WEBVTT - AlienCon and What is a Butt? 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:08.400 It's twelve twenty two am in the Vanderbilt Palatial Mansion 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:12.160 in Old New York, and you're listening to Night Call. 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:27.680 Hi everybody, and welcome to Night Call podcast for your 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:30.760 strange days and lonely nights. I'm Molly Lambert, and here 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:33.520 with me in Los Angeles is Tess Lynch. And over 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:37.200 in New York we have Emily Oshda Old New York, 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:42.919 Old New York, New York, Old New York as opposed 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:49.040 to uh neo Tokyo or Tokyo three or we were 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:51.199 in the middle of an argument that I feel like 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:54.160 we should just like organically let continue, because Molly made 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:57.560 us watch an American experience documentary on PBS like a 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:02.400 goddamn social studies teacher in sixth grade, and uh we 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:11.080 are are now debating the value of set assign Guys, guys. 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:14.800 I was dreading watching. I can't express why. I was like, 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:18.680 Molly was like, we have to watch this PBS documentary 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:23.319 from narrated by Oliver Back. I can't give it together 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.880 enough on the Gilded Age and Emily and I think 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:30.520 asked why and Molly didn't really provide an answer, but 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.160 this did that we had to do I thought it 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.360 was interesting. She thought it was interesting. She had been 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:39.880 tweeting about it. I like all the PBS American Experienced documentaries. 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.880 I think they're the best documentary series. There's one about 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:46.479 Walt Disney and how they're good company. They're very good. 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:52.160 Some might say a little sleepy, a lot sleepy. I 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:54.880 mean it is that form. It is that like, uh, 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:57.760 you know, silent era footage of New York City with 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:03.360 sound effects. Put on a clip club and he went 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:07.800 where he could gallop, and Carnegie was galloping his horse 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.960 along the river, and it's like forty five minutes galloping horse. 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:14.680 Please you how they said his name every time the 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:18.440 historians the talking head said Carnegie. No, they also said 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.840 car No. They did not because I was like, I 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:23.560 am not going to go on the podcast and say Carnegie. 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:30.920 If everyone here's guys are coming down so hard on 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:34.440 the Gilded Age, I do not argue with the premise 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:36.960 that which I think was your intention in having us 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:40.680 watch this documentary, that we are living in the new 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:45.040 Guilded Age or a new Gilded Age, that is very apparent. 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:47.920 I think, like you know, we talked a little while 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:51.240 ago about going to Hudson Yards, and just the boom 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:55.480 in ultra luxury construction for not even the one percent, 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.440 like the point one percent that's in New York City. 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:00.679 I think New York City you tend to see that 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:04.680 on the street. Uh. And also you're like walking in 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:07.760 streets and by buildings that were built during the original 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.840 guilded age, So you have that added element of history 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:12.720 that you're kind of just like taking in all the time, 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:16.480 just ambiently. So I don't disagree, like I think, I 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:21.320 think it's important to think about these parallels um and 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:27.200 and well American experience. They sure do convey information. If anything, 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:31.279 they're good at conveying information on an American experienced documentary. 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:33.600 I think this also came out of that I was 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:37.960 tweeting about how I recorded a drunk history that didn't 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:42.440 go to air because I was so interested in the 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:46.960 boring ins and outs of details of the history itself. 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.680 What was the drunk history that you did? It was 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:55.520 Tammany Hall and Boss tweet tell them what you drank? Uh, 0:03:56.000 --> 0:04:00.240 Nicki Minaj's Muscado, There we go and then you fum 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.520 at the end of what Molly drank. Everybody was like, 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.760 why are you doing drunk history? Like you don't drink. 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:09.880 That was a response I got from everybody I told 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:11.960 I was doing it. I was like, good, good call. 