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Speaker 1: We love this guy. Mark Schlayrit Stink is with us here.

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Speaker 1: He has a new podcast, Stinking Truth. Of course, it's

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Speaker 1: Stinking Truth. He does the morning shows in Denver. He's

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Speaker 1: doing games for Fox.

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Speaker 2: Stop fucking working so much, layor do you do it?

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Speaker 3: Listen, man, I gotta I gotta support my family's spending habits.

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Speaker 4: So uh, I gotta keep working. We all do.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 5: Have the grandkids figured it out yet? Where to get

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Speaker 5: their money from?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, oh yeah?

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 3: Listen, man, this is honestly good. I don't know what

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Speaker 3: this says about me. Probably it's not good. But we

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Speaker 3: were in Tampa and my wife wanted to take Christmas pictures.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: Now we just do it with the grandkids.

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Speaker 3: And my grandkids are now, you know, my oldest granddaughter's twelve.

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Speaker 3: Then I've got a nine, and then I got a four,

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Speaker 3: and they're like, they don't want to do it. It's

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Speaker 3: like my son, he doesn't want to be taking he

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Speaker 3: wants no part of pictures. And so they're complaining and

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Speaker 3: pissing and moaning, and I'm trying to do some work,

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm trying to study and prep my game.

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Speaker 4: I had New England Cleveland last week.

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Speaker 3: So I'm in the kitchen trying to prep my game

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Speaker 3: and they're, like I said, they're pissing and moaning. They

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Speaker 3: don't want to go, and my wife is asking, begging,

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Speaker 3: and I just open up my wall and go.

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Speaker 4: You go.

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Speaker 3: Got if you go and do it without complaining, each

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Speaker 3: of you gets a hundred bucks. And I pulled out

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Speaker 3: three hundred dollars. I go, here you go, here you go,

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Speaker 3: here you go, and there I get wait to go

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Speaker 3: take these pictures. They couldn't wait. So yeah, that's that.

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Speaker 3: That's why I'm working still. Yeah, they figured it out.

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Speaker 3: They know exactly what's going on.

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Speaker 2: I mean, money solves problems.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, there you are.

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Speaker 1: Mark, I'm wondering, did you think bo Nicks would be

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Speaker 1: this good coming out of college?

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Speaker 4: Listen. I thought he was one of my favorite guys.

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Speaker 3: And I knew the Broncos were going to take a quarterback,

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Speaker 3: so I studied them all coming out. You know, Drake May,

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Speaker 3: I studied Jayden Daniels, I studied h you know, Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 3: but Bo Knicks. Bo Knicks was one of my top

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Speaker 3: two guys that I liked. I liked Jayden a lot

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Speaker 3: and I liked Bo a lot, and you know, and

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Speaker 3: and and Caleb was really iffy for me. I didn't

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Speaker 3: I didn't really care for him as much. And then

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Speaker 3: and then Drake was one of those guys that was

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Speaker 3: intriguing but coming out of college I wasn't quite sure.

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Speaker 3: But Bo didn't take sacks through the ball on time,

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Speaker 3: with accuracy underneath, did a lot of things that I

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Speaker 3: really liked about him coming out.

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Speaker 4: And and it's been a you know, I thought he

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Speaker 4: was gonna be good. I didn't think he'd be this good,

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Speaker 4: but and this early, but he's been pretty good.

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Speaker 3: And the crazy thing he's got very much like Drake May,

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Speaker 3: He's still got so much room to grow. And you know,

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Speaker 3: and I said this on the broadcast as doing New

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Speaker 3: England Cleveland on Sunday. I was like, like, hey, it's

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Speaker 3: time to stop calling Drake May a good young quarterback

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Speaker 3: and just calling one of the best quarterbacks. He's just

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Speaker 3: he's just playing at that level right now. So it's

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Speaker 3: been fun to watch the progression of two young guys

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Speaker 3: really kind of getting it early in their careers.

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Speaker 1: You know, what Super Bowl teams look like, he won

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Speaker 1: three of them. Does this Bronco team. To you, Mark,

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Speaker 1: does it look like a super Bowl ready team?

