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Speaker 1: And boys, this week we are filming Our Futures. You

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Speaker 1: It's big time. I believe it's Ireland correct a week zero,

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Speaker 3: He's the best college football head in America.

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Speaker 1: People are starting to whisper. People are starting to do

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Speaker 1: What does potential mean? Will potential.

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Speaker 1: Potential is you see where you could go. Now it's

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Speaker 3: Potential is the capacity to develop, succeed, or become something

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Speaker 1: In the future building blocks. Matt rule all those boys

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Speaker 1: The rest of the world will now find out. Coming

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Speaker 1: August twenty eighth, when Cincinnati takes on Nebraska. Cincinnati home

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Speaker 2: In that first game?

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Speaker 1: For you will an ass whooping an ass whooping sixty

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Speaker 3: Out on Thursday night, a week from Thursday. I was

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Speaker 1: Everyone's a champion right now.

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Speaker 3: Everyone has a lot to be optimistic about. Uh, well,

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Speaker 1: Ain't nobody ready for a middle road season, even the

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Speaker 3: I don't know, hang on, time out, time out. Does

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Speaker 3: everybody here have high expectations for their team this year?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, Jack, you do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 1: We have like one of the easier schedules in all

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Speaker 3: They do play in the SEC as well. They do

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Speaker 3: SEC has more depth than the Big Ten. This is

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Speaker 1: This is a catastrophicpon.

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Speaker 1: But as far as depth goes, but SEC has more depth.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to the commission We'll get his opinion. We'll

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Speaker 1: You see the parlay. I saw the parlay. Did you

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Speaker 1: see my comments under your parlay, because then you would

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Speaker 1: have known I saw your parlay. That was incredible.

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Speaker 2: That was it? Was it plus five night nine?

468
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Speaker 3: Yeah, lost the first one out of the gate, first leg.

469
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Speaker 3: God shook dead immediately, would you do? Got back in

470
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Speaker 3: the fight, got back back in the ring. Four legger

471
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Speaker 3: in credit to obviously Clay Matthews, somebody you know before

472
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Speaker 3: the fight start, Hey, who you liking?

473
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Speaker 1: What are you feeling? What's the parlay? Who's got we swinging? Yeah?

474
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Speaker 3: And he gave me that five legger. We died right away,

475
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Speaker 3: but we got back in it, and look we turned

476
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Speaker 3: it around. Came out on top. Coms out, dude, hamzat,

477
00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 3: coms out, whatever you want to call, whatever you want

478
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Speaker 3: to call that motherfucker dog is insane. I love it.

479
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: Did you watch the fight?

480
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 3: No?

481
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: I fell asleep. I fell asleep. So I was just

482
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Speaker 2: hoping for you to a little bit.

483
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so Comza comes out? Is that how you say

484
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Speaker 3: the is it? Hamza Hamza hamzad and drickis Yeah.

485
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Speaker 2: There were comments on the YouTube that people are making fun.

486
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Speaker 3: Of They were on my ass for saying Driscus, which

487
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Speaker 3: I understand.

488
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Speaker 2: But.

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Speaker 3: Buddy, this fucking performance by Hamzad like stink on ship.

490
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 3: Bro I'm saying, the dude is smiling right when Bruce

491
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Speaker 3: Buffer does his thing. They get to the middle, Hamzad

492
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Speaker 3: is like ready to go, and so is Drickis. He's

493
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Speaker 3: ready to go defend his belt again. Hell of a fighter.

494
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Speaker 3: Drickis is a stud and Hamzad is sitting on the

495
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Speaker 3: other side and they're both kind of crouched down, and

496
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Speaker 3: Hamza's just smiling knowing that he's gonna run through this

497
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Speaker 3: cat and every round because it went all five within

498
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Speaker 3: thirty seconds. And I'm saying thirty seconds because in round

499
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Speaker 3: four it took hams out thirty seconds, but within like

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Speaker 3: fifteen seconds. Every round, Hamzad's got this motherfucker on the ground,

501
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 3: punishing him, just just going after him. I'm just smothering him,

502
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 3: dominating him, doing whatever he wanted to him. Was trying

503
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 3: to like, was trying to progress, and he crucified this

504
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 3: man like five times. Do you know what a crucifix is?

505
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Jesus died one, Yeah, what Jesus died? Yeah?

506
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 3: But he's got, he's got drikis where he's like laid

507
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Speaker 3: out over his body. He's controlling one arm in landing

508
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 3: shots with his left hand, and his other arm is

509
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 3: between Hamza's legs where he's got him crucified out on

510
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Speaker 3: the map. He did that to him four or five times.

511
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Speaker 3: Did you watch it, Jp? You were at the that's

512
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Speaker 3: where you had the wedding. Did anybody else watch this

513
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Speaker 3: fight anniversary?

514
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Speaker 2: Fuck?

515
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Speaker 1: It's okay, keep going, keep going, don't let that, don't

516
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Speaker 1: let the derail you that you forgot.

517
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Speaker 3: I want some It's like I want to play off

518
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Speaker 3: somebody in here to just how dominating of a performance.

519
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 3: This was a lot of people thought the fight was boring.

520
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: I like to those minds that want excitement and one

521
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 3: action the whole time. I can understand why I was boring,

522
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 3: because again, Hamsat's taking him down every round and just

523
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 3: smothering this guy. But it's all like JP knows what

524
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 3: I'm talking about. What positioning in MMA is everything, and

525
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 3: Drinkis is a hell of a fighter. So a lot

526
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Speaker 3: of the times Hamsat's smothering him and not giving him

527
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Speaker 3: a lot of space, and Drinkis is doing a good

528
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 3: job of staying close to him because he knows he's

529
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 3: in fucking trouble with this motherfucker. Yeah, so I can

530
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Speaker 3: see where he's boring. But the wrestling clinic and masterclass

531
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Speaker 3: that Hamsa put on is insane to me. This is

532
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 3: it's it's when people talk about wrestlers coming in and

533
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 3: being able to dominate a match, but usually the skill

534
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 3: level has gotten so good in the UFC to where

535
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 3: wrestling is not the is not the end all be all.

536
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 3: Like everybody's got skill set in Brazilian jiu jitsu, Taekwondell

537
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 3: fuck and all the different mixed martial arts, and they

538
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 3: got black belts and everything, and so these guys are

539
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 3: able to their takedown defense is really good to where

540
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 3: they can either keep them on their feet or they're

541
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 3: very good on the ground. This dude, Hamzat is like

542
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 3: it's like back to when MMA was starting to blow

543
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 3: up and wrestlers were dominating it. Homsad is like it's

544
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 3: like swinging that way in his weight class with this

545
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 3: individual because he is so fucking good at wrestling. I'm

546
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: saying every time after the third round, Drakes is sitting

547
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Speaker 3: over there in his corner and I'm just like, at

548
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 3: this point, what do you even say to this man

549
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 3: other than I don't know what to fucking do. Like

550
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 3: the dude's gonna say fight and he's gonna come out.

551
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 3: He's taking my ass down no matter what I do.

552
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 3: And Drakes is like trying to keep his lies and

553
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 3: trying to find his shots. But he gets one flinch

554
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 3: and boom double he's on his ass again. And he's

555
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 3: so strong he gets him there. Look at this crazy

556
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 3: like he's so good and strong that he truly couldn't

557
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 3: do anything.

558
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're this guy, you got to post

559
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: that just for the just for the meat pick, like

560
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: that's a that's a nice bull you boys got on there.

561
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: But he's just getting tossed around the yard the whole time,

562
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Speaker 2: the whole time.

563
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 3: How many a time, how many takedowns, how many takedowns

564
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 3: were attempted? I want to say there was one that

565
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 3: Drick has fought off one time. But Hamza white on

566
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 3: Rice got.

567
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 2: On his ass again.

568
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 3: Yesstily going and so strong to where Hamzat's extended on

569
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Speaker 3: the double lake and he's got a fighting chance to

570
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 3: scramble and get out of it and make it interesting.

571
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: But again the strength of this motherfucker is crazy.

572
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: This post has control time was twenty one minutes forty seconds,

573
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 2: twelve takedowns, five hundred and twenty nine strikes.

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Speaker 3: Well say that control time again.

575
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 2: Twenty one minutes, forty seconds.

576
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: Twenty almost twenty two minutes of control time out of

577
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Speaker 1: the twenty five that they fought. That's fucking wild.

578
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Speaker 3: Like if him just being on top of him and

579
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 3: again it's like you wanted to see him. He got

580
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 3: him full mounted once. But dricis again he's he's the

581
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,719
Speaker 3: fucking defending champion. He's defended his belt. He's a great fighter.

582
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 3: He had him, he had him, Hamzat mounted him, and

583
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 3: Dricus got out of it. He was getting out of

584
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 3: situations where it was getting dangerous for him. But as

585
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: far as like getting out of the control of this

586
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: psychotic yeah, Augistanian, I don't fucking know, dude, different fucking.

587
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Speaker 6: Sounds like him and bow Nickel need to have a

588
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 6: good old fashioned wrestling match.

589
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 3: And Hamzat, I think will control this man anybody again,

590
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: It's like there when there's a good wrestler in fighting.

591
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 3: Fighting has gotten so good to ward. Takedown defens is

592
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 3: a lot better. You're standing on your feet. The wrestler's

593
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 3: got to learn how to strike.

594
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: Uh.

595
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 3: The guys who are not wrestlers, they're very good on

596
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 3: the ground or they might have you know, they might

597
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 3: be very comfortable in their back. This dude is different.

598
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 3: It's Dagistan dude, and people are talking about like, oh,

599
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 3: he just laid on him like hams out the entire

600
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 3: times trying to work for better positioning, like you know,

601
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: get trap his knee down on his elbow to to

602
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 3: try to reposition and get maybe in a better mount position,

603
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: get him into a better like what is it called

604
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 3: when on the side the not the side guard, but

605
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 3: a side mount, side mount. The whole crucifix thing. It's

606
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: like DC Daniel Cormier was doing a great job of

607
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 3: basically the entire time trying to educate everybody on like, Okay,

608
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 3: here's how you can have a better crucifix having his

609
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 3: knee right above his elbow, because the whole time he

610
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 3: was crucifixing him, he had it in between his legs,

611
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: so he couldn't get that position to where says he's

612
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 3: got it between his legs. He's just got these little

613
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: shot stories just pointing him and that's where it's boring

614
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 3: because Hamzaut wasn't able to like keep his elbow on

615
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 3: the ground because Drick is obviously held a fighter wasn't

616
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: allowing him to. But if he was able to pin

617
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 3: his elbow on the ground, he's able to drop bows,

618
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 3: He's able to land shots on him.

619
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, more catastrophic.

620
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, stuff that people would like to see. Yeah, more catastrophe.

621
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 3: More catastrophe in this fight. Catastrophe, every catastrophe everywhere.

622
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

623
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Speaker 3: But uh, it was like I was just in all

624
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 3: watching the entire fight, watching how dominating of a performance

625
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 3: this was from somebody who wasn't the champion going for

626
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 3: the belt and was just having his way doing whatever

627
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 3: he wanted with drinkas Jesus Christ. So he's gonna be

628
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: champed for a while, I think.

629
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Speaker 6: So he just has to the only problem with him

630
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 6: going into it was like his health. You seem like

631
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 6: because he got sick, he had to like retire for

632
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 6: a little bit. Some of the weight cuts are giving

633
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 6: him issues. So if he can dial that in, sounds

634
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 6: like there might not go anywhere. There might not be

635
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 6: another human being.

636
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 3: May JP when we get off the bus, you need

637
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 3: to go drop on YouTube and just watch that fight.

638
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 6: It was like, were you trying to give examples? I

639
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 6: see you got the bruise on your knee.

640
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 3: That's that's your boy was tubing over the weekend tube

641
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 3: a couple I almost told my goddamn labor, you forget, uh,

642
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 3: you forget what tuban can do to your body, like

643
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 3: when you get extended like this and you're trying to

644
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 3: like hang on and you fall off and just I

645
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 3: fucking almost lost.

646
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: My entire arm. You've had that whole thing stsch up,

647
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: haven't you.

648
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, twelve anchors all the way around. Twelve anchors o'clock

649
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: looks like twelve to twelve. That's how much damage was

650
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: in my shoulder.

651
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: Got to fix back in college.

652
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 3: But I was always I was, Yeah, I was always

653
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 3: it was a decent little psychopath on the tube growing up.

654
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the two barrels the tube is like

655
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: boys to men, like how willing are you if you're

656
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: willing to put the thumb up for the extra speed

657
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: on the tube? Yeah, if you're willing to keep that

658
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: thumb up, but like slide me to the side of

659
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: the boat because ay and also tubes have hit a

660
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: new level of science the way these things. You see

661
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: the ones that get airborne. Now they have like a

662
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: little if you get a boat going fast up and

663
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: actually there's ones that will go like ten feet in

664
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: the air and you're like a damn kite. So boats

665
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: and tubes have gotten better. Boats and tubes are now crushing.

666
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 3: This was a little more difficult. Mich Michigan speak to

667
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 3: it too. This one had it was a doughnut tube,

668
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: so it's like a bigger and it had it had

669
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: a you know, I had the circle cut in the middle.

670
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 3: It seems like you had a that was a flat tube. Yeah,

671
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: with the wings. That's a fun one right there.

672
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, me and me and my buddy Gabe got got launched.

673
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: But we need to go the boys need to get

674
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: on a boat and go tube.

675
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: Go tube.

676
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: Gotta get tube. He doesn't like the idea of tube.

677
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: And see I'm trying to get it is like I

678
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: got off the tube and I was just reminded of like, yeah,

679
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: this isn't who's driving the boat when you're tube not

680
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: young again. We use this cat shout out seth. But

681
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 3: there's an app called like get my Boat or.

682
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: Something like that. Yeah, to where you can you know,

683
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: you just pop on there.

684
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 3: You find a boat that you want, you have the

685
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 3: not the pilot, the captain. And he had all the

686
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: bells and whistles.

687
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: He had a little wakeboard for surfing.

688
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 3: Uh, he had the tube. He had skis if you

689
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: wanted a water ski, he had all of it. We

690
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 3: just ripped around for like I think it.

691
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: Was four hours. I think. So you know you know

692
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: what it is, you'll just put it in the GPS.

693
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: Man and just shows up, shows up right apart what

694
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: you're told.

695
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 3: Man, no doubt.

696
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: Preach kid, preach, where.

697
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 3: Are we going today? Put in the maps, the maps.

698
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: Just blind driving man, this out there ripping around when

699
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: you're tubing. Who's the captain of your ship? Seth oh,

700
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: seth so seths the guy he just goes on.

701
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 3: Your captain shows up. He had a beautiful, beautiful truck.

702
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: I complimented on the on the truck platinum hmmm.

703
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: And uh yeah.

704
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: He had this little this little boat, this speedboat, whatever

705
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: the hell kind of boat it is. And he just

706
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 3: took us out, took us down on the water for

707
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 3: like four hours.

708
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: I would love to get a bustle with the boys tube.

709
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: But the thought of like I picture you and me

710
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: on the tube and then these boys behind the helm.

711
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: We're not living, we're not getting we're not gonna make

712
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: it out.

713
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we'll start.

714
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: Hitting with the thumbs down.

715
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: You got to slow down, and then you feel it

716
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: going up a little bit.

717
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: What'd you say, Jackson laughing us off his little his phone.

718
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: We're just moving around getting tossed.

719
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: Not in reality.

720
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 7: I think I'm probably the only one who's legally allowed

721
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 7: to drive this boat because in Tennessee after nineteen ninety eight,

722
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 7: you have to have a boater's license, really, and I

723
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 7: have one, but I would fuck your shit up.

724
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

725
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 7: But that's just that's generational because that's how dads do

726
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 7: That's how my dad did it. It's like, yeah, yeah,

727
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 7: if you're not throwing guys around, then it's like, what

728
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 7: are we doing.

729
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 3: That's a Southern boys bar for a little bit, and

730
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 3: you're like, Okay, they got it, they got a decent

731
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 3: let's crank it up on them.

732
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 7: I will say, though they're feeling a little too confident

733
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 7: bat if YouTube. After the age of like let's say

734
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 7: like twenty three, twenty four, you realize how sore your

735
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 7: body is.

736
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, it's no shiit same tubed in a minute.

737
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 2: It's not got it too that grip strength too.

738
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, that crazy man will be in shambles for the

739
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 7: next few days.

740
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, my buddy he had a boat. What the what

741
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: is this? I thought that was Mitch. My buddy had

742
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: a boat and it was like one of those tubes,

743
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: but I had like a back to it, like a couch,

744
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: So me and like two of my buddies would sit

745
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 1: there and kind of it was kind of just nice.

746
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: But then then then the dad would kind of be

747
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: like they've been on this for too long, yeah.

748
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 3: And would just rip us around. Good r I P

749
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: P J.

750
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 2: Man, he would fuck us up on that tube.

751
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:12,959
Speaker 7: Is he dead?

752
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? I said, man, I think that's it. Yeah. So

753
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 2: ours was ours was blue. Ours was blue.

754
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: Those ones get lost and you. I haven't been on

755
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 3: one of those, but I feel like you feel vulnerable

756
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 3: hitting the.

757
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: Turn, just sitting up, getting moved around.

758
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: God.

759
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 3: I told Seth too before. He's like, you feel pretty

760
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 3: confident tube, And I said, I used to double back

761
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 3: in the day.

762
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: Go ahead, you can rip it up a little bit. Yeah.

763
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: He kind of got me off on.

764
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 3: The first the first big turn and uh, he drove

765
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 3: back over. I was like, all right, yeah, I've lost

766
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 3: a step.

767
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: To me.

768
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, like it's it's Charlie, it's her family.

769
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: Like what am I gonna What am I gonna do? Yeah,

770
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 1: rude Charlie. Charlie tube was rude.

771
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 3: But again it was like a we had like a

772
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 3: donut tube. So I felt a little too big, like

773
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: rubbing like below me. I just didn't feel comfortable like

774
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: trying to maneuver my own body around her.

775
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which.

776
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: Is tough because it's like, you know, yeah, like you

777
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 3: can you can hit the side a little bit, but

778
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 3: when you're held on the straight away, you know how

779
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 3: you like to just kind of like lay on your

780
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 3: stomach to let your your arm strength like regain its rest,

781
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 3: like give your grip a little rest. And when you

782
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 3: have the hole cut out in the middle, it's kind

783
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 3: of just hard to hard to get comfortable. Then when

784
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: you're climbing up, it's like you've got to balance on

785
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 3: that tube part versus just being on a flat tube.

786
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 3: You can just get up on your knees and you're

787
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 3: engaging core. How do you get some rest?

788
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you get some rest? That looks fun? Yeah,

789
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: that see that that that'll fuck us up.

790
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 3: That's a squad one.

791
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: That's like the thing, you know, the thing that the

792
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: park as a kid, where it was like the big

793
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: circle and you'd sit in it and then you'd spin

794
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: the middle of the wheel and then kids the velocity

795
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: would just take the kids out. One is that a

796
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: Merry go round, But it's like the it's like this,

797
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: it's like a blue thing and it has seats and

798
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: then there's a pole in the middle with like a

799
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: disc and you rotate the disc and it.

800
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 3: Rotates all the kids.

801
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: Then everyone's like you could hold on the longest and

802
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: then it always goes so fast. At the smallest kid,

803
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: you know, he just gets just sacrificed like a lamb,

804
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: Like he just shoots out five six feet.

805
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 3: We'd be doing that with just a regular you know, saucer.

806
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: One where it's just got the rail in there and

807
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 3: you just got to hold onto the rail and somebody's

808
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 3: just psychotically spinning and you're just like hanging on.

809
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 1: To the rail.

810
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

811
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: You see the ones where they take like a they

812
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 1: get like a quad and they get like a string

813
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: and tie it to it and then they just take

814
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: off and you see the people just get ripped out

815
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: of there. That shit is that sh it's too much?

816
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,479
Speaker 1: Do we have we have big news. I have redemption coming.

817
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: If you're watching this on Tuesday today Kansas City, I'm

818
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: throwing out the first pitch to Will Compton. Big redemption

819
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 1: are fans at FanDuel. They're giving away ten thousand dollars

820
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: in bonus bets. Ten thousand dollars in bonus bets, truly

821
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: on if I have a catchable or not catchable throw,

822
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: which is hilarious and disrespectful all at the same time,

823
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: because a lot of people would be like striker ball,

824
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: we can kind of assume it's gonna be a ball.

825
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: It's really how much does Will have to move his

826
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: body with that tight back to catch the ball?

827
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: That I think?

828
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: Do we know that for sure? I believe yes, I

829
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 1: don't I can ever say for sure. No guarantees.

830
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 3: You have to figure out the rules.

831
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: My unders catchable or not catchable?

832
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, given away, Yeah, ten thousand dollars in bonus bets.

833
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 3: So you picked the boy throws catchable ball or not.

834
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now, go ahead and bet catchable.

835
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: I've been putting in some work I've been getting after it.

836
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 1: It seems like every damn day. I bug you every

837
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: single day when we're in the office. Let's go get

838
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: a game of catch in. Even Will's in the middle

839
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: of working, he's doing before the dad stuff. He's got

840
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: his note pad out, he's playing on his iPad, and

841
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, I need you to come out and

842
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: get this me real quick. So we're putting in the work.

843
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: We've done some meditating, we does some visualization. I think

844
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: this fuck it this week literally happens tomorrow. But maybe

845
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 1: tomorrow before we go, we go get on a diamond

846
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: real quick. You know what, fuck it, We're not doing that.

847
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: I'm going in. I'm a raw dog in this grip

848
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: and rip. It's time.

849
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hay's in the barn. Get a couple of good

850
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: ones this afternoon. Five to ten throws. Just feel it,

851
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: just feel it, put it in there and let's make

852
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: a catch able ball.

853
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 3: The Hayes not in the bar until you get out there.

854
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: The work is well. When yeah, when you go to

855
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: play a football game, you still got to play the game.

856
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 3: But Hayes the barn.

857
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 1: Goes.

858
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 3: Will we talket the preparation again. It's like, we got

859
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: to get there early so you can feel the stadium.

860
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: There's still some work to be done there. Yeah, but

861
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: do when I go home? Am I out there playing

862
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: with my kids right now? No, I'm I'm icing my shoulder.

863
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: I'm sitting criss cross Apple Sauce in the corner of

864
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 1: our house. I got meditation music going. I'm doing deep breaths.

865
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: That's what's happening when I'm at home, right My.

866
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: Kids know Daddy's got to make things right. Yes, I've

867
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: dishonored their name and it's time to make it right.

868
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: Ten thousand dollars bonus bets. We will have more details

869
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 1: on that follow us. On socials busting WTB Taylor Lawan

870
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: seventy seven underscore w. Compton fifty one, is that it.

871
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: No underscore, will Compton underscore.

872
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: Will Compton all socials. So that's what we got going on.

873
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: That's what we got going on. Delaney will be with us,

874
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: Delany's coming. Gotta have Delaney out there. Yeah, which also

875
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: I played catch at Delaney last week, and I think

876
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: he'd have trouble on the mount and just catching in general,

877
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: him holding the glove in his hand just seemed like

878
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: very unnatural for him. He was looking awkward out there.

879
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: He was looking a little awkward out there, and that's

880
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: coming from me. That's coming from me in the light

881
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: of baseball. We have baseball jerseys BWTB dot com. Go

882
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: find those there. It says tier one in the back.

883
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 1: If you've watched any of the socials of me throwing

884
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: the ball, you see me wearing that jersey. Feel good,

885
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: look good, play good. That's what we are going there

886
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: at BWTV dot.

887
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 3: Com WTB the Live Show again. We will be in Linked,

888
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: Nebraska September nineteenth doing a live show before the big

889
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 3: game Ischig, Nebraska on September twentieth, but you can get

890
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: those tickets at BWTV dot com. It will be at

891
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 3: the Rococo Theater and Linked, Nebraska on Friday Night. Special guests, food, drinks,

892
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 3: fun banter, getting the juices flowing before giveaways, the trophy game,

893
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 3: the bust and Bowl.

894
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: God, a lot going on, man, a lot going on. Catastrophe.

895
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: There's so much more I want to talk about, but

896
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: I feel we should wait.

897
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 3: I know the college football, the football, So it's just

898
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 3: knowing that football's back just has us all so excited

899
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 3: and it's starting to you start to feel it like

900
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: when you're driving to work, when you're consuming your content.

901
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 3: Football is truly there's games getting played this weekend.

902
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, games getting paid this weekend. NFL. James Cook, he's

903
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: holding out a little bit of the Bills. He just

904
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: got paid forty eight million dollars. He's locks dot two

905
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: smoking barrels for the Bills to make that final push.

906
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 3: Get over the hump.

907
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson right now with the Bengals, he's saying, I

908
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: don't want to play for y'all anymore.

909
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: You got to pay me. I'm looking at Max Crosby.

910
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, TJ. Watt, I want that type of money.

911
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: Their first round pick goes from his holdout. He almost

912
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: went back to A and M. What's gonna happen with

913
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: the Bengals. Their defense wasn't great last year, but their

914
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: offense was amazing. Dude, It's an exciting time of year,

915
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: an exciting time.

916
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 3: So that Trey Hendrickson's on the Yeah, that's what we

917
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 3: were just.

918
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of teams. Yeah, there's a lot

919
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: of teams out there that so Will brought up a

920
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: good point. Trey Hendrickson, he's very upset. He wants to

921
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 1: get paid. He looks at Max Crosby, TJ Watt, Miles Garret,

922
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: He's like, I want to get paid that much. The

923
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: first round pick. He was at A and M thinking

924
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: about going back to college. But now he's back in

925
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: so really think is this a viable option? Get rid

926
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: of Trey Hendrickson. But now Trey Henderson. You got the

927
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: Cowboys calling, you got the Titans called, you got the

928
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: Raiders calling, You got a whole bunch of teams calling

929
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 1: saying we want this salty white cat on our team.

930
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 2: Did you about Trey Hendrickson?

931
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no. I think we should give a

932
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 3: shout out.

933
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: Did you hear that? Or see James Cook got a bag?

934
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 1: James Cook four years for the barrels.

935
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 2: They're looking to take the next step.

936
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: Get over the hump of the Super Bowl lockstot to

937
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 1: two smoking barrels. Those guys are ready to go out there.

938
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: Catastrophic intro Quins and Judkins.

939
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 3: What's going on with him?

940
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: He's expected to return. Prosecutors drop Quinn Shawn Judkins, Prosecutors

941
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: dropped Chargers Bank. He's ready to go. He's got no

942
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: criminal liability going on. Isaiah Bond. He just signed with

943
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: the Browns. They got Judkins also on the on the Browns,

944
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: so prosecutors drop him. Isaiah Bond, he's also at the Browns.

945
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: And meanwhile DeShawn walks and sitting in the background of

946
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: the Browns. They're just like, hey, eighties raiders.

947
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: Let's beat him.

948
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: Let's fucking beat him out here. They're doing what they're doing.

949
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel's comment, there's entertainers and competitors.

950
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 3: Man, he knows which one he is.

951
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it.

952
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: It's like, is that a shot or is he basically

953
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: just is he just talking about being a competitor.

954
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 6: I don't think it had anything to do with same

955
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 6: the media because.

956
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: When you when you see the quote, you think Shad,

957
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: but then you watch him talking and you're like, oh,

958
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: he's just talking about the world and like what he

959
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: he knows what his role is and he knows what

960
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: he has to do, right.

961
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 6: Because exactly because she was asking about how do you

962
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 6: handle like all the media pressure, whatever it is, and

963
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 6: I think he was saying, yeah, the media are whatever,

964
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 6: are trying to entertain people and we're like actually playing

965
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 6: the game. You had nothing to do with Shad.

966
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know how the internet is, man, I know, dude, dude.

967
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 1: The Browns are a fun team to watch this here.

968
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 6: That's a they got a great lawyer.

969
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:49,959
Speaker 1: Yeah they do, man, they really do.

970
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

971
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: Shadura out there, he's doing his thing. He's kind of

972
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: souncing the haters a little bit. Even if he doesn't

973
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: start at the beginning the year, it's probably gonna be

974
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco's job. Miles Garret, it's out there just walking.

975
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: Johnny Grays lit this piece flapping.

976
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 6: The wind Spencer the Saints, the game winning drives Spencer.

977
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: Kellen Morris sitting there with Kay Adams a couple of

978
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: days ago, still not willing to say who his starting

979
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: quarterback is.

980
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: So we got there's a lot going on.

981
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: NFC South is an odd it's an odd ball world.

982
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a Falcons. It's a Falcons division

983
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 1: this year.

984
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 3: I disagree.

985
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: I think it's Bucks.

986
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 3: Oh good point, good point, strong point. I think it's Bucks.

987
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: Hex takes a step. I could see the Penix taking

988
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: a step back.

989
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 3: I can see Pics taking a step step. But I

990
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 3: just think like the Bucks are the team to beat

991
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 3: in the South. Like I say, I think the Bucks

992
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 3: would be really good in the a f C in general.

993
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: Just yeah, especially if they ever went to the a

994
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: f C. Yeah, did I say AFC or NFC? Yeah,

995
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: you're oh yeah, Trey Henderson, he wants to go. Did

996
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: y'all see our local Atlanta news?

997
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 7: Did penis so dirty?

998
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:56,959
Speaker 2: Crazy troll?

999
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? It has been in headlines. Dick jokes have been

1000
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: a big head lines in the past week, So shout

1001
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: out Atlanta getting.

1002
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 3: In on that.

1003
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: You guys, well, you see guys up to It's a

1004
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: copycat league, man, it's a copycat league.

1005
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 3: JP had a dig joke on Twitter.

1006
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and I loved the first comment was so pure.

1007
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 6: They're like, this reminds me of that nerve football. I'm like, yeah, okay, exactly.

1008
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: That was insane, nice looking peace.

1009
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: I wish I saw this cloud piece. I wish I

1010
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 2: saw it.

1011
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I put a date on it.

1012
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: Alright, that's good. That's good.

1013
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: Should have been.

1014
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 3: There'll be another one DNS yesterday. Yeah, congratulations, man, dude.

1015
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 6: Somebody sent me a video of the Thank you.

1016
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: Somebody sent me.

1017
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 6: A video of the relay of like a longer video

1018
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 6: of the pool relay, which I hadn't seen before on

1019
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 6: release footage Wow.

1020
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 3: Really luckily, luckily.

1021
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 6: For you they started it after that first leg.

1022
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 3: Okay, buddy, actually you might still be in the water.

1023
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 6: I think I might be out. Yeah, but yeah, no,

1024
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 6: it was fun. We were down in Florida and it

1025
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 6: was the sunsets out there. Dude, we freaking we're three

1026
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 6: for three.

1027
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 1: It was it was that your drone.

1028
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, the birds flying across you cannot. I meant it

1029
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 6: truly left us both speech us when you because you

1030
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 6: see it a little bit on your screen when you're

1031
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 6: filming it, But then when you go back and actually

1032
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 6: look at the footage, you're like, we'll never never gonna.

1033
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: Be able to top this.

1034
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 6: God, God, one year it goes by fast, goes by fast.

1035
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

1036
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: It's crazy how fast that the whole thing goes It's

1037
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: wild that just a year ago, you guys are doing

1038
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: a pool party and I was driving ten hours to

1039
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: a wedding to spend four hours and now look at us, huh, all.

1040
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 6: For nothing to just because you got back and they

1041
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 6: they got delayed.

1042
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.

1043
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 6: We needed we need to take it out on them.

1044
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, did he think you.

1045
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: Think what.

1046
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 2: He should just enter? Let him come in.

1047
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's just get him on the bus.

1048
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 1: Get bay News. Probably Baye not for the public right now,

1049
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: but we have a massive guest locked in for this Thursday,

1050
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: locked in for this Thursday, and they will be coming

1051
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: out the following week. Give you a hint, and it's

1052
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: not what you think.

1053
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Speaker 4: The King.

1054
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Speaker 1: Before we get paid on the bus, he's just walked

1070
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: on or just got to the shop. We did have

1071
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: a little small, a small get together at my house

1072
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: on Friday. JP was waiting to find out who won.

1073
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: We had to let you know the information. We played

1074
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: the game t yet again. If you've read applause with

1075
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: Mitch Carsley handling business nice taking me out of the.

1076
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 2: Championship with it, y'all two versus each other.

1077
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: It was Mitch first one. First one Mitch grabbed, no problem.

1078
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: The second one, Mitch was doing the thing where he

1079
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: jumps roll high in the air. So he did. I

1080
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: just see him right in the head on a highlight. Yeah,

1081
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: I trained. He tried a dunk on me, really, so

1082
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: I got I got his hippy. He went a crazy

1083
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: distance and I went and got that thing. And then

1084
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: the third one was very anti climactic. He saw it,

1085
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: he hunted it down like he'd seeking missile and took

1086
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: the championship. Yeah, I played fun. Oh yeah, it was awesome. Yeah.

1087
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Speaker 3: It might be a top it might be the top

1088
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 3: pool game. I mean, without really.

1089
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: Into it, it's like, when's the last time as an

1090
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,919
Speaker 1: adult you had that much fun playing a pool game.

1091
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: Obviously pulled basketball, pool, volleyball like those are tough to beat.

1092
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 3: But yeah, I feel like.

1093
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 6: I love that draining game.

1094
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: What's the drain game?

1095
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: Splash ballater bombs? You are right about that's hold on,

1096
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: fill me in a little bit.

1097
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 3: So what I was gonna say is all around, I

1098
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 3: think t is the best water game because you can

1099
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 3: kind of make that happen and whatever kind of pull

1100
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 3: you're in. Some of these games are circumstantial, which gutterball.

1101
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 3: If you have a pool, you got a big enough pool,

1102
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 3: usually it's had a public pool, but they got you

1103
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 3: know how, they got the gutters on the side, and

1104
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 3: you you take a splash ball and it's.

1105
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: Like two on two.

1106
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 3: You kind of figure out how how wide you can go,

1107
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 3: but you're trying to skip it into the gutter. So

1108
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 3: it's just offense defense. You're trying to make sick diving

1109
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 3: catches trying to skip it.

1110
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: Fun get the.

1111
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 3: Side arm going. Gutterball is a blast, bro. We got

1112
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 3: to get that dialed in. What you got someone to

1113
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 3: present to you, guys on the bus, present a very

1114
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 3: special guest.

1115
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: Ladies, gentlemen, Josh future Commissioner of College Football Josh pat

1116
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 1: Is on the bus. Some people say he is college football.

1117
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 3: Some people say he is college football.

1118
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: I got you what you got there, dude, je.

1119
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 2: Honestly, that's just meo caffeinated water. It's really what you

1120
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: drink it out of. That's probably the bigger deal. I've

1121
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 2: never let anyone else on box one of these things.

1122
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: What's it say you shouldn't have.

1123
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 3: Paid state Chalice of supremacy.

1124
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 2: That's the same stuff they make the crystal football out of.

1125
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 2: That's not true, but that looks like the same stuff

1126
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 2: they make the crystal football does.

1127
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: That's beautiful.

1128
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, So what does this mean? What does this mean

1129
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 3: for us? Are we part of like the Pate Illuminati?

1130
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 2: Honestly, you determined what it means for you. I hand

1131
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 2: out about fifteen twenty of those a year, mostly to

1132
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: family and friends. So we're gonna go backwards on this.

1133
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 2: So look, balls in your court now, My balls are

1134
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 2: in your court. You you kind of gave us a gift,

1135
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 2: you something in return, not necessarily today, but yeah, I

1136
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: mean I don't just give gifts and not expect some

1137
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 2: of you.

1138
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, you never do something for somebody, just have

1139
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: the kindness of your heart.

1140
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. Absolutely, Charity is one of the best businesses

1141
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 2: to be in. I think we all know that it's

1142
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 2: very profitable.

1143
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 1: And I will say, we knew you'd probably bring gifts,

1144
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: so we brought you something as well. Okay, you want

1145
00:52:59,080 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: to see it now?

1146
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think it'll determine the mood the rest

1147
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: of the day. Okay, Yeah, thanks buddy.

1148
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,960
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1158
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Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna meet that back in a little bit, dude,

1159
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 1: did it really?

1160
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 3: No way? We're on the bus, bro.

1161
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 2: It's really tough to do, yati, we are Your arms

1162
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: look incredible. Thank you.

1163
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: It seems like you have a great V going on

1164
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: as well.

1165
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 2: It's tough to accomplish, you know that.

1166
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I haven't accomplished.

1167
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 2: It, do you. You seem like you've got it the pump.

1168
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 2: If you have free time on your hands and you

1169
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,479
Speaker 2: just shop at G and C regularly enough, that's not hard.

1170
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 2: The V is tough in your twenties, it's not so tough.

1171
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: Google says I'm fifty five. I'm not fifty five years old.

1172
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 2: They've got me mixed up with that other Josh Pate.

1173
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 2: But I'm not twenty five either. So the V is

1174
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 2: it's a challenge. Are you willing to uh tell us

1175
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 2: how old you actually are? I'm in my thirties, okay,

1176
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 2: are we talking? We're talking thirty nine for the next

1177
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:22,919
Speaker 2: six months? Y yeah, not forty eight. Do you look good?

1178
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. For forty I appreciate it. Yeah. We

1179
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 2: got a little free time in the middle of the day.

1180
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 2: That's how we do it. Yeah, you got to work

1181
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 2: at five am and ten pm. Keep the middle of

1182
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 2: the day free. That's when the gem's empty, that's when

1183
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 2: the sun's out. That's how to prolong your life, like

1184
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 2: ten to fifteen years.

1185
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 3: Take it in, box it up, put it. What does

1186
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 3: for people that see that the pay state machine happening?

1187
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 3: What does a daily cadence look like for you on

1188
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 3: prepping for your shows? Because you rock live? How many

1189
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 3: times a week?

1190
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: Three?

1191
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 2: Three times a week?

1192
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 3: Three times a week? You rock live, I'm traveling all

1193
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 3: the time. You're also a married man, Like, what does

1194
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 3: a daily routine look like for Josh Paton? When you're

1195
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 3: firing on all cylinders?

1196
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 2: So we're doing so it's usually five a wake up.

1197
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 2: There's all the any kind of programming, any kind of

1198
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 2: like I like to watch a previous night show and

1199
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 2: grade it on a rubric, kind of like you were

1200
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 2: a great film the day after you played a football game.

1201
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: We got like a rubric where we kind of grade

1202
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 2: performance on air. Then there's the engagement stuff. Then you

1203
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 2: do a whole lot of media. In the morning, you'll

1204
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: do meetings in the morning. We will do show prep

1205
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 2: part one production meeting. Then we'll go to the gym.

1206
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 2: We'll get to the office for basically hardcore show prep

1207
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 2: from three PCE Central until show airs. Show airs at

1208
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 2: seventh Central POSTPROD that'll probably end nine thirty, go home

1209
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 2: ten thirty to elevens when you're trying to finish calls

1210
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: that you tried to make throughout the day and hopefully

1211
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: in bed by eleven up at what time? Five? Five?

1212
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: Which machine?

1213
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 2: Which is hard machine? Did you ever, like, did either

1214
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 2: one of you ever get conditioned to pre work out,

1215
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 2: get conditioned like morning workout?

1216
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 6: Oh?

1217
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you did it. Did you ever get to where

1218
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 2: you say this is not a problem for me? Because

1219
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 2: I never did?

1220
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 3: Like, get what do you mean? This is not a problem.

1221
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 2: I always feel sick. I feel sick if I have

1222
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,479
Speaker 2: to work out at five o'clock in the morning. I've

1223
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 2: done it, like for years playing sports. I did it,

1224
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 2: but I never got into a sweet spot with it,

1225
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 2: and so it surprises me that I'm able to like

1226
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 2: normally wake up like my dad used to do. I

1227
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: used to think my dad was a psychopath because he

1228
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 2: woke up at four forty five every morning on his own.

