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It's the Dan Patrick Show, Fox 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:50.720 Sports Radio. iHeartRadio. App I'm Doug Golly, Dan byer Born 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:57.080 and Doug Summer's over kids sor right, put the lawn 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:00.760 furniture away and start to pack up. And I know 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:03.480 there's a big windstorm. It's really interesting. I don't know 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:07.560 how much you're in the weather, Dan, because although you're 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:12.200 a Midwesterner, you live in southern California obviously, and one 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:16.119 of the things you forget and I like, I don't 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:17.639 know if you ever seen the movie l a Story, 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:19.320 old Steve Martin movie. 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:19.600 Have not? 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:23.600 Okay, Well, it's a it's not a it's not a 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:27.200 new one. It's it's I think late eighties or early 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:29.320 nineties or whatever. But the idea of Steve Martin is 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:32.320 a he's a weather man in LA and you know, 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:34.360 the weather is the same every day in LA, so 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:39.960 he actually records his forecast and then anyway, the point 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:42.480 is that I found, you know, of my life grown 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.959 up in southern California and live in the last seven 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:48.320 half years in southern California, like you never check the 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:51.480 weather very rarely, whereas you're in the Midwest, you check 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:55.000 or now and you check the weather right because it's 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:59.120 all the time. But you know, yesterday morning, I got 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:03.360 up here in north eastern Wisconsin and see a lot 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:05.440 of wind, a lot of wind, and then when the 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:09.400 wind died down, there was no humidity at all. It's perfect, 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:12.280 like it's going to be seventy seven, seventy eight Chamber 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:15.360 of Commerce day. But as you know from growing up 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:17.760 here and people in the East Coast note, because the 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:19.919 wind is going through the East Coast today, some pretty 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:23.639 big windstorms. It's like when the humidity cuts, you're like, oh, 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:25.880 that's it, Summer's over. Damn it, that's it. 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:26.679 It's done. 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:29.519 She's literally literally done. It's like the last day of 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:32.080 the summer the fair when half the places are packed up, 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:33.280 packed up shop to go home. 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.240 It is without fail that the best week of summer 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:37.839 will be the first week of school. 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.760 Without fail. Absolutely it always happens like that. 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.079 Yeah, it doesn't matter when the school like you start early, 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.440 you start late, it doesn't matter. They're good back and like, 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.560 oh man, I really want to be out the laker 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:52.240 at the beach today. Anyway, we are here. Here's what's 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:54.000 great about you and I filling in this week. And 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:55.680 of course you can listen to the Doug Gottlieb showed 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.480 daily three to five Eastern twelve two Pacific on your 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.200 iHeartRadio app. You can also download it in podcast form 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:04.600 and we have an hour podcast only version of the show. 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:10.000 Is that Look, everybody, Dan's a big college football fan. 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:14.800 Not everybody who does national sports radio national television follows 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:19.280 with great passion college sports. You and I do so, 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:24.519 I guess without getting the trappings of you know, of 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:29.000 recency bias. What is your biggest takeaway from the weekend? 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:33.800 Biggest takeaway from the weekend is actually as a whole, 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:38.320 in watching week one with a twelve team playoff at stake, 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:43.000 because looking at the losses, and I know LSU fans 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.760 are not happy with what happened last night. Texas A 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.240 and M fan same thing with what happened with Notre 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:51.760 Dame and Clemson may have a whole other issue, but 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.840 going on there. But still a lost to number one, 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.480 a lost to number one Georgia is not going to 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:02.640 hurt you, And that kept ringing in my years as 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:06.720 I'm watching, you know, these scores go by and seeing 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:10.520 how it plays out. Is I never felt September mattered 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:13.360 Thug in previous seasons. I thought that there was enough 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:15.880 time for a team if they were worthy to get 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:18.760 into a twelve team playoff, And now I'm just like 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.640 the first the first week. I mean, I think it's 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:24.360 gonna help USC, it's gonna help Notre Dame to have 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:28.440 those wins on their schedule that they got, but ultimately 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:31.680 any loss did not hurt nearly as much as it 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:32.960 would have in previous seasons. 