Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, everybody, It's Thursday, November seventh, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Show, where apparently we
Speaker 1: all have the same shirt. Be your rand MG Marcus Grant,
Speaker 1: joined by Michael Florio and Lakwan Jones. I don't even
Speaker 1: know where to go with that. I was gonna like,
Speaker 1: this is like an audio show, Like I can't be like, hey, look,
Speaker 1: we're all we like, we're not even wearing the same
Speaker 1: shirt today.
Speaker 2: I thought we did though, I thought I had that shirt.
Speaker 1: Okay, for those of you who can't see, which is
Speaker 1: pretty much all of you, I am wearing a colored
Speaker 1: polo shirt with like stripes of black and white and brown.
Speaker 1: If you watch Thursday's episode of NFL Fantasy like, you
Speaker 1: know exactly sure I'm talking about. This is way too
Speaker 1: much conversation about a shirt we got to play to
Speaker 1: talk about on the show today. We all have our
Speaker 1: big calls for Week ten, but let's get started with
Speaker 1: some fantasy headlines. And this one seems to kind of
Speaker 1: pop up out of nowhere. Trevor Lawrence dealing with the
Speaker 1: shoulder injury, unlikely to play this week against the Minnesota Vikings,
Speaker 1: and there is some rumblings that he could be out
Speaker 1: for an extended period of time, maybe even the rest
Speaker 1: of the season. In the short term, though, the attention
Speaker 1: turns to Mac Jones as the starting quarterback for Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: What does this mean for the rest of the Jacksonville
Speaker 1: pass catchers? If it is Mac Jones this week and
Speaker 1: going forward.
Speaker 3: It's definitely not great, clearly like it would be a
Speaker 3: downgrade at the quarterback position. But like for this week
Speaker 3: in particular, the Vikings have allowed the most fantasy points
Speaker 3: for game to wide receivers. They play a lot of
Speaker 3: zone coverage. Brian Thomas Junior has the third most yards
Speaker 3: against zone coverage. That I would still start Brian Thomas Junior,
Speaker 3: And because of the tight end position and the state
Speaker 3: of it, you probably can get away with still starting
Speaker 3: Evan Ingram. Like I have one team where I have
Speaker 3: Ingram and Kada and that's an easy decision. But most
Speaker 3: fantasy managers, I don't think, have that that option in
Speaker 3: that position. So if you need to continue to start,
Speaker 3: at least take a I'm going to start Evan Ingram
Speaker 3: this week and see what he gives me type of approach,
Speaker 3: I think that is fine. All of the secondary options
Speaker 3: are are gone for me though I want no part
Speaker 3: of them. And I think this even hurts the running
Speaker 3: backs as well, because teams are probably like, you're the
Speaker 3: Vikings this weekend. You're probably like, let's see Mac Jones
Speaker 3: beat us, let's keen in on this running game. But
Speaker 3: I think that the two ones that I say, stay
Speaker 3: and play, and I will say, I think we do
Speaker 3: have a Mac Jones fan on this podcast.
Speaker 1: Wait you are? I forgot you're a Mac Jones guy.
Speaker 1: I forgot about that.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say I'm a Mac Jones guy, but I
Speaker 2: would say I'm a Trevor Lawrence hater. Like I just don't.
Speaker 2: I just don't see it. I just don't have the
Speaker 2: lens that everybody has with Trevor Lawrence. I can literally
Speaker 2: go on a rant right now of how bad this
Speaker 2: guy is and he's not living up the standards. But
Speaker 2: my opinions don't matter much when it comes to that.
Speaker 2: But Mac Jones, I think overall he's served like he
Speaker 2: was great his rookie year. I mean, we had fantasy
Speaker 2: relevance with Da Mario Douglas, we had fantasy relevance with
Speaker 2: the run game. I mean, I think mac Jones picks
Speaker 2: up you know whatever Trevor Lawrence put down. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's not that far of a lift, but it's just
Speaker 2: it is what it is. At this point, I.
Speaker 1: Don't think I realized you had such strong feelings against
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. This is today.
