Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 1: and the dan 'stan Patrick Show come on in stay
Speaker 1: a while. The former Cowboys head coach now working for
Speaker 1: Football Night America, Jason Garrett, will join us in about
Speaker 1: twenty minutes from now. We're waiting to hear from the
Speaker 1: NFL Players Association on what their strategy could be as
Speaker 1: the NFL is appealing, and I'll go back to what
Speaker 1: I was told a few weeks ago. They definitely want
Speaker 1: a fine to go along with an indefinite suspension, and
Speaker 1: they want him to seek treatment therapy. NFL hasn't budged
Speaker 1: off of that, and I think they were emboldened by
Speaker 1: what this, you know. Independent arbitrator Sewell Robinson ruled. She
Speaker 1: basically said, I agree with the NFL. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to change precedent here and maybe have him be fine
Speaker 1: ten million dollars and sit down for an entire season.
Speaker 1: But the NFL looks at this is like, all right,
Speaker 1: so we have that on our side here. She really
Speaker 1: is agreeing with us. The only thing she doesn't agree
Speaker 1: with is the precedent that's been set by the NFL.
Speaker 1: With previous cases. That's really what it came down to.
Speaker 1: They're saying, She's saying, I don't want to do your
Speaker 1: dirty work for you, like you should talk to the
Speaker 1: NFL Players Association, like this should be you guys working
Speaker 1: this out, not me. I shouldn't be the one who
Speaker 1: is setting precedent with how you treat Deshaun Watson. And
Speaker 1: really that's what it's coming down to. So now in
Speaker 1: the NFL, Roger Goodell may designate somebody to hear the
Speaker 1: so called appeal, but you know this is going to
Speaker 1: be a hammer. They're going for an indefinite suspension, they're
Speaker 1: gonna want him to be fined, and they're gonna want
Speaker 1: him to seek treatment. That's I mean, this is what's happening,
Speaker 1: plain and simple. Now, if you're Deshaun Watson's attorney, Rusty Harden,
Speaker 1: smartest guy in the room, then do you reach out
Speaker 1: to the NFL and say, all right, we'll take twelve
Speaker 1: games and ten million dollars and we will have him
Speaker 1: undergo therapy. Now maybe that's off the table. If I'm
Speaker 1: the NFL, it's off the table. Gave you a chance.
Speaker 1: We went through this. Now this is where we are Now,
Speaker 1: we did reach out to everybody here. We invited the
Speaker 1: judge as well, Sue Robinson. I don't know if she
Speaker 1: can come on and talk about it. But if the
Speaker 1: Commissioner calls her again and says, hey, Sue, it's the
Speaker 1: commission I'd like for you to hear another case. If
Speaker 1: i'm that independent artborch, I be like, nah, I don't
Speaker 1: think so. I'm good. This is why you have somebody. Now.
Speaker 1: I don't like the verdict, but this is the procedure
Speaker 1: that you agreed to. Now, this is the first case,
Speaker 1: first case she's heard. I'd love to know how both
Speaker 1: sides came to this agreement. Okay, we don't want the
Speaker 1: commissioner to be judge and jury. Okay, how about an
Speaker 1: independent arbitrator. Okay, but she doesn't get final say, or
Speaker 1: he doesn't get final say. The commissioner does. If the
Speaker 1: NFL appeals, okay, Like, why would you agree to that,
Speaker 1: because I don't know if they said, all right, we'll
Speaker 1: allow you to do that, but we want something else.
Speaker 1: Because this is horse trading. You got to get something.
Speaker 1: There's quid pro quol. All right, we'll give you that
Speaker 1: that you can hear the final appeal. What do we
Speaker 1: get and maybe the NFL Players Association got something. I
Speaker 1: have no idea, but that's where we're headed. I think
Speaker 1: they're going to drop the hammer. And I was wondering
Speaker 1: if the commissioner. I didn't think the commissioner that they
Speaker 1: would appeal because it sends the wrong message that we
Speaker 1: brought in somebody independent. But did you really Yeah, she's independent,
Speaker 1: but you're not abiding by what she said. You don't,
Speaker 1: you don't agree with it. Now you're looking at how
Speaker 1: the public is reacting to this, and that I understand,
Speaker 1: you know, forty percent of your fan base women. Okay,
Speaker 1: even in spite of that, you should still do the
Speaker 1: right thing. And Deshaun Watson deserves more than this. Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson should sit down for at least a year. He
Speaker 1: should be fined, and he should seek therapy treatment. And
Speaker 1: I think the NFL Player Association knows that as well,
Speaker 1: but they have to represent their client because he's a
Speaker 1: member of the union. But that's what's happening now. We'll
Speaker 1: hear more from the NFLPA tomorrow eight seven seven, three
Speaker 1: d P Show email address DPA dan Patrick dot com
Speaker 1: Twitter handle. A DPS show operator Tyler's standing by. We
Speaker 1: had Mike Florio on Pro Football Talk Live, and he said,
Speaker 1: now you have a different strategy, because the Browns had
Speaker 1: a strategy for six games, Jacoby Brissette, if this is
Speaker 1: an entire season, I think you got to have Plan B.
Speaker 1: I think you got to look at maybe Jimmy Garoppolo.
