Speaker 1: It's twelve twenty two am in the Vanderbilt Palatial Mansion
Speaker 1: in Old New York, and you're listening to Night Call.
Speaker 1: Hi everybody, and welcome to Night Call podcast for your
Speaker 1: strange days and lonely nights. I'm Molly Lambert, and here
Speaker 1: with me in Los Angeles is Tess Lynch. And over
Speaker 1: in New York we have Emily Oshda Old New York,
Speaker 1: Old New York, New York, Old New York as opposed
Speaker 1: to uh neo Tokyo or Tokyo three or we were
Speaker 1: in the middle of an argument that I feel like
Speaker 1: we should just like organically let continue, because Molly made
Speaker 1: us watch an American experience documentary on PBS like a
Speaker 1: goddamn social studies teacher in sixth grade, and uh we
Speaker 1: are are now debating the value of set assign Guys, guys.
Speaker 1: I was dreading watching. I can't express why. I was like,
Speaker 1: Molly was like, we have to watch this PBS documentary
Speaker 1: from narrated by Oliver Back. I can't give it together
Speaker 1: enough on the Gilded Age and Emily and I think
Speaker 1: asked why and Molly didn't really provide an answer, but
Speaker 1: this did that we had to do I thought it
Speaker 1: was interesting. She thought it was interesting. She had been
Speaker 1: tweeting about it. I like all the PBS American Experienced documentaries.
Speaker 1: I think they're the best documentary series. There's one about
Speaker 1: Walt Disney and how they're good company. They're very good.
Speaker 1: Some might say a little sleepy, a lot sleepy. I
Speaker 1: mean it is that form. It is that like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, silent era footage of New York City with
Speaker 1: sound effects. Put on a clip club and he went
Speaker 1: where he could gallop, and Carnegie was galloping his horse
Speaker 1: along the river, and it's like forty five minutes galloping horse.
Speaker 1: Please you how they said his name every time the
Speaker 1: historians the talking head said Carnegie. No, they also said
Speaker 1: car No. They did not because I was like, I
Speaker 1: am not going to go on the podcast and say Carnegie.
Speaker 1: If everyone here's guys are coming down so hard on
Speaker 1: the Gilded Age, I do not argue with the premise
Speaker 1: that which I think was your intention in having us
Speaker 1: watch this documentary, that we are living in the new
Speaker 1: Guilded Age or a new Gilded Age, that is very apparent.
Speaker 1: I think, like you know, we talked a little while
Speaker 1: ago about going to Hudson Yards, and just the boom
Speaker 1: in ultra luxury construction for not even the one percent,
Speaker 1: like the point one percent that's in New York City.
Speaker 1: I think New York City you tend to see that
Speaker 1: on the street. Uh. And also you're like walking in
Speaker 1: streets and by buildings that were built during the original
Speaker 1: guilded age, So you have that added element of history
Speaker 1: that you're kind of just like taking in all the time,
Speaker 1: just ambiently. So I don't disagree, like I think, I
Speaker 1: think it's important to think about these parallels um and
Speaker 1: and well American experience. They sure do convey information. If anything,
Speaker 1: they're good at conveying information on an American experienced documentary.
Speaker 1: I think this also came out of that I was
Speaker 1: tweeting about how I recorded a drunk history that didn't
Speaker 1: go to air because I was so interested in the
Speaker 1: boring ins and outs of details of the history itself.
Speaker 1: What was the drunk history that you did? It was
Speaker 1: Tammany Hall and Boss tweet tell them what you drank? Uh,
Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj's Muscado, There we go and then you fum
Speaker 1: at the end of what Molly drank. Everybody was like,
Speaker 1: why are you doing drunk history? Like you don't drink.
Speaker 1: That was a response I got from everybody I told
Speaker 1: I was doing it. I was like, good, good call.
Speaker 1: I guess we'll see. And then I tried to drink
Speaker 1: train a little bit like leading up to it, but
Speaker 1: having like a beer at night, because I don't usually
Speaker 1: drink very much. Just it's not for Yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: for me. But yes, So I didn't know that muscato
Speaker 1: didn't have like any alcohol in it. So, but you
Speaker 1: drank mostly that the whole bottle. Yeah, I drank the
Speaker 1: bottle of moscato. And then I drank like a like
Speaker 1: a tumbler of whiskey. Yeah, tumbling and then and then
Speaker 1: a tequila shot. Am I wrong? Maybe? And then I
Speaker 1: was just like, now I have to just not throw
Speaker 1: upon myself. But I learned something about myself, which is
Speaker 1: like my desire to be on television was not as
Speaker 1: great as my desire to not throw up on myself
Speaker 1: on television, you know, because I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to be that person in the commercial reel that's
Speaker 1: just vomiting. I think that is the real difficulty of
Speaker 1: doing drunk history. I love doing favorite, I love it.
Speaker 1: I love to do it, but it's but I have
Speaker 1: never not been afraid of throwing up. But I also
Speaker 1: you know, the first time I did it, I was
Speaker 1: a little bit more Devil may Care in my drinking,
Speaker 1: and then in subsequent turns, I was like, Okay, I
Speaker 1: know what I can drink and the my limits, and
Speaker 1: they have you know, medical staff there, which is nice.
Speaker 1: Do you also like the sort of Lisa Simpson nous
Speaker 1: of like being given a history lesson that you have
Speaker 1: to learn? Oh? I love it? Okay, So I love
Speaker 1: it so much. Bring that to the Gilded Age. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's my thing about the Gilded Age. So I will
Speaker 1: just say right off the bat, I tried three different
Speaker 1: times to finish this documentary can fail, but I did
Speaker 1: get pretty deep into it. But I like how none
Speaker 1: of us got to the part where then they figure
Speaker 1: out how to fight back, and like it becomes the
Speaker 1: progressive era, right I got. I got through Henry George
Speaker 1: running for what Henry George? What a cool guy who
Speaker 1: doesn't know? Okay, Well, the thing I liked about the
Speaker 1: Skillad Age documentary was it was like the beginning of
Speaker 1: a club. Because I also liked the clip clop. I
Speaker 1: believe just that it was like about the the Industrial
Speaker 1: Age being the beginning of like the partnership between uh
Speaker 1: politics and industry of like businesses buying off politicians, and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, this is something that like the history
Speaker 1: of it isn't even that old actually, you know, and
Speaker 1: like people already got super mad about it once and
Speaker 1: forced it to be reformed. Um, but it just seemed
Speaker 1: so much like tech tech stuff. It was so much
Speaker 1: like the yea, some idiot like you know, put his
Speaker 1: money in an old timey bitcoin and like became a billionaire.