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.640 I agree with you, which is why I think and 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.120 I understand these games were pre planned and they're all 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:41.600 sold whatever, but it's also why we can do away 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:44.920 with the neutral site. Last night in Vegas is still cool, right, 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:49.039 I just I just feel like why are we having 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:53.840 these games off campuses? They build these incredible facilities. The 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:57.480 tailgating is what the sport is about. And now, like 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:01.320 I think people used to the neutral site thing one 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:03.080 because you have a better chance of winning. Now it 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:06.520 doesn't actually matter. It doesn't matter like you can't lose 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:09.040 a bunch of these games. But as you pointed out, 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:13.120 it's a completely different calculation as to do I play 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.960 this game or do I not play this game? You know, 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:20.640 like I again, this is a very different situation, but 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.360 I'm sure you can get the parallel. Like we make 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:27.080 these decisions at at our level when we put together 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:30.320 our schedule, right ours is different. You know, we we 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:32.760 have to make some money, We make money through guarantee games, 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.280 and then we want to be competitive. But it's it's 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.360 do we want to challenge ourselves, but we also run 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:40.920 the risk of hurting our confidence to where guys don't 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:41.480 know how to win. 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:41.960 Right. 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:45.280 Yeah, it's really really hard for for those teams. 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:46.240 You know. 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:50.760 It's like right now, if you're I guess if you're Clemson, 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.039 you start kicking yourself why did we play this game? 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:54.920 But as you point out, it doesn't really hurt you. 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:58.320 It exposes you. It shows you where your weaknesses are 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:01.320 because you're you're dumping into the d but it doesn't 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:03.920 hurt you or end your season or come even close 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:05.880 to ending your season the way it has for the 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:06.719 last fifty years. 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:11.240 It's funny as well because Alabama would do this where 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:15.920 their neutral site games really weren't neutral. They'd play in Atlanta, 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:19.400 they'd play in Dallas, and it was close enough for 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:21.720 their fans to go. Not that Dallas and Tuscaloos are 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:24.840 right next door, but you could make it, make a 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.479 trip out of it. That's what was so surprising about, 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:30.160 you know, hearing the reports of what the crowd was 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:33.720 like in Las Vegas last night, was that LSU had 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:35.400 a decided fan advantage. 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:37.200 Maybe not entirely. 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:38.880 Surprising when you could say, hey, let's go watch our 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:42.320 football team in Vegas, but everybody in La gets out 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:44.359 of town to go to Vegas on the weekend, except 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.440 apparently for USC football. So like that, that's that was 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:51.040 the most surprising thing about the actual neutral game aspect. 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:53.880 You know, Georgia obviously is close to Atlanta. Clemson's a 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:55.440 little bit further out, but there are you know, a 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:56.640 driveaway from Atlanta. 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:58.280 Yeah, yeah, it's not a it's not that. 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.920 And you're you're alumni based spring Clemson is in is 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:04.560 in Charlotte and in Atlanta. Sure you know that's where 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:05.240 you're and. 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:07.880 You've seen some back and forth because they aren't home 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:11.160 and homes, but sure LSU went Wisconsin, did one once 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:14.040 where LSU played played them in Houston. Yeah, and then 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.720 the return game was at Lambeau about you know, eight 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:20.000 years ago or so. So there are unique things, but yeah, 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:24.320 I agree with you. I'd much rather see Georgia at 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:27.320 Clemson or Clemson at Georgia than them playing in the 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:29.679 Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta. 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.239 Doug Gottlieb Dan Byron for Dan den at Stan Patrick 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:37.840 Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so I got it. 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:41.120 I got a little energy behind this today. And it's 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:44.320 not just because Paul Finebaum is like he does his thing, 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:48.320 his sec thing and then the spreading rumors about other 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:53.400 coaches which have no actual sense of reality. And what 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:57.600 happened was that show has existed in I think Birmingham 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:00.800 and throughout the South for twenty five years or whatever. 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.640 It only got amplified when he joined ESPN. So now 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:06.600 you're like, if you're not familiar with the Paul finebaumb thing. 