Speaker 1: Now here's the dilemma if you want, I guess to
Speaker 1: use that word. If you're the Cleveland Browns, what do
Speaker 1: you give up to bring in Jimmy Garoppolo for one year?
Speaker 1: Because if you're the Niners, you don't want him, you
Speaker 1: don't need him, you don't want him at that price.
Speaker 1: The Browns are already picking up some of Baker Mayfield's contract.
Speaker 1: They gave up you know, they had to get picks,
Speaker 1: give up picks for Deshaun Watson. So it just feels
Speaker 1: like there's a lot going on here. If you could
Speaker 1: bring in Jimmy Garoppolo for a year, if Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: is done for the entire season. But that Florio said,
Speaker 1: you know, the Browns made his wait for the Niners
Speaker 1: to cut Jimmy Garoppolo. Now that you have a six
Speaker 1: week window here, which you Kobe Briso that you're committed
Speaker 1: to him for six games. That allows Jimmy Garoppolo to
Speaker 1: come in, get acclimated and be ready to go maybe
Speaker 1: after the fourth game. I mean, you're not be holding dude,
Speaker 1: Jacobe Brissett if you can bring in Jimmy Garoppolo. But
Speaker 1: just some of the things that are going on. Here's
Speaker 1: the other thing, and this is courtesy of Front Office Sports.
Speaker 1: NBC could make the Big Ten. The NFL of college
Speaker 1: football conferences just got worried about this a little while ago,
Speaker 1: but the Big Ten media rights negotiations still going on.
Speaker 1: NBC's involved in this. NBC, of course, has had a
Speaker 1: longtime partnership with Notre Dame. All of a sudden, if
Speaker 1: you say to the Big Ten, we can deliver Notre
Speaker 1: Dame and we want to be in business with the
Speaker 1: Big Ten. So then the Big Ten's got Notre Dame
Speaker 1: and they're going to bring in USC and UCLA. They're
Speaker 1: not done though. They would be promising primetime games and
Speaker 1: they would probably go after a few other schools. They
Speaker 1: might go after the North Carolina schools from what I'm told,
Speaker 1: and then the SEC will then counter and go after Clemson, Florida,
Speaker 1: State and Miami. At least that's what I've been told,
Speaker 1: and that was a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, morv,
Speaker 1: is the production going to be equivalent to Sunday Night Football? Like?
Speaker 1: How many primetime games is Nord to Dame half? How
Speaker 1: many primetime games at USC half? You're looking for those
Speaker 1: primetime games? Like, all right, so's gonna be really good
Speaker 1: to share. They got three primetime games I'm looking for
Speaker 1: I'm all for it. I'm ready. Well, they would have
Speaker 1: Saturday night, so they would have football games Saturday afternoon
Speaker 1: to Saturday night. The primetime game would be Saturday Night
Speaker 1: with NBC, and then you'd have Sunday Night football with
Speaker 1: the NFL. Then all of a sudden you got the
Speaker 1: CC's attention there. But that that's going on as we
Speaker 1: speak right now. But you get the nation's second largest
Speaker 1: TV market with Los Angeles. With USC and UCLA, the
Speaker 1: Big Ten would triple its current payout of four hundred
Speaker 1: and forty million dollars a year. Meanwhile, the PAC twelve,
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve is supposed to start negotiations once the
Speaker 1: Big Ten negotiations wrap up. It's like, uh, hello, anybody
Speaker 1: in here? Hello, Hello, who wants to join? Who wants
Speaker 1: a conference? Who? But that those are some of the
Speaker 1: headlines here. Yeah, paul knowing how the sec roles. In
Speaker 1: response to this, they'll partner with the Live Tour and say,
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna match you guys unlimited funds. A kidding,
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Speaker 1: and said, I'd like for Dan's hair to look like that.
Speaker 1: Does that make you look at Steve Kerr a little differently? Now?
Speaker 1: Paulie sent me a picture of Steve Kerr already this morning.
Speaker 1: It's a nice picture. I mean, I already shoot like
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr. Might as well look like him. I run
Speaker 1: a team like he does. We're winners, No, they win championships,
Speaker 1: we get to the final. Yeah, you like no, I
Speaker 1: want to win. I am not meant. I just said
Speaker 1: it's bad for our brand if we win a sports
Speaker 1: semi Ye, how about some phone calls in here? Art
Speaker 1: and Florida leads this off. Jason Garrett, former Cowboys coach,
Speaker 1: will join us in a about ten minutes. Hey Art, Oh,
Speaker 1: Hey Bud, Hey, So thank you for not going off
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll on us. I am a usc lum um
Speaker 1: that that would have been a bad look for you.
Speaker 1: Um Tyler, Him and I had a good conversation. I
Speaker 1: can't wait to see I heard about the many tomorrow.
Speaker 1: It looks like it's gonna be amazing. It's good moving art,
Speaker 1: It's good moving man. Okay, So I love the new
Speaker 1: Bang Biscuits with the yogurt um. I think we're going
Speaker 1: to order some uh and wanted wanted to touch points
Speaker 1: on on maybe the poll question or what you guys
Speaker 1: did pre pre game as far as chocolate chip cookies
Speaker 1: versus I no, no, I gotta move on here. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're joining. You know, the Bang Biscuits got
Speaker 1: my aunt and my niece's baptism this weekend. Some presents
Speaker 1: by you. Yeah, I got excited about Premier League back
Speaker 1: this weekend. Big man got oil stayed in the driveway.
