WEBVTT - Hour 2 - Big Ten vs. SEC, Jason Garrett 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:08.400 Sports Radio. It's hour or two on this Thursday. Dan 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:10.880 and the dan 'stan Patrick Show come on in stay 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:13.560 a while. The former Cowboys head coach now working for 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:16.800 Football Night America, Jason Garrett, will join us in about 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:20.239 twenty minutes from now. We're waiting to hear from the 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:23.960 NFL Players Association on what their strategy could be as 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:27.360 the NFL is appealing, and I'll go back to what 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:31.240 I was told a few weeks ago. They definitely want 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:34.520 a fine to go along with an indefinite suspension, and 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:40.760 they want him to seek treatment therapy. NFL hasn't budged 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:43.480 off of that, and I think they were emboldened by 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:49.000 what this, you know. Independent arbitrator Sewell Robinson ruled. She 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.839 basically said, I agree with the NFL. I'm not going 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:57.000 to change precedent here and maybe have him be fine 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:00.240 ten million dollars and sit down for an entire season. 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:03.800 But the NFL looks at this is like, all right, 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:06.840 so we have that on our side here. She really 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:09.279 is agreeing with us. The only thing she doesn't agree 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:12.639 with is the precedent that's been set by the NFL. 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:15.319 With previous cases. That's really what it came down to. 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:18.440 They're saying, She's saying, I don't want to do your 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:20.760 dirty work for you, like you should talk to the 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:24.400 NFL Players Association, like this should be you guys working 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.280 this out, not me. I shouldn't be the one who 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:32.840 is setting precedent with how you treat Deshaun Watson. And 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.000 really that's what it's coming down to. So now in 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:39.039 the NFL, Roger Goodell may designate somebody to hear the 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:43.040 so called appeal, but you know this is going to 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:46.640 be a hammer. They're going for an indefinite suspension, they're 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:49.080 gonna want him to be fined, and they're gonna want 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:53.600 him to seek treatment. That's I mean, this is what's happening, 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:57.520 plain and simple. Now, if you're Deshaun Watson's attorney, Rusty Harden, 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:01.120 smartest guy in the room, then do you reach out 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:04.000 to the NFL and say, all right, we'll take twelve 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:08.200 games and ten million dollars and we will have him 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:12.839 undergo therapy. Now maybe that's off the table. If I'm 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:16.240 the NFL, it's off the table. Gave you a chance. 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:20.320 We went through this. Now this is where we are Now, 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:22.760 we did reach out to everybody here. We invited the 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:26.440 judge as well, Sue Robinson. I don't know if she 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:31.000 can come on and talk about it. But if the 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:34.200 Commissioner calls her again and says, hey, Sue, it's the 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:37.480 commission I'd like for you to hear another case. If 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:40.520 i'm that independent artborch, I be like, nah, I don't 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:45.320 think so. I'm good. This is why you have somebody. Now. 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:51.079 I don't like the verdict, but this is the procedure 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:54.120 that you agreed to. Now, this is the first case, 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:58.480 first case she's heard. I'd love to know how both 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.600 sides came to this agreement. Okay, we don't want the 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:05.200 commissioner to be judge and jury. Okay, how about an 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:10.079 independent arbitrator. Okay, but she doesn't get final say, or 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:13.000 he doesn't get final say. The commissioner does. If the 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:18.799 NFL appeals, okay, Like, why would you agree to that, 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:22.240 because I don't know if they said, all right, we'll 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.520 allow you to do that, but we want something else. 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:27.920 Because this is horse trading. You got to get something. 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.760 There's quid pro quol. All right, we'll give you that 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:34.240 that you can hear the final appeal. What do we 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:37.360 get and maybe the NFL Players Association got something. I 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:39.960 have no idea, but that's where we're headed. I think 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.680 they're going to drop the hammer. And I was wondering 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:45.680 if the commissioner. I didn't think the commissioner that they 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:50.560 would appeal because it sends the wrong message that we 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:56.560 brought in somebody independent. But did you really Yeah, she's independent, 0:03:56.720 --> 0:04:00.160 but you're not abiding by what she said. You don't, 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:03.720 you don't agree with it. Now you're looking at how 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:08.200 the public is reacting to this, and that I understand, 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:13.000 you know, forty percent of your fan base women. Okay, 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.279 even in spite of that, you should still do the 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:20.240 right thing. And Deshaun Watson deserves more than this. Deshaun 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.720 Watson should sit down for at least a year. He 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:29.520 should be fined, and he should seek therapy treatment. And 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:32.680 I think the NFL Player Association knows that as well, 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:35.760 but they have to represent their client because he's a 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.600 member of the union. But that's what's happening now. We'll 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:42.440 hear more from the NFLPA tomorrow eight seven seven, three 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:45.120 d P Show email address DPA dan Patrick dot com 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:49.920 Twitter handle. A DPS show operator Tyler's standing by. We 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:53.559 had Mike Florio on Pro Football Talk Live, and he said, 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:57.480 now you have a different strategy, because the Browns had 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:04.120 a strategy for six games, Jacoby Brissette, if this is 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:07.800 an entire season, I think you got to have Plan B. 