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:14.960 I guess we'll see. And then I tried to drink 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.160 train a little bit like leading up to it, but 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:20.360 having like a beer at night, because I don't usually 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:25.320 drink very much. Just it's not for Yeah, it's not 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:28.360 for me. But yes, So I didn't know that muscato 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:31.039 didn't have like any alcohol in it. So, but you 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:35.640 drank mostly that the whole bottle. Yeah, I drank the 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:37.840 bottle of moscato. And then I drank like a like 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:41.680 a tumbler of whiskey. Yeah, tumbling and then and then 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:44.560 a tequila shot. Am I wrong? Maybe? And then I 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:47.240 was just like, now I have to just not throw 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:49.839 upon myself. But I learned something about myself, which is 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:53.400 like my desire to be on television was not as 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.600 great as my desire to not throw up on myself 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:58.520 on television, you know, because I was like, I don't 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.360 want to be that person in the commercial reel that's 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:05.200 just vomiting. I think that is the real difficulty of 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:11.560 doing drunk history. I love doing favorite, I love it. 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:13.400 I love to do it, but it's but I have 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:16.560 never not been afraid of throwing up. But I also 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.440 you know, the first time I did it, I was 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:22.760 a little bit more Devil may Care in my drinking, 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:26.840 and then in subsequent turns, I was like, Okay, I 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:29.440 know what I can drink and the my limits, and 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.480 they have you know, medical staff there, which is nice. 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:35.680 Do you also like the sort of Lisa Simpson nous 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:37.760 of like being given a history lesson that you have 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.479 to learn? Oh? I love it? Okay, So I love 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.839 it so much. Bring that to the Gilded Age. Okay, 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:47.400 here's my thing about the Gilded Age. So I will 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:50.040 just say right off the bat, I tried three different 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:53.560 times to finish this documentary can fail, but I did 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:56.400 get pretty deep into it. But I like how none 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:58.880 of us got to the part where then they figure 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:00.919 out how to fight back, and like it becomes the 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:05.880 progressive era, right I got. I got through Henry George 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:12.320 running for what Henry George? What a cool guy who 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.120 doesn't know? Okay, Well, the thing I liked about the 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.080 Skillad Age documentary was it was like the beginning of 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:21.760 a club. Because I also liked the clip clop. I 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:25.039 believe just that it was like about the the Industrial 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:29.000 Age being the beginning of like the partnership between uh 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:34.920 politics and industry of like businesses buying off politicians, and 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.560 it's like, oh, this is something that like the history 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:41.600 of it isn't even that old actually, you know, and 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:45.040 like people already got super mad about it once and 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:47.960 forced it to be reformed. Um, but it just seemed 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.200 so much like tech tech stuff. It was so much 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:54.560 like the yea, some idiot like you know, put his 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:59.040 money in an old timey bitcoin and like became a billionaire. 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.080 And then everybody y else put their money an old 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:03.400 timey bitcoin and went broke, and they were like, oh, 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.520 you must not have wanted it badly enough, right, I mean, 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:09.080 I think I think there are a couple of interesting 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.120 things that I remember from the first part of it, 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:17.520 which was like going into Andrew Carnegie's origin and how 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:21.480 he really did come from nothing in Scotland, was poor 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:23.800 and you know, just had a you know, good at 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:27.080 business acumen and noticed that people were going to be 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:29.880 needing steel a lot in the next century and so 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:33.200 got into that business, which is like fine and was 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.440 literally a self made man. But the degree to which 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:39.720 that became the story that everybody else wanted to tell 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:44.080 about themselves, regardless of whether or not that was their 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.960 actual story. I think that created this like kind of 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:50.880 toxic or myth of like American capitalism. Yes, it's like 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:54.840 the toxic individualism, which is like each person is a 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:58.400 business that will like learn to succeed and to stop 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.640 you from if you don't succeed, it's just that you 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:04.120 didn't have the will right well. And also, like I 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.280 think the other interesting thing that was noted by somebody 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.720 on there is that this is a time when the 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:12.520 ratio of people