Speaker 1: I think it could be the we got yogurt dipped
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Speaker 1: what Art was talking a lot of other good things
Speaker 1: on the website. I know, you know, when you're on hold,
Speaker 1: you feel like you then get to come comment on
Speaker 1: everything that we've spoken about. Yes, Todd, all right, just watching.
Speaker 1: Let you know, he got a full tank of gas
Speaker 1: and he's going to the grocery store at three o'clock. Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you, check back later. I got yeah, I gotta go,
Speaker 1: all right, Hey, give me a call later. Dan, all right,
Speaker 1: Art though they got cast a little cheap talk to
Speaker 1: get there early. Doctor Tyler about the menu tomorrow? All right,
Speaker 1: I like what you're doing there. Yeah, yeah, how's the weather?
Speaker 1: You know, weather feels a little warm. It's a little warm,
Speaker 1: not as warm as I thought. It's a little yeah,
Speaker 1: like it's eighty six warm to you or call a
Speaker 1: good fishing weather. But yeah, that's just me. You know,
Speaker 1: they're not biting. You know, I use a night I've
Speaker 1: been using a spinner and I couldn't get any fish
Speaker 1: on Jimmy Johnson. You haven't had him on in a while.
Speaker 1: He's being fun to call him a bad A ring
Speaker 1: of honor, you know, do you get a ring in
Speaker 1: the ring of like what? I don't know about the
Speaker 1: ring of them honor? Like I had to put sun
Speaker 1: block on. I'm just going for a ten minute walk
Speaker 1: around the neighborhood. Do I need sun blocked in? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's he said he had a good conversation with Tyler.
Speaker 1: Tyler is the world's nicest fall screener. So he's like, Oh,
Speaker 1: that is what you're doing. Oh a type of dogs
Speaker 1: do you have back there? Are you them barking? Are
Speaker 1: they all right? Do you have a big girl bed? Um? Hey, Tyler,
Speaker 1: I'd like to get on the show until Dan. I
Speaker 1: hate his haircut and I think he looks terrible. Okay,
Speaker 1: hold on, um hey, And I just want to find
Speaker 1: out about the menu tomorrow. Oh you know we're having
Speaker 1: these hamburgers. Okay, hold on, I'm gonna put you on hold. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Tyler cannot say noller. He'll say no in different wayspect
Speaker 1: you know, Dan's not really breaking down the twins bullpen.
Speaker 1: But if you want to call me this weekend, I
Speaker 1: can go over it with you. I just gotta do
Speaker 1: some prepperk Yeah, be more than happy to Paul, and
Speaker 1: Iowa joins us him. Paul, what's on your mind? Man?
Speaker 1: I gotta follow that well. I just wanted to ask
Speaker 1: all your favorite state food fair is it's coming up here?
Speaker 1: And no, really, honestly, Marvin's the goat of answering calls.
Speaker 1: Tyler is super nice, but Marvin was just like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: that's a really good thought. Call me back in the
Speaker 1: fall when we're talking about that topic. Marvin's awesome. I
Speaker 1: did want to talk to you about the Big Ten
Speaker 1: and I have a comment and then a question. In
Speaker 1: my sports friend group, I've been pushing that the Big
Speaker 1: Ten needs to get to twenty or even twenty four
Speaker 1: and have two divisions that are national each and one
Speaker 1: is Division B, which is relegation. So we have which
Speaker 1: is basically the Big Ten West right now is their
Speaker 1: second tier division. But if you get the Florida schools
Speaker 1: in North Carolina, Notre Dame, your coast to coast and
Speaker 1: they would definitely dominate. But my question is if they
Speaker 1: go with NBC at this point in streaming, would it
Speaker 1: hamstring them down the road to not look at Prime
Speaker 1: or another service. I don't know. I can only tell
Speaker 1: you what the information I got. And this is from
Speaker 1: a college football insider, but not a TV person. They're
Speaker 1: more along the lines of what athletic directors and coaches
Speaker 1: are thinking in a situation like this. Yes, twenty teams,
Speaker 1: you don't have to change the name that much. The
Speaker 1: Big Tens, right, it flows well that way you could
Speaker 1: have two ten team cat conferences, So it is Big Tens.
Speaker 1: I like that. I think that's what you said. I
Speaker 1: just sort of took it. No, wait a minute, I
Speaker 1: have an idea. Yeah, what is it? Especially we had
Speaker 1: ten teams in each side if you did ten, ye, boy,
Speaker 1: this is this is big stakes, man, it's big, big
Speaker 1: stuff on man, it's hot. And the TV rights for
Speaker 1: the Big Ten that ends after the twenty twenty three season.
Speaker 1: And I guess what happened. The Big Ten wanted to
Speaker 1: give USC and UCLA an opportunity to figure out any
Speaker 1: legalities here because USC is a private school but UCLA
Speaker 1: is public. And I think you've already heard from the
Speaker 1: governor California talking about not wanting to let UCLA go.
Speaker 1: But I think you know. The strategy was the Big
Speaker 1: Ten wanted to give those schools a year to be
Speaker 1: able to iron out any of the issues that they
Speaker 1: would have, but the current media rights deal expires after
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three season in the Big Ten. We'll
Speaker 1: take a break. Jason Garrett, former Cowboys coach, will join us.