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't go. I wouldn't go quite that far.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, last week against Dallas, like Dallas's

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Speaker 3: defense is awful, and you know, I mean Jerry Jones

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Speaker 3: was talking about you know, Micah Parsons and hey, he

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Speaker 3: wouldn't defend the run. They're the worst run defend team

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Speaker 3: in football. Like how that Kenny Clark thing work out

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Speaker 3: for you guys? They're awful. And so you know, the

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Speaker 3: Broncos if you looked at they're going into the game

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Speaker 3: against the Cowboys, if you looked at their last twelve quarters,

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Speaker 3: they played two good quarters of offense of their last

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Speaker 3: twelve quarters going into that game. So they were got

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Speaker 3: awful for that for ten of twelve quarters.

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Speaker 4: Last week not and last week they were really good.

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Speaker 4: But you know, and listen, man, everybody plays professional football.

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Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 3: But the Dallas Cowboys are not a very good defense.

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Speaker 3: So I think you can great gain confidence off of that.

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Speaker 3: I think you can gain a lot of stuff off

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Speaker 3: of that. But for me, I still look at it like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: do it against a really good team. You do it

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Speaker 3: in Houston this weekend. Who's got an outstanding defense, then

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Speaker 3: we can have a different conversation.

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Speaker 2: Are you certain the Jets are playing professional football?

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Speaker 3: Listen, mant comeback mad a great comeback last week. So

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Speaker 3: but no, it's still it's it's debatable right now, what

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Speaker 3: do you what are you john It's the debatable by

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Speaker 3: the way, Woody, come on, Woody Johnson, like, dude, Like

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Speaker 3: I don't even want to get into Woody, uh but anyhow.

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Speaker 2: Now get into it. I want to hear what your

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Speaker 2: thoughts onbody.

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Speaker 4: You come out and lamb based like lamb based.

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Speaker 3: You're not even around practice, You're not even there, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: I know he shows up.

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Speaker 3: Getting his helicopter occasionally, but I was in Florham Park

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Speaker 3: the other day and he was nowhere to be found.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, Taylor, Mark, you.

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Speaker 6: Mentioned awful before, and on the topic of awful, those

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Speaker 6: Steelers throwback uniforms.

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Speaker 4: How many people do you think.

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Speaker 6: Are going to Pittsburgh games buying those jerseys?

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Speaker 2: So bad?

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Speaker 3: Like that's seriously is the Isn't that the principle of

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Speaker 3: throwback jerseys is to actually have people buy them?

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Speaker 4: Like there's nobody like that.

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Speaker 3: As soon as I saw that jersey, it reminded me

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Speaker 3: of changing diapers when I was a young father, and

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Speaker 3: it just was no mustard. It was just mustard baby

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Speaker 3: shit like that was that's the look you're going for.

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Speaker 3: You conquered it, You nailed it. I can't imagine anybody going. Man,

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Speaker 3: I gotta get me one of them throwbacks. Meanwhile, in Denver, man,

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Speaker 3: they had the old Denver throwback jerseys.

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Speaker 4: And molments and it was awesome and I loved it.

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Speaker 3: And then Pittsburgh, what, just because you wore that in

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Speaker 3: nineteen thirty nine doesn't mean that's the one you've got

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Speaker 3: to bring back, Like I just it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Don't throw back so far?

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, right, yes, you would be okay if

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Speaker 1: Denver stayed in those uniforms, right.

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Speaker 4: I would love it. I would love it. I love

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Speaker 4: those old years. I love the D on the helmet

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Speaker 3: You know it just is. I love those uniforms. I

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Speaker 3: that their primary and have whatever it is they switched to.

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Speaker 3: You know, and I was here for that switch in

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Speaker 3: nineteen ninety seven. That could you can go back to

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Speaker 3: being that your throwback uniform?

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Speaker 1: Because no one pays attention to the offensive line. I

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Speaker 1: say this all the time. We have no idea what

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Speaker 1: we're watching on Sunday and how important the offensive line

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Speaker 4: That's that's a great question. I mean, I think Detroit

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Speaker 4: is outstanding. What they do is outstanding. I think, you know,

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Speaker 4: the Philadelphia Eagles went healthy. They're an outstanding group.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think what what probably doesn't get mentioned enough.