Speaker 1: And then everybody y else put their money an old
Speaker 1: timey bitcoin and went broke, and they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: you must not have wanted it badly enough, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think I think there are a couple of interesting
Speaker 1: things that I remember from the first part of it,
Speaker 1: which was like going into Andrew Carnegie's origin and how
Speaker 1: he really did come from nothing in Scotland, was poor
Speaker 1: and you know, just had a you know, good at
Speaker 1: business acumen and noticed that people were going to be
Speaker 1: needing steel a lot in the next century and so
Speaker 1: got into that business, which is like fine and was
Speaker 1: literally a self made man. But the degree to which
Speaker 1: that became the story that everybody else wanted to tell
Speaker 1: about themselves, regardless of whether or not that was their
Speaker 1: actual story. I think that created this like kind of
Speaker 1: toxic or myth of like American capitalism. Yes, it's like
Speaker 1: the toxic individualism, which is like each person is a
Speaker 1: business that will like learn to succeed and to stop
Speaker 1: you from if you don't succeed, it's just that you
Speaker 1: didn't have the will right well. And also, like I
Speaker 1: think the other interesting thing that was noted by somebody
Speaker 1: on there is that this is a time when the
Speaker 1: ratio of people who were employees, like people who just
Speaker 1: depended on other people for an income, became so huge,
Speaker 1: like you know, per capita um in a way that
Speaker 1: had never been before, and we just kind of take
Speaker 1: for granted now that's how everybody, like everybody's an employee
Speaker 1: mostly um, unless they're a freelancer. But I really liked
Speaker 1: that article. Is the article from the All that somebody
Speaker 1: put in my timeline about Pixar movies being in a
Speaker 1: theory of labor about Pixar movies. Oh, I saw that,
Speaker 1: I mean the All. It's it's interesting how often made
Speaker 1: me miss the All this year. I feel like I've
Speaker 1: come across. UM so many things from the All that
Speaker 1: have been so timely. I miss the All more than
Speaker 1: any other website. But yeah, I was kind of about
Speaker 1: like how Pixar movies are all about like getting a job,
Speaker 1: keeping that job. Um, and you have Pixar movies, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: your job is zero identity. And in the case of
Speaker 1: a bad Bird movie, uh, you're the best and nobody
Speaker 1: else can do it and you and you're the best,
Speaker 1: then you deserve everything. You become the uber rat, yeah,
Speaker 1: the uber Um. While we're on the subject of animation,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you guys free of the Gilded Age.
Speaker 1: You're free, We're not free of the Gilded Age? Is
Speaker 1: the act? Like you had more to say, I'm not free. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna loop back just really quickly to say
Speaker 1: that I found an article refuting that we can say
Speaker 1: that we are uniquely in a second Gilded Age. It
Speaker 1: was on Fox. Um, but they you know, the no
Speaker 1: Fox but please, I'm not that guy. But people have
Speaker 1: been calling the current time Fox recognized their union. Oh god, please,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I mean that's the other Maybe
Speaker 1: that's why they're like, it's at a gilded age. Everything's fine.
Speaker 1: They did, they did recognize the union. The now BuzzFeed yeah,
Speaker 1: buzz oh my god, buzzed. And I think it is
Speaker 1: funny to be like, I feel like we've all done
Speaker 1: jokes about being like coal miners and steel workers, but
Speaker 1: it is like we are the steel workers in what
Speaker 1: about Come get my my printed out notes. But the
Speaker 1: junk bonds of the eighties, the internet bubbles of the nineties,
Speaker 1: the collateralized debt obligation addies to the top one percent tens,
Speaker 1: It's like there is we've always we've always been. You
Speaker 1: can't say that like right now where you were more
Speaker 1: uniquely in a gilded age. I think the stratification of
Speaker 1: wealth is the one thing that's There's always been some
Speaker 1: kind of bubble going on in any given decade, something
Speaker 1: that is gilded in either economically or culturally or something else.
Speaker 1: But I think I think that the thing that makes
Speaker 1: now feel particularly analogous to the Gilded Age is the well,
Speaker 1: the disparity in in wealth, like the extremes, Like we're
Speaker 1: not talking about mirrors, mirrors any there's no middle class. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: But I agree that maybe the idea that like I
Speaker 1: just I felt like a lot of the American ideals
Speaker 1: were established in the Gilded Age that are all bad
Speaker 1: things we should stop doing. I totally no disagreement there,
Speaker 1: but I mean I also think of like American Sitco
Speaker 1: and Bonfire, the vanities like New York in the eighties
Speaker 1: as being like Prime. You point out, yeah, Wall Street,
Speaker 1: which I've never seen done, You're done and done. Okay, now,
Speaker 1: well now we can let go of this. Well, on
Speaker 1: the subject of animation, I just wanted to briefly do
Speaker 1: a Emily's Anime podcast. Uh. Yeah, Well, I have bad
Speaker 1: news for everybody, which is that I haven't acted well.
Speaker 1: I watched fifteen minutes of the new Netflix um HD
Speaker 1: remaster of Neon Genesis Evan Galion, which came out on Friday,
Speaker 1: the twenty one of June. I was excited. I was
Speaker 1: already in the middle of a rewatch of it, so
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'll just continue watching it on Netflix,
Speaker 1: which I love. Then uh, like fill in the blank,
Speaker 1: crappy illegal anime stream site that I have been using.