Speaker 1: We got football coming up tonight. If this was a
Speaker 1: week later, I might have a different reaction. It feels early.
Speaker 1: It's like college football starting in late August, and I go, no,
Speaker 1: it's September. It's weird. I mean, we want that, and
Speaker 1: we like that, we need that with content. But then
Speaker 1: there's part of me that goes, it's too early. It
Speaker 1: feels like but for somebody who used to bet on
Speaker 1: preseason games, I guess I shouldn't, you know, turn my
Speaker 1: nose up to this. We'll take a break. We're back
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Speaker 1: now working for Football Night in America. He is working
Speaker 1: tonight Jags and the Raiders The Whole of Fame game
Speaker 1: coverage begins a special edition of Football Night in America
Speaker 1: at seven Eastern on NBC and Peacock and Jason kind
Speaker 1: enough to join us. Give me the level of nerves
Speaker 1: of going into a broadcast as opposed to going into
Speaker 1: a game as a head coach in the NFL. Hey, Dan,
Speaker 1: it's great to be with you. You're a legend. You
Speaker 1: know that, right, Thank you, Jameson. You know, I would
Speaker 1: say the biggest thing for me is I haven't done
Speaker 1: it before. You know, I played football for a long time.
Speaker 1: I coached football for a long time. You get into
Speaker 1: new experiences in different environments and football, but you have
Speaker 1: something to kind of fall back on a lot of experience.
Speaker 1: This is new. I ended up doing eight USFL games
Speaker 1: in the spring for NBC, and I really enjoyed that experience,
Speaker 1: and I felt like every week I got more and
Speaker 1: more comfortable. I worked with Jack Collinsworth. He was incredible
Speaker 1: and I learned a lot through that experience, so this
Speaker 1: will be new, this will be different. But I'm excited
Speaker 1: about the opportunity. And I look at both of these
Speaker 1: teams a year ago. John Gruden is there, a year
Speaker 1: ago Urban Meyer is there. If you're going to handicap
Speaker 1: these two teams, because a lot of people love the Raiders.
Speaker 1: This year feels like they're the darlings in the AFC
Speaker 1: West with who they brought in. So let's start there.
Speaker 1: How promising do the Raiders look in your opinion? Well,
Speaker 1: the thing you can't forget about the Raiders. They won
Speaker 1: ten games last year, and one of the best coaching
Speaker 1: jobs done in the NFL last year was by Rich Pasaccia.
Speaker 1: He did an outstanding job as interim head coach out
Speaker 1: there with all the things that were going on in
Speaker 1: that organization to keep everybody together. They won four games
Speaker 1: down the stretch, they lost a closed playoff game in Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: and there are a lot of really good pieces there. Obviously.
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels comes in now his second opportunity as a
Speaker 1: head coach, well documented that he feels like he learned
Speaker 1: from the first experience and he's going to go about
Speaker 1: it maybe a different way this time, but he has
Speaker 1: to be excited about the pieces he has in place,
Speaker 1: how they played on offense, the guys they have, they
Speaker 1: had Davante Adams, So I think there's a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff to be excited about there with his second opportunity.
Speaker 1: In regards to Jacksonville, I think more than anything else,
Speaker 1: they just need to right the ship. They haven't been
Speaker 1: good for a long long time and a lot of
Speaker 1: single digit win seasons, a lot of two four six
Speaker 1: win seasons of the last few years. Last year was
Speaker 1: a real challenge for everybody. So now Doug Peterson gets
Speaker 1: his second chance, and he obviously has a winning pedigree,
Speaker 1: won a super Bowl in Philadelphia. He's going to go
Speaker 1: try to put his program in place down there, and
Speaker 1: maybe more than anything else, culture is an overused word,
Speaker 1: but he's got to get the culture right and he's
Speaker 1: got to bring the right people in. That's where culture starts.
Speaker 1: He understands how to do that. He started that process
Speaker 1: and they just have to be patient there. They can't
Speaker 1: take any shortcuts. They have a key quarterback, potentially great player,
Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence. They got to create a good environment
Speaker 1: for him. So I see these two teams being at
Speaker 1: different fate, different stages in their development. A ten win team,
Speaker 1: a playoff team last year with a new regime, and
Speaker 1: then a team that hasn't been good for a long time,
Speaker 1: so they'll approach it a little bit differently. I think
Speaker 1: I was wondering your take, obviously, with what the Browns
Speaker 1: are dealing with Deshaun Watson. You dealt with some high
Speaker 1: profile cases Greg Hardy, Zeke Elliott when you were with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. What is the role of the coach in
Speaker 1: a situation like that where you don't know when you
Speaker 1: get them or what the punishment's going to be. I
Speaker 1: think the biggest thing you try to do as a
Speaker 1: head coach in twenty twenty two and probably really anytime,
Speaker 1: is trying to keep your team focused on the things
Speaker 1: they can control. Again, sounds like a cliche, sounds like
Speaker 1: coach speak, but it's so true. There's so much distraction
Speaker 1: in the world, and when you have those situations on
Speaker 1: your teams, sometimes your guys can get distracted. They can
Speaker 1: kind of take their eye off the ball of what
Speaker 1: they need to do each day to be a great
Speaker 1: player and to have a great team. So you're constantly
Speaker 1: trying to reinforce that message. These are the things we
Speaker 1: can't control. We can't control those other things. Don't worry
Speaker 1: about those things. Next man up mentality. Again another cliche,
Speaker 1: but it's real. Some of these situations provide opportunity for
Speaker 1: someone to step in and get a chance to play.