1229
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 2: And now I'm like that. But I never thought I

1230
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 2: would be a morning person. I was always stay up

1231
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 2: until two am, sleep until nine. And now it's totally inverted,

1232
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 2: which is good because you get the most work done

1233
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 2: in the morning.

1234
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 3: I feel like I've had to teach myself to get

1235
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 3: used to working out like in the afternoon or in

1236
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 3: the evening if I can't get.

1237
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: It done in the morning.

1238
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 3: So I feel like, if I don't get my work

1239
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 3: out done in the morning, I'm just behind on everything.

1240
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 3: I'll have a little bit more anxiety. So I would

1241
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 3: rather if I have to wake up earlier, like do

1242
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 3: whatever I have to in the morning before I get

1243
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 3: the day gone.

1244
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 2: Well, your gym's forty five feet away now too.

1245
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a fair point.

1246
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,919
Speaker 1: If that the thing that yeah, the morning work out

1247
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: to me, I am now training myself that we have

1248
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: the sore next gym at our shop. It's like, all right,

1249
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,479
Speaker 1: get the stuff done, do your little routine in the morning,

1250
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: and then once you get the bulk of your stuff done,

1251
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: take the forty five to an hour and get the

1252
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: work out and then But I'm very much like, wake

1253
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: up in the morning, have your disciplines or whatever you

1254
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: want to get done, and then start your day and

1255
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: it makes you feel good. But if you're waking up

1256
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: at five every single morning, I find myself Wednesday or

1257
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: Thursday finding that lull, finding that drag because I don't

1258
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: find a lot of times for naps.

1259
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 2: That's where the season matters, because in April there's nothing.

1260
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 2: There's no light at the tunnel at the end of

1261
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 2: the week, right, I mean unless you're going on vacation

1262
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 2: or something. That's why this time of year. Like, so

1263
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 2: we're sitting here talking week zero starts this weekend, then

1264
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 2: next weekend everyone will be playing, and I like, I

1265
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 2: call that season protocol. So someone out there is watching

1266
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,919
Speaker 2: this or listening to this, and there their Wednesday's gonna suck.

1267
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 2: And if your Wednesday sucks in March, your Wednesday just

1268
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 2: sucks in March. If your Wednesday sucks in October, you knowe,

1269
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 2: no matter how bad it gets today, I got Michigan

1270
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 2: kicking off. I got Nebraska kicking off, like seventy two

1271
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,439
Speaker 2: hours or ninety six hours. That's where that that whole key,

1272
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 2: it gets put in the ignition and it gets turned.

1273
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 2: How do you have a bad day in the fall.

1274
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: That It's true, there's always something to look forward to

1275
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: every single week. The hopes and dreams we were talking

1276
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: about on the intro, it's like, what do you like

1277
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: every week? There's something to look forward to.

1278
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 2: That's where people so casual fans who watch football if

1279
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 2: it's on at a bar or if they're at a

1280
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 2: buddy's house, they don't get that. But see, they'll make

1281
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: fun of people who are diehard sports fans, and I

1282
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 2: always like, I'm in on the joke with them, because

1283
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 2: the joke is on them, because you don't have this

1284
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 2: thing in your life that for six months out of

1285
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 2: the year makes everything that's bad during the week right

1286
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 2: because you have it to look forward to. What are

1287
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 2: you looking forward to if you don't have this in

1288
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 2: your life. I've got God in my life, I got

1289
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 2: family in my life, and then I got college football

1290
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 2: six months out of the year in my life. Even

1291
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 2: if you have the first two, what's filling the third void?

1292
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 2: There's three great voids in life. This up like some

1293
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 2: kind of monks said this at one point.

1294
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: He did sound like a modern philosophy.

1295
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, you're juicing me up because you're right.

1296
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 3: It's like God, selfless, family, selfless. But what's that selfish thing? Yeah,

1297
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 3: that's pushing you to the end of the week that

1298
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 3: you could just get giddy about.

1299
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 2: I don't know what else it is. I know it.

1300
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 2: People have other passions but I don't know what other

1301
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 2: thing that people really partake in. Like, I guess if

1302
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 2: you were a big fan of a musician, they're gonna

1303
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 2: come to your town one time out of the year.

1304
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 2: If you're a big like Marvel fan, their movie is

1305
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 2: gonna come out, and it's gonna come out one time

1306
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,439
Speaker 2: a year. We get this boom boom, boom boom every Saturday.

1307
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: Every they drop every weekend in the fall, and you

1308
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: know it's coming every single time.

1309
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 2: It's great.

1310
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: Talk to me about how the origin of college football

1311
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: love started for you, because when when you were here

1312
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, we started breaking down.

1313
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 3: You play a little bit of high school. You're more

1314
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 3: a baseball.

1315
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: Guy than you really didn't do anything in college, but

1316
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: you just found the love, and then you've obviously turned

1317
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: into the college football guru you are today.

1318
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. I grew up in it like I was immersed

1319
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: in it. So the stereotype about kids who grew up

1320
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 2: in the South like that was me. So it was

1321
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 2: no different than that. What I wondered for a long

1322
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 2: time is like, Okay, if I'm not going to play it,

1323
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 2: I don't look like I'm going to get a scholarship

1324
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 2: to Syracuse or Northwestern or one of those big journalism schools.

1325
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 2: So everyone I see on TV has one pretty much,

1326
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 2: or either they're a former player or former coach, and

1327
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 2: I'm none of those. So it looks like maybe I

1328
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 2: won't be able to do this for a living. So

1329
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna watch it and I'm gonna love it

1330
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 2: like all my buddies do. So then what was crazy?

1331
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 2: You guys have seen this just like I have twenty thirteen,

1332
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 2: fourteen fifteen rolls around. I've been doing radio for a

1333
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 2: little while. But like when I pulled up Facebook one

1334
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 2: day and someone was live streaming, or when I pulled

1335
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 2: up YouTube one day and someone was live streaming. I

1336
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 2: wasn't around for the Berlin Wall. But in our world,

1337
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 2: in my world, and the non former player, non former coach,

1338
01:00:55,440 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 2: non big journalism degree world, those were the Berlin coming

1339
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 2: down because overhead and distribution was the name of the game. Well,

1340
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 2: your overhead here is a bus that you tricked out,

1341
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: and your distribution is the Internet. And so once that

1342
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 2: became the two game changers in the space, I realized,

1343
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 2: oh wait, maybe I can, Like if I'm half good

1344
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 2: at it, maybe I can do that, you can truly

1345
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 2: bet on yourself at that point. Up until that point,

1346
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 2: even if you did everything right, there were like five

1347
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 2: or six gatekeepers that really determined who scaled, who made it,

1348
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 2: and who didn't. So it went well, it went from

1349
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 2: passion that I loved it and but that's going to

1350
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 2: be a hobby, that's what I do for fun, to

1351
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 2: maybe I can do that for a living. So I

1352
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 2: would say from birth I loved it. About ten years

1353
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 2: ago is when I realized there could be something professionally.

1354
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:42,919
Speaker 2: There's a career.

1355
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, what were the learning curves like when you were

1356
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 3: trying to hit your breakthroughs or break through the ceilings

1357
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 3: that you had on top of you, or that you

1358
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 3: assumed was on top of you.

1359
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 2: Well, it takes so many chops. It's like full Greg Ciano.

1360
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 2: I mean, the guy has set up there in Rutgers

1361
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 2: for years. Every Thursday night it felt like they play

1362
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 2: a game, And every Thursday night he'd get on air

1363
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 2: and he'd say, we got to keep chopping wood, we

1364
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 2: got to kee chopping wood. And I listened to that.

1365
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 2: It's like in one ear out the other that's coaching speak,

1366
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 2: that's cliches. But then when you start doing this. I

1367
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 2: mean I for a long time. I'm happy if we

1368
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 2: get double digit viewers on a live stream. I'm happy

1369
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 2: if we've got seventeen, like we're pushing twenty tonight, and

1370
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 2: so that's a big deal. Well, I'm thinking to myself,

1371
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 2: I wonder what I have to do to get millions

1372
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 2: of viewers, millions of subscribers and listens. And I mistakenly thought,

1373
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 2: you've got to do way better work. You could be

1374
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 2: doing the right work. It just takes a while to

1375
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 2: cut through, which is a good thing. You actually want

1376
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 2: your big break really quickly. But it's a blessing that

1377
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 2: the big break doesn't come because you actually may not

1378
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 2: be ready for the big break when you're praying for it.

1379
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 2: So it's actually a blessing that you're three four years

1380
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 2: down the road. Is when like a Shannon Terry calls

1381
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 2: you up, because then you've got your thousands of hours

1382
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 2: of repetition. You've got a persona a little bit like

1383
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 2: you've got an identity. You know who you are, you

1384
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 2: know what your presentation is. You're not trying to emulate

1385
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 2: anyone anymore. Like you have your influences just like we

1386
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 2: all do. But you've divorced yourself from trying to be

1387
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 2: as repetitively like comparable to them as possible, And so

1388
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 2: it's just being comfortable not being seen or heard for

1389
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 2: a long time and understanding it may be a blessing

1390
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 2: that no one's seeing you, were hearing you for a

1391
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 2: little while. And then the competition's out there quitting every

1392
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 2: day because they're not getting the results. So unbeknownst to you,

1393
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 2: they're like five thousand people that started at the same

1394
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 2: time you did, and there are about three to five

1395
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 2: spots at the top of the ladder in what you do,

1396
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 2: and so there it's like ten years down the road

1397
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 2: before you could ever achieve it, and you can't see

1398
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 2: your competition. I'm in Columbus, Georgia doing what I'm doing.

1399
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 2: There may be a guy in Des Moines, Iowa, maybe

1400
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 2: a goat in Twison in Arizona, and every day, like

1401
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 2: five or ten of them are tapping out because no

1402
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 2: one's watching them. Right, That is hard to adjust to

1403
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 2: if you don't have perspective about yourself.

1404
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 3: I heard a U.

1405
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: That's powerful shit right there, Josh Bai. That is bro Yeah, absolutely,

1406
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 1: I mean that is chopping what.

1407
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like anybody who's tuning in and thinking

1408
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 3: about something other, curious or interested in doing something that

1409
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 3: would be a conversation that they should that they're probably

1410
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 3: sitting there and self talking themselves on do I want

1411
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 3: to do this? Or if they're in the middle of

1412
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 3: something right now and they're not getting the love that

1413
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 3: they think they should be getting right now, like that,

1414
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 3: right there is a great perspective to lean on.

1415
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 2: Take consistent action. Yeah, eventually you'll be rewarded for all

1416
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 2: the things you do. That's it. Hey, even if you're not,

1417
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 2: even if you don't get the reward you think you're owed,

1418
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 2: You'll never lay in bed at night wondering, Man, I

1419
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 2: wonder what would happen if I didn't quit, Or I

1420
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 2: wonder what would have happened if I pursued that. That

1421
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 2: was like in the times where our traction was nothing,

1422
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 2: And like I'm trying to work part time to even

1423
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 2: stay from getting evicted. You're still telling yourself, Yeah, but

1424
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,439
Speaker 2: I'm doing what I love. I'm pursuing what I love.

1425
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 2: So I'd rather just go broke doing this than go

1426
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 2: take like there was a job. I remember this the

1427
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 2: convention and Trade center in the town I grew up

1428
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 2: in there was a job. It would have paid me

1429
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 2: sixty thousand dollars a year, way more money than I

1430
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 2: had ever made at any point. That was like double

1431
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 2: what I was making local TV. I could have taken

1432
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 2: that and been totally fine the rest of my life.

1433
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 2: I would have escalated up through middle management, upper management,

1434
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:12,439
Speaker 2: but I would have never known. And also, since that's

1435
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 2: the mid to late twenty teens, congruent to me tapping out,

1436
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 2: someone else would have blown up in the college space,

1437
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 2: or two or three people would have blown up in

1438
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 2: the college space, and I'd be sitting here in twenty

1439
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 2: twenty five watching their channel, subscribe to their stuff, downloading

1440
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 2: their pods, and I would think to myself this whole time,

1441
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 2: I'm not happy, I'm not fulfilled, because deep down, I

1442
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 2: think that should have been.

1443
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 1: Me with with that mindset of being like I'm gonna

1444
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: keep this going. I want like I'm doing what I

1445
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: love regardless if the money's not coming in. Did you

1446
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 1: have that thought process the entire time or was there

1447
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: ever a point where you're like, Okay, maybe I should

1448
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: pack this.

1449
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it's not for me.

1450
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 1: I see these other guys that maybe because once you

1451
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: start doing something, you become more aware of what everybody

1452
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 1: else is kind of doing trying to do around you. Yep,

1453
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,959
Speaker 1: and you gotta see, maybe this guy to your left

1454
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 1: is getting a little more views than you. He started

1455
01:05:58,280 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: to do a little bit better than you. That can

1456
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 1: be a little bit like comparison is the thief of joy,

1457
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: Like you're losing it? How is he doing better than

1458
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: I am? Was there ever, like a maybe I should

1459
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: take that sixty thousand dollars a year job and work

1460
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 1: through middle management? Or was it very consistent like I'm

1461
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: going to keep doing this and keep chopping on.

1462
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 2: I would say there were individual moments where yeah, there

1463
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 2: was doubt, but I would say they were fleeting, Like

1464
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 2: the consistent theme was I'm going to see this through,

1465
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 2: like I'm going to steer the ship into the fog.

1466
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 2: If I hit the rocks, I hit the rocks. But like,

1467
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 2: I think that's the way I'm supposed to go, right.

1468
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 2: I think the other thing you hit on there is

1469
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 2: something that's the stupidest thing that exists in our space,

1470
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 2: like in the digital media space. People don't know how

1471
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 2: to define competition in our space. People treat competition in

1472
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 2: digital media like it's nineteen ninety three. So in nineteen

1473
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 2: ninety three, if you got Busting going on and I

1474
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 2: got my show going on, and we're both airing in Nashville, Tennessee,

1475
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 2: from three to seven pm in the afternoon, every listener

1476
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 2: you get is one I can't get. There is no

1477
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 2: on demand, There is no replay, there is no download

1478
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,959
Speaker 2: the pod tomorrow morning if you miss the live show.

1479
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 2: So we got to beat each other's throats, and I

1480
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 2: got to do whatever I got to do on the streets.

1481
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 2: I got to get in the pocket of advertisers and

1482
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 2: take you guys out, because that's how I'm going to survive.

1483
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five is not like that. Twenty twenty five

1484
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 2: is high tide raises all boats. It is on demand.

1485
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 2: The audience is in full control, and so when you

1486
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 2: do good, if I have my head on straight, it

1487
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 2: actually helps me. So all that gets in your way

1488
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 2: is ignorance or jealousy. Now, and it's crazy. It's as

1489
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 2: old as canaan able, so it'll always be there. But

1490
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 2: to watch the guys who don't get it, and who

1491
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,439
Speaker 2: still try and talk about being competitive, and they think

1492
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 2: competitive means taking views from someone that's not the way

1493
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 2: the industry works anymore. And I really look, there was

1494
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 2: a whole bunch. I didn't know. There's a whole bunch.

1495
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 2: I still don't know. But I realized early on. If

1496
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 2: I'm watching other people who are doing college football on

1497
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 2: digital media, I'm rooting for them. I'm not looking at

1498
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 2: their viewership as being twice mine and saying, dude, I'm

1499
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 2: so envy of that. How do I take that for myself?

1500
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 2: What I'm thinking is, how do I make sure I'm

1501
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 2: in there justted videos feed? How do I make sure

1502
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 2: I get some rub with their channel? How do I

1503
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 2: make sure their audience sees me. I'm going to be

1504
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 2: active in their comment section. I'm going to do that.

1505
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 2: But the competition, Doude, it's so misunderstood. The competitions with

1506
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 2: a standard. It's not with anybody else that's in the space,

1507
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 2: at least I don't think it is in twenty twenty five.

1508
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: Dude, I could not. I couldnot agree with that thought process. More,

1509
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,560
Speaker 1: like you said, every everybody, there's so many eyes and

1510
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 1: ears in this world. And if you're a fan of

1511
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 1: sports and you go find we were talking about new heights,

1512
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: like they just said, Tai swift on. They had seventeen

1513
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 1: million views unbelieved on Wednesday. That's a win for everything,

1514
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 1: Like you're allowed, you're bringing more eyes and ears and

1515
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 1: hopefully they come and see you a little bit as well,

1516
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: and you get to snap off. You know, one percent

1517
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: of those people want to stay with you and watch

1518
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: you as well. It's such an interesting change when you

1519
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: go from playing competitive sports yes, where everyone is like

1520
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: you know, you walk into a room it's high school.

1521
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: You walk into a room there's a starting left tackle.

1522
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: I want to be the starting left tackle. So now

1523
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: I'm competing with him back and forth trying to get

1524
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 1: that job. And then obviously if you're able to get it,

1525
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: you're trying to get a scholarship. It's always competing for self.

1526
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: And then going to a world like this, it's like

1527
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 1: you have to kind of turn off the thought process

1528
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: of competing with others to now you're competing with yourself

1529
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: and how do you make your brand and quality as

1530
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: good as possible. So when people do stumble upon you,

1531
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 1: it's like all right, like you're giving them something that

1532
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 1: they want to come back to.

1533
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,560
Speaker 2: Think about this also, what do you want out of it?

1534
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,600
Speaker 2: Like you could be of the mentality that all I

1535
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 2: want to do is grow my brand individually, make as

1536
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 2: much money as I can. You can be purely selfish

1537
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 2: about it, and that's your business. Like, if you want

1538
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 2: to be that way, I don't advise it, but I'm

1539
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 2: not going to tell you not to be that way.

1540
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 2: But like, think about fundamentally, what you get to do.

1541
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 2: You get to Both of you played the game. I'm

1542
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 2: sitting here having not even played the game. I'm strictly

1543
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 2: taking from football. And it's the stupidest mentality in the

1544
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 2: world to have where you make life changing money, sitting

1545
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 2: by a microphone talking about a sport. To think, Oh,

1546
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 2: I don't owe anything to this space. I don't owe

1547
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 2: anything that game. I don't owe anything to the community

1548
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 2: at large. I don't know how you make it long

1549
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 2: term thinking like that. I don't know how you make

1550
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 2: it in life thinking like that much less make it professionally. Boy,

1551
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 2: that Nebraska had looks so good.

1552
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 3: You like it. I thought you would have one on too.

1553
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: I know that you know.

1554
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 3: I watched your show last night. I heard I saw

1555
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 3: the clip obviously, but I also consume the entirety of

1556
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 3: your show last night, and I had a little little

1557
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 3: shit eating grin when I heard you say biggest Nebraska

1558
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 3: supporter in the city of Nashville, so I assumed that

1559
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 3: you'd probably have on something Nebraska related. I dare I ask,

1560
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 3: are you going to be on the road with us

1561
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 3: next week at Arrowhead, Nebraska Cincinnati, being the Nebraska supporter

1562
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 3: that you are, which fires me up because you're a

1563
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 3: monster in the space. So hey, more Nebraska supporters, the better.

1564
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 2: Here's the problem I have. The problem I have is

1565
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 2: if I'm at Arrowhead next week and then I'm at

1566
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 2: the buss and Bowl a few weeks later, the public

1567
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 2: starts to talk about Nebraska homersm, the public starts to

1568
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 2: throw allegations that I can't afford right now, and so

1569
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 2: I've got to choose one or the other.

1570
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 3: But it wouldn't that be better? Because isn't the bias

1571
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 3: of Josh paid is that you're an SEC homer.

1572
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 2: It really depends on who you're listening to, because you

1573
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 2: go around the South and they'll tell you do you

1574
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 2: slurp the Big ten too much? And the Big ten

1575
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 2: will definitely tell you the opposite, And then some guy

1576
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 2: randomly throw big twelve homersm at me. The other day.

1577
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 2: And there's not a Big twelve homer on the planet,

1578
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 2: by the way, that's not even a thing that they say,

1579
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, don't go one that sits in the

1580
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 2: back there.

1581
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 3: He loves big twelve football.

1582
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,560
Speaker 2: By the Big twelve. But everybody thinks you're making it

1583
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 2: a charity case when you say that, I'm talking about

1584
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 2: people who would like in Predator take the machete across

1585
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 2: the chest they bleed Big twelve. Those people are hard

1586
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 2: to find, and so when you get at you get

1587
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 2: accused of being one. It's almost like a badge of

1588
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 2: honor in a weird way, because it's the safest allegation

1589
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 2: you can own that, And if you're a big twelve homer,

1590
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 2: no one hates you. So that's actually the one I want,

1591
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 2: but it's not the one I have.

1592
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 3: Did you hear the little nuggety through in there the

1593
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 3: Easter Egg if he's at the bust?

1594
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:10,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so you come in so yeah, Honestly,

1595
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 1: if it's my perfect world, would love to have you

1596
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:14,879
Speaker 1: at the bust and bowl over Arrowhead.

1597
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 2: Do you worry that you may overshadow the game that day?

1598
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 2: I think me we're getting to the point where the

1599
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 2: juice around the Bust and Bowl. I'm just do if

1600
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,679
Speaker 2: you think you talked to Sharon, you talk to Matt Rule,

1601
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 2: and then you talk to you guys. Do you think

1602
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 2: that there may be leading up to kickoff a little

1603
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 2: concern the game's being overshadowed because Bust and Bowl is

1604
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 2: in town.

1605
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,600
Speaker 1: I think that's pressure and pressure makes diamonds. Yeah, and

1606
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 1: one team will rise to the occasion and one team won't.

1607
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 1: It's a reason why it's the greatest trophy game in

1608
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:46,839
Speaker 1: all of college.

1609
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 2: Football, which I disagree with.

1610
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: Well, we can get into that. We all have opinions,

1611
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 1: no matter how wrong or right they are. We all

1612
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 1: have opinions, right yep.

1613
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 3: So also, what we're bringing eyes and ears to the

1614
01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 3: game that we love, to the teams that we love.

1615
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're giving back to the game these guys.

1616
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 1: These guys want it, they need it, they gotta have it.

1617
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 1: They look at that Bust and Bull trophy that's in

1618
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 1: ann Arbor, Michigan right now, that's sitting in their player's

1619
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 1: locker room or their players lounge, whatever it is, and

1620
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 1: they smile when they walk past it. They think busting

1621
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 1: with the boys. They think tradition, rich history, two elite

1622
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 1: programs that have been a staple of college football since

1623
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 1: the time they planted their block N and M.

1624
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 2: That fires me up.

1625
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 1: They're proud, so that fires me up. September twentieth, two

1626
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:32,759
Speaker 1: teams will enter, one team will leave Victoria.

1627
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 2: One day that trophy could be Florida Rosdale, Florida. One day,

1628
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 2: that trophy could be Florida. I got one trophy on

1629
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 2: my set. Is it the Pig, and it's the pig Pig?

1630
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 2: Is that Minnesota, Minnesota, Iowa?

1631
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: Minnesota, Iowa. That's the greatest trophy you think.

1632
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 2: I love? I love it is the greatest trophy in sports.

1633
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 2: I think it's better than the Stanley Cup. I just love.

1634
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 2: It's got to name. It's a pig named Floyd. It's

1635
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 2: a pig. It's a trophy, that's a statue. They've got

1636
01:13:58,160 --> 01:13:58,679
Speaker 2: the acts.

1637
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,879
Speaker 1: You probably know the Big ten Wisconsin, Minnesota.

1638
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 2: That's beautiful.

1639
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 1: That's a good one. And honestly, as a pig lover,

1640
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 1: I had a peg in college. His name was doctor Hamlet.

1641
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 1: The third I can have respect and love for that trophy.

1642
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 1: Don't hold a candle to the bust and bawl don't

1643
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 1: hold a candle to Paul Bunyan trophy.

1644
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 2: And you're not biased in anyway like you're speaking about

1645
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 2: this from an unbiased perspective.

1646
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 1: I think if you look at I mean, just pull up,

1647
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 1: just pull up a picture of the bust and Bowl trophy.

1648
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 3: If we're talking about looks.

1649
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 2: Alone, butment Cinnamon as well. Yeah, there's sentiment on my

1650
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 2: side with Floyd. I can't understand. I'm not knocking this trophy.

1651
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 2: This is a very good trophy. In time, I think

1652
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 2: it could elevate in meaning. I think this year goes

1653
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,600
Speaker 2: a long way in that. Yeah, I mean, Floyd's been

1654
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 2: around since the Mayflower.

1655
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, the only one I would agree with you. I

1656
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 3: I could say I would have the speaking for myself,

1657
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 3: biased towards the bus and Bowl. But in all totality,

1658
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 3: you can't just have a one sided bust and Bowl trophy,

1659
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 3: you know, can I bet very young, we're in our

1660
01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 3: youth stages right now.

1661
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:00,560
Speaker 2: Can I get some feedback? I think you need to

1662
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,600
Speaker 2: feature the trophy more prominently. I have not seen a

1663
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 2: close up of this trophy, and I consume your stuff

1664
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 2: pretty fairly religiously, so I think that you need to

1665
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 2: get the image of the trophy out there more. I

1666
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 2: think it needs to be more prominent. I think it

1667
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:17,480
Speaker 2: needs to be featured more. I agree many trophies merchandizable.

1668
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a terrible idea that could be

1669
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 2: your childice of supremacy.

1670
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, write that down. We interrupt this episode to bring

1671
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 3: you Dude Wipes. Are you fumbling the ball when it

1672
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 3: comes to getting a confident clean in the back of

1673
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 3: your end zone? Make the right play, call an audible

1674
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 3: and switch from dry toilet paper to wet extra large

1675
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 3: dude wipes. Why it's simple. Wetter just cleans better, and

1676
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:39,719
Speaker 3: dude wipes are wet and extra large so they clear

1677
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 3: never smear your rear. So when you got to go

1678
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 3: number two, be sure to bring the number one product

1679
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 3: and clean. Dude Wipes the goat of cleaning your keyster.

1680
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 3: Available on Amazon and at a Walmart nationwide. In at

1681
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 3: Walmart Nationwide, Dude Wipes Best Clean Pants Down.

1682
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 1: Back to the episode, but.

1683
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 2: Can we go back for just yes, So you're talking

1684
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 2: about pressure, and you were talking about pressure making diamonds

1685
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 2: and big game coming up. That's what four weeks from now?

1686
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 2: What date is that? September twentieth, but like before August ends,

1687
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 2: you got a first pitch coming up?

1688
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:14,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, actually it's tomorrow.

1689
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so tonight.

1690
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, as you're watching the show, it is tonight.

1691
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 2: Can I give you my take on this, because everyone's

1692
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 2: going to try and hype you up. Everyone's going to

1693
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 2: tell you don't be nervous. You're going to be nervous

1694
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 2: if you remain in your current state. So folks like

1695
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 2: to listen to music before they go do stuff like this.

1696
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 2: Folks like to do push ups or do the armbands.

1697
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 2: If you'll pop three niquil thirty minutes before you throw

1698
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 2: out this first pitch, you will be fine. You'll go

1699
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,759
Speaker 2: inner third, outer third, You'll be able to location spot,

1700
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 2: you'll be fine. You fall asleep afterwards, yeah, but you

1701
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 2: will be totally fine, and you hardly will even remember

1702
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 2: the experience, but you'll have the film. Like George Bush

1703
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 2: after nine to eleven, you'll be able to go back

1704
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 2: and you'll be able to say, Dude, I fell asleep

1705
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 2: in the dugout after this, but that was sixty three

1706
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 2: on the black.

1707
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 1: Tell me why Nike will, how'd you get there? I

1708
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 1: thought you were going to say something on the lines

1709
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 1: of visualization. No, I thought you were going to compliment

1710
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 1: my throwing abilities is we've actually played catch.

1711
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 2: We have, but that wasn't Kaufman Stadium. You're going to Coffman, right,

1712
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 2: You're going to Kansas City. Yes, yes, I just all

1713
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 2: due respect to the alley back here. There's not a

1714
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 2: there's not a waterfall in center field in the alley

1715
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 2: back here. Could make quick trip. By the way, one

1716
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 2: of my big partners is the presenting sponsor of Kansas

1717
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 2: City Royals. This is a big deal for me to

1718
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,600
Speaker 2: even have you guys in town. In fact, welcome to

1719
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 2: Kansas City. Yeah. Just I'm just in all due respect,

1720
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 2: like that's a little different.

1721
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 3: Than listen, Josh, with all due respect, we have been

1722
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 3: working on the mental side, feel the grass, feeling the

1723
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 3: space around you, trying to bring yourself back to bush.

1724
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm just saying my advice is scrap all

1725
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 2: the prep and take niquil. Take that's my that's my advice.

1726
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 3: You take it or leave it, right, Okay, that's what's

1727
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 3: your experience been with Nike will in these big moments, I.

1728
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 2: Can throw accurately. So I don't I don't need it.

1729
01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 3: But what I'm saying when you use I feel to

1730
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 3: help you out in a big moment.

1731
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 2: No, I've not done that, but I think I just.

1732
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 1: He's you need give me a wild advice. Part of

1733
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 1: me feels like maybe you're trying to set me.

1734
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 2: Up a little bit. I don't want to set Maybe

1735
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 2: maybe taking a slump. I would say take it an

1736
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:16,680
Speaker 2: hour before. If I wanted to set you up, they

1737
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 2: would wheel you out there. Then. No, I want you

1738
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 2: just to be so lost and not in the moment.

1739
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 2: He's just like muscle memory boom. I threw it. Did

1740
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 2: I throw the pitch already? Yeah? You did. Here's the

1741
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 2: replay Good to Go Fly Home.

1742
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 1: So you're basically telling me drug yourself. Yes, legally, this

1743
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,759
Speaker 1: is role models. This is Shawn william Scott out camping

1744
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 1: and he takes a bunch of drugs with the girls

1745
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 1: so they can sleep. They're gonna have hallucinations.

1746
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 2: It is the Sean william Scott approach to first pitches. Yes, okay,

1747
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 2: I will you can get this stuff at CBS.

1748
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 3: We're gonna put that.

1749
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 1: We're in the suggestion box.

1750
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 2: Could could be a partner of the show.

1751
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,679
Speaker 1: You're looking at a sponsor. I will overduce your ship

1752
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: for the big moment. Yeah, we are not brought to

1753
01:18:57,960 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 1: no free shouts to night, will no free shoutous to night.

1754
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 1: That is an interesting take. Just get drowsy enough so

1755
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:06,839
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean a whole lot too, h Just whatever.

1756
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 2: If I make it fine, if I miss it, fine,

1757
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 2: I'll be asleep in five minutes either way. You know

1758
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 2: who's really fucked me up the most in this Jeremy Clump. Yeah.

1759
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 1: He has for the last two weeks every day at

1760
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 1: one point told me how nervous he is for me.

1761
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 1: And I wasn't nervous until mid last week. And then

1762
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 1: after the fiftieth time of him being like, I just

1763
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 1: hope you have a good pitch, and I'm worried about you.

1764
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 1: Hopefully it's a good pack, and I'm like, I should

1765
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 1: be a little worried about this. I should be a

1766
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 1: little worried. Here's where I sit because it's getting closer. Yeah,

1767
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 1: it's here, Yeah, it is here. Like I like, you're

1768
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 1: probably watching this episode right now, and I'm on a

1769
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 1: plane to Kansas City.

1770
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 3: Fandel's promoing it ten thousand dollars in bonus bets. Taylor

1771
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 3: does a pitchable or a catchable pitch.

1772
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 2: So where is your mind at? Where's your mind.

1773
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 3: At at this point?

1774
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to take these next sixteen hours. I'm

1775
01:19:58,320 --> 01:19:59,719
Speaker 1: going to do the work I have to do sitting

1776
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 1: with you. We have another person coming on later. Knock

1777
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:03,560
Speaker 1: out a couple of things for the show we have

1778
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, and then I'm gonna visualize, meditate. Get five

1779
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 1: to ten throws in today, five to ten quality. I'm

1780
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 1: not looking to rip it. I just want to feel

1781
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 1: the arm action. I want to feel my shoulders coming

1782
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 1: across the body. I want to feel the release point.

1783
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 1: And then hayz in the barn. Yeah, get ready, watch

1784
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 1: a little film on the flight, look over my notes,

1785
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:27,799
Speaker 1: game plan, the whole entire thing. Lean on will tomorrow.

1786
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lean on my boy a little bit. He's

1787
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 1: the one that's gonna be catching the pitch, and when

1788
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 1: time comes, I'm gonna grip it and rip. They people

1789
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 1: would go and take the easy way out. Just floated

1790
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 1: over there.

1791
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 2: Hey I did it.

1792
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 1: No, I've got to throw it. I've got to do

1793
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 1: full wind up. I've got to do exactly what I

1794
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 1: did in Saint Louis. But the ball's got to go

1795
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 1: down the middle.

1796
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 2: I respect it. I pull it for me and if

1797
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 2: I fail, Yeah, it's a win for me either way.

1798
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 3: I think it's a win. I don't think it's still

1799
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 3: your hands if if I fail.

1800
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no, Well he kind of cut

1801
01:20:56,360 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 1: me off if I fail. Hey, if I fail, back

1802
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 1: to the drawing board, we go back again.

1803
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 2: Do you just keep hitting up big league parks until

1804
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 2: you throw a striking?

1805
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 1: Listen, yes, big league parks hit us up. They were like, hey,

1806
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:11,600
Speaker 1: we want we want this here multiple teams. If I

1807
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 1: fail here, you bet your ass I'll be back again.

1808
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 2: Do you do a tour through the miners before you

1809
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 2: hit the big leagues again?

1810
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 1: That's been talked about. Yeah, it's been talked about. If

1811
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 1: I if I miss this pitch, Savannah BANANAZ will be

1812
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 1: my first call. Okay, sounds might be my second call.

1813
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 1: Sounds m sounds like we're ready, we're ready for your

1814
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 1: redemption in Nashville. To be honest, I wanted. I wanted

1815
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 1: a major league ballpark before I you know, i'd probably.

1816
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:38,559
Speaker 3: Have to bend the needs.

1817
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:40,640
Speaker 1: Okay, I need to go down to the miners. So

1818
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 1: if I fail this, I'll probably hell, I'll probably go

1819
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 1: to a little league for a little bit, start doing

1820
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 1: some coaches pitch for some kids for a little bit.

1821
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 1: Let them do their thing.

1822
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 2: Just step towards your target. Yeah, Just don't grip the

1823
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 2: ball too hard. Grip it and rip it, but don't

1824
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 2: grip it hard. Yeah, and just step towards your target. Right,

1825
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 2: you'll be fine.

1826
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm with you.

1827
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 2: As we're talking about I'm getting more now, I might

1828
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 2: need the night quill.

1829
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 3: When we're on that plane and we land, we get

1830
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 3: to the stadium, it's going, uh yeah, it's gonna be

1831
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 3: a different feeling.

1832
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 1: And the thing too, is like we're doing a whole bunch.

1833
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 3: We're doing some fun things. We're doing VP.

1834
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 1: We're doing it like we're gonna have a bunch of

1835
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 1: content to do and it's like great fun. Yeah, I'm

1836
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 1: gonna try to be present for that. However, you know,

1837
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 1: in the back of your head, like when I was

1838
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 1: when I was playing football, it's like people would come in,

1839
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 1: they'd fly in. It's Nashville. Everybody wants to come and

1840
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 1: watch a game, so they come in. So every other

1841
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 1: weekend I have friends and family in town and they're

1842
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 1: wanting to hang out. But you get to Thursday. It's

1843
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 1: like I'm not here with you. I might physically be here,

1844
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 1: but mentally I'm thinking about this guy, his rush, what

1845
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 1: the defense does so the blitz come, so I can

1846
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,600
Speaker 1: be more prepared for this guy studying inside instead of

1847
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:45,719
Speaker 1: just talking to you about your work, because to be honest,

1848
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 1: I don't care right now, you know, no disrespect. I

1849
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 1: don't give a shit how work's going.

1850
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 2: You know, do you think that? So of course the

1851
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 2: normal person doesn't understand that. But just the concept of

1852
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:58,599
Speaker 2: game day you talked about Thursday, Just take game day.

1853
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 2: I've alway thought if you could take a normal person,

1854
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 2: don't even have them go through reps during the week,

1855
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 2: don't have them go through film, don't have them do anything,

1856
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 2: but just walk them into the environment on Saturday, wake

1857
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 2: up at the hotel or Sunday, get on the bus,

1858
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:17,720
Speaker 2: police escort into stadium and then just be on the

1859
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 2: field during warm ups. The sensory overload that is a

1860
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 2: big time college or pro environment. Just the hour pregame

1861
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 2: leading up and try and explain to that person, hey,

1862
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 2: you've got to go execute against professional football players after all.

1863
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:36,679
Speaker 2: This to me, even just work in media, it takes

1864
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 2: a little while to get adjusted to how big the

1865
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 2: sensory overload is. As you can sit in a studio

1866
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 2: and do it. You can be on a practice field

1867
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 2: and doing it, but like executing in an arena on Saturday,

1868
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 2: on Sunday, coaching or playing just to be focused the

1869
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 2: level of focus you got to get to. And with

1870
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,679
Speaker 2: a coach, they're not doing physical, physical, physical, physical, there's

1871
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 2: just mental mental, mental, mental to stay locked in. I've

1872
01:23:58,160 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 2: always appreciated folks who can do that.

1873
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:03,560
Speaker 1: It's taking a regular person to do that. If you

1874
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 1: take a step further and give them the entire week

1875
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,759
Speaker 1: of preparation, or like here's your playbook, here's your tendencies,

1876
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 1: here's your keys to victory. And you're basically studying for

1877
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 1: a test all week long, and then you add the

1878
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: police escort. Waking up in the morning, it's quiet in

1879
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 1: the chow hall. Everyone's sitting there having their omelets. Some

1880
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 1: guys can't eat, some guys can't. You get on the bus,

1881
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 1: music's just playing. You hear different genres of music going on.

1882
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 1: Some guys like to sit quietly, other guys are a

1883
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:31,639
Speaker 1: little more loud. It's that nervous anxiousness. Then you get

1884
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 1: in the if you're on the first bus or there

1885
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 1: are two hours before the game starts, you're rolling out,

1886
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 1: you're stretching, everything's quiet, so and then you go out

1887
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 1: fans if it's an away game, they're yelling at you,

1888
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 1: screaming at you.

1889
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:42,799
Speaker 3: Then you go to the pregame.

1890
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 1: Now the juices are really flowing because you have the

1891
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 1: full uniform on and you're going through and you don't

1892
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 1: want to over exert yourself, but you want to put

1893
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:51,680
Speaker 1: enough effort into where you're loved up a little bit

1894
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 1: before you go in the locker room. The hardest part

1895
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 1: of every game is after warm ups, going into the

1896
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 1: locker room before the national anthem. That's the hardest part

1897
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 1: of every single football game because then you got guys

1898
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 1: that're with their notes. I'm sure Will was like this

1899
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 1: where he had his notes, his defensive calls, tendencies, these

1900
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 1: types of things. Some guys want to, you know, put

1901
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 1: the trap music on and then go to the prayer

1902
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 1: in the shower right after that and they're yelling at

1903
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:14,639
Speaker 1: hoot and hollering. You got a guy in the corner

1904
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,720
Speaker 1: that's throwing up like there's so many different things. And

1905
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,680
Speaker 1: then you walk back out after being a part of

1906
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:23,640
Speaker 1: warm ups with the stadium's twenty five percent full, so

1907
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 1: now it's one hundred percent full, and it's like you're

1908
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,679
Speaker 1: walking to a fucking gauntlet. And then the national anthem

1909
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 1: hits your heart rates at one eight. He haven't even

1910
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 1: taken a snap yet, and you're just thinking to yourself,

1911
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 1: let me get this first shot out of the way.

1912
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:35,640
Speaker 1: And once you get that, it's like, all right, we

1913
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 1: can get going the hardest part of the game. We're here, Yeah,

1914
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 1: we're here, right here, and we get to being able

1915
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 1: to sit and watch so much more fun.

1916
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 3: Yeah it is, yeah, so much more enjoyable to observe.