Speaker 1: But then I started to see just some rumblings online
Speaker 1: from people who I guess like bravely forged through and
Speaker 1: binged it. Within twenty four hours of it being on Netflix,
Speaker 1: because this was all happening like that Friday. UM, just
Speaker 1: about some of the stuff that they did to the
Speaker 1: storyline and some of the characters and some of the
Speaker 1: questionable re translations because it was so they did a
Speaker 1: new dub, which is fine. I don't care. I don't
Speaker 1: watch the dub. I know that. Like people like the
Speaker 1: original dub of of um neon Genes Galian, and I
Speaker 1: am not one of those people who have really watched
Speaker 1: it all the way. I mean, I've watched a little
Speaker 1: bit of It's fine. I really love the voice actors
Speaker 1: in the Japanese one, so I prefer that. Uh it
Speaker 1: So people didn't like the new dub. That didn't affect me.
Speaker 1: I was going to watch it anyway. But then I
Speaker 1: think a lot of this translation. Um, I think there
Speaker 1: are parts where they did try to make it more natural,
Speaker 1: but then there are parts where they like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I tried to eliminate some gay subtext with some characters
Speaker 1: and other little things that seems sort of unnecessary and
Speaker 1: weird and questionable. So I was just like, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna keep watching it on my sheep streaming site. So um,
Speaker 1: that is but then I said that I tweeted that,
Speaker 1: and then like people were DM me me, like send
Speaker 1: me the link, like what do you watch? Um? But
Speaker 1: I'm always happy to introduce people to that show because
Speaker 1: it's it's again, it's like the Guild and Age. It's
Speaker 1: something that makes you think a lot about now uh
Speaker 1: and get real depressed. So yeah, all right. I saw
Speaker 1: one tweet I really liked that was somebody doing a
Speaker 1: joke about Hank Hill from King of the Hill pronouncing
Speaker 1: Neon Genesis seven gallion and over again. Well. Also, the
Speaker 1: other main like the imprinted made on American culture was
Speaker 1: in the movie One Hour Photo with Robin Williams where
Speaker 1: he like stopped some kid and the toy aisle who's
Speaker 1: buying an even Gillian like action figure um and says,
Speaker 1: oh wow, Neon Genesis see Van Gillion. I remember that
Speaker 1: because that movie is awesome photos in theaters. I have
Speaker 1: seen it twice since what if. I don't think I
Speaker 1: could ever watch it again, but it's a very disturbing movie,
Speaker 1: so of course I right, yeah, I mean, and also
Speaker 1: like scary Robin Williams, I forced other people to watch
Speaker 1: that movie. And then I'm always kind of shamed for it,
Speaker 1: but I feel it's a very It's an intense movie.
Speaker 1: I got to see the intense movies. Speaking of which
Speaker 1: Molly and I will be seeing an intense movie this
Speaker 1: evening to report on next week. Midstem so excited. UM
Speaker 1: yeh as the sweet say. The bone spikes guys that
Speaker 1: we talked about last weeks important updates. So in the
Speaker 1: days following the initial reporting on the spikes that were
Speaker 1: growing at the back of our skulls because we look
Speaker 1: at our phones too much that was reported, we cited
Speaker 1: the BBC article I think the New York Times and
Speaker 1: others I think, including Gizmoto, uh interviewed some people, some
Speaker 1: doctors who cast some doubt on the original study. UM.
Speaker 1: When the New York Times weighed in, they said that
Speaker 1: the they interviewed a doctor who said that his issues
Speaker 1: with the study were that, UM, the people who had
Speaker 1: the bone spikes who were being kind of studied, were
Speaker 1: already complaining of neck pain. There was no control group.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like they were contrasting people who were using
Speaker 1: their phones a lot to people who weren't. It was
Speaker 1: like a totally is not a scientifically sound study. And
Speaker 1: also the way that it was framed as like we're
Speaker 1: growing scary spikes on our heads is not really what's
Speaker 1: going on. So guys are so chill about this. I'm
Speaker 1: chill about it. And you know, initially I was like,
Speaker 1: so what now we're getting you know, our bodies are adapting. Also,
Speaker 1: they've been standing to anything we've ever done as humans
Speaker 1: where we're looking down, like if we're doing needle point,
Speaker 1: we're probably exactly you know, like that. You guys are like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a knitter's hump. It's fine. No, it's
Speaker 1: not fine. I mean before that it would have been
Speaker 1: like a wheat would thrashing. Uh, better ways to get
Speaker 1: a next spike? Been looking at your phone, You're just
Speaker 1: looking down. It's a looking down. It's not coming at
Speaker 1: you from like, it's not like you're getting it's not
Speaker 1: like it's growing because of like radiation from your phone
Speaker 1: or something like brain cancer from your phone is a
Speaker 1: more of a concern, I would say than the bones. Well,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things about that at the UFO conference. Really,
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to talk about that. Boy well, I
Speaker 1: mean yeah, liz La Pato, my former co host at
Speaker 1: virgsp who's the science editor at The Verge. She was
Speaker 1: tweeting about this. Also just like you know, this is
Speaker 1: not a new phenomenon. This is like a thing that
Speaker 1: people have known about, except now they can also correlate
Speaker 1: it to phone you supposedly, but also as you say,
Speaker 1: like the study was not the most thorough thing in
Speaker 1: the world, this is also the thing. This is what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about with Life Science, like and I guess
Speaker 1: it's sort of ironic that the sources this time are
Speaker 1: like the BBC and UH and Washington Post and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, like the people who reported on it, but
Speaker 1: but looking at a study and not being able to
Speaker 1: look at it critically, not saying that I could. I'm
Speaker 1: not that kind of reporter, but a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't when they report these freaky sounding studies. That's why
Speaker 1: Life Science is the only outlet we trust here. And
Speaker 1: I hey, speaking of Live Science, you guys, we got
Speaker 1: a really good Live Science tidbit, which is the seaworm
Speaker 1: with butt eyes. So our favorite factually sound website, Live
Speaker 1: Science reported on a new species of seaworm discovered off
Speaker 1: the coast of Scotland this month, and it has eyes
Speaker 1: on it's but its name is the amphory. Give me
Speaker 1: a minute. Oculus Oculus serrata. It's about as wide as
Speaker 1: a pencil eraser. It has tentacles by its mouth, as
Speaker 1: many seaworms do, but unlike other seaworms, it has eyes
Speaker 1: on its butt. I think like the worm of the shirt.