Speaker 1: You have to encourage those guys to take advantage of
Speaker 1: those opportunities. So it's more about, hey, let's not get
Speaker 1: distracted by this. Let's focus on what we need to
Speaker 1: do to be our best. How would you describe the
Speaker 1: pressure of being the Cowboys head coach? Obviously it's a
Speaker 1: marquee position, there's no question about that. You know, everyone
Speaker 1: talks about the Yankee shortstop, the Cowboy quarterback. The cowboy
Speaker 1: coach is the same kind of a position. Everything is
Speaker 1: highly scrutinized. When you have success, maybe it didn't win enough.
Speaker 1: When you have some adversity, you know, there's just a
Speaker 1: lot of attention that comes with it. But I never
Speaker 1: worked a day in my life in Dallas. I absolutely
Speaker 1: loved it. I embraced every minute of it. When we
Speaker 1: had success, certainly that was fun. We had some adversity, Hey,
Speaker 1: you're trying to build something you're trying to build something
Speaker 1: great with the people you love and care about. So
Speaker 1: that's kind of how I viewed it, and I embraced it.
Speaker 1: Some of those things, as they say, they come with
Speaker 1: the dinner. But but again, you embrace those opportunities. Was
Speaker 1: a fun experience. Okay, now you got to get rid
Speaker 1: of that description. You can't use that in your playbook
Speaker 1: here because the media is going to take what you
Speaker 1: just said, Hey, I never worked today when I was
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. They're gonna take that. Then they're gonna
Speaker 1: twist it and be like Garrett didn't put in enough
Speaker 1: time as the Cowboys head coach. I'm just just saying
Speaker 1: this is how these things work. They're gonna pull that quote. Jason. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I trust your journalistic integrity. Oh it's not me. You
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about me, you know, it's these
Speaker 1: other guys in the media. Do you do what Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones impersonation? I don't, but ye know us to follow
Speaker 1: Come on, you do a Jerry Joe. He can't fire
Speaker 1: you now. Yeah, just to follow up on another thought
Speaker 1: and then we'll get back to the Jerry Jones impersonation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just to put a button on it, you know, when
Speaker 1: you're in those situations. You know, we used to talk
Speaker 1: to our players about this all the time, ever since
Speaker 1: we were this high. We wanted a play and coach
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and you have these opportunities to do that.
Speaker 1: Don't get distracted by all the other stuff. Focus on
Speaker 1: what you love to do. And when you know, if
Speaker 1: you do what you love and you love what you do,
Speaker 1: you never work a day in your life. And that's
Speaker 1: something I really believe in, and that's something I was
Speaker 1: fortunate enough to do in Dallas for a long time.
Speaker 1: You have one Super Bowl ring, I have three oh three?
Speaker 1: When do you bring them out? Oh? I don't bring
Speaker 1: them out. I rarely do. I was a bit player
Speaker 1: on some great teams and again those were amazing experiences
Speaker 1: to be a part of. Okay, but there's still yours.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, but so you don't wear them out.
Speaker 1: You would never do this like first night Football night
Speaker 1: in America. You know Rodney, Rodney and Tony they sometimes
Speaker 1: bring out their hardware. Yeah. I was around some amazing
Speaker 1: players in Dallas for years and they always had an
Speaker 1: incredible ability to go into a restaurant and they do
Speaker 1: this with the Super Bowl ring out. Hey, you know,
Speaker 1: I was looking for a table. I was thinking about
Speaker 1: getting an upgrade to first class. I maintain, though, Jason,
Speaker 1: that the NFL should come out with a ring that's
Speaker 1: really gaudy, but then a ring that you can wear out.
Speaker 1: It's it's like your wife with an engagement ring or
Speaker 1: something that's a little bit simpler, nicer that you can
Speaker 1: wear out and not feel like like a class ring,
Speaker 1: you know, in the old days. What do you think, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty good idea. You know, well,
Speaker 1: we got those in the nineties. We thought they were
Speaker 1: the biggest things ever. A ninety two Super Bowl ring
Speaker 1: was incredible. Then hey, you know the next year it
Speaker 1: was so much bigger, nine five bigger than that. I mean,
Speaker 1: those are like pinky rings compared to the rings these days.
Speaker 1: So I think your points well made. What is it like, though,
Speaker 1: when you're on the sidelines when you're watching Troy Aikman
Speaker 1: so being a quarterback, but watching him in the biggest
Speaker 1: game games of his career. Because I've stood on the
Speaker 1: sidelines and I've watched these guys performed, but I didn't
Speaker 1: play the position, and it's such a different game when
Speaker 1: you're on the sidelines watching this in real speed, and
Speaker 1: you hear everything and those hits are louder and all
Speaker 1: of that. But when you're watching Troy, what's that feeling
Speaker 1: like on the sidelines. Well, I did play the position,
Speaker 1: and the position was always very hard for me to play.
