Speaker 1: What's that at the foot of my bed. It's spooky
Speaker 1: and jooky. I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, help, I'm ghosted.
Speaker 1: Hi ros Dressens, Hey boo, it's me Roz. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I'm always looking for listener episode submissions by emailing me
Speaker 1: at ghosted by rosigmail dot com and Wow, today's episode,
Speaker 1: we got stories and stories and stories. There's some epic tales,
Speaker 1: there's some shorter stories, there's some you're just gonna have
Speaker 1: to hear for yourself. And as always on Patreon dot
Speaker 1: com slush ros dress Felasi, you can hear more. I
Speaker 1: actually have three different clips from today's episode. You're gonna
Speaker 1: hear about some Catholic paranormal stuff. You're gonna hear about
Speaker 1: a ghost tour where somebody touched a ghost. You're also
Speaker 1: going to hear about a spooky room in a childhood home.
Speaker 1: So go check that out on my second tier. Patren
Speaker 1: and I also have a video this week of me
Speaker 1: at the Cavern Club at Casina del Campo, my favorite place.
Speaker 1: I have been rehearsing a show there and I had
Speaker 1: some fellow performers tell me about their ghost stories. And
Speaker 1: show you around the place a bit. So go check
Speaker 1: that out. And yeah, let's hear some stories. Here is
Speaker 1: this month's listener phone call Extravaganza on with the show.
Speaker 1: Hello Christina in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: Hi Roz, how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good? Are you welcome back a returning listener? I
Speaker 1: love it.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me once again after a hiatus.
Speaker 1: Yes, Well, have you had ghost stories since the last
Speaker 1: time we spoke or are we going to talk about
Speaker 1: other ghost stories from your life?
Speaker 2: So? I have had some since as well, as these
Speaker 2: were older ones that I had thought about after we
Speaker 2: talked last.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Perfect. And I love the instinct to be like, okay,
Speaker 1: some shit has gone down. I gotta call ros.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. And there were multiple times over especially
Speaker 2: during the pandemic, that I was like, I have to
Speaker 2: reach back out to Roz. But you know, life and everything,
Speaker 2: but better late than never.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what happens?
Speaker 2: Okay, So this first story actually happened over quarantine. I
Speaker 2: was staying with a former boyfriend. We're still friends though,
Speaker 2: you know, so it's not like an X. But so
Speaker 2: I was staying with him, and like you said, I'm
Speaker 2: from Pittsburgh and he lives in a small like former
Speaker 2: mining neighborhood in southwestern Pennsylvania. So like where where his
Speaker 2: house is. I mean, this whole neighborhood used to be
Speaker 2: coal miners that lived and worked there, and you know
Speaker 2: almost like they had to you know, work for the
Speaker 2: company store and all that. Like they were basically like
Speaker 2: slaves to the industry. So there's a lot of depression
Speaker 2: around there. Like you go down into that neighborhood and
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm an mpath so it feels heavy to me.
Speaker 2: And so he had told me that there was something
Speaker 2: that happened in the house, and I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 2: if every house in that neighborhood has a little bit
Speaker 2: of something because just because of you know, the strife
Speaker 2: that people had to go through back then. So we
Speaker 2: were I was staying there. This's is probably like what
Speaker 2: let's see, quarantines really started in March, so this might
Speaker 2: have been like April May. And it's late, it's like
Speaker 2: two in the morning, and we're in his room and
Speaker 2: it for people who don't know what a clavinova is,
Speaker 2: you know, it's a like an electric keyboard like a piano,
Speaker 2: but you can record on it. And but you have
Speaker 2: to turn it on for it to work. And I
Speaker 2: heard the Clavinova hit two keys, like two notes, like
Speaker 2: doo doo, And right after that he said to me,
Speaker 2: did you he that? I was like, yeah, what that's
Speaker 2: that was the Clavinova. And at that time his dog
Speaker 2: starts going crazy downstairs, barking, and she's an old girl
Speaker 2: and she can't hear anymore, so something obviously tipped her off.