Speaker 2: I'm one of those guys that believed in him that
Speaker 2: one year after the year at the Urban Meyer and
Speaker 2: was all in on fantasy. And then he burns you,
Speaker 2: and then it's like, you know what you're I'm.
Speaker 1: The hatefo X.
Speaker 2: You'll you'll never ever ever have my support again.
Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. He is definitely he has
Speaker 1: not been the guy that we thought he would be
Speaker 1: coming out of Clemson. I don't know that I have
Speaker 1: strong feelings one way or another about Trevor Lawrence at
Speaker 1: this point. He's sort of just a guy. I think
Speaker 1: it's nothing against him.
Speaker 2: It's more so the people that defend him is my
Speaker 2: real problem.
Speaker 1: Like come on, Also, there's a huge gap between being
Speaker 1: a mac Jones guy and a Trevor Lawrence hater, Like
Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's an I just remember the.
Speaker 3: Videos, like Lakwan posted a video this this season being
Speaker 3: like go trade for mac Jones.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: I think I had to back up that he is
Speaker 3: a back Jil fan.
Speaker 2: All right, fair enough, and we have the same last name.
Speaker 2: What are we doing here?
Speaker 1: Come on?
Speaker 2: I got We're the ones.
Speaker 1: Lakwan and McCorkle Jones, just together forever. It's that's great.
Speaker 1: Let's get to some of the week ten calls, if
Speaker 1: you know mine. We will start, as always with Club Dub,
Speaker 1: the nine quarterback we think is gonna be the top
Speaker 1: score for the week. Quen, You've been spicy the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks with your Club Dub because I think
Speaker 1: last week you had a defense if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: and this week you have a defense. What what?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: What's happening here?
Speaker 2: I had the wrong defense, I said, commanders, but it
Speaker 2: ended up being my rams, which you know, slapping the
Speaker 2: face to me. But I'm going with the Lions this week. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right, it was a big w for us. But
Speaker 2: all I'm gonna say is, at least with the Lions,
Speaker 2: they have a takeaway in every single game this season,
Speaker 2: So therefore you're going to be able to stack on
Speaker 2: the standard points you start off with. And I don't
Speaker 2: think this is going to be you know, a game
Speaker 2: where they let up a bunch of points. This is
Speaker 2: going to be a game where they can attack that
Speaker 2: that old line and get some sack production and possibly
Speaker 2: create some takeaways. They just traded for another pass rusher,
Speaker 2: so therefore they're going to be filling that void that
Speaker 2: they had so far with that sack production. So I'm
Speaker 2: looking for them to light it up this week, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So we're going with the Lions defense. You know,
Speaker 1: the rank makes the point on Fantasy Live that you know,
Speaker 1: we talk about them being an indoor team, but they
Speaker 1: went to Green Bay last week in the elements and
Speaker 1: shut down the Packers. So at this point they're just
Speaker 1: a good team. Like that's all there is to it.
Speaker 1: With the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 2: It's just their quarterback. Yeah, and Texans' own line is trash.
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of a Lion. You're staying in the NFC
Speaker 1: North for your club, dub pick Floria.
Speaker 3: This was the easiest decision of the week for me
Speaker 3: because I think Justin Jefferson is going to go absolutely
Speaker 3: crazy this week. I liked it even more when Trevor
Speaker 3: Lawrence was playing and I thought the Jags might put
Speaker 3: up some mood of a fight on the other side,
Speaker 3: but it doesn't matter. The Jaguars have allowed the most
Speaker 3: production through the air this year, most fantasy points to quarterbacks,
Speaker 3: fourth most too wide receivers. I think Justin Jefferson is
Speaker 3: just going to do whatever he wants, have a field day,
Speaker 3: gonna show off the shiniest chains you'll ever see in
Speaker 3: your life, probably go for a buck fifty and a touchdown,
Speaker 3: something like that. I just expect a huge day out
Speaker 3: of him in this matchup. So he's always safe, he's
Speaker 3: always a must start, but this week in particular, I think,
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna get a big day.