Speaker 1: That's like, my eyes are down here, I hope, so
Speaker 1: nice one. It's transparent looking. Also, it's cute. It's I
Speaker 1: don't know if cute's the word I would use. Well,
Speaker 1: it's also like what same interesting? I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: what qualifies a butt? But that I thought about it
Speaker 1: for like one second. You know what qualifies? But the
Speaker 1: things that worm has seen? Well, we should take a
Speaker 1: night call because we've had one for a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks that we wanted to be able to spend some
Speaker 1: time talking about. So let's bring it up. So I've
Speaker 1: heard that some scientists have made mechanical and digital basically
Speaker 1: probability machines that measure just the randomness generated in an area,
Speaker 1: and have found that in certain areas the probability actually
Speaker 1: changes um things become less random. So I listened to
Speaker 1: a podcast once that talked about how the on a
Speaker 1: wavelength function. The possibility of something quantum tunneling to be
Speaker 1: pretty much measured, and it isn't just from the micro
Speaker 1: scale or quantum scale, but theoretically scales up to the
Speaker 1: macro scale human sized. So I've always had a a
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory related to the disappearances that they've seen at
Speaker 1: national parks. I always wondered if there was some possibility
Speaker 1: that the probability of randomness and these these parks are
Speaker 1: a little bit more possible and as a result, people
Speaker 1: are accidentally quantum tunneling into parallel universes or you know,
Speaker 1: just uttered fee underground. Given that there's a possibility for it,
Speaker 1: it's a non zero sum. That means theoretically it can happen,
Speaker 1: not super lately, but non a non zero amount. So
Speaker 1: I just want to see what you guys thought about that.
Speaker 1: Look forward to hearing more from your podcast. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Let's just call it quantum leap mm hm, well, thank
Speaker 1: you very much for that call. Uh really gave us
Speaker 1: something to think about and do our own research on um.
Speaker 1: I did not know about these disappearances, but there have
Speaker 1: been something like one thousand, one hundred in let me
Speaker 1: look at I had that there's an article at Vice
Speaker 1: from seventeen that sites the Outside magazine for a sixteen
Speaker 1: hundred Yeah, sixteen hundred within the history of the parks.
Speaker 1: It's complicated, but there have been let's say, like over
Speaker 1: a thousand disappearances on national park lands. But it becomes
Speaker 1: more complicated because there is a conspiracy theorist who is
Speaker 1: collecting some data that is then being used. So right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that his is it David Paulides, Yes, it is. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I had no idea about this um. I think
Speaker 1: that there was a there's a How Stuff Works article
Speaker 1: about this um. But the quantum, the quantum randomness thing
Speaker 1: is interesting. I mean, I don't know that much about
Speaker 1: like how quantum randomness works, but I would I would
Speaker 1: think it would be sort of interesting to think about
Speaker 1: that being more likely in a place like, uh a
Speaker 1: national park that's been preserved that, you know, where there
Speaker 1: is not as much human activity. I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: I like about this theory. First of all, I don't
Speaker 1: believe in it. Sure, I want to say that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't believe in it. I think people disappear in
Speaker 1: national parks because they're so big. People disappear in Angela's
Speaker 1: forest near me all the time because it's a giant.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's also amazing and awesome that there are
Speaker 1: places that are like that you can disappear so yeah yeah, um,
Speaker 1: and that they're so close to you know, other things.
Speaker 1: But I like this theory because it is like a
Speaker 1: picnic at hanging rock theory. Well, I like the idea.
Speaker 1: It feels very twin peaks to be like suddenly like
Speaker 1: wink your underground, like um, you're just and you're there,
Speaker 1: and it's like just a clean jump down to this
Speaker 1: other reality. Yeah, this is it's weird because so it
Speaker 1: is a popular conspiracy theory as far as I can
Speaker 1: tell in this very niche circle. David Paulites fans. I mean, well,
Speaker 1: first of all, when we got this call, we intended
Speaker 1: to answer it last week. But I think quantum randomness
Speaker 1: it breaks my brain. And I'm sure that that's not
Speaker 1: a totally uncommon feeling when you're trying to understand quantum
Speaker 1: physics a lot of really advanced science. It's interating, yes,
Speaker 1: but it's also like some of it sounds so insane
Speaker 1: that you're like, how is that Reality's that's what's so cool?
Speaker 1: I mean it's when you start thinking about quantum randomness
Speaker 1: as having to do with sub atomic particles, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, your your brain kind of walks out the door,
Speaker 1: you know, and doesn't want to hear anymore about that.
Speaker 1: Brands want to hear more. We someone who really understands
Speaker 1: it to explain it. What if I find a great
Speaker 1: PBS documentary or you could go to ask a mathematician
Speaker 1: dot com if you wanted to learn a little bit
Speaker 1: about it, like a Brian greenbook or something which I
Speaker 1: did and have since lost. Like, but I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's hard to retain because you can't apply it to
Speaker 1: many things. So you come across the articles about that
Speaker 1: disappearing national parks. The problem with with the quantum mechanics
Speaker 1: is that it's only like you know, the evidence of
Speaker 1: it working at anything above that sub potomic level is
Speaker 1: very small, Like there's not a lot of information about that.
Speaker 1: So but trying and trying to find the link is right,
Speaker 1: because if it were real, we would have star trek
Speaker 1: holidacks by now exactly. I mean, I think what was
Speaker 1: interesting about this call and then kind of looking into
Speaker 1: the theories that go along with it um are there
Speaker 1: are these people who are like fervently that this you know,
Speaker 1: there are wormholes in national parks, and I'm very interested
Speaker 1: in the fact that those people believe this, um, because
Speaker 1: it's not you know, why not, why not entertain it?
Speaker 1: But um, the guy David Polides Um, he writes a
Speaker 1: series of books called Missing four one one, and he's
Speaker 1: also he's a crypto zoologist our faith who claims to
Speaker 1: have an investigative and law enforcement background. But that's hard
Speaker 1: to verify. Um. But the National Park Service doesn't keep
Speaker 1: track of people who go missing, and it's something that
Speaker 1: has been you know, frustrating even to sort of realistic skeptics. Well, hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, I just realized it's the twenty year
Speaker 1: anniversary of the Blair Witch project today. Just know, in
Speaker 1: like general, just um, yeah, I feel like that is
Speaker 1: one of the scariest things. That's the idea that you
Speaker 1: go in nature and just just get lost on this
Speaker 1: blog post that I found about Poldes and not this
Speaker 1: theory in general. Um. He apparently went on Coast to
Speaker 1: Coast am to talk about this. Um. Of course, I
Speaker 1: think that when when when would this have been This
Speaker 1: post is from so sometime around then and uh it says.
