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Speaker 6: and Doug Summer's over kids sor right, put the lawn
Speaker 6: furniture away and start to pack up. And I know
Speaker 6: there's a big windstorm. It's really interesting. I don't know
Speaker 6: how much you're in the weather, Dan, because although you're
Speaker 6: a Midwesterner, you live in southern California obviously, and one
Speaker 6: of the things you forget and I like, I don't
Speaker 6: know if you ever seen the movie l a Story,
Speaker 6: old Steve Martin movie.
Speaker 3: Have not?
Speaker 6: Okay, Well, it's a it's not a it's not a
Speaker 6: new one. It's it's I think late eighties or early
Speaker 6: nineties or whatever. But the idea of Steve Martin is
Speaker 6: a he's a weather man in LA and you know,
Speaker 6: the weather is the same every day in LA, so
Speaker 6: he actually records his forecast and then anyway, the point
Speaker 6: is that I found, you know, of my life grown
Speaker 6: up in southern California and live in the last seven
Speaker 6: half years in southern California, like you never check the
Speaker 6: weather very rarely, whereas you're in the Midwest, you check
Speaker 6: or now and you check the weather right because it's
Speaker 6: all the time. But you know, yesterday morning, I got
Speaker 6: up here in north eastern Wisconsin and see a lot
Speaker 6: of wind, a lot of wind, and then when the
Speaker 6: wind died down, there was no humidity at all. It's perfect,
Speaker 6: like it's going to be seventy seven, seventy eight Chamber
Speaker 6: of Commerce day. But as you know from growing up
Speaker 6: here and people in the East Coast note, because the
Speaker 6: wind is going through the East Coast today, some pretty
Speaker 6: big windstorms. It's like when the humidity cuts, you're like, oh,
Speaker 6: that's it, Summer's over. Damn it, that's it.
Speaker 5: It's done.
Speaker 6: She's literally literally done. It's like the last day of
Speaker 6: the summer the fair when half the places are packed up,
Speaker 6: packed up shop to go home.
Speaker 2: It is without fail that the best week of summer
Speaker 2: will be the first week of school.
Speaker 7: Without fail. Absolutely it always happens like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it doesn't matter when the school like you start early,
Speaker 6: you start late, it doesn't matter. They're good back and like,
Speaker 6: oh man, I really want to be out the laker
Speaker 6: at the beach today. Anyway, we are here. Here's what's
Speaker 6: great about you and I filling in this week. And
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Speaker 6: Is that Look, everybody, Dan's a big college football fan.
Speaker 6: Not everybody who does national sports radio national television follows
Speaker 6: with great passion college sports. You and I do so,
Speaker 6: I guess without getting the trappings of you know, of
Speaker 6: recency bias. What is your biggest takeaway from the weekend?
Speaker 2: Biggest takeaway from the weekend is actually as a whole,
Speaker 2: in watching week one with a twelve team playoff at stake,
Speaker 2: because looking at the losses, and I know LSU fans
Speaker 2: are not happy with what happened last night. Texas A
Speaker 2: and M fan same thing with what happened with Notre
Speaker 2: Dame and Clemson may have a whole other issue, but
Speaker 2: going on there. But still a lost to number one,
Speaker 2: a lost to number one Georgia is not going to
Speaker 2: hurt you, And that kept ringing in my years as
Speaker 2: I'm watching, you know, these scores go by and seeing
Speaker 2: how it plays out. Is I never felt September mattered
Speaker 2: Thug in previous seasons. I thought that there was enough
Speaker 2: time for a team if they were worthy to get
Speaker 2: into a twelve team playoff, And now I'm just like
Speaker 2: the first the first week. I mean, I think it's
Speaker 2: gonna help USC, it's gonna help Notre Dame to have
Speaker 2: those wins on their schedule that they got, but ultimately
Speaker 2: any loss did not hurt nearly as much as it
Speaker 2: would have in previous seasons.
Speaker 6: I agree with you, which is why I think and
Speaker 6: I understand these games were pre planned and they're all
Speaker 6: sold whatever, but it's also why we can do away
Speaker 6: with the neutral site. Last night in Vegas is still cool, right,
Speaker 6: I just I just feel like why are we having
Speaker 6: these games off campuses? They build these incredible facilities. The
Speaker 6: tailgating is what the sport is about. And now, like
Speaker 6: I think people used to the neutral site thing one
Speaker 6: because you have a better chance of winning. Now it
Speaker 6: doesn't actually matter. It doesn't matter like you can't lose
Speaker 6: a bunch of these games. But as you pointed out,
Speaker 6: it's a completely different calculation as to do I play
Speaker 6: this game or do I not play this game? You know,
Speaker 6: like I again, this is a very different situation, but
Speaker 6: I'm sure you can get the parallel. Like we make
Speaker 6: these decisions at at our level when we put together
Speaker 6: our schedule, right ours is different. You know, we we
Speaker 6: have to make some money, We make money through guarantee games,
Speaker 6: and then we want to be competitive. But it's it's
Speaker 6: do we want to challenge ourselves, but we also run
Speaker 6: the risk of hurting our confidence to where guys don't
Speaker 6: know how to win.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's really really hard for for those teams.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: It's like right now, if you're I guess if you're Clemson,
Speaker 6: you start kicking yourself why did we play this game?
Speaker 6: But as you point out, it doesn't really hurt you.
Speaker 6: It exposes you. It shows you where your weaknesses are
Speaker 6: because you're you're dumping into the d but it doesn't
Speaker 6: hurt you or end your season or come even close
Speaker 6: to ending your season the way it has for the
Speaker 6: last fifty years.