Speaker 1: And when I watched Troy play, he just made the
Speaker 1: whole thing look so easy. And he had such great
Speaker 1: physical ability, but he also had these amazing instincts and
Speaker 1: this mental and physical toughness and all these intangibles that
Speaker 1: were just so rare, and he was all He's so prepared.
Speaker 1: He just seemed to handle every situation so well. So
Speaker 1: I always had great admiration for him. We played together
Speaker 1: for eight years and he's a dear friend of mine,
Speaker 1: so I was always pulling like hell for him. I'll
Speaker 1: give you a quick story. He retires in two thousand.
Speaker 1: I go to New York and play for four more
Speaker 1: years as a backup. So it's the early two thousands
Speaker 1: and I'm actually visiting him out in Santa Barbara, California
Speaker 1: before training camp. He's a broadcaster, I'm a quarterback in
Speaker 1: the NFL, and we go work out together. He's probably
Speaker 1: you know he's his mid thirties, and so we go
Speaker 1: lift and we go run, and we're gonna throw. And
Speaker 1: so I've been in offseason program. I'm in shape, I'm
Speaker 1: doing the whole thing. He hasn't thrown a ball in
Speaker 1: a year and a half, and so he's catching for
Speaker 1: me and I'm dropping back and it's all I can
Speaker 1: do to get the ball to him, and the all
Speaker 1: day and he's taking the ball throwing it back to
Speaker 1: me like it's nothing. I think the role should be
Speaker 1: reversed here. How do you explain Bredy at five? I
Speaker 1: can't explain them. I can't begin to explain them. The
Speaker 1: year that he had last year, what he's done the
Speaker 1: last couple of years, it's it's mind boggling. Physically, he
Speaker 1: looks as good now as he did twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: He moves as well, he probably throws it way better. Obviously,
Speaker 1: is understanding is off the charts. But forty five years old.
Speaker 1: The guys coming out are twenty and twenty one, and
Speaker 1: they're quick and fast and explosive, and he continues to
Speaker 1: do this, it's impossible to understand. I think we all
Speaker 1: need to get on that avocado diet because it's something else.
Speaker 1: And you know, I've said this, I've said this publicly.
Speaker 1: He's the greatest football player that ever played. And it's
Speaker 1: hard to even begin to make an argument about anybody
Speaker 1: else just his production over time and what he's done.
Speaker 1: You know, he was in New England and they were
Speaker 1: a championship team. Tampa Bay won seven games. The year
Speaker 1: before he goes to Tampa, they win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: New England wins seven games. So it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: his impact obviously is significant. He's made a lot of
Speaker 1: players around him have a lot of success through the years,
Speaker 1: and certainly a lot of coaches as well. He's just
Speaker 1: he's an amazing football player. But explain to me what
Speaker 1: you see that's different than what other quarterbacks see. You
Speaker 1: went to Princeton, you know, so your IQ is not
Speaker 1: question but football IQ. This is this is different what
Speaker 1: Brady's doing. But I'm trying to understand when you're out there,
Speaker 1: can you teach what Brady is doing? Well? Obviously the
Speaker 1: experience helps him. He's been in every situation imaginable. He's
Speaker 1: seen every front, he's seen every blitz, he's seen every
Speaker 1: coverage over and over and over again in practice, in
Speaker 1: games and every situation. So he's a smart guy. He
Speaker 1: cares a hell of a lot about football, so he
Speaker 1: studies it, he remembers the experiences, he learned from the experiences,
Speaker 1: he loves the game. No stone is unturned. And and
Speaker 1: then I do believe, as my dad used to say,
Speaker 1: when you come out and the doctor waction the behind,
Speaker 1: some guys have some of that stuff in him. So
Speaker 1: he has some instincts that are that are born. And
Speaker 1: then he's incredibly well prepared, and he loves it, and
Speaker 1: he just processes the game, processes the game so quickly.
Speaker 1: If you watch him play, he knows exactly where he
Speaker 1: wants to go with the ball before it hits his hand. Boom, boom, boom,
Speaker 1: it's out. Boom boom, boom, it's out. Boom boom, boom,
Speaker 1: it's out. And he does that over and over and
Speaker 1: over again. And he's just he's a rare human being.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. Mary, give me a complicated
Speaker 1: play you had in Dallas, So you send the play
Speaker 1: in and then I'm I'm gonna get it from you.
Speaker 1: How about you give me two because did you would
Speaker 1: you normally send in two plays? And then depending on
Speaker 1: what was happening at the line of scrimmage. Yeah, a
Speaker 1: lot of different versions of that. You have these things
Speaker 1: called kills or check with me, So send something into me.
Speaker 1: How about explode the gun, bunch right, motor, scat right,
Speaker 1: triple seam burst, kill, thirty two posts. How many options
Speaker 1: do I have off that one play? Well, one's a
Speaker 1: pass play. It's a shift and then a motion, and
Speaker 1: then it's a pass play. And then if you don't
Speaker 1: like the look, you say kill, kill, kill, or we're
Speaker 1: gonna kill a tour routing play. So that's kind of
Speaker 1: a basic run pass kill type thing. This is kind
Speaker 1: of predates the RPOs. Give me a give me the
Speaker 1: simplest play call ever that you would call Emmett Smith
Speaker 1: is the leading rusher in NFL history. His favorite play
Speaker 1: was I right lead draw right, and he's the eye.