Speaker 1: All right, that sounds good to me. My one of
Speaker 1: my bold predictions for the week was that there're gonna
Speaker 1: be three LSU receivers in the top five. I think
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase after Thursday night, I think Justin Jefferson. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say Brian Thomas Junior, but that was for
Speaker 1: the switching quarterbacks. So maybe now I'll just pivot to
Speaker 1: Mike Maligue neighbors or something like that.
Speaker 3: But I think my bold prediction was kind of similar
Speaker 3: to yours. I was like, Thomas is gonna go off,
Speaker 3: but he's gonna have the second best game in that wood.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Now now with a new quarterback, I don't
Speaker 1: know that I could really reach that far forward, although
Speaker 1: my club dub is maybe a little bit of a reach.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just wish casting and vibe, but I'm saying
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey right, because they've waited all this time to
Speaker 1: get him back into the offense. They were waiting until
Speaker 1: they felt like he was perfectly healthy. And we know
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan likes just to see McCaffrey go off. I mean,
Speaker 1: when he had the touchdown Street going, Kyle Shanahan went
Speaker 1: out of his way to try and keep it going,
Speaker 1: like just forcing the issue. So this seems like, you know,
Speaker 1: hey man, you know, I know Christmas is coming around again.
Speaker 1: This is like Ralphie getting the Red Rider gun, like
Speaker 1: we gotta make this thing happen, right, Like, I just
Speaker 1: feel like they're going to force feed Christian McCaffrey and
Speaker 1: give him loss with to opportunities catching the football against
Speaker 1: a bad Bucks secondary, Like most likely it's probably not
Speaker 1: gonna have it. But I just had this. I just
Speaker 1: have this weird vision in my head of Kyle Shanahan
Speaker 1: just going out of his way to do things for
Speaker 1: stem C.
Speaker 2: Uh well, yeah, Ralphie and also almost shot his eye out.
Speaker 1: Who's the saying Kyle Shanahan didn't metaphorically almost shoot his
Speaker 1: eye out this week too by like trying to force me,
Speaker 1: you know, like I said of like, hey man, this
Speaker 1: pretty kittle thing is working. Let's just force feed Christian
Speaker 1: mccatt like you know, they're parallels here. Man.
Speaker 3: Do you think he's nervous that CMC is fregilely?
Speaker 1: You might be right? Must be Italian? Be Italian ta
Speaker 1: red flag the player to beware of. And uh, look
Speaker 1: what do we have to We have to downgrade him
Speaker 1: to Mitsubishi Marv. I saw that floating around Twitter this week.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I think we might have to have that
Speaker 2: conversation about that. But huge red flag on him, man.
Speaker 2: And look this Jets defense man. As much as the
Speaker 2: crazy Jerry Shore storyline they got going on, that defense
Speaker 2: still remains intact, very difficult, you know against wide receivers
Speaker 2: top five few is fantasy points for a game two
Speaker 2: wide receivers and looking at Marvin Harrison's track record can't
Speaker 2: be trusted. Man, DDE has the really really highs or
Speaker 2: they really really loads it's like boom or bust with him,
Speaker 2: and I don't think I could test him this week,
Speaker 2: So I will have my expectations in order and look
Speaker 2: to other wide receivers that have higher ceilings because we
Speaker 2: came to a bank on vy him. Dude have five
Speaker 2: targets last week. That's not something that it's like a
Speaker 2: lock going into every single week with Marvin Harrison and
Speaker 2: the targets that he is getting forced fed. He's not
Speaker 2: catching him, man, He's catching less than fifty percent of
Speaker 2: his targets in the last five games. And look, we're
Speaker 2: in the back end of the fantasy season. We need
Speaker 2: some trusted players in our lineups.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been rough. Low key Kyler Murray has been
Speaker 1: one of the bigger disappointments in the fantasy season, but
Speaker 1: Marvis and Harrison Junior is up there as well, and
Speaker 1: it feels like he's sort of floated under the radar
Speaker 1: in terms of being disappointing because we've kind of focused
Speaker 1: our frustrations on a lot of other people there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Oyer last week, Patrick Mahomes was good, right, he gave
Speaker 1: me like twenty four points. Most of the season he's
Speaker 1: been Patrick Meh Holmes and it looks like you were
Speaker 1: expecting him to go back to that this week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I understand, he's coming off his two best
Speaker 3: fantasy games of the season. There's a reason to feel
Speaker 3: good about him and excited and all of that. But like,
Speaker 3: let's not forget that he had the best matchup a
Speaker 3: quarterback could have last week, and that really is what
Speaker 3: I think led to him having such a big Fantasy day.