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Speaker 3: You know, we always look at sacks and and so

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Speaker 3: I've got Jacksonville. So I looked at the last I

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Speaker 3: in London, and I'm digging through the film the rest

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Speaker 3: of the day and tomorrow. But the first three sacks

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Speaker 3: giving up in the game against the Rams, none of

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Speaker 3: them would be credited to the offensive line, not one.

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Speaker 3: They'd be credited to the quarterback who takes a three

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Speaker 3: ends up taking a sack. One he rolls out of

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Speaker 3: offensive line for him, I would thunder punch him on

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Speaker 3: top of the head, like you just cost us a sack,

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Speaker 3: and we're gonna be the ones that everybody says this

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Speaker 3: offensive line sucks.

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Speaker 4: Throw the freaking ball away.

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Speaker 3: No, Instead of instead of being second down and ten

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Speaker 3: So you've made our jobs that much harder and you've

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Speaker 3: credited us with a sack. And the third sack in

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Speaker 3: that first half was purely a coverage sack, like nobody

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Speaker 3: could get open and so know, but we tend to

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Speaker 3: look at that and go, wow, this offensive line really sucks.

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Speaker 3: The other thing about that is your play caller. You

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Speaker 3: want to talk about sax Sas to me, in the

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Speaker 3: NFL have become more of a quarterback driven statistic and

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Speaker 3: a and a play caller statistic.

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Speaker 4: And so if you give.

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Speaker 3: Up a lot of sacks as an offense, a lot

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Speaker 3: of it has to do with the guy call in plays.

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Speaker 3: You have got to give me the tools to be successful.

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Speaker 3: When I coach, or when I talk to or when

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Speaker 3: I consult with teams, I always talk about taking the

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Speaker 3: how do you give us the opportunity to be aggressive

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Speaker 3: and not to just sit there and get beat on?

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Speaker 3: And that has a lot of that has to do

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Speaker 3: with who the play caller is and and people people

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Speaker 3: don't understand that aspect of the game.

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Speaker 7: Uh, speaking of sacks, you called, you know, Patriots Browns.

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Speaker 7: This weekend, Miles Garrett had five sacks. But everybody feels

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Speaker 7: bad for him because they pulled him out at the

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Speaker 7: end of the game and he sat on the bench.

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Speaker 7: Do you feel bad for him considering he kind of

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Speaker 7: chose to stay there signing that big contract.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean I don't feel bad for him,

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Speaker 3: but I did get in with both of these joke.

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Speaker 4: So so wait a minute, now, you guys are gonna

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Speaker 3: So I'm sitting I'm sitting in this meeting with Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 3: and he's talking about listening to classical music. And he said, hey, listen, man,

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Speaker 3: you know I like to read about like famous warriors,

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Speaker 3: you know, and and you know, the art of war

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Speaker 3: and all this stuff. And I was like, it's really interesting.

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Speaker 3: Who's your favorite all time warrior? And he goes oh,

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Speaker 3: it's got to be Achilles and about Achilles, and go, oh, man,

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Speaker 3: I love the story about his twin brother, both D's.

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Speaker 3: And he looked at me because both thees. He goes, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you've never heard this off theseas twin brother. And he goes, no,

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Speaker 3: I've never heard of that. I go, oh, it's a

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Speaker 3: great story. So you know the mother dipped Achilles by

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Speaker 3: the by in the river sticks by his heels right,

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Speaker 4: Out as a baby.

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Speaker 3: And and she took his twin brother, Bovies, by the

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Speaker 3: So everybody knows about the story of the Achilles heel,

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Speaker 3: but very few know about Bovades nuts.

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Speaker 4: Miles Garret almost fell out of his chair. He was

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Speaker 4: Like the rest of the meeting, I didn't give a shit.

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Speaker 4: I don't care about anything else. This is right. This

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Speaker 3: I dropped the bovidese Nuts joke, and I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 2: You're a grand father, I mean, yeah, but what he's

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Speaker 4: Do, that's a that's a good one. That is a

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, what'd you make of his comments after

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Speaker 2: Bullshits.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you just went to the Pro Bowl on

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Speaker 3: And so here's a pace. This is an example of

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Speaker 4: So their double team, like every one of those sacks

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Speaker 3: Sack, but what they were doing was lining up the

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Speaker 4: So it wasn't.