Speaker 2: And I don't I'm sure people can relate whenever, Sometimes
Speaker 2: when I have these experiences, your brain automatically like makes
Speaker 2: it like starts to rationalize something else. So I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: it was probably like the cats or something. Well, those
Speaker 2: cats are never on surfaces like that, and it would
Speaker 2: have had to be on And also it was closed,
Speaker 2: the cover was over top of it. Oh yeah, like weird.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my gosh, like somebody might
Speaker 2: be in your house. And he goes downstairs, he checks
Speaker 2: it out. Everything's fine, the dog's still barking, but he
Speaker 2: calms the dog down and I'm freathed out and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm not going down there. I'm so scared you And
Speaker 2: I felt safer being left alone upstairs, even though, like
Speaker 2: the upstairs feels kind of creepy, but I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm not going down.
Speaker 1: There, So I just hope I'm never in the position
Speaker 1: where I have to be him where it's like, don't worry,
Speaker 1: I got the now. Absolutely not.
Speaker 2: Nope, no, thank you. And so if we fast forward
Speaker 2: to the morning, like like waking up morning time, and
Speaker 2: he ends up telling me that it like five in
Speaker 2: the morning. He got up to go down to the bathroom,
Speaker 2: and he walks down the steps and he looks over
Speaker 2: like it goes into the kitchen and he looks over
Speaker 2: by the microwave, and he's says that he saw like
Speaker 2: a full body apparition of a woman that it might
Speaker 2: be like forties fifties. He describes her as like wearing
Speaker 2: a dress. She had dark hair, and she was kind
Speaker 2: of like gray scale, like not like you know, in
Speaker 2: color or wispy whatever, Like it was just like kind
Speaker 2: of like she was black and white. And she walked
Speaker 2: into the bedroom that is next to it. I was like, what, said,
Speaker 2: did you follow her? He said, yeah, I went in,
Speaker 2: but she was gone.
Speaker 1: He followed her.
Speaker 2: It followed her. He followed her, And I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't know what I would have done. And it was
Speaker 2: like she was gone like that.
Speaker 1: And does this guy get scared of this stuff at all?
Speaker 2: See, he does, and he doesn't like he like, I
Speaker 2: know that he's had other experiences there too, where like
Speaker 2: there was one part where he was yelling at some
Speaker 2: like misty figure that was like floating near his bed
Speaker 2: and he was like, get out of here, and they left.
Speaker 2: So I think it's just a lot of residual stuff there, And.
Speaker 1: My god, I would have moved out or figured something.
Speaker 1: I would have had at least, like now we have
Speaker 1: a gator an empty gatorade bottle next to the bed
Speaker 1: because I am not getting up in the middle of
Speaker 1: the night. I'm going to figure it out. There is
Speaker 1: no way at five am I'm gonna be walking around
Speaker 1: with some black and white grayscale lady walking through things.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not no like.
Speaker 2: And when they when she did that, it was almost
Speaker 2: like he said, it was almost like she wanted him
Speaker 2: to follow her, so he like did again. It's like
Speaker 2: those things where your body and your mind react and
Speaker 2: rationalize in the moment, and then when you step back
Speaker 2: and like moments have passed, you're like, what the fuck,
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: So then did you just keep staying there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm crazy. Now his daughter, he has a
Speaker 2: twelve year old daughter and at the time she was
Speaker 2: like just turning eleven. And if you talk to her
Speaker 2: about the house, she just says it nonchalantly, like she
Speaker 2: says that, you know, she sees things in her room,
Speaker 2: like oh yeah, there's there's a woman, and there's a boy,
Speaker 2: and there's a man. I don't really like the man.
Speaker 2: I mean, he doesn't do anything, but he creeps me out.
Speaker 2: Like the way that she would just rattle this off,
Speaker 2: I would have been crying and sleeping with my parents
Speaker 2: every night. There's no way. But then I can't remember
Speaker 2: what else had happened. There was something else that happened
Speaker 2: that I said, that's it, I'm done with it. We're
Speaker 2: taking care of this. And I had actually brought some
Speaker 2: Paulo Santo with me and and guy said, we're cleansing
Speaker 2: a little bit because we need to be able to
Speaker 2: sleep and we're quarantined. So, like, as you've said on
Speaker 2: your show, you know so many people are having these
Speaker 2: experiences because we're spending so much time in these spaces. Yeah, nope, nope, uhh,
Speaker 2: We're doing this tonight before before we go to bed.
Speaker 2: So I go down and I do this a lot.