Speaker 1: In his books and in interviews, Polites Doves gives some
Speaker 1: possible reasons for the disappearances. On a recent appearance on
Speaker 1: the radio show Coast to Coast, a AM Police listed
Speaker 1: some ideas such as sasquatch, large birds, and extra terrestrials,
Speaker 1: but he also mentioned demons as a possible cause, which
Speaker 1: goes along with the belief in the Philippines that the
Speaker 1: gin or demons are responsible for abductions. So there's just
Speaker 1: a wealth of possibilities here, arranging from quantum randomness to demons.
Speaker 1: So whatever your favorite flavor is, well there's that I
Speaker 1: think it's an Arthur C. Clark quote. That's like any
Speaker 1: significantly advanced science knowledge magic. That's what it feels like
Speaker 1: some of that stuff. That's what's so cool about it
Speaker 1: is you're like, it is, it's just it's magic. And yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe it's me. I think that all the time, and
Speaker 1: I always think about like what right now feel because
Speaker 1: it always is changing, of course, like what feels like
Speaker 1: magic versus what feels totally mundane and explainable at this point,
Speaker 1: like you know, there was a time when iPhones felt
Speaker 1: like magic and now whatever, they're like sources of stress
Speaker 1: and uhs of horns, of sources of school horns, and
Speaker 1: but what what feels what feels magic to you guys
Speaker 1: right now? Technology wise, you know, we talked about the
Speaker 1: star holograms before, and I've generally been against them, but
Speaker 1: I just saw a flyer for a Dio hologram and
Speaker 1: I was like, maybe that's fine. Maybe that's hollograms seem
Speaker 1: retro to me, and they don't see there's nothing futuristic
Speaker 1: covers ghosts. What's futuristic? You're right, You're right. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's hard. I I feel like now just because of
Speaker 1: the overwhelming depressive news that it's so relentless, it's really
Speaker 1: hard to find things that inspire the kind of oh magic,
Speaker 1: Like I just don't see those things anymore and it's
Speaker 1: kind of lame. UM I remember, like back in I
Speaker 1: don't even know twelve or something, UM I got sent
Speaker 1: as a sponsorship like content to review for grant Land
Speaker 1: this thing that you plugged like a USB port that
Speaker 1: would make a bacon smell, and I was like, wow, wow,
Speaker 1: how cool? And then there was you know, UM popularized
Speaker 1: a while ago for a brief moment, the magic berries
Speaker 1: that you eat and they make things taste different, like
Speaker 1: those things seem magical, but beyond that, there's not. Right now,
Speaker 1: I just look around, I'm like, everything's just was it
Speaker 1: Judge bacon, it was this was a branded bacon USB thing.
Speaker 1: I wish that there was a USB smells. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I wish there was a thing where you could, um,
Speaker 1: like transmit smells with like a like a little widget
Speaker 1: or something on your phone. Like that's a big casino thing.
Speaker 1: And I do. I do feel like there's so many opportunities. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, the whole the response that you get to
Speaker 1: a smell. I mean maybe what we're missing now is
Speaker 1: people taking advantage of more kind of tactile or like
Speaker 1: sensual feelings. Dodger Stadium UM, who are now known as
Speaker 1: d j DS because Dodger Stadium has a ligitious team. Um,
Speaker 1: they made an incense. I didn't know that's why that happened,
Speaker 1: but yeah, they made they made an incense that's really good.
Speaker 1: What is it? It smells It's like the it just
Speaker 1: smells like fresh. It's very Incense is hard because most
Speaker 1: incense just smells like incense. Yes, you know, no matter
Speaker 1: that it makes me nostalgic for specific thing. This is
Speaker 1: like a good it smells very good. I like it.
Speaker 1: I think we should. Yeah, if there's any listeners right
Speaker 1: now who are like super smellers or work in the
Speaker 1: fragrance industry, I would love to have somebody come on
Speaker 1: the podcast because I have so many questions. I like,
Speaker 1: I was waiting in line to pick up a package
Speaker 1: at the drug store because I pick up packages at
Speaker 1: a place that does tend things in addition to packages,
Speaker 1: because that's New York baby, and they also sell like
Speaker 1: discount perfumes. So there was like they had all of
Speaker 1: the old like Justin Bieber Frager fragrances, Like there was
Speaker 1: a Justin Bieber fragrance called Justin Bieber's girlfriend that from
Speaker 1: maybe or something. I can't remember. Maybe it was earlier
Speaker 1: than that, back when magic existed. Yeah, but I'm like,
Speaker 1: like I always I always think about those celebrity fragrances
Speaker 1: and like, yeah, casino fragrances, and like what how fragrances mean?
Speaker 1: I guess should definitely think about what the night call
Speaker 1: fragrance would be. Yeah, well somehow we got we got
Speaker 1: to fragrances from disappearances. I have a segue, which is
Speaker 1: that there was a perfume at the UFO convention that
Speaker 1: was supposed to smell like an alien abduction. What it
Speaker 1: smell like? Well, I didn't smell it, but my friend
Speaker 1: has bought it because apparently it was. The guy told
Speaker 1: her that they made one based on people's recollections of
Speaker 1: what the abduction smelled like, and then when they made
Speaker 1: the first batch it smelled so bad. I mean you
Speaker 1: would imagine it wouldn't smell good. They made a secondary batch. Um,
Speaker 1: she says it does not. It does not smell good
Speaker 1: per se, but maybe it is accurate. Is it called
Speaker 1: o Foh? I'm sorry, I'm so fun today, it's sane. Um. Well, Molly,
Speaker 1: you went to alien con in Los Angeles this past weekend,
Speaker 1: which I am so jealous about. Uh. Which is it
Speaker 1: seems like half science e and then half kind of
Speaker 1: like freestyle, which is a good I think, a good combo.
