Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is my trusted colleague. Wes
Speaker 1: hodkuwits for coming to you here from our studios at
Speaker 1: lambeau Field West. We got an opportunity to watch an
Speaker 1: o t A practice earlier this week, the one that
Speaker 1: was open to the media and the public. We also
Speaker 1: got to hear from players in the locker room and
Speaker 1: from the defensive and Special teams assistant coaches. And I
Speaker 1: want to start with this. We don't normally start a
Speaker 1: show with something that an assistant coach says on this show,
Speaker 1: but if there is one thing to take away from
Speaker 1: that availability with the defensive assistant coaches, it's that outside
Speaker 1: linebackers coach Mike Smith could not be more fired up
Speaker 1: about Rashaan Gary being in his room with his guys.
Speaker 1: You know what it reminds me of I remember as
Speaker 1: a kid, right, you have a Christmas morning Santa puts
Speaker 1: out all the presents. I remember there was this one
Speaker 1: year where I think I had said I wanted like
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was like a cactus Jack
Speaker 1: or Mick Foley like figurine type deal. For like WWF
Speaker 1: and I really wanted this thing. It was like a
Speaker 1: three different figurines and I got it and as soon
Speaker 1: as I got done, I didn't even touch the other presence.
Speaker 1: I got done with this box, I ripped it open,
Speaker 1: ran downstairs and played with it. Numind I was like
Speaker 1: ten years old at the time, so give me a
Speaker 1: break here. But I was like ten years old and
Speaker 1: I I just sprinted. Did that not seem to you?
Speaker 1: Like what Mike smith did the night that they drafted
Speaker 1: Rashawn Gary. He actually made a comment that he like
Speaker 1: was running up and down the hallway, which I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if it was too much of an exaggeration. He's
Speaker 1: he's really really excited about the fact that the Packers
Speaker 1: drafted Rashaan Gary at number twelve overall and that he's
Speaker 1: going to get a chance to coach this guy. And
Speaker 1: everybody always says they like their guy, their guys always
Speaker 1: the number one player in the position their draft. But
Speaker 1: Mike Smith Man listen to him talk, I believe it.
Speaker 1: I mean this guy, I mean, I'm a non athlete here,
Speaker 1: five ft nothing, hundred and nothing. I wanted to run
Speaker 1: through a wall for the guy. By the time he
Speaker 1: got done talking, he was fired up, and he's excited
Speaker 1: about Sadarius Smith, Preston Smith, all of the resources they've
Speaker 1: added into that room. But as he said, when he
Speaker 1: looks at Gary, he doesn't care what the pundits say.
Speaker 1: He's not paying attention to who's writing what about these prospects.
Speaker 1: He's just looking at them at face value. And he
Speaker 1: said afterwards, with all the criticism that Gary received for
Speaker 1: his motor, how much you know, taking plays off at Michigan,
Speaker 1: He's like, you go and find anybody at the University
Speaker 1: of Michigan that said that. He's like, trust me, I
Speaker 1: talked to him, all, you're not going to find anyone
Speaker 1: they believe in the kid. Yeah, he didn't get as
Speaker 1: many sacks as maybe people want for a top you know, ten,
Speaker 1: top pick. But as Smith said, he's like, I'm not
Speaker 1: as interested in that as as much of him affecting games,
Speaker 1: affecting plays, and that's something he did at Michigan. He
Speaker 1: made people around him better. Yeah, I mean that was
Speaker 1: the thing we heard in a very general sense from
Speaker 1: Mike Smith throughout his discussion with the media as he
Speaker 1: talked about affecting the quarterback and there are all kinds
Speaker 1: of different ways to measure it. I know you and
Speaker 1: I had talked about it when the Packers signs Darius
Speaker 1: Smith and Preston Smith. Neither one of these guys is
Speaker 1: a double digit sacker, you know, doesn't have fifty sacks
Speaker 1: in his career anything like that. But when you look
Speaker 1: at some of the other metrics that are used by
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus and other websites and other analysts out there,
Speaker 1: when you talk about pressures and the times that a
Speaker 1: quarterback is affected by a certain individual individual, it's guys
Speaker 1: like the Smiths who ranked pretty high across the league
Speaker 1: in that even if they didn't ultimately get the sacks.