Speaker 3: I am hopeful that Mahomes the rest of the way
Speaker 3: maybe can kind of be what we were hoping to be,
Speaker 3: build off of these last two games and becoming every
Speaker 3: week starter again. But until he proves to us that
Speaker 3: he is not matchup dependent, I think it's okay to
Speaker 3: get away from him in tough matchups, which is what
Speaker 3: this is. The Denver Broncos. They have allowed the six
Speaker 3: fewest fantasy points to quarterbacks. That is, after getting absolutely
Speaker 3: torched by Lamar Jackson and the Ravens last week. The
Speaker 3: most offenses can't do what Lamar and the Ravens do.
Speaker 3: I like, I'm hopeful that de hop and everything helps
Speaker 3: elevate this Chiefs offense, but considering the matchup, but considering
Speaker 3: that he struggled against them last year, one passing touchdown,
Speaker 3: three interceptions in two games against them. I would try
Speaker 3: to play it safe and get away if you have
Speaker 3: another option.
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four season continues to be a study in
Speaker 1: production in real football versus fantasy football, because Mahomes, by
Speaker 1: all the metrics, is still performing at a high level
Speaker 1: for the actual Chiefs, just not for your fantasy team.
Speaker 1: So I think it's just something to sort of keep
Speaker 1: in mind. My beware this week is a guy who
Speaker 1: I think can still give you a decent number, and
Speaker 1: that's Joe Mixon. Just because of the way he's being
Speaker 1: used in the Houston offense. I think that is enough
Speaker 1: to sort of mean to sort of keep him in
Speaker 1: your lineup. But the matchup is not a good one
Speaker 1: against the Detroit Lions coming up this week. It just
Speaker 1: they have been so good against running backs all season long,
Speaker 1: and you know, I think what wins the day for
Speaker 1: mixing is just the potential for volume that he's going
Speaker 1: to get a lot of carries. There's really nobody else
Speaker 1: to threaten back there. He will get some targets as well,
Speaker 1: but I do think you sort of lower your expectations.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been good for pretty much one hundred
Speaker 1: rushing yards in every game. I don't know that he
Speaker 1: gets there this week. Hopefully the targets and the catches
Speaker 1: sort of save the day a little bit, and if
Speaker 1: you can find the end zone, then that gives you
Speaker 1: a decent number. But I don't think this is going
Speaker 1: to be the same level of Joe Mixon games that
Speaker 1: we have seen all year long, so you probably got
Speaker 1: to start him. I can't imagine you can get away
Speaker 1: from Joe Mixon, but just sort of timper your expectations
Speaker 1: against the Lions. This week. It's time to drive your line.
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Speaker 1: things up with the Snorelas our favorite Week ten sleeper.
Speaker 1: Who are we sleeping on?
Speaker 2: Lakwan Uh Darnah Mooney? He seems to be a guy
Speaker 2: that he falls in that tier where you have to
Speaker 2: fight to get him in your line. I was just
Speaker 2: based on he was a dep guy to begin with,
Speaker 2: Like we didn't really have this season on the table
Speaker 2: for him. Like it wasn't on my Bengo card that
Speaker 2: Darna Mooney would be a y receiver that averages fifteen
Speaker 2: Fantasy points for a game or He's top ten in
Speaker 2: targets like this dude has been phenomenal. With Drake London
Speaker 2: banged up, when Kyle Pitch banged up with a hamstring,
Speaker 2: they were both limited this week. I think Darnall Mooney
Speaker 2: can explode on this Saints defense, who are also banged
Speaker 2: up with that secondary, And like these are division games,
Speaker 2: this is where games they get weird to get funky,
Speaker 2: and I think Darnell Mooney is like one of those
Speaker 2: guys you kind of have to shift into your flex
Speaker 2: or your wide receiver two position this week.