Speaker 1: I was a little worried because when I walked in
Speaker 1: I saw that it was some real sponsors. I thought,
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope this is still a bunch of weirdos,
Speaker 1: And boy was it. It was all weirdos. Um. It's
Speaker 1: put on by The History Channel was a big sponsor,
Speaker 1: and so there were people from Ancient Aliens. I saw
Speaker 1: a lot of Ancient Aliens programming. I do want to
Speaker 1: express I do not believe in ancient Aliens because it's
Speaker 1: so fun. It's like, no, but here's what they're bad.
Speaker 1: Here's why the ancient Aliens are bad. Because it's always
Speaker 1: just like some non Western civilization made some amazing thing
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, how did they make the pyramids?
Speaker 1: We don't know. Therefore Aliens, it's all ancient Egyptian stuff
Speaker 1: like Mayan temples, literally anything that wasn't made by like
Speaker 1: Europeans or like Aliens. Only explanation, but that's why it's okay,
Speaker 1: that's fair. But um, it was a lot of like
Speaker 1: there was like ancient Aliens themed rock music. Somebody had
Speaker 1: an album there. There was a lot of like CBD stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a weird overlap the ven diagram of the
Speaker 1: the UFOs and the c B D s. Let's CD
Speaker 1: in the is the incense of Now it's like the
Speaker 1: Naga Jampa of teens. I think it was like a
Speaker 1: CBD energy drink. Sure that seems oxymoronic. Maybe it was
Speaker 1: a sleepy Drink Sleepy Drink, and there were some like
Speaker 1: y A and fantasy novels for sale, also about aliens,
Speaker 1: people interacting with aliens. Yeah, that's wait what so what
Speaker 1: did you see? Like? Did you go to any panels
Speaker 1: or anything? Like? I went to the I saw the
Speaker 1: end of a panel that my friend and was interested
Speaker 1: in that was about, uh something called Nightcrawler Ranch. It's
Speaker 1: not Nightcrawler, it's skin Walker skin Walker Ranch site sounds
Speaker 1: like studio for ye. Well, I don't. I think it's
Speaker 1: a joke on Skywalker Ranch. But it's a part of
Speaker 1: Utah that apparently there are a lot of Native American
Speaker 1: legends about their being skin walkers there. Um. But then
Speaker 1: it was also a big navy or something site. What
Speaker 1: is a skin walker like? I'm sorry, I'm uninitiated into
Speaker 1: because you may remember you refused to be involved in
Speaker 1: the X Files fandom with me. I had better things
Speaker 1: to do during my free period, which obviously known I
Speaker 1: left for the Juggling Club. A skin walker is a
Speaker 1: Navajo concept for a type of harmful witch who has
Speaker 1: the ability to turn into possess or disguise themselves as
Speaker 1: an animal. Shape shifter, yes, shape shufter it's super cool.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, and they I think it's usually like
Speaker 1: it tends to be a coyote, huh, which I like
Speaker 1: because I feel like coyotes appear at weird times, the
Speaker 1: idea that coyotes or But then this is wrapped up
Speaker 1: with alien stuff, I think, because there's also kind of
Speaker 1: like mysterious government Air Force type stuff in this area.
Speaker 1: So there's these guys who do something where they like
Speaker 1: go with ghost machines or something to the area. They
Speaker 1: were all wearing a lot of Indiana Jones hats um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, mostly the action was in the hall. The
Speaker 1: main the hall where you could see this was at
Speaker 1: the convention was at the convention center, very strange place.
Speaker 1: The convention Center strange place, and the arena was only
Speaker 1: like the thing itself. They had only filled up about
Speaker 1: happy space with boots, which just great because the last
Speaker 1: time I went to a convention it was the Anime Convention. Um.
Speaker 1: I went to the Anime Convention there twice, and the
Speaker 1: first time it was fun, and the second time it
Speaker 1: was like so crowded. It was not fun. It was
Speaker 1: like impossible to move. And this was like a She'll
Speaker 1: ask convention, you know, there were some people. There was
Speaker 1: one woman addresses the three Breasted Alien from Total Recall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw they had a cause play competition there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But there was some just like lowbrow art stuff like
Speaker 1: you're kind of classic l A garbage art where it's
Speaker 1: like Illuminati pyramid and Elvis uh and aliens also, um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I recommend Alien con. They're going to be
Speaker 1: in Dallas this fall. They're doing an Alien con in Dallas.
Speaker 1: Maybe we should also, like Yeah, they also had like
Speaker 1: tarot readers you know, and it was just like it
Speaker 1: was fun. Um. I learned. How seriously did it take itself?
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't get in any conversations with anybody
Speaker 1: about it. This is what I would want to know
Speaker 1: because looking at it, it seemed as though it was
Speaker 1: a very lighthearted. It was lighthearted. It was like a
Speaker 1: Hollywood alien convention. It was like also, you know, Star
Speaker 1: Trek stuff and Star Wars stuff. There was one really
Speaker 1: weird thing that I was interested in that seemed like
Speaker 1: something Emily would love, called the arc. That was like
Speaker 1: it was just like a like a triangular pyramid, uh
Speaker 1: kind of thing that you sit in and it just
Speaker 1: was like ascend and that's it said, did it like
Speaker 1: a tiny little I don't know, it said experience Coherence.
Speaker 1: I can't believe it. It's like the it's like a
Speaker 1: tent with no fabric on it. It's just like the
Speaker 1: outline of a tent at Pyramid. Yeah, and you sit
Speaker 1: in it and it says Discover Vitality. Were they selling something? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't know what that was. The thing too,
Speaker 1: is I couldn't figure it out at all. Sounds like
Speaker 1: the perfect brand activation for it. Didn't know notice for
Speaker 1: I didn't know what you were supposed to do with it.