Speaker 2: It's funny as well because Alabama would do this where
Speaker 2: their neutral site games really weren't neutral. They'd play in Atlanta,
Speaker 2: they'd play in Dallas, and it was close enough for
Speaker 2: their fans to go. Not that Dallas and Tuscaloos are
Speaker 2: right next door, but you could make it, make a
Speaker 2: trip out of it. That's what was so surprising about,
Speaker 2: you know, hearing the reports of what the crowd was
Speaker 2: like in Las Vegas last night, was that LSU had
Speaker 2: a decided fan advantage.
Speaker 7: Maybe not entirely.
Speaker 2: Surprising when you could say, hey, let's go watch our
Speaker 2: football team in Vegas, but everybody in La gets out
Speaker 2: of town to go to Vegas on the weekend, except
Speaker 2: apparently for USC football. So like that, that's that was
Speaker 2: the most surprising thing about the actual neutral game aspect.
Speaker 2: You know, Georgia obviously is close to Atlanta. Clemson's a
Speaker 2: little bit further out, but there are you know, a
Speaker 2: driveaway from Atlanta.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's not a it's not that.
Speaker 6: And you're you're alumni based spring Clemson is in is
Speaker 6: in Charlotte and in Atlanta. Sure you know that's where
Speaker 6: you're and.
Speaker 2: You've seen some back and forth because they aren't home
Speaker 2: and homes, but sure LSU went Wisconsin, did one once
Speaker 2: where LSU played played them in Houston. Yeah, and then
Speaker 2: the return game was at Lambeau about you know, eight
Speaker 2: years ago or so. So there are unique things, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I'd much rather see Georgia at
Speaker 2: Clemson or Clemson at Georgia than them playing in the
Speaker 2: Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta.
Speaker 6: Doug Gottlieb Dan Byron for Dan den at Stan Patrick
Speaker 6: Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so I got it.
Speaker 6: I got a little energy behind this today. And it's
Speaker 6: not just because Paul Finebaum is like he does his thing,
Speaker 6: his sec thing and then the spreading rumors about other
Speaker 6: coaches which have no actual sense of reality. And what
Speaker 6: happened was that show has existed in I think Birmingham
Speaker 6: and throughout the South for twenty five years or whatever.
Speaker 6: It only got amplified when he joined ESPN. So now
Speaker 6: you're like, if you're not familiar with the Paul finebaumb thing.
Speaker 6: You're like, oh, but what he has been on this
Speaker 6: anti Lincoln Riley thing throughout the offseason. And what happens
Speaker 6: is when you say it on television, especially on ESPN,
Speaker 6: it starts to kind of creep into is this a fact?
Speaker 6: And I find it to be I chuckle a little bit,
Speaker 6: but I also it gets you angry because this is
Speaker 6: what we do now apparently. So here's my thinking with
Speaker 6: Lincoln Riley. Hey, I think Bob Stoops knows a little
Speaker 6: something about coaching, right, Like Bob Stoops, it was pretty
Speaker 6: much one of the There's Urban Meyer and Nick Saban
Speaker 6: and Bob Stoops, those are the three greatest coaches of
Speaker 6: the last quarter century. You okay with that one?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm fine if if I had a little bit, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm fine that I'm talking.
Speaker 6: You wanted what Bowden or you're doing.
Speaker 2: You know, you know, I know times are before Dabbo
Speaker 2: did have a good run, So I you know, i'd
Speaker 2: put when you're when you're winning two national championships, Uh,
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll, Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no, but those Okay, My my thing on
Speaker 6: the on the Stoops thing and granted, isn't the Big twelve,
Speaker 6: wasn't the SEC wasn't the pack, wasn't the big ten.
Speaker 6: But if you look at the consistency of dominance, it
Speaker 6: was amazing. Whether he's the best, the third best, the
Speaker 6: fifth best, whatever, he's among the only coach to this
Speaker 6: generation agreed he picked one guy to take over his program.
Speaker 6: One okay, and oh yeah, by the way, when he
Speaker 6: took it over, they were still predamn good. So he
Speaker 6: goes to USC and this is what people just don't understand,
Speaker 6: Like the idea of flipping a program sounds great, but
Speaker 6: remember you're trying to flip something and use the transfer portal.
Speaker 6: So is everyone else. This is very different than it
Speaker 6: ever used to be. And it was so what I thought,
Speaker 6: so run down from the inside out, not just in
Speaker 6: terms of the coaching but all the different things within
Speaker 6: the football program, but mostly like your offensive and defensive lines.
Speaker 6: And there just wasn't the ability to replenish because everybody,
Speaker 6: if you, I mean, look, that's the same thing that's
Speaker 6: happened to Colorado has happened to USC on a different scale,
Speaker 6: which is, hey, you can go and get better, good
Speaker 6: skill position players, but getting all those dudes up front.
Speaker 6: That's really really hard. It's super competitive and the guy
Speaker 6: you can't guys aren't good when you just bring them over.
Speaker 6: It's not like a wide receiver. You need linemen to
Speaker 6: play together and to grow together for a couple of years,
Speaker 6: and to have backups and have depth. That's the big thing. Anyway.
Speaker 6: My point is Lincoln Rilly didn't forget how to coach.