Speaker 1: Where Shawn Gary by all accounts that it sounds like
Speaker 1: it sounds like he had a very similar type of
Speaker 1: career at Michigan, but also in the sense that there's
Speaker 1: a lot of film that shows him being double teamed
Speaker 1: and whatnot, you know, freeing up his teammates to to
Speaker 1: do things. I don't see Rashan Gary as a rookie
Speaker 1: in the NFL getting double team So if he's single blocked, okay,
Speaker 1: let's see what happens here. And Mike Smith's biggest point
Speaker 1: at the end of it was if I've got a
Speaker 1: bunch of guys in that room that are all worried
Speaker 1: about how many sacks they're gonna have, they're gonna be
Speaker 1: really disappointed football players because it's hard to get him
Speaker 1: in the NFL. The way they're going to be evaluated
Speaker 1: is how they affect the quarterback. And he's excited about
Speaker 1: the group he has. Yeah, And one thing I thought
Speaker 1: was really interesting too that he pointed out he looked
Speaker 1: at de Ford and Justin Houston to Pro Bowl pass rushers,
Speaker 1: edge rushers, outside linebackers that he had his book ends
Speaker 1: in Kansas City, his time in Kansas City, and he mentioned,
Speaker 1: you know, when you look at the getoff that Ford
Speaker 1: had and just the pure power that Houston had, he
Speaker 1: sees both of those trades in Gary. And another thing
Speaker 1: he mentioned as well, when people want to talk about
Speaker 1: the sack numbers at Michigan, they had him playing with
Speaker 1: his hand in the dirt is a six It's really
Speaker 1: difficult to get pressure on the quarterback as a five TECH.
Speaker 1: That a five tech you're already on the outside shoulder,
Speaker 1: you know, basically lined up with the tackle. Six tech
Speaker 1: you're even wider as a defensive alignment in terms of
Speaker 1: what his assignments are there. He's not just an edge
Speaker 1: rusher in a two point stance, just jet rushing towards
Speaker 1: the quarterback. There are assignments that go along with that.
Speaker 1: He said that that also factored in in Green Bay,
Speaker 1: as I believe it was. Also it was either Smith
Speaker 1: or it was Jerry Montgomery had mentioned, you know, they're
Speaker 1: already in some of these practices, Zadarius Smith and in
Speaker 1: Rashaun Gary, they're working with the defensive alignemen and some
Speaker 1: of these drills, uh, these positional drills. They're trying to
Speaker 1: cross train these guys and working together to make sure
Speaker 1: that yeah, they're good on their stunts, but also so
Speaker 1: that when Zadarius Smith has to go inside or when
Speaker 1: Gary's going to go inside, those guys can you know,
Speaker 1: fit the bill and those one and three techniques and
Speaker 1: sub packages. So it's a very interesting blend of talent
Speaker 1: that they had. I think the biggest change that you've
Speaker 1: seen from last year this year. Claim Matthews was very versatile.
Speaker 1: Claim Matthews wasn't gonna play one tech nos in a
Speaker 1: dime package. Nick Perry did a little of it, but
Speaker 1: in the in the end he was mostly an outside guy.
Speaker 1: Both of the Smiths Gary they're gonna move around, They're
Speaker 1: going to use these guys in different ways, and as
Speaker 1: Mike Smith said, they're gonna have four outside linebackers on
Speaker 1: the field again. Packers at times last year didn't have
Speaker 1: four outside linebackers on the fifty three man roster. So
Speaker 1: I just think it's a it's a new day for
Speaker 1: the defensive line. There's an energy there in Mike smith Man.
Speaker 1: We've only had two interactions with them so far in
Speaker 1: the media, but this is the type of guy that
Speaker 1: I think i'd want to play for. Well, this is
Speaker 1: another interesting thing I'm gonna throw out there too, because,
Speaker 1: as you know, about a week ago, I got a
Speaker 1: one on one interview with Mike Petton for a Packers
Speaker 1: yearbook story that I'm working on that will be published
Speaker 1: in the Packers Yearbook later this summer, and just going
Speaker 1: over different things, different position groups, all the change that's
Speaker 1: going on on the defense, and completely unprompted, Mike Petton
Speaker 1: said he called Mike Smith the best outside linebackers coach
Speaker 1: in this league. Now, he wasn't as animated about it
Speaker 1: as Mike Smith was at the podium talking about Rashaan Gary.
