WEBVTT - Executive Disorder: Hungary Election, DoorDash Stunt, Sam Altman’s Home Attacked 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:02.880 Alson media. 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:11.880 This is it could Happen here Executive Disorder, our weekly 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:14.840 newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world, 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:17.560 and what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis today. 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:20.680 I'm joined by James Stout, Na Wong and Robert Evans. 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:24.520 Yes, happy to be back once again stretching the definitions 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:25.800 of the word. 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:30.720 Here across time, space and the Internet. We have gathered 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:33.960 to discuss the news, and this episode we are covering 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:38.360 the week of April eighth to April sixteenth. James, you 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:41.040 want to start us off with some short news items. 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.559 Yep, I got quite a few this week, so lock in. 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:48.280 There have been two Turkish school shootings this week. One 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:52.960 killed ten people, the other wounded at least sixteen. Since then, 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:55.560 there have been one hundred and sixty two arrests for 0:00:55.840 --> 0:01:00.720 either sharing footage of the shooting or suggesting that similar 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:05.559 attacks might happen at other schools. One suspect, according to BBC, 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:12.280 made references to us mascular Elliott Roger on his WhatsApp profile, which, yep, 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:17.080 not great. Just yeah. I do find it somewhat frustrating 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:19.480 when people say this stuff only happened in the United States. 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:22.039 No, no, it doesn't. Now it is a fair point 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:25.319 to note that like most foreign mass shootings these days 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:30.000 are inspired and influenced by American mass shootings. We are 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:34.080 foundational to global shooter culture. But it ain't just us. 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:38.640 Yeah, it's not just us. Unfortunately, like culture is global 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:40.480 and this is part of that, we also have like 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:43.280 your regular terrorism, but this is not that. This is 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:50.040 part of that culture. Secondly, SOUTHCOM, the United States military 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:55.720 command responsible for, among other things, the Eastern Pacific as 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:59.880 it calls it, has announced four strikes on small boats 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:03.560 again this week, killing at least eleven people according to 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:07.000 the totals I added up from their announcements. It's probably 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:11.760 worth noting that this either suggests that they are not 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.560 striking drug boats, or that their strikes on drug boats 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:20.000 are so spectacically unsuccessful that they are still coming across 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:22.520 in such volumes as SOUTHCOM as having to kill people 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:24.679 at this continuing rate. 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:24.880 Right. 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:29.160 Either way, it doesn't point to a successful operation. Next, 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:34.160 the Nigerian military seems to have doubled down on striking Jili. 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:37.920 If people haven't been paying attention to this, Jilli is 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:40.760 a place where a market was bombed. They claim that 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:44.919 the market contained Boko Haram fighters. More than one hundred 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:46.840 people were killed in this strike. 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:49.200 And I want to mention what happened recently at Jili 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.079 to tell them that now our new strategy is anybody 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:53.680 a friend of a tief is a chief. I've said that, 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:57.080 so really, anybody that is doing any trading, any support 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:59.040 to them, we find you together with them. We're going 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.320 to deal with you like the bandit, like the terrorists. 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:03.480 So people should know, if you don't want to be harmed, 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:05.639 please avoid where those terrorists are. I'm going to give 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:06.760 them any support. 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.760 The suggestion here is that being present in a market 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:13.200 where these people who are terrorists will also justifies to 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:18.480 targeting them. Yeah, it's worth noting the US has been 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:21.639 supporting this campaign, right, and this is not the first 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.239 instance in which civilians have been killed over intten about 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:27.240 the SMA news letter and appeals court in the DC 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:31.280 Circuit has prevented Judge Boseberg from continuing an investigation into 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:35.280 whether Trump officials sent migrants to Ol Salvador. Despite his order, 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:39.320 DC Judge Raw wrote, the government has a clear and 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:43.240 indisputable right determination of this judicial investigation because it is 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:46.640 premise on an order that is insufficiently clear and specific 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:50.440 to sustain a charge of criminal contempt. A long time 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:54.280 court interpreter, the only one for several South Asian languages 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:58.440 in Texas, has been detained by ICE in airport. She 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:02.560 has withholding of removal to India, but with third country 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:06.480 removals now increasingly on the table, that is presumably what 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:11.160 they intend for her. Finally, in court news, another DOJ 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.600 attorney has been fined for missing deadlines in a habeas case, 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:18.360 and once again that attorney cited a crushing caseload is 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:20.279 the reason why they'd missed those deadlines. 