1917
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:51,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that, boys really get his ass beat today.

1918
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 1: Being the guy that's getting his ass beat that day

1919
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 1: not fun.

1920
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 2: Winning like playing the game.

1921
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 1: You cannot be playing a football game and having that

1922
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:01,759
Speaker 1: many people watch what you feel like you're the main attraction.

1923
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 1: Nobody else in the world cares about whatever's going on

1924
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 1: except for right here. But the pressure that comes with

1925
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 1: it can be overbearing, overbearing. So no, I don't think

1926
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 1: they're a regular person could handle that pressure a week

1927
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 1: in and week out, because then you go games over.

1928
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 3: Well, hey, if they were prepared for it, like when

1929
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 3: you say regular person, like if they had it's like

1930
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 3: he was given the analogy, like putting people in that

1931
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 3: environment with zero.

1932
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 1: Preparation and then they got to go do it. I

1933
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 1: feel like you have the you kind of have a

1934
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,480
Speaker 1: fallback in your mind if you're not prepared or underprepared.

1935
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but when you're fully prepared for an entire week

1936
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 3: and the expectation is there and you're going over are

1937
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 3: they gonna get me here? Are they gonna motion empty?

1938
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 3: Are they gonna isolate me on third down? And trips

1939
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:46,040
Speaker 3: far gun? Are they gonna do all these things that

1940
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 3: you are prepared for, but you're trying to figure out

1941
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 3: schematically what are they going to do to you? I

1942
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 3: feel like understanding that expatient expectation walking on the field

1943
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:57,560
Speaker 3: as the national anthem's going on, and that fear that

1944
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:00,640
Speaker 3: fight or flight is in your mind on just executing.

1945
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 3: I think having an entire week of being fully prepared

1946
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 3: and walking out there would be a different feeling than

1947
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 3: having zero preparation at all and then going out there

1948
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 3: you'd be scared, but you'd be able to fall back

1949
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 3: on you know, I didn't do anything to get to

1950
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 3: this more.

1951
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 1: I get to feel all this moment.

1952
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 3: But I feel like that anxiety and that fear that

1953
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 3: kicks in being fully prepared is the difference of with

1954
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 3: your analogy on putting somebody in that environment.

1955
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 2: I think the getting to the clearing of the mechanism

1956
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 2: headspace that you got to be in and you again,

1957
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:33,799
Speaker 2: you could just as easily be talking about a quarterback

1958
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 2: as a play caller. The level of, like if there's

1959
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 2: a scale of one to ten maximum focus a human

1960
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 2: can have on a task at hand, getting to ten,

1961
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 2: getting there and on kickoff, being there, but then being

1962
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 2: there three and a half hours later, You've just been there.

1963
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:52,639
Speaker 2: If you're good, if you're good at what your craft,

1964
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 2: at what you do, you're still there three and a

1965
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 2: half hours later, especially like if I'm watching Quarterback on Netflix.

1966
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 2: One of the things I appreciate the most is the

1967
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 2: prep is beyond insane. People would never understand it. You're

1968
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 2: going through, living the life, you're going through, being the

1969
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 2: face of a franchise, all that all right, So then

1970
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 2: you get to game day. You go through what you

1971
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 2: just talked about. First quarters over second quarters, over halftimes,

1972
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 2: over third quarter, fourth quarter. Most NFL games are decided

1973
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 2: maybe in the last ten minutes, last eight minutes, and

1974
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 2: to be that sharp and to be that zoned in

1975
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 2: at level ten, at level eleven with two minutes twelve

1976
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 2: seconds to go and it's third and eight, and you

1977
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 2: know these next two downs are going to determine the

1978
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 2: quality of life for the entire next week, for your

1979
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 2: entire locker room, not just you. And to still be

1980
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,560
Speaker 2: that dialed in. I'm talking about maintaining that level of

1981
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 2: focus for three and a half or four hours at

1982
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:43,560
Speaker 2: a time in that environment. That is what blows my

1983
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 2: mind that people can do it, But that's why most

1984
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:46,640
Speaker 2: people can't do it.

1985
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're also the preparation point. In twenty twenty, there

1986
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 1: was all the COVID stuff going on. We had a

1987
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 1: game we'rest supposed to play the Steelers, and then there's

1988
01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:59,600
Speaker 1: this big COVID outbreak at the Titans. So we do

1989
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 1: zo Zom calls all week long and like, hey, we're

1990
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 1: playing the Steels. We're gonna start preparing for these guys.

1991
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 1: This is the game plan is what's going on. That

1992
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 1: game gets canceled and they're like, hey, you're no longer

1993
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 1: playing the Steelers. Discounts as your bye week. Now you're

1994
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 1: playing the Bills.

1995
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 2: Yeah bye week.

1996
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you guys are having a bye week.

1997
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 1: They put us in uh, like the Zoom calls. We

1998
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: go in one day for a walkthrough, and everyone is

1999
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:24,639
Speaker 1: walking to that walk through with two thought processes. We're

2000
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:26,599
Speaker 1: gonna get our ass beat or we're gonna beat ass.

2001
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 1: There's really no middle ground of what's going to happen

2002
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 1: because there's been so little preparation. The Bills just there

2003
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 1: was a release. Yeah, and we end up beating the

2004
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 1: ship out of the Bills like Zoom brought to you

2005
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 1: by Zoom. So that's where when you brought up the

2006
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 1: bring them in cold and just let them enjoy, like

2007
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 1: let them go through a game day. That's not the

2008
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:50,799
Speaker 1: pressure that the pressure is you. You're given these coaches,

2009
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:52,560
Speaker 1: if they're good coaches, are giving you the answers to

2010
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 1: the test all week long. You've studied it, you've repped

2011
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:56,679
Speaker 1: it countless times.

2012
01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 2: Now you have to go and do it.

2013
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 1: And because they told you this this and you have

2014
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:03,599
Speaker 1: to succeed. You have to do these three things off

2015
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,720
Speaker 1: its defense special teams, so nine total key points. You

2016
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 1: do those things, you're going to succeed. Then you have

2017
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:11,679
Speaker 1: the results of the game. If you succeeded, it's great

2018
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 1: with these are what we checked off.

2019
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 3: This is what we can do better.

2020
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 1: If you lose, it's like we gave you the answer

2021
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 1: to the test. You guys failed to test.

2022
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 2: Then now people are gonna rip us all week because yes,

2023
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:23,760
Speaker 2: when you go into that game where we.

2024
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 1: Play the Bills, it's like, truly that's what you walk

2025
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:28,639
Speaker 1: into that game and you're like, yeah, we're probably gonna

2026
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 1: get murdered today because no one's done a whole lot.

2027
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 1: We got fifteen guys on COVID, we've been on zoom

2028
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 1: the whole time. We did a jog through and that

2029
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 1: was the.

2030
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 2: One thing we did in a ten day span, and.

2031
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:40,680
Speaker 1: All the players, we're in our position groups just going

2032
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 1: to like a local park separately and the player it's

2033
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:45,679
Speaker 1: just all player led, like, hey, let's go. Coach wanted

2034
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 1: us to go over this stuff.

2035
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 2: Yes, has any good documentary been done yet on the

2036
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 2: COVID year needs to.

2037
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 1: I have not seen one.

2038
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:55,639
Speaker 2: Look at the score at this game forty two to sixteen.

2039
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 1: After that, we're basically we're in the locker room.

2040
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:03,639
Speaker 2: To intense the boys more practice.

2041
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 1: We don't, Hey, we don't, we don't got to do

2042
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:10,680
Speaker 1: this anywhere, any place, anytime. Yeah, and we did it,

2043
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:13,679
Speaker 1: like with the proof is right there against Josh Allen

2044
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 1: and the Buffalo Bills. The hardest thing, The hardest thing

2045
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 1: is not like that week is really hard. The preparation

2046
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 1: is really hard. It's having a result, good, bad, or indifferent.

2047
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 2: How you played? How do you do next week?

2048
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 1: That is That's That's the true scale of a of

2049
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 1: a great football player. It's like, can you do it

2050
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 1: consistently seventeen times and then having a bye week and

2051
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 1: then you're gonna have an injury, You're gonna be sore.

2052
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 1: How do you replicate a good game? How do you

2053
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:41,599
Speaker 1: get rid of the bad games? How do you take

2054
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 1: the coaching? How do you get ego out of the way.

2055
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:47,400
Speaker 1: It's a it's so much more in depth than people

2056
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 1: think that it really is. Even that quarterback shows, because

2057
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:52,680
Speaker 1: quarterback shows like they're doing practice and then it's like

2058
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 1: a blip, It's a five minute blip, and then they're

2059
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 1: out with their their wives and they're going over the plays.

2060
01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 1: Like Jared Goff, his wife's reading in the place. It's like, yeah,

2061
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:01,639
Speaker 1: he does that. Probably when those cameras turned off, he's

2062
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 1: like came out of here, right, he's upstairs go to

2063
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 1: work now, Yeah, yeah, and.

2064
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 2: I'm gone all day long.

2065
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy enough about us though. Yeah, let's get

2066
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 3: into Josh Paate didn't play. How are you growing your

2067
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 3: brand your style on camera when you're also factoring in

2068
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:23,880
Speaker 3: the play factor Because a lot of people, a lot

2069
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 3: of haters, that'll be one of the first things they

2070
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 3: come at if you miss anywhere or get something wrong,

2071
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 3: as they'll talk about you know, they can talk about

2072
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:34,639
Speaker 3: your reputation of being able to play.

2073
01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean I would say former players miss

2074
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:39,640
Speaker 2: all the time too, Like who in the world I

2075
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 2: would I would take former coaches. I mean, no one

2076
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 2: knows the game better than a guy who played and

2077
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 2: then coached. You've seen the game from every angle, You've

2078
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 2: experienced it from every angle. Right, find me that guy

2079
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 2: who is now making a living betting football, because if

2080
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 2: it's really if that's the shortcut, that find me anyone

2081
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 2: who's sitting behind a desk. There are a million former

2082
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:03,719
Speaker 2: players and former coaches who are in studios on Sunday

2083
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 2: and Saturday. They pick games, don't they. I Mean it's

2084
01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 2: all public, Like which one of them's knocking it out

2085
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:10,720
Speaker 2: of the park seventy plus percent against the spread. So

2086
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 2: clearly there's more to understanding or digesting the game than

2087
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:17,639
Speaker 2: just having played it. But make no mistake, I'd love

2088
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 2: to have had a fifteen year career playing for the

2089
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:22,200
Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons. I mean that definitely gives you name and

2090
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:25,480
Speaker 2: brand recognition. You have a deeper and more nuanced understanding

2091
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:29,000
Speaker 2: of the game. There's no substitute for that. But when

2092
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 2: you walk in a stadium on Saturday, or when you

2093
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 2: fire this video up and you look at the viewership

2094
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:36,200
Speaker 2: of it, ninety nine percent of the people in the

2095
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 2: audience never played. So who are you stacking your show for?

2096
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 2: Are you stacking your show for former players or are

2097
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:44,560
Speaker 2: you stacking your show for the millions upon millions of

2098
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:46,679
Speaker 2: people who are going to watch or listen. The answer

2099
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 2: to me, at least, is I want to build the

2100
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:51,679
Speaker 2: show for the audience that I want consuming the show,

2101
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 2: which means we're going to talk about the game. But

2102
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 2: the key is not, hey, did you play the game?

2103
01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 2: The key is do people care what you have to say? So,

2104
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:03,160
Speaker 2: like when I'll go and speak at colleges, they'll ask

2105
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:05,639
Speaker 2: for advice. There was that symposium in Nashville last week.

2106
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:07,519
Speaker 2: There were a lot of people here from college football,

2107
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 2: and some of them wanted to get into media, and

2108
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:11,640
Speaker 2: they were saying, what's your biggest piece of advice? And

2109
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 2: I always ask the same question, cause someone asked this

2110
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 2: question to me. They said, why would anyone care what

2111
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 2: you have to say? And it was just like awkward

2112
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 2: silence when I got asked that question, because it sounded

2113
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 2: like a trick question. It sounded like they were trying

2114
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 2: to dunk on me or something like that. They were

2115
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 2: They were given the most honest, brutal piece of feedback ever,

2116
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 2: and that is, if no one cares what you have

2117
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 2: to say, it doesn't matter what you know. It doesn't

2118
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:35,559
Speaker 2: matter where you played, it doesn't matter where you coach,

2119
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:37,760
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what your IQ is. Nothing doesn't matter

2120
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:39,880
Speaker 2: how great your THUMBNAILS and SEO is. If no one

2121
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 2: cares what you have to say, no one's gonna watch

2122
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 2: you or listen to you. So how do you make

2123
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 2: people care what you have to say? That's the most

2124
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:49,320
Speaker 2: inexact science in our business. But I think the best

2125
01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:53,160
Speaker 2: cheap code is be your audience. Like I grew up

2126
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:56,280
Speaker 2: with my audience, I am of my audience. I go

2127
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 2: eat barbecue on Tuesday afternoon with my audience. I always

2128
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:03,040
Speaker 2: have because like my social circle growing up, that's exactly

2129
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:05,680
Speaker 2: who I tailored my show towards because that is the

2130
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 2: mass college football public. I mean, that's a guy that's

2131
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:11,160
Speaker 2: roofing down in Lagrange, Georgia from nine to five every day.

2132
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:13,719
Speaker 2: That's a guy driving a cement truck in Topeka, Kansas.

2133
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 2: That's your audience. Your audiences in former players. So when

2134
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 2: people do that a lot of times it's more born

2135
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 2: out of insecurity, because like, no dude with a huge

2136
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 2: following who's a former player ever dunks on me for

2137
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 2: not being a former player. It's people I've never heard

2138
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 2: of before who were in defense mechanism mode. They're like

2139
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 2: in wounded animal mode because they haven't really found a

2140
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:34,720
Speaker 2: path for themselves. And so it's like, what can I

2141
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 2: say about this dude? Let me think, let me think

2142
01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:39,640
Speaker 2: he didn't play like cool? How'd you find outut about me?

2143
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:41,400
Speaker 2: Other than I say it every week? How'd you find

2144
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:44,759
Speaker 2: that out? So it doesn't it doesn't really am stringy

2145
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 2: all that much.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you bring up a good point, because again,

2147
01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 3: the people who would do it would be would be

2148
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 3: like players, the people who played the game.

2149
01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 2: Like Greg Olsen's not dunking on me because I didn't play, yea,

2150
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 2: like the guys who have made it as former players,

2151
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 2: they're not the ones throwing that at you. The ones

2152
01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:06,599
Speaker 2: throwing that at you are like Tiger Boy three six

2153
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:08,519
Speaker 2: at two thirty in the morning with thirty six followers

2154
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 2: you didn't play. Why would I listen to you?

2155
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 1: I think that's one of Sherman's burners.

2156
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't ask you to listen to me.

2157
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 3: Actually, going off of that though, I think you said

2158
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 3: something really good there to where you're curating your content

2159
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 3: and your stuff, your own unique self to a former

2160
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 3: self of yours that was in the social circles. How

2161
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 3: have you curated your content and built out your content

2162
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 3: knowing what your strengths are and trying to stay away

2163
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:33,040
Speaker 3: from what your your weaknesses might be.

2164
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:37,120
Speaker 2: Well, listen first off, so listen to people like, listen

2165
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:39,559
Speaker 2: to what they want to talk about. Don't be stupid

2166
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:41,320
Speaker 2: enough to ever get on a grease board and start

2167
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 2: talking x's and TH's because I've got no business doing that.

2168
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 2: And if we if we really find that the audience

2169
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:48,000
Speaker 2: wants that, I'll go find someone to do it on

2170
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 2: our platform, and then stay true to what it is

2171
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:53,679
Speaker 2: you promise people, Like, if you promise to be college

2172
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 2: football all year, present college football all year, don't do

2173
01:36:57,320 --> 01:36:59,640
Speaker 2: it through January or February, and then all of a

2174
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 2: sudden go twenty percent into politics or go thirty percent

2175
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 2: over towards some secret passion you have that your audience

2176
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 2: didn't sign up to listen to you talk about. The

2177
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:10,600
Speaker 2: only difference with that is, like I go stormchasing a

2178
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:12,560
Speaker 2: lot in the spring, and we found that there is

2179
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:16,599
Speaker 2: broad fascination with stormchasing because I would drop nuggets about

2180
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 2: it on our show and we would get thousands and

2181
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:21,719
Speaker 2: thousands of requests. Hey, talk about that more in the spring.

2182
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:25,000
Speaker 2: I'd rather listen to that than updates on Northwestern's offensive line.

2183
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 2: So that's the one exception where I've maybe deviated twenty

2184
01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:30,640
Speaker 2: percent off college football, and it's in the middle of

2185
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 2: the spring when there's no games going on anyway. But otherwise,

2186
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 2: just stay true to what you promise. It's like really simple.

2187
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 2: People screw it up all the time, and it's so

2188
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 2: simple to just define, like what's the overlap of your

2189
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 2: passion and your talent? For me, thankfully, it was talking

2190
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 2: about college football, and then just stay there. That's where

2191
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 2: your career is. That's how it never becomes a job.

2192
01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 2: It's just a career because you're doing what you would

2193
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 2: do for free. You happen to be doing it for

2194
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 2: a living, and fingers cross. People like it. Okay, check

2195
01:37:57,240 --> 01:38:00,120
Speaker 2: they do. Don't be stupid, don't screw it up. Just

2196
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 2: keep delivering what it is they're telling you through their

2197
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 2: engagement and viewership and listenership that they want.

2198
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:08,000
Speaker 3: You talked about staying in your lane.

2199
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:11,559
Speaker 1: It has obviously, like we all have so much bandwidth

2200
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:14,200
Speaker 1: per week, per day to be able to accomplish certain

2201
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 1: things with our shows, our ambitions, what we want to do.

2202
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:18,559
Speaker 1: Have you ever been approached to it in a sense

2203
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:20,800
Speaker 1: that people want you to keep doing what you're doing,

2204
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:23,559
Speaker 1: but at a higher scale, maybe going on some major

2205
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:25,559
Speaker 1: networks or something like that, where you had to evaluate

2206
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:27,800
Speaker 1: and be like, Okay, would this take away from my

2207
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:29,360
Speaker 1: enjoyment from what I truly.

2208
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:33,240
Speaker 2: Enjoy every year for the past three years, that's happened

2209
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:33,479
Speaker 2: a lot.

2210
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:36,120
Speaker 1: Nice this past example, well, this past I mean.

2211
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:38,400
Speaker 2: This past spring, it happened a lot. I mean, you know,

2212
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 2: in our world, you don't work in terms of calendar years.

2213
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 2: You work in terms of football seasons, so it's kind

2214
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:47,640
Speaker 2: of like a fiscal year, which I never understood what

2215
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:50,320
Speaker 2: that was because I was broke, So I do understand

2216
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 2: it now a little bit more. And my world, the

2217
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:58,680
Speaker 2: calendar is August through February, and then you negotiate all

2218
01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 2: your stuff in spring. So like this past spring, I mean,

2219
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:04,760
Speaker 2: there were several networks, Hey, would you be willing to

2220
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 2: do your show five days a week and take stupid

2221
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 2: money for us to put it on our platforms or

2222
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:15,479
Speaker 2: behind a paywall, and so, hey, man, money's great, but

2223
01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 2: we already make enough of it, and I'm doing my

2224
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:20,080
Speaker 2: show three days a week. And the trade off there is,

2225
01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:24,519
Speaker 2: like we went ninety minutes last night hardcore in depth,

2226
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 2: like a impact ton of information in that, Like I

2227
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 2: think that I could have gone four hours if I

2228
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 2: wanted to spread that out. Well, the only way we

2229
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:33,599
Speaker 2: can do that is to do it every other day

2230
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:36,960
Speaker 2: instead of every day. And the audience consumption rate says

2231
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 2: that's good because we get bulk majority of our engagement

2232
01:39:40,439 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 2: on replay traffic the next day anyway, So if we

2233
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:45,280
Speaker 2: were trying to deliver that every night, we'd be delivering

2234
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 2: a watered down version of that. We wouldn't really be

2235
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:51,320
Speaker 2: ever giving one hundred percent what were capable. It would

2236
01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:53,880
Speaker 2: just be like seventy five percent, but a lot more

2237
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:55,760
Speaker 2: of it. And really you would have just sold out

2238
01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 2: for a paycheck anyway. And if I was in dire straits,

2239
01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:00,760
Speaker 2: like maybe a network comes along, I've got to think

2240
01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:02,880
Speaker 2: about doing that for two or three years to set

2241
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:05,880
Speaker 2: myself up financially. But if you're doing okay or better

2242
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 2: for yourself, I've said no every year to that stuff.

2243
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:12,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are your personal non negotiables like when you're

2244
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:14,599
Speaker 3: thinking of I'm doing just fine, doing what I'm doing

2245
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:18,320
Speaker 3: well to where you don't get that that dangling carrot.

2246
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:21,120
Speaker 2: I don't want to wear suits on air fair.

2247
01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:23,639
Speaker 1: I don't most about locker room. This year, we're changing

2248
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:27,639
Speaker 1: the wardrobe really yeah, full he said, a tear off

2249
01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 1: at least every other week. It's actually T shirts, T

2250
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:32,880
Speaker 1: shirt suits.

2251
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 2: I got in a big fight about this with a

2252
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 2: local TV general manager one time because the way I

2253
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:40,479
Speaker 2: the way I started was like he called me cold.

2254
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:43,320
Speaker 2: Never met him. He said, Hey, I run a local

2255
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:46,400
Speaker 2: news affiliate, like an NBC affiliate. Do you want to

2256
01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:48,760
Speaker 2: do a late night college football show, like no one's

2257
01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:50,840
Speaker 2: gonna watch it, but you'll be on TV, you'll get reps,

2258
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 2: hopefully you'll build something. But the non negotiable was, hey, man,

2259
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:55,760
Speaker 2: if you're on my if you're on my desk, you

2260
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:57,519
Speaker 2: got to wear a suit, which was fair, like it's

2261
01:40:57,560 --> 01:41:00,280
Speaker 2: his platform. But I love the dude like I love

2262
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:02,759
Speaker 2: him today. But we would argue back and forth because

2263
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:05,760
Speaker 2: he was old school, he was from traditional news, and

2264
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:08,120
Speaker 2: he's like, you cannot wear T shirts on TV and

2265
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:11,240
Speaker 2: be taken seriously. And I said, I can't report on

2266
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:14,320
Speaker 2: a triple homicide we're in a T shirt and be

2267
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 2: taken seriously. I can talk about Alabama versus Georgia Saturday

2268
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:19,719
Speaker 2: in a T shirt, and I promise you the audience

2269
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:22,559
Speaker 2: we're trying to reach will consume it. Just fine. So hey,

2270
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:23,760
Speaker 2: I'm on his dimes, so I'm going to do it

2271
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 2: his way. But as soon as we got to wear

2272
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 2: we owned it and we controlled it. I said, I'm

2273
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 2: not putting a suit on again, not doing it unless

2274
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 2: I am working national championship coverage or something like that.

2275
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 2: Like when I was with CBS, I'd go up to

2276
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:37,519
Speaker 2: New York and do their inside college football show. I

2277
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:39,600
Speaker 2: respect them, that's their show. I'll wear a suit, but

2278
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:42,000
Speaker 2: on my stuff, I'm not wearing a suit. I don't

2279
01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:45,320
Speaker 2: want to have anybody touch creative control of the show,

2280
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:47,519
Speaker 2: so I want to be executive producer of it and

2281
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:50,360
Speaker 2: have full final say. I want to have personal relationships

2282
01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:53,240
Speaker 2: with the advertising partners instead of being told, hey, you're

2283
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:55,679
Speaker 2: partnering with this brand, because I want to present stuff

2284
01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 2: that is authentic to the brand. So those are a

2285
01:41:58,000 --> 01:41:59,760
Speaker 2: few of the non negotiables I guess, and to not

2286
01:41:59,880 --> 01:42:01,639
Speaker 2: have to touch anything other than college football.

2287
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:04,479
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2292
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2293
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Speaker 3: the work, or for the person who wakes up in

2294
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:25,680
Speaker 3: the morning, gets a workout in, puts in a full

2295
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:27,680
Speaker 3: day of work, and still gives it their all when

2296
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:29,599
Speaker 3: they come home, whether they're putting on the Dad had

2297
01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 3: or putting on the best friend hat or husband hat.

2298
01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:35,519
Speaker 3: White hat, whatever the case may be, form energy, we

2299
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Speaker 3: do the work back to the episode. What is your

2300
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:41,519
Speaker 3: I guess we can say that for the bud light question.

2301
01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:46,639
Speaker 3: Oh you got Nebraska in your college football playoff? Yeah, man,

2302
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 3: hold it before you start talking.

2303
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 1: Sorry, I just because I know we're going to get

2304
01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:51,720
Speaker 1: to ball in a second. But I did hear a

2305
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:56,400
Speaker 1: juicy story in our pre production meeting about you getting

2306
01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 1: into the space of sports media where you went and

2307
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:00,400
Speaker 1: you DMed company.

2308
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:02,400
Speaker 3: It was a radio station.

2309
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:04,760
Speaker 1: Yep, you went and got a job. You're kind of

2310
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:06,439
Speaker 1: doing You're you're doing a little bit of bitch work.

2311
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:09,559
Speaker 1: You're kind of rolling stuff. Somebody gets hurt car accident

2312
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 1: or something like that, and they're like, we gotta we

2313
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:14,080
Speaker 1: gotta thrust somebody into this and ends up being you

2314
01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:16,200
Speaker 1: that goes on the station and they're like, you were

2315
01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:18,519
Speaker 1: so great that they made you a mainstay on the show.

2316
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 1: Is their truth and validity to that?

2317
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:21,920
Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of truth. So it was just

2318
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:23,880
Speaker 2: the guy had a cold. Car wreck sounds better though. Yeah,

2319
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:25,240
Speaker 2: So guy got a call. I was told car wreck.

2320
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:26,679
Speaker 3: I was actually told broken lagas.

2321
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if he made it.

2322
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 1: He didn't have night quill.

2323
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:30,760
Speaker 2: It was a bad deal.

2324
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.

2325
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:34,559
Speaker 2: It was a bad deal. I understand. So I'm working.

2326
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:37,600
Speaker 2: I had worked construction down at Columbus, Georgia. I was

2327
01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:40,320
Speaker 2: in a fabric warehouse at this time, and I was

2328
01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:42,719
Speaker 2: listening to talk radio. Like I would listen to Colin Cowherd'

2329
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 2: show every day. He was an ESPN radio. It's fantastic.

2330
01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 2: Oh here, we get me to lunch every day, Like

2331
01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:48,600
Speaker 2: that's how I got myself to lunch. And then the

2332
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:51,040
Speaker 2: afternoon that was when like Risillo and Scott man Pelt

2333
01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 2: had a show. It was a really good stretch of radio.

2334
01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:54,720
Speaker 2: So I just listened to it all day every day,

2335
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:56,400
Speaker 2: and I'm telling myself, that's what i want to do.

2336
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:57,599
Speaker 2: That's what I want to do. That's what i want

2337
01:43:57,640 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 2: to do. I'm also telling myself, I've got no way in.

2338
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:01,439
Speaker 2: I've got no way in. I've got no way in.

2339
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:05,360
Speaker 2: But I remember Saban had just gotten Alabama. It was

2340
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:07,679
Speaker 2: like the second years at Obama. He comes to Columbus.

2341
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:10,559
Speaker 2: He does like a public speaking tour, forty five dollars

2342
01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 2: entry fee. I can't afford it. I borrow money to

2343
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 2: get a ticket to go see Saban speak and He

2344
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 2: talked about process oriented thinking. He talked a lot about

2345
01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:23,559
Speaker 2: how defining your goals but then totally setting them aside

2346
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:26,120
Speaker 2: and just focusing on the process. That's the key to success.

2347
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 2: And it's not like he was the first person I'd

2348
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:29,960
Speaker 2: ever heard say that. He's the one who made it

2349
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 2: clip for me. So I'm sitting there in that warehouse

2350
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:35,080
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, you know, he had also talked about

2351
01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:37,880
Speaker 2: doing an inventory of your time. Are you investing time

2352
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 2: or are you just spending time? Look at your typical day,

2353
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:43,040
Speaker 2: what period of the day is being spent. You're not

2354
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:45,400
Speaker 2: getting anything back from that that you could repurpose. So

2355
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 2: I figured out I was driving in my truck like

2356
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:48,960
Speaker 2: an hour and a half every day to and from work,

2357
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:52,320
Speaker 2: to and from class. So I decided the way, I'm

2358
01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 2: gonna take back some of my time and I'm gonna

2359
01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:56,040
Speaker 2: mute the radio. I'm not going to listen to anything

2360
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:58,320
Speaker 2: in the car, and I'm just going to simulate sports

2361
01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:00,160
Speaker 2: talk radio. So I just talked to my stick and

2362
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:02,679
Speaker 2: will hours and hours and hours and hours. I would

2363
01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 2: just simulate like I would turn on the radio. Cowherd

2364
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:07,240
Speaker 2: brings a segment in from break mute it I take

2365
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:10,760
Speaker 2: over for him, and I had thousands upon thousands of

2366
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:12,840
Speaker 2: hours over two or three years of doing that to

2367
01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:16,720
Speaker 2: where I begged that radio producer could you let me

2368
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 2: come in and observe. Finally he lets me come in

2369
01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 2: because I'd never seen live production happen before. So I

2370
01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:23,800
Speaker 2: sat in that studio like two months and one day

2371
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:27,839
Speaker 2: car crash aka dude get sick five minutes before airtime.

2372
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 2: He has no advance warning. He says, do you just

2373
01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:31,719
Speaker 2: want to hop on air today? It was the middle

2374
01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:34,120
Speaker 2: of college football season in the South. It was an

2375
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:37,720
Speaker 2: afternoon drive caller based talk show. So I hopped on

2376
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 2: just killed it. Great synergy, great chemistry, and the dude

2377
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 2: thought I had been doing it for a long time.

2378
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:45,720
Speaker 2: After the show, he was like, where did you say

2379
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 2: you've worked before? I said, well, I've actually never been

2380
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 2: on air before. However, I kind of do a version

2381
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 2: of this every day in my truck like a psychopath.

2382
01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:55,240
Speaker 2: So he never took me off air. And then you

2383
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:57,960
Speaker 2: fast forward two years and that's when that news station

2384
01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 2: GM hit me up. So then I go work local

2385
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:03,760
Speaker 2: TV and then I start getting towards the end of

2386
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:06,800
Speaker 2: a contract and like I'm seeing YouTube come of age.

2387
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:09,679
Speaker 2: I'm seeing Facebook live as a thing. I know where

2388
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:12,080
Speaker 2: the industry's going. I see those Berlin walls coming down.

2389
01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:17,000
Speaker 2: I know that if you got internet, unlike maybe five

2390
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:18,960
Speaker 2: years prior, you could make it like you can make

2391
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 2: a career for yourself. They wouldn't let me do it

2392
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:22,960
Speaker 2: because I was on an employment deal at the news station,

2393
01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 2: and you can't be creating your own content. It's a

2394
01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:27,519
Speaker 2: breach of contract. So I let my contract run to

2395
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:30,559
Speaker 2: the last day and they sit me down general manager

2396
01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:34,760
Speaker 2: right there, news director right there, and they said, we've

2397
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:36,640
Speaker 2: been calling your bluff, like you've been saying you're going

2398
01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:38,680
Speaker 2: to let your contract run out. We just thought you

2399
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:40,640
Speaker 2: were bsing us for more money, which we don't have.

2400
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 2: So I was at I was at twenty seven five

2401
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:46,120
Speaker 2: per year and I was at thirty per year, and

2402
01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:48,920
Speaker 2: they said, what are you going to do? You were

2403
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:50,720
Speaker 2: really gonna leave? I said, yeah, I'm gonna leave. They said,

2404
01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do? I'm gonna start a YouTube channel.

2405
01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:55,599
Speaker 2: And they just laughed, not even like a disrespectful laugh,

2406
01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:57,680
Speaker 2: just like, oh, you poor thing, like you don't know

2407
01:46:57,720 --> 01:47:00,240
Speaker 2: what you're doing. Don't don't screw your life up, said

2408
01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:02,519
Speaker 2: you can't monetize that. How are you gonna make money?

2409
01:47:02,560 --> 01:47:04,920
Speaker 2: Because no one was monetizing YouTube at the time. And

2410
01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:06,600
Speaker 2: I said, well, I think the industry is about to

2411
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:09,960
Speaker 2: change pretty quickly, Like it's very obvious where viewership trends

2412
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:12,680
Speaker 2: are going, AD dollars will follow that. They didn't buy it,

2413
01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 2: so I negotiated to stay with them as a ten

2414
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:19,080
Speaker 2: ninety nine independent contractor, making like fractions of what I

2415
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:21,000
Speaker 2: was making, and I was already making nothing. But the

2416
01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 2: trade off I negotiated was give me the studio three

2417
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:26,200
Speaker 2: nights a week to do my own show out of

2418
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:29,280
Speaker 2: and we agreed on that. So we launched the YouTube

2419
01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:32,160
Speaker 2: channel and we were doing a college football show. That's

2420
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:34,120
Speaker 2: it right there. That's like a first version of it,

2421
01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:37,360
Speaker 2: three nights a week out of the news station, and

2422
01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:40,400
Speaker 2: it blew up an in two years, CBS called, So

2423
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:41,360
Speaker 2: we've been here ever since.

2424
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:44,280
Speaker 1: No shit, Oh that is amazing. That's an incredible story.

2425
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:46,880
Speaker 2: It was a unique way to start doing it. Like

2426
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 2: that microphone's clearly not plugged in. I'm clearly wearing a

2427
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 2: lot of myc that's clearly just an aesthetic I bought

2428
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:54,960
Speaker 2: off Amazon. Yeah, but yeah, that was a that was

2429
01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:57,560
Speaker 2: a weird, weird way to do it, but it was

2430
01:47:57,840 --> 01:47:59,120
Speaker 2: the only way I could do it. That's the only

2431
01:47:59,240 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 2: way I saw end.

2432
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:02,320
Speaker 1: It's so interesting the way you bring up Nick Saban's

2433
01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 1: conversation about the process. Yep, and a lot of people

2434
01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:08,040
Speaker 1: hear those conversations all the time about how you should

2435
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:10,040
Speaker 1: handle your time, put your goals to a side. Like

2436
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:12,959
Speaker 1: that conversation takes place a lot in a kid's childhood

2437
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:16,400
Speaker 1: and as a young adult, I feel like something has

2438
01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:18,960
Speaker 1: to happen to you, whether it's borrowing forty five dollars

2439
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:21,280
Speaker 1: and realizing I have to borrow forty five dollars to

2440
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:23,760
Speaker 1: go hear this person talk for it to finally like

2441
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:24,920
Speaker 1: resonate with somebody.

2442
01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:25,760
Speaker 2: And I think.

2443
01:48:25,680 --> 01:48:28,680
Speaker 1: That's just awesome that people who listen to this show

2444
01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:30,599
Speaker 1: listen to other shows. They'll hear a bunch of nuggets

2445
01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 1: all the time. But it takes a certain perception and

2446
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:35,560
Speaker 1: you have to be going through something for it to

2447
01:48:35,640 --> 01:48:37,120
Speaker 1: really like set inside your body.

2448
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:38,680
Speaker 2: Do something else happened to me, So when I was

2449
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:40,800
Speaker 2: working in that fabric warehouse, this was all within a

2450
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:43,920
Speaker 2: three month period. The whole Saban comes to Town thing

2451
01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:46,720
Speaker 2: like the same two or three month period. The guy

2452
01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:49,960
Speaker 2: who owned the fabric warehouse name was David Rothchild, ultra

2453
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 2: wealthy family had made a fortunate textiles. Columbus is a

2454
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:57,240
Speaker 2: textile like an old milltown. So he was dying of cancer,

2455
01:48:58,360 --> 01:49:00,240
Speaker 2: and he had always taken a liking to me. I'm

2456
01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:02,120
Speaker 2: working back in his warehouse. I don't see him that

2457
01:49:02,240 --> 01:49:03,960
Speaker 2: much except when he comes through there, like once a day,

2458
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:05,439
Speaker 2: but he'd always taken a liking to me. He would

2459
01:49:05,479 --> 01:49:08,639
Speaker 2: always catch up with me. I had not finished college

2460
01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:11,799
Speaker 2: at that point, and he would like, nicely but very forcefully,

2461
01:49:11,880 --> 01:49:15,519
Speaker 2: tell me you're screwing your life up, like you've got ability.

2462
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:17,519
Speaker 2: He saw way more in me than I saw in myself,

2463
01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:21,080
Speaker 2: and so he promised me, like, if you'll I'm going

2464
01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 2: to die, like I am not going to see this through,

2465
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:25,840
Speaker 2: but I will pay for your school if you will

2466
01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:28,519
Speaker 2: get back in school. And like, simultaneous to that, the

2467
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 2: director of the communication department at Columbus State University's just

2468
01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:35,799
Speaker 2: hammering me via email. She doesn't know, she's not related

2469
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:37,760
Speaker 2: to me, she doesn't owe me that, but she's hitting

2470
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:39,519
Speaker 2: me up saying get back in school, Like I'll get

2471
01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:40,920
Speaker 2: you back in school. We're gonna have a radio and

2472
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:43,360
Speaker 2: TV program over here. You could do all the reps

2473
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:45,439
Speaker 2: that you need over here. And so all that stuff

2474
01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:47,600
Speaker 2: happens over a three month period and you realize, like

2475
01:49:47,720 --> 01:49:50,760
Speaker 2: you've got to be a total and complete idiot not

2476
01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:55,080
Speaker 2: to see that there is something slash, someone trying to

2477
01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 2: kick you in the right direction. And so that all,

2478
01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:01,479
Speaker 2: like that's what it's overteen years ago. But that's all

2479
01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:05,200
Speaker 2: a confluence of events. And like I always heard people

2480
01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:07,840
Speaker 2: say right place, right time, I always question that, Like

2481
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:11,360
Speaker 2: I changed my thinking because of all this. I changed

2482
01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:14,600
Speaker 2: my thinking too, where being in the right place is

2483
01:50:14,640 --> 01:50:16,320
Speaker 2: where you want to be so that eventually the right

2484
01:50:16,360 --> 01:50:19,840
Speaker 2: time finds you. I changed my thinking because of like that.

2485
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:21,800
Speaker 2: It's just like I changed my thinking on here and

2486
01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:23,640
Speaker 2: save and say stuff like that. I used to hear it,

2487
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:25,600
Speaker 2: and I thought those statements where a diamond does. And

2488
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:28,719
Speaker 2: that's like fortune cookie logic looks good on a bumper sticker,

2489
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:32,080
Speaker 2: but it's coach speak. It's cliches. It's just people go

2490
01:50:32,200 --> 01:50:35,920
Speaker 2: into motivational speaking seminars near the airport and someone fooled

2491
01:50:35,920 --> 01:50:38,240
Speaker 2: them into buying a ticket. No, man, that stuff works,

2492
01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:40,920
Speaker 2: It's just hardly anyone applies it. Yeah, if you apply it,

2493
01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:43,479
Speaker 2: it works for everybody. That's the beauty of it. It

2494
01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:45,320
Speaker 2: doesn't matter if you want to get in this or

2495
01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:47,280
Speaker 2: you want to go like start a new insurance company

2496
01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:49,120
Speaker 2: and make a fortune over there. Like, if that's what

2497
01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:51,120
Speaker 2: you're called to do, you can do it. It's just

2498
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:52,920
Speaker 2: not going to happen overnight, and it's a good thing.

2499
01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 2: It doesn't happen overnight, or everyone would do it.

2500
01:50:55,200 --> 01:50:57,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, when all this is happening around you, what do

2501
01:50:57,520 --> 01:50:58,760
Speaker 3: you feel like when you look back on it? What

2502
01:50:58,840 --> 01:50:59,800
Speaker 3: do you feel like you weren't saying?