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:11.840 I think you got to look at maybe Jimmy Garoppolo. 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:16.520 Now here's the dilemma if you want, I guess to 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:18.960 use that word. If you're the Cleveland Browns, what do 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.960 you give up to bring in Jimmy Garoppolo for one year? 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:26.440 Because if you're the Niners, you don't want him, you 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:28.800 don't need him, you don't want him at that price. 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:32.760 The Browns are already picking up some of Baker Mayfield's contract. 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:36.520 They gave up you know, they had to get picks, 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:41.160 give up picks for Deshaun Watson. So it just feels 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:43.520 like there's a lot going on here. If you could 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:48.679 bring in Jimmy Garoppolo for a year, if Deshaun Watson 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:52.400 is done for the entire season. But that Florio said, 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:54.520 you know, the Browns made his wait for the Niners 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.719 to cut Jimmy Garoppolo. Now that you have a six 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:01.000 week window here, which you Kobe Briso that you're committed 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:04.640 to him for six games. That allows Jimmy Garoppolo to 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:08.359 come in, get acclimated and be ready to go maybe 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:11.719 after the fourth game. I mean, you're not be holding dude, 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:15.479 Jacobe Brissett if you can bring in Jimmy Garoppolo. But 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:17.840 just some of the things that are going on. Here's 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:22.640 the other thing, and this is courtesy of Front Office Sports. 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:26.560 NBC could make the Big Ten. The NFL of college 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:31.360 football conferences just got worried about this a little while ago, 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:36.200 but the Big Ten media rights negotiations still going on. 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:40.800 NBC's involved in this. NBC, of course, has had a 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:44.600 longtime partnership with Notre Dame. All of a sudden, if 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.799 you say to the Big Ten, we can deliver Notre 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:50.640 Dame and we want to be in business with the 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:54.080 Big Ten. So then the Big Ten's got Notre Dame 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:58.120 and they're going to bring in USC and UCLA. They're 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:04.160 not done though. They would be promising primetime games and 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:06.960 they would probably go after a few other schools. They 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:10.280 might go after the North Carolina schools from what I'm told, 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:16.480 and then the SEC will then counter and go after Clemson, Florida, 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.480 State and Miami. At least that's what I've been told, 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:21.640 and that was a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, morv, 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:26.040 is the production going to be equivalent to Sunday Night Football? Like? 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:29.080 How many primetime games is Nord to Dame half? How 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.640 many primetime games at USC half? You're looking for those 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.400 primetime games? Like, all right, so's gonna be really good 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:36.800 to share. They got three primetime games I'm looking for 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:40.120 I'm all for it. I'm ready. Well, they would have 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:45.680 Saturday night, so they would have football games Saturday afternoon 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:49.840 to Saturday night. The primetime game would be Saturday Night 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:53.640 with NBC, and then you'd have Sunday Night football with 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:59.800 the NFL. Then all of a sudden you got the 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.000 CC's attention there. But that that's going on as we 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:08.000 speak right now. But you get the nation's second largest 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:12.760 TV market with Los Angeles. With USC and UCLA, the 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:15.920 Big Ten would triple its current payout of four hundred 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:19.800 and forty million dollars a year. Meanwhile, the PAC twelve, 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:24.240 the PAC twelve is supposed to start negotiations once the 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:30.120 Big Ten negotiations wrap up. It's like, uh, hello, anybody 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:36.440 in here? Hello, Hello, who wants to join? Who wants 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:40.640 a conference? Who? But that those are some of the 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.520 headlines here. Yeah, paul knowing how the sec roles. In 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:45.559 response to this, they'll partner with the Live Tour and say, 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:51.000 all right, we're gonna match you guys unlimited funds. A kidding, 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:54.080 all right, we say good morning to those watching on Peacock. 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:57.480 And in case you're wondering, yep, that's a haircut that 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:01.720 I got a little contra versy in the household because 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.520 my wife went to the woman who cuts my hair 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.000 and said, he's gonna want it this way. I want 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:10.480 you to cut it that way. I don't know if 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:12.680 she held up a picture of Steve Kerr of the 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.680 Golden State Warriors, who's a handsome man by the way, 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:19.240 and said, I'd like for Dan's hair to look like that. 