who were employees, like people who just 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:16.400 depended on other people for an income, became so huge, 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.480 like you know, per capita um in a way that 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:20.960 had never been before, and we just kind of take 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.600 for granted now that's how everybody, like everybody's an employee 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:29.160 mostly um, unless they're a freelancer. But I really liked 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:32.160 that article. Is the article from the All that somebody 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.520 put in my timeline about Pixar movies being in a 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.439 theory of labor about Pixar movies. Oh, I saw that, 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:41.520 I mean the All. It's it's interesting how often made 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:43.640 me miss the All this year. I feel like I've 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:46.800 come across. UM so many things from the All that 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.400 have been so timely. I miss the All more than 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:51.360 any other website. But yeah, I was kind of about 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.319 like how Pixar movies are all about like getting a job, 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:59.200 keeping that job. Um, and you have Pixar movies, right, Yeah, 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:04.400 your job is zero identity. And in the case of 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:08.760 a bad Bird movie, uh, you're the best and nobody 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.040 else can do it and you and you're the best, 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:15.360 then you deserve everything. You become the uber rat, yeah, 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:20.040 the uber Um. While we're on the subject of animation, 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:23.920 I'm gonna let you guys free of the Gilded Age. 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.000 You're free, We're not free of the Gilded Age? Is 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:30.840 the act? Like you had more to say, I'm not free. Yeah, 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:33.840 but I'm gonna loop back just really quickly to say 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:37.520 that I found an article refuting that we can say 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.280 that we are uniquely in a second Gilded Age. It 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:45.960 was on Fox. Um, but they you know, the no 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:51.280 Fox but please, I'm not that guy. But people have 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:56.600 been calling the current time Fox recognized their union. Oh god, please, 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:58.960 I know, I know, I mean that's the other Maybe 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:02.760 that's why they're like, it's at a gilded age. Everything's fine. 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:08.120 They did, they did recognize the union. The now BuzzFeed yeah, 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.840 buzz oh my god, buzzed. And I think it is 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:12.720 funny to be like, I feel like we've all done 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.960 jokes about being like coal miners and steel workers, but 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:19.160 it is like we are the steel workers in what 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:23.319 about Come get my my printed out notes. But the 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:27.320 junk bonds of the eighties, the internet bubbles of the nineties, 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:32.840 the collateralized debt obligation addies to the top one percent tens, 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:37.520 It's like there is we've always we've always been. You 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:39.880 can't say that like right now where you were more 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.839 uniquely in a gilded age. I think the stratification of 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:46.199 wealth is the one thing that's There's always been some 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:49.640 kind of bubble going on in any given decade, something 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:53.600 that is gilded in either economically or culturally or something else. 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.400 But I think I think that the thing that makes 0:10:56.600 --> 0:11:02.200 now feel particularly analogous to the Gilded Age is the well, 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:05.840 the disparity in in wealth, like the extremes, Like we're 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:10.520 not talking about mirrors, mirrors any there's no middle class. Yeah, right, 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.640 But I agree that maybe the idea that like I 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.120 just I felt like a lot of the American ideals 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:20.680 were established in the Gilded Age that are all bad 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:24.280 things we should stop doing. I totally no disagreement there, 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:26.840 but I mean I also think of like American Sitco 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.160 and Bonfire, the vanities like New York in the eighties 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:33.720 as being like Prime. You point out, yeah, Wall Street, 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:37.959 which I've never seen done, You're done and done. Okay, now, 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:41.440 well now we can let go of this. Well, on 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.400 the subject of animation, I just wanted to briefly do 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:51.840 a Emily's Anime podcast. Uh. Yeah, Well, I have bad 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:53.880 news for everybody, which is that I haven't acted well. 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:58.680 I watched fifteen minutes of the new Netflix um HD 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:04.360 remaster of Neon Genesis Evan Galion, which came out on Friday, 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:07.920 the twenty one of June. I was excited. I was 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.160 already in the middle of a rewatch of it, so 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:13.120 I was like, oh, I'll just continue watching it on Netflix, 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:17.120 which I love. Then uh, like fill in the blank, 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:21.480 crappy illegal anime stream site that I have been using. 