2503
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:07,280
Speaker 2: I feel like the thing I appreciate the most looking

2504
01:51:07,320 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 2: back on it because I journaled a lot through this period.

2505
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:12,439
Speaker 2: I'd never done that before, but I knew what I'm

2506
01:51:12,479 --> 01:51:14,919
Speaker 2: going through now, Like I got a victim from my apartment.

2507
01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:17,439
Speaker 2: It was not it was not a great time. It's

2508
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:20,120
Speaker 2: it turns out good, but it's not a good time.

2509
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:23,479
Speaker 2: And I realized, one way or the other, I'm gonna

2510
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:25,360
Speaker 2: want a record of this. So like, I journaled a

2511
01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:26,760
Speaker 2: lot of it, and I look back on it now,

2512
01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:28,720
Speaker 2: and the one thing I kept saying is I got

2513
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:30,439
Speaker 2: no clue how this is going to turn out. I

2514
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 2: got no clue how I'm going to make this bill

2515
01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:34,080
Speaker 2: the next month. I got no clue here and no

2516
01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:36,439
Speaker 2: clue there. But like, I know what I'm doing is worthwhile,

2517
01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:40,200
Speaker 2: and so I know, if I'm right about this, what

2518
01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:42,240
Speaker 2: I'm experiencing is going to be so valuable for so

2519
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:44,439
Speaker 2: many people. That's why I don't hesitate and telling the

2520
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:46,720
Speaker 2: story a whole lot. It's certainly not bragging. You don't

2521
01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:48,680
Speaker 2: brag about getting evicted or anything, or being broke, but

2522
01:51:48,760 --> 01:51:51,960
Speaker 2: you bragged that you know, there are there are kids

2523
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:54,519
Speaker 2: who grow up dirt poor and they got like that

2524
01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:57,040
Speaker 2: caged animal syndrome their whole life. There are kids who

2525
01:51:57,080 --> 01:51:59,160
Speaker 2: grew up rich and it doesn't matter how many mistakes

2526
01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 2: they make, cause the law always be set for life.

2527
01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:04,120
Speaker 2: There is like an ocean of tweeners out there. I

2528
01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:06,240
Speaker 2: was one of them. I was lower middle class, but

2529
01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:08,599
Speaker 2: like I was not worrying about where my next meal

2530
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:10,600
Speaker 2: was going to come from as a kid. But I

2531
01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:13,519
Speaker 2: also wasn't set for life as a kid. And so

2532
01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:14,960
Speaker 2: you get out of high school and you don't know

2533
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:16,680
Speaker 2: what you want to do, and then you're twenty, then

2534
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:18,559
Speaker 2: you're twenty two, then you're twenty four. You still really

2535
01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:21,320
Speaker 2: haven't made anything of yourself. You know you've got potential,

2536
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:23,000
Speaker 2: you know you got talent, we all do, but you're

2537
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:25,840
Speaker 2: just like floating. You're pissing away time, You're pissing away

2538
01:52:26,040 --> 01:52:28,679
Speaker 2: years of your life. And so like, I didn't really

2539
01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:31,360
Speaker 2: even start having that click till I'm like thirty years old,

2540
01:52:31,680 --> 01:52:35,040
Speaker 2: and I realized, if I make something of myself, imagine

2541
01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:38,800
Speaker 2: how this. Imagine how this plays to an audience of

2542
01:52:38,920 --> 01:52:42,120
Speaker 2: twenty two year olds, Because I know forever there will

2543
01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:44,320
Speaker 2: be tweeners in life who were sitting out there and

2544
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:47,000
Speaker 2: they just want something to light a fire under them. Well,

2545
01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 2: what better than someone who can say, yeah, I was

2546
01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:51,960
Speaker 2: right there where you were. Like, if you're broke, you

2547
01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:54,599
Speaker 2: got no other option than to work or you're going

2548
01:52:54,680 --> 01:52:58,880
Speaker 2: to die, Like you're not going anywhere. If you're rich, eh, whatever.

2549
01:52:59,240 --> 01:53:01,400
Speaker 2: But if you're a twin and that's like a huge

2550
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:04,880
Speaker 2: population of the United States of America's youth at any

2551
01:53:04,920 --> 01:53:07,840
Speaker 2: given point, no one's really feeling sorry for you. But

2552
01:53:07,960 --> 01:53:10,920
Speaker 2: no one's handing you a whole lot either. That I

2553
01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:13,720
Speaker 2: told myself even at the time, that's who I want

2554
01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 2: to speak to one day, if I ever make it.

2555
01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:16,840
Speaker 2: That's who I want to speak to I love that.

2556
01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:19,920
Speaker 3: What was going through your mind when CBS was starting

2557
01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:23,240
Speaker 3: to get on your tail for you know, launching. You

2558
01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:25,439
Speaker 3: had done your show on YouTube for two years, then

2559
01:53:25,479 --> 01:53:27,759
Speaker 3: you get picked up by CBS. What was the feeling

2560
01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:30,240
Speaker 3: like in your body, in your mind when those phone

2561
01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:31,160
Speaker 3: calls are starting to happen.

2562
01:53:31,200 --> 01:53:33,559
Speaker 2: It's a little bit of So it's validation. I mean,

2563
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:39,120
Speaker 2: it's validation number one, that someone noticed. It's validation that

2564
01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:41,400
Speaker 2: they were going to pay me seventy thousand dollars a year,

2565
01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:44,519
Speaker 2: because that's triple maybe even quadruple when I was making

2566
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:46,040
Speaker 2: at that point. I was making nothing at that point.

2567
01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:48,560
Speaker 2: Actually YouTube is started to do okay, but still, like

2568
01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:51,680
Speaker 2: there's a thing like when you play your first down

2569
01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:54,960
Speaker 2: in the NFL, you made it as a pro football player.

2570
01:53:55,160 --> 01:53:56,600
Speaker 2: They'll never be able to take it away from you.

2571
01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:58,040
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if you get cut the next day

2572
01:53:58,040 --> 01:54:01,759
Speaker 2: you played in the NFL. The first day someone pays

2573
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:04,720
Speaker 2: you a company pays you to talk about sports on

2574
01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:07,840
Speaker 2: air is a very surreal moment. Even if there's paying

2575
01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:12,000
Speaker 2: you five bucks, it's a surreal moment because everybody in

2576
01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:14,760
Speaker 2: your life wants to do it, like everyone dreams of

2577
01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:18,479
Speaker 2: holding one of those like big network microphones and like

2578
01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:20,880
Speaker 2: you're actually getting paid, you're on national TV. So there

2579
01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:24,599
Speaker 2: was that piece, But then also there's all right, now

2580
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:27,320
Speaker 2: it's time to go to work and it's time to

2581
01:54:27,479 --> 01:54:29,920
Speaker 2: shake the tree, like we're gonna find out really how

2582
01:54:30,240 --> 01:54:33,040
Speaker 2: how well the root system is taken because you can't

2583
01:54:33,080 --> 01:54:35,600
Speaker 2: screw up. You're gonna screw up. But you're thinking this

2584
01:54:35,800 --> 01:54:37,920
Speaker 2: is a tightrope wall. You've been walking a tight rope

2585
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:39,960
Speaker 2: five feet off the ground. You're gonna be five hundred

2586
01:54:39,960 --> 01:54:41,760
Speaker 2: feet off the ground now and a lot more people

2587
01:54:41,800 --> 01:54:44,360
Speaker 2: are gonna see you, and you're gonna be exposed in

2588
01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:47,240
Speaker 2: every way imaginable. There's gonna be a lot of unfamiliar

2589
01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:50,600
Speaker 2: technical jargon. There's gonna be you know, a lot thinner air.

2590
01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:53,160
Speaker 2: You're gonna rub elbows with a lot of people you

2591
01:54:53,240 --> 01:54:55,960
Speaker 2: grew up watching as a kid, and you better not

2592
01:54:56,080 --> 01:54:57,920
Speaker 2: have stars in your eyes, like you better work with

2593
01:54:58,040 --> 01:55:00,160
Speaker 2: them and talk to them on their level, or if

2594
01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:02,280
Speaker 2: you're really what you think you are, you better be

2595
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:04,120
Speaker 2: able to walk in that setting and own the room,

2596
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:06,440
Speaker 2: Like how do you walk in there? I grew up

2597
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:08,960
Speaker 2: watching these guys and listening to these guys, But do

2598
01:55:09,080 --> 01:55:11,240
Speaker 2: you have the presence of mind to set that aside

2599
01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:13,360
Speaker 2: at the door and walk in there and own your

2600
01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:15,840
Speaker 2: craft so thoroughly that when you look at them like

2601
01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:18,600
Speaker 2: you're getting respect back from them, because like as a man,

2602
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 2: you know when you do and don't have someone's respect.

2603
01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:22,480
Speaker 2: And so that's kind of some of the stuff I

2604
01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:25,080
Speaker 2: was thinking about, and then also thinking, I think I'm

2605
01:55:25,080 --> 01:55:26,800
Speaker 2: prepared for this, but I know there's so much I'm

2606
01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:29,880
Speaker 2: unprepared for. Let's go do it anyway. Then you start

2607
01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:35,240
Speaker 2: doing it. Then COVID happens two months later. Yeah, that

2608
01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:38,400
Speaker 2: whole year, that whole year you're talking about it on

2609
01:55:38,520 --> 01:55:41,600
Speaker 2: your side, Imagine on my side. I moved to Nashville.

2610
01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:45,640
Speaker 2: You remember the tornado came through. Oh yeah, Hitar building.

2611
01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:50,120
Speaker 2: That's the first two months I'm here. COVID happens shortly thereafter,

2612
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:52,640
Speaker 2: like later that month is really when you start shutting down.

2613
01:55:53,080 --> 01:55:55,520
Speaker 2: And I always say this, and it sounds so bad,

2614
01:55:55,600 --> 01:55:58,920
Speaker 2: so I have to like really carefully preface it. COVID

2615
01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:01,840
Speaker 2: was terrible for a lot of people, and a lot

2616
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:03,640
Speaker 2: of people lost family members, Like it was a real

2617
01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:07,440
Speaker 2: serious deal. Professionally speaking, it was the biggest blessing I

2618
01:56:07,480 --> 01:56:09,880
Speaker 2: could ever have that it happened when it happened because

2619
01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:13,360
Speaker 2: I came here and then things shut down. And Shannon Terry,

2620
01:56:13,760 --> 01:56:15,520
Speaker 2: who was running twenty four to seven Sports, but that

2621
01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:18,160
Speaker 2: had been acquired by CBS, so like, I'm working for him,

2622
01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:20,160
Speaker 2: I'm working out of his building. He said, I'm going

2623
01:56:20,240 --> 01:56:22,520
Speaker 2: to get you emergency access to this building. No one's

2624
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:24,000
Speaker 2: going to be here for I don't know how long.

2625
01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:26,880
Speaker 2: No one's going to bother you. Just do what you

2626
01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:29,000
Speaker 2: think you need to do. And so we got like

2627
01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:32,640
Speaker 2: six months of doing the show our way on CBS's

2628
01:56:32,680 --> 01:56:36,400
Speaker 2: platforms with no corporate interference, and by the time people

2629
01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:38,720
Speaker 2: slowly started to come back, and by the time like

2630
01:56:38,840 --> 01:56:41,520
Speaker 2: the executive types started seeing it, it was already making money.

2631
01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:44,560
Speaker 2: It had already scaled, so they never even had time

2632
01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:46,680
Speaker 2: to I'm not saying they would have, but they never

2633
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:49,080
Speaker 2: had time or a reason to step in and try

2634
01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:51,520
Speaker 2: to change this or turn that knob or you know,

2635
01:56:51,640 --> 01:56:55,120
Speaker 2: course correct. At twenty degrees, it was already proven. By

2636
01:56:55,160 --> 01:56:57,680
Speaker 2: the time COVID had ended, it was already proven. So

2637
01:56:57,760 --> 01:56:58,800
Speaker 2: we were good to go at that point.

2638
01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:01,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, there's got to be a good feeling to

2639
01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:02,800
Speaker 1: be like, all right, I get to kind of just

2640
01:57:02,920 --> 01:57:04,880
Speaker 1: run with this thing. No one's expecting anything to work

2641
01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:07,000
Speaker 1: out anyway, because we're in the middle of like COVID,

2642
01:57:07,760 --> 01:57:10,120
Speaker 1: and then by the time it gets there, it's like, yeah,

2643
01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:12,120
Speaker 1: there's nothing to critique because if you're in there with

2644
01:57:12,160 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 1: everybody else, there's a chance that executives are going to

2645
01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:16,840
Speaker 1: bring you into a room but hey, maybe change this,

2646
01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:18,800
Speaker 1: maybe do that. Now you're second guessing yourself, but it's

2647
01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:20,600
Speaker 1: your creative process, so you don't want that the whole

2648
01:57:20,640 --> 01:57:22,920
Speaker 1: get messed up. So there's all these things that could

2649
01:57:23,080 --> 01:57:25,720
Speaker 1: different variables to mess you up in that process. Yeah,

2650
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:26,760
Speaker 1: that's a massive win.

2651
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:28,760
Speaker 2: We'll think about this. So you're in the exact same

2652
01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:30,920
Speaker 2: seat that I'm about to talk about what you're doing

2653
01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:35,839
Speaker 2: right now. You're creating jobs for untold hundreds to thousands

2654
01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:38,640
Speaker 2: of people down the road because companies watch what you're

2655
01:57:38,720 --> 01:57:41,360
Speaker 2: doing and you've massively scaled a product. You're doing it

2656
01:57:41,440 --> 01:57:44,080
Speaker 2: totally your way, like it's authentically yours. Everything's yours. So

2657
01:57:44,200 --> 01:57:46,640
Speaker 2: you've got pop, you got proof of performance. There's no

2658
01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:50,760
Speaker 2: questioning whether this works. There will be companies, there will

2659
01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:53,640
Speaker 2: be private equity firms, there'll be huge money that gets

2660
01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:57,720
Speaker 2: redirected towards trying to duplicate what you're doing and giving

2661
01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:00,800
Speaker 2: people jobs and putting them behind microphones. Otherwise wouldn't have

2662
01:58:00,840 --> 01:58:02,800
Speaker 2: been behind. Now at that point, they either sink or

2663
01:58:02,840 --> 01:58:05,560
Speaker 2: swim on their own, but you created an opportunity for someone.

2664
01:58:05,960 --> 01:58:07,920
Speaker 2: I was thinking that, Like I still think that today,

2665
01:58:07,960 --> 01:58:11,000
Speaker 2: but I was thinking that, Okay, CBS has kind of

2666
01:58:11,120 --> 01:58:14,760
Speaker 2: made me the test pilot program. Like Big Networks five

2667
01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:17,280
Speaker 2: years ago. They're not really in the business of going

2668
01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:20,320
Speaker 2: and finding some guy on YouTube and putting him in

2669
01:58:20,440 --> 01:58:23,160
Speaker 2: their chair. They're in the business of we're going to

2670
01:58:23,200 --> 01:58:25,280
Speaker 2: find someone who's already proven, or we're gonna take former

2671
01:58:25,320 --> 01:58:27,720
Speaker 2: players coaches, Like it's a really tried and true formula.

2672
01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:29,680
Speaker 2: We've done this for one hundred years, so I get

2673
01:58:29,760 --> 01:58:31,640
Speaker 2: my shot. I'm thinking, yeah, this is big for me,

2674
01:58:32,160 --> 01:58:34,400
Speaker 2: but they're like one hundred, two hundred, five hundred other

2675
01:58:34,440 --> 01:58:37,000
Speaker 2: guys out there who may or may not ever get

2676
01:58:37,080 --> 01:58:40,200
Speaker 2: a life changing opportunity based on whether I make this

2677
01:58:40,360 --> 01:58:42,800
Speaker 2: work or not. And that was a really huge deal.

2678
01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:45,840
Speaker 2: Like that's part of legacy, that's part of something that

2679
01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:48,320
Speaker 2: extends well beyond yourself, and like I think about that

2680
01:58:48,360 --> 01:58:49,640
Speaker 2: stuff every day. COVID.

2681
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:51,680
Speaker 1: There's an interesting time because they feel like the media

2682
01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:54,040
Speaker 1: changed in so many ways. You're bringing up the suits earlier.

2683
01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:57,760
Speaker 1: And like I was with CAA as my agents for football,

2684
01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:00,600
Speaker 1: and I went to LA I saw like their death

2685
01:59:00,640 --> 01:59:02,920
Speaker 1: starts what they call it. And in the music department,

2686
01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:06,440
Speaker 1: nobody wears suits because at one point in like the sixties,

2687
01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:09,440
Speaker 1: seventies or eighties, whenever it was, a band came in

2688
01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:12,760
Speaker 1: that everyone wanted to rep. They came into CIA and

2689
01:59:12,840 --> 01:59:14,440
Speaker 1: they and they were like, you guys are all suits.

2690
01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:16,920
Speaker 1: We can't trust you guys, but ball you guys don't

2691
01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:18,680
Speaker 1: know the brand, you don't know the influence. You're gonna

2692
01:59:18,680 --> 01:59:21,680
Speaker 1: try to change us. The next day they had a meeting,

2693
01:59:22,080 --> 01:59:24,240
Speaker 1: a company wide meeting, saying, no one wears suits in

2694
01:59:24,280 --> 01:59:26,640
Speaker 1: the music department anymore, because we need these people to

2695
01:59:26,680 --> 01:59:28,840
Speaker 1: know that we're here for them. And then you go

2696
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:31,880
Speaker 1: fast forward to twenty twenty. You see Pat McAfee start

2697
01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:33,800
Speaker 1: taking off. You see these other podcasts start taking off.

2698
01:59:33,880 --> 01:59:37,560
Speaker 1: You're taking off. It feels to me like the suits

2699
01:59:37,720 --> 01:59:41,840
Speaker 1: of the mainstreams of mainstream sports media is slowly going away,

2700
01:59:42,200 --> 01:59:45,360
Speaker 1: and the Pat McAfee tank top kind of process is

2701
01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:48,320
Speaker 1: now taking over a little bit. So do you see

2702
01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:51,920
Speaker 1: that happening with ESPN, CBS and all these other major

2703
01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:52,960
Speaker 1: corporations in the future.

2704
01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:57,560
Speaker 2: McAfee's like Roger Banister. Basically Roger Banister, up until the

2705
01:59:57,600 --> 01:59:59,720
Speaker 2: point he ran the sub four minute mile lived in

2706
01:59:59,720 --> 02:00:02,000
Speaker 2: a wor world where people thought, oh, it's humanly impossible.

2707
02:00:02,520 --> 02:00:06,240
Speaker 2: So up until McAfee gets put on ESPN, even when

2708
02:00:06,280 --> 02:00:08,240
Speaker 2: he was independent, people would have told you, oh, you

2709
02:00:08,280 --> 02:00:11,320
Speaker 2: can't do that stuff on ESPN, though well you always could.

2710
02:00:11,840 --> 02:00:14,160
Speaker 2: It's just someone had to do it. Because once Roger

2711
02:00:14,200 --> 02:00:16,360
Speaker 2: bandaged to ran a sub four minute mile, then a

2712
02:00:16,400 --> 02:00:17,800
Speaker 2: bunch of other people ran u up for them. It

2713
02:00:18,320 --> 02:00:21,400
Speaker 2: was like fifty's like seventy. The next year broke four minutes.

2714
02:00:21,440 --> 02:00:24,480
Speaker 2: The question becomes did they all just become capable of

2715
02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:26,480
Speaker 2: doing it cause Roger did it, or were a bunch

2716
02:00:26,520 --> 02:00:28,280
Speaker 2: of people capable of it and just had to see

2717
02:00:28,320 --> 02:00:31,600
Speaker 2: it happen. So similarly, like, you've got to be an

2718
02:00:31,600 --> 02:00:34,720
Speaker 2: idiot to not have known that. All the while sports

2719
02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:37,840
Speaker 2: fans who are consuming content are sitting at home looking

2720
02:00:37,840 --> 02:00:39,800
Speaker 2: a whole lot more like that than they are wearing

2721
02:00:39,800 --> 02:00:40,040
Speaker 2: a suit.

2722
02:00:40,080 --> 02:00:44,480
Speaker 1: They probably don't look that Good's age Nick Simon.

2723
02:00:44,600 --> 02:00:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like the point is, again, who are you

2724
02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:50,960
Speaker 2: stacking your show for for a long time? Suits, if

2725
02:00:50,960 --> 02:00:52,320
Speaker 2: you want to call him that, just people at the

2726
02:00:52,360 --> 02:00:55,840
Speaker 2: executive level, people with seven figure earnings and golden parachutes.

2727
02:00:55,840 --> 02:00:59,160
Speaker 2: If they fail, they have formatted their content for themselves

2728
02:00:59,800 --> 02:01:03,640
Speaker 2: in the lieu of knowing it doesn't matter what we present,

2729
02:01:03,920 --> 02:01:06,480
Speaker 2: they'll consume it because there are no other options. Well,

2730
02:01:06,560 --> 02:01:09,480
Speaker 2: bad news for them when digital media came of age

2731
02:01:09,640 --> 02:01:12,480
Speaker 2: is well, now there are options fully on demand world.

2732
02:01:12,520 --> 02:01:14,160
Speaker 2: That's the beauty of what you do. It's the beauty

2733
02:01:14,160 --> 02:01:16,720
Speaker 2: of what I do. The audience is in full control.

2734
02:01:17,160 --> 02:01:20,600
Speaker 2: Like you have never accidentally gotten a viewer. Every viewer

2735
02:01:20,680 --> 02:01:24,160
Speaker 2: has intentionally sought out your video, sought out your social feeds,

2736
02:01:24,200 --> 02:01:26,760
Speaker 2: sought out your podcast. Same with me. If you're on

2737
02:01:26,920 --> 02:01:29,839
Speaker 2: network TV, you may see me because you're in an airport.

2738
02:01:30,280 --> 02:01:32,080
Speaker 2: You may just see me because you're in a barbershop.

2739
02:01:32,120 --> 02:01:33,760
Speaker 2: I happened to be on and so for a long

2740
02:01:33,880 --> 02:01:36,760
Speaker 2: time they didn't really have true feedback. What they were

2741
02:01:36,800 --> 02:01:39,200
Speaker 2: doing was working because there was no competition in the marketplace.

2742
02:01:39,240 --> 02:01:42,720
Speaker 2: Now there's competition in the marketplace, and magically you're willing

2743
02:01:42,800 --> 02:01:45,640
Speaker 2: to bend on things like on air wardrobe and you know,

2744
02:01:45,720 --> 02:01:48,240
Speaker 2: people who don't watch sports may say, do you really

2745
02:01:48,320 --> 02:01:51,040
Speaker 2: think that's why Pat mcafew works because of what he wears. No,

2746
02:01:51,720 --> 02:01:54,760
Speaker 2: what he wears is authentic to himself, and that's why

2747
02:01:54,880 --> 02:01:56,840
Speaker 2: it works, the same as you, the same as me.

2748
02:01:57,160 --> 02:01:59,560
Speaker 2: It's just that fifteen years ago you weren't allowed to

2749
02:01:59,640 --> 02:02:01,760
Speaker 2: present that way because someone who really didn't know the

2750
02:02:01,840 --> 02:02:04,800
Speaker 2: audience but owned the keys to the audience controlled that.

2751
02:02:05,040 --> 02:02:07,400
Speaker 2: And now they don't, and you find out it really

2752
02:02:07,520 --> 02:02:09,280
Speaker 2: never mattered what you were on air to begin with.

2753
02:02:09,520 --> 02:02:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, great reminder for everybody tuning in right now to

2754
02:02:12,080 --> 02:02:14,240
Speaker 3: subscribe to Bust with the Boys as you are watching

2755
02:02:14,280 --> 02:02:19,879
Speaker 3: and four minute mile, just take your thumb, hit that subscribe,

2756
02:02:19,920 --> 02:02:22,000
Speaker 3: but just hit the button. I love that you brought

2757
02:02:22,040 --> 02:02:24,440
Speaker 3: up the Roger Bannister analogy. I feel like I heard

2758
02:02:24,480 --> 02:02:26,720
Speaker 3: that from Tony Robbins like back in college.

2759
02:02:28,480 --> 02:02:30,680
Speaker 1: Take a bis. I enjoying it so much.

2760
02:02:30,760 --> 02:02:32,840
Speaker 3: I will say, Uh, he had to be last night

2761
02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:34,560
Speaker 3: on his show and he had about an hour left,

2762
02:02:34,600 --> 02:02:35,680
Speaker 3: but he was gonna fight through.

2763
02:02:35,640 --> 02:02:36,800
Speaker 1: For the betterment of the audience.

2764
02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:41,480
Speaker 2: I pushed and well, I was just gonna let you

2765
02:02:41,560 --> 02:02:44,760
Speaker 2: know I consumed your yeah you're down? That was before

2766
02:02:44,840 --> 02:02:47,960
Speaker 2: or after the Nebraska prediction. I feel that was after h.

2767
02:02:48,080 --> 02:02:50,160
Speaker 3: No, that was before before I was, you know, not

2768
02:02:50,240 --> 02:02:51,440
Speaker 3: the flex, but I was in my weight room.

2769
02:02:52,440 --> 02:02:55,320
Speaker 1: Is now the time to get into football? Or should

2770
02:02:55,360 --> 02:02:57,520
Speaker 1: we kind of save that for the locker room? Because

2771
02:02:57,560 --> 02:02:59,920
Speaker 1: pi's gonna be on every week during football, so there'll be.

2772
02:03:00,160 --> 02:03:02,080
Speaker 3: Things that we can some headlines we can talk about.

2773
02:03:02,160 --> 02:03:04,920
Speaker 3: But for everybody watching our new show, The Locker Room

2774
02:03:04,960 --> 02:03:07,720
Speaker 3: with College Football with this trio right here, this three

2775
02:03:07,760 --> 02:03:10,600
Speaker 3: headed monster will kick off Wednesday evening where we'll be

2776
02:03:10,720 --> 02:03:12,600
Speaker 3: going over all of our futures for the college.

2777
02:03:16,840 --> 02:03:19,920
Speaker 1: Just got here. Hey, people didn't see this coming. Haters

2778
02:03:19,960 --> 02:03:21,000
Speaker 1: are swinging at the air right now.

2779
02:03:22,240 --> 02:03:25,400
Speaker 2: They did it again. Yeah, they're scrambling, scrambling right now?

2780
02:03:26,480 --> 02:03:27,040
Speaker 1: Is there?

2781
02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:30,480
Speaker 3: Like, dude, I've I've enjoyed all of this conversation and

2782
02:03:30,560 --> 02:03:34,080
Speaker 3: I fucking love your thought process and I was I

2783
02:03:34,200 --> 02:03:36,320
Speaker 3: wanted to interrupt you, but I feel like everything you

2784
02:03:36,520 --> 02:03:40,040
Speaker 3: explained about what you were feeling to when you were

2785
02:03:40,520 --> 02:03:43,760
Speaker 3: getting up in the big leagues, the CBS, the am

2786
02:03:43,840 --> 02:03:46,120
Speaker 3: I who I say, I am? All of those feelings,

2787
02:03:46,160 --> 02:03:50,240
Speaker 3: all of those processes, right there is. What we are

2788
02:03:50,320 --> 02:03:53,240
Speaker 3: explaining is I feel like a similar experience that you're

2789
02:03:53,280 --> 02:03:57,040
Speaker 3: explaining walking out into a college stadium or an NFL

2790
02:03:57,080 --> 02:04:00,760
Speaker 3: stadium without the just the theatrics and the adrenaline aside

2791
02:04:00,800 --> 02:04:03,680
Speaker 3: from the adrenaline dump and everything else, that thought process

2792
02:04:03,760 --> 02:04:06,480
Speaker 3: of caring so fucking much about what you do and

2793
02:04:06,600 --> 02:04:08,560
Speaker 3: how hard you work at it, and having so much

2794
02:04:08,640 --> 02:04:11,320
Speaker 3: perspective on how you got where you are, and hey,

2795
02:04:11,480 --> 02:04:13,520
Speaker 3: am I who I think I am? I'm gonna there's

2796
02:04:13,560 --> 02:04:15,240
Speaker 3: some I don't knows and some question marks, but I'm

2797
02:04:15,240 --> 02:04:17,400
Speaker 3: willing to jump and go after it with competition, with

2798
02:04:17,480 --> 02:04:19,880
Speaker 3: everything else around that, right, there is a mentality that

2799
02:04:20,080 --> 02:04:22,760
Speaker 3: gives I feel like the anxieties of everything you do,

2800
02:04:22,880 --> 02:04:25,040
Speaker 3: whether you walk out into a stadium or you're just

2801
02:04:25,160 --> 02:04:27,920
Speaker 3: elevating at your next job or going into your big

2802
02:04:28,040 --> 02:04:30,000
Speaker 3: league so without the stage and everything else, I feel

2803
02:04:30,000 --> 02:04:33,200
Speaker 3: like that is a very similar feeling that every competitor

2804
02:04:33,280 --> 02:04:35,040
Speaker 3: has when like walking out into the arena.

2805
02:04:35,760 --> 02:04:39,000
Speaker 2: That's the competition, Like, that's it's not do I get

2806
02:04:39,000 --> 02:04:41,360
Speaker 2: more views than the other dude? That's how I think

2807
02:04:41,400 --> 02:04:42,280
Speaker 2: you define competition.

2808
02:04:42,560 --> 02:04:45,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's like that. Yeah, everything you were kind

2809
02:04:45,360 --> 02:04:46,800
Speaker 3: of walking through when you got that call in my

2810
02:04:46,920 --> 02:04:48,360
Speaker 3: this I'm gonna be in am I going to own

2811
02:04:48,360 --> 02:04:48,640
Speaker 3: the room?

2812
02:04:48,640 --> 02:04:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna feel this way?

2813
02:04:49,560 --> 02:04:51,120
Speaker 3: Can I put my ego out the door because I'm

2814
02:04:51,120 --> 02:04:52,680
Speaker 3: gonna be lined up across from so and so, or

2815
02:04:52,720 --> 02:04:54,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be talking on the desk and so and so.

2816
02:04:55,120 --> 02:04:57,000
Speaker 3: I feel like all of it is the same mentality

2817
02:04:57,080 --> 02:05:01,680
Speaker 3: because you care so much about your success or your

2818
02:05:01,800 --> 02:05:02,880
Speaker 3: version of success.

2819
02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:03,240
Speaker 1: In your world.

2820
02:05:03,640 --> 02:05:06,120
Speaker 3: So I feel like that is the that is the

2821
02:05:06,240 --> 02:05:09,360
Speaker 3: bridging of the gap between the normal person and them

2822
02:05:09,400 --> 02:05:11,880
Speaker 3: seeing somebody at some high level doing it, It's like, no,

2823
02:05:12,040 --> 02:05:14,120
Speaker 3: you're yours can be there too. It's just how much

2824
02:05:14,160 --> 02:05:15,960
Speaker 3: you're pouring into that process. And when that brea big

2825
02:05:16,040 --> 02:05:18,200
Speaker 3: break does come. Just know that is the feeling that

2826
02:05:18,280 --> 02:05:21,840
Speaker 3: everybody feels of jumping into something they're very uncomfortable about.

2827
02:05:21,880 --> 02:05:23,960
Speaker 2: That's but when the big break happens. The awesome thing

2828
02:05:24,040 --> 02:05:26,280
Speaker 2: is when you get wired that way. The big break

2829
02:05:26,440 --> 02:05:29,040
Speaker 2: is when you're a kid, you envision it whatever is

2830
02:05:29,120 --> 02:05:31,360
Speaker 2: going to come of your life. When the big things happen,

2831
02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:35,040
Speaker 2: there's confetti, there's parties, there's slaps on the back, and

2832
02:05:35,160 --> 02:05:38,560
Speaker 2: then when you actually wire yourself, the way you have

2833
02:05:38,720 --> 02:05:41,080
Speaker 2: to be wired to even get the break. You're wired

2834
02:05:41,120 --> 02:05:43,800
Speaker 2: in such a way where you celebrate for ten minutes, yes,

2835
02:05:44,040 --> 02:05:45,680
Speaker 2: and you just are next.

2836
02:05:46,040 --> 02:05:48,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's not like unless you're selling a company

2837
02:05:48,800 --> 02:05:49,880
Speaker 1: and retireing, that's it.

2838
02:05:50,200 --> 02:05:50,920
Speaker 2: That's the difference.

2839
02:05:51,040 --> 02:05:54,240
Speaker 1: Once you get the big break, whether it's financially or

2840
02:05:54,280 --> 02:05:57,240
Speaker 1: you've you've actually some one snap in the NFL stap NFL,

2841
02:05:57,280 --> 02:05:59,240
Speaker 1: it's like you can celebrate that as a perfect level.

2842
02:05:59,280 --> 02:06:00,760
Speaker 1: You can celebarate for five seconds because then there's the

2843
02:06:00,800 --> 02:06:04,000
Speaker 1: second coming right there. But like, you get the job

2844
02:06:04,080 --> 02:06:06,680
Speaker 1: you wanted, you get the you, you get the someone's like,

2845
02:06:06,720 --> 02:06:08,160
Speaker 1: hey you can do this. Now you get more money

2846
02:06:08,240 --> 02:06:11,120
Speaker 1: whatever it is. That's exciting. But then now the work

2847
02:06:11,160 --> 02:06:13,480
Speaker 1: actually has to come in to prove whoever gave you

2848
02:06:13,520 --> 02:06:16,040
Speaker 1: the opportunity right, And that's where it's like you really

2849
02:06:16,080 --> 02:06:18,160
Speaker 1: have no time to go and sit there and be like,

2850
02:06:18,200 --> 02:06:19,680
Speaker 1: look how great I am. It's like you truly have

2851
02:06:19,720 --> 02:06:21,440
Speaker 1: to be on to the next thing. Then it's the

2852
02:06:21,520 --> 02:06:23,640
Speaker 1: whole When do you reflect when you look in the

2853
02:06:23,680 --> 02:06:26,000
Speaker 1: rearview mirror and be like, okay, I was able to

2854
02:06:26,080 --> 02:06:28,240
Speaker 1: achieve all this. But then if you do that for

2855
02:06:28,360 --> 02:06:30,320
Speaker 1: too long, now you're losing what's in front of you.

2856
02:06:30,760 --> 02:06:33,720
Speaker 1: It's a very interesting game of balance that needs to

2857
02:06:33,760 --> 02:06:36,080
Speaker 1: take place because there always has to be gratitude. But

2858
02:06:36,560 --> 02:06:38,480
Speaker 1: if you're wired the way we are, it's like, hey,

2859
02:06:38,600 --> 02:06:42,000
Speaker 1: what is the next step towards the end goal which

2860
02:06:42,120 --> 02:06:45,000
Speaker 1: truly we don't know, which is actually dying, like you

2861
02:06:45,160 --> 02:06:47,360
Speaker 1: just eventually die, and it's like, how do you do that?

2862
02:06:48,880 --> 02:06:50,280
Speaker 1: You get up there and he pulls up the scroll

2863
02:06:50,320 --> 02:06:53,080
Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, not that, not that could have

2864
02:06:53,120 --> 02:06:54,400
Speaker 1: done better here though, yea. You know.

2865
02:06:54,640 --> 02:06:57,040
Speaker 3: That's why I also appreciated going over the parts where

2866
02:06:57,040 --> 02:06:58,960
Speaker 3: you've said no to a lot of people are said

2867
02:06:59,000 --> 02:07:01,920
Speaker 3: no to some things because I think another thing that

2868
02:07:02,080 --> 02:07:05,360
Speaker 3: successful people or achievers have a hard time doing of

2869
02:07:05,480 --> 02:07:08,480
Speaker 3: getting the goalpost to stop moving when you know what

2870
02:07:08,680 --> 02:07:11,000
Speaker 3: I am doing is enough and I know, hey, not

2871
02:07:11,120 --> 02:07:13,400
Speaker 3: that you're relaxed. I'm just going to be doing this. Foreverybody,

2872
02:07:13,600 --> 02:07:16,520
Speaker 3: this doesn't necessarily tie to what I want to do

2873
02:07:16,640 --> 02:07:18,200
Speaker 3: with my audience or what I want to do in

2874
02:07:18,240 --> 02:07:21,400
Speaker 3: the future. And you're you're able to say no to

2875
02:07:21,440 --> 02:07:23,360
Speaker 3: those people, which probably makes you It does make you

2876
02:07:23,440 --> 02:07:25,200
Speaker 3: more valuable because I'm sure those numbers go up and

2877
02:07:25,200 --> 02:07:26,520
Speaker 3: they're try to dangle a beer carrot.

2878
02:07:26,920 --> 02:07:28,560
Speaker 1: One day, they'll probably be a character. Why you can't

2879
02:07:28,600 --> 02:07:31,720
Speaker 1: say no to carrot? Maybe it's the commissioner of college football.

2880
02:07:31,840 --> 02:07:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Or maybe you just grow the garden. Maybe you

2881
02:07:34,120 --> 02:07:37,800
Speaker 2: just grow the garden. Hey, yeah, maybe we feed everybody.

2882
02:07:38,680 --> 02:07:40,040
Speaker 2: I don't like that I saw.

2883
02:07:40,440 --> 02:07:41,360
Speaker 3: Do you just grow the garden?

2884
02:07:41,560 --> 02:07:42,040
Speaker 2: Hey? Uh?

2885
02:07:42,680 --> 02:07:43,920
Speaker 3: I saw one. I want to say it was like

2886
02:07:43,960 --> 02:07:46,240
Speaker 3: a stoic meditation. It was like he who chases two

2887
02:07:46,360 --> 02:07:49,280
Speaker 3: rabbits stays hungry. Why not grow the carrots?

2888
02:07:50,840 --> 02:07:51,480
Speaker 2: Sounds easy?

2889
02:07:52,000 --> 02:07:54,600
Speaker 3: Sounds yeah, it sounds easy in theory. Yeah, you know what,

2890
02:07:54,760 --> 02:07:56,880
Speaker 3: let's just stop chasing around. Let's just grow the garden.

2891
02:07:57,040 --> 02:07:59,960
Speaker 2: You know they have like when you turn down opportunities, though,

2892
02:08:00,520 --> 02:08:02,760
Speaker 2: there is almost like a who do you think you are?

2893
02:08:03,800 --> 02:08:04,760
Speaker 2: Like the audacity?

2894
02:08:04,880 --> 02:08:06,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, how could you say no to us?

2895
02:08:06,320 --> 02:08:08,160
Speaker 2: And it's like, well, I mean, do you understand the

2896
02:08:08,200 --> 02:08:09,040
Speaker 2: concept of alignment?

2897
02:08:09,360 --> 02:08:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2898
02:08:10,000 --> 02:08:12,000
Speaker 2: The concept just like how that works? I mean, would

2899
02:08:12,040 --> 02:08:14,080
Speaker 2: you would you put this show on your network?

2900
02:08:14,200 --> 02:08:14,240
Speaker 1: No?

2901
02:08:14,440 --> 02:08:18,040
Speaker 2: Why not? Well because it doesn't fit our network. You

2902
02:08:18,240 --> 02:08:21,200
Speaker 2: just describe who I'm telling you know, right, no hard feelings,

2903
02:08:21,280 --> 02:08:22,320
Speaker 2: like that's just why I'm telling you no.

2904
02:08:22,440 --> 02:08:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the person who wants to put the square

2905
02:08:23,920 --> 02:08:26,160
Speaker 1: peg in the round hole. Dude, it's it's very difficult

2906
02:08:26,160 --> 02:08:27,760
Speaker 1: when you don't have a whole lot and you're just

2907
02:08:28,200 --> 02:08:31,120
Speaker 1: constantly wanting success and you think more as better as

2908
02:08:31,160 --> 02:08:33,920
Speaker 1: opposed to quality over quantity. Yeah, so it's just it's

2909
02:08:33,920 --> 02:08:36,520
Speaker 1: a game, man, It's a game of knowing who you are.