Speaker 1: But Mike Petton's been around the block. This this is
Speaker 1: not his first rodeo, and I sense just from that
Speaker 1: comment how excited he is as a defensive coordinator that
Speaker 1: a guy that played for him and a guy that
Speaker 1: he knows as well as he does and has followed
Speaker 1: Mike Smith's coaching career, even if they haven't worked together
Speaker 1: at every stop, that this is the guy that's coaching
Speaker 1: his outside linebackers in this defense. There is definitely, uh,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a palpable excitement to how this is
Speaker 1: starting to come together. And the other thing you have
Speaker 1: to take in consideration too, I mean, the proof is
Speaker 1: in the pudding when you look at some of the
Speaker 1: guys that Smith has developed Kansas City. I know they
Speaker 1: had their ups and downs as an overall defense these
Speaker 1: past few years, but they've had so many young pass
Speaker 1: rushers emerge underneath him, and before that during his time
Speaker 1: with the New York Giant New York Jets being able
Speaker 1: to have the success that they did. So oh, I
Speaker 1: just think it's a new day. I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot of excitement and anticipation that you know, whether it
Speaker 1: is you know, we Shan Garry. We're not expecting him
Speaker 1: to come out and have fifteen sacks out of the gate,
Speaker 1: but as he develops and having Kyler Faco coming back
Speaker 1: after ten sacks. They were both both Petton and Smith
Speaker 1: were reffusive in their praise of of Gilbert, Reggie Gilbert
Speaker 1: and being assignment. Sure, there's five guys there now in
Speaker 1: addition to some you know, returning players, that all are
Speaker 1: going to be competing for snaps in there, and the
Speaker 1: figure that that rotation gets, the fresher that guys get,
Speaker 1: and the more that you can do with them in
Speaker 1: the third and fourth quarter. Yeah, Well, staying on the
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, and speaking of competition, one
Speaker 1: of the things that we had discussed in our O
Speaker 1: t A preview was was how things we're gonna look
Speaker 1: at the safety position. Darnell Savage is indeed with the
Speaker 1: number one defense right from the get go. He's paired
Speaker 1: with Adrian Amos when the ones are out there, it
Speaker 1: is those two guys. But the other thing that's interesting
Speaker 1: here West because as we had mentioned, Josh Jones is
Speaker 1: not at O t A s there are reports that
Speaker 1: he's potentially requesting a trade. We'll see what happens as
Speaker 1: the rest of the spring goes along. We get to
Speaker 1: the mandatory mini camp when all players are required to
Speaker 1: be here later in June. But in Josh jones absence,
Speaker 1: you talk about opportunity knocking on the door. Raven Green, Um,
Speaker 1: this is the guy coming off of an injury last year.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't know he missed a bunch of time with injury,
Speaker 1: just based on physically like how he looks. And then
Speaker 1: another young guy, Natrelle Jamerson, who came out of the
Speaker 1: University Wisconsin, has bounced around to some different teams and
Speaker 1: bounced around between cornerback and safety. He's also now getting
Speaker 1: a look at safety with Josh Jones not being around.