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Speaker 3: Effectively a real double team. It was two guys blocking him,

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Speaker 3: instead of vicing him and having the tight end and

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Speaker 3: oh my god, this guy is incredible, and then he's

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Speaker 4: He's a really good player.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's gonna say, oh, he got his ass wolfed and

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Speaker 5: Mark.

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Speaker 2: What's a thunder punch to the head look like?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 1: Can you can you describe that? Like I've never heard

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you just come right over the top and you

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Speaker 3: just yit on the top of the head and it

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Speaker 3: It's like when you ever go fishing and you got

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Speaker 3: I mean you hit it on top of the head,

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Speaker 3: and you know he does that. That's what a thunder

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Speaker 6: Perfect, leading to my question, because Mark, when I do

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Speaker 6: how are you adjusting to a world making sixty plus

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's annoying.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is annoying. They got to do something about that, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: First off, First off, these guys don't do anything.

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Speaker 4: They're the kickers are campus levers. The rest of us.

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Speaker 3: Are busting our and your miserable, and your back hurts,

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Speaker 3: and these guys are playing Papa shot and then leaving

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Speaker 3: the McDonald's to get a burger while everybody else is

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Speaker 3: in a meeting. I like, I just my level of

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Speaker 3: disdain for punters and kickers. And at least in my day,

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Speaker 3: the deep snappers weren't specialists. You had to play another position,

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Speaker 3: You had to actually contribute to the team. Now they

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Speaker 3: don't touch those guys either they're not allowed to get

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Speaker 3: into practice, right, they're not old. We can't our precious

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Speaker 3: deep snapper. We can't have that guy actually do anything else.

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Speaker 3: So the three of those guys are like the three Amigos,

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Speaker 3: goofed around having punting contests there. I mean, it's it's

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Speaker 3: again the deep snappers, and like I said, they're like

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Speaker 3: we'll throw this ball so you can get closest to

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Speaker 3: you with the white hot intensity of a thousand sons.

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Speaker 4: I hate. I just like to eliminate kicking. Let's just

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Speaker 4: call it what it is. It's you know, let's get

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Speaker 4: rid of it and and we move.

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Speaker 2: On, put it on the balltail we get rid of kicking.

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Speaker 4: I'm with them. Go ahead, Mike.

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Speaker 7: This weekend, you've got Jaguars at the Raiders. And I've

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Speaker 7: asked this of a lot of people. I still haven't

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Speaker 7: gotten a good enough answer. Is Trevor Lawrence good?

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Speaker 4: No idea?

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Speaker 2: I have no idea right now?

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Speaker 4: No, No, he's not, and he's.

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Speaker 3: Got to Like he's got dude, there there are like

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Speaker 3: when you watch this that nobody sees this right. So

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get myself in trouble before I go

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Speaker 3: call this game and sit down with Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: And you'll be fine.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: One literally no one, yes, yeah, media.

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Speaker 4: Right here right uh yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, like the inconsistency is is like really, it's really troubling.

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Speaker 3: you're you're just watching, going are you sure you're right handed?

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Speaker 3: Like it's like, how did how did this happen? Like

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Speaker 3: how did you get to the point where this is

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Speaker 3: so out of kilter? And so that consistency thing is

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Speaker 3: what he is. You know, I know that he's working

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Speaker 3: on I've talked to him about it. I've talked to

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Speaker 3: Liam Cohen about it. He's big, he's physical, you know,

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Speaker 3: he's got all the tools in the world. It's just

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Speaker 3: a lack of overall consistency. And like I said, man,

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Speaker 3: he'll make He'll He'll have a series or two where

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Speaker 3: you're like, oh, he's got it, man, he figured it out.