Speaker 6: It's an idiot. He was seen while at Oklahoma as
Speaker 6: one of the brightest minds in all of football. The Cowboys,
Speaker 6: the Chargers, the Rams, you name. He was mentioned to
Speaker 6: being a replacement to any of their coaches d during
Speaker 6: coaching searches. So you don't go from a guy who
Speaker 6: knows what he's doing and everybody in football knows you're doing,
Speaker 6: to all of a sudden he's forgotten what he's doing
Speaker 6: and you need to fire him. So last night to
Speaker 6: me wasn't usc is back. They're obviously going to get better,
Speaker 6: and I love the fact that he now has a
Speaker 6: lesser name quarterback, but just doing what he wants and
Speaker 6: you can see his coaching come out, and I think LSU, like, again,
Speaker 6: this is classic LSU. They've done this the last couple
Speaker 6: of years under Brian Kelly, and maybe now because the
Speaker 6: new setup, they can lose these games early and get
Speaker 6: into the college football playoff at where people think they're
Speaker 6: the best team by the end of the season. But
Speaker 6: my point is more just it drives you crazy when
Speaker 6: you have people who don't pay any attention to what's
Speaker 6: actually happening on the daily basis, don't know anything about
Speaker 6: a program. And we'll readily admit that a couple of
Speaker 6: years ago everyone thought Lincoln Riley was the brightest young
Speaker 6: coach in the country. So he wins the game and
Speaker 6: you just sit there and go like, yeah, it just
Speaker 6: it just sounds you don't get number as a coach
Speaker 6: two years after having an unbelievable season as a coach.
Speaker 2: I do think that there was a narrative that was
Speaker 2: fair around Lincoln Riley, though, for the fact that you
Speaker 2: could never deny their offenses, and you could never deny
Speaker 2: what they did. You just wondered if he even cared
Speaker 2: about defense. And you give up fifty four to Georgia
Speaker 2: in an overtime playoff game. You know, a few years
Speaker 2: back at the Rose Bowl, you give up forty five
Speaker 2: to Alabama and the next year in the Orange Bowl.
Speaker 2: They gave up sixty three in a Peach Bowl to
Speaker 2: LSU the year after that, so in these marquee games.
Speaker 2: He only lost ten games at Oklahoma. But when you're
Speaker 2: giving away that many points on defense, that's what I
Speaker 2: thought was different from last night.
Speaker 7: And I don't know if USC's back.
Speaker 2: We thought Colorado was back last year after the win
Speaker 2: against team you know, in the same point. But that's
Speaker 2: what I thought was different about last night's USC team
Speaker 2: is that maybe there was some resistance to previous Lincoln
Speaker 2: Riley squads where it felt like they didn't even care
Speaker 2: about defense as long as their offense was cooking and
Speaker 2: they were getting a Heisman Trophy winning quarterback. Maybe they
Speaker 2: will at the quarterback position this year as well, But
Speaker 2: for what they did defensively, it seemed like it didn't matter,
Speaker 2: But it mattered last night.
Speaker 6: Well I would. I'll meet you halfway because I'll say this,
Speaker 6: You're right. The defense was It felt like people would
Speaker 6: say this all the time about Mike D'Antoni when he
Speaker 6: was head coach in the NBA, but like he just
Speaker 6: didn't care.
Speaker 7: Good comparison, yeah.
Speaker 6: Right, just didn't care. My dad, my late father, coach
Speaker 6: with the text Winner at Long Beach State, right, text
Speaker 6: Winner is the architect of the triangle offense. And my
Speaker 6: dad would tell me that, like when they would do
Speaker 6: defensive drills, text would leave leave. He really didn't get
Speaker 6: He would leave, like where's coach going? Like he gone,
Speaker 6: he done, he done?
Speaker 2: You guys do the defense.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go and draw some stuff on the whiteboard. Anyway,
Speaker 6: So it's it's fair that that became his reputation. I
Speaker 6: would tell you in reality, First, I just the Alex
Speaker 6: Grinch thing was there was one year at Wazoo where
Speaker 6: they held things together and uh and and coaching with
Speaker 6: the pirate, and that's where Alex Crnch kind of got
Speaker 6: his and they were forever tied at the hip and
Speaker 6: it was one of those he took him with him
Speaker 6: from Oklahoma. But you know, I don't know if that
Speaker 6: was it was a great fit.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 6: The other part to it is it's really really hard
Speaker 6: to replenish the defense. Okay, And last year during the
Speaker 6: Pac twelve, and like the one thing about the Pac
Speaker 6: twel last year, like do you understand how good those
Speaker 6: quarterbacks were, right, and how good those teams? I like
Speaker 6: the PAC twelve last year was legit. I know the
Speaker 6: league came apart at the seams, okay, but the PAC
Speaker 6: twelve was like did you see cam Woord?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 6: Like Camboard was he was in the he was he
Speaker 6: been mentioned by most national people because he was like
Speaker 6: the fourth or fifth best quarterback in the PAC twelve
Speaker 6: last year, right, because all those other dudes were like
Speaker 6: Heisman Trophy guys. Anyway, part of it was the PAC
Speaker 6: twelve was amazing last year. Part of it was I
Speaker 6: don't think Grinch is particularly good. Not only think most people,
Speaker 6: I think most people think that. And then part of
Speaker 6: it is like, look what you learn here? Is there
Speaker 6: there is, in fact a salary cap. Not everybody has
Speaker 6: the same salary cap, but there is. The spigot does
Speaker 6: run dry at some point in time. And if you just,
Speaker 6: if you're just honest with yourself about what they did.
Speaker 6: It's not just the attention you pay dan to your defense.
Speaker 6: It's the resources, the money you pay to your defense.
Speaker 6: That's really it. It's the money that you're gonna spend.
Speaker 6: You know, if you have ten million dollars to spend
Speaker 6: and you spend three or four on a quarterback, it's
Speaker 6: no different than the NFL, and that, okay, someplace is
Speaker 6: going to come up.