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:24.200 This week, both the House and the Senate failed to 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:29.000 advance a war powers resolution compelling the President to cease 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:32.960 military action in Iran. The House vote in particular was 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:35.960 very close, with two hundred and thirteen votes to two 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:40.640 hundred and fourteen, with only one Democrat, Jared Golden, voting 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:44.720 against it, while one Republican, Thomas Massey, voted in support. 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.880 On Monday, the Trump administration agreed to restore the Pride 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.680 flag to the Stonewall National Monument as a part of 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:56.880 settling a lawsuit over its removal. This weekend, President Trump 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.760 got into a fight with the pope over the statements, 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:02.119 again the US and Israel's war in the Middle East. 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:05.680 The president truth that the Pope was quote weak on 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:10.279 crime and terrible for foreign policy quote, before sharing an 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:14.880 AI image of himself depicted as Jesus Christ. The next day, 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.839 Trump claimed quote, I thought it was me as a 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:19.120 doctor unquote. 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:23.840 Great stuff, great stuff. Just a briefly fact check. He 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:25.719 is neither of those things. 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:29.720 No, as far as I'm a west or a doctor. 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:30.200 Yeah. 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:30.520 Yeah. 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:34.520 Legally, I think it is notable and very funny that 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.400 this has now shifted sniff. No, I'm not a significant 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:39.960 but it shifted a discourse on the right to whether 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:44.200 or not Trump is the Anti Christ, with the enemy 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:48.120 of the Show Rob Dreer saying quote, he's giving off 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:53.200 anti Christ energy. So incredible things are happening for Donald 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:55.080 Trump among his nominal base. 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:01.240 Meanwhile, Franklin Graham thinks it was an honest mistake. Yeah, 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:04.520 I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure he does. Yeah. 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:07.560 On Wednesday, police responded to a bomb threat at the 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:11.600 Illinois home of one of Pope Leo's brothers, about forty 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:14.920 miles southwest of Chicago. No explosive was found. 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:19.440 So Congress is in the process of deciding whether or 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:23.880 not to reauthorize section seven oh two of the Foreign 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:27.680 Intelligence Surveillance Act or FAIZA. It's going to sunset on 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.400 April twenty. We're recording this on the sixteenth, so in 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.919 four days if Congress does not reauthorize it. Section oh 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:37.839 two is what lets intelligence agencies in the US collect email, 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:41.800 phone and text communications from foreign nationals outside of the 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:45.840 United States, which often leads to communications of American citizens 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.280 being caught for obvious reasons right as well, they get 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:51.120 kind of swept up in that big net. The FBI 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:54.360 once has asked for and has gotten some permission to 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:58.479 like look into that database to get information on American citizens. 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:01.720 Congress puts some limitation on that in twenty twenty four, 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:05.480 but it remains very controversial and basically like one of 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:07.800 the big debates over this is and there was a 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:09.760 vote in twenty twenty four as to whether or not 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:13.040 to require intelligence agencies to get a warrant before accessing 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:16.440 American communications, and that failed to pass by a single 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:18.920 vote in the House two twelve to two twelve split 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:22.080 in twenty twenty four. So right now, you know, there's 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:25.080 both the question of is this going to get reauthorized 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.880 by Congress, in which case is like the FBI is 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:31.200 certainly going to use it to go after like the 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:35.040 communications of quote unquote antifa, right of like people who 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:38.119 have been caught because they've been naming foreign groups, anti 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:44.040 fascist groups, like foreign terrorist organizations. That's very obviously like 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:46.800 one of the things this is going to be used for. 