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:10.840 You're like, oh, but what he has been on this 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:16.760 anti Lincoln Riley thing throughout the offseason. And what happens 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:20.000 is when you say it on television, especially on ESPN, 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:22.840 it starts to kind of creep into is this a fact? 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:27.880 And I find it to be I chuckle a little bit, 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:32.719 but I also it gets you angry because this is 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:36.439 what we do now apparently. So here's my thinking with 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:39.800 Lincoln Riley. Hey, I think Bob Stoops knows a little 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:44.600 something about coaching, right, Like Bob Stoops, it was pretty 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:49.480 much one of the There's Urban Meyer and Nick Saban 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:53.199 and Bob Stoops, those are the three greatest coaches of 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:55.559 the last quarter century. You okay with that one? 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:56.280 Yeah? 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:59.200 Yeah, I'm fine if if I had a little bit, yeah, 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:00.559 I'm fine that I'm talking. 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:02.240 You wanted what Bowden or you're doing. 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.880 You know, you know, I know times are before Dabbo 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:07.959 did have a good run, So I you know, i'd 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:12.720 put when you're when you're winning two national championships, Uh, 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:14.720 Pete Carroll, Yeah. 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:18.319 Yeah, yeah, no, but those Okay, My my thing on 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:21.400 the on the Stoops thing and granted, isn't the Big twelve, 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:23.960 wasn't the SEC wasn't the pack, wasn't the big ten. 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.760 But if you look at the consistency of dominance, it 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:31.880 was amazing. Whether he's the best, the third best, the 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:34.839 fifth best, whatever, he's among the only coach to this 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:38.240 generation agreed he picked one guy to take over his program. 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:42.240 One okay, and oh yeah, by the way, when he 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:45.400 took it over, they were still predamn good. So he 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:49.360 goes to USC and this is what people just don't understand, 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:53.520 Like the idea of flipping a program sounds great, but 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.640 remember you're trying to flip something and use the transfer portal. 0:09:56.920 --> 0:10:00.439 So is everyone else. This is very different than it 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:04.120 ever used to be. And it was so what I thought, 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.719 so run down from the inside out, not just in 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:08.840 terms of the coaching but all the different things within 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:12.800 the football program, but mostly like your offensive and defensive lines. 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:16.040 And there just wasn't the ability to replenish because everybody, 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:17.920 if you, I mean, look, that's the same thing that's 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:21.240 happened to Colorado has happened to USC on a different scale, 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:23.000 which is, hey, you can go and get better, good 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.320 skill position players, but getting all those dudes up front. 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:29.600 That's really really hard. It's super competitive and the guy 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:32.440 you can't guys aren't good when you just bring them over. 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.679 It's not like a wide receiver. You need linemen to 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.839 play together and to grow together for a couple of years, 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:42.720 and to have backups and have depth. That's the big thing. Anyway. 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:45.320 My point is Lincoln Rilly didn't forget how to coach. 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:51.559 It's an idiot. He was seen while at Oklahoma as 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:56.199 one of the brightest minds in all of football. The Cowboys, 0:10:56.679 --> 0:11:01.480 the Chargers, the Rams, you name. He was mentioned to 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:05.000 being a replacement to any of their coaches d during 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:07.880 coaching searches. So you don't go from a guy who 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.760 knows what he's doing and everybody in football knows you're doing, 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:13.640 to all of a sudden he's forgotten what he's doing 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.880 and you need to fire him. So last night to 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:21.000 me wasn't usc is back. They're obviously going to get better, 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:24.319 and I love the fact that he now has a 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:27.480 lesser name quarterback, but just doing what he wants and 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:32.040 you can see his coaching come out, and I think LSU, like, again, 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:34.680 this is classic LSU. They've done this the last couple 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:38.959 of years under Brian Kelly, and maybe now because the 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:42.360 new setup, they can lose these games early and get 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.320 into the college football playoff at where people think they're 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:48.199 the best team by the end of the season. But 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:53.080 my point is more just it drives you crazy when 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:56.680 you have people who don't pay any attention to what's 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.640 actually happening on the daily basis, don't know anything about 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.520 a program. And we'll readily admit that a couple of 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:05.520 years ago everyone thought Lincoln Riley was the brightest young 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:09.760 coach in the country. So he wins the game and 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:11.520 you just sit there and go like, yeah, it just 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:14.200 it just sounds you don't get number as a coach 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.560 two years after having an unbelievable season as a coach. 