Speaker 1: I mean, Darnell Mooney has just been straight up good
Speaker 1: like all year long. Literally did anybody saw that coming?
Speaker 1: I mean we were all like Grandma cookies because we
Speaker 1: were all seriously like Drake London, Kyle Pitts, and like
Speaker 1: seriously like Darnell Mooney was the meme of like Jason
Speaker 1: Momoa trying to sneak up on Henry Cavill, like that
Speaker 1: was that was Darnell Mooney this year. We just did
Speaker 1: not see that one coming. I'm so are we all
Speaker 1: going nuts? Because we're all sort of like gravitating down
Speaker 1: to Carolina for things now, Like this feels like it's
Speaker 1: going to blow up in our faces, but it seems
Speaker 1: kind of fun the moment.
Speaker 3: I have hope that it is not going to blow
Speaker 3: up in our faces because the last two games and
Speaker 3: my snorlax Is exavierly get the wide receiver from the
Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers. But in the last two games, Bryce Young
Speaker 3: has played better and has taken, in my opinion, a
Speaker 3: little bit of a step forward, especially if you watched
Speaker 3: last week and didn't. Just like box score scout, he
Speaker 3: had a long pass down the sidelines that should have
Speaker 3: been caught that was dropped. He also had another one
Speaker 3: that went through like Leget caught it, but the defender
Speaker 3: then just ripped it away from him and it went
Speaker 3: down as an interception despite being an absolute dime from
Speaker 3: Bryce Young. But the reason I'm excited about Lee get
Speaker 3: thirteen Fantasy points in two straight games, a touchdown and
Speaker 3: two straight each of those With Bryce Young, he runs
Speaker 3: about seventy percent of his routes out wide, and now
Speaker 3: he gets the Giants, who if you just looked at
Speaker 3: the yards, they don't allow it. They haven't allowed a
Speaker 3: ton so far, but they've allowed the highest passer rating
Speaker 3: in the NFL to out wide wide receivers. Terry mclaurins
Speaker 3: cooked them last week, So yeah, if you're going a
Speaker 3: little bit deeper for a sleeper at wide receiver this week,
Speaker 3: four teams on by Lee Get is a name that
Speaker 3: I like.
Speaker 1: If you want he had really not see can go
Speaker 1: jayl But I do think there are better days coming
Speaker 1: for Carolina pass catchers for sure. I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: de Andre Swift, who the surprise of a lot of people,
Speaker 1: and by a lot of people, I mean me. I
Speaker 1: think he's at a top ten amongst fantasy running backs
Speaker 1: this year, which I did not think was going to
Speaker 1: be a thing. We're not talking about Rashaun Johnson. We
Speaker 1: haven't talked about Rashawn Johnson in weeks because Swift has
Speaker 1: taken over pretty much everything in that backfield. And I
Speaker 1: know the Bears offense the last two weeks has not
Speaker 1: been great. Caleb Williams is scuffling. We talked about that,
Speaker 1: I think earlier in the week. This feels like a
Speaker 1: chance for Shane Waldron to hashtag establish it right. You're
Speaker 1: going against a Patriots run defense, which is in the
Speaker 1: bottom part of the league in terms of stopping the run.
Speaker 1: They just have not done a great job at all.
Speaker 1: Why not start with the run. Why not get DeAndre
Speaker 1: Swift going and use that to open things up for
Speaker 1: your quarterback and then move from there. This is not
Speaker 1: going to be a high scoring game between these two teams.
Speaker 1: I don't think game script is going to be an
Speaker 1: issue if somehow it is. We know Swift can still
Speaker 1: catch the ball out of backfield, so he can still
Speaker 1: be out there regardless of the situation. But this feels
Speaker 1: like a game where we see Swift early and often,
Speaker 1: just try to get something forward moving for the Bears
Speaker 1: and then hopefully Kayleb Williams can turn it around and
Speaker 1: pick it up right after that. That was Drive Your Lineup,
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