2910
02:08:37,000 --> 02:08:38,720
Speaker 1: And if somebody like you doesn't know who they are

2911
02:08:38,760 --> 02:08:40,720
Speaker 1: as much as they do, it's like you probably fall

2912
02:08:40,760 --> 02:08:42,040
Speaker 1: into that trap more times than once.

2913
02:08:42,160 --> 02:08:44,040
Speaker 2: If you're listening right now, okay, if you're watching this

2914
02:08:44,160 --> 02:08:47,280
Speaker 2: right now, so that's that's subscribe, absolutely, subscribe.

2915
02:08:47,280 --> 02:08:47,720
Speaker 3: Subscribe.

2916
02:08:47,720 --> 02:08:49,320
Speaker 2: Okay, what are you doing here? If you haven't? Yeah,

2917
02:08:50,000 --> 02:08:53,400
Speaker 2: this is the simplest question, Ask yourself, who am I?

2918
02:08:54,440 --> 02:08:56,680
Speaker 2: This is like, this is a mind bender for a

2919
02:08:56,720 --> 02:08:58,680
Speaker 2: lot of people because they will say they'll give you

2920
02:08:58,720 --> 02:09:01,840
Speaker 2: their name, or I'll give you their skin color, or

2921
02:09:01,880 --> 02:09:04,000
Speaker 2: their height and weight, or their hometown. That's not who

2922
02:09:04,040 --> 02:09:06,360
Speaker 2: you are. That's the stuff on your driver's license. Who

2923
02:09:06,440 --> 02:09:09,920
Speaker 2: are you? Like, dig the dagger into your chest, cut

2924
02:09:09,960 --> 02:09:12,480
Speaker 2: yourself open. Who are you? What are your talents? What

2925
02:09:12,560 --> 02:09:14,760
Speaker 2: are your passions? What are your likes and dislikes? What

2926
02:09:14,840 --> 02:09:18,760
Speaker 2: do you cut out to do, Like what is your purpose.

2927
02:09:18,640 --> 02:09:19,320
Speaker 1: All that stuff?

2928
02:09:19,840 --> 02:09:21,520
Speaker 2: If you asked me that at twenty three, I would

2929
02:09:21,560 --> 02:09:24,000
Speaker 2: have just stammered. I know that someone asked me this.

2930
02:09:24,360 --> 02:09:26,080
Speaker 2: I didn't have the answer. It's the same dude who

2931
02:09:26,080 --> 02:09:27,720
Speaker 2: asked me, why would anyone care what you have to say?

2932
02:09:27,880 --> 02:09:29,320
Speaker 2: He asked me, who are you? I didn't know how

2933
02:09:29,320 --> 02:09:31,080
Speaker 2: to answer that. Why would anyone care what you have

2934
02:09:31,160 --> 02:09:33,000
Speaker 2: to say? I didn't know how to answer that, which

2935
02:09:33,080 --> 02:09:35,000
Speaker 2: just meant I wasn't ready yet, which just meant you

2936
02:09:35,080 --> 02:09:37,120
Speaker 2: got years that you still have to put in. Didn't

2937
02:09:37,120 --> 02:09:38,760
Speaker 2: want to hear that at the time. I didn't accept

2938
02:09:38,800 --> 02:09:40,360
Speaker 2: it at the time, but it was a reality at

2939
02:09:40,400 --> 02:09:41,960
Speaker 2: the time. So it doesn't matter if you want to

2940
02:09:41,960 --> 02:09:44,640
Speaker 2: get into media or you want to build a trucking company,

2941
02:09:45,040 --> 02:09:48,640
Speaker 2: like who are you? How are you about to go anywhere?

2942
02:09:48,680 --> 02:09:50,320
Speaker 2: How are you about to build anything? Before you've even

2943
02:09:50,400 --> 02:09:53,240
Speaker 2: laid the foundation? That stuff? It mid mess me up.

2944
02:09:53,320 --> 02:09:55,360
Speaker 2: And when the guy asked me that those two questions,

2945
02:09:55,600 --> 02:09:57,640
Speaker 2: it messed me up so much. And now, like years later,

2946
02:09:57,800 --> 02:09:59,920
Speaker 2: I asked that to everybody when I speak at colleges,

2947
02:10:00,360 --> 02:10:01,280
Speaker 2: I asked that to everybody.

2948
02:10:01,600 --> 02:10:03,600
Speaker 3: Quick break from the episode, because we are brought to

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Speaker 1: Back to the episode on the topic of who people are?

2961
02:10:38,480 --> 02:10:42,080
Speaker 1: Who are the Nebraska Cornas is going to be this year, So.

2962
02:10:44,840 --> 02:10:46,880
Speaker 2: I feel like we're close enough to the season where

2963
02:10:46,920 --> 02:10:48,400
Speaker 2: a lot of people are going to start getting on

2964
02:10:48,520 --> 02:10:51,040
Speaker 2: the whole. Ooh, I just did my research. It looks

2965
02:10:51,080 --> 02:10:54,000
Speaker 2: like Matt Rulan year three is a big deal. Well,

2966
02:10:54,040 --> 02:10:55,320
Speaker 2: we've been saying that for a long time.

2967
02:10:55,480 --> 02:10:57,360
Speaker 1: Will I've saying that since the minute he was hired.

2968
02:10:57,360 --> 02:10:58,440
Speaker 1: It's like year three is the year.

2969
02:10:58,800 --> 02:11:02,839
Speaker 2: I don't think that those people know that even Holgerson

2970
02:11:02,880 --> 02:11:05,040
Speaker 2: is the offensive coordinator. I don't think most people know that.

2971
02:11:05,360 --> 02:11:10,680
Speaker 2: I don't think most Just so, I've got Dylan here,

2972
02:11:11,240 --> 02:11:13,800
Speaker 2: I've got Dana Holgerson here, and I just feel like

2973
02:11:13,960 --> 02:11:16,280
Speaker 2: that's about to happen this year. And even though they

2974
02:11:16,320 --> 02:11:18,000
Speaker 2: lost Tony to Florida State, which is a move I

2975
02:11:18,040 --> 02:11:19,920
Speaker 2: still question. By the way, even though they lost him

2976
02:11:19,920 --> 02:11:22,120
Speaker 2: to Florida State, I feel like the defensive personnel will

2977
02:11:22,160 --> 02:11:26,120
Speaker 2: be good enough that the scaling of offensive production, combined

2978
02:11:26,160 --> 02:11:28,080
Speaker 2: with what I think is the most workable Big ten

2979
02:11:28,120 --> 02:11:32,440
Speaker 2: schedule in the entire conference, there's such a path to

2980
02:11:32,560 --> 02:11:34,120
Speaker 2: ten and two, and I think ten and two gets

2981
02:11:34,200 --> 02:11:38,560
Speaker 2: him in. The question is the question is, oh God,

2982
02:11:38,920 --> 02:11:44,080
Speaker 2: The question is who's ready not to follow that prediction?

2983
02:11:44,320 --> 02:11:48,160
Speaker 2: But like, is anyone ready to top that prediction? That's

2984
02:11:48,160 --> 02:11:49,960
Speaker 2: what I came here to find out this morning, lash

2985
02:11:50,000 --> 02:11:50,640
Speaker 2: early afternoon.

2986
02:11:51,000 --> 02:11:54,600
Speaker 3: Hey, timeout, Now just for a little context on Josh

2987
02:11:54,680 --> 02:11:57,320
Speaker 3: Pate starting the bar at ten and two, you were

2988
02:11:57,360 --> 02:11:59,760
Speaker 3: at eight wins its nine?

2989
02:12:00,240 --> 02:12:04,000
Speaker 1: It was, yes, it was. Here's what I have to receive.

2990
02:12:04,040 --> 02:12:06,400
Speaker 1: It happened a little over a month ago, and nothing

2991
02:12:06,440 --> 02:12:07,760
Speaker 1: in nine and three.

2992
02:12:07,880 --> 02:12:10,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, July's vacation month, No one cares what happens in

2993
02:12:10,800 --> 02:12:12,520
Speaker 2: July August is rubber to the road.

2994
02:12:12,760 --> 02:12:14,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, fart and the wind.

2995
02:12:14,640 --> 02:12:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Influences from around the neighborhood have pushed me to

2996
02:12:18,240 --> 02:12:18,680
Speaker 2: ten wins.

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02:12:18,840 --> 02:12:21,720
Speaker 1: It was nine and three losses coming from Ohio, State,

2998
02:12:22,200 --> 02:12:25,000
Speaker 1: USC and Michigan.

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02:12:26,360 --> 02:12:32,640
Speaker 2: William Nebraska. I am ready to predict. I am ready

3000
02:12:32,720 --> 02:12:35,680
Speaker 2: to back with my own money that Nebraska will be

3001
02:12:35,840 --> 02:12:37,440
Speaker 2: better than six and six.

3002
02:12:37,920 --> 02:12:38,400
Speaker 3: This year.

3003
02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:42,840
Speaker 2: Could be seven wins, could be twelve wins. As it

3004
02:12:42,920 --> 02:12:45,760
Speaker 2: turns out, its ten wins. Look, if you don't believe

3005
02:12:45,760 --> 02:12:48,000
Speaker 2: in Nebraska better, hey, because he was trying to he was.

3006
02:12:48,440 --> 02:12:50,880
Speaker 2: He shot me that clip being like they never noticed

3007
02:12:50,880 --> 02:12:53,040
Speaker 2: when you toss love out shame. I said, better than

3008
02:12:53,040 --> 02:12:53,560
Speaker 2: six and six?

3009
02:12:53,680 --> 02:12:54,080
Speaker 3: Is love to you?

3010
02:12:54,200 --> 02:12:54,440
Speaker 1: Josh?

3011
02:12:55,040 --> 02:12:56,440
Speaker 3: He said that could mean twelve and oh. I said

3012
02:12:56,440 --> 02:12:58,240
Speaker 3: it could also mean seven and five, which.

3013
02:12:58,240 --> 02:13:00,240
Speaker 1: Is a floor for Nebraska here.

3014
02:13:00,320 --> 02:13:00,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you think so.

3015
02:13:01,200 --> 02:13:03,480
Speaker 1: I think that is a if you're a logical fan,

3016
02:13:04,040 --> 02:13:05,960
Speaker 1: you say that if you end the season at seven

3017
02:13:06,000 --> 02:13:08,600
Speaker 1: and five, you think we've gotten better. We've gotten better?

3018
02:13:08,720 --> 02:13:10,440
Speaker 1: How is that seven and five? Look, I think that

3019
02:13:10,520 --> 02:13:12,840
Speaker 1: determines a lot of things. You can't be like blow

3020
02:13:12,960 --> 02:13:16,080
Speaker 1: getting blown out five times but having slow with small wins.

3021
02:13:16,440 --> 02:13:18,840
Speaker 1: But if you go seven and five after not making

3022
02:13:18,880 --> 02:13:21,200
Speaker 1: a bowl games is twenty fifteen until twenty twenty four,

3023
02:13:21,960 --> 02:13:24,120
Speaker 1: you need to be proud of what your program is

3024
02:13:24,160 --> 02:13:25,200
Speaker 1: putting on putting out there.

3025
02:13:25,600 --> 02:13:26,320
Speaker 2: Do we agree with that?

3026
02:13:26,640 --> 02:13:29,760
Speaker 3: No? No, because no nobody really does. But hang on,

3027
02:13:29,840 --> 02:13:31,840
Speaker 3: before we go any farther, do you have Nebraska peg

3028
02:13:31,920 --> 02:13:32,920
Speaker 3: at seven and five this year?

3029
02:13:33,160 --> 02:13:36,800
Speaker 1: I that's a tough question. Let me have this conversation

3030
02:13:36,880 --> 02:13:37,840
Speaker 1: and then I'll give you my answer.

3031
02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:40,840
Speaker 3: Because he's also trying to speak for logical Nebraska fans,

3032
02:13:40,880 --> 02:13:42,680
Speaker 3: which I'm trying to absolutely nothing.

3033
02:13:42,920 --> 02:13:46,120
Speaker 1: I am trying to speak for logical fandom, right, people

3034
02:13:46,200 --> 02:13:49,200
Speaker 1: casuals who don't really follow in nebrasketball. So the under

3035
02:13:49,240 --> 02:13:50,760
Speaker 1: here just on the outside looking at I think the

3036
02:13:51,000 --> 02:13:53,560
Speaker 1: more you look in the Nebraska football the more you

3037
02:13:53,680 --> 02:13:55,200
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, they should be probably seven to five.

3038
02:13:56,760 --> 02:13:59,440
Speaker 1: And to follow up on your ten and two now

3039
02:13:59,760 --> 02:14:02,840
Speaker 1: where you were, I replied to you and said, eight

3040
02:14:02,920 --> 02:14:05,560
Speaker 1: plus are my foxhil guys. Those are the guys buying stock.

3041
02:14:05,800 --> 02:14:07,520
Speaker 1: Those are the guys that understand what's going on in

3042
02:14:07,560 --> 02:14:10,200
Speaker 1: the kitchen of Nebraska football. Are they really see ten

3043
02:14:10,280 --> 02:14:11,720
Speaker 1: plus win level? Optimism.

3044
02:14:12,000 --> 02:14:14,920
Speaker 3: Battling for a college football playoff spot, no very few

3045
02:14:15,040 --> 02:14:17,880
Speaker 3: are very few have that kind of courage. But the

3046
02:14:17,960 --> 02:14:19,640
Speaker 3: ones seeing the field with eight plus are the ones

3047
02:14:19,640 --> 02:14:20,640
Speaker 3: I'm ready to go to war with.

3048
02:14:21,080 --> 02:14:23,040
Speaker 1: You said I can do eight. By August, I could

3049
02:14:23,080 --> 02:14:24,640
Speaker 1: see myself flirting with the nines.

3050
02:14:25,040 --> 02:14:27,200
Speaker 2: Now we're at ten and you're saying, is anybody crazy

3051
02:14:27,280 --> 02:14:29,960
Speaker 2: enough to top ten? I'm not saying is anyone crazy enough?

3052
02:14:30,000 --> 02:14:32,520
Speaker 2: I'm asking does anyone believe in Nebraska more than me?

3053
02:14:37,840 --> 02:14:39,760
Speaker 3: Is there sharing the bust with them? You're sharing a

3054
02:14:39,800 --> 02:14:40,880
Speaker 3: college football show with them?

3055
02:14:40,920 --> 02:14:41,240
Speaker 2: Eleven?

3056
02:14:42,640 --> 02:14:44,800
Speaker 3: I can see us going eleven in one. Yes, okay,

3057
02:14:46,160 --> 02:14:47,600
Speaker 3: you want to go you want me to go over.

3058
02:14:47,520 --> 02:14:48,040
Speaker 1: To the schedule.

3059
02:14:48,200 --> 02:14:50,320
Speaker 2: I'd love this because it's all on record, So yes,

3060
02:14:50,560 --> 02:14:52,960
Speaker 2: I would love this. This is my Christmas present to

3061
02:14:53,040 --> 02:14:59,080
Speaker 2: myself in December. So I have us at ten and two,

3062
02:15:00,440 --> 02:15:04,520
Speaker 2: but I believe easily that we can go eleven and one. Okay,

3063
02:15:05,440 --> 02:15:08,040
Speaker 2: at least before Will starts.

3064
02:15:08,840 --> 02:15:11,960
Speaker 1: I have to deal with this, yeah, four times a year,

3065
02:15:12,360 --> 02:15:16,400
Speaker 1: starting middle of January, it's probably the first time this happens.

3066
02:15:16,960 --> 02:15:20,080
Speaker 1: Then it'll be like April, then June, July, and then

3067
02:15:20,240 --> 02:15:22,080
Speaker 1: right before the season go ahead.

3068
02:15:22,600 --> 02:15:24,920
Speaker 3: I don't feel like I shoved Nebraska football down your

3069
02:15:24,960 --> 02:15:30,960
Speaker 3: throat like I could calm cool, calm collected, because I

3070
02:15:31,080 --> 02:15:36,440
Speaker 3: know what's bruin. But I digress. Nebraska Cincinnati, that's one

3071
02:15:36,440 --> 02:15:38,120
Speaker 3: where we set the tone for the season. That's one

3072
02:15:38,200 --> 02:15:44,640
Speaker 3: to know Akron two and oh HCU school what he

3073
02:15:45,000 --> 02:15:46,480
Speaker 3: was at Houston Christian University.

3074
02:15:46,680 --> 02:15:48,080
Speaker 2: Never heard of her? All right, so that's three and oh,

3075
02:15:48,120 --> 02:15:48,520
Speaker 2: that's three.

3076
02:15:49,320 --> 02:15:51,560
Speaker 3: Michigan. I got us taken down Michigan. To me, that's

3077
02:15:51,640 --> 02:15:54,440
Speaker 3: the that's the game where it's like, who the fuck

3078
02:15:54,480 --> 02:15:56,360
Speaker 3: are we gonna be this year? No, I agree with you,

3079
02:15:56,480 --> 02:16:00,520
Speaker 3: and I think in Lincoln, Nebraska, Nebraska beats Michigan State.

3080
02:16:00,560 --> 02:16:03,280
Speaker 3: I think we win. And here's where I have our

3081
02:16:03,360 --> 02:16:07,560
Speaker 3: first loss, either at Maryland or at Minnesota, not because

3082
02:16:07,600 --> 02:16:10,680
Speaker 3: they are better than us. We are the more superior team.

3083
02:16:11,000 --> 02:16:12,640
Speaker 3: I think when you start to get can you scroll

3084
02:16:12,680 --> 02:16:15,919
Speaker 3: out what is that six? And oh before Maryland? Uncharted

3085
02:16:16,040 --> 02:16:18,840
Speaker 3: territories where you don't know how we're gonna handle this

3086
02:16:18,920 --> 02:16:23,040
Speaker 3: success because the moment we beat the Wolverines, we're gonna

3087
02:16:23,040 --> 02:16:25,560
Speaker 3: be catapulted up. You're gonna be on your show talking

3088
02:16:25,560 --> 02:16:27,240
Speaker 3: about the power rankings. How we're gonna be like a

3089
02:16:27,280 --> 02:16:31,280
Speaker 3: top ten school by week though you're talking about before

3090
02:16:31,760 --> 02:16:34,360
Speaker 3: after you beat Michigan. But that's what I'm saying. You're

3091
02:16:34,440 --> 02:16:37,040
Speaker 3: going through this world of rule aid and kool aid

3092
02:16:37,080 --> 02:16:39,520
Speaker 3: to where how are the boys gonna handle this? And

3093
02:16:39,600 --> 02:16:42,040
Speaker 3: this could be a challenging clip because I know when

3094
02:16:42,080 --> 02:16:43,720
Speaker 3: we are six and oh and we're gonna go out

3095
02:16:43,760 --> 02:16:46,640
Speaker 3: to Maryland or the fluck bank in Minnesota. Everybody knows

3096
02:16:46,680 --> 02:16:48,200
Speaker 3: how weird that gets out there. But he runs a

3097
02:16:48,280 --> 02:16:51,520
Speaker 3: solid program. We could I could see us dropping one

3098
02:16:51,600 --> 02:16:54,440
Speaker 3: because we've gotten too big for our bridges, which gives it,

3099
02:16:54,520 --> 02:16:57,360
Speaker 3: which honestly is great timing because then you beat the

3100
02:16:57,440 --> 02:17:00,400
Speaker 3: pitts out of Northwestern in those nerds, and then you'll

3101
02:17:00,440 --> 02:17:03,000
Speaker 3: host USC and Nebraska and USC is a good team

3102
02:17:03,040 --> 02:17:05,240
Speaker 3: this year, and I think we need all the fucking

3103
02:17:05,320 --> 02:17:08,240
Speaker 3: pisson vinegar we need. I would rather have us sitting

3104
02:17:08,280 --> 02:17:10,160
Speaker 3: at that what is that seven to one? Eight and

3105
02:17:10,240 --> 02:17:13,440
Speaker 3: one with the USC coming in with that little ego check. No,

3106
02:17:13,640 --> 02:17:16,800
Speaker 3: they're being absolutely undefeated up until USC comes in, because

3107
02:17:16,800 --> 02:17:18,360
Speaker 3: I think USC is gonna be a tough team, and

3108
02:17:18,480 --> 02:17:20,440
Speaker 3: we would have whooped their ass if the ref would

3109
02:17:20,440 --> 02:17:22,440
Speaker 3: have thrown a flag last year on that pass interference

3110
02:17:22,480 --> 02:17:25,360
Speaker 3: called late in the game. We beat USC we handle

3111
02:17:25,480 --> 02:17:28,200
Speaker 3: Ucla because they fucking beat us last year in our

3112
02:17:28,240 --> 02:17:30,560
Speaker 3: home spot and they should not have beat us. And

3113
02:17:30,600 --> 02:17:32,240
Speaker 3: I think we're gonna get a bad taste out of

3114
02:17:32,280 --> 02:17:34,320
Speaker 3: our mouths with Ucla. We're gonna be motivated.

3115
02:17:34,920 --> 02:17:35,520
Speaker 2: Then you go in.

3116
02:17:36,160 --> 02:17:38,560
Speaker 3: That's gonna be Look if we're undefeated at Penn State

3117
02:17:38,720 --> 02:17:42,280
Speaker 3: or one lost team at Penn State, we're talking all

3118
02:17:42,360 --> 02:17:45,199
Speaker 3: of it, big newon kickoff College game Day, what's your fall.

3119
02:17:45,080 --> 02:17:48,600
Speaker 2: Tour called Default Don't Lie Tour? Defall Don't Lie Tour?

3120
02:17:49,280 --> 02:17:50,280
Speaker 1: What's our what's gonna be ours?

3121
02:17:50,520 --> 02:17:52,879
Speaker 2: The Boys of the Fall Tour is gonna be there.

3122
02:17:52,959 --> 02:18:00,800
Speaker 3: Everyone's gonna be well at Penn State. Probably a white

3123
02:18:00,840 --> 02:18:05,959
Speaker 3: album two. We dropped that one against Penn State. That's

3124
02:18:06,000 --> 02:18:07,280
Speaker 3: where I'll take my realism.

3125
02:18:07,360 --> 02:18:08,440
Speaker 2: You know where I'm riding.

3126
02:18:08,760 --> 02:18:11,080
Speaker 3: I got us twelve and oh personally, but if I'm

3127
02:18:11,080 --> 02:18:13,520
Speaker 3: gonna have some realism in this take we drop against

3128
02:18:13,560 --> 02:18:15,320
Speaker 3: Penn State, that's where I see us being a two

3129
02:18:15,360 --> 02:18:18,080
Speaker 3: loss team. Then we handle and beat the absolute shit

3130
02:18:18,240 --> 02:18:21,320
Speaker 3: out of fucking the Iowa Hawk guys, because we need it.

3131
02:18:21,680 --> 02:18:23,040
Speaker 3: You want to know the last time, you know, the

3132
02:18:23,120 --> 02:18:25,840
Speaker 3: last time they won, or we won at home against

3133
02:18:25,840 --> 02:18:31,000
Speaker 3: Iowa twenty eleven when Willie c was operating. Iowa comes

3134
02:18:31,000 --> 02:18:33,560
Speaker 3: to Nebraska. We close that one out at home, and

3135
02:18:33,680 --> 02:18:36,040
Speaker 3: we go ten and two on the outside looking in

3136
02:18:36,280 --> 02:18:39,720
Speaker 3: because I think it's gonna be Penn State Oregon in

3137
02:18:39,760 --> 02:18:43,320
Speaker 3: the Big Ten Championship and we're gonna be positioned beautifully

3138
02:18:43,520 --> 02:18:47,120
Speaker 3: for the college football playoff. That's my that's my season

3139
02:18:47,200 --> 02:18:48,000
Speaker 3: of Nebraska.

3140
02:18:48,720 --> 02:18:50,400
Speaker 2: You're right there, all right. So have you seen the

3141
02:18:50,440 --> 02:18:51,280
Speaker 2: movie Tremors before?

3142
02:18:51,720 --> 02:18:51,840
Speaker 6: Oh?

3143
02:18:52,200 --> 02:18:54,400
Speaker 2: Great movie, great movie. Yeah, so you you just ran

3144
02:18:54,520 --> 02:18:57,760
Speaker 2: on in it. So you just played the worm. That's

3145
02:18:57,760 --> 02:19:00,480
Speaker 2: basically what you played. What I wanted to do, and

3146
02:19:00,600 --> 02:19:02,920
Speaker 2: I told Clump this, what I wanted to do is

3147
02:19:03,080 --> 02:19:05,520
Speaker 2: plant my flag. Early today. I came in with strategy,

3148
02:19:06,000 --> 02:19:07,800
Speaker 2: and what I wanted to do is at the end

3149
02:19:07,840 --> 02:19:10,080
Speaker 2: of that movie when they throw the dynamite stick behind

3150
02:19:10,120 --> 02:19:11,760
Speaker 2: the worm to piss it off and get it to

3151
02:19:11,879 --> 02:19:14,040
Speaker 2: go hard at the edge of the cliff, and then

3152
02:19:14,080 --> 02:19:15,800
Speaker 2: you just tunnels tunnels, tunnels through the edge of the

3153
02:19:15,800 --> 02:19:17,800
Speaker 2: cliff and it flies down to the bottom. It splatters

3154
02:19:17,800 --> 02:19:20,200
Speaker 2: all over the place. I either want you to be

3155
02:19:21,080 --> 02:19:23,879
Speaker 2: a legend to end all legends and this to happen,

3156
02:19:24,560 --> 02:19:27,840
Speaker 2: or I am playing this on loop in December because

3157
02:19:27,879 --> 02:19:30,440
Speaker 2: no one will remember my busted ten and two prediction

3158
02:19:30,560 --> 02:19:32,480
Speaker 2: once You've just done this for the past five minutes.

3159
02:19:33,160 --> 02:19:35,120
Speaker 2: But I'm with you. I agree with you with the

3160
02:19:35,160 --> 02:19:37,400
Speaker 2: Penn State organ I agree with you that Nebraska is

3161
02:19:37,440 --> 02:19:40,360
Speaker 2: positioned well. I just I didn't like sweat like a

3162
02:19:40,400 --> 02:19:43,440
Speaker 2: Baptist preacher and yell emphatically when I said it, so like,

3163
02:19:44,080 --> 02:19:47,160
Speaker 2: I've got no lose situation here. I feel like either

3164
02:19:47,320 --> 02:19:49,880
Speaker 2: they come through, which we're all happy, almost all of

3165
02:19:49,959 --> 02:19:53,080
Speaker 2: us are happy, or they don't and then you're the

3166
02:19:53,120 --> 02:19:53,560
Speaker 2: face of it.

3167
02:19:54,959 --> 02:19:55,920
Speaker 1: I can live in that world.

3168
02:19:56,040 --> 02:20:00,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been in that world. I'll tell you this.

3169
02:20:01,240 --> 02:20:04,160
Speaker 3: I've never been more confident than I am this year.

3170
02:20:04,200 --> 02:20:04,920
Speaker 1: I think they can do it.

3171
02:20:08,240 --> 02:20:08,680
Speaker 3: J J.

3172
02:20:08,840 --> 02:20:14,520
Speaker 1: B Knows what I'm talking about, beautifully said, how do

3173
02:20:14,600 --> 02:20:15,400
Speaker 1: you feel about that?

3174
02:20:17,879 --> 02:20:20,039
Speaker 2: I like ten to two, That's what I have them going.

3175
02:20:20,440 --> 02:20:22,360
Speaker 2: Ten and two? College football playoff team.

3176
02:20:22,360 --> 02:20:23,880
Speaker 3: Where do you see the drops? Where do you see

3177
02:20:23,879 --> 02:20:24,320
Speaker 3: the losses?

3178
02:20:24,360 --> 02:20:24,879
Speaker 1: On that schedule?

3179
02:20:25,640 --> 02:20:29,879
Speaker 2: One of Ohio so No. One of USC Penn State,

3180
02:20:29,959 --> 02:20:32,200
Speaker 2: and then another random Like you said, I didn't know

3181
02:20:32,240 --> 02:20:32,760
Speaker 2: what you said.

3182
02:20:32,879 --> 02:20:33,600
Speaker 1: That's nine to three.

3183
02:20:34,040 --> 02:20:38,120
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no one of USC or Penn State. Okay, yeah, no, no, no,

3184
02:20:38,680 --> 02:20:39,600
Speaker 2: we drop against us.

3185
02:20:39,600 --> 02:20:41,160
Speaker 3: See you guys going into Penn State.

3186
02:20:41,480 --> 02:20:45,160
Speaker 2: One of Michigan. There's no skill in this ten and two.

3187
02:20:45,280 --> 02:20:46,640
Speaker 2: That's what they're doing. They're going ten and two.

3188
02:20:46,720 --> 02:20:48,400
Speaker 3: There is skill the beat Michigan.

3189
02:20:49,240 --> 02:20:52,400
Speaker 2: I pick them to beat Michigan right now. Why I

3190
02:20:52,520 --> 02:20:54,360
Speaker 2: think they're going to be a better football team than Michigan?

3191
02:20:54,640 --> 02:20:56,400
Speaker 6: Why I like?

3192
02:20:57,520 --> 02:20:59,080
Speaker 2: I don't this is just stalling.

3193
02:21:01,040 --> 02:21:03,160
Speaker 1: September twenty first, When things go my way, I'm gonna

3194
02:21:03,160 --> 02:21:04,800
Speaker 1: have a hell of a time when the show's fine.

3195
02:21:05,040 --> 02:21:07,240
Speaker 2: So I feel like if the game were in November,

3196
02:21:07,400 --> 02:21:09,440
Speaker 2: I got almost a full year of Bryce Underwood. I

3197
02:21:09,520 --> 02:21:11,600
Speaker 2: feel a little bit better than But he will have

3198
02:21:11,640 --> 02:21:13,400
Speaker 2: already gone into Oklahoma, so it's not like going on

3199
02:21:13,480 --> 02:21:15,720
Speaker 2: the road's going to be foreign to him. Yeah. I

3200
02:21:15,760 --> 02:21:17,360
Speaker 2: don't know. I just like the way the game profile

3201
02:21:17,440 --> 02:21:19,080
Speaker 2: is better for him. I should have brought my laptop

3202
02:21:19,120 --> 02:21:19,320
Speaker 2: in here.

3203
02:21:20,040 --> 02:21:21,000
Speaker 3: You'll have Martindale.

3204
02:21:21,520 --> 02:21:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like him?

3205
02:21:22,240 --> 02:21:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, how could you not?

3206
02:21:23,800 --> 02:21:26,160
Speaker 2: How much what he's done? Yeah, you're gonna put Ryle

3207
02:21:26,200 --> 02:21:30,840
Speaker 2: in a blender, aren't you how much he blitzes nineteen thirteen. Dn't.

3208
02:21:30,879 --> 02:21:32,840
Speaker 1: I didn't like how much he blitzed in the beginning

3209
02:21:32,840 --> 02:21:34,080
Speaker 1: of the year last year. I thought it was a

3210
02:21:34,080 --> 02:21:36,440
Speaker 1: little too chaotic, a little too crazy. I think he

3211
02:21:37,000 --> 02:21:38,240
Speaker 1: he listens to the show. I think he got a

3212
02:21:38,280 --> 02:21:40,800
Speaker 1: whole lot better, a whole lot more tactical with the

3213
02:21:40,840 --> 02:21:42,720
Speaker 1: way he handled his exotic blitzes.

3214
02:21:43,120 --> 02:21:44,240
Speaker 3: He does a great job.

3215
02:21:44,200 --> 02:21:46,080
Speaker 1: Of hiding the shell. He does a great job of

3216
02:21:46,160 --> 02:21:48,120
Speaker 1: not letting you know where it's coming from. But he

3217
02:21:48,320 --> 02:21:50,800
Speaker 1: really fine tuned it going in the back half of

3218
02:21:50,840 --> 02:21:54,040
Speaker 1: the year. Obviously, we had the four pass turned off

3219
02:21:54,120 --> 02:21:56,800
Speaker 1: last year, so it's very hard to evaluate where Michigan is.

3220
02:21:56,840 --> 02:21:58,360
Speaker 1: I know we ended up with beating Ohiose State and

3221
02:21:58,360 --> 02:22:01,080
Speaker 1: beating Alabama, so that that's a pretty good ending for

3222
02:22:01,120 --> 02:22:02,520
Speaker 1: a team that couldn't throw the battle. I think we

3223
02:22:02,600 --> 02:22:05,080
Speaker 1: had one hundred and ten yards throwing in both of those.

3224
02:22:05,080 --> 02:22:08,560
Speaker 1: Those in mind, it's incredible. We go there in the spring,

3225
02:22:09,120 --> 02:22:11,200
Speaker 1: A lot of conversation, obviously revolving on Bryce under what

3226
02:22:11,240 --> 02:22:13,039
Speaker 1: everyone really likes him. We got to see him play.

3227
02:22:13,080 --> 02:22:15,160
Speaker 1: I thought he was really impressive. The other than the

3228
02:22:15,240 --> 02:22:18,560
Speaker 1: one interceptionate a Nico but a lot of guys are

3229
02:22:18,600 --> 02:22:21,080
Speaker 1: talking about the defense, how they're actually gonna be better

3230
02:22:21,160 --> 02:22:23,400
Speaker 1: even though they've lost the two guys in the middle.

3231
02:22:23,480 --> 02:22:25,560
Speaker 2: I've heard that, and I see yeah.

3232
02:22:25,600 --> 02:22:27,640
Speaker 1: I mean, they played more than half the year without

3233
02:22:27,640 --> 02:22:29,800
Speaker 1: Will Johnson the number one corner. They had a kind

3234
02:22:29,840 --> 02:22:31,880
Speaker 1: of a revolving door. They lost their safety to an

3235
02:22:32,080 --> 02:22:35,760
Speaker 1: ACL He'll be back. They have a lot of talent. Michigan,

3236
02:22:35,800 --> 02:22:36,840
Speaker 1: when I think I have done it, has a really

3237
02:22:36,879 --> 02:22:40,280
Speaker 1: good job of is developing players, taking three stars, turning

3238
02:22:40,320 --> 02:22:42,360
Speaker 1: him into that five star. I think they've done a

3239
02:22:42,440 --> 02:22:45,000
Speaker 1: better job than probably any other team that I can

3240
02:22:45,040 --> 02:22:47,800
Speaker 1: think of right now. So when I think about that deal,

3241
02:22:48,080 --> 02:22:51,240
Speaker 1: if that defense is better, if that defense is better,

3242
02:22:51,520 --> 02:22:55,480
Speaker 1: and Bryce Underwood is seventy five percent of what people

3243
02:22:55,560 --> 02:23:00,480
Speaker 1: believe he can be, then I think absolutely they stopped Nebraska.

3244
02:23:00,800 --> 02:23:03,160
Speaker 1: It's a double digit. That's double digit, Okay, yeah, I

3245
02:23:03,200 --> 02:23:04,039
Speaker 1: think it's ten plus.

3246
02:23:04,200 --> 02:23:06,359
Speaker 2: I just think you don't face a ton of offenses

3247
02:23:06,400 --> 02:23:09,440
Speaker 2: that can beat you in multiple ways up there and Nebraska.

3248
02:23:09,600 --> 02:23:11,120
Speaker 2: If I'm right about it, if I'm wrong about him,

3249
02:23:11,120 --> 02:23:12,920
Speaker 2: moot point. If I'm right about him, they'll be one

3250
02:23:12,920 --> 02:23:14,720
Speaker 2: of those teams. But so Will Oklahoma, so you will

3251
02:23:14,760 --> 02:23:16,760
Speaker 2: have already faced the team. If I'm right about those

3252
02:23:16,840 --> 02:23:19,520
Speaker 2: teams that are layered enough to beat you in several

3253
02:23:19,560 --> 02:23:21,240
Speaker 2: different ways, like you don't have one answer for them.

3254
02:23:21,280 --> 02:23:22,520
Speaker 2: In other words, we'll I'll have.

3255
02:23:22,560 --> 02:23:24,120
Speaker 3: A bunch better of an understanding of Michigan.

3256
02:23:24,360 --> 02:23:25,280
Speaker 2: We after Oklahoma.

3257
02:23:25,360 --> 02:23:28,480
Speaker 3: After Oklahoma, it's like, do they win? Do they lose?

3258
02:23:28,560 --> 02:23:31,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, But how did the game? How does

3259
02:23:31,040 --> 02:23:33,720
Speaker 1: the game look? How does all sixty minutes that game

3260
02:23:34,120 --> 02:23:37,120
Speaker 1: come together? How does Bryce Underwood handle adversity to get

3261
02:23:37,120 --> 02:23:39,200
Speaker 1: sacked a couple of times? Because that's the biggest question.

3262
02:23:39,320 --> 02:23:42,360
Speaker 1: Mark Roola, I love will sitting because he's got a

3263
02:23:42,400 --> 02:23:44,440
Speaker 1: guy that you can see getting better and better. I

3264
02:23:44,480 --> 02:23:46,360
Speaker 1: think it's a little disrespectful that I think the top

3265
02:23:46,440 --> 02:23:49,600
Speaker 1: ten quarterbacks of college football came out and Roola wasn't

3266
02:23:49,640 --> 02:23:51,440
Speaker 1: in it. I think he's a guy that could be

3267
02:23:51,480 --> 02:23:53,840
Speaker 1: sitting in that nine or ten spot right now. But

3268
02:23:54,440 --> 02:23:57,360
Speaker 1: with Bryce, it's like potential potentially we talked about in

3269
02:23:57,360 --> 02:23:59,160
Speaker 1: the intro of the show, haven't done shit yet, So

3270
02:23:59,280 --> 02:24:00,960
Speaker 1: I really need to see what he does before I

3271
02:24:01,040 --> 02:24:03,160
Speaker 1: start planning a massive flag in the ground. I think

3272
02:24:03,200 --> 02:24:06,320
Speaker 1: you're you're never counted out when you're playing, when you're

3273
02:24:06,360 --> 02:24:08,600
Speaker 1: with Michigan, never kind of especially seeing what they did

3274
02:24:08,720 --> 02:24:12,080
Speaker 1: last year with literally the inability to throw the forward pass,

3275
02:24:13,000 --> 02:24:14,760
Speaker 1: because their offensive line is gonna be a lot better

3276
02:24:14,840 --> 02:24:17,400
Speaker 1: this year. They have two running backs that can shove

3277
02:24:17,480 --> 02:24:19,640
Speaker 1: it down your throat. Yeah, why are receivers that are

3278
02:24:19,680 --> 02:24:22,440
Speaker 1: willing to block? And then he had a defense who's

3279
02:24:22,480 --> 02:24:24,720
Speaker 1: hunger and swarms for the ball, has exotic blitz. Is

3280
02:24:24,760 --> 02:24:27,520
Speaker 1: that a lot of quarterbacks that don't necessarily know how

3281
02:24:27,560 --> 02:24:30,840
Speaker 1: to pick apart defense defenses is in college, They're going

3282
02:24:30,920 --> 02:24:33,720
Speaker 1: to be thrown a certain way. They're not going to

3283
02:24:33,800 --> 02:24:36,440
Speaker 1: really know what to do with certain zeros, with the

3284
02:24:36,560 --> 02:24:39,280
Speaker 1: nickel coming when you don't see him coming, flipping the protection,

3285
02:24:39,480 --> 02:24:40,280
Speaker 1: those types of things.

3286
02:24:41,640 --> 02:24:46,280
Speaker 2: Gritty wins again. Biggest game of the season I've got.

3287
02:24:46,680 --> 02:24:48,120
Speaker 1: I've really've just.