Speaker 7: Short.
Speaker 6: There's all different sorts of ways in which it's built, right.
Speaker 6: There are some teams that try and pay everybody a
Speaker 6: set amount, and then there's a couple of guys that
Speaker 6: private people can come in and pay. There's all different
Speaker 6: shorts of ways to do it. But by my estimation,
Speaker 6: what happened at SC, and it happened at Colorado, it
Speaker 6: happened to some many schools is they spend so much
Speaker 6: money on a couple of guys that they end up
Speaker 6: having way too many holes in the team, whereas you
Speaker 6: look at teams that don't do it that way. I
Speaker 6: think that's what's happened at Notre Dame. I think that's
Speaker 6: what's happened. I believe that's what's happened at Oklahoma State,
Speaker 6: is that they at different levels, have they spend their
Speaker 6: money on getting as many good players to keep them
Speaker 6: in the program as possible and grow from within.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and let's be honest too, when you're talking about
Speaker 2: college football and you're talking about getting that player, you
Speaker 2: can change an entire team with one player on offense.
Speaker 2: You are not going to do that on defense. You
Speaker 2: cannot change a team just because of one player on defense.
Speaker 2: With the offense, yeah, you can. You could do it
Speaker 2: at the quarterback position. You can kind of do it
Speaker 2: at the running back position. You can maybe do it
Speaker 2: at the wide receiver position. But you cannot do that
Speaker 2: on defense.
Speaker 6: You're I mean Travis Hunter, right, Travis Hunter makes your
Speaker 6: point completely. Travis Hunter might be the best defensive player
Speaker 6: in college football and they have a terrible defense at
Speaker 6: Colorado despite the fact they're one to Oh He's Dan
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Speaker 6: don't know if USC's back, but it was definitely much better.
Speaker 6: Got a part for the course with Lsu. I would
Speaker 6: say part for the course with Texas A and m
Speaker 6: right like they just find a way. That place appears
Speaker 6: to be so intimidating, Dan, and yet I you know, look,
Speaker 6: I I be honestly, I didn't pay a ton of
Speaker 6: attention to TEXA and M football until they joined the
Speaker 6: Big Twelve. But if you look at their track record
Speaker 6: in the Big Twelve, it's similar to what they've been
Speaker 6: the SEC, which is they actually lose a lot of
Speaker 6: big home games. Even when Johnny Manzel was there, they
Speaker 6: like lose big people for people forget that they lost
Speaker 6: at home. I think twice that year he won the
Speaker 6: Heisman Trophy. It's just it's weird that that that should be.
Speaker 6: If you ever been to Kyle Field, it's an incredible
Speaker 6: place for that cult. I mean, that fan base to
Speaker 6: UH to go to. But they always lose at home
Speaker 6: in a big game. That's just what they do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the the Johnny football win in Tuscaloosa. It
Speaker 2: was the one that that made you know the start
Speaker 2: of the story if you will. But yeah, that was
Speaker 2: a road game. I've never been and I've heard I've
Speaker 2: heard great things, Doug. I have heard great things about
Speaker 2: going to a game in College Station.
Speaker 6: It's it's it's it's it's legit, lily cool. But it's
Speaker 6: just one of those places you're like, this is a
Speaker 6: different place. It it I don't think techs A and
Speaker 6: M is cool. I'm although they're trying to make it cool,
Speaker 6: which was that was the big thing when Kevin smlan
Speaker 6: was there, Like, trying to make text A and M
Speaker 6: cool is a really hard thing to do, and he
Speaker 6: accomplished it for a while and then obviously the bottom
Speaker 6: fell out. Yeah, it's it's something, it's it's something, but
Speaker 6: it's there. It's incredible fans, incredible support, Like those people
Speaker 6: would do anything to win a National champs like anything,
Speaker 6: and they just can't figure it out. It's just it's
Speaker 6: like painful to watch. And then we had look, we
Speaker 6: had our first look at at at Oklahoma and the
Speaker 6: guy who he's like a one man tout service for
Speaker 6: all things Oklahoma. I kid because I love that's r J. Young,
Speaker 6: college football analysts for Fox Sports, host of the Number
Speaker 6: One Show podcast on Fox Sports covering all things college football. Okay,
Speaker 6: so Lincoln Riley leaves, you're an Oklahoma guy. You've been
Speaker 6: having a lot of fun at Lincoln Riley's lack of
Speaker 6: success at SC What do you think after watching last night?
Speaker 3: I think he gave me a reason to watch at
Speaker 3: see the rest of the year. In a different light.
Speaker 3: They won game that I didn't think they were going
Speaker 3: to win. Fullth off, you're trailing in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3: We've seen the Riley clock management, which is not unlike
Speaker 3: managing a broken clock at times, and he did it
Speaker 3: in the first half. We saw the misfield goal from
Speaker 3: the kicker, so I'm not really sure that that's where
Speaker 3: he wants to do it. And they hadn't been able
Speaker 3: to run the ball well at all night and what
Speaker 3: Mark's called games also saw. I think he's just not
Speaker 3: hiding his run fit and for whatever reason, decided to
Speaker 3: go cover a tight end of what's going out to
Speaker 3: a pattern and that's how they end up winning the game.
