going 733 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 5: to win them. 734 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: Appreciate your time as always, Tom,