Speaker 1: So Um, there's definitely even though Amos and Savage they're
Speaker 1: your they're your top pair, there's some legitimate competition in
Speaker 1: that safety group for playing time. And Mike Petton said too,
Speaker 1: I mean safeties are still going to be in play
Speaker 1: at that inside linebacker position as well. I think if
Speaker 1: they had their druthers, you're gonna have quit, i should say,
Speaker 1: or in Burke settling in there. Yeah, but they still
Speaker 1: need that hyper tendencies and some of these guys also
Speaker 1: work the slot as well, So you need to have
Speaker 1: a really good core of four and sometimes more at
Speaker 1: that safety position. Jamerson and I think is one of
Speaker 1: those guys that fits into what Jason Simmons, the defensive
Speaker 1: backs coach, was talking about. There's no qualifications, no position
Speaker 1: listed on him. They just want to get these guys
Speaker 1: out there, give them the most opportunities they can. If
Speaker 1: Josh Jones isn't here, that's gonna open up reps in
Speaker 1: that second team defense. It's gonna open up and really
Speaker 1: afford Darnell Savage the majority of the reps next to
Speaker 1: Amos who those two guys are being viewed as the
Speaker 1: cornerstones now for this defense and providing stability there. But
Speaker 1: getting back to Raven green Man, I mean that reminds
Speaker 1: me of a young Mike Spofford on the campus of
Speaker 1: Lawrence University. Shot, got the sleeves up, the guns are out,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of just putting out a vibe. I mean,
Speaker 1: as I wrote an inbox, that's a young man that
Speaker 1: did not take his offseason lightly. I mean he went
Speaker 1: and put in some work. He did finish last year
Speaker 1: on injured reserve, but he did some really good things
Speaker 1: to make this roster as an undrafted rookie and to
Speaker 1: be able to also contribute the way he did on
Speaker 1: special teams. The Packers like him. I mean, coming out
Speaker 1: of James Madison, he didn't have a whole lot of buzz.
Speaker 1: He was viewed as one of those kind of diamonds
Speaker 1: in the rough type player. But they've had success finding
Speaker 1: those guys in the undrafted ranks that have been able
Speaker 1: to contribute on special teams and at the safety position,
Speaker 1: and right now, with the way that that depth chart looks,
Speaker 1: the positions there for him to really, you know, solidify
Speaker 1: himself in that number three role on the back end. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you mentioned special teams and that's the point I was
Speaker 1: going to make as well. When you're talking about these
Speaker 1: guys who are getting their reps in the eleven on
Speaker 1: eleven and the practices we watch when we see them
Speaker 1: getting reps with the twos and the threes, especially the
Speaker 1: guys who are with the two's, if that's where they
Speaker 1: are on the depth chart right now, then it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: those are the ones you make the note of and
Speaker 1: go Okay, when the preseason games roll around, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be watching punt return, punt coverage, kickoff return, kickoff coverage.
Speaker 1: Because if those guys who are with the two's are
Speaker 1: also making a name for themselves on special teams and
Speaker 1: getting noticed there, those are the guy eyes who are
Speaker 1: gonna make the fifty three. We've seen, We've seen it
Speaker 1: every year. They might not get a snap with the
Speaker 1: number one defense or the number one offense all training
Speaker 1: camp or even in any preseason game, but if they're
Speaker 1: making plays on special teams in the preseason and they're
Speaker 1: holding onto the number two spot at their at their
Speaker 1: position with the second unit, those are the guys. Those
Speaker 1: are the guys who make the fifty three, and they're
Speaker 1: the guys that the coaching staff is counting on to
Speaker 1: be impact players on special teams and to be able
Speaker 1: to step in when somebody goes down. And one of
Speaker 1: the things people always ask, especially in the days leading
Speaker 1: up to final cuts and that last preseason game, is Okay,
Speaker 1: who's in and who's out, who's on the bubble. There
Speaker 1: is one litmus test for you to be able to
Speaker 1: figure that out, and it's how specifically that I've always
Speaker 1: the thing I've always used is how their kickoff coverage
Speaker 1: unit looks, How their kickoff returning unit. Looks who's on
Speaker 1: those number one teams. That's where we started to get
Speaker 1: a hint that, yeah, James Crawford really has a chance
Speaker 1: of this thing. Yeah, a guy that showed up two
Speaker 1: weeks into training camp and all of a sudden, the
Speaker 1: last preseason game, he's on all the number one special
Speaker 1: teams units. He's making a bunch of plays, and you
Speaker 1: and I are looking at each other in the press box, going, hey,
Speaker 1: when this guy showed up, we didn't even give him
Speaker 1: a second thought because it was September eight or September ten,
Speaker 1: I mean sorry, August August eight, August tenth, whatever day
Speaker 1: it was that he showed up all of a sudden
Speaker 1: at the last preseason game. We're looking at each other going,
Speaker 1: this guy's got a legitimate chance to make the teams
Speaker 1: the one per center because there's so many guys that
Speaker 1: get added after training camp starts. And to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, Michael, I can only think of to him
Speaker 1: and Chris Band. Chris absolutely, But getting back to that
Speaker 1: point I was making about special teams, and I know
Speaker 1: this will bring up some bad memories for Packers fan.