Speaker 3: But they also got a really cool schedule the rest
Speaker 3: of the way. A couple weeks from now they get
Speaker 3: Michigan and then of course they get Notre Dame at
Speaker 3: the end of the season, which could be to undefeated
Speaker 3: teams no, especially knowing what we know about Notre going
Speaker 3: what's left to the cupcakes schedule. If USC is legit,
Speaker 3: I'm fine with this, I am Doug. But we know
Speaker 3: that mikeoln rather think you win a big game in
Speaker 3: the regular season, that's not the question. The question is
Speaker 3: can you win a conference championship in the Big Ten?
Speaker 3: And can you win a single college football playoff game?
Speaker 7: Because he still has not a jay, how do you
Speaker 7: explain the other sideline.
Speaker 2: I know it's not all on Brian Kelly, but this
Speaker 2: is the fifth straight opener that LSU was lost. We
Speaker 2: know about Brian Kelly's post game. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's the high rade but a bit of a rant yesterday.
Speaker 2: But what is the reason why LSU cannot grab a
Speaker 2: Week one victory in college football?
Speaker 3: I think it's all over the map. It's the only
Speaker 3: common denominator has been Brian Kelly, right. Both of the
Speaker 3: coordinators from last year that lost to Florida State, they're gone.
Speaker 3: The guys you bought in are good like I like
Speaker 3: Joe Sloan and I don't really like me and Blake Baker.
Speaker 3: I will let you go with the defense beeing young
Speaker 3: like they're starting a true freshman at corner in PJ. Woodland,
Speaker 3: who really is going to be a star when he
Speaker 3: grows up. But he's got to go up with Weeks
Speaker 3: has got a lot there. That was big number forty
Speaker 3: for the folks that watched on television. I really think
Speaker 3: they got a great motor there, and they haven't been
Speaker 3: in that position before where they've had to finish. But
Speaker 3: when Brian Kelly is yelling and ranking about why do
Speaker 3: I can stand the same things over and over again?
Speaker 3: That's called coaching. And if you sign yourself repeating yourself,
Speaker 3: it's either because it hasn't gotten through where you haven't
Speaker 3: properly communicated. That's I think it's just him. I sincerely
Speaker 3: believe that it's not incoming upon the kids to.
Speaker 5: Get to know you.
Speaker 3: It is incumbent upon you to get to know the kids.
Speaker 3: So if you're yelling at them and they're not getting it,
Speaker 3: you need to stop yelling. It's yelling at them gets
Speaker 3: them in a position to win. Keep yelling. I really
Speaker 3: am going to put this back on Brian Kelly shakes well.
Speaker 6: We also don't know how it's been communicated if he's
Speaker 6: yelling there, because he taught it time and again in
Speaker 6: the offseason.
Speaker 7: To be fair.
Speaker 8: R J.
Speaker 6: Young joining us here the Number One podcast along with
Speaker 6: Dan Byram Doug Gotley. This is Dan Patrick Show, Fox
Speaker 6: Sports Radio. I know when we get to the NFL
Speaker 6: Draft in Green Bay and April, there's gonna be an
Speaker 6: overwhelming number of SEC players taken. But I also know
Speaker 6: that I just watched Florida lose at home. I watched
Speaker 6: an m lose at home. I watched LSU losing a
Speaker 6: neutral site. Granted in the Western United States, but it
Speaker 6: was at least sixty forty in terms of their fan base.
Speaker 6: And so we're in a and look, Georgia looked awesome
Speaker 6: and Bama looked awesome. So it's not the whole SEC, right,
Speaker 6: It's not the whole SEC. But the point is that
Speaker 6: r J, how do we calculate who's actually a really
Speaker 6: good team and really good conference and sort of disassociate
Speaker 6: from the NFL draft because I do think that we
Speaker 6: fall back on the well, the look at the SEC
Speaker 6: and all the guys are drafted, Yeah, but they lost
Speaker 6: games at home. In terms of the grand calculation, this
Speaker 6: is where it gets.
Speaker 3: Fun for me. I think the NFL draft makes it
Speaker 3: much simpler and easier to quantitatively qualify each one of
Speaker 3: these teams. Did you have more draft picks or not?
Speaker 3: Usually the thing that went to the National Championships, they're
Speaker 3: going to have more draft picks than everybody else. That's
Speaker 3: just what happens here. But as we're going through the season,
Speaker 3: one of the things I take a look at is
Speaker 3: how good do we think you are? And then did
Speaker 3: you meet that expectation. So a great example of from
Speaker 3: this weekend is Georgia dating content thirty four to three
Speaker 3: in Ohio State beating Acting fifty two to six, one
Speaker 3: ways more than the other one. Clinton is a very
Speaker 3: good football team who ran into a juggernaut that is Georgia,
Speaker 3: who decided to show us all why they have won
Speaker 3: two national championships the last three years and why they
Speaker 3: have gone forty three and forty five over the last
Speaker 3: three years and have won forty consective regular season games.
Speaker 3: And by the way, the losses are to Alabama because
Speaker 3: that's when Nick Stayden were coaching Alabama and me ain't
Speaker 3: coaching Alabama. Teammore three, Ohio State, who we all think
Speaker 3: is really really good and probably ends up playing Georgia
Speaker 3: in the National championship game, got off to a very
Speaker 3: close start against the Akrons Dips at home, not a
Speaker 3: neutral site, and the Acrons that have more in common
Speaker 3: with an SBS opponent than they do the Buck guys.
Speaker 3: And to add to that, the Acrons Dip went up
Speaker 3: three to zero on the buck guys to start the game.
Speaker 3: That's not supposed to happen either. So as was taking
Speaker 3: a look at who did what, I'm looking at Notre Dame,
Speaker 3: bit Texas, A and M on the road by ten Oregon,
Speaker 3: the Idaho at home by ten. And we're talking about
Speaker 3: Idaho VERSUS.