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:25.839 But then I started to see just some rumblings online 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.480 from people who I guess like bravely forged through and 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.800 binged it. Within twenty four hours of it being on Netflix, 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:35.200 because this was all happening like that Friday. UM, just 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.640 about some of the stuff that they did to the 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:39.959 storyline and some of the characters and some of the 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:43.360 questionable re translations because it was so they did a 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:45.560 new dub, which is fine. I don't care. I don't 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:47.400 watch the dub. I know that. Like people like the 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:51.080 original dub of of um neon Genes Galian, and I 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:53.280 am not one of those people who have really watched 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:54.560 it all the way. I mean, I've watched a little 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:57.240 bit of It's fine. I really love the voice actors 0:12:57.240 --> 0:13:00.120 in the Japanese one, so I prefer that. Uh it 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.680 So people didn't like the new dub. That didn't affect me. 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:05.120 I was going to watch it anyway. But then I 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:09.079 think a lot of this translation. Um, I think there 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.080 are parts where they did try to make it more natural, 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:13.160 but then there are parts where they like, I don't know, 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:17.840 I tried to eliminate some gay subtext with some characters 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.440 and other little things that seems sort of unnecessary and 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:22.480 weird and questionable. So I was just like, I'm just 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:26.000 gonna keep watching it on my sheep streaming site. So um, 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:30.080 that is but then I said that I tweeted that, 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:33.200 and then like people were DM me me, like send 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:37.760 me the link, like what do you watch? Um? But 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.679 I'm always happy to introduce people to that show because 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.640 it's it's again, it's like the Guild and Age. It's 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:46.800 something that makes you think a lot about now uh 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:51.320 and get real depressed. So yeah, all right. I saw 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.319 one tweet I really liked that was somebody doing a 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:57.760 joke about Hank Hill from King of the Hill pronouncing 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:02.880 Neon Genesis seven gallion and over again. Well. Also, the 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:07.199 other main like the imprinted made on American culture was 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.960 in the movie One Hour Photo with Robin Williams where 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:12.480 he like stopped some kid and the toy aisle who's 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:17.040 buying an even Gillian like action figure um and says, 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:22.560 oh wow, Neon Genesis see Van Gillion. I remember that 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:28.360 because that movie is awesome photos in theaters. I have 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.800 seen it twice since what if. I don't think I 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:34.160 could ever watch it again, but it's a very disturbing movie, 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:38.680 so of course I right, yeah, I mean, and also 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:47.400 like scary Robin Williams, I forced other people to watch 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.960 that movie. And then I'm always kind of shamed for it, 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:53.120 but I feel it's a very It's an intense movie. 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.880 I got to see the intense movies. Speaking of which 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.000 Molly and I will be seeing an intense movie this 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:03.120 evening to report on next week. Midstem so excited. UM 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:17.440 yeh as the sweet say. The bone spikes guys that 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:21.960 we talked about last weeks important updates. So in the 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:25.600 days following the initial reporting on the spikes that were 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:27.240 growing at the back of our skulls because we look 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:30.440 at our phones too much that was reported, we cited 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:33.480 the BBC article I think the New York Times and 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:37.760 others I think, including Gizmoto, uh interviewed some people, some 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:43.280 doctors who cast some doubt on the original study. UM. 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.480 When the New York Times weighed in, they said that 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.800 the they interviewed a doctor who said that his issues 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.960 with the study were that, UM, the people who had 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:55.040 the bone spikes who were being kind of studied, were 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:58.320 already complaining of neck pain. There was no control group. 