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:50.040 It's kind of unclear like what is going to happen 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.000 here where Congress is going to land. I did find 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.520 there's an interesting article in Just Security where they're very 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:58.600 worried that because of how very obvious it is that 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:02.280 that federal law enforce horsement will abuse this section seven 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:05.680 h two will just kind of go away entirely, and 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.800 the useful aspects of it as they see it will 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:11.440 no longer be possible. That's not my primary concern, but 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:13.400 it's interesting to read someone being like, oh my god, 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.520 if these guys go so crazy, like if they keep 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:20.200 refusing to allow warrants to be entered into the process 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:23.200 and keep insisting on going after like anti fat like 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:26.440 left wing domestic terrorists, they're going to lose our ability 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:29.240 to like surveil foreign nationals entirely. It's kind of the 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:33.080 concern from a lot of security people anyway. Just probably 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:36.520 good that you're aware of that. So, probably the biggest 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:40.240 international piece of news this week that we're covering is 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:45.600 the defeat of Victor Orbon, who was often considered to 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:49.080 be like a quasi dictatorial figure. I mean, he arose 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.960 to power in Hungary legally, but his party like as 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:56.040 soon as he took power more than a decade ago, 0:08:56.600 --> 0:09:00.319 he's basically been cracking down on the ability of counter 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:04.200 parties to like organize. There's been like massive crackdowns on 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:07.840 the like ability of uh, like it's a lot of 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:11.280 prototype Trump stuff. Like they went after professors, they went 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:14.679 after colleges, they went after like public funds to educational institutions, 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:16.040 to libraries. 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:21.240 Yeah, he pioneered the modern tactics of undermining liberal democracy 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:23.080 via the legal system. 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:25.600 Yes, yes, it's like him and Aired Wanner sort of 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:26.120 like yeah. 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:29.880 Two, you went after the LGBT community, tried to criminalize 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:33.280 like criminalize like pride events and stuff. And also like 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.120 in a big a big part of like Orbon was 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:38.760 obviously very anti migrant, like anti we don't want to 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:42.360 take in you know, uh, particularly during the Syrian refugee 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.080 crisis that was like a big moment for them. But 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:47.920 he was also really anti EU. You know, Hungary is 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.800 a part of the EU, but Orbond's party was very 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:54.680 E like the Fidez party was super EU critical And 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:58.040 in the last decade and change that they've been in power, 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:02.560 the fides Party has been massively corrupt and in fact 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:05.560 has kind of turned the Hungarian government to the extent 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.680 like you know, there was corruption before obviously, but he's 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:13.000 woven his party into the very workings of the government, 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:16.520 primarily as a way to collect money from people and 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:19.880 to distribute government funds to like these right wing pet 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:22.160 projects that they had, which we'll I'll talk about a 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:24.480 little more in a second. But this started to piss 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:27.559 people off and hungry, particularly because the government wasn't doing 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:31.680 a good job of governing, Like the Hungarian economy remained 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:35.640 one of the worst in Europe. Unemployment remained high. Like 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.439 none of the promises that like, well, if we're if 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:40.839 we kind of push the EU away, and if we 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:44.200 keep all if we keep these migrants out, the economy 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:47.360 will get better. What really happened was Fidez robbed everyone 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:50.439 blind and Orbond robbed everyone blind and put his cronies 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:53.000 in positions of power in the hope that he would 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:56.560 never be forced out. Now, Orbon's an interesting figure in 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.400 part because he got his start as a pro democracy 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.959 figure during the latter years of communism in Hungary. He 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:06.920 was a liberal like democratic activist and in fact, the 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:10.360 guy who just beat him, Peter Magyar, we'll talk about 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:14.200 his name also in a second, grew up with like 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:17.880 a poster of Orbon on his bedroom wall because Orbon, 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.440 you know again, communism was coming to an end. Everyone 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:22.520 was very excited. All the young people were very excited 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.520 about democracy, and Orbon was like a figure and I 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:27.400 think he was still. He was never like a leftist 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:29.760 figure when I say liberal, but he was a figure 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:35.840 of like democratizing values. Now Magyar himself is an odd guy. 