Speaker 1: But it was just like Discover Vitality. Did you see
Speaker 1: William Shatner there? No, he's like the big celebrity that
Speaker 1: they were like promoting. There everything you need to know,
Speaker 1: I feel like. But yeah, I mean in terms of
Speaker 1: sci fi conventions, it was very chill. It was like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, there were kids. It was like a relaxed
Speaker 1: cosplay atmosphere. That sounds great. Yeah, it was great. So
Speaker 1: I will definitely go back and we should definitely all
Speaker 1: go And I got you, guys, something that I will
Speaker 1: present you with at the next laptop. Okay, who would suspense? Um, guys,
Speaker 1: I think that We would be really neglecting our duty
Speaker 1: as official science reporters if we didn't briefly discuss the
Speaker 1: fox like cat or cat like fox, depending on what
Speaker 1: how you're feeling, that was discovered in Corsica. I love
Speaker 1: this thing. However, you might feel about the butt worm
Speaker 1: that but high butt worm. I think everyone can agree
Speaker 1: that the cat fox is the cutest idea. What what
Speaker 1: is the deal with the cat fox? Exactly? They found
Speaker 1: this cat. It's a fox. It's a fox that looks
Speaker 1: like a cat. It's a fox that looks like a cat,
Speaker 1: and it has little pointy teeth and a grumpy disposition,
Speaker 1: they say, And it's a new species. I'm that has
Speaker 1: mentioned this video right now. It's a new species. It's
Speaker 1: not just a fox that happened to come out looking
Speaker 1: like a cat. Yeah, they say it's like an ancient
Speaker 1: wild cat. Possibly, but it is a here too, four
Speaker 1: sixteen of them in Corsica. Yes, Although the first cat
Speaker 1: foxes were captured in non violently, rangers say secondhand tales
Speaker 1: of the forest animal have circulated around the island for generations.
Speaker 1: They're very cute, They're so they're a pikachi. Are they
Speaker 1: like um? Eves kind of yes, exactly. Wait, can I
Speaker 1: ask you guys a question real quick? Yeah, what would
Speaker 1: you shape shift into if you were a shape shifter?
Speaker 1: What animal? Dang, that's a good one. I I have
Speaker 1: to say. I don't know. It's probably a fox, not
Speaker 1: to be like two on the nose, but like, nothing
Speaker 1: looks cozier than a fox in hibernation. Like it just
Speaker 1: seems place to be and like creature to be. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: any hibernating animal seems chill. I'd be a whale, a whale,
Speaker 1: I'd be a whale. Go on what kind? It's just
Speaker 1: any kind of whale. I am dying to be a whale,
Speaker 1: to be honest, I mean, other than the threat to whales,
Speaker 1: the idea of experiencing like pretty much the opposite life
Speaker 1: of my life in a different realm that time, in
Speaker 1: this sperience, per I'm sure you experienced time differently. You
Speaker 1: get to live for a super long time. I'd be
Speaker 1: really bummed if I shape shifted into something like a
Speaker 1: mayfly and then it was just over for me. I
Speaker 1: couldn't go back. I died, you know, I just quantum
Speaker 1: shape shifting, quantum sting each time. I'd still want to
Speaker 1: be a whale. I'm very interested in how whales communicate.
Speaker 1: I like their family structure into it. I don't even
Speaker 1: think I think it would be like living my life
Speaker 1: similarly to now, but under the sea. What about you, Molly.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was going to say red panda, but
Speaker 1: now I'm thinking about the ocean again. Yeah, you got
Speaker 1: you open it up and you're like, wait a second, Yep, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have always wanted to live under the sea. Maybe
Speaker 1: I'll be the butt worm newly discovered newly discovered molly
Speaker 1: butt worm ancient. So we're gonna take a nightcall. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be the butt worm, but I do.
Speaker 1: I do respect all the creatures, including the But that
Speaker 1: was a quick reversal. Yeah, we got a call about
Speaker 1: going off of our conversation about alternate housing, so let's
Speaker 1: sew it up. So I was listening to you know,
Speaker 1: recent episode about the free men in the Florida Dome houses,
Speaker 1: and you should look up the island where I grew up.
Speaker 1: Sullivan's Island has some crazy houses. Um a guy he
Speaker 1: built one for himself and I think the other one
Speaker 1: was for his son or daughter. But they're supposedly Hurricane
Speaker 1: proof concrete dome houses. They're pretty crazy looking. Everyone calls
Speaker 1: them the egg houses. Ah, those are cool. And because
Speaker 1: it's right off of where all the Civil War started
Speaker 1: and all that bullshit, and there's sports. There's all like
Speaker 1: battery hills bunkers sort of that the government sold off
Speaker 1: so people own them and live in them or were
Speaker 1: Like there's one that has like a trailer plunked on top,
Speaker 1: and then this ten thousand square foot and open bunker
Speaker 1: basically just a hill that is underneath. I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on in all of them. One was a
Speaker 1: guy who was in a death metal band and gave
Speaker 1: guitar lessons from it, and I went on a tour
Speaker 1: with him and it was incredibly scary because it's I
Speaker 1: didn't know. The guy comes to my bunker sixteen year
Speaker 1: old girls, makes a very bad decisions. But crazy houses there.
Speaker 1: It's Sullivan's Island, South Carolina. The island is basically sand dunes.
Speaker 1: All that stuff is gonna be gone real soon, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: but check them out. Nice. This is Sullivan's Island in
Speaker 1: South Carolina. Um, it's a bummer. That's all these weird
Speaker 1: goofy architectural experiments. Are all in places that are going
Speaker 1: to be gone because of global Well, this one should
Speaker 1: be destroyed. You hated? No, No, it's evil and haunted.
Speaker 1: It was like the which one. Wait, there are several,
Speaker 1: but are you talking about the eye of the Storm?
Speaker 1: Which Sullivan's Island? Are we talking about the one in? Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a bad place. It was like the place
Speaker 1: they brought all the slaves to. Uh. It was described
Speaker 1: as like the Ellis Island of slavery. It was like,
Speaker 1: wait what this one was built in? Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: a it's like an egg. It looks like an egg.
Speaker 1: It looks like what am I talking about? I don't know. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's just a house. I think there are several, but
Speaker 1: I think they were built in like the nineties. Yeah, weird,
Speaker 1: Well that is what Sullivan's Island is originally. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: so this Sullivan's Island may have like a terrible history.