Speaker 2: I'm hippie dippy, and I start like, you know, centering myself,
Speaker 2: surrounding myself in a white light, praying, you know, whatever
Speaker 2: works for people, like I do my own thing. But
Speaker 2: so I'm lighting it and I'm going from room to
Speaker 2: room and he is like, he's like crying because he's
Speaker 2: like it was like overwhelming, Like the energy was just
Speaker 2: overwhelming in that house. And when I went into the
Speaker 2: bedroom where that ghost had walked into too, I got
Speaker 2: over the one side of the bed and I got
Speaker 2: filled with this nausea, like overcome with that like quick,
Speaker 2: like you're hot, and it's all. I had talked to
Speaker 2: another friend of mine who is you know, dabbles in
Speaker 2: this type of thing as well, and she said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: that was any negative. That was the negative leaving, and
Speaker 2: the negative was probably not happy about that and not
Speaker 2: happy about you taking charge of it. But so I
Speaker 2: would say after that, I never really had any experiences.
Speaker 2: I mean, there was one time where I thought I
Speaker 2: saw something out of the corner of my eye, but
Speaker 2: I mean that happens all the time. But nothing to
Speaker 2: the degree like we experienced during that time. So Paulo
Speaker 2: Santo worked.
Speaker 1: Has he reported anything else happening, No.
Speaker 2: Not, not recently, just the stuff from before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's such a tricky situation, like god,
Speaker 1: especially during a pandemic, because in my mind I would
Speaker 1: probably be like, Okay, if you're good, you could stay,
Speaker 1: but don't scare me. If you're bad, you gotta go.
Speaker 2: That's really my mantra. I always say, you know, like
Speaker 2: I give like a speech saying okay, you know the good,
Speaker 2: good energy, Yes, stay, you're welcome. The bad must leave,
Speaker 2: And I usually like either open a door or crack
Speaker 2: a window and show them the way out. And the
Speaker 2: mantra that I.
Speaker 1: Repit berg it's your problem now.
Speaker 2: That's right, exactly deal with it. But I usually say
Speaker 2: the good may stay, the bad must leave, the good
Speaker 2: may say the bad must leave. So yeah, just keeping
Speaker 2: that strength because that's the thing too, Like you don't
Speaker 2: want to be disrespectful to any of these two. You
Speaker 2: just want to be firm.
Speaker 1: But you know, with something that's really interesting is I
Speaker 1: know this from like acting class and stuff where we
Speaker 1: talk about villains for example, and like typically a villain
Speaker 1: does not think that they're bad. Like what they're doing
Speaker 1: is good and they're just trying to succeed at what
Speaker 1: they're bad thing is but to them it's not bad.
Speaker 1: And so it's really like do they know that they're bad?
Speaker 2: Like that's a very good question. I I would The
Speaker 2: way that I categorize it is, you know, do you
Speaker 2: have good intent for everyone and for everything? Or are
Speaker 2: you more so self seeking? Are you out of revenge?
Speaker 2: Are you you know things? That's why I say I
Speaker 2: work in the lights. I don't work with the dark.
Speaker 2: So you know, everything that has as a good intention,
Speaker 2: and you know who knows how that's actually controlled? Because right,
Speaker 2: like how do they know, like, oh, I'm bad, I
Speaker 2: have to go, so I don't. I don't know. That's
Speaker 2: a good question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it is also like okay, fine, I'll leave,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna make you nauseous, right, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: You're gonna make me get out of here? Well here's
Speaker 2: like a punch to the gut. Yeah, because it did.
Speaker 2: I was like I got that like head rush and
Speaker 2: you know when you get that nause all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: you feel hot and everything, and it was quick. It
Speaker 2: went away within like ten seconds. But yeah, so, and
Speaker 2: I don't know that the woman was good or bad,
Speaker 2: but maybe maybe she was trying to say, hey, like,
Speaker 2: there's something in here that shouldn't be in here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I don't know. Also too, I forget I forgot
Speaker 2: an important detail too. Apparently his grandmother passed in that
Speaker 2: bedroom when he was a kid, So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, could it be a younger version of her?
Speaker 2: I wonder that. And he couldn't really describe any specific
Speaker 2: features other than she had dark hair, So I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe it was, but I would like to think that
Speaker 2: it was somebody that was saying, hey, there's something going
Speaker 2: on here that needs addressed. And I was just like,
Speaker 2: that's it. I'm done with it for saging.