Speaker 1: Well he's he dots the Iye, We're gonna run lead draw.
Speaker 1: Darryl Johnston leads up on the mic linebacker. We've blocked
Speaker 1: the guys over, so we handed to Emmett. He finds
Speaker 1: the holes and he probably ran that play for about
Speaker 1: ten thousand yards. That's one of those that you knew
Speaker 1: it was coming. You could tell the defense it was coming,
Speaker 1: and he got Larry Allen. It didn't matter, right, Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: Larry had a lot of other guys. And then when
Speaker 1: you have Michael Irvan outside and Alvin Harper and Jane
Speaker 1: Ovachek and Aikman's your quarterback, there's a lot of weapons.
Speaker 1: Do you got a Michael Irvan story for us? That's
Speaker 1: okay for this show? I do. I do. Michael Irvin
Speaker 1: is one of my favorite people ever. And Troy Aikman
Speaker 1: threw a lot of balls to Michael Irvan in the games.
Speaker 1: That's why they're both in the Hall of Fame. I
Speaker 1: threw a lot of balls to Michael Irvin on the
Speaker 1: side and practice and workouts leading up to practice, and
Speaker 1: so it was it was July and the time leading
Speaker 1: up to training camp, and this was the day as
Speaker 1: a voicemail, and I was away and I get back
Speaker 1: on a Sunday, probably four days before we go to camp,
Speaker 1: and I literally have ten messages on my machine from
Speaker 1: Michael Irvin saying as soon as you get back into town,
Speaker 1: meeting me up at Valley Ranch. As soon as you
Speaker 1: get back into it doesn't matter what time. So it's
Speaker 1: literally like seven o'clock at night on a Sunday night,
Speaker 1: and just call it July twelfth. And so I go
Speaker 1: up there, and we used to do these things called metabolics.
Speaker 1: Ten routes. You're run ten straight routes, you jog back
Speaker 1: between the routes, you take a two minute break, you
Speaker 1: go to the other side. You run ten routes, and
Speaker 1: leading up to training camp, you would work your way
Speaker 1: up to five sets of metabolics fifty routes. So fifty
Speaker 1: throws for me, fifty routes for him. So I get
Speaker 1: up to Valley Ranch to practice field. It's still literally
Speaker 1: a hundred degrees out, and Michael Irvan's waiting there for me.
Speaker 1: He's got his shoulder pads on, he's got a weighted
Speaker 1: vest on, he's got a weighted girdle, he's got his
Speaker 1: helmet on, and that old Walter Peyton mouthpiece that he
Speaker 1: used to wear. He's already warmed up. He's ready to go,
Speaker 1: as like read you're ready. And so we had thrown
Speaker 1: up balls through the year. Is that we really didn't
Speaker 1: even have to talk to each other. We knew what
Speaker 1: was next. And so I dropped back boom. I dropped boom,
Speaker 1: boom boom. There's his ten routes. He sucked down two gatorades,
Speaker 1: go to the other side, do it again. And all
Speaker 1: the while he's running the routes full speed, he's jogging back.
Speaker 1: He's trying to get ready to be great. And so
Speaker 1: he does this one set, two sets, three sets. I'm throwing.
Speaker 1: I'm dropping back. It's not that hard for me. He's
Speaker 1: running the routes, finishing the routes, doing the whole deal.
Speaker 1: Fourth set, fifth set, we finish up. He's running nine
Speaker 1: route to go route down the field and he's jogging
Speaker 1: back and I just shook my head. It's a hundred
Speaker 1: degrees at seven thirty on a Sunday night on July twelve.
Speaker 1: I said, if you want to be great, you want
Speaker 1: to be a Hall of Famer, this is what you
Speaker 1: gotta do. As I see this guy come back and
Speaker 1: his shoulder pads, his helmet, his mouthpiece, has weighted vests,
Speaker 1: weighted girdle, like wow, this is what it takes. And
Speaker 1: for all of Michael Irvan's craziness, his teammates saw this
Speaker 1: every day and that's why he was so well respected.
Speaker 1: The best teammate any has ever had. I was hoping
Speaker 1: for a different kind of Michael Irving story. But that's okay.
Speaker 1: I'll give you the greatest Michael Irving line. He was
Speaker 1: getting into trouble a little bit once, and uh, I
Speaker 1: don't want to get into the specifics of what it was,
Speaker 1: but he once told Jerry Jones, boss man, I was
Speaker 1: just trying to do the wrong thing the right way.
Speaker 1: That's also his greatness. Oh, I'm just trying to do
Speaker 1: the wrong thing the right way. Oh that's good. Hey,
Speaker 1: have fun, good luck this year. Yeah, thanks so much,
Speaker 1: great saying thank you, Bud. That's Jason Garrett Football Football
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Speaker 1: Redeem rewards terms apply. Yes, Todd Shay and Irving is
Speaker 1: in the line, not thrilled that we hadn't appears by
Speaker 1: the Ginger moments ago. Oh the return of Shay in Irving. Wait,
Speaker 1: what's the problem, Danny. Oh boy, I gotta actually give
Speaker 1: you some credit. This is why you're the best interviewer
Speaker 1: in the game. Somehow, some way, you got honesty out
Speaker 1: of a soulless man. He's never worked a day in
Speaker 1: his life, Danny, not a day, got a single day.