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:23.439 Does that make you look at Steve Kerr a little differently? Now? 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.640 Paulie sent me a picture of Steve Kerr already this morning. 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:31.000 It's a nice picture. I mean, I already shoot like 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:36.800 Steve Kerr. Might as well look like him. I run 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:41.199 a team like he does. We're winners, No, they win championships, 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:46.720 we get to the final. Yeah, you like no, I 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.480 want to win. I am not meant. I just said 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:51.680 it's bad for our brand if we win a sports 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:56.080 semi Ye, how about some phone calls in here? Art 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:59.280 and Florida leads this off. Jason Garrett, former Cowboys coach, 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:02.840 will join us in a about ten minutes. Hey Art, Oh, 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:06.800 Hey Bud, Hey, So thank you for not going off 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:10.800 Pete Carroll on us. I am a usc lum um 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:13.200 that that would have been a bad look for you. 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:19.560 Um Tyler, Him and I had a good conversation. I 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:23.240 can't wait to see I heard about the many tomorrow. 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:26.960 It looks like it's gonna be amazing. It's good moving art, 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.679 It's good moving man. Okay, So I love the new 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:34.720 Bang Biscuits with the yogurt um. I think we're going 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:38.720 to order some uh and wanted wanted to touch points 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:43.160 on on maybe the poll question or what you guys 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:46.960 did pre pre game as far as chocolate chip cookies 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:51.079 versus I no, no, I gotta move on here. Thank you. 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:55.120 I'm glad you're joining. You know, the Bang Biscuits got 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:58.600 my aunt and my niece's baptism this weekend. Some presents 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:03.760 by you. Yeah, I got excited about Premier League back 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.920 this weekend. Big man got oil stayed in the driveway. 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.080 I think it could be the we got yogurt dipped 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:12.640 U mini bones h Dan Patrick dot com. That's that's 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:14.440 what Art was talking a lot of other good things 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.760 on the website. I know, you know, when you're on hold, 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:20.559 you feel like you then get to come comment on 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.720 everything that we've spoken about. Yes, Todd, all right, just watching. 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:24.959 Let you know, he got a full tank of gas 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:27.679 and he's going to the grocery store at three o'clock. Okay, 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:30.120 thank you, check back later. I got yeah, I gotta go, 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.400 all right, Hey, give me a call later. Dan, all right, 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:37.439 Art though they got cast a little cheap talk to 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:41.000 get there early. Doctor Tyler about the menu tomorrow? All right, 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:47.920 I like what you're doing there. Yeah, yeah, how's the weather? 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:51.160 You know, weather feels a little warm. It's a little warm, 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:55.800 not as warm as I thought. It's a little yeah, 0:11:55.800 --> 0:12:00.120 like it's eighty six warm to you or call a 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.600 good fishing weather. But yeah, that's just me. You know, 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:06.400 they're not biting. You know, I use a night I've 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:09.800 been using a spinner and I couldn't get any fish 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.440 on Jimmy Johnson. You haven't had him on in a while. 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:14.319 He's being fun to call him a bad A ring 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.400 of honor, you know, do you get a ring in 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:18.440 the ring of like what? I don't know about the 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:20.160 ring of them honor? Like I had to put sun 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:21.720 block on. I'm just going for a ten minute walk 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:25.320 around the neighborhood. Do I need sun blocked in? Yeah, 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:27.040 it's he said he had a good conversation with Tyler. 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.760 Tyler is the world's nicest fall screener. So he's like, Oh, 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:32.520 that is what you're doing. Oh a type of dogs 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:34.319 do you have back there? Are you them barking? Are 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.480 they all right? Do you have a big girl bed? Um? Hey, Tyler, 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:40.000 I'd like to get on the show until Dan. I 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:43.240 hate his haircut and I think he looks terrible. Okay, 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:45.679 hold on, um hey, And I just want to find 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:48.120 out about the menu tomorrow. Oh you know we're having 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:51.720 these hamburgers. Okay, hold on, I'm gonna put you on hold. Yeah, 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:55.800 Tyler cannot say noller. He'll say no in different wayspect 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.320 you know, Dan's not really breaking down the twins bullpen. 0:12:58.360 --> 0:12:59.439 But if you want to call me this weekend, I 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:00.640 can go over it with you. I just gotta do 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:06.839 some prepperk Yeah, be more than happy to Paul, and 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:10.000 Iowa joins us him. Paul, what's on your mind? Man? 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:14.280 I gotta follow that well. I just wanted to ask 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:17.000 all your favorite state food fair is it's coming up here? 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:21.800 And no, really, honestly, Marvin's the goat of answering calls. 