Speaker 1: But Brandon Bostick in two thousand fourteen, d J. Williams
Speaker 1: was the number one guy in the little posse on
Speaker 1: that kickoff return unit, and then suddenly Brandon Bostick one
Speaker 1: day at practice overtook him. Bostick made the fifty three
Speaker 1: Williams didn't. So that's the thing to track. I mean,
Speaker 1: there is some validation to what you see on the
Speaker 1: field when you get to training camp. So whether or
Speaker 1: not it's a Raven Green or James Crawford, when those
Speaker 1: guys start to get that work, especially late into the summer,
Speaker 1: that's when you can start to feel not necessarily good,
Speaker 1: but start to get an idea of you know what,
Speaker 1: I have a real chance making this thing happen. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: it's definitely something that we watch, you know, right from
Speaker 1: the get go and training camp when the pads go on.
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Speaker 1: get this right. I don't anything to be inaccurate. That
Speaker 1: was two thousand thirteen, not two thousand fourteen when Bostick
Speaker 1: overtook d J Williams. Yes, d J Williams was what
Speaker 1: did not make the team in Well, we're all about
Speaker 1: accuracy here on Packerson's We do our best we and
Speaker 1: we know people will call us that when we're wrong,
Speaker 1: so so yeah, we definitely try to stay on top
Speaker 1: of that. Shifting gears quickly was to the offensive side
Speaker 1: of the ball. We did hear from quarterback Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: at his locker after that open practice earlier this week,
Speaker 1: and he was asked a lot of questions, obviously about
Speaker 1: learning and processing the new offense and how's it going,
Speaker 1: and he's reserving a lot of judgment, you know, as
Speaker 1: far as eleven on eleven type stuff. They had a
Speaker 1: couple of days of a veteran minicamp before the draft.
Speaker 1: There just a couple of days into O T A S.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna draw any grand conclusions, but he did
Speaker 1: say he's sort of laying it out there for himself
Speaker 1: that by the end of these O t A s
Speaker 1: and then that mandatory mini camp in the middle of June,
Speaker 1: he wants to be at a certain comfort level with
Speaker 1: this offense so that he can come back in training
Speaker 1: camp and just be in a very different place. Now
Speaker 1: they're still gonna be learning and installing and all of
Speaker 1: that that goes on in training camp as well. But
Speaker 1: I kind of get the sense, I'll just bounce this
Speaker 1: off of you to see if you agree. I get
Speaker 1: the sense hearing from Rogers the other day that he
Speaker 1: knows that he has a lot to learn, but he's
Speaker 1: also kind of looking at he he's like the kid
Speaker 1: who has to go home every night and is doing
Speaker 1: all of the extra studying and the extra homework so
Speaker 1: that he comes back to the classroom the next day
Speaker 1: and is raising his hand all the time because he's
Speaker 1: taking what I'm saying is he's taking the leadership responsibility
Speaker 1: of this, of the transition to the new offense, very
Speaker 1: very seriously. He knows he's the singal signal caller, He's
Speaker 1: got the ball in his hands every play, he's the
Speaker 1: two time m v P. He's the guy who's got
Speaker 1: to lead the charge here. The coaches are only going
Speaker 1: to be able to do so much to teach these
Speaker 1: guys this offense. Aaron Rodgers knows that there's a lot
Speaker 1: on his shoulders, and he's not backing away from any
Speaker 1: of it. No. It is funny you bring that up
Speaker 1: because the way I did read that, especially if to
Speaker 1: listen to the defensive assistant coaches, there were two players
Speaker 1: on this team. They're probably the acception. Everybody else is
Speaker 1: trying to learn the playbook. Then you have Aaron rodd
Speaker 1: Is on offense in Blake markin defense, and it's like
Speaker 1: they have to be the master level, like the AP style,
Speaker 1: like the one that's above that, and certainly both of
Speaker 1: those guys embrace it. Rogers. It's very interesting to another
Speaker 1: degree because, like as Matt Lafleur has said numerous times
Speaker 1: this offseason, he's gonna still have a lot of freedom
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage to check out of things
Speaker 1: and to try to get the Packers offense into the
Speaker 1: best play possible. Well, in order to do that, you
Speaker 1: need to know this offense inside and out. And for
Speaker 1: people unfamiliar with what the off season program is as
Speaker 1: compared to training camp, at least during the time that
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy was here, those O t A practices and
Speaker 1: then into the mini camp, those are basically used as
Speaker 1: a avenue towards installing the entire offense. Then by the
Speaker 1: time you get done, you dismiss players. They come back
Speaker 1: five years later, and then you go through the process again.