Speaker 1: I know you're taking it literally like he said, he
Speaker 1: I think it was his dream job. Therefore he didn't
Speaker 1: work a day of his life. Danny. This is a
Speaker 1: man who's got no fear of hell and no chance
Speaker 1: of heaven. It's a dangerous man. But that's you. That's
Speaker 1: you first. That's whoa whoa Danny, not a Ginger here.
Speaker 1: But you're talking about heaven and hell, and I think
Speaker 1: it starts with you. No, I'm talking about him not
Speaker 1: having a soul and not being to be able to
Speaker 1: participate in the afterlife. Okay, here's the thing. We've moved
Speaker 1: on from him being the Cowboys head coach. The definition
Speaker 1: of failing upwards is what we're witnessing. Failing upwards. Do
Speaker 1: you like Mike McCarthy? No? Who does Jerry? No? Jerry
Speaker 1: likes control in people, and that's why he hired a
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, and that's why he hired the ginger. He's
Speaker 1: the puppet master. We all know this, Danny. Aren't you
Speaker 1: excited about the upcoming season? No, I'm petrified. I'm scared
Speaker 1: of death. Thank goodness, we got Anthony Barrn not a receiver.
Speaker 1: That was great. By the way, way to go cart,
Speaker 1: I mean, good lord, But it's early, it's early. It's
Speaker 1: never too early for paying, Danny. Are you okay with
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham maybe coming to the Cowboys. Absolutely, he'll be cheap.
Speaker 1: Let's go, um, what's the are you going with? The
Speaker 1: over or the under? For the Cowboys? Wind total this year? Under? Under?
Speaker 1: It's always gonna be under, Danny. We got demonstrably worse.
Speaker 1: We got worse. That's a fact. We signed a jump
Speaker 1: and leap guy, Michael Gallup with no trust in his knees,
Speaker 1: like I make no fit. None of it does. Well.
Speaker 1: Thanks for calling in. It's always great to hear from you.
Speaker 1: Stay in touch. In touch. That's Shay and Irving. Oh
Speaker 1: the hibernation is over. Yes, yeah, I corresponded with him occasionally.
Speaker 1: Just see how he's doing one. He's got three daughters
Speaker 1: at home. Can you imagine that guy with three daughters.
Speaker 1: He sent me a picture of his youngest oneing, Danny,
Speaker 1: it's over. He just sent me a video of her
Speaker 1: like at the breakfast table, Danny, it's over. I'm like, yes,
Speaker 1: it is more ways than one. A couple of phone
Speaker 1: calls in here Bub in Illinois, Hi, Bub, what's on
Speaker 1: your mind the morning? Gentlemen six one, trying to get
Speaker 1: down to my birthwaate. I got a question about the
Speaker 1: about the Big Ten. How did they get their tentacles
Speaker 1: into Texas if they want to? My only thoughts are
Speaker 1: SMU which is in Dallas Fort Worth, right, or Texas Tech.
Speaker 1: I don't think they can get to Florida with that
Speaker 1: SEC power down there, and Notre Dame. It is time
Speaker 1: for them to do whatever, get off their golden pot
Speaker 1: and they're going to be can regardless. It feels like that.
Speaker 1: It feels like that. But the SEC wants to take
Speaker 1: care of the entire South, the entire southeast and wrap
Speaker 1: up Florida. You know, you have Florida, and you have
Speaker 1: Florida State and I'm told central Florida. If if they
Speaker 1: start to expand even further and you have Miami. But
Speaker 1: I was told that Big ten could look at North Carolina,
Speaker 1: NC State North Carolina. Does somebody get Georgia Tech just
Speaker 1: to get into Georgia. It's it's all. It's like playing
Speaker 1: the game of risk, and you just roll the dice
Speaker 1: and keep moving your army in and taken over and
Speaker 1: taken over and taken over. And then maybe we're left
Speaker 1: with three conferences when it's all said and done, maybe
Speaker 1: it's just two and it's divided by you know, the
Speaker 1: AFC and the NFC. That's the model they're going on
Speaker 1: the NFL. Jeff in Pennsylvania, Hey Jeff, Hey dan Ben,
Speaker 1: been listening as far back as I can remember. Still
Speaker 1: can't forget the April Fools bit with you and DIDs
Speaker 1: from the Mothership. But I have a really quick best
Speaker 1: and worst of the NFL offseason and a surprise pie
Speaker 1: to the face bet for one of the Dannettes. My
Speaker 1: best and worse will kind of give it away being
Speaker 1: a Raiders fan. The by far the best of the
Speaker 1: off season with the was the Bronchos Stadium caught on fire.
Speaker 1: The worst it was put out okay, and we got
Speaker 1: about twenty seconds for your surprise pie to the faith.
Speaker 1: All right. Unfortunately Richies and stole the Raiders v. Bronchos
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, so let's go with the Broncos will finish
Speaker 1: last in the ASC West for a surprise pie to
Speaker 1: the face. I think with Fritzie's anxieties, that would be
Speaker 1: what everyone would want to see. Fritzie, do you want
Speaker 1: a pie to the face? Bet with Jeff, Let's do it.
Speaker 1: I think they'll get at least third place Denver, all right,
Speaker 1: Final hour coming up? Oh, Rebecca Lowe, the host of
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