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:24.679 Tyler is super nice, but Marvin was just like, hey, man, 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:26.400 that's a really good thought. Call me back in the 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:29.840 fall when we're talking about that topic. Marvin's awesome. I 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:31.480 did want to talk to you about the Big Ten 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.520 and I have a comment and then a question. In 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:37.560 my sports friend group, I've been pushing that the Big 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:40.319 Ten needs to get to twenty or even twenty four 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:44.920 and have two divisions that are national each and one 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:48.120 is Division B, which is relegation. So we have which 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:50.160 is basically the Big Ten West right now is their 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:53.560 second tier division. But if you get the Florida schools 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:56.640 in North Carolina, Notre Dame, your coast to coast and 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.920 they would definitely dominate. But my question is if they 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.880 go with NBC at this point in streaming, would it 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.680 hamstring them down the road to not look at Prime 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:11.400 or another service. I don't know. I can only tell 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.800 you what the information I got. And this is from 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:18.800 a college football insider, but not a TV person. They're 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:21.840 more along the lines of what athletic directors and coaches 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.680 are thinking in a situation like this. Yes, twenty teams, 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:26.120 you don't have to change the name that much. The 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:29.880 Big Tens, right, it flows well that way you could 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:36.640 have two ten team cat conferences, So it is Big Tens. 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.520 I like that. I think that's what you said. I 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:42.000 just sort of took it. No, wait a minute, I 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:45.160 have an idea. Yeah, what is it? Especially we had 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:55.960 ten teams in each side if you did ten, ye, boy, 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:59.600 this is this is big stakes, man, it's big, big 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:04.560 stuff on man, it's hot. And the TV rights for 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:08.520 the Big Ten that ends after the twenty twenty three season. 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:11.680 And I guess what happened. The Big Ten wanted to 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:16.080 give USC and UCLA an opportunity to figure out any 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:19.840 legalities here because USC is a private school but UCLA 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.320 is public. And I think you've already heard from the 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:26.440 governor California talking about not wanting to let UCLA go. 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:30.480 But I think you know. The strategy was the Big 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:32.920 Ten wanted to give those schools a year to be 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:36.000 able to iron out any of the issues that they 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:40.200 would have, but the current media rights deal expires after 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:44.480 the twenty twenty three season in the Big Ten. We'll 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:48.280 take a break. Jason Garrett, former Cowboys coach, will join us. 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:51.760 We got football coming up tonight. If this was a 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:55.280 week later, I might have a different reaction. It feels early. 0:15:56.280 --> 0:16:00.560 It's like college football starting in late August, and I go, no, 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:06.040 it's September. It's weird. I mean, we want that, and 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.840 we like that, we need that with content. But then 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.160 there's part of me that goes, it's too early. 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He is working 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:08.000 tonight Jags and the Raiders The Whole of Fame game 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:11.439 coverage begins a special edition of Football Night in America 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:15.600 at seven Eastern on NBC and Peacock and Jason kind 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:19.439 enough to join us. Give me the level of nerves 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:23.920 of going into a broadcast as opposed to going into 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:27.280 a game as a head coach in the NFL. Hey, Dan, 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:28.919 it's great to be with you. You're a legend. You 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:32.520 know that, right, Thank you, Jameson. You know, I would 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:34.680 say the biggest thing for me is I haven't done 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:37.360 it before. You know, I played football for a long time. 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:39.600 I coached football for a long time. You get into 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:43.040 new experiences in different environments and football, but you have 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:46.200 something to kind of fall back on a lot of experience. 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:49.879 This is new. I ended up doing eight USFL games 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:53.160 in the spring for NBC, and I really enjoyed that experience, 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:55.960 and I felt like every week I got more and 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:59.359 more comfortable. I worked with Jack Collinsworth. He was incredible 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:02.439 and I learned a lot through that experience, so this 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:04.480 will be new, this will be different. But I'm excited 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.200 about the opportunity. And I look at both of these 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:10.600 teams a year ago. John Gruden is there, a year 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:14.480 ago Urban Meyer is there. If you're going to handicap 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:16.760 these two teams, because a lot of people love the Raiders. 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:19.639 This year feels like they're the darlings in the AFC 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:22.280 West with who they brought in. So let's start there. 