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Speaker 3: And then I'll have a series where it's just like, dude,

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Speaker 3: you can't, Like that's just unacceptable. And so it's it's

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Speaker 3: that inconsistency. Now I'll give him, you know, I'll give

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Speaker 3: him a break with a bunch of different coordinators and

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Speaker 3: and so he's getting good coaching. It's time to kind

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Speaker 7: He's going up against Geno Smith, which reminds me of

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Speaker 7: one of my favorite Mark Schleat stories, which was you

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Speaker 7: and I were working the draft the year that Geno

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Speaker 7: and we had stopped talking about all the picks, and

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Speaker 7: for some reason, some lineman got picked, and Darry Noka,

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Speaker 7: this random lineman he was out of like Tulsa, and

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Speaker 7: he goes Mark, what do you see out of him?

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Speaker 5: And you had done absolutely zero study.

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Speaker 7: And all you did was look up at the highlights

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Speaker 7: of him they were showing on the big screen, and

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Speaker 7: he said, well, he had great punch the time he

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Speaker 7: played that Purple team, And I.

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Speaker 5: Think it was one of the best analysis I've ever heard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, hey man, his footwork coming off

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Speaker 3: the ball way he goes to the left, like I

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Speaker 3: like the first step, second step was a little too

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Speaker 3: big sometimes. And then when he gets into bass pro yeah,

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Speaker 3: against the Purple team, really shoots his hands and fires it.

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Speaker 4: Well, so you can give me a great player. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh, by the way, when you walk into your media,

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Speaker 2: it's such a good story.

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Speaker 1: And he has another good story, a Kevin Gosner story

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Speaker 1: the end of this because that's where we left off

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Speaker 1: with Stink two years ago.

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Speaker 5: When he joined us.

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Speaker 2: But you need to hear it. But you're in a

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Speaker 2: safe zone.

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Speaker 1: You can walk into Trevor Lawrence into that meeting before

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Speaker 1: the game and just say, hey man, you're fucking awesome.

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Speaker 4: Like, yeah, no thing, You'll be fine, good, good, good,

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Speaker 4: good good. I'm glad, I'm glad we've clarified that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you're you're safe.

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, it feels like he's treading he's going down

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Speaker 1: like the Trevor Lawrence kind of career career path where

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Speaker 1: sometimes I feel like he's great and other times I

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Speaker 1: feel like the guy can't play quarterback and all.

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on Caleb?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I've talked to I've talked to the

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Speaker 3: head coach. I've talked to Ben several times just about

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Speaker 3: kind of that process in that transition, and you know,

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Speaker 3: and I do think that he's getting better, but I

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Speaker 3: think that there have been so many bad habits that

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Speaker 3: have been created over time. Like as a college quarterback,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of things that you do that aren't

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Speaker 3: necessarily transferable to the NFL. And so one of the

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Speaker 3: reasons that I was very leary about Caleb Williams coming out,

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Speaker 3: and you know, I ended up digging a small sample size.

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Speaker 3: I dug pretty hard through three games. And that's kind

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Speaker 3: of how I do it because I'm just doing it

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Speaker 3: for local radio. I'm not covering the draft for any network,

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Speaker 3: So I'm just kind of digging through and like, what

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Speaker 3: wins in the National Football League is boring, That's what wins.

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Speaker 4: Like I'm sitting down with.

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting down with Byron Left, which when he was

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Speaker 3: offense coordinated with Tampa Bay and Tom Brady was playing,

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Speaker 3: And I said to him, what sets tom Brady apart

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Speaker 3: besides the devastatingly handsome you know us by the way

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Speaker 3: I met Tom Brady, I'm calling a game. I'm all

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Speaker 3: over the place, but Tom Brady and I'm walking down

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Speaker 3: the hallway. They have the whole thing shut off because

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Speaker 3: he just enters the stadium, right, So we're in the

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Speaker 3: corridor and I just leave it a meeting. So I

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Speaker 3: always going and talk to the camera guys about how

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Speaker 3: I see the games. So I'm walking down the hallway

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Speaker 3: one way and he's coming down solo the other way,

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Speaker 3: and we're going to meet in the middle of the

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Speaker 3: hallway at some point. And so we meet in the

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Speaker 3: middle of the hallway and we embrace like a big hug,

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Speaker 3: and we literally go cheek to cheek, like he puts

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Speaker 3: his cheek on my cheek. And that's when I was like,

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Speaker 3: forget the little Blue pill. I just figured out the

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Speaker 3: cure for ED because.