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:21.800 I do think that there was a narrative that was 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.439 fair around Lincoln Riley, though, for the fact that you 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.280 could never deny their offenses, and you could never deny 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.960 what they did. You just wondered if he even cared 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:33.439 about defense. And you give up fifty four to Georgia 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.640 in an overtime playoff game. You know, a few years 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:39.160 back at the Rose Bowl, you give up forty five 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:41.120 to Alabama and the next year in the Orange Bowl. 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:43.000 They gave up sixty three in a Peach Bowl to 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.920 LSU the year after that, so in these marquee games. 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.520 He only lost ten games at Oklahoma. But when you're 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.760 giving away that many points on defense, that's what I 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:53.240 thought was different from last night. 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:56.079 And I don't know if USC's back. 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.520 We thought Colorado was back last year after the win 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:03.480 against team you know, in the same point. But that's 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:06.560 what I thought was different about last night's USC team 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:09.960 is that maybe there was some resistance to previous Lincoln 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:12.520 Riley squads where it felt like they didn't even care 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:14.839 about defense as long as their offense was cooking and 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:18.400 they were getting a Heisman Trophy winning quarterback. Maybe they 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:20.800 will at the quarterback position this year as well, But 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:24.079 for what they did defensively, it seemed like it didn't matter, 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:25.240 But it mattered last night. 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:29.040 Well I would. I'll meet you halfway because I'll say this, 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:33.760 You're right. The defense was It felt like people would 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:35.640 say this all the time about Mike D'Antoni when he 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:37.599 was head coach in the NBA, but like he just 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:38.600 didn't care. 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:39.960 Good comparison, yeah. 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:43.720 Right, just didn't care. My dad, my late father, coach 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.120 with the text Winner at Long Beach State, right, text 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.400 Winner is the architect of the triangle offense. And my 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.079 dad would tell me that, like when they would do 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:57.160 defensive drills, text would leave leave. He really didn't get 0:13:57.320 --> 0:14:00.240 He would leave, like where's coach going? Like he gone, 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:01.439 he done, he done? 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:02.320 You guys do the defense. 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:04.920 I'm gonna go and draw some stuff on the whiteboard. Anyway, 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:09.439 So it's it's fair that that became his reputation. I 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.840 would tell you in reality, First, I just the Alex 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:16.360 Grinch thing was there was one year at Wazoo where 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:20.280 they held things together and uh and and coaching with 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.360 the pirate, and that's where Alex Crnch kind of got 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:25.400 his and they were forever tied at the hip and 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:27.000 it was one of those he took him with him 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:30.320 from Oklahoma. But you know, I don't know if that 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:31.680 was it was a great fit. 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:32.360 Okay. 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:36.040 The other part to it is it's really really hard 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:39.880 to replenish the defense. Okay, And last year during the 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:41.520 Pac twelve, and like the one thing about the Pac 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:43.520 twel last year, like do you understand how good those 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:47.560 quarterbacks were, right, and how good those teams? I like 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:51.560 the PAC twelve last year was legit. I know the 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.680 league came apart at the seams, okay, but the PAC 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:56.680 twelve was like did you see cam Woord? 0:14:57.520 --> 0:14:57.640 Yes? 0:14:57.960 --> 0:14:59.880 Like Camboard was he was in the he was he 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.280 been mentioned by most national people because he was like 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:05.640 the fourth or fifth best quarterback in the PAC twelve 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:07.960 last year, right, because all those other dudes were like 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.960 Heisman Trophy guys. Anyway, part of it was the PAC 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.080 twelve was amazing last year. Part of it was I 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.400 don't think Grinch is particularly good. Not only think most people, 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:18.120 I think most people think that. And then part of 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:22.000 it is like, look what you learn here? Is there 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:25.240 there is, in fact a salary cap. Not everybody has 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:28.800 the same salary cap, but there is. The spigot does 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:32.440 run dry at some point in time. And if you just, 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.400 if you're just honest with yourself about what they did. 