Speaker 5: A and M.
Speaker 3: And you know, like I know, those are league apart.
Speaker 3: And as far as opponents. You keep doing that all
Speaker 3: the way down the schedule. You keep doing that all
Speaker 3: the way down the top twenty five, and you begin
Speaker 3: to understand what makes some of these teams good apart
Speaker 3: from whom getting drafted.
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Speaker 2: on fire Colorado. Anything different RJ from what we had
Speaker 2: from a year ago after their win on Thursday night
Speaker 2: against North Dakota State, Or can we expect the same
Speaker 2: thing from the Buffaloes that we maybe.
Speaker 7: Saw last year.
Speaker 3: I gotta go with the second half of that, Dan,
Speaker 3: like my first thought with them, I hope though, right
Speaker 3: you know, like I really do. I love watching that
Speaker 3: football team play to do what standards is a superstar.
Speaker 3: We know that four five against North Akota State. There
Speaker 3: are only two quarterbacks in the last twenty years who
Speaker 3: have gone for four hundred yards and four TVs and
Speaker 3: back to back season openers. One of them is to
Speaker 3: Dorth Standards and the other one is Patrick Mahomes at
Speaker 3: Texas Sex. Do with that which you're gonna right, Travis Hunter.
Speaker 3: We know about Jimmy Horr Jr. Is an emerging star.
Speaker 3: But everywhere else I got questioned, they can't run the football,
Speaker 3: can't stop the run. Nebraska has shown that they can
Speaker 3: run the football two hundred yards on the ground from
Speaker 3: their running back against UTEP, and they got a guy
Speaker 3: that not only can send it in Dylan Rayola, but
Speaker 3: he's doing the one thing I have to brought the
Speaker 3: quarterbacks to do this year after what we saw last year.
Speaker 3: He can't turned the ball over again. And if they
Speaker 3: can continue to hold the ball, they're going to be
Speaker 3: able to lean on you and perhaps run that three
Speaker 3: three sets against Shdort Standards and make them force it
Speaker 3: down on the field and you can come away with
Speaker 3: a win. I think they traded out the guys that
Speaker 3: were similar to the one they had last year for
Speaker 3: this year when we're talking about Colorado, and I haven't
Speaker 3: seen a Geil yet. I haven't seen them come together
Speaker 3: and be greater than some of their parts. But again,
Speaker 3: you beat never ask good. You go to and oh,
Speaker 3: and we're back to what we were doing last year.
Speaker 3: It's deeper into the season when we should be having
Speaker 3: this conversation honestly about Colorado to get a defendative understanding
Speaker 3: of whether or not something has changed. But right now
Speaker 3: it looks a lot like it did last year.
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, yeah, and I think I think they could
Speaker 6: even be a little bit better. But winning at Nebraska,
Speaker 6: winning at Colorado State, that'll be hard. Even if the
Speaker 6: Big twelve isn't ash isn't as as difficult of a
Speaker 6: of a league. Okay, So what about Notre Dame? Like,
Speaker 6: at some point we got to sit there and go, hey,
Speaker 6: we've always been critical of Notre Dame's lack of speed,
Speaker 6: speed outside the numbers defensively outstanding, and speed at the
Speaker 6: running back position outstanding, good quarterback. How legitimate do you
Speaker 6: believe Notre Dame is.
Speaker 3: I think that they're in a position to play for
Speaker 3: national championship because the schedule sets up for them. Not
Speaker 3: only if you did support of State last year and
Speaker 3: they're going to get the benefit of the doubt if
Speaker 3: Riley Leonards stayed healthy. I also think that that that
Speaker 3: back end they got, they got a secondary like go
Speaker 3: like in Xavier Watson, Benjamin Morrison. They got one of
Speaker 3: the best safety corner team them's been all of football.
Speaker 3: Watch that seven interceptions last year. He already has one
Speaker 3: against A and M to open the season. You're also
Speaker 3: looking at the schedule and I got I tell you guys,
Speaker 3: between now and November nights, they don't really play anybody,
Speaker 3: not anybody that we care about. They get Florida State,
Speaker 3: who will see right how good they are by that time,
Speaker 3: and then they get SDE to end this thing. But
Speaker 3: it's also set up in a way that they're doing
Speaker 3: something that no other Power four team gets to do.
Speaker 3: All the other Power four teams got to play nine
Speaker 3: Power four opponents, Notre Dame to play eight. And not
Speaker 3: just that, Notre Dame does have played in a conference championship.
Speaker 3: So they're going to suck up one of those at
Speaker 3: large digs and get a playoff game at South. Since
Speaker 3: I don't like it, I think you should have to
Speaker 3: qualify for the college football Playoff. I haven't even played
Speaker 3: in a conference championship. But we treat Notre Dames like
Speaker 3: Formula one treats Ferrari. We just kind of like have
Speaker 3: them around and we let them do what they would
Speaker 3: like to because we really like seting the about a
Speaker 3: football field. But I think on the football field they're good.
Speaker 3: They just don't have an opportunity to really show it
Speaker 3: past this game. And I just really want to even
Speaker 3: be tested like Miami's got on the schedule. I would
Speaker 3: love to Notre Dame playing Miami this year. I would
Speaker 3: love to see just what cam Ward would be able
Speaker 3: to do against that secondary and get a good read
Speaker 3: on who they are. But as it stands right now,
Speaker 3: I got a hard time leading them out of the
Speaker 3: twelve sleet playoff pictures only because they look good enough
Speaker 3: against A and M and down the line, they don't
Speaker 3: have enough undefeated going on where they could probably lose
Speaker 3: a game and still make the College football Playoff.