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Speaker 4: I was, I mean, I was like, I was, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I was ready to go that dude is beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations, thank you. I appreciate that. So I'm talking abouyron love,

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Speaker 3: which oh yeah. And I said, what makes him so

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Speaker 3: special other than the devastatingly handsome good looks? And he

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Speaker 3: says to me, he goes this, He goes, hey, man,

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Speaker 3: if we're running day one concept like curl flat and

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Speaker 3: the first reading that progression is the flat and it's

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Speaker 3: open for a five yard game. He takes it one

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Speaker 3: hundred out of one hundred times and puts us into

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Speaker 3: second down and five and it never varies. And the

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Speaker 3: problem with a lot of young quarterbacks is that's not

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Speaker 3: good enough. I want to make a sports center highlight.

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Speaker 3: So they scramble around and they hold on the ball

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Speaker 3: and you know, the next thing they know, the next thing,

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Speaker 3: you know, their second receiver or their third receivers way

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Speaker 3: better than the third corner of the other team, and

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Speaker 3: they throw one deep and it's a touchdown and it's

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Speaker 3: a sports center highlight and everybody gets.

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Speaker 4: Excited about it.

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Speaker 3: They're like, oh my god, that's amazing. Well, when you

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Speaker 3: get to the NFL, that's a sack, that's a strip

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Speaker 3: sack fumble, Like, you can't do that, and so it's

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Speaker 3: it's you know, it's like ni Kyler Murray in Arizona, Like,

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Speaker 3: do you want to be a professional quarterback or do

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Speaker 3: you want to be a professional highlight reel? Right, that's

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Speaker 3: the question you ask, right, And so scrambling around and

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Speaker 3: trying to make Sports Center highlights is cool, and you'll

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Speaker 3: make some plays and they'll be exciting, but you'll lose

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Speaker 3: the majority of your games that you play that way.

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Speaker 3: It's got to be on schedule. It's got to be

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Speaker 3: on time, and it's got to be boring. And that's

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Speaker 3: what wins in the NFL at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 2: Have you washed that cheek? Since Brady touched your cheek

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Speaker 2: with his cheek?

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Speaker 4: Have you washed it?

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Speaker 3: I didn't wash it for a very long time, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I did. I did eventually wash it. And but

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you what it was.

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Speaker 4: It was the moment.

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Speaker 3: It was the biggest thrill for me of my last

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Speaker 3: probably twelve years, and lights in general, that's.

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Speaker 4: The biggest thrill.

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Speaker 1: Before we get to the Gostler story, tell us about

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Speaker 1: the Stinking Truth podcast.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, man, three days, we can you find me

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Speaker 4: on YouTube?

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Speaker 3: Distinct The Truth podcast, just you know, talking telling stories

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Speaker 3: talking I do. I do well, actually right now I

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Speaker 3: do four week because I do a leftovers too, So

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Speaker 3: a leftovers podcast of the game I just called. So

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Speaker 3: I did a leftovers podcast it'll drop later on today

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Speaker 3: just about New England and about Cleveland and kind of

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Speaker 3: what I saw from that game and some of the

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Speaker 3: things that coaches told me that maybe we didn't get

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Speaker 3: into the broadcast. So that and then Monday, Wednesday, Friday,

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Speaker 3: well you know, break down the games on Monday, talk

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Speaker 3: about storylines on Wednesday, and uh and Friday kind of

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Speaker 3: break down the games coming up.

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Speaker 7: So two years ago we had John and before we

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Speaker 7: we just ran out of time, and I was telling

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Speaker 7: Stu about the Kevin Costner story. He never got it.

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Speaker 7: So here we are two years later. We've we've teased

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Speaker 7: it for two years.

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Speaker 2: And he tried to tell me the actual story and

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Speaker 2: I said, Mikey, don't tell.