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.400 It's not just the attention you pay dan to your defense. 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:42.560 It's the resources, the money you pay to your defense. 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:45.600 That's really it. It's the money that you're gonna spend. 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:48.720 You know, if you have ten million dollars to spend 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.280 and you spend three or four on a quarterback, it's 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:56.240 no different than the NFL, and that, okay, someplace is 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:57.440 going to come up. 0:15:58.920 --> 0:15:59.200 Short. 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:03.400 There's all different sorts of ways in which it's built, right. 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:05.680 There are some teams that try and pay everybody a 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.440 set amount, and then there's a couple of guys that 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.480 private people can come in and pay. There's all different 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:13.720 shorts of ways to do it. But by my estimation, 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:17.000 what happened at SC, and it happened at Colorado, it 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:19.320 happened to some many schools is they spend so much 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:22.040 money on a couple of guys that they end up 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.880 having way too many holes in the team, whereas you 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.640 look at teams that don't do it that way. I 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.680 think that's what's happened at Notre Dame. I think that's 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.520 what's happened. I believe that's what's happened at Oklahoma State, 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:38.360 is that they at different levels, have they spend their 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:41.520 money on getting as many good players to keep them 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:43.920 in the program as possible and grow from within. 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:46.080 Yeah, and let's be honest too, when you're talking about 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.920 college football and you're talking about getting that player, you 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:51.880 can change an entire team with one player on offense. 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.200 You are not going to do that on defense. You 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:57.840 cannot change a team just because of one player on defense. 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:01.120 With the offense, yeah, you can. You could do it 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.160 at the quarterback position. You can kind of do it 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:05.280 at the running back position. You can maybe do it 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:07.440 at the wide receiver position. But you cannot do that 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:08.080 on defense. 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.600 You're I mean Travis Hunter, right, Travis Hunter makes your 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.359 point completely. Travis Hunter might be the best defensive player 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.679 in college football and they have a terrible defense at 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:19.760 Colorado despite the fact they're one to Oh He's Dan 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.960 Byrom Doug Gottlieb. This hour is brought to you by 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:26.400 tire rack dot com, the official tire expert and retailer 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:28.440 of The Dan Patrick Show. 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You're on Fox Sports Radio 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:46.320 and the iHeartRadio app. Dan Byrom, Doug Gottlieb. So we 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:49.200 don't know if USC's back, but it was definitely much better. 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:53.840 Got a part for the course with Lsu. I would 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:57.119 say part for the course with Texas A and m 0:18:57.440 --> 0:19:01.320 right like they just find a way. That place appears 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:05.520 to be so intimidating, Dan, and yet I you know, look, 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:07.159 I I be honestly, I didn't pay a ton of 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:09.159 attention to TEXA and M football until they joined the 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:11.920 Big Twelve. But if you look at their track record 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.119 in the Big Twelve, it's similar to what they've been 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:16.960 the SEC, which is they actually lose a lot of 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.159 big home games. Even when Johnny Manzel was there, they 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:22.639 like lose big people for people forget that they lost 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:24.960 at home. I think twice that year he won the 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:29.080 Heisman Trophy. It's just it's weird that that that should be. 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:31.639 If you ever been to Kyle Field, it's an incredible 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.800 place for that cult. I mean, that fan base to 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:39.040 UH to go to. But they always lose at home 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:40.480 in a big game. That's just what they do. 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:44.399 Yeah, that's the the Johnny football win in Tuscaloosa. It 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:47.400 was the one that that made you know the start 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:49.080 of the story if you will. But yeah, that was 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:52.920 a road game. I've never been and I've heard I've 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:55.760 heard great things, Doug. I have heard great things about 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:57.080 going to a game in College Station. 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:02.400 It's it's it's it's it's legit, lily cool. But it's 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:04.639 just one of those places you're like, this is a 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:08.359 different place. It it I don't think techs A and 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:10.680 M is cool. I'm although they're trying to make it cool, 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:12.760 which was that was the big thing when Kevin smlan 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:14.720 was there, Like, trying to make text A and M 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:16.680 cool is a really hard thing to do, and he 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:19.600