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.880 It wasn't like they were contrasting people who were using 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:04.120 their phones a lot to people who weren't. It was 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:07.480 like a totally is not a scientifically sound study. And 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.880 also the way that it was framed as like we're 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:14.560 growing scary spikes on our heads is not really what's 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:18.120 going on. So guys are so chill about this. I'm 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:21.440 chill about it. And you know, initially I was like, 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:26.320 so what now we're getting you know, our bodies are adapting. Also, 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:29.440 they've been standing to anything we've ever done as humans 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:32.720 where we're looking down, like if we're doing needle point, 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:37.840 we're probably exactly you know, like that. You guys are like, oh, 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:41.280 it's a it's a knitter's hump. It's fine. No, it's 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:45.160 not fine. I mean before that it would have been 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:50.120 like a wheat would thrashing. Uh, better ways to get 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.920 a next spike? Been looking at your phone, You're just 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.080 looking down. It's a looking down. It's not coming at 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:58.240 you from like, it's not like you're getting it's not 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:00.560 like it's growing because of like radiation from your phone 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:02.680 or something like brain cancer from your phone is a 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:05.040 more of a concern, I would say than the bones. Well, 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:09.120 there's a lot of things about that at the UFO conference. Really, 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:12.720 I'm so excited to talk about that. Boy well, I 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:15.360 mean yeah, liz La Pato, my former co host at 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:18.600 virgsp who's the science editor at The Verge. She was 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:22.320 tweeting about this. Also just like you know, this is 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:24.879 not a new phenomenon. This is like a thing that 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.360 people have known about, except now they can also correlate 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:30.480 it to phone you supposedly, but also as you say, 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:32.879 like the study was not the most thorough thing in 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:34.760 the world, this is also the thing. This is what 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.360 I'm talking about with Life Science, like and I guess 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.720 it's sort of ironic that the sources this time are 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:44.119 like the BBC and UH and Washington Post and stuff 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.160 like that, like the people who reported on it, but 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.199 but looking at a study and not being able to 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:51.120 look at it critically, not saying that I could. I'm 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:53.359 not that kind of reporter, but a lot of people 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:57.520 don't when they report these freaky sounding studies. That's why 0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:59.760 Life Science is the only outlet we trust here. And 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.680 I hey, speaking of Live Science, you guys, we got 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:06.960 a really good Live Science tidbit, which is the seaworm 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:11.320 with butt eyes. So our favorite factually sound website, Live 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:15.240 Science reported on a new species of seaworm discovered off 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:17.720 the coast of Scotland this month, and it has eyes 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:23.760 on it's but its name is the amphory. Give me 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:29.919 a minute. Oculus Oculus serrata. It's about as wide as 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:33.160 a pencil eraser. It has tentacles by its mouth, as 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:37.440 many seaworms do, but unlike other seaworms, it has eyes 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:42.480 on its butt. I think like the worm of the shirt. 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:50.520 That's like, my eyes are down here, I hope, so 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:56.439 nice one. It's transparent looking. Also, it's cute. It's I 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:58.520 don't know if cute's the word I would use. Well, 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:01.320 it's also like what same interesting? I was gonna say, 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:03.959 what qualifies a butt? But that I thought about it 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:08.080 for like one second. You know what qualifies? But the 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:16.280 things that worm has seen? Well, we should take a 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.600 night call because we've had one for a couple of 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:20.600 weeks that we wanted to be able to spend some 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:27.080 time talking about. So let's bring it up. So I've 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:31.520 heard that some scientists have made mechanical and digital basically 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:37.280 probability machines that measure just the randomness generated in an area, 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:42.879 and have found that in certain areas the probability actually 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:47.600 changes um things become less random. So I listened to 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:52.919 a podcast once that talked about how the on a 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:57.639 wavelength function. The possibility of something quantum tunneling to be 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:02.200 pretty much measured, and it isn't just from the micro 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:06.199 scale or quantum scale, but theoretically scales up to the 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:11.520 macro scale human sized. So I've always had a a 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:15.720 conspiracy theory related to the disappearances that they've seen at 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:21.120 national parks. I always wondered if there was some possibility 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:26.440 that the probability of randomness and these these parks are 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:30.919 a little bit more possible and as a result, people 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:36.600 are accidentally quantum tunneling into parallel universes or you know, 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:42.679 just uttered fee underground. Given that there's a possibility for it, 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:46.879 it's a non zero sum. That means theoretically it can happen, 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:53.080 not super lately, but non a non zero amount. So 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:54.879 I just want to see what you guys thought about that. 