Speaker 1: Oh god, Oh tell me another one.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see, so another one. Okay, you have had
Speaker 2: a listener or to bring up Gettysburg before?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yes, I just talked to someone that
Speaker 1: will be on the same episode about Gettysburg get Out.
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is perfect then. Okay, So my best
Speaker 2: friend from call lives in Harrisburg, which is about an
Speaker 2: hour away from Gettysburg. I had gone to Gettysburg as
Speaker 2: a kid and I hated it because you know, as
Speaker 2: as as we talked before too that you know, I
Speaker 2: had abilities as a kid, and you know, I was
Speaker 2: really afraid of it, and I put a block up.
Speaker 2: I remember like that night, having a nightmare about like
Speaker 2: a Confederate soldier, like being in my hotel, being in
Speaker 2: my hotel room. And yeah, like I did not I
Speaker 2: didn't like the energy or anything. Now that I'm older
Speaker 2: and you know, I've accepted that I do have these abilities,
Speaker 2: I was more interested to go out. So we took
Speaker 2: a day trip there and it is beautiful and it
Speaker 2: is though, like the energy can be very heavy, especially
Speaker 2: when you go around this time of year, because that's
Speaker 2: when it happened, so it was summertime. And they have
Speaker 2: a thing that's called the car tour, and you basically
Speaker 2: just drive in your car and you follow like a map,
Speaker 2: like there's there are signs that say car tour this way,
Speaker 2: and it goes through each of the three days of
Speaker 2: the battles. So we're on this car tour and you know,
Speaker 2: of course I got my phone out with my snapchat
Speaker 2: and it's just really pretty. It's a beautiful day and
Speaker 2: I have my phone up. We come to like a
Speaker 2: t in the road. And I'm looking out of my
Speaker 2: window so on the passenger side, so out the out
Speaker 2: the right, and she is going to be turning left.
Speaker 2: And as I have my Snapchat up, I see through
Speaker 2: my phone like so through Snapchat, as I'm taking a
Speaker 2: picture what seems to be like a man riding a bicycle. Okay,
Speaker 2: like and in my head, you know, like I said,
Speaker 2: with that rationalization, I'm like, oh, okay, somebody somebody's like
Speaker 2: riding their bike. And I pull my phone down after
Speaker 2: I took the picture, and there's nothing there, like nothing,
Speaker 2: And it's not like, oh he went into the tree
Speaker 2: line or oh there was a little roadway there. No,
Speaker 2: he would have had to have been riding through the
Speaker 2: grass and there was there's like they make there's all
Speaker 2: these fences around that have they're either made out of
Speaker 2: the wood posts or the stone and there it was
Speaker 2: a combination of both there. So he would have literally
Speaker 2: went into a fence too. And I remember like pulling
Speaker 2: my phone down making that realization. She's turning the car
Speaker 2: and I said to her, uh, dude, I think I
Speaker 2: got something on this pic on this phone. She's like
Speaker 2: what I was like, yeah, because I could tell that
Speaker 2: there was something on the picture, but I was like,
Speaker 2: we'll look later, So look later, Yeah, you say later
Speaker 2: when we get back, or it might have been before that.
Speaker 2: I pull out my phone and there is something there,
Speaker 2: like what is that? And I zoom in on it
Speaker 2: and it actually looks like it's like a couple like
Speaker 2: silvery blobs, like not like an orb or you know,
Speaker 2: it doesn't look like a person. It looks like two
Speaker 2: silvery blobs, kind of like a lah Alex Mack.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yes, it's like those old Caprice Sun commercials.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, exactly like that. Yes, And I zoom in too,
Speaker 2: and you know, it gets a little pixelated, but it's
Speaker 2: it's just these like blobs, and I'm like, what the
Speaker 2: fuck is that? Like we caught like I must have
Speaker 2: caught some type of energy or something on there.
Speaker 1: But as it was happening in in real time, it
Speaker 1: seemed it looked like somebody on a bicycle.
Speaker 2: Yes, it looked like someone was like riding a bike,
Speaker 2: like a guy riding a bike. And I even like
Speaker 2: did research later because I was like, did they even
Speaker 2: have bicycles back then? Like what the and they did?
Speaker 2: But I don't know how you know popular they were
Speaker 2: around that area.
Speaker 1: Well, hey, it could have been from any you know,
Speaker 1: the past. Who knows, Like, it could be from any decade.