Speaker 1: But these houses are dope, I must say, because I'm
Speaker 1: looking at one there. Well, I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: if i'd want to live in it. And it's and
Speaker 1: it's very there. I guess like over they're super super
Speaker 1: super heavy. There's an article CNBC had an article fromen
Speaker 1: take a look inside Charleston's weirdest mansion. It's five million
Speaker 1: dollars and it's hurricane proof, which will not help when
Speaker 1: it's underwater. Yeah, that's beside the point. I like looked
Speaker 1: up Sullivan's Island because they went there on Southern Charm
Speaker 1: that takes place in Charleston, and they portrayed it as
Speaker 1: like just a beautiful vacation place to hang out. And
Speaker 1: then I looked it up and found out had all
Speaker 1: this slavery history that they didn't get into it all
Speaker 1: on the show. So probably that's a lot of the South.
Speaker 1: It is a lot of the South, Um. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know about I don't I don't know about
Speaker 1: like living in a Civil War bunker like that's that's
Speaker 1: not I don't know. I don't know if that's a
Speaker 1: lifestyle I I necessarily would be into. That's not what
Speaker 1: I want. I have seen. I saw some super weird
Speaker 1: Civil War I think era forts and stuff in Florida
Speaker 1: that we're really crazy and weird. Um, But I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody live in them. They were just in a
Speaker 1: national park. The Eye of the Storm has an elevator
Speaker 1: and a bank vault room and it's like the one
Speaker 1: that looks like an air traffic Yah. Yeah, it's the one.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how to describe it.
Speaker 1: It looks like a mushroom, kind of like a giant marshmallow.
Speaker 1: Oh maybe I'm thinking because there's another thing on Sullivan's Island.
Speaker 1: It looks like an air traffic control tower. Um that
Speaker 1: I think must be a lighthouse. Did you guys see
Speaker 1: that article that was about all the people who built
Speaker 1: their dream houses, all the boomers who built their dream
Speaker 1: houses that they can't sell now because they're so giant
Speaker 1: and expensive and weird. I did read that. Well, I
Speaker 1: I have like a real bone to pick about mc mansions,
Speaker 1: as everyone I think many people in l A have,
Speaker 1: I mean, talk about the Gilded Age. And that was
Speaker 1: actually like my favorite part of the documentary was how
Speaker 1: who was it? A Vanderbilt? And she made her like
Speaker 1: ostentatious mansion with the sculptures, and I was like, isn't
Speaker 1: it funny how You're like, wow, I'm being so crazy,
Speaker 1: and you know everyone will be so offended by the nudity,
Speaker 1: and it's like maybe people are just defended at how
Speaker 1: grossly rich you are when everyone else is poor. Maybe
Speaker 1: you just have bad taste. Yeah, but it's really I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it is interesting to see these like weird custom
Speaker 1: houses that are so gigantic and tailored to one person's
Speaker 1: particular taste, and it's like, yeah, you can't move those things.
Speaker 1: One developer, who I won't name so we don't get
Speaker 1: sued on the podcast, Uh, there's a big l A
Speaker 1: developer just got in trouble because he like put an
Speaker 1: illegal third story on his mansion to try and make
Speaker 1: it the biggest one ever. Um. And then he got
Speaker 1: in trouble and he had to do community service and
Speaker 1: he sent his bodyguard to do the community get out. Um.
Speaker 1: But they were like, you can't build a third story
Speaker 1: on this house because it will fall down the hill. Um.
Speaker 1: So I think a lot of never mind treading, like
Speaker 1: about living in a place that has a horrible history,
Speaker 1: which is I guess the other half of the Sullivan
Speaker 1: Ireland house thing. I was talking about this like this
Speaker 1: is obviously something we've talked about before with regard to
Speaker 1: haunted houses. And I was talking to somebody about like
Speaker 1: living in a in a place that you knew somebody
Speaker 1: got murdered or that some other kind of like horrible
Speaker 1: thing happened, and like trying and trying to think of
Speaker 1: it in a way like I don't know that I
Speaker 1: could do this, but it seems like an admirable kind
Speaker 1: of like way to see it, which is like you
Speaker 1: you can replace their energy with your energy if you want, Hubris,
Speaker 1: I don't know, can't you. But it's just it's all
Speaker 1: human energy, right, Like what makes one dude who lives
Speaker 1: and lived in the fifties and like killed his family
Speaker 1: a stronger person than you? I think that Mary is
Speaker 1: that he was he was possessed by a supernatural energy demise.
Speaker 1: Maybe I am too. Look, I'm just trying to find
Speaker 1: a way to buy the haunted house. But I think
Speaker 1: what we are leading towards is that we want to
Speaker 1: be put into the haunting type challenge where we have
Speaker 1: to spend the night in a haunted house, and if
Speaker 1: we spend the night successfully, we own the house and
Speaker 1: it's the Night Call House. And I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 1: I just wouldn't. You guys play so fast and loose
Speaker 1: sometimes with the satanic stuff. Yeah, it's not that we're
Speaker 1: playing fast and loose, I agree with Emily. It's that
Speaker 1: you can't just be like. I think this in general
Speaker 1: is that if you just feel like house right, if
Speaker 1: you feel like, let the bad people have America, which
Speaker 1: they obviously do right now, if you're like, there's nothing
Speaker 1: we can do about it, because it's also bad, you
Speaker 1: have to have a little It's true. It's true. This
Speaker 1: is a perfect segue for us to bring up the
Speaker 1: night called book Club. Yes, we are in the middle
Speaker 1: of right now. We have picked our second book. Um.
Speaker 1: We we announced it at the end of the last
Speaker 1: book Club podcast. But if you haven't joined our Patreon
Speaker 1: at the five dollar level one up, um, now is
Speaker 1: the time to do so. Because we are eating ghost
Speaker 1: Land and American History of Haunted Places by Colin Dickey. Uh.
Speaker 1: And it is all about haunted places, haunted houses, haunted cemeteries,
Speaker 1: haunted parks, um everything and how all America is just haunted,
Speaker 1: which is what I feel like we talked about all
Speaker 1: the time here anyway. Uh. And that I'm I'm I'm,
Speaker 1: I'm well into it now and I'm really enjoying it.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna be having a podcast are an exclusive
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Speaker 1: And we hope you can all make it awesome. We
Speaker 1: will see you soon. One other bit of housekeeping news.
Speaker 1: We will be off next week for fourth of July.
Speaker 1: It is belated because we live one week in the
Speaker 1: past here on Night Call. But we'll be back after
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