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:57.520 Look forward to hearing more from your podcast. Thank you. 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:01.920 Let's just call it quantum leap mm hm, well, thank 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:05.320 you very much for that call. Uh really gave us 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:11.160 something to think about and do our own research on um. 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:14.000 I did not know about these disappearances, but there have 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:17.520 been something like one thousand, one hundred in let me 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:20.200 look at I had that there's an article at Vice 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:24.720 from seventeen that sites the Outside magazine for a sixteen 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:31.880 hundred Yeah, sixteen hundred within the history of the parks. 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:34.320 It's complicated, but there have been let's say, like over 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:38.200 a thousand disappearances on national park lands. But it becomes 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:43.760 more complicated because there is a conspiracy theorist who is 0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:48.160 collecting some data that is then being used. So right, yeah, yeah, 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:52.359 I think that his is it David Paulides, Yes, it is. Okay, 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:58.040 So I had no idea about this um. I think 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:01.040 that there was a there's a How Stuff Works article 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:07.400 about this um. But the quantum, the quantum randomness thing 0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:09.760 is interesting. I mean, I don't know that much about 0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:13.120 like how quantum randomness works, but I would I would 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:14.840 think it would be sort of interesting to think about 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:18.159 that being more likely in a place like, uh a 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:21.400 national park that's been preserved that, you know, where there 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:24.800 is not as much human activity. I'll tell you what 0:22:24.880 --> 0:22:27.920 I like about this theory. First of all, I don't 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:30.720 believe in it. Sure, I want to say that, Yeah, 0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:32.760 I don't believe in it. I think people disappear in 0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:37.760 national parks because they're so big. People disappear in Angela's 0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:40.680 forest near me all the time because it's a giant. 0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:43.760 I mean, it's also amazing and awesome that there are 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:47.920 places that are like that you can disappear so yeah yeah, um, 0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:50.600 and that they're so close to you know, other things. 0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:54.720 But I like this theory because it is like a 0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:58.320 picnic at hanging rock theory. Well, I like the idea. 0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:01.719 It feels very twin peaks to be like suddenly like 0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:06.840 wink your underground, like um, you're just and you're there, 0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:10.520 and it's like just a clean jump down to this 0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:14.960 other reality. Yeah, this is it's weird because so it 0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:18.200 is a popular conspiracy theory as far as I can 0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:23.760 tell in this very niche circle. David Paulites fans. I mean, well, 0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:26.280 first of all, when we got this call, we intended 0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:30.080 to answer it last week. But I think quantum randomness 0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:33.159 it breaks my brain. And I'm sure that that's not 0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:37.720 a totally uncommon feeling when you're trying to understand quantum 0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:43.200 physics a lot of really advanced science. It's interating, yes, 0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:46.600 but it's also like some of it sounds so insane 0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:49.960 that you're like, how is that Reality's that's what's so cool? 0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:53.800 I mean it's when you start thinking about quantum randomness 0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:56.000 as having to do with sub atomic particles, all of 0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:58.520 a sudden, your your brain kind of walks out the door, 0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:01.359 you know, and doesn't want to hear anymore about that. 0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:05.440 Brands want to hear more. We someone who really understands 0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:07.960 it to explain it. What if I find a great 0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:12.240 PBS documentary or you could go to ask a mathematician 0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:14.719 dot com if you wanted to learn a little bit 0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:18.639 about it, like a Brian greenbook or something which I 0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:22.720 did and have since lost. Like, but I mean, it's 0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:24.840 it's hard to retain because you can't apply it to 0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:28.399 many things. So you come across the articles about that 0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:32.959 disappearing national parks. The problem with with the quantum mechanics 0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:37.119