3288
02:24:48,160 --> 02:24:50,360
Speaker 2: Really been talked into the like external dynamics on this thing,

3289
02:24:50,440 --> 02:24:54,080
Speaker 2: feeling like a playoff game. No emotionally invested in it. Yeah,

3290
02:24:54,320 --> 02:24:56,840
Speaker 2: I didn't walk into the season emotionally invested in it,

3291
02:24:56,879 --> 02:24:59,320
Speaker 2: but now I'm kind of emotionally invested in it. It's

3292
02:24:59,360 --> 02:25:00,800
Speaker 2: not just another I wanted to be one of your

3293
02:25:00,920 --> 02:25:03,840
Speaker 2: your hinge games that you were going over. Yeah, probably

3294
02:25:03,959 --> 02:25:06,240
Speaker 2: I started to fit fast. It probably should have made that.

3295
02:25:06,280 --> 02:25:07,160
Speaker 1: Look when's he gonna.

3296
02:25:06,920 --> 02:25:11,640
Speaker 3: Start fast forward? It was either gonna be Nebraska, Michigan

3297
02:25:11,760 --> 02:25:14,080
Speaker 3: or Michigan Oklahoma, because I know you're big on Oklahoma

3298
02:25:14,120 --> 02:25:14,560
Speaker 3: this year too.

3299
02:25:14,959 --> 02:25:17,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, why is that? Because I heard and the earlier

3300
02:25:17,440 --> 02:25:19,120
Speaker 1: in the year, everyone's like Oklahoma's gonna have a really

3301
02:25:19,200 --> 02:25:20,879
Speaker 1: down year. They never seem to really get over the hump.

3302
02:25:20,959 --> 02:25:22,680
Speaker 1: This quarterback is supposed to be really good, but we

3303
02:25:22,680 --> 02:25:25,840
Speaker 1: don't know if Oklahoma's actually gonna be anything of substance. Yeah,

3304
02:25:25,879 --> 02:25:27,840
Speaker 1: now we're getting close to the season. I don't know

3305
02:25:27,879 --> 02:25:29,879
Speaker 1: if it's like a draft stock thing where a guy

3306
02:25:30,000 --> 02:25:31,920
Speaker 1: is a tweet, like a late first round, early second,

3307
02:25:31,959 --> 02:25:33,160
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, he hey, this guy could

3308
02:25:33,160 --> 02:25:35,320
Speaker 1: possibly be a top ten pick and he still ends

3309
02:25:35,400 --> 02:25:38,160
Speaker 1: up going late first round, early second, Like, what is

3310
02:25:38,320 --> 02:25:40,480
Speaker 1: Oklahoma to you? Why is it all of a sudden?

3311
02:25:40,480 --> 02:25:41,760
Speaker 1: Why is there stock rising so much?

3312
02:25:41,800 --> 02:25:44,040
Speaker 2: Because they were never a fatally flawed team. They were

3313
02:25:44,040 --> 02:25:46,200
Speaker 2: a team with multiple top ten classes stacked on top

3314
02:25:46,240 --> 02:25:48,720
Speaker 2: of each other. They portaled consistently in the top ten

3315
02:25:48,840 --> 02:25:52,879
Speaker 2: like last year. Their fatal flaw was they horrifically failed

3316
02:25:52,879 --> 02:25:55,120
Speaker 2: at hiring at the OC position, and it was oil

3317
02:25:55,160 --> 02:25:58,200
Speaker 2: and water and Jackson Arnold in that offense was dead

3318
02:25:58,240 --> 02:26:01,320
Speaker 2: on arrival. It's terrible. So it's the season thrown away.

3319
02:26:01,400 --> 02:26:03,280
Speaker 2: And so what people didn't even pay attention to is

3320
02:26:03,640 --> 02:26:06,800
Speaker 2: this isn't a terrible team, not the terrible roster. It's

3321
02:26:06,840 --> 02:26:09,120
Speaker 2: a pretty good to high level roster with fatal flaw

3322
02:26:09,160 --> 02:26:11,720
Speaker 2: in it that makes all the rest of it irrelevant.

3323
02:26:11,959 --> 02:26:15,039
Speaker 2: So then they addressed the fatal flaw part one. They

3324
02:26:15,120 --> 02:26:17,520
Speaker 2: brought in OC and quarterback from the same place Utah

3325
02:26:17,600 --> 02:26:19,119
Speaker 2: did the same thing. By the way, people aren't paying

3326
02:26:19,120 --> 02:26:21,199
Speaker 2: attention to that, so Matier comes in with his OC.

3327
02:26:22,400 --> 02:26:24,959
Speaker 2: The second thing they did was they attacked the portal.

3328
02:26:25,040 --> 02:26:26,960
Speaker 2: The one area they needed to attack the portal, which

3329
02:26:27,000 --> 02:26:29,120
Speaker 2: was wide receiver. So they get a kid named Dion

3330
02:26:29,160 --> 02:26:31,279
Speaker 2: Burksback who should have been a star last year, transferred

3331
02:26:31,280 --> 02:26:34,160
Speaker 2: from perdub but he was hurt, so he's back this year. Dog.

3332
02:26:34,520 --> 02:26:36,520
Speaker 2: Then the rest of the wide receiver room I think

3333
02:26:36,560 --> 02:26:38,520
Speaker 2: not only is filled out, but it's really complimentary. It's

3334
02:26:38,560 --> 02:26:41,160
Speaker 2: not like five of the same dudes. So the one

3335
02:26:41,240 --> 02:26:43,280
Speaker 2: question I have about them that I'll be watching early

3336
02:26:43,320 --> 02:26:45,320
Speaker 2: in the season, specifically when they get tested in as

3337
02:26:45,360 --> 02:26:48,400
Speaker 2: Michigan is. Are they as improved on the offensive line

3338
02:26:48,400 --> 02:26:50,360
Speaker 2: as they think, because that was a real liability for him.

3339
02:26:50,360 --> 02:26:52,800
Speaker 2: They had like ten different starting rotations last year in

3340
02:26:52,840 --> 02:26:56,040
Speaker 2: the first ten weeks. If that's in place, I've actually

3341
02:26:56,040 --> 02:26:58,320
Speaker 2: got very little doubt about Mate. I don't question him

3342
02:26:58,560 --> 02:27:00,720
Speaker 2: like I think he could contend for high trophy. So

3343
02:27:00,800 --> 02:27:04,360
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna play at that high level. Defense conservatively,

3344
02:27:04,440 --> 02:27:07,000
Speaker 2: top fifteen unit could be better than that. I just

3345
02:27:07,040 --> 02:27:09,200
Speaker 2: think people who are shot when Oklahoma is good this

3346
02:27:09,320 --> 02:27:11,920
Speaker 2: year didn't really watch Oklahoma last year. They know the

3347
02:27:12,000 --> 02:27:15,600
Speaker 2: quarterback sucked, or the quarterback offensive coordinator Combo sucked and

3348
02:27:15,920 --> 02:27:17,240
Speaker 2: the rest of it. They just kind of tuned out.

3349
02:27:17,240 --> 02:27:18,560
Speaker 2: They watched it from fifty thousand feet.

3350
02:27:18,560 --> 02:27:20,400
Speaker 1: I watched it from I watched them against South Carolina.

3351
02:27:22,680 --> 02:27:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a bad belth to ask. That was

3352
02:27:24,080 --> 02:27:25,560
Speaker 2: a bad day a belt to ask. That was the

3353
02:27:25,600 --> 02:27:28,000
Speaker 2: week after Carolina goes into Tuscaloosa and loses.

3354
02:27:28,160 --> 02:27:29,560
Speaker 3: I know they should have won that game too. We

3355
02:27:29,640 --> 02:27:30,120
Speaker 3: were in Oregon.

3356
02:27:30,280 --> 02:27:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they go in there and lose, and Beamer, after

3357
02:27:33,520 --> 02:27:35,760
Speaker 2: his fresh conference said, you know what, this is enough

3358
02:27:36,120 --> 02:27:38,040
Speaker 2: it's just enough, and they go out to Oklahoma the

3359
02:27:38,080 --> 02:27:40,959
Speaker 2: next week. I think it was three pick six's they had.

3360
02:27:41,320 --> 02:27:43,240
Speaker 2: They had twenty one nuts, they had twenty one on

3361
02:27:43,280 --> 02:27:45,200
Speaker 2: the board and not an offensive point to speak up.

3362
02:27:45,400 --> 02:27:45,879
Speaker 2: Just crazy.

3363
02:27:45,959 --> 02:27:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you brought up a team and it is in

3364
02:27:48,680 --> 02:27:50,960
Speaker 1: your favorite conference, the Bay twelve of Utah. Now a

3365
02:27:51,000 --> 02:27:53,720
Speaker 1: lot of people talking about Utah. You think ASU takes well.

3366
02:27:53,800 --> 02:27:55,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to get into futures. As we'll talk

3367
02:27:55,320 --> 02:27:58,240
Speaker 1: about features on the show. I'll say right now, I

3368
02:27:58,400 --> 02:28:00,640
Speaker 1: like ASU, but about Utah.

3369
02:28:01,080 --> 02:28:05,600
Speaker 2: Well, Utah, everyone watched Whittingham win double digit games forever

3370
02:28:06,160 --> 02:28:08,400
Speaker 2: and then he had a down year last year, and

3371
02:28:08,520 --> 02:28:10,120
Speaker 2: people just I don't know. I said this on our

3372
02:28:10,160 --> 02:28:12,640
Speaker 2: show last night. I feel like people have made an

3373
02:28:12,640 --> 02:28:15,480
Speaker 2: effort to forget about Utah after one down year. It's

3374
02:28:15,520 --> 02:28:17,880
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve. There's not a lot of difference in

3375
02:28:17,959 --> 02:28:19,600
Speaker 2: ten and two and five and seven. It's like a

3376
02:28:19,640 --> 02:28:22,720
Speaker 2: bunch of one possession games, bounce, the ball goes against you,

3377
02:28:22,840 --> 02:28:25,520
Speaker 2: injury for them, win against them last year. So everyone's

3378
02:28:25,520 --> 02:28:28,680
Speaker 2: talking about Oklahoma going and getting the quarterback oc Combo

3379
02:28:28,800 --> 02:28:31,320
Speaker 2: from the same school they did that. They went and

3380
02:28:31,360 --> 02:28:33,160
Speaker 2: got a kid named Devon Dan Pierre out of New

3381
02:28:33,240 --> 02:28:36,039
Speaker 2: Mexico and brought him back his offensive coordinator, So they

3382
02:28:36,120 --> 02:28:39,080
Speaker 2: basically imported an offense and you don't have a quarterback

3383
02:28:39,160 --> 02:28:42,640
Speaker 2: learning on the fly elsewhere. It's still Utah. Like the

3384
02:28:42,760 --> 02:28:44,920
Speaker 2: roster is still Utah. They're gonna I mean, they could

3385
02:28:44,920 --> 02:28:47,240
Speaker 2: take a stone and squeeze it and they get drops

3386
02:28:47,280 --> 02:28:49,400
Speaker 2: of water out of it, So they get every possible

3387
02:28:49,760 --> 02:28:52,360
Speaker 2: ounce of potential out of a roster they always have.

3388
02:28:52,959 --> 02:28:56,120
Speaker 2: So either I'm supposed to believe Whittingham's entire career or

3389
02:28:56,160 --> 02:28:57,960
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to believe last year is the new Utah.

3390
02:28:58,320 --> 02:29:00,320
Speaker 2: And I don't believe last year is the new Utah

3391
02:29:00,360 --> 02:29:03,039
Speaker 2: because it's not like nil and the Portal has sunk

3392
02:29:03,080 --> 02:29:05,560
Speaker 2: its teeth into the Big Twelve. In the SEC and

3393
02:29:05,640 --> 02:29:08,440
Speaker 2: the Big Ten, they're fundamentally different conferences because of it.

3394
02:29:08,879 --> 02:29:11,400
Speaker 2: The Big Twelve, no one outside of Texas Tech, no

3395
02:29:11,520 --> 02:29:14,000
Speaker 2: one's spending a ton of money, like, no one's got

3396
02:29:14,160 --> 02:29:17,440
Speaker 2: huge roster turn no one's got huge staff turnover. So

3397
02:29:17,520 --> 02:29:19,760
Speaker 2: the conference pretty much is what it was. Texas Tech's

3398
02:29:19,800 --> 02:29:21,760
Speaker 2: the one exception, and I think there'll be a contender

3399
02:29:21,840 --> 02:29:24,280
Speaker 2: this year. But you look at if you've got a

3400
02:29:24,320 --> 02:29:26,240
Speaker 2: FanDuel right now, and you look at the odds to

3401
02:29:26,280 --> 02:29:28,600
Speaker 2: win the Big Twelve, they don't look like any other conference.

3402
02:29:28,680 --> 02:29:31,840
Speaker 2: Every other conference has got a couple pretty high level favorites,

3403
02:29:31,840 --> 02:29:33,760
Speaker 2: and then there's some drop off Tier two, drop off,

3404
02:29:33,800 --> 02:29:39,800
Speaker 2: Tier three, Kansas State, Utah, Texas Tech, Arizona State, Baylor, TCU.

3405
02:29:40,000 --> 02:29:42,280
Speaker 2: They have pretty much identical odds. You would have to

3406
02:29:42,360 --> 02:29:44,920
Speaker 2: go to the show me More function before you ever

3407
02:29:44,959 --> 02:29:47,600
Speaker 2: got down to someone who's plus fifteen hundred odds or lower.

3408
02:29:47,879 --> 02:29:50,840
Speaker 2: So that's the Big Twelve, even Fanduels saying, yeah, we

3409
02:29:51,000 --> 02:29:52,879
Speaker 2: just threw these numbers out there, like, go ahead, take

3410
02:29:52,920 --> 02:29:54,640
Speaker 2: your pick. If you think you know this conference better

3411
02:29:54,680 --> 02:29:59,120
Speaker 2: than we do. Look you go one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.

3412
02:29:59,520 --> 02:30:01,800
Speaker 2: They're eight teams deep before you get to plus fifteen

3413
02:30:01,879 --> 02:30:05,000
Speaker 2: hundred odds, and that plus fifteen hundred is Kansas, who

3414
02:30:05,080 --> 02:30:07,400
Speaker 2: with the healthy Jalen Daniels, could win the conference this year.

3415
02:30:08,680 --> 02:30:10,480
Speaker 2: They don't play their games in Arrowhead this year, by

3416
02:30:10,520 --> 02:30:13,199
Speaker 2: the way, twelve, Yeah, they actually have a home campus

3417
02:30:13,280 --> 02:30:17,600
Speaker 2: stadium again this year. Yeah, all right, sure, you.

3418
02:30:17,640 --> 02:30:19,959
Speaker 3: Know Shre was fired up about the Big twelve talk you.

3419
02:30:20,000 --> 02:30:24,160
Speaker 1: Brought up the NIL. Ever, since nil nil took over,

3420
02:30:24,240 --> 02:30:27,000
Speaker 1: you see a massive jump into big ten in national championships.

3421
02:30:27,800 --> 02:30:30,240
Speaker 1: Is that proof that the SEC was paying their players

3422
02:30:30,240 --> 02:30:31,040
Speaker 1: before nil no?

3423
02:30:31,160 --> 02:30:33,840
Speaker 2: The proof of the SEC paying players is that the

3424
02:30:34,040 --> 02:30:37,120
Speaker 2: SEC was paying their players like it didn't need to be.

3425
02:30:38,320 --> 02:30:40,800
Speaker 2: People look at this as like a one track sort

3426
02:30:40,800 --> 02:30:44,440
Speaker 2: of scenario, like, yeah, nil came along, Here's what else happened.

3427
02:30:44,520 --> 02:30:48,840
Speaker 2: Nick Saban retired from Alabama. Like Saban retiring in any

3428
02:30:48,920 --> 02:30:51,800
Speaker 2: era was going to fundamentally impact the death grip that

3429
02:30:51,879 --> 02:30:54,200
Speaker 2: the SEC had on college football because it wasn't the

3430
02:30:54,360 --> 02:30:56,400
Speaker 2: SEC that had a death grip. It was Alabama that

3431
02:30:56,520 --> 02:30:59,720
Speaker 2: had a death grip on college football, led by Nick Saban. Ten.

3432
02:31:00,040 --> 02:31:02,000
Speaker 2: We did our SEC preview on our show last night

3433
02:31:02,560 --> 02:31:05,680
Speaker 2: and for all to talk about the depth and competitive balance.

3434
02:31:05,959 --> 02:31:08,480
Speaker 2: Ten of the last eleven SEC championships were either one

3435
02:31:08,480 --> 02:31:11,360
Speaker 2: by Bama or Georgia. There's one exception that's Burrow and

3436
02:31:11,480 --> 02:31:14,880
Speaker 2: LSU in twenty nineteen. Okay, so he retires, I'm not

3437
02:31:15,360 --> 02:31:17,160
Speaker 2: You could come back at me and say, but what

3438
02:31:17,280 --> 02:31:19,160
Speaker 2: if I told you he retired because of the way

3439
02:31:19,240 --> 02:31:21,959
Speaker 2: innil was impacting the sport, you could have some validity there.

3440
02:31:21,959 --> 02:31:24,440
Speaker 2: I don't doubt that. But the point remains, if the

3441
02:31:24,560 --> 02:31:28,240
Speaker 2: nil thing never changed and Saban retired, that would have

3442
02:31:28,280 --> 02:31:31,360
Speaker 2: fundamentally changed the SEC. It would have fundamentally changed college football.

3443
02:31:31,400 --> 02:31:33,879
Speaker 2: It just so happens that a lot of that stuff overlapped.

3444
02:31:33,959 --> 02:31:36,920
Speaker 2: Like also, somebody would come at me and say, hey man,

3445
02:31:37,000 --> 02:31:40,360
Speaker 2: the expanded playoff, that's what's changed everything, Like, no, it hasn't.

3446
02:31:40,760 --> 02:31:44,000
Speaker 2: Nick Saban retiring was a bombshell. It was like an

3447
02:31:44,040 --> 02:31:47,199
Speaker 2: asteroid into the ocean of college football. So you either

3448
02:31:47,840 --> 02:31:49,800
Speaker 2: you really do believe the guy was the greatest of

3449
02:31:49,840 --> 02:31:52,520
Speaker 2: all time and acknowledge what I'm saying has to be true,

3450
02:31:52,800 --> 02:31:54,880
Speaker 2: or you think he was a fraud, because you can't

3451
02:31:54,920 --> 02:31:57,360
Speaker 2: think he was the greatest of all time but not

3452
02:31:57,520 --> 02:32:00,880
Speaker 2: acknowledge his retirement had to be a huge monumental change

3453
02:32:00,879 --> 02:32:01,280
Speaker 2: at the sport.

3454
02:32:01,520 --> 02:32:04,119
Speaker 1: Wasn't he public about NILS one of the bigger reasons

3455
02:32:04,200 --> 02:32:04,920
Speaker 1: why he retired there?

3456
02:32:04,959 --> 02:32:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't. Like I've listened to him, talked

3457
02:32:07,160 --> 02:32:09,240
Speaker 2: about it on and off the record. It was absolutely

3458
02:32:09,280 --> 02:32:11,880
Speaker 2: a reason he retired. But I would follow up with this,

3459
02:32:12,280 --> 02:32:15,640
Speaker 2: Let's say he chose to stay at Alabama. Does anyone

3460
02:32:15,680 --> 02:32:18,760
Speaker 2: really think Alabama's gonna fall off a cliff, like they

3461
02:32:18,800 --> 02:32:20,720
Speaker 2: were still going to compete. They weren't gonna have three

3462
02:32:20,800 --> 02:32:23,200
Speaker 2: deep of future first round NFL talent. No one does,

3463
02:32:23,320 --> 02:32:25,720
Speaker 2: Kirby Dutt and Ryan Day doesn't. No one does. But

3464
02:32:26,000 --> 02:32:30,000
Speaker 2: that dude always found a way. COVID came around, dude

3465
02:32:30,080 --> 02:32:32,960
Speaker 2: just pivoted on a dime. They dominated that year. That

3466
02:32:33,160 --> 02:32:37,480
Speaker 2: dude ran three different totally unique versions of offense in

3467
02:32:37,560 --> 02:32:40,320
Speaker 2: his time at Alabama. Like they won with Tua, they

3468
02:32:40,360 --> 02:32:43,279
Speaker 2: won with Derrick Henry. They won with John Parker Wilson

3469
02:32:43,280 --> 02:32:45,440
Speaker 2: and Greg McElroy at quarterback. They won with Bryce Young

3470
02:32:45,440 --> 02:32:48,720
Speaker 2: at quarterback. They won with two hundred and sixty pound

3471
02:32:48,720 --> 02:32:51,200
Speaker 2: middle linebackers. They won with with Shan Evans at my

3472
02:32:51,480 --> 02:32:53,200
Speaker 2: They did all kinds of different things. So at every

3473
02:32:53,240 --> 02:32:56,320
Speaker 2: turn of his career he adjusted. He would have adjusted

3474
02:32:56,400 --> 02:32:58,520
Speaker 2: to this. It's just he looked at it and said,

3475
02:32:59,080 --> 02:33:00,840
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that's the version of the game I

3476
02:33:00,920 --> 02:33:03,120
Speaker 2: want to coach anymore. Also, in my my seventies and

3477
02:33:03,200 --> 02:33:05,000
Speaker 2: I can go work at ESPN and get a raise

3478
02:33:05,360 --> 02:33:08,800
Speaker 2: to talk about football instead of just coaching it anymore.

3479
02:33:09,080 --> 02:33:11,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good point about the SEC.

3480
02:33:12,440 --> 02:33:12,879
Speaker 2: But like.

3481
02:33:14,440 --> 02:33:17,640
Speaker 1: Alabama having a choke hold on the SEC. If Alabama

3482
02:33:17,840 --> 02:33:21,840
Speaker 1: is no longer there, does Georgia and LSU and all

3483
02:33:21,920 --> 02:33:25,360
Speaker 1: these other top tier SEC schools, do they go and

3484
02:33:25,400 --> 02:33:28,880
Speaker 1: win the national championship you're talking about if they had this?

3485
02:33:29,040 --> 02:33:29,720
Speaker 2: Is this is it?

3486
02:33:29,879 --> 02:33:31,959
Speaker 1: If like right, we're taking Alabama off the face?

3487
02:33:32,080 --> 02:33:34,280
Speaker 2: Yah yeah yeah? Or or just making them another pretty

3488
02:33:34,280 --> 02:33:38,440
Speaker 2: good program. Yeah yeah. I don't know. I really don't know.

3489
02:33:38,800 --> 02:33:41,440
Speaker 2: I think about I mean, I go back and think

3490
02:33:41,480 --> 02:33:45,920
Speaker 2: about like the Mark Rick Georgia teams, the Less Miles

3491
02:33:46,080 --> 02:33:51,039
Speaker 2: LSU teams, those teams, those guys legacies were fundamentally changed

3492
02:33:51,040 --> 02:33:53,040
Speaker 2: because of Nick Saban. If Saban's not at the SEC,

3493
02:33:53,879 --> 02:33:56,280
Speaker 2: first off, Urban probably stays at Florida longer than he did,

3494
02:33:56,640 --> 02:33:59,280
Speaker 2: and he may rattle off three or four titles. But

3495
02:33:59,640 --> 02:34:03,600
Speaker 2: Mark Rick probably wins one at Georgia Less Miles, if

3496
02:34:03,640 --> 02:34:05,480
Speaker 2: not for Alabama, He's got the best team in the

3497
02:34:05,560 --> 02:34:09,560
Speaker 2: league most years in those early twenty teens sort of period.

3498
02:34:09,840 --> 02:34:13,040
Speaker 2: So I think back about a number of guys and

3499
02:34:13,120 --> 02:34:14,560
Speaker 2: how I mean, you can't prove it, you can't prove

3500
02:34:14,600 --> 02:34:18,600
Speaker 2: a counterfactual, but you never know, like whose career would

3501
02:34:18,600 --> 02:34:20,760
Speaker 2: have taken off because then Kirby's if Saban doesn't take

3502
02:34:20,760 --> 02:34:23,600
Speaker 2: off at Alabama, what Herby? Yeah, don't know.

3503
02:34:24,120 --> 02:34:27,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you feel like Alabama the way remind me of

3504
02:34:27,680 --> 02:34:29,119
Speaker 1: the head coach Utah.

3505
02:34:28,879 --> 02:34:30,120
Speaker 2: Again, Kyle Whittingham.

3506
02:34:30,160 --> 02:34:32,720
Speaker 3: You feel like the boor is in a similar situation,

3507
02:34:32,840 --> 02:34:35,959
Speaker 3: or it's like the feeling around Bama is Alabama has

3508
02:34:36,000 --> 02:34:39,160
Speaker 3: a down year and all we've done is watch Dabor

3509
02:34:39,360 --> 02:34:41,240
Speaker 3: double digit wins throughout his entire career.

3510
02:34:42,640 --> 02:34:44,880
Speaker 2: To a certain extent, yes, I think the difference with

3511
02:34:45,000 --> 02:34:47,640
Speaker 2: that is there's a huge portion of the public that

3512
02:34:47,760 --> 02:34:50,360
Speaker 2: actively wants Alabama to lose. I don't think there's a

3513
02:34:50,440 --> 02:34:53,160
Speaker 2: large portion of the public that hates Utah. They just

3514
02:34:53,240 --> 02:34:56,760
Speaker 2: don't really, They're indifferent. So they've chosen. Like, I think

3515
02:34:56,800 --> 02:34:59,440
Speaker 2: it's a lot easier to root for Kenny Dillingham. Kenny's

3516
02:34:59,440 --> 02:35:02,000
Speaker 2: an awesome dude. Ude. Really, it's really fun to say,

3517
02:35:02,080 --> 02:35:04,080
Speaker 2: like I love what they got going on in Arizona State,

3518
02:35:04,280 --> 02:35:07,440
Speaker 2: or like I love Iowa State. I love the colors,

3519
02:35:07,520 --> 02:35:09,760
Speaker 2: the mascots, a Tornado, they check all the boxes for me.

3520
02:35:10,040 --> 02:35:12,560
Speaker 2: Texas Tech just spent a ton in Nil So it's

3521
02:35:12,560 --> 02:35:15,440
Speaker 2: a lot more flashy to root for them. Utah's really

3522
02:35:15,520 --> 02:35:18,080
Speaker 2: meat and potatoes, which doesn't really sell. It's not all

3523
02:35:18,120 --> 02:35:20,800
Speaker 2: that sexy. So I think that people have forgotten about

3524
02:35:20,879 --> 02:35:23,920
Speaker 2: maybe them just because Utah was never at the forefront

3525
02:35:23,959 --> 02:35:26,160
Speaker 2: of their mind. Utah had to elbow their way into

3526
02:35:26,280 --> 02:35:29,080
Speaker 2: your line of sight every year. No one ever focuses

3527
02:35:29,120 --> 02:35:32,160
Speaker 2: on Utah. They make you focus on them. At Alabama,

3528
02:35:32,480 --> 02:35:34,200
Speaker 2: I mean, there are a hundred different reasons why people

3529
02:35:34,240 --> 02:35:36,320
Speaker 2: want to Board to fail. Unless you're Abama fan. Most

3530
02:35:36,360 --> 02:35:38,959
Speaker 2: of America wants him to fail. They want Bama to fail.

3531
02:35:39,200 --> 02:35:41,440
Speaker 2: Think about at any given point, like you said, when

3532
02:35:41,440 --> 02:35:44,480
Speaker 2: Saban's at Alabama, your one ray of hope in the

3533
02:35:44,640 --> 02:35:46,879
Speaker 2: SEC is this dude's a little bit older, so he's

3534
02:35:46,920 --> 02:35:50,240
Speaker 2: going to retire eventually. And you always told yourself Bama

3535
02:35:50,400 --> 02:35:53,360
Speaker 2: was bad before he got there, So it hasn't been

3536
02:35:53,440 --> 02:35:55,920
Speaker 2: a Bama thing. It's been a Saban thing. And once

3537
02:35:56,160 --> 02:35:58,720
Speaker 2: he leaves, Bama will revert back. Plus there's going to

3538
02:35:58,720 --> 02:36:00,720
Speaker 2: be a whole generation of in title fans who don't

3539
02:36:00,800 --> 02:36:03,840
Speaker 2: know reality, they don't know what losing's like. They'll be paranoid,

3540
02:36:03,840 --> 02:36:06,520
Speaker 2: they'll run the next coach out of town. The biggest nightmare,

3541
02:36:07,120 --> 02:36:10,440
Speaker 2: the biggest nightmare. Yeah, for any non SEC fan or

3542
02:36:10,560 --> 02:36:13,560
Speaker 2: non Bama fan. If we clip this later here, I'll

3543
02:36:13,640 --> 02:36:16,400
Speaker 2: just do this cleanly. The biggest nightmare for any non

3544
02:36:16,680 --> 02:36:20,440
Speaker 2: Bama fan has been saban Era ends. You breathe a

3545
02:36:20,480 --> 02:36:23,600
Speaker 2: sigh of relief, and somehow they find a replacement that

3546
02:36:23,800 --> 02:36:26,560
Speaker 2: meets that standard again, because it's not supposed to be possible.

3547
02:36:27,000 --> 02:36:29,760
Speaker 2: So if he comes in there and wins and dibores

3548
02:36:29,879 --> 02:36:31,800
Speaker 2: what in like his early fifties or something like that,

3549
02:36:32,360 --> 02:36:33,400
Speaker 2: then what do you.

3550
02:36:33,480 --> 02:36:34,720
Speaker 1: Do twenty more years?

3551
02:36:34,920 --> 02:36:36,920
Speaker 2: Hell, I was down there. I was down there over

3552
02:36:36,959 --> 02:36:39,160
Speaker 2: the weekend. I went and watch the scrimmage. That's one

3553
02:36:39,200 --> 02:36:43,280
Speaker 2: of the more physical scrimmages I've ever seen. They built different, dude,

3554
02:36:43,320 --> 02:36:46,080
Speaker 2: they got after a different group of cats. They got

3555
02:36:46,160 --> 02:36:47,960
Speaker 2: after it. It was more physical than a lot of

3556
02:36:48,000 --> 02:36:50,520
Speaker 2: the games you go to in the fall, which brings you.

3557
02:36:50,560 --> 02:36:52,560
Speaker 3: Back to Michigan. Yeah, you can beat them two times

3558
02:36:52,600 --> 02:36:52,920
Speaker 3: in a row.

3559
02:36:53,160 --> 02:36:55,680
Speaker 2: Physical ball club, Yeah, or you. I don't know.

3560
02:36:56,120 --> 02:37:00,040
Speaker 3: I'm not like Alabama hater, Wait have you? I'm I

3561
02:37:00,040 --> 02:37:03,560
Speaker 3: feel like Alabama hasn't been like people talk about Georgia like.

3562
02:37:03,600 --> 02:37:06,400
Speaker 3: I feel like they're not in the conversation as much

3563
02:37:06,640 --> 02:37:09,760
Speaker 3: as much. And they went nine to three last year,

3564
02:37:09,920 --> 02:37:13,880
Speaker 3: and I feel like just understanding, you know what happens

3565
02:37:13,920 --> 02:37:16,520
Speaker 3: when you're just absolutely superior and a coach has a

3566
02:37:17,320 --> 02:37:20,560
Speaker 3: you know, not up the expectation year. Then it's like,

3567
02:37:20,640 --> 02:37:23,200
Speaker 3: if they had another nine and three year, god forbid,

3568
02:37:23,280 --> 02:37:25,480
Speaker 3: eight for eight and four, it's like, are they going

3569
02:37:25,520 --> 02:37:26,520
Speaker 3: to be calling for a divorce?

3570
02:37:26,720 --> 02:37:29,480
Speaker 2: No, they would, right, they would, There's no doubt about that.

3571
02:37:29,560 --> 02:37:31,600
Speaker 2: It's you can think whatever you want to about it,

3572
02:37:32,200 --> 02:37:35,200
Speaker 2: but you don't get to take over that job at

3573
02:37:35,280 --> 02:37:37,600
Speaker 2: the level it was handed off to him and have

3574
02:37:37,959 --> 02:37:40,880
Speaker 2: two down years. The thing about replacing a legend. I

3575
02:37:40,920 --> 02:37:42,320
Speaker 2: sat in his office and talked to him about this

3576
02:37:42,400 --> 02:37:45,720
Speaker 2: for like two hours in the spring. He's absolutely wired

3577
02:37:45,760 --> 02:37:47,400
Speaker 2: the way you have to be wired to work at

3578
02:37:47,440 --> 02:37:51,120
Speaker 2: Alabama Post saving because he doesn't care about the whole

3579
02:37:51,240 --> 02:37:53,520
Speaker 2: No one wants to take over after a legend. What

3580
02:37:53,640 --> 02:37:56,840
Speaker 2: he cared about is is everything operational at the level

3581
02:37:56,879 --> 02:37:58,720
Speaker 2: it needs to be, because if it is, like he

3582
02:37:58,760 --> 02:38:00,960
Speaker 2: would never say this, but here's how he thinks. Because

3583
02:38:01,200 --> 02:38:04,600
Speaker 2: a one percenter thinks this way. They know Saban was great,

3584
02:38:04,840 --> 02:38:06,600
Speaker 2: but a one percenter looks in the mirror every morning

3585
02:38:06,640 --> 02:38:08,600
Speaker 2: it says, I'm pretty good too, Like I think I'm

3586
02:38:08,640 --> 02:38:10,200
Speaker 2: really good too. I think I may be the best

3587
02:38:10,240 --> 02:38:12,120
Speaker 2: in the game too. And if I'm being given what

3588
02:38:12,280 --> 02:38:14,360
Speaker 2: I need to win, I'm gonna win. I don't care

3589
02:38:14,400 --> 02:38:17,080
Speaker 2: who was the boss here before I was the trade

3590
02:38:17,120 --> 02:38:19,200
Speaker 2: off on that. The reason that's really so hard to

3591
02:38:19,280 --> 02:38:21,960
Speaker 2: replace a legend is because it's hard to win at

3592
02:38:21,959 --> 02:38:24,040
Speaker 2: a high level, period, but especially like if you look

3593
02:38:24,080 --> 02:38:27,440
Speaker 2: at the legends in college football, very few of them

3594
02:38:27,520 --> 02:38:31,640
Speaker 2: retired at their apex. Most of them hung around several

3595
02:38:31,800 --> 02:38:35,039
Speaker 2: years too long. So you were taking over a program

3596
02:38:35,200 --> 02:38:39,000
Speaker 2: that was trending downwards, but the expectations were still sky high,

3597
02:38:39,240 --> 02:38:41,680
Speaker 2: and no one had time for a rebuild. No one

3598
02:38:41,800 --> 02:38:43,960
Speaker 2: wanted to listen to you say, I just took over

3599
02:38:44,040 --> 02:38:46,160
Speaker 2: for a legend, but we got to start from scratch. Well,

3600
02:38:46,200 --> 02:38:47,959
Speaker 2: de Boor walked in. I mean, Saban had just gone

3601
02:38:47,959 --> 02:38:50,560
Speaker 2: to the playoffs and overtime against Michigan. Like that's when

3602
02:38:50,560 --> 02:38:52,520
Speaker 2: he said, all right, I'm out. So they got a

3603
02:38:52,600 --> 02:38:55,880
Speaker 2: loaded roster. They've i mean administratively, like they're about as

3604
02:38:55,879 --> 02:38:57,440
Speaker 2: good as anyone got one of the best ads in

3605
02:38:57,480 --> 02:39:00,680
Speaker 2: the country. So like organizationally, everything that's where you need it.

3606
02:39:01,000 --> 02:39:03,800
Speaker 2: He hands them a world class recruiting and personnel department.

3607
02:39:04,160 --> 02:39:06,320
Speaker 2: They kept a lot of those people. A lot of

3608
02:39:06,320 --> 02:39:08,920
Speaker 2: the saving people are still there. He infused some of

3609
02:39:09,000 --> 02:39:12,320
Speaker 2: his folks, but he wasn't ignorant enough to say, I

3610
02:39:12,400 --> 02:39:14,760
Speaker 2: think I'm just going to bring Washington down to Tuscaloosa.

3611
02:39:14,879 --> 02:39:17,920
Speaker 2: Like he kept a fair amount of mixture of the two.

3612
02:39:18,560 --> 02:39:20,880
Speaker 2: But you go into year two and all that sounds good. Yeah,

3613
02:39:20,879 --> 02:39:23,280
Speaker 2: you gotta win. You go eight and four again, there's

3614
02:39:23,320 --> 02:39:26,000
Speaker 2: no defending that you play a tough schedule. But yet

3615
02:39:26,560 --> 02:39:28,800
Speaker 2: I watched them Saturday. There aren't many rosters that look

3616
02:39:28,920 --> 02:39:31,800
Speaker 2: like that. There aren't many coaching staffs that are built

3617
02:39:31,920 --> 02:39:35,160
Speaker 2: like that. So twelve saturdays in the fall, that's when

3618
02:39:35,160 --> 02:39:39,879
Speaker 2: you get judged. It's totally fair. Get you so juiced

3619
02:39:39,879 --> 02:39:40,920
Speaker 2: out for here it does.

3620
02:39:41,480 --> 02:39:44,080
Speaker 3: Quick break from the episode, a question for you, what

3621
02:39:44,200 --> 02:39:46,199
Speaker 3: do you want to keep safe? Maybe it's your family,

3622
02:39:46,360 --> 02:39:49,720
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Speaker 2: Let me do a little scouting on my enemy. Okay,

3640
02:40:47,400 --> 02:40:51,119
Speaker 2: Ohio State. They're not all that are they.

3641
02:40:53,280 --> 02:40:57,760
Speaker 1: Think what their defense? They lose everybody except for two. Yeah,

3642
02:40:57,760 --> 02:40:59,680
Speaker 1: I mean they obviously gonna reload completely at the wide

3643
02:40:59,720 --> 02:41:03,560
Speaker 1: receiver position. There a wide receiver U essentially quarterback unproven

3644
02:41:03,920 --> 02:41:05,800
Speaker 1: Ryan day yippie.

3645
02:41:06,440 --> 02:41:07,320
Speaker 2: What does that mean?

3646
02:41:09,160 --> 02:41:09,320
Speaker 6: Oh?

3647
02:41:09,400 --> 02:41:12,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, some weird celebration.

3648
02:41:11,840 --> 02:41:18,960
Speaker 1: For hippieis versus Michigan. Like me, how are we feeling

3649
02:41:19,000 --> 02:41:20,080
Speaker 1: about Columbus?

3650
02:41:20,560 --> 02:41:24,280
Speaker 2: All right, it's ironic. They open against Texas because of

3651
02:41:24,280 --> 02:41:26,520
Speaker 2: the two teams that I'm having trouble with, or Texas

3652
02:41:26,560 --> 02:41:31,560
Speaker 2: and Ohio State only because them replacing production is not

3653
02:41:31,680 --> 02:41:34,240
Speaker 2: like a normal team replacing production. Because when you go

3654
02:41:34,360 --> 02:41:37,800
Speaker 2: watching practice, like when I go watch teams practice, I

3655
02:41:37,879 --> 02:41:40,800
Speaker 2: will stand with a player personnel, guy who knows the

3656
02:41:40,879 --> 02:41:43,400
Speaker 2: roster entirely, and all I'll do is say, who is that?

3657
02:41:43,480 --> 02:41:43,800
Speaker 1: Who is that?

3658
02:41:43,879 --> 02:41:46,360
Speaker 2: Who is that? Gimme history, gimme his story, and I'll

3659
02:41:46,360 --> 02:41:48,280
Speaker 2: ask about twos. I don't ask about the starters. You

3660
02:41:48,320 --> 02:41:50,080
Speaker 2: know the starters. I'll ask about twos and threes. And

3661
02:41:50,160 --> 02:41:53,600
Speaker 2: at Texas and Ohio State it's constantly that dude to start.