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:40.480 He's forty five years old and the party that he 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:46.160 ran with, the Tisa Party Tisza, was a party before him, 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.400 but like not a living one really, like it had 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:51.960 been a political party and it had basically died out 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.480 to irrelevance. I think they had a couple of dudes 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.040 kind of kicking around. It's almost like if there were 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:00.800 still a tiny wig party that like four five guys 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.000 met in like twice a year to like have their 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:06.840 little wig meeting the bull coming back. That some guy 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:10.880 who's like a Barack Obama level political mind in terms 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:15.120 of his skill in organizing and charisma came in and 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:20.960 turned that party into a fucking electoral powerhouse that completely 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:25.600 annihilated the previous leading party in an election. Like that's 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:30.040 basically what happened in Hungary. It's a very weird story. 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:34.560 And Magyar is definitely brilliant in terms of he is 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.920 someone who is objectively very intelligent when it comes to 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:43.120 how to build power in a political organization and how 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:46.120 to win elections and how to message to people. He's 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:49.280 very good at all of that stuff. Now, this is 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:53.720 not like a leftist or a progressive like hero type figure, 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:55.720 and he has not pretended to be, to be very clear, 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:57.720 that's not how he built himself at all. In fact, 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:01.760 in some ways he's more conservative than his party. That 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.520 tis a party is like even like Orbon at least 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:08.480 had like a guest worker program and stuff, and Maggar's 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:10.280 against even a lot of that stuff, Like he is 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:15.400 actually more hostile to having like like immigration but he's 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:19.200 not anti EU and he's not. What's interesting is like 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:23.560 he's really kind of hedging in between, like hedging his 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:26.000 I don't know entirely how to describe this. He's like 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:30.200 writing a very weird line because he is not anti Ukraine, 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:34.080 but he's also against Hungary sending weapons ay directly to Ukraine. 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:37.120 But his old attitude is like I'm not super pro 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:39.600 what you guys are doing, but I'm not gonna fight 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:42.960 anything in the EU Parliament. Hungary's going to stop. Hungary 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:46.480 has been like a spoiler in EU politics for a while, 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:48.480 where they would just kind of vote to fuck with 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.400 whatever their EU wants to do, especially used to regards 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:54.559 aiding Ukraine and Magyar's whole thing is like I'm just 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.120 gonna stop, like I'm not gonna ful throatedly support the 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:59.520 stuff you guys want. I'm just gonna stop being an 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.680 anchor playing you down, which is enough like for the 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:05.960 EU to be excited about this. Yeah, like, finally this 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.559 guy Hungary is not going to be and it's Hungary 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.680 is a weird history of acting like an anchor on 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:15.839 other polities. Sometimes that's kind of what was going on 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:18.480 in the Austro Hungarian Empire and like the pre World 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:22.040 War One era where Hungary saw itself as very separate 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:26.320 from the Austria Hungary aspect of things and would vote 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.760 to like fuck with the military because they wanted their 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.400 own military to get more powerful. It's not entirely the same, 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:35.520 it's just interesting the level of like contrarianists that's kind 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:39.840 of baked into a lot of Hungarian politics. I mentioned 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.720 something about Peter's name, So the mag Yards are like 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:46.800 the original like nomadic horse warrior people of the area 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:49.920 we know is Hungary today, the name Magyar just means 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.400 Hungarian now, but it came from the most powerful of 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:57.200 these tribes of nomadic warriors. And someone had made a 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.040 point of this on I waside of Twitter or Blue 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:02.040 Sky around the election that like Peter Maggar is basically 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.880 if a guy was named Johnny American, right like that 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:08.720 that's like literally like his name could not be more patriotic. 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:09.200 Yeah. 