Speaker 2: Did you do you like Fansville those Doctor Pepper commercials? R?
Speaker 1: Jay?
Speaker 7: Are you a fan of those?
Speaker 3: I am I enjoyed when you were getting to say,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, you know, I was man,
Speaker 3: it's Terry will Winton.
Speaker 7: That's the thing, the joke magnificent.
Speaker 2: I love them as well, and I haven't loved any
Speaker 2: of them more than I love the quin yours one
Speaker 2: this past weekend, which leads me to the Texas question.
Speaker 2: No doubt in the outcome against Colorado State, but there
Speaker 2: does seem to be a lot of cohesion in the
Speaker 2: quarterback hierarchy where arch Manning comes in, throw a touchdown
Speaker 2: pass and it's high fives all around, but there's no
Speaker 2: question on who is the starter.
Speaker 7: How is that the feeling that you get out of
Speaker 7: Austin with the long.
Speaker 3: Orange, It absolutely is, and it's I think Steve Sarkisian
Speaker 3: does not get enough credit for how he has handled
Speaker 3: having arch Manny on the depth chart and was showing
Speaker 3: us march many and showing us he can fit it.
Speaker 3: And then you talk about Quinn you were who's also
Speaker 3: handled this with such grace and respect and a plum
Speaker 3: like he's doing all the right things that I want
Speaker 3: a quarterback to do if they're playing at the University
Speaker 3: of Texas, And dear, I say, gonna get drafted in
Speaker 3: the first round by some franchise that needs them next year.
Speaker 3: He's showing a lot of maturi and at a place
Speaker 3: that it has been easy for him to go. Why
Speaker 3: aren't you still talking to me about arts Manning? That's
Speaker 3: the famous photo Last year they brought arch Manning to
Speaker 3: media days and when he was there all the quarters
Speaker 3: with his table, crowder Rat asked some questions, Quinn, you
Speaker 3: are just starting quarterback sitting damn good one overall in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, and the starting quarterback of chests is
Speaker 3: sitting there by himself, kind of looking over there with
Speaker 3: a ton of big mus book on his face, going okay,
Speaker 3: that's out good and not even that's how it was
Speaker 3: going to be, but just that's that's what it is
Speaker 3: to be at Texas. I also think that that that
Speaker 3: locker room wants to be behind Quinn, You or Shud.
Speaker 3: They've seen him do it and they know what they
Speaker 3: have in him. It's nice to have in our Conny,
Speaker 3: but you know why when you are just the number one,
Speaker 3: and I really like their chances going into an Arbic
Speaker 3: to go get a w.
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Speaker 6: Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio. So what do we call
Speaker 6: this anticipation Monday? Is that right?
Speaker 5: Dan Byer.
Speaker 2: That's what Jason Stewart is calling it am anticipation Monday.
Speaker 7: Why is that?
Speaker 6: Why is that because we have the NFL this weekend
Speaker 6: or this week?
Speaker 2: Yes, and I'll tell you this the background that I
Speaker 2: feel as important here as what you're going to hear
Speaker 2: a lot this week is greatest time of the year
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 7: Fall's gonna turn.
Speaker 6: Football spred December already, yes it is.
Speaker 2: It's John Ramos's birthday, by the way, Happy birthday, John.
Speaker 2: It's greatest time of the year. But then when March
Speaker 2: madness comes around, guess what, doug, greatest time of the year,
Speaker 2: greatest time of the year. And I feel that there
Speaker 2: are parallels with the NFL season starting on Thursday, and
Speaker 2: we've got college football in the rearview mirror like we
Speaker 2: are now on the verge. Is the anticipation the same
Speaker 2: equal to maybe less than a little bit more than
Speaker 2: what we would have on an NC doublea tournament week
Speaker 2: with the brackets out, But then you have to wait
Speaker 2: really till Thursday for the first round games to take
Speaker 2: place to actually have some ink on your bracket. And
Speaker 2: I feel that there are parallels to that because people
Speaker 2: are betting, people have their fantasy teams, they're excited, But
Speaker 2: what is more full of anticipation, the approachment of the
Speaker 2: approaching of the NFL season or the NCAA tournament week.
Speaker 7: That's where I think anticipation Monday comes from.
Speaker 6: I think I think the hype around, the hype around
Speaker 6: the NCAA tournament is greater than the actual the actual
Speaker 6: substance to it, if that makes any sense. Whereas like
Speaker 6: the NFL, Let's just be honest, everybody's paying attention on
Speaker 6: some level to the NFL. Whereas everybody says I mean think,
Speaker 6: I think everyone has a bracket, and everybody has a bracket.
Speaker 6: You come out, you you pretend like you know what
Speaker 6: you're talking about, but you don't really know. You're not
Speaker 6: super as invested, Whereas I feel like there's actual, more
Speaker 6: tangible investment in the NFL because you have your team,
Speaker 6: plus you have your fantasy team or two.
Speaker 7: I can understand that thinking.
Speaker 2: But the only reason why I think college basketball in
Speaker 2: that week is better is because of what Thursday and
Speaker 2: Friday provide us. Where Thursday, with the NFL, it's awesome
Speaker 2: to see Patrick Mahomes playing to the third quarter and
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson play a whole game and out of your
Speaker 2: starters pulled after a quarter or a half. That's all
Speaker 2: great and all, and your stats counting in your fantasy league,
Speaker 2: but it is just the one game on Thursday, and
Speaker 2: when you have that full day of Thursday where everyone
Speaker 2: is still alive with their bracket, there's nothing better. I
Speaker 2: absolutely and I think that I would side with spring
Speaker 2: being the greatest time of the year, with the NCAA Tournament,
Speaker 2: with opening Day.