3662
02:41:53,600 --> 02:41:56,240
Speaker 2: Everywhere else that guy will be a future first round

3663
02:41:56,320 --> 02:41:57,720
Speaker 2: or for us, and they're running with the twos and

3664
02:41:57,760 --> 02:41:59,600
Speaker 2: the three. So like, okay, you put that in the

3665
02:41:59,600 --> 02:42:02,720
Speaker 2: back your and then you know, once they send thirteen, fourteen,

3666
02:42:02,800 --> 02:42:04,840
Speaker 2: fifteen to the draft, the two's become the ones, the

3667
02:42:04,879 --> 02:42:07,880
Speaker 2: three's become the twos. YadA, YadA, YadA. You don't know

3668
02:42:07,959 --> 02:42:11,480
Speaker 2: their names. But not every new starter is created equal

3669
02:42:11,520 --> 02:42:13,760
Speaker 2: in the sport. Texas and Ohio State have aliens on

3670
02:42:13,800 --> 02:42:17,080
Speaker 2: their bench doesn't mean anything. It doesn't guarantee that they're

3671
02:42:17,120 --> 02:42:19,440
Speaker 2: going to produce, but you just like, there's a benefit

3672
02:42:19,520 --> 02:42:21,280
Speaker 2: of the doubt you bake in. And I've done it

3673
02:42:21,400 --> 02:42:23,200
Speaker 2: with them. I did it with saving at Bam. I

3674
02:42:23,240 --> 02:42:24,600
Speaker 2: do it with Kirby, I do it with Sark, I

3675
02:42:24,680 --> 02:42:26,480
Speaker 2: do it with Landing. I'll do it with them too,

3676
02:42:27,000 --> 02:42:31,080
Speaker 2: to where if you think they're good enough, if they

3677
02:42:31,320 --> 02:42:34,120
Speaker 2: meet the standard it takes to start for you, I

3678
02:42:34,200 --> 02:42:35,879
Speaker 2: trust them. It may not be as good as last

3679
02:42:35,959 --> 02:42:39,200
Speaker 2: year's team. Maybe some of those guys raw talent levels

3680
02:42:39,280 --> 02:42:41,520
Speaker 2: better than last year's team, and the experienced levels not

3681
02:42:41,600 --> 02:42:45,119
Speaker 2: there those two teams. It's so important not to draw

3682
02:42:45,200 --> 02:42:48,440
Speaker 2: definitive conclusions after week one. Like Penn State, you can

3683
02:42:48,520 --> 02:42:51,119
Speaker 2: draw conclusions after week one. You've seen all those players.

3684
02:42:51,320 --> 02:42:53,760
Speaker 2: They added some wide receiver help, let's see what they

3685
02:42:53,800 --> 02:42:55,640
Speaker 2: are at tight end. But largely, like Penn State's going

3686
02:42:55,680 --> 02:42:58,680
Speaker 2: to be who they are, Ohio State and Texas should

3687
02:42:58,760 --> 02:43:01,240
Speaker 2: look a ton different in no like, when you play him,

3688
02:43:01,800 --> 02:43:04,560
Speaker 2: do you really think Ohio State goes to ann Arbor

3689
02:43:04,800 --> 02:43:06,680
Speaker 2: last week of November. It's just going to be like

3690
02:43:06,720 --> 02:43:09,200
Speaker 2: a copy and paste of week one in Columbus. There's

3691
02:43:09,240 --> 02:43:10,400
Speaker 2: no way that's the case. No.

3692
02:43:10,600 --> 02:43:12,840
Speaker 1: I mean there's so many different variables, injuries, all all

3693
02:43:12,879 --> 02:43:13,760
Speaker 1: sorts of difference.

3694
02:43:13,440 --> 02:43:15,800
Speaker 2: Things, even if they're healthy, different Jersey, even if ye're true,

3695
02:43:16,080 --> 02:43:18,360
Speaker 2: even if they went wire to wire healthy, which will

3696
02:43:18,400 --> 02:43:20,240
Speaker 2: never happen. I would love to see how different that

3697
02:43:20,320 --> 02:43:23,880
Speaker 2: team looks in week What is that fourteen? This year

3698
02:43:23,959 --> 02:43:25,840
Speaker 2: two by weeks? Yeah, I'd love to see how different

3699
02:43:25,879 --> 02:43:28,400
Speaker 2: they look. Not to mention there will be injury always.

3700
02:43:28,920 --> 02:43:29,160
Speaker 6: God.

3701
02:43:30,160 --> 02:43:32,039
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to the Texas hof State game.

3702
02:43:32,440 --> 02:43:33,520
Speaker 2: I'm excited, just.

3703
02:43:33,520 --> 02:43:37,160
Speaker 1: Like every other person is to see arch Manning. Is

3704
02:43:37,240 --> 02:43:39,480
Speaker 1: he really what everyone says he is? Seems like he

3705
02:43:39,520 --> 02:43:41,320
Speaker 1: has the right head on his shoulders. You know, he

3706
02:43:41,360 --> 02:43:43,080
Speaker 1: had a little press conmence the other day talking about

3707
02:43:43,080 --> 02:43:44,440
Speaker 1: doing shots. He's like, I'm twenty one, I can do

3708
02:43:44,480 --> 02:43:46,240
Speaker 1: a shot. Like, Oh, he's got a little personality to him.

3709
02:43:46,520 --> 02:43:49,560
Speaker 1: He's got that Manning pizzaz. You know, it's just like,

3710
02:43:50,200 --> 02:43:51,720
Speaker 1: is he going to be that guy? But do you

3711
02:43:51,879 --> 02:43:52,720
Speaker 1: that's a lot of pressure?

3712
02:43:52,840 --> 02:43:53,240
Speaker 4: Do you like?

3713
02:43:53,400 --> 02:43:55,840
Speaker 2: What? So if someone were to say, let's do the

3714
02:43:55,879 --> 02:43:58,920
Speaker 2: three of us here, someone tells you in ten seconds,

3715
02:43:59,160 --> 02:44:01,520
Speaker 2: give me your expects for Arch Manning this year?

3716
02:44:01,879 --> 02:44:06,600
Speaker 1: Go great? Heisman candidate go Heisman candidate, possible Master champion.

3717
02:44:06,680 --> 02:44:08,560
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be a fringe Heisman candidate.

3718
02:44:08,600 --> 02:44:10,440
Speaker 2: He's going to be a pretty good to really good quarterback.

3719
02:44:11,000 --> 02:44:13,600
Speaker 2: So I stopped short of the whole hyping him up

3720
02:44:13,600 --> 02:44:16,120
Speaker 2: to be elite, hyping him up to be the Heisman favorite,

3721
02:44:16,360 --> 02:44:19,840
Speaker 2: only cause people do that all the time to college players.

3722
02:44:20,200 --> 02:44:23,120
Speaker 2: And then it gets to December and let's say I

3723
02:44:23,440 --> 02:44:25,000
Speaker 2: let's say I think arch is the best quarterback in

3724
02:44:25,000 --> 02:44:27,040
Speaker 2: the country. I pick him to win the Heisman. He's

3725
02:44:27,160 --> 02:44:30,200
Speaker 2: the fourth best quarterback in the country this year. What

3726
02:44:30,440 --> 02:44:33,879
Speaker 2: happens in sports media land is no one looks at

3727
02:44:33,920 --> 02:44:37,440
Speaker 2: that kid in December and says, well, he played the

3728
02:44:37,480 --> 02:44:39,400
Speaker 2: way he was going to play. I'm the I'm the

3729
02:44:39,440 --> 02:44:41,840
Speaker 2: dude who screwed up. I'm the dude who over hyped him.

3730
02:44:41,840 --> 02:44:43,360
Speaker 2: No one does that. No one ever looks in the mirror.

3731
02:44:43,440 --> 02:44:46,000
Speaker 2: They look at the kid and say, you were a bust. Right.

3732
02:44:46,200 --> 02:44:48,879
Speaker 2: But Arch Manning hasn't set an expectation for himself. Arch

3733
02:44:48,920 --> 02:44:51,760
Speaker 2: Manning hasn't made a prediction on himself. People who write

3734
02:44:51,800 --> 02:44:53,560
Speaker 2: for a living or talk for a living have so

3735
02:44:53,720 --> 02:44:54,879
Speaker 2: like the way I do it. With all these new

3736
02:44:54,920 --> 02:44:58,879
Speaker 2: starters is I assume that dude's there's a very high

3737
02:44:58,959 --> 02:45:02,240
Speaker 2: floor for him. But my expectation for him is, I

3738
02:45:02,320 --> 02:45:04,320
Speaker 2: think you're gonna be pretty good to really good. Anything

3739
02:45:04,360 --> 02:45:07,280
Speaker 2: above and beyond that is just gravy for me. You're

3740
02:45:07,320 --> 02:45:09,640
Speaker 2: playing for Texas. You shouldn't have to be an elite

3741
02:45:09,720 --> 02:45:13,200
Speaker 2: quarterback to win at Texas. If you are, they'll remember

3742
02:45:13,240 --> 02:45:15,039
Speaker 2: you for a long time. You could have an iconic

3743
02:45:15,120 --> 02:45:17,760
Speaker 2: season loading all that. But I think he's gonna be

3744
02:45:17,760 --> 02:45:20,039
Speaker 2: pretty good to really good. I think they'll be inconsistencies.

3745
02:45:20,200 --> 02:45:22,480
Speaker 2: He's human. Uh, they're gonna there's gonna be a game

3746
02:45:22,720 --> 02:45:25,520
Speaker 2: randomly where he throws two picks before halftime and people

3747
02:45:25,560 --> 02:45:27,920
Speaker 2: are gonna say, sorry, do you have to think about

3748
02:45:27,959 --> 02:45:29,720
Speaker 2: maybe making a change? No, you don't make a change

3749
02:45:29,760 --> 02:45:32,000
Speaker 2: in the third quarter. This is this is real life.

3750
02:45:32,680 --> 02:45:35,280
Speaker 2: You got He's got to go to Columbus, Gainesville and

3751
02:45:35,440 --> 02:45:39,200
Speaker 2: Athens before they even play O you in Dallas. I

3752
02:45:39,280 --> 02:45:41,440
Speaker 2: think like his four toughest games are away from Austin.

3753
02:45:41,959 --> 02:45:46,640
Speaker 1: That stuff's not easy, right, kind of a soft take though,

3754
02:45:46,760 --> 02:45:48,440
Speaker 1: just kind of making it easy, right, I'm making it

3755
02:45:48,520 --> 02:45:52,000
Speaker 1: easy on I'm making yeah, kind of a cop out.

3756
02:45:53,480 --> 02:45:55,480
Speaker 1: Heisman national champion. I think he's gonna be good to

3757
02:45:55,640 --> 02:45:56,279
Speaker 1: pretty good.

3758
02:45:56,160 --> 02:45:59,000
Speaker 2: Good to pretty good. Anyone can say that. But I

3759
02:45:59,040 --> 02:46:01,640
Speaker 2: picked material to win the high Man. Yeah that's a.

3760
02:46:01,840 --> 02:46:02,080
Speaker 6: That's a.

3761
02:46:02,480 --> 02:46:04,879
Speaker 1: You think he's gonna play the whole season with suspending.

3762
02:46:04,600 --> 02:46:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I do. I do. I'm comfortable he put

3763
02:46:07,560 --> 02:46:08,280
Speaker 2: a statement out.

3764
02:46:09,120 --> 02:46:12,879
Speaker 1: Every statements, I mean, what more can you do. I'm sure,

3765
02:46:13,120 --> 02:46:15,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's a good kid, and I'm sure he

3766
02:46:15,400 --> 02:46:17,840
Speaker 1: fucks around and mess with his boys or whatever.

3767
02:46:18,000 --> 02:46:20,200
Speaker 2: But you know, that hit home for me because I

3768
02:46:20,480 --> 02:46:23,040
Speaker 2: am still on my dad's cell phone plan. I've never

3769
02:46:23,080 --> 02:46:24,800
Speaker 2: gotten off of it. I pay him, I pay him

3770
02:46:24,800 --> 02:46:27,520
Speaker 2: every month. But I'm I've never come off of my parents'

3771
02:46:27,520 --> 02:46:29,680
Speaker 2: cell phone plan, and I'm nearly forty years old to

3772
02:46:29,720 --> 02:46:34,320
Speaker 2: grow up, So I really am I pay I pay

3773
02:46:34,440 --> 02:46:37,280
Speaker 2: my dad via Vemo every month. If you were to

3774
02:46:37,400 --> 02:46:39,360
Speaker 2: look at the transaction, if I was dumb and excuse me,

3775
02:46:39,400 --> 02:46:41,480
Speaker 2: if I were inexperienced in life enough to have my

3776
02:46:41,600 --> 02:46:46,040
Speaker 2: transaction history on public and you saw what I use

3777
02:46:47,280 --> 02:46:49,120
Speaker 2: as the description when I pay my dad for my

3778
02:46:49,160 --> 02:46:50,720
Speaker 2: cell phone bill, you would think we were running a

3779
02:46:50,760 --> 02:46:53,440
Speaker 2: Mexican drug cartel. And all I'm doing is paying my

3780
02:46:53,480 --> 02:46:55,480
Speaker 2: cell phone bill, so we're running a cartel, like one

3781
02:46:55,560 --> 02:46:58,280
Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen dollars at a time. But so when

3782
02:46:58,320 --> 02:47:01,240
Speaker 2: he said, look, I've never bet on sports in my life.

3783
02:47:01,720 --> 02:47:03,920
Speaker 2: It's just an inside joke between me and my buddies.

3784
02:47:05,560 --> 02:47:08,560
Speaker 2: He's probably lying, but I got it. I related to

3785
02:47:08,680 --> 02:47:11,200
Speaker 2: it because that's what I do. Probably lyon, but I

3786
02:47:11,360 --> 02:47:11,640
Speaker 2: got it.

3787
02:47:12,480 --> 02:47:14,640
Speaker 3: Do we want to do before we let Josh peiy go?

3788
02:47:14,760 --> 02:47:18,120
Speaker 3: Do we want to talk about the conclusion of the

3789
02:47:18,200 --> 02:47:20,680
Speaker 3: Michigan Wolverines. You said you want to do a little Yeah.

3790
02:47:20,720 --> 02:47:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to know about what do you think

3791
02:47:22,160 --> 02:47:24,720
Speaker 1: about my Wolverines. I want to get your true opinion

3792
02:47:24,760 --> 02:47:26,480
Speaker 1: about Bryce underward if you've been able to watch him

3793
02:47:26,480 --> 02:47:26,960
Speaker 1: at practice.

3794
02:47:26,959 --> 02:47:28,400
Speaker 2: I have not been up there. Oh, I have not

3795
02:47:28,440 --> 02:47:30,160
Speaker 2: been able to watch. So I think it's gonna be

3796
02:47:30,160 --> 02:47:34,119
Speaker 2: pretty good, really good. That's where that's where I think.

3797
02:47:34,040 --> 02:47:35,720
Speaker 1: He seems like a cat to me, Like even sitting

3798
02:47:35,760 --> 02:47:39,600
Speaker 1: here as a Michigan Homer, like, the expectation is insane

3799
02:47:39,600 --> 02:47:39,960
Speaker 1: for this kid.

3800
02:47:40,080 --> 02:47:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the one. He's the one guy that he

3801
02:47:42,879 --> 02:47:45,120
Speaker 2: could transform the season for because if you think about it,

3802
02:47:45,200 --> 02:47:47,200
Speaker 2: like I think the same thing about Georgia's offensive line,

3803
02:47:47,560 --> 02:47:51,080
Speaker 2: the Michigan quarterback position. If they get a minus quarterback

3804
02:47:51,120 --> 02:47:54,280
Speaker 2: play when everyone's expecting question mark or C plus or

3805
02:47:54,280 --> 02:47:59,120
Speaker 2: B minus, it's fundamentally changes their season and the season

3806
02:47:59,240 --> 02:48:03,200
Speaker 2: downstream of like ten other teams. Yeah, so I haven't

3807
02:48:03,240 --> 02:48:04,400
Speaker 2: been able to watch them though, so I don't know.

3808
02:48:04,560 --> 02:48:06,800
Speaker 1: Basically, what you're saying is Michigan football.

3809
02:48:07,480 --> 02:48:09,680
Speaker 2: And everything just revolves. That's it.

3810
02:48:09,800 --> 02:48:13,160
Speaker 1: Did they get a slap on the risk for theirs?

3811
02:48:13,600 --> 02:48:16,640
Speaker 2: I didn't get upset about it, fine, because I thought

3812
02:48:16,920 --> 02:48:19,960
Speaker 2: what happened was what was going to happen. Here's what

3813
02:48:20,040 --> 02:48:25,440
Speaker 2: I'll say. They alleged multiple level one violations when you

3814
02:48:25,560 --> 02:48:27,879
Speaker 2: were a kid. You were a kid, I was a kid.

3815
02:48:27,959 --> 02:48:31,680
Speaker 2: That means hammer's dropping on your head, borderline death penalty,

3816
02:48:31,840 --> 02:48:34,560
Speaker 2: multi year postseason band all right. A lot of people

3817
02:48:34,640 --> 02:48:38,120
Speaker 2: out in Ohio state message board world allowed themselves to

3818
02:48:38,200 --> 02:48:40,360
Speaker 2: believe it was still two thousand and three, and it's not.

3819
02:48:40,840 --> 02:48:43,119
Speaker 2: And so my whole philosophy and I know this because

3820
02:48:43,120 --> 02:48:45,240
Speaker 2: I had a network executive explained it to me. I

3821
02:48:45,360 --> 02:48:47,920
Speaker 2: wasn't just guessing my way through it. They said, do

3822
02:48:48,080 --> 02:48:51,440
Speaker 2: you really think that we are paying billions of dollars

3823
02:48:52,360 --> 02:48:55,880
Speaker 2: to leagues which are just university presidents. That's what a

3824
02:48:55,959 --> 02:49:00,520
Speaker 2: league is. Those university presidents created the NCAA the same

3825
02:49:00,600 --> 02:49:04,640
Speaker 2: way that NFL owners created Roger Goodell's position, so that

3826
02:49:04,760 --> 02:49:06,440
Speaker 2: he can take the heat and take the ARA so

3827
02:49:06,520 --> 02:49:09,240
Speaker 2: the owners don't have to. Well, university presidents created the

3828
02:49:09,320 --> 02:49:12,600
Speaker 2: NCAA and the Enforcement Arm and the Investigation Arm and

3829
02:49:12,720 --> 02:49:16,840
Speaker 2: the Committee on Infractions. They own that like they created it.

3830
02:49:16,920 --> 02:49:19,000
Speaker 2: And that executive said, do you really think we're going

3831
02:49:19,080 --> 02:49:21,960
Speaker 2: to hand billions of dollars to university presidents only for

3832
02:49:22,040 --> 02:49:25,680
Speaker 2: those university presidents to voluntarily have an enforcement arm that

3833
02:49:26,200 --> 02:49:30,400
Speaker 2: punitively punishes one of the assets that we paid for

3834
02:49:30,720 --> 02:49:32,640
Speaker 2: to the point where a fewer people watch it. That's

3835
02:49:32,680 --> 02:49:34,360
Speaker 2: not what we're in the business of doing. So they

3836
02:49:34,400 --> 02:49:36,400
Speaker 2: can find them all they want to, they can give

3837
02:49:36,400 --> 02:49:38,160
Speaker 2: show causes all they want to. They're not getting a

3838
02:49:38,160 --> 02:49:41,440
Speaker 2: postseason banned. That was never on the table, and people

3839
02:49:41,560 --> 02:49:43,720
Speaker 2: built it up in their minds, and they said, well,

3840
02:49:43,760 --> 02:49:46,800
Speaker 2: look at what happened in previous worlds when Level one

3841
02:49:46,920 --> 02:49:50,600
Speaker 2: violations were alleged. That's a previous world. Billions were not

3842
02:49:50,680 --> 02:49:53,280
Speaker 2: on the table back then, just merely millions. We're in

3843
02:49:53,400 --> 02:49:56,760
Speaker 2: billions land now, no one gets postseason banned.

3844
02:49:56,600 --> 02:49:59,520
Speaker 1: Anymorey, big whale hunting is what we're doing around here. Yeah,

3845
02:49:59,600 --> 02:50:03,440
Speaker 1: so base, what you're saying is a lot of allegations.

3846
02:50:03,760 --> 02:50:06,720
Speaker 1: They did their investigation, realized we don't have a whole

3847
02:50:06,760 --> 02:50:08,760
Speaker 1: lot of footing to stand on, and so they slapped

3848
02:50:08,800 --> 02:50:11,400
Speaker 1: him with a twenty million dollar fine aka dropping the

3849
02:50:11,440 --> 02:50:14,040
Speaker 1: bucket and says Sean, you got to suspend yourself for

3850
02:50:14,080 --> 02:50:15,360
Speaker 1: one more game, and and.

3851
02:50:15,480 --> 02:50:17,840
Speaker 2: You just choose when it's gonna be this year, next year, whatever.

3852
02:50:18,160 --> 02:50:20,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is us saving face.

3853
02:50:21,240 --> 02:50:24,920
Speaker 2: I do think it looked. Yes, yeah, what you said, right, I.

3854
02:50:25,080 --> 02:50:26,200
Speaker 3: Think we don't have to do anymore.

3855
02:50:26,400 --> 02:50:26,440
Speaker 2: No.

3856
02:50:26,480 --> 02:50:28,920
Speaker 1: I thought they were going to go retracting wins. I

3857
02:50:28,959 --> 02:50:30,280
Speaker 1: thought they were going to try and do that. I

3858
02:50:30,360 --> 02:50:32,200
Speaker 1: never believed that matter, which, by the way, is the

3859
02:50:32,280 --> 02:50:32,760
Speaker 1: dumbest thing.

3860
02:50:32,840 --> 02:50:37,120
Speaker 2: No, I've never believed it matters. I got his.

3861
02:50:37,120 --> 02:50:38,840
Speaker 1: Heisman, like he had his heisman. He's got a photo

3862
02:50:38,879 --> 02:50:40,640
Speaker 1: with the heisman. Oh you don't get the heisman anymore.

3863
02:50:40,720 --> 02:50:41,400
Speaker 1: Still got the photo.

3864
02:50:41,560 --> 02:50:43,080
Speaker 2: I said this on my show, and a bunch of

3865
02:50:43,120 --> 02:50:44,840
Speaker 2: people said, oh, it matters a lot. I said, no,

3866
02:50:44,920 --> 02:50:47,400
Speaker 2: it doesn't. I was there, like I was there when

3867
02:50:47,440 --> 02:50:49,800
Speaker 2: you won the national Championship. I still there with JJ

3868
02:50:49,920 --> 02:50:51,960
Speaker 2: McCarthy on TV after the game. You can't tell me

3869
02:50:52,000 --> 02:50:55,040
Speaker 2: all of a sudden from Indianapolis, Indiana at NCAA headquarters. Hey,

3870
02:50:55,480 --> 02:50:58,320
Speaker 2: that experience you had, forget it, it happened, didn't exist.

3871
02:50:58,600 --> 02:51:00,520
Speaker 2: So that never mattered to me. That's why I thought

3872
02:51:00,560 --> 02:51:03,280
Speaker 2: they'd do it, because that's all window dressing, that's all aesthetic.

3873
02:51:03,520 --> 02:51:04,240
Speaker 2: They didn't even do that.

3874
02:51:04,400 --> 02:51:07,080
Speaker 1: And also when the microscope finally went on Michigan, it's

3875
02:51:07,400 --> 02:51:11,000
Speaker 1: right before Penn State, Maryland, which I said that he

3876
02:51:11,200 --> 02:51:14,000
Speaker 1: was gonna be the hardest game of the year, Ohio State, Alabama,

3877
02:51:14,080 --> 02:51:17,360
Speaker 1: and Washington. So if you're being everyone is watching every

3878
02:51:17,400 --> 02:51:19,680
Speaker 1: single thing you do. Let's say you were cheating. Let's

3879
02:51:19,680 --> 02:51:21,480
Speaker 1: say all the worst things are real. There's no way

3880
02:51:21,480 --> 02:51:22,920
Speaker 1: to cheat. Those games, can't do it.

3881
02:51:23,480 --> 02:51:25,400
Speaker 3: They also would have never gotten rid of any evidence.

3882
02:51:26,440 --> 02:51:29,640
Speaker 3: Who what Like Michigan got rid of all the evidence.

3883
02:51:29,760 --> 02:51:32,280
Speaker 3: Like they said that something happened, but there was nothing

3884
02:51:32,360 --> 02:51:35,640
Speaker 3: that they could the manifesto lived out Like I'm talking

3885
02:51:35,720 --> 02:51:39,280
Speaker 3: Topuku gutted himself through cell phones in the water.

3886
02:51:39,840 --> 02:51:42,360
Speaker 1: A lot of evidence was a lot of alleged a

3887
02:51:42,400 --> 02:51:45,840
Speaker 1: lot of alleged things happened, but the manifesto it's like, yeah, sorry,

3888
02:51:45,920 --> 02:51:48,440
Speaker 1: my boy is detail oriented who is also a marine,

3889
02:51:48,480 --> 02:51:50,360
Speaker 1: by the way, show some respect.

3890
02:51:51,000 --> 02:51:54,160
Speaker 2: So it's like, you attack Michigan, you attacked the huge people.

3891
02:51:54,200 --> 02:52:01,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you ta Michigan. Like, listen, Michigan didn't do anything wrong.

3892
02:52:01,600 --> 02:52:02,920
Speaker 3: I feel like how long?

3893
02:52:03,040 --> 02:52:03,440
Speaker 1: How long?

3894
02:52:03,600 --> 02:52:05,440
Speaker 2: Is just amazing?

3895
02:52:05,600 --> 02:52:05,760
Speaker 1: Man.

3896
02:52:06,520 --> 02:52:09,480
Speaker 2: Clearly they did stuff wrong, right, clearly they did. You

3897
02:52:09,520 --> 02:52:11,480
Speaker 2: don't have to pretend it's a boy scout troop up there.

3898
02:52:11,920 --> 02:52:12,600
Speaker 2: You don't have to do that.

3899
02:52:12,680 --> 02:52:13,160
Speaker 1: You don't have to go.

3900
02:52:13,200 --> 02:52:15,720
Speaker 2: Scouts on or they did stuff wrong. They didn't get

3901
02:52:15,720 --> 02:52:17,960
Speaker 2: popped for it, and it wasn't as wrong as some

3902
02:52:18,080 --> 02:52:21,119
Speaker 2: of the internet was. Didn't do anything wrong.

3903
02:52:21,560 --> 02:52:25,039
Speaker 1: Listen, there are rules, Yes, Mike vrabel sits there, he goes.

3904
02:52:25,080 --> 02:52:28,120
Speaker 1: You find the rules, you exploit them, and you good

3905
02:52:28,160 --> 02:52:30,960
Speaker 1: teams use the rules to their advantage. Michigan is a

3906
02:52:31,040 --> 02:52:33,720
Speaker 1: good football team that took the rules, found the gray,

3907
02:52:34,040 --> 02:52:36,640
Speaker 1: explored the gray. Those will be sewn up. There's a

3908
02:52:36,680 --> 02:52:40,280
Speaker 1: reason why the reason. There's a reason why there's tax.

3909
02:52:41,040 --> 02:52:42,000
Speaker 1: There's a reason why there's tax.

3910
02:52:42,080 --> 02:52:48,240
Speaker 2: Lobonaires. There's a different gray area. Gray areas you skirt

3911
02:52:48,360 --> 02:52:49,160
Speaker 2: us to trying.

3912
02:52:49,360 --> 02:52:52,360
Speaker 1: You're trying to compete. You want these things to not happen.

3913
02:52:52,680 --> 02:52:55,200
Speaker 2: Make them black and white rules. I got no problem

3914
02:52:55,240 --> 02:52:57,280
Speaker 2: with it. I'm not running the anything wrong. I'm just

3915
02:52:57,280 --> 02:52:59,560
Speaker 2: saying it's a great area only because you know they

3916
02:52:59,680 --> 02:53:01,560
Speaker 2: really can't pop you for it, even though there's a

3917
02:53:01,640 --> 02:53:05,320
Speaker 2: rule against it. That's different than you haven't thought, like

3918
02:53:05,440 --> 02:53:07,720
Speaker 2: landing point twelve on the team on the field last

3919
02:53:07,800 --> 02:53:10,200
Speaker 2: year and the big tank got mad and he was like,

3920
02:53:10,440 --> 02:53:13,600
Speaker 2: there's no rule against it. Yes, that's different than what

3921
02:53:13,640 --> 02:53:16,200
Speaker 2: we're talking about here. You got off because there are

3922
02:53:16,320 --> 02:53:19,480
Speaker 2: rules against illegal scouting. It's just Connor looked at it

3923
02:53:19,520 --> 02:53:21,280
Speaker 2: and said, how are they ever going to prove this?

3924
02:53:21,840 --> 02:53:23,440
Speaker 2: Which was smart because they can't.

3925
02:53:23,879 --> 02:53:27,240
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, But Connor his punishment, what is it like

3926
02:53:27,280 --> 02:53:28,640
Speaker 1: an eight year Oh?

3927
02:53:28,720 --> 02:53:32,480
Speaker 2: Yes, like which honestly he got the punishment. Who said

3928
02:53:32,640 --> 02:53:35,280
Speaker 2: someone was anybody got punished, he got he punished. But

3929
02:53:35,360 --> 02:53:37,400
Speaker 2: I mean he could go work in the NFL tomorrow.

3930
02:53:37,520 --> 02:53:39,520
Speaker 2: There's a role in the NFL for him tomorrow. Yeah

3931
02:53:39,520 --> 02:53:42,760
Speaker 2: it's in Seattle. I bet could be. I bet you

3932
02:53:43,360 --> 02:53:43,600
Speaker 2: could be.

3933
02:53:44,879 --> 02:53:48,600
Speaker 3: No, you're you're right, I do Yeah, yeah, I wasn't.

3934
02:53:48,959 --> 02:53:51,400
Speaker 2: I just love the to the two sides of this.

3935
02:53:51,520 --> 02:53:54,000
Speaker 2: I watched this from a distance, and I watched Ohio

3936
02:53:54,120 --> 02:53:58,720
Speaker 2: State claim that anything less than removing the Michigan logo

3937
02:53:59,120 --> 02:54:01,840
Speaker 2: from the sport of college football would be a stain

3938
02:54:02,480 --> 02:54:04,840
Speaker 2: on the veil of the game, right and get on

3939
02:54:04,920 --> 02:54:07,240
Speaker 2: this bus. And we did nothing wrong.

3940
02:54:07,600 --> 02:54:09,560
Speaker 3: We did nothing wrong, because you got a Michigan side

3941
02:54:09,640 --> 02:54:12,200
Speaker 3: where there's like this this this arrogance about it, like

3942
02:54:12,320 --> 02:54:16,240
Speaker 3: they just they don't say that, they claim that nothing happened.

3943
02:54:16,240 --> 02:54:18,600
Speaker 3: And it's like, you guys can have some awareness and

3944
02:54:19,160 --> 02:54:20,840
Speaker 3: know that something happened, but you got away with it.

3945
02:54:20,959 --> 02:54:22,600
Speaker 3: Like you guys still won the.

3946
02:54:22,680 --> 02:54:25,199
Speaker 1: National title, still won the national can't take it away

3947
02:54:25,200 --> 02:54:27,960
Speaker 1: from it, can't take it away. We did it. It's like, yeah,

3948
02:54:28,080 --> 02:54:30,400
Speaker 1: Connor did was he at the tentionral Michigan game? Probably

3949
02:54:31,240 --> 02:54:31,360
Speaker 1: was he?

3950
02:54:31,640 --> 02:54:33,000
Speaker 3: What was he doing those days?

3951
02:54:33,080 --> 02:54:34,560
Speaker 1: Probably prove it.

3952
02:54:35,680 --> 02:54:36,879
Speaker 3: I think I did get it done.

3953
02:54:36,959 --> 02:54:40,200
Speaker 2: I think you did.

3954
02:54:41,240 --> 02:54:44,240
Speaker 1: You did, I will say, and I know, like obviously,

3955
02:54:44,280 --> 02:54:46,240
Speaker 1: ohiose Sate and I have a very interesting relationship. But

3956
02:54:47,080 --> 02:54:49,760
Speaker 1: the fact that Michigan had all these things and get

3957
02:54:49,879 --> 02:54:53,400
Speaker 1: slapped with what they had, but in twenty eleven or ten,

3958
02:54:53,680 --> 02:54:57,160
Speaker 1: they get free tattoos and they have bull bands when

3959
02:54:57,480 --> 02:54:58,600
Speaker 1: they went that was.

3960
02:54:59,360 --> 02:55:00,400
Speaker 2: They would have won the Nay?

3961
02:55:00,720 --> 02:55:03,920
Speaker 3: Would they would have won the Natty Championship.

3962
02:55:04,320 --> 02:55:06,560
Speaker 1: That is the craziest s if i'mn'n know how a

3963
02:55:06,560 --> 02:55:07,680
Speaker 1: State fan. I'm pissed about it too.

3964
02:55:07,800 --> 02:55:11,840
Speaker 2: I'm going to have every I completely court. I'm getting

3965
02:55:11,879 --> 02:55:12,600
Speaker 2: my wins back.

3966
02:55:14,240 --> 02:55:16,320
Speaker 1: Was it UCF that put up their twenty twenty three

3967
02:55:16,440 --> 02:55:17,520
Speaker 1: National Championship banner?

3968
02:55:17,680 --> 02:55:18,840
Speaker 2: Hang State?

3969
02:55:18,879 --> 02:55:19,680
Speaker 3: That's what I'm doing.

3970
02:55:21,720 --> 02:55:22,119
Speaker 2: To Michigan.

3971
02:55:22,320 --> 02:55:25,039
Speaker 1: We won the Natty in twenty eleven or whatever the year,

3972
02:55:25,080 --> 02:55:26,039
Speaker 1: words that they didn't.

3973
02:55:28,560 --> 02:55:30,480
Speaker 2: Prove we didn't. No, I get it.

3974
02:55:30,680 --> 02:55:32,440
Speaker 1: I understand the whole Michigan thing and people want to

3975
02:55:32,440 --> 02:55:34,800
Speaker 1: hate on it. I think it's funnier than anything else.

3976
02:55:34,959 --> 02:55:35,520
Speaker 2: I did laugh.

3977
02:55:36,120 --> 02:55:41,480
Speaker 1: Heyt that does suck. That State fan that is got

3978
02:55:41,600 --> 02:55:48,640
Speaker 1: a that is some bullshit. Whatever. Manch Mitch is an

3979
02:55:48,640 --> 02:55:51,360
Speaker 1: Ohio State fans alleged, Yeah, he didn't know. The de

3980
02:55:51,480 --> 02:55:57,119
Speaker 1: coordinator alleged, Yeah, so you haven't really done a deep

3981
02:55:57,120 --> 02:55:58,800
Speaker 1: dove on Michigan yet. You haven't looked into it.

3982
02:55:59,560 --> 02:56:01,600
Speaker 2: Not he did, degree of like going up there and

3983
02:56:01,680 --> 02:56:02,279
Speaker 2: watching them.

3984
02:56:02,360 --> 02:56:05,400
Speaker 1: Okay, but you've looked into them. You've looked into their

3985
02:56:05,600 --> 02:56:08,119
Speaker 1: enough threes. Yeah, like I mean, so if we threw

3986
02:56:08,160 --> 02:56:09,880
Speaker 1: up the schedule here, you'd have a good thought. Probably

3987
02:56:09,879 --> 02:56:10,760
Speaker 1: think I had him at eight and four.

3988
02:56:11,480 --> 02:56:13,199
Speaker 2: I don't like that. I took under eight and a half.

3989
02:56:13,560 --> 02:56:14,120
Speaker 2: I did take that.

3990
02:56:14,320 --> 02:56:15,480
Speaker 1: I saw, I saw a tweet.

3991
02:56:15,600 --> 02:56:17,720
Speaker 2: Ye I blocked you. But I feel like it's twenty

3992
02:56:17,760 --> 02:56:20,840
Speaker 2: twenty six. I look at this, You're gonna feel different,

3993
02:56:20,879 --> 02:56:23,199
Speaker 2: which I would if I were you. Two. I'm looking

3994
02:56:23,240 --> 02:56:25,520
Speaker 2: at them and saying it kind of like with the

3995
02:56:25,600 --> 02:56:27,480
Speaker 2: thing we were talking about a second ago with Arch.

3996
02:56:27,959 --> 02:56:30,360
Speaker 2: Anything above eight and a half wins. I get this

3997
02:56:30,520 --> 02:56:32,960
Speaker 2: year great, wonderful. If we go on a run, we

3998
02:56:33,040 --> 02:56:34,320
Speaker 2: go on a run. But I look at the way

3999
02:56:34,320 --> 02:56:37,280
Speaker 2: they're built with underwood. I am thinking twenty twenty six.

4000
02:56:37,400 --> 02:56:39,680
Speaker 2: I'm viewing this entire prism or season through the prism

4001
02:56:39,720 --> 02:56:41,880
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty six. So I think they're a year

4002
02:56:41,920 --> 02:56:43,760
Speaker 2: away in a lot of areas. That's what I'm saying.

4003
02:56:44,080 --> 02:56:44,760
Speaker 2: That's what the vible.

4004
02:56:44,760 --> 02:56:47,000
Speaker 1: Where do Where do you see them falling? Don't say Nebraska,

4005
02:56:47,120 --> 02:56:50,400
Speaker 1: but you see them losing Oklahoma? Oh, you you're gonna

4006
02:56:50,440 --> 02:56:51,040
Speaker 1: pick Nebraska.

4007
02:56:51,400 --> 02:56:53,920
Speaker 2: Maybe, Well, if you don't look at the mass clusters

4008
02:56:54,000 --> 02:56:57,680
Speaker 2: like USC and who else This Washington team sucked on

4009
02:56:57,720 --> 02:56:59,720
Speaker 2: the road last year. That's gonna be a sleeper team

4010
02:56:59,720 --> 02:57:01,560
Speaker 2: this year. That's one of the best quarterbacks you'll face

4011
02:57:01,600 --> 02:57:06,600
Speaker 2: this year. Keep scrolling Michigan State USC kind of as

4012
02:57:06,640 --> 02:57:07,480
Speaker 2: a sleeper, but I don't have.

4013
02:57:07,520 --> 02:57:12,840
Speaker 1: That USC at USC. Yeah, last year, enough data anytime

4014
02:57:12,920 --> 02:57:14,560
Speaker 1: the Big Ten had to travel.

4015
02:57:17,120 --> 02:57:20,800
Speaker 2: Going out west though, I don't know that was a

4016
02:57:20,800 --> 02:57:21,680
Speaker 2: classic game last year.

4017
02:57:22,720 --> 02:57:24,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the last one steal o.

4018
02:57:24,440 --> 02:57:26,600
Speaker 2: Higo State game. I mean I'd pick Ohio State right now,

4019
02:57:26,640 --> 02:57:28,680
Speaker 2: but I've picked them four years in the row. So yeah,

4020
02:57:28,760 --> 02:57:32,600
Speaker 2: to me, it's like, doesn't matter. Yeah, Hog States, it

4021
02:57:32,640 --> 02:57:35,200
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. I'll probably just keep picking them now out

4022
02:57:35,240 --> 02:57:36,240
Speaker 2: of principal.

4023
02:57:36,280 --> 02:57:38,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't change it because I keep any Michigan.

4024
02:57:38,480 --> 02:57:39,920
Speaker 2: Well, think about how dumb you look if you picked

4025
02:57:39,959 --> 02:57:41,280
Speaker 2: Ohio State four years in a row and then the

4026
02:57:41,360 --> 02:57:43,640
Speaker 2: year you picked Michigan at inverts So you just got

4027
02:57:43,760 --> 02:57:44,520
Speaker 2: to stay on one side.

4028
02:57:45,200 --> 02:57:47,039
Speaker 3: But you look at the it's not the most difficult

4029
02:57:47,040 --> 02:57:47,760
Speaker 3: schedule in the world.

4030
02:57:47,879 --> 02:57:49,680
Speaker 2: No, it's not a close games.

4031
02:57:49,720 --> 02:57:52,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you got Oklahoma, Nebraska are tough games. US

4032
02:57:52,440 --> 02:57:53,080
Speaker 1: he is a tough game.