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:13.600 Yeah, Adolf Hitler defeated by Amy Yeah in Germany. 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:17.280 Like and Maggar became a force on the political stage 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:20.040 in Hungary very suddenly. He wasn't really a major figure. 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:21.680 He was kind of actually connected to a lot of 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:23.840 because again he was a supporter of the Fadez Party. 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:25.960 He had a lot of friends who were members of 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:28.840 Orbon's government. One of his buddies was Orbon's chief of staff. 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:31.880 In two thousand and six, he married a woman, Judete Varga, 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:35.200 who was the Minister of Justice for the Fadez Party 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.680 under Orbon right. And he'd worked as like a diplomat 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:41.480 in Brussels, so he's like a guy who's part of 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:45.080 this government apparatus that Orbon puts into place. But in 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:48.760 twenty twenty fours there's this huge scandal where the Ministry 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.960 of Justice and like his wife by which I mean 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.160 his well now his ex wife because they split, and 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:57.680 then his ex wife pardons a man who had gotten 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:00.800 convicted for covering up a sex abuse scandal at children's home, 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.840 and Magyar becomes like one of the most visible figures 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.640 on the backlash, being like this entire party is corrupt, 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:10.520 this is super fucked up, and he's coming from a 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:12.240 position of and I was a part of it, so 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.920 I know, like I'm an insider who's broken from the 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:18.240 group because how corrupt and bad this is, and there's 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:23.400 some messed up stuff in there. Magyar does attack orbon 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:27.840 and fidez because his ex wife gets fired along with 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:30.560 another woman when this scandal becomes a problem, and he 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:34.200 accuses the government of like hiding behind women's skirts. But 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:40.720 he's also got he's an odd per. There's some uncomfortable 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:46.240 not damning or anything, just some like uncomfortable realities about him. 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.160 And I want to read a quote from an NPR 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:51.760 article that came out recently that talks about some of this. 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.200 Magyar has blamed the end of his marriage to Varga, 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.960 at least in part on political disagreements, notably, just months 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.480 before the divorce was finalized in twenty twenty three, he's 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.840 secretly recorded one of their conversations, and it was talking 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.399 about an attempt by government aids to interfere in a 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.399 corruption case. Magart released a recording in the wake of 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:10.960 the pardon scandal the following year, which only added fuel 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:14.359 to the fire and credence to his corruption claims, and 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:17.960 his wife resigns from public life altogether after this. She 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:21.119 has accused him of verbal and physical abuse, including like 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:23.800 locking her in a room, And obviously, like the whole 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.639 recording account, there's a lot of there's some uncomfortable stuff 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:30.080 about this guy. But that said, she's also super corrupt 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:34.399 and like doing a lot of really, so I don't know, 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.320 and no one really does. If you read a lot 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:39.159 about this guy. One of the things people point is 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:40.600 that we don't evenly know a lot about him other 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:43.320 than he's really good at whipping a party into shape 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:46.240 and winning an election. Right Like, he proved that much, 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.880 But we don't know much about him. Even Orbond has 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:55.160 made anti LGBTQ writes a big part of his platform, 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:58.720 especially as his his position has gotten weaker. He's tried 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.840 to like supercharge that as a way to hold on 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:06.080 to power. Magyar's not pro queer rights, but he's not 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:10.560 anti queer rights. He has criticized the urban government from 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:13.480 going after LGBTQ people and says that they're doing it 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:16.720 to distract citizens from the issues, which is true. He 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:19.120 said that he supports the right to assembly, he has 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:23.240 not said that he supports LGBTQ rights. That said, if 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:25.199 going from a guy who's like, I actively want to 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:27.359 prosecute people for being queer to a guy who's like, 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:30.639 I just don't want to talk about it is probably 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:31.439 an improvement. 