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:26.240 How promising do the Raiders look in your opinion? Well, 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:28.480 the thing you can't forget about the Raiders. They won 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:31.600 ten games last year, and one of the best coaching 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:34.720 jobs done in the NFL last year was by Rich Pasaccia. 0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:38.120 He did an outstanding job as interim head coach out 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:39.879 there with all the things that were going on in 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:43.920 that organization to keep everybody together. They won four games 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:47.400 down the stretch, they lost a closed playoff game in Cincinnati, 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:50.560 and there are a lot of really good pieces there. Obviously. 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:53.600 Josh McDaniels comes in now his second opportunity as a 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:56.920 head coach, well documented that he feels like he learned 0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:59.400 from the first experience and he's going to go about 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:02.320 it maybe a different way this time, but he has 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:04.679 to be excited about the pieces he has in place, 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:07.560 how they played on offense, the guys they have, they 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:09.919 had Davante Adams, So I think there's a lot of 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:13.320 stuff to be excited about there with his second opportunity. 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:16.600 In regards to Jacksonville, I think more than anything else, 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:19.640 they just need to right the ship. They haven't been 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:22.480 good for a long long time and a lot of 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:26.639 single digit win seasons, a lot of two four six 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:30.800 win seasons of the last few years. Last year was 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:34.280 a real challenge for everybody. So now Doug Peterson gets 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:37.280 his second chance, and he obviously has a winning pedigree, 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:39.800 won a super Bowl in Philadelphia. He's going to go 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:42.720 try to put his program in place down there, and 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:46.280 maybe more than anything else, culture is an overused word, 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:48.720 but he's got to get the culture right and he's 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:51.680 got to bring the right people in. That's where culture starts. 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:55.440 He understands how to do that. He started that process 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:57.960 and they just have to be patient there. They can't 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:02.359 take any shortcuts. They have a key quarterback, potentially great player, 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:05.000 and Trevor Lawrence. They got to create a good environment 0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:07.520 for him. So I see these two teams being at 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:11.640 different fate, different stages in their development. A ten win team, 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:14.600 a playoff team last year with a new regime, and 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:16.639 then a team that hasn't been good for a long time, 0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:19.399 so they'll approach it a little bit differently. I think 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:23.000 I was wondering your take, obviously, with what the Browns 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:26.160 are dealing with Deshaun Watson. You dealt with some high 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:29.119 profile cases Greg Hardy, Zeke Elliott when you were with 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:32.040 the Cowboys. What is the role of the coach in 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:35.520 a situation like that where you don't know when you 0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:39.240 get them or what the punishment's going to be. I 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:40.840 think the biggest thing you try to do as a 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:46.440 head coach in twenty twenty two and probably really anytime, 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:49.240 is trying to keep your team focused on the things 0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:52.600 they can control. Again, sounds like a cliche, sounds like 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:55.960 coach speak, but it's so true. There's so much distraction 0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:59.159 in the world, and when you have those situations on 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:02.320 your teams, sometimes your guys can get distracted. They can 0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:03.919 kind of take their eye off the ball of what 0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:06.280 they need to do each day to be a great 0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:08.920 player and to have a great team. So you're constantly 0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:12.320 trying to reinforce that message. These are the things we 0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:15.040 can't control. We can't control those other things. Don't worry 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:18.960 about those things. Next man up mentality. Again another cliche, 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:23.080 but it's real. Some of these situations provide opportunity for 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:25.520 someone to step in and get a chance to play. 0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:27.760 You have to encourage those guys to take advantage of 0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:31.200 those opportunities. So it's more about, hey, let's not get 0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:33.960 distracted by this. Let's focus on what we need to 0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:36.800 do to be our best. How would you describe the 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:41.560 pressure of being the Cowboys head coach? Obviously it's a 0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:45.520 marquee position, there's no question about that. You know, everyone 0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:49.600 talks about the Yankee shortstop, the Cowboy quarterback. The cowboy 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:52.680 coach is the same kind of a position. Everything is 0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:57.600 highly scrutinized. When you have success, maybe it didn't win enough. 0:22:57.680 --> 0:23:00.240 When you have some adversity, you know, there's just a 0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:03.200 lot of attention that comes with it. But I never 0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:05.600 worked a day in my life in Dallas. I absolutely 0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:07.679 loved it. I embraced every minute of it. When we 0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:11.120 had success, certainly that was fun. We had some adversity, Hey, 0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:13.800