Speaker 2: That's a good point. It doesn't have to be during
Speaker 2: the Civil War. It could be afterwards. But it was
Speaker 2: so strange and this was the time. This was that
Speaker 2: summer when Pokemon go blew up, and I guess there
Speaker 2: were people like they have all these monuments and so
Speaker 2: a lot of those monuments were like Pokemon stops and
Speaker 2: gyms and whatever. And when we went over to her
Speaker 2: parents and like showing her dad and he's like, I
Speaker 2: know what that is, Like what he goes, it's a
Speaker 2: Pokemon like that. But yeah, that was the And I
Speaker 2: still have the picture too, So maybe I'll put it
Speaker 2: in the Facebook group or something.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, do it please.
Speaker 2: Because that's so creepy.
Speaker 1: I want to hear more. I want to hear about
Speaker 1: this dog ghost.
Speaker 2: Okay, my dog Cooper. So Cooper was a Shelty, a
Speaker 2: Shetland sheep dog, and he was very much a member
Speaker 2: of our family. I always called him my puppy brother.
Speaker 2: And he would sing like very easily prompted too. But
Speaker 2: he was just full of personality. And he died shortly
Speaker 2: before his eleventh birthday, and it was unexpected too, Like
Speaker 2: we he got sick. He had been sick for a
Speaker 2: long time and got better, but then all of a
Speaker 2: sudden he was sick and it just kind of happened quickly.
Speaker 2: So we were all. I mean, I I've lost some people,
Speaker 2: some important people in my life, but I have never
Speaker 2: mourned like something so hard as I mourned that dog.
Speaker 1: My dog is sick right now. I can't.
Speaker 2: Sending him all the good vibe.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's so.
Speaker 2: Cute too, Rocky's it's so sad.
Speaker 1: He's coughing like crazy. But it's okay, Okay, back to
Speaker 1: the start. He's not going to die.
Speaker 2: No, it's fine, it's great. He'll never die ever, ever,
Speaker 2: ever ever ever. Well, hey, even if he does, maybe
Speaker 2: these types of things will happen.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: My sister Caitlin, who you know I've mentioned before, she's
Speaker 2: a huge fan as well. She has a lot of
Speaker 2: these experiences where she feels like she sees him or
Speaker 2: like he used to. He used to lay on the
Speaker 2: floor and you'd be walking toward him and he'd still
Speaker 2: lay there, lay there, lay there, until you're like right
Speaker 2: up on top of him, and then all of a
Speaker 2: sudden he would get up. And she was walking out
Speaker 2: of her bedroom shortly after he had died and almost
Speaker 2: tripped over something that she was like, I saw it move.
Speaker 2: She said, that was the closest I ever got to it.
Speaker 2: It was so freaky. But she also felt like, well,
Speaker 2: that's Cooper, It's okay. He's and he was laying in
Speaker 2: her in her bedroom doorway too. She was sleeping with
Speaker 2: the with the door open. So that was one instance,
Speaker 2: and then there was another time really shortly after he
Speaker 2: died that she saw him. She saw him looking into
Speaker 2: her room and he was on top of my mom
Speaker 2: has this like it's at my mom's house. She has
Speaker 2: this big secretary, and it was like he was standing
Speaker 2: on top of the secretary, which is like really weird
Speaker 2: because why would he be doing that, But it was
Speaker 2: like he was doing it. So my sister could see him,
Speaker 2: and she said, I swear it lasted like ten seconds
Speaker 2: and and then he was gone. And so then more
Speaker 2: recently so now he's he died like two and a
Speaker 2: half years ago, and my sister so we now my
Speaker 2: mom now has two dogs and they're both Shetland sheep
Speaker 2: dog shelties like Cooper was. And my sister looked out
Speaker 2: the window and saw what kind of looked like like
Speaker 2: a white tail, like like the top of like like
Speaker 2: a white dog, and she thought it was Baxter, our
Speaker 2: our one dog who really looks a lot like Cooper did.
Speaker 2: And she looks over in the corner and Baxter's sleeping
Speaker 2: in the corner.
Speaker 4: She was like, oh, my gosh, that and then she thought, well,
Speaker 4: it could have been a reflection, it could have been
Speaker 4: this or that wrote it off a little bit, but
Speaker 4: also kept it in her mind.