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:34.920 It's worth, noting that in his victory speech he did 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:41.600 make two references to LGBTQ rights, saying that quote, everyone 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:43.919 can live with whoever they love, as long as they 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:48.160 do not violate laws or harm others, and also said quote, 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:50.520 we want to make a country where no one is 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:54.840 persecuted because they think differently, or because someone loves in 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:58.160 a different way to others. Unquote. 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:02.160 This is again broadly a good thing, and it's also good. 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:06.000 It's good in Hungary, it's also good worldwide because Hungary 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:09.760 has been for years not just a major supporter of 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:12.480 far right groups. One of the things Magyar pointed out 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:16.720 as soon as he won election is that there's evidence 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:20.440 that they have found that the Fidez party was using 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:25.600 Hungarian governmental funds to support a couple of number one 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.439 to support SEAPACK because they help hold like a foreign 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:32.920 SEAPAC gatherings in Hungary. So like SEAPAC has been getting 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:37.960 money from the Hungarian government, and Magear said, like, that's 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:40.920 not fine, We're not okay with that. I think that's 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:44.679 actually illegal. And he has also noted that that government 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:49.080 money was going to support the Matthias Corvinus College or MCC, 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:51.640 which was receiving funds from the Orbanne government and that 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:54.760 that is going to stop now. The MCC is both 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:57.080 like it. It's an organization in Hungary, but they also 0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:58.919 have a bunch of like foreign They've got one in 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:02.000 like Romania, there's one in Brussels. They have like a 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:05.560 bunch of foreign branches, and they use the MCC and 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:08.000 fund it in order to fund the far right in 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:12.439 other European countries. Right, like the MCC supports like the 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:15.959 one in Brussels supports in Brussels local fire right groups 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:19.880 and it's been very a fairly effective way of funding 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:23.720 some of these like and oftentimes like Nazi adjacent organizations, 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:26.840 and that money is looking to go away. And there's 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:29.400 an interesting Politico article about some of this that talk 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:32.600 to the MCC Brussels people like the offshoot of this 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:36.040 in Brussels. For its part, MCC Brussels said that Sunday's 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:37.760 election result will have no bearing on its work in 0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:40.760 the city. As an independent organization. We will continue to research, 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:43.480 analyze and advocate around our core concerns and continue to 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:49.040 hold the European Union institutions to account. That's the communications manager, 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:51.879 and the article goes onto note mcc Brussels gets almost 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:54.720 alledge cash ninety nine percent, coming to just over six 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:57.240 million euros according to its listing in the last financial 0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:00.000 year as part of a grant from Matthias Corvinus Collegiate, 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:03.040 which received a ten percent stake in Hungary's lucrative oil 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:05.800 and gas company MOL from Orbn's government in twenty twenty. 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:08.800 That's certainly going away too. This is a major blow 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:11.960 to far right organizing in Europe and in the United States. 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:14.639 And it's more than just losing money, losing a space 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:17.040 to gather, it's losing a proof of concept. 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:17.520 Right. 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:20.800 Orbon was the guy they pointed to, is like, this 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:23.640 is what we want to do in America, not just America, 0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:26.959 but very directly, and Orbon just flamed the fuck out 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:29.879 because he sucked at governing. Now, what happens next is 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:33.320 going to depend on whether or not Magyar prosecutes Fede's 0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:36.640 party members prosecutes Orbon and his cronies. He said he's 0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:39.560 going to, so we'll see, and that's all I gotta 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:40.040 say for now. 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:43.800 Yeah, I think it's worth noting that, like in Europe, 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:47.440 we had this somewhat with Donald Tusk in Poland, right, 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:50.720 and what we have seen there, for instance, on immigration, 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:55.480 has been a continued movement to the right right, like 0:21:55.640 --> 0:22:00.560 Tusk has been like talking about not complying with EU 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:04.960 immigration rulings. And I think that's probably something that people 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:07.280 who are interesting which way this might go should look at. 0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:09.760 But that doesn't mean that it's a bad thing. That 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:14.119 all that is out now that Aubank conceded, right, Like, 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:18.400 he had multiple US politicians, including the Vice president, campaigning 0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:21.600 for him, and he lost, and he admitted he lost, 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:23.680