Speaker 7: You know, I'm a Masters fan. I just think that.
Speaker 2: Football is so big that it's the variety of the
Speaker 2: spring that makes it the greatest sporting time of the year.
Speaker 6: Uh yeah. And I think also the spring New Hope.
Speaker 6: You know you've been in some places it starts to
Speaker 6: get warm. I think all of that. I look, I
Speaker 6: think the fall is better, but I think that's because
Speaker 6: maybe I'm I still love fall baseball.
Speaker 8: I just do.
Speaker 6: And I also think there's a newness to cull football.
Speaker 6: Even though like again stopping You've heard this before, LSU
Speaker 6: stupid stuff, dumb penalties right costs themselves the game, like
Speaker 6: could be any year with LSU with how they lost
Speaker 6: last night, Right, But watching LSU and USC great uniform matchup,
Speaker 6: watching Notre Dame and A and M it is the same, right,
Speaker 6: the traditional powers with a couple of exceptions, but the
Speaker 6: newness of the playoff, the newness of the leagues. Then
Speaker 6: you factor in the NFL stuff, which again it's going
Speaker 6: to be new this year that they're playing on a
Speaker 6: Friday night here right in Brazil, this Friday night, and
Speaker 6: you factor in baseball as well. I know that wasn't
Speaker 6: kind of part of the calculation. You're when you throw
Speaker 6: in Masters, I'll throw in baseball. I personally, I think
Speaker 6: this is the greatest time of year because I also
Speaker 6: like fall. I think the problem of fall is inevitably
Speaker 6: it's followed by winter, whereas spring is followed by summer,
Speaker 6: and that gives you more home.
Speaker 2: So this Monday, here are you looking ahead and forward
Speaker 2: more to chiefs Ravens on Thursday from Kansas City as
Speaker 2: opposed to say, a Monday of an NCAA tournament week.
Speaker 6: Wow, that's actually a great question. I think you might
Speaker 6: have won the argument in that one. I'm more excited
Speaker 6: about individual games in the NFL. I'm more in college basketball.
Speaker 6: I'm just excited that it's it's going to be some
Speaker 6: form of controlled chaos. So does that I You're right,
Speaker 6: I'm more I'd be more fired up about the NCAA tournament,
Speaker 6: but not about any one game, not about any one
Speaker 6: game or any one matchup or any one thing, because
Speaker 6: the thing with college basketball is like you just don't know,
Speaker 6: you don't who could have seen Oakland coming?
Speaker 2: And Jack Golkey, sure there is something about having your
Speaker 2: Final four team being down six in the first TV timeout,
Speaker 2: down eight to two and they had to happen to
Speaker 2: play in the first game that was your Cinderella because
Speaker 2: it was maybe a three to fourteen game, Like, wow,
Speaker 2: Yale is winning the Kale's up right now? I have
Speaker 2: you know Texas and Crocket war Oh Bustead, Jason Stewart.
Speaker 8: I think it speaks to the brilliance of the NFL
Speaker 8: that I am much more excited about the NFL starting
Speaker 8: on this Monday than I have ever been about college basketball.
Speaker 8: It's probably the juxtaposition of the NFL is as relevant
Speaker 8: and cool and edgy as ever, and college basketball has
Speaker 8: just kind of gone by the wayside. I know I'm
Speaker 8: talking to a college basketball coach on the air right now,
Speaker 8: but I'm just saying that the relevance in our space
Speaker 8: has decreased so considerably, and the NFL has only gotten
Speaker 8: more popular that we could talk about it twelve months
Speaker 8: out of the year and still be fired up on
Speaker 8: a Monday for the season.
Speaker 6: Look, I'll agree with you in general about college basketball.
Speaker 6: I think if you're honest about it, you're like, look,
Speaker 6: I mean we talked about Kaylen Clark all summer, right,
Speaker 6: she's a women's basketball player. Whereas you know, I think
Speaker 6: this year may change. We're talking about one one player
Speaker 6: at Duke a Ton. But you're right, like college bass
Speaker 6: Willsides's robot. I think there's a couple of things. Obviously,
Speaker 6: the depletion of the sport to the NBA, the proliferation
Speaker 6: of it on TV, and then of course the NFL
Speaker 6: is the easiest to gamble on, right, Like, just let's
Speaker 6: call it what it is. We just creative ways to
Speaker 6: gamble on it. Where you call fantasy football or straight
Speaker 6: up traditional game.
Speaker 7: Well, it's also.
Speaker 2: It's the sport that you bet on that you think
Speaker 2: you know the most, but you realize you don't know
Speaker 2: anything on right thalas football, you're college basketball, you're just
Speaker 2: making picks. But I do think Jason's looking at it
Speaker 2: from a person who is in sports media. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: I think, looking at it as a fan, there's nothing
Speaker 2: better in these halls at Fox Sports Radio than when
Speaker 2: an upset happens on Thursday in the NCAA tournament. And
Speaker 2: I think that anticipation of how your bracket turns out
Speaker 2: starts on the Monday of it. People will watch Ravens Chiefs,
Speaker 2: but people are fans of other teams that maybe don't
Speaker 2: play until Friday, Sunday or Monday. But it's the everybody
Speaker 2: is kind of in the same boat on Monday of
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament week talking about their final four teams into
Speaker 2: their bracket. You know, while their bracket shapes out. It's
Speaker 2: just it's different. It's it's actually better for me.
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