Speaker 2: Two days later, my mom has a very similar experience,
Speaker 2: and this time the window is open, so there's no
Speaker 2: way it could have been a reflection. She really thought
Speaker 2: it was oh who left the dogs outside? But then like,
Speaker 2: they're right over here, so and my mom has a
Speaker 2: fence too, it's not like there's other and there's no
Speaker 2: other neighborhood dogs that look like are dogs either, So
Speaker 2: it was just strange. They're telling me these things are happening,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, ah.
Speaker 5: Like, I mean, that's great, but Cooper hasn't like made himself,
Speaker 5: you know, present to me at all since all of
Speaker 5: this and So I was at my mom's house.
Speaker 2: My mom was out of town, and my sister and
Speaker 2: I were there taking care of the dogs. And I
Speaker 2: laid down on my mom's bed because she is the
Speaker 2: best bed. Laid down on my mom's bed to take
Speaker 2: like a little nap in the middle of the day.
Speaker 2: And Baxter is actually so athletic he can jump up
Speaker 2: onto my mom's bed, which is really high up. So
Speaker 2: they had been in there in the morning, They're gone whatever.
Speaker 2: The door shut, so I'm half asleep and it feels
Speaker 2: like a dog is walking around on the bed and
Speaker 2: then like lays down and snuggles up next to me,
Speaker 2: and you know, I'm just thinking, oh, it's Baxter. I
Speaker 2: go back to sleep, and when I wake up for real,
Speaker 2: I realize I'm alone in the room. So I go
Speaker 2: out and I said to my sister, Hey, did you
Speaker 2: let the dogs in at any point while I was
Speaker 2: in there? She said no, they were with me the
Speaker 2: whole time. And I just kind of laughed and I said, well,
Speaker 2: Cooper finally made himself present to me, because I swear
Speaker 2: he just snuggled up to me in there, so it's
Speaker 2: almost like he's like, hey, like, don't feel bad. I
Speaker 2: love you too.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so sweet.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, like you know, even though, and I actually
Speaker 2: got a friend of ours from high school, grade school,
Speaker 2: high school. She's a very talented artist. She does a
Speaker 2: lot of pet portraits, and I got a pet portrait
Speaker 2: done for my sister of Cooper, I mean a couple
Speaker 2: of years before he died, because my sister would say
Speaker 2: that Cooper was her best friend. I mean they were very,
Speaker 2: very very close. She was the alpha, and like I
Speaker 2: even have a picture of when I gave it to her,
Speaker 2: like he's sniffing it and like he approved your portrait.
Speaker 2: And Baxter Will will sometimes bark at the portrait and
Speaker 2: or like look at it, like kind of cower away
Speaker 2: from it, almost like Cooper's like, hey, you know, you
Speaker 2: might be there now, but I'm still top dog. But
Speaker 2: so it's nice that, you know, he always kind of
Speaker 2: shows up when what it seems to be is he
Speaker 2: shows up when needed, Like you know, he shows up
Speaker 2: when my sister might be feeling anxious or sad or
Speaker 2: whatever needs that little reminder like hey, everything's okay. So
Speaker 2: you know, that's at least there's that, you know, at least,
Speaker 2: you know, even though I don't necessarily think that he
Speaker 2: like is trapped at my mom's house or anything like that.
Speaker 2: I really think that he's kind of like a messenger
Speaker 2: just shows up to be like, hey, I'm okay, and
Speaker 2: you guys are okay, and so it's it's really nice.
Speaker 1: Hello Katie, how are you? Hi?
Speaker 6: Raz I am great? How are you?
Speaker 1: I am so good? Where are you?
Speaker 6: I am in Northern Virginia.
Speaker 1: Northern Virginia. I was reading your email and you sound
Speaker 1: like you are a ghost tour ghost walk queen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so is that like a thing you're into when you
Speaker 1: go different places?
Speaker 6: It is?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've done them in several different cities that I've
Speaker 7: been to.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've talked about this before, and I enjoy
Speaker 1: them a lot, but I feel like usually when I go,
Speaker 1: it's just like there's a building right there, somebody died
Speaker 1: in it, here's the story, all right, let's keep moving,
Speaker 1: and then like nothing ever happens, Like nothing, Like I
Speaker 1: haven't been on one where you like go into like
Speaker 1: a haunted play. Well, actually I have, but nothing's really
Speaker 1: happened to