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Speaker 5: Me come close to it. So yeah, so give us

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Speaker 5: the Kevin Costner story.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 3: So Kevin Costner gets done Winsday the academy or dancers

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Speaker 3: with wolves and he comes to a you know, he's

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Speaker 3: a big sports fan, so it comes to a Redskins

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00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: practice on a Friday and after practice, you know, he

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Speaker 3: says something to the team.

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Speaker 4: I was you know me, I wasn't listening whatever he said.

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Speaker 4: Who cares?

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Speaker 3: And I go back inside, take my stuff off, and myself,

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Lache and Ralph Tam we had a kind of

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Speaker 3: shoulders and arms routine on Friday that we did. So,

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Speaker 3: you know, you Monday, you do a workout to Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: you do a workout on Friday. So we're doing our

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Speaker 3: workout and Kevin Costner was rolling around talking to people

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Speaker 3: taking pictures.

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Speaker 4: So he comes down to the weight room.

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Speaker 3: We're all in there, and you know, I say something

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Speaker 3: kind of snarky.

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Speaker 4: I think it's funny.

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Speaker 3: I have this propensity to really piss off Hollywood elites

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Speaker 3: because I'll say something that I think it's funny and

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Speaker 3: they don't.

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Speaker 4: Necessarily share my sense of humor.

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00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 3: So I say something and he doesn't really respond, and

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00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: we take a picture and I think to myself, all right, whatever,

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Speaker 3: And so anyhow, I go upstairs after my workout and

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Speaker 3: strip down, grab my towel, and in the old Redskins facility,

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Speaker 3: the showers were down this hallway. It was probably a

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Speaker 3: you know, a ten foot wide hallway, and the showers

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Speaker 3: are probably twenty feet down outside the locker room. So

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Speaker 3: I walked down the showers to take a shower. I

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Speaker 3: shaved on Fridays, So I shaved. I come out of

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Speaker 3: the shower and I take a left to head back

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Speaker 3: to the locker room. And here comes Kevin Costner with

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Speaker 3: an entourage of people and the photographer walking out of

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Speaker 3: the locker room.

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Speaker 4: So we're gonna meet at about ten feet halfway down

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Speaker 4: this hallway.

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Speaker 3: And so as we're walking close and we get right

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Speaker 3: next to each other, I'm just gonna towel, That's.

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Speaker 4: All I'm in.

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Speaker 3: And I said, hey, Kevin, and he said yeah, and

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Speaker 3: I said, let me get one naked with you. And

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Speaker 3: I dropped my towel and put my arm around him

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Speaker 3: in just like this a hug.

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Speaker 8: And he sworms out just down the hallway and all

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Speaker 8: his people, all his people are looking at me, like

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Speaker 8: what what just happened?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: I'm just a big old standing there, butt ass naked,

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Speaker 3: you know, two hundred and ninety five pounds.

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Speaker 4: And I thought it was the funniest thing I've ever done.

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Speaker 3: I'm howling laughing as I'm standing there butt ass naked

597
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 3: and He's running down the hallway and his you know,

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Speaker 3: his handlers are following, like it's gonna be.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Kevin. He didn't violate you, did you know?

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Speaker 3: I was like, I just be bought back in the

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Speaker 3: locker room, the biggest grint on my face.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, that's the funniest thing that's ever happened. And

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Speaker 4: so anyhow, that was that. Yeah, that's my Kevin Coster story.

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Speaker 2: Right until the Miles Garrett story.

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Speaker 3: I mean seriously, yeah, yeah, I was good.

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Speaker 4: Hey I've got a gift.

607
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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, my gift is fizzing off famous people.

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Speaker 4: I'm good at it.

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Speaker 1: Uh The Stinking Truth Podcast wherever you get your podcasts

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Speaker 1: Denver Morning Show as well Fox Sports will be UH

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Speaker 1: at the Raiders Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: This weekend calling that game. He's doing a lot. He's

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Speaker 2: stayed away from the family. He's a smart fan.

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Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Stink We appreciate it. It was well worth a two

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Speaker 2: year wait to get that, Kevin colleg.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, tom My Pleasure. You guys be well, we'll

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Speaker 4: talk to you in another two years.

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Speaker 2: No one, we'll be listening still.

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Speaker 4: Don't worry about it, all right, Good