4033
02:57:53,959 --> 02:57:54,359
Speaker 2: Washington.

4034
02:57:54,440 --> 02:57:56,560
Speaker 1: I think it's a gift back here, we got one,

4035
02:57:56,680 --> 02:57:58,120
Speaker 1: they got one. They come to Michigan.

4036
02:57:58,560 --> 02:58:02,000
Speaker 2: I'm wondering, just a random game on October fourth, Wisconsin,

4037
02:58:02,440 --> 02:58:04,879
Speaker 2: multiple years in under Luke Fickle, I'm shocked there where

4038
02:58:04,920 --> 02:58:07,400
Speaker 2: they are. See I I don't know a lot about Wisconsin.

4039
02:58:08,360 --> 02:58:10,440
Speaker 2: I don't have an identity exactly. You can't know. That's

4040
02:58:10,440 --> 02:58:11,119
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about.

4041
02:58:11,160 --> 02:58:13,720
Speaker 1: You are kind of saying they're like bad here, toughier

4042
02:58:13,760 --> 02:58:14,879
Speaker 1: coming to I think I took.

4043
02:58:14,800 --> 02:58:16,840
Speaker 2: Under five and a half wins on them. I think

4044
02:58:16,840 --> 02:58:17,520
Speaker 2: they're gonna be bad.

4045
02:58:17,640 --> 02:58:19,840
Speaker 1: So you think October four, they're just gonna sneak up

4046
02:58:19,840 --> 02:58:20,280
Speaker 1: on Michigan.

4047
02:58:20,400 --> 02:58:23,360
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying is it shouldn't be what I'm saying,

4048
02:58:23,879 --> 02:58:27,720
Speaker 2: Multiple years in under Luke Fickle, like questioning the identity

4049
02:58:27,760 --> 02:58:29,320
Speaker 2: of that team was the last place I thought I

4050
02:58:29,360 --> 02:58:31,800
Speaker 2: would be. But he tried to do something different.

4051
02:58:31,879 --> 02:58:32,160
Speaker 1: He did.

4052
02:58:32,800 --> 02:58:35,240
Speaker 2: People aren't talking about it. But like Lincoln Riley made

4053
02:58:35,280 --> 02:58:37,640
Speaker 2: a bad offensive or a defense coordinator higher when he

4054
02:58:37,680 --> 02:58:40,520
Speaker 2: first took over, Kelly did the same thing at LSU.

4055
02:58:40,920 --> 02:58:43,880
Speaker 2: They have since course corrected. Fickle did that offensively. He

4056
02:58:43,959 --> 02:58:46,959
Speaker 2: hired Phil Longo, and he tried to change what Wisconsin

4057
02:58:47,040 --> 02:58:49,160
Speaker 2: had been for one hundred years and it failed, and

4058
02:58:49,280 --> 02:58:51,400
Speaker 2: now they're trying to course correct and it's like, but

4059
02:58:51,520 --> 02:58:54,920
Speaker 2: you're doing that three years in, right, and that's not

4060
02:58:54,920 --> 02:58:56,840
Speaker 2: what you're supposed to be doing three years in. So

4061
02:58:57,360 --> 02:58:59,640
Speaker 2: I'm not saying no, that's not like an upset potential game.

4062
02:58:59,680 --> 02:59:02,199
Speaker 2: I'm just Wisconsin plays the toughest schedule in that league

4063
02:59:02,240 --> 02:59:05,360
Speaker 2: this year there there, I think they play one team

4064
02:59:05,480 --> 02:59:09,320
Speaker 2: in conference play that has worse odds than them. Every

4065
02:59:09,440 --> 02:59:11,920
Speaker 2: other eight of the nine Big Ten games they play

4066
02:59:12,160 --> 02:59:14,160
Speaker 2: are against teams with better odds than them, and they

4067
02:59:14,240 --> 02:59:16,800
Speaker 2: play BAM out of conference on the road in Tuscaloosa.

4068
02:59:17,400 --> 02:59:20,080
Speaker 2: So if they win five games this year, what are

4069
02:59:20,080 --> 02:59:20,440
Speaker 2: they doing?

4070
02:59:21,320 --> 02:59:21,480
Speaker 1: Right?

4071
02:59:23,160 --> 02:59:23,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah.

4072
02:59:23,800 --> 02:59:28,080
Speaker 3: I was surprised too with Fickle talks about the Cincinnati.

4073
02:59:29,280 --> 02:59:32,440
Speaker 2: That sneaky, not that game, but Illinois is a team

4074
02:59:32,600 --> 02:59:35,240
Speaker 2: As a usc goes there in like Week five, I

4075
02:59:35,320 --> 02:59:36,880
Speaker 2: think it's like one of the sneak games of the year,

4076
02:59:37,360 --> 02:59:38,920
Speaker 2: like Southern Cal. If they win that, when they're off

4077
02:59:38,959 --> 02:59:41,080
Speaker 2: to the races, they're undefeated when they play all they

4078
02:59:41,160 --> 02:59:43,280
Speaker 2: got on the road at Notre Dame after that, like

4079
02:59:43,360 --> 02:59:45,680
Speaker 2: Southern Cal's in the playoff picture. If they win that game.

4080
02:59:45,720 --> 02:59:47,280
Speaker 2: If they lose that game, it's probably the first of

4081
02:59:47,320 --> 02:59:53,280
Speaker 2: three or four losses again, gotcha, yea, yeah, USC at Illinois,

4082
02:59:54,400 --> 02:59:55,720
Speaker 2: I don't think the country is going to be talking

4083
02:59:55,720 --> 02:59:58,480
Speaker 2: about that. USC at Illinois and like Texas at Florida

4084
02:59:58,720 --> 03:00:01,960
Speaker 2: are two random, huge, huge games on the schedule around

4085
03:00:02,000 --> 03:00:04,480
Speaker 2: the same time that the people just start circling it

4086
03:00:04,520 --> 03:00:07,480
Speaker 2: because they're not typical rivalry games. They don't happen every year.

4087
03:00:08,120 --> 03:00:10,760
Speaker 2: Florida people aren't used to being a competitor. Illinois that

4088
03:00:10,840 --> 03:00:12,760
Speaker 2: people are not used for them to be in the picture.

4089
03:00:12,760 --> 03:00:14,920
Speaker 2: And they're both in the picture this year, and it's

4090
03:00:15,000 --> 03:00:16,960
Speaker 2: just those games are there, and you're gonna get to

4091
03:00:17,000 --> 03:00:18,400
Speaker 2: that week and you're gonna say, oh, this is a

4092
03:00:18,520 --> 03:00:22,280
Speaker 2: huge game. Yeah, I think it'll make or break USC season.

4093
03:00:22,760 --> 03:00:24,600
Speaker 2: It could make or break Texas the season. When they

4094
03:00:24,600 --> 03:00:27,000
Speaker 2: go into Gainsville, they will have already played Ohio State

4095
03:00:27,040 --> 03:00:30,280
Speaker 2: on the road. They go into Gainsville, they've got owe

4096
03:00:30,360 --> 03:00:33,200
Speaker 2: you the next week, and they still got a trip

4097
03:00:33,240 --> 03:00:35,680
Speaker 2: to Georgia later in the year, so New Texas has

4098
03:00:35,720 --> 03:00:38,240
Speaker 2: got It's not the toughest schedule in the league. All

4099
03:00:38,240 --> 03:00:39,000
Speaker 2: their tough ones are on the.

4100
03:00:39,040 --> 03:00:41,000
Speaker 1: Road, though, big boys schedule.

4101
03:00:41,040 --> 03:00:43,560
Speaker 3: I like it for a final question or Bud like,

4102
03:00:43,879 --> 03:00:44,280
Speaker 3: what's up?

4103
03:00:44,400 --> 03:00:46,120
Speaker 2: I said, one more before you do? Bud like question?

4104
03:00:46,840 --> 03:00:48,400
Speaker 1: Any relation to brock Bowers.

4105
03:00:49,680 --> 03:00:56,480
Speaker 2: DNA wise, I don't think so. However, you know there's

4106
03:00:56,520 --> 03:00:59,240
Speaker 2: more to that than just blood. Yeah, and so I

4107
03:00:59,320 --> 03:01:02,119
Speaker 2: feel a lot close to broad now than I did

4108
03:01:02,600 --> 03:01:06,520
Speaker 2: two three weeks ago. And you both got hair. You

4109
03:01:06,520 --> 03:01:12,400
Speaker 2: would't understand it. Side note, my beautiful wife piece of

4110
03:01:12,480 --> 03:01:15,640
Speaker 2: advice walking out the door this morning, this came out

4111
03:01:15,680 --> 03:01:17,280
Speaker 2: of her mouth. I kid you not. She goes, where

4112
03:01:17,280 --> 03:01:18,360
Speaker 2: are you going? I said, I'm going to do the

4113
03:01:18,400 --> 03:01:22,800
Speaker 2: bus and show. She said, don't try and upstage them.

4114
03:01:22,879 --> 03:01:27,840
Speaker 2: They have mustaches. I just looked at her, like I'm

4115
03:01:27,840 --> 03:01:29,119
Speaker 2: looking at you now.

4116
03:01:29,680 --> 03:01:32,320
Speaker 1: Did that make you think I should grow a mustache?

4117
03:01:32,480 --> 03:01:35,000
Speaker 2: It made me think you've never mentioned facial hair to

4118
03:01:35,080 --> 03:01:37,320
Speaker 2: me in my life. I didn't know that you were

4119
03:01:37,360 --> 03:01:40,240
Speaker 2: harboring this idea that like you're inferior if you're not

4120
03:01:40,320 --> 03:01:42,880
Speaker 2: walking around with it. But now it's not. I love you,

4121
03:01:43,000 --> 03:01:44,440
Speaker 2: I'll see you later, Like do you want me to

4122
03:01:44,480 --> 03:01:46,160
Speaker 2: cook to night? It's don't try and upstage them. They

4123
03:01:46,200 --> 03:01:49,920
Speaker 2: have mustaches. So for bron Bowers to be coming to

4124
03:01:50,040 --> 03:01:52,680
Speaker 2: me instead of you know, me going towards brockb It

4125
03:01:52,720 --> 03:01:54,240
Speaker 2: feels good. Yeah, welcome.

4126
03:01:54,920 --> 03:01:55,879
Speaker 3: I can open up a can of.

4127
03:01:55,879 --> 03:01:56,680
Speaker 1: Worms with a mustache.

4128
03:01:56,680 --> 03:01:57,640
Speaker 2: Thing. Know, I kind of want to see you with

4129
03:01:57,680 --> 03:02:00,200
Speaker 2: a mustache. I do too, No, I want to see, like,

4130
03:02:01,240 --> 03:02:01,960
Speaker 2: what's it look like?

4131
03:02:02,600 --> 03:02:03,120
Speaker 6: Sha you?

4132
03:02:03,160 --> 03:02:03,560
Speaker 2: Ever seen you?

4133
03:02:03,600 --> 03:02:04,000
Speaker 1: Look at you?

4134
03:02:04,080 --> 03:02:06,800
Speaker 2: Ever seen Joe Dirt? Yeah? Okay, so Joe Dirt. When

4135
03:02:06,800 --> 03:02:09,160
Speaker 2: he went on the radio show. The guy sat across

4136
03:02:09,160 --> 03:02:10,920
Speaker 2: from him and he said, wait a second, you're telling

4137
03:02:10,959 --> 03:02:12,959
Speaker 2: me your facial hair actually grows in on its own,

4138
03:02:13,000 --> 03:02:13,600
Speaker 2: all white trash.

4139
03:02:13,640 --> 03:02:14,000
Speaker 1: You like that?

4140
03:02:14,440 --> 03:02:16,600
Speaker 2: He goes, yeah, that's kind of what's happening. It's a

4141
03:02:16,640 --> 03:02:19,320
Speaker 2: white trashy look. It's blonde. I think I need not

4142
03:02:19,480 --> 03:02:22,280
Speaker 2: great blonde. It's not great, so I just have never

4143
03:02:22,400 --> 03:02:22,920
Speaker 2: let it happen.

4144
03:02:23,040 --> 03:02:23,879
Speaker 3: I think we need it and.

4145
03:02:23,920 --> 03:02:26,200
Speaker 1: Nomber yeah, we need the mustache starting now.

4146
03:02:26,480 --> 03:02:29,720
Speaker 2: I can't tell you how important the charity would have

4147
03:02:29,840 --> 03:02:32,160
Speaker 2: to be to me for me to participate.

4148
03:02:32,240 --> 03:02:32,800
Speaker 3: What's your number?

4149
03:02:34,920 --> 03:02:37,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna write it down for you, okay, yeah, off air,

4150
03:02:38,520 --> 03:02:40,960
Speaker 2: and then I'll show that on the locker room this week.

4151
03:02:41,080 --> 03:02:41,879
Speaker 2: It's eight figures.

4152
03:02:42,200 --> 03:02:48,279
Speaker 1: Oh ship, yeah, never mind, Well, your little blonde mustache

4153
03:02:48,480 --> 03:02:51,320
Speaker 1: just from N's CVS. Being made that thing darker.

4154
03:02:51,480 --> 03:02:53,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, every every road you're going down hypothetical, I've already

4155
03:02:53,879 --> 03:02:54,720
Speaker 2: gone down it fair enough.

4156
03:02:54,760 --> 03:02:56,920
Speaker 1: We'll figure out if you figure out the future that

4157
03:02:57,000 --> 03:03:00,240
Speaker 1: he puts in on it and if he loses it, yeah,

4158
03:03:00,320 --> 03:03:01,760
Speaker 1: look at that and be honest with you. One thing

4159
03:03:01,800 --> 03:03:03,920
Speaker 1: with the locker room, We're going to find out. There's

4160
03:03:03,920 --> 03:03:06,840
Speaker 1: always these bets and it always involves losing the top

4161
03:03:06,879 --> 03:03:08,400
Speaker 1: of your hair or facial hair.

4162
03:03:08,640 --> 03:03:09,440
Speaker 2: Yah, what happens.

4163
03:03:09,480 --> 03:03:11,360
Speaker 3: And it's always he nails that right for you.

4164
03:03:11,520 --> 03:03:14,120
Speaker 2: I'm never done. Me and brock Bowers were good. You

4165
03:03:14,200 --> 03:03:15,200
Speaker 2: bet something else for us?

4166
03:03:15,520 --> 03:03:18,040
Speaker 3: Bud light question. You know people would do anything for

4167
03:03:18,120 --> 03:03:20,280
Speaker 3: a nice cold bud light. What is something that Josh

4168
03:03:20,360 --> 03:03:21,400
Speaker 3: Pate would do anything for.

4169
03:03:24,840 --> 03:03:29,200
Speaker 2: I would love to be able to go to pre

4170
03:03:29,400 --> 03:03:35,480
Speaker 2: technological times and be able to watch like surveillance camera

4171
03:03:35,600 --> 03:03:39,400
Speaker 2: footage of stuff before cameras existed. You could watch dinosaurs.

4172
03:03:39,800 --> 03:03:42,200
Speaker 2: You could watch like the Declaration of Independence get signed.

4173
03:03:42,760 --> 03:03:44,400
Speaker 2: Like you, we live in a world now where anything

4174
03:03:44,440 --> 03:03:46,880
Speaker 2: that happened in the last what like seventy five to

4175
03:03:46,920 --> 03:03:50,920
Speaker 2: one hundred years, you've got photos of Like I've seen

4176
03:03:50,959 --> 03:03:53,680
Speaker 2: the Kennedy assassination. I've seen the moon landing, I think

4177
03:03:53,720 --> 03:03:56,880
Speaker 2: I have. I've seen the Challenger explosion, like all the

4178
03:03:57,000 --> 03:03:59,560
Speaker 2: big stuff nine to eleven, Like there's footage of that.

4179
03:04:00,440 --> 03:04:04,440
Speaker 2: You have to imagine what it looked like when the

4180
03:04:04,640 --> 03:04:08,000
Speaker 2: first white settlers came to America, What America looked like

4181
03:04:08,120 --> 03:04:10,960
Speaker 2: before that? What did what did it look like? Like

4182
03:04:11,080 --> 03:04:13,840
Speaker 2: I said, when dinosaurs roam the earth, you just get

4183
03:04:13,879 --> 03:04:16,840
Speaker 2: to watch cartoons of that or you watch like recreations

4184
03:04:16,879 --> 03:04:18,720
Speaker 2: of it, but you don't get to actually see what

4185
03:04:18,840 --> 03:04:20,800
Speaker 2: it looked like. There could have been a stegosaurus where

4186
03:04:20,840 --> 03:04:23,600
Speaker 2: this bus is right now on a Tuesday afternoon. I

4187
03:04:23,640 --> 03:04:25,680
Speaker 2: don't think they knew it was Tuesday. But like you're

4188
03:04:25,720 --> 03:04:27,959
Speaker 2: watching that stuff in prehistoric times, but you're actually getting

4189
03:04:27,959 --> 03:04:30,160
Speaker 2: to see it. If you could deliver that to me,

4190
03:04:30,240 --> 03:04:31,680
Speaker 2: I would, That's what I would.

4191
03:04:31,680 --> 03:04:32,520
Speaker 1: Do you do anything for?

4192
03:04:33,680 --> 03:04:35,960
Speaker 2: That's a great answer, he said, I would, because what

4193
03:04:36,040 --> 03:04:38,840
Speaker 2: would you dial up? Like I go to dinosaurs?

4194
03:04:38,959 --> 03:04:40,720
Speaker 1: You had me on dinosaurs. I probably want to see

4195
03:04:40,720 --> 03:04:43,160
Speaker 1: that media impact. Figure out what really happened there?

4196
03:04:43,280 --> 03:04:43,400
Speaker 6: Right?

4197
03:04:43,640 --> 03:04:44,840
Speaker 1: Did we decided as the meteor?

4198
03:04:45,040 --> 03:04:45,960
Speaker 3: Have we figured that out?

4199
03:04:46,040 --> 03:04:48,080
Speaker 2: Look, I'm not one hundred percent on it. I'm not

4200
03:04:48,120 --> 03:04:50,480
Speaker 2: one hundred percent on most things. This is how we

4201
03:04:50,520 --> 03:04:52,480
Speaker 2: find out and then the bad parties. You come back

4202
03:04:52,520 --> 03:04:53,960
Speaker 2: to the future and you try and convince people they

4203
03:04:53,959 --> 03:04:55,480
Speaker 2: don't believe you, right, can we get.

4204
03:04:55,400 --> 03:04:57,640
Speaker 1: The Last Supper? Like life slong life stream.

4205
03:04:58,080 --> 03:04:59,920
Speaker 2: Here's another one too. You kind of had a conspiracy.

4206
03:05:00,080 --> 03:05:02,000
Speaker 1: Have you heard the conspiracy of like the Nazis fleeting

4207
03:05:02,080 --> 03:05:04,840
Speaker 1: to South America? Yeah, I'd like to see that. Like

4208
03:05:05,040 --> 03:05:06,560
Speaker 1: where was Hitler at and his little bunker?

4209
03:05:06,640 --> 03:05:07,039
Speaker 3: Did he did?

4210
03:05:07,160 --> 03:05:09,720
Speaker 2: Or did you take that pill? So much stuff, I know,

4211
03:05:10,040 --> 03:05:11,680
Speaker 2: there's so much stuff about history.

4212
03:05:11,760 --> 03:05:20,240
Speaker 1: Pyramids, Yeah, pyramids, that's a good one. Just also, yeah,

4213
03:05:20,520 --> 03:05:25,440
Speaker 1: it's a blink stone hinge. Bigot walked the Earth a

4214
03:05:27,520 --> 03:05:32,560
Speaker 1: million air hurt? Did you so? I heard they might

4215
03:05:32,600 --> 03:05:34,120
Speaker 1: have found her plane in Antarctica?

4216
03:05:34,200 --> 03:05:36,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they say that like every two years. Yeah,

4217
03:05:36,360 --> 03:05:37,600
Speaker 2: but this is the most this is the real.

4218
03:05:37,800 --> 03:05:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm just delivering you a message that I've seen with

4219
03:05:39,480 --> 03:05:42,039
Speaker 1: my own eyes on the Instagram. But like they found

4220
03:05:42,080 --> 03:05:46,240
Speaker 1: a plane that was like buried into around the same year,

4221
03:05:46,720 --> 03:05:49,360
Speaker 1: into a clip side in Antarctica. See.

4222
03:05:49,440 --> 03:05:52,640
Speaker 2: I heard some some rumors that some terrible stuff could

4223
03:05:52,640 --> 03:05:53,840
Speaker 2: have happened to them. When they crashed.

4224
03:05:54,680 --> 03:05:58,280
Speaker 1: Just internet rumor, like talking about lower Yeah, like like

4225
03:05:58,320 --> 03:06:00,480
Speaker 1: desserted island they float upon, like.

4226
03:06:00,520 --> 03:06:04,240
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe don't die when you land, but maybe some

4227
03:06:04,360 --> 03:06:06,680
Speaker 2: people find you, you know that kind of stuff. I

4228
03:06:06,720 --> 03:06:08,320
Speaker 2: don't know. I wasn't there, Like I said, I don't

4229
03:06:08,320 --> 03:06:10,920
Speaker 2: have the footage, right, but and that's not that long ago.

4230
03:06:11,000 --> 03:06:13,280
Speaker 2: It just so happened. We didn't have cameras over the ocean,

4231
03:06:13,400 --> 03:06:15,959
Speaker 2: so we didn't see that. But if we go back

4232
03:06:16,040 --> 03:06:19,600
Speaker 2: to like thirteen hundred, go up out of the Dark

4233
03:06:19,680 --> 03:06:22,320
Speaker 2: Ages something like that in the Roman Empire, you get

4234
03:06:22,320 --> 03:06:24,640
Speaker 2: to see the entire Roman Empire. That'd be sick. Yeah.

4235
03:06:25,920 --> 03:06:33,119
Speaker 3: So Marcus Aurelia is dropping pods for US Weekly. Yeah yeah,

4236
03:06:33,360 --> 03:06:33,800
Speaker 3: what would be.

4237
03:06:33,959 --> 03:06:35,440
Speaker 1: What would be the one place you started?

4238
03:06:35,480 --> 03:06:38,240
Speaker 2: Dinosaurs? I think I would start at dinosaurs, yeah, and

4239
03:06:38,280 --> 03:06:40,480
Speaker 2: then I would just start going famous moments throughout history.

4240
03:06:42,760 --> 03:06:46,880
Speaker 2: How do you not how are you not fascinated? I haven't.

4241
03:06:48,160 --> 03:06:49,680
Speaker 2: Oh oh this gets me to another thing.

4242
03:06:49,920 --> 03:06:50,840
Speaker 3: So big dinosaur.

4243
03:06:51,120 --> 03:06:52,879
Speaker 2: I'm a big dinosaur guy. I'm a big storm chasing

4244
03:06:52,920 --> 03:06:56,160
Speaker 2: guy too. I would love to go back before meteorological

4245
03:06:56,240 --> 03:07:00,760
Speaker 2: records existed, because you know, like severe weather, huge hurricane, huge, droughts,

4246
03:07:00,840 --> 03:07:03,640
Speaker 2: huge snowstorms were happening forever as long as the earth

4247
03:07:03,680 --> 03:07:06,320
Speaker 2: has been here. So I always think about like Nashville, Tennessee.

4248
03:07:06,720 --> 03:07:07,960
Speaker 2: Right if you want to go and check out the

4249
03:07:08,080 --> 03:07:10,640
Speaker 2: biggest one day snowfall, you could do that. But the

4250
03:07:10,680 --> 03:07:13,400
Speaker 2: records only go back like one hundred years. So who's

4251
03:07:13,440 --> 03:07:16,879
Speaker 2: to say in January of fourteen hundred and eighty three

4252
03:07:17,320 --> 03:07:19,880
Speaker 2: there wasn't a three foot snowfall where we're sitting right now,

4253
03:07:20,120 --> 03:07:22,080
Speaker 2: Or who's to say there wasn't the equivalent of an

4254
03:07:22,120 --> 03:07:24,320
Speaker 2: e F five tornado that came through. Who's to say

4255
03:07:24,360 --> 03:07:27,560
Speaker 2: there wasn't like the strongest Cat five hurricane in history

4256
03:07:27,640 --> 03:07:31,160
Speaker 2: making landfall in Biloxi, Mississippi. That's a little more nerdish.

4257
03:07:31,200 --> 03:07:32,760
Speaker 2: Not as many people would be into that, but I'm

4258
03:07:32,800 --> 03:07:33,080
Speaker 2: into that.

4259
03:07:33,360 --> 03:07:36,280
Speaker 1: I love throughout this podcast, how many random cities and

4260
03:07:36,320 --> 03:07:38,640
Speaker 1: states you say, yeah, you got to drop it. It's fun. Yeah,

4261
03:07:38,680 --> 03:07:41,520
Speaker 1: it's a fun. It's a nationwide show chasing tornadoes.

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Speaker 3: How many have you chased?

4263
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Speaker 2: I'm at thirteen, you're at thirteen. I've seen thirteen ten,

4264
03:07:45,560 --> 03:07:48,200
Speaker 2: you're fourteenth. Be with the boys. I've already spoken to

4265
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Speaker 2: someone about making this happen.

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Speaker 1: Really okay, good because I think that would be This

4267
03:07:52,520 --> 03:07:57,920
Speaker 1: could be such a cut. Yes, imagine us in Oklahoma.

4268
03:07:58,160 --> 03:08:00,760
Speaker 1: There's still mourning the loss of Michigan and week Just.

4269
03:08:04,280 --> 03:08:07,600
Speaker 3: How real is the ambition for college football commissioner?

4270
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Speaker 2: It's real. I take it tomorrow. I'm equipped, I'm qualified.

4271
03:08:12,959 --> 03:08:15,360
Speaker 2: It's probably why I won't get the job. But I

4272
03:08:15,440 --> 03:08:18,480
Speaker 2: got really good ideas. I got really good ideas.

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Speaker 1: What are three ideas implement right out of the gates.

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03:08:22,200 --> 03:08:24,960
Speaker 2: First thing is I would so all these people talking

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03:08:25,000 --> 03:08:28,160
Speaker 2: about private equity, I would try and harness private equity

4276
03:08:28,720 --> 03:08:31,960
Speaker 2: to compensate for all the money grabs. Let me give

4277
03:08:31,959 --> 03:08:36,120
Speaker 2: you an example. Georgia Tech plays Georgia every year. Georgia

4278
03:08:36,200 --> 03:08:39,080
Speaker 2: Tech is moving their home game against Georgia to Mercedes

4279
03:08:39,120 --> 03:08:41,160
Speaker 2: been Stadium this year because they can get twelve million

4280
03:08:41,280 --> 03:08:44,000
Speaker 2: more dollars out of it. You're taking away a home

4281
03:08:44,080 --> 03:08:47,280
Speaker 2: field rivalry moment for the sake of more money, because

4282
03:08:47,320 --> 03:08:49,040
Speaker 2: you need it, because you're in a new era. So

4283
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Speaker 2: I would love to get private money. And I would

4284
03:08:51,280 --> 03:08:53,119
Speaker 2: love to funnel and say, Georgia Tech keep your game

4285
03:08:53,200 --> 03:08:55,680
Speaker 2: at home, will subsidize it. I would love to harness

4286
03:08:55,760 --> 03:08:58,360
Speaker 2: private money that way. Private equity money that way. Second

4287
03:08:58,400 --> 03:09:02,279
Speaker 2: thing I would love to do is basically take control

4288
03:09:02,360 --> 03:09:05,280
Speaker 2: of conferences from a media rights perspective, and I would

4289
03:09:05,280 --> 03:09:08,000
Speaker 2: love to have a college football media rights deal instead

4290
03:09:08,000 --> 03:09:09,720
Speaker 2: of the SEC having their own, the Big Ten having

4291
03:09:09,720 --> 03:09:12,560
Speaker 2: their own. I would love look like the NFL broadcast

4292
03:09:12,680 --> 03:09:14,400
Speaker 2: rights deal of nineteen sixty one would have to be

4293
03:09:14,440 --> 03:09:16,200
Speaker 2: addressed here, but I mean I would be in the

4294
03:09:16,280 --> 03:09:19,160
Speaker 2: president's back pocket, so I get this taken care of.

4295
03:09:19,560 --> 03:09:21,120
Speaker 2: This is a MAGA podcast, we can talk about that.

4296
03:09:21,640 --> 03:09:25,600
Speaker 2: So I would love because first off, what happens right

4297
03:09:25,640 --> 03:09:28,600
Speaker 2: now is like Fox has very little incentive to talk

4298
03:09:28,640 --> 03:09:32,840
Speaker 2: about the SEC, ESPN has very little incentive to just

4299
03:09:33,000 --> 03:09:36,080
Speaker 2: talk about the Big Ten because they're not in business

4300
03:09:36,160 --> 03:09:38,600
Speaker 2: with each other a whole lot, which is very stupid

4301
03:09:38,640 --> 03:09:41,720
Speaker 2: because in the aggregate the game doesn't scale. Also, the

4302
03:09:41,840 --> 03:09:46,840
Speaker 2: playoff contract one network owns it instead of NBCCBS, Fox

4303
03:09:46,879 --> 03:09:48,880
Speaker 2: all having a piece of it, which means there's very

4304
03:09:48,920 --> 03:09:52,440
Speaker 2: little incentive for them to promote the playoff and promote

4305
03:09:52,520 --> 03:09:54,400
Speaker 2: the game moving towards the playoff because they don't have

4306
03:09:54,440 --> 03:09:56,440
Speaker 2: a cut of it. So I would do away with that.

4307
03:09:56,800 --> 03:09:59,200
Speaker 2: And I would also love to reconfigure things where conferences

4308
03:09:59,240 --> 03:10:02,560
Speaker 2: made sense to where Stanford is not playing a conference

4309
03:10:02,640 --> 03:10:05,320
Speaker 2: game at Wake Forest just for the sake of someone

4310
03:10:05,480 --> 03:10:07,760
Speaker 2: that you and you and me will never meet cash

4311
03:10:07,800 --> 03:10:10,160
Speaker 2: in a few more zeros on a paycheck. I would

4312
03:10:10,200 --> 03:10:13,160
Speaker 2: love for that to not matter anymore. I would also

4313
03:10:14,000 --> 03:10:16,520
Speaker 2: even in a pure dictatorship, like if I'm the commissioner

4314
03:10:16,520 --> 03:10:18,320
Speaker 2: and everything I say goes, if I'm a king of

4315
03:10:18,360 --> 03:10:21,680
Speaker 2: college football, I would have so many things that are

4316
03:10:21,720 --> 03:10:24,760
Speaker 2: popular vote decided. I would take my authority and I

4317
03:10:24,760 --> 03:10:27,320
Speaker 2: would say, I'm putting it to the side. We're deciding

4318
03:10:27,360 --> 03:10:30,440
Speaker 2: this by popular vote. I would just hold a national vote,

4319
03:10:31,440 --> 03:10:34,480
Speaker 2: just pure democracy on some things.

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Speaker 3: And the whole promotional thing too. It's like, when was

4321
03:10:39,080 --> 03:10:43,360
Speaker 3: it last year? Was it like New Year's? Was it

4322
03:10:43,480 --> 03:10:45,320
Speaker 3: New Year's where it just felt like no one even

4323
03:10:45,400 --> 03:10:47,439
Speaker 3: knew that? Or was it the National Championship?

4324
03:10:47,560 --> 03:10:51,240
Speaker 2: It was both, it was both. I would also love

4325
03:10:51,320 --> 03:10:56,040
Speaker 2: to work with the NFL. Look, man, I got the

4326
03:10:56,200 --> 03:10:59,920
Speaker 2: NFL benefits a lot from college football from a marketing

4327
03:11:00,000 --> 03:11:03,560
Speaker 2: and development perspective. The NFL gets ready made assets handed

4328
03:11:03,640 --> 03:11:06,080
Speaker 2: to them on Draft night that have been developed on

4329
03:11:06,160 --> 03:11:08,560
Speaker 2: college football's dime. NFL hasn't had to pay a dime

4330
03:11:08,640 --> 03:11:11,480
Speaker 2: for the development piece, and they have been marketed on

4331
03:11:11,560 --> 03:11:15,080
Speaker 2: college Football's dime to where when you draft Taylor Lawan,

4332
03:11:15,280 --> 03:11:17,600
Speaker 2: I know about him because he played at Michigan. I

4333
03:11:17,720 --> 03:11:19,440
Speaker 2: know about him because I watched him start at left

4334
03:11:19,480 --> 03:11:20,960
Speaker 2: tackle for all these years you drafted, and but I

4335
03:11:20,959 --> 03:11:23,040
Speaker 2: already know who he is, So you don't have to

4336
03:11:23,160 --> 03:11:24,800
Speaker 2: tell me who he is, and you don't have to

4337
03:11:24,920 --> 03:11:27,440
Speaker 2: develop him to the degree that you have to in college.

4338
03:11:27,560 --> 03:11:29,080
Speaker 2: The NFL never has to fit the bill for that,

4339
03:11:29,160 --> 03:11:31,640
Speaker 2: and yet when it comes time to decide the broadcast schedule,

4340
03:11:31,959 --> 03:11:33,920
Speaker 2: that's the one area where I really wish the NFL

4341
03:11:33,959 --> 03:11:36,600
Speaker 2: would work with college a little bit to make sure

4342
03:11:36,720 --> 03:11:39,920
Speaker 2: like college football's postseason isn't a good spot. And instead

4343
03:11:39,920 --> 03:11:41,920
Speaker 2: it feels like you have to fight the NFL on

4344
03:11:42,040 --> 03:11:45,520
Speaker 2: every bit of that. So that's probably because people running

4345
03:11:45,520 --> 03:11:47,640
Speaker 2: college football have no clue how to work with the NFL.

4346
03:11:48,240 --> 03:11:50,000
Speaker 2: I think I do a better job working with the NFL.

4347
03:11:50,840 --> 03:11:54,240
Speaker 1: I love it start the playoffs right after a championship week,

4348
03:11:54,320 --> 03:11:56,080
Speaker 1: I think, so, yeah, I have to. Yeah, I think,

4349
03:11:56,160 --> 03:11:58,240
Speaker 1: so keep that, just keep it moving. I think so

4350
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Speaker 1: that gap of twenty eight thirty.

4351
03:11:59,560 --> 03:12:03,000
Speaker 2: Days needed crazy not needed. Yeah, we got a roll.

4352
03:12:03,280 --> 03:12:08,160
Speaker 1: Yeah on the eighteen playoff. No go above twelve.

4353
03:12:09,000 --> 03:12:11,120
Speaker 2: I'd leave it, dude, I'd go smaller than twelve, but

4354
03:12:11,200 --> 03:12:13,520
Speaker 2: I'm keeping it at twelve. I think they've just just

4355
03:12:13,640 --> 03:12:16,160
Speaker 2: poison pilled you. They just put an Overton window kind

4356
03:12:16,200 --> 03:12:18,840
Speaker 2: of mechanism out there. It's like if I'm telling you, well,

4357
03:12:18,840 --> 03:12:21,119
Speaker 2: we're going to vacation, and you say where we going

4358
03:12:21,160 --> 03:12:22,800
Speaker 2: and say we're going to Saint Louis for an entire week.

4359
03:12:22,879 --> 03:12:24,720
Speaker 2: You say, why can't we go to the Caribbean, Like

4360
03:12:24,760 --> 03:12:26,120
Speaker 2: why can't we go to a beach somewhere? And I say,

4361
03:12:26,120 --> 03:12:28,680
Speaker 2: all right, we're going to Russia. You say no, no, no,

4362
03:12:28,959 --> 03:12:31,080
Speaker 2: And I said, all right, Saint Louis. Then okay, Well,

4363
03:12:31,080 --> 03:12:32,760
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you're fine with Saint Louis. The

4364
03:12:32,840 --> 03:12:35,640
Speaker 2: Big ten wants the sixteen team playoff. Not many people

4365
03:12:35,680 --> 03:12:38,680
Speaker 2: want it, so their marketing and PR folks just said

4366
03:12:38,760 --> 03:12:41,600
Speaker 2: they're stupid. Just flow a twenty eighteen proposal out there.

4367
03:12:41,760 --> 03:12:44,000
Speaker 2: They'll hate that so much all of a sudden, sixteen

4368
03:12:44,000 --> 03:12:47,480
Speaker 2: won't sound so bad. That's all they're doing. That's all

4369
03:12:47,520 --> 03:12:49,200
Speaker 2: they're doing, and.

4370
03:12:49,320 --> 03:12:52,080
Speaker 1: So that ball illuminati type shit. I don't like the

4371
03:12:52,160 --> 03:12:52,760
Speaker 1: bye weeks.

4372
03:12:53,760 --> 03:12:54,800
Speaker 2: I actually don't either.

4373
03:12:54,920 --> 03:12:56,240
Speaker 1: I don't like the bibus, so I feel like it

4374
03:12:56,280 --> 03:12:59,279
Speaker 1: would be sixteen or if you go below twelve eight.

4375
03:12:59,600 --> 03:13:02,440
Speaker 2: I don't like haven at larges. If you're gonna have

4376
03:13:02,520 --> 03:13:05,840
Speaker 2: the play in Saturday, like the whole conference playing Saturday.

4377
03:13:06,200 --> 03:13:08,200
Speaker 2: If you're having those playing games, I love them. I

4378
03:13:08,240 --> 03:13:10,160
Speaker 2: don't want a safety net under it. I don't want

4379
03:13:10,160 --> 03:13:12,039
Speaker 2: you to be a four seed who loses but knows

4380
03:13:12,080 --> 03:13:13,440
Speaker 2: oh I can get in anyway. Like if you're gonna

4381
03:13:13,440 --> 03:13:15,600
Speaker 2: have play in games at the conference level, they need

4382
03:13:15,680 --> 03:13:18,720
Speaker 2: to really be do or die playing games. So however

4383
03:13:18,840 --> 03:13:20,600
Speaker 2: we can figure it, I hope it's configured that way.

4384
03:13:21,160 --> 03:13:25,119
Speaker 2: We you, yes, the commissioner with with voters helping.

4385
03:13:24,920 --> 03:13:26,440
Speaker 1: You, We'll help you out. We'll be we'll be.

4386
03:13:27,640 --> 03:13:30,119
Speaker 2: I didn't say every vote counts the same super vote,

4387
03:13:30,400 --> 03:13:31,039
Speaker 2: super delegates.

4388
03:13:31,080 --> 03:13:34,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, because we do, we do have this.

4389
03:13:35,480 --> 03:13:35,959
Speaker 2: That's right.

4390
03:13:36,120 --> 03:13:38,360
Speaker 3: We're part of the supremacy. I don't know if that's

4391
03:13:38,360 --> 03:13:39,320
Speaker 3: safe to say at this point.

4392
03:13:39,520 --> 03:13:39,760
Speaker 7: It's not.

4393
03:13:39,959 --> 03:13:41,879
Speaker 3: You can't just three white guys up here. We are

4394
03:13:41,920 --> 03:13:45,720
Speaker 3: part of the supremacy. Josh Pate. It's gonna be a

4395
03:13:45,760 --> 03:13:47,080
Speaker 3: hell of a year, a hell of a season. Maybe

4396
03:13:47,280 --> 03:13:49,800
Speaker 3: coming on Busting with the Boys. Pleasure the Locker Room

4397
03:13:49,879 --> 03:13:53,800
Speaker 3: drops Wednesday night. Subscribe big hugs, tiny kisses, we love you,

4398
03:13:54,000 --> 03:13:54,400
Speaker 3: I love you.

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Speaker 2: Photo.

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03:13:57,320 --> 03:13:59,959
Speaker 3: Hell of an episode.

4401
03:14:00,120 --> 03:14:01,440
Speaker 2: It's good. How long have we gone?

4402
03:14:01,879 --> 03:14:02,560
Speaker 1: Like? Two hours, two