Speaker 1: It's almost like researching and then implementing. Now, Matt Lafleur said,
Speaker 1: the way I understood it when he talked at the
Speaker 1: podium a couple of days ago, was that, Okay, maybe
Speaker 1: they won't have everything in, but we're gonna know what
Speaker 1: this offense is by the time they break after mandatory
Speaker 1: mini camp on January from June, and from Roger's perspective,
Speaker 1: he wants to be on top of that because once
Speaker 1: they get back July got that date right, it's it's
Speaker 1: you know, your all systems go. Yeah, it's full speed
Speaker 1: ahead come July. You know Rogers, he had said earlier
Speaker 1: in the offseason program, he's talking about having You know this,
Speaker 1: this is not a grace period year. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is a veteran quarterback, a lot of veteran players on offense.
Speaker 1: When you look at the offensive line, you look at
Speaker 1: your number one and number two receivers, you look at
Speaker 1: your number one running back. These are all guys who
Speaker 1: have been in the NFL. Your top tight ends, guys
Speaker 1: who have been in the NFL for a long time.
Speaker 1: This is not this is not some kind of a
Speaker 1: red shirt year for the for the offense just because
Speaker 1: it's new. Come training camp, Rodgers wants to be able
Speaker 1: to hit the ground running. And that's what makes this.
Speaker 1: These three weeks of O t A s and the
Speaker 1: mandatory mini camp when they get they get a lot
Speaker 1: of eleven on eleven makes it so important because as
Speaker 1: you said, West, first they install the offense in the
Speaker 1: classroom through a lot of the O t A they have,
Speaker 1: they have a lot of meetings I'm sorry, through the
Speaker 1: off season program. They have a lot of meetings through
Speaker 1: phase one, in phase two, then in phase three, they're
Speaker 1: still having meetings, but they're also getting to do the
Speaker 1: eleven on eleven stuff. It's the first time to try
Speaker 1: that all out. Then you get to training camp and
Speaker 1: it kind of all gets crammed in together where you're
Speaker 1: having because the days are longer, the players are here
Speaker 1: a lot longer throughout the day, you're having the meetings
Speaker 1: and the practices, and then meetings that are reviewing the
Speaker 1: practice film, and you're cramming all of all of that installation,
Speaker 1: classroom and on the field into those first few weeks
Speaker 1: of training camp. Then to get ready for the preseason games.
Speaker 1: So this is where they get to take it slow
Speaker 1: and learn it, and then the pace of everything is
Speaker 1: ramped up come late July. Absolutely, I mean that's the
Speaker 1: way it has to be in this environment now with
Speaker 1: the e b A and being able to kind of
Speaker 1: maximize those days. It's one reason why too and Matt
Speaker 1: Lafleur was asked, you know, is the team going to
Speaker 1: break during mini camp? Mike McCarthy always, Actually, the last
Speaker 1: couple of years, I don't know if the veterans were
Speaker 1: even participating in the mini camp, they'd always break and
Speaker 1: do team building exercises well, floor basically put it out
Speaker 1: there saying, no, we need all three of those days
Speaker 1: to be able to get to where we want to
Speaker 1: get to, not only with his offense, with Mike Petton
Speaker 1: and his defense. He has new players coming in Rashawn Gary.
Speaker 1: All these free agents in addition to the guys who
Speaker 1: are back, are only one year in the scheme, so
Speaker 1: time is so valuable right now. It is voluntary. Players
Speaker 1: are not obligated to be here. But you look at
Speaker 1: that receiver battle, which we'll talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: next week. You tell me you don't want to be
Speaker 1: the young receiver that's not here for that being able
Speaker 1: to try to carve out the number two or number
Speaker 1: three starting spot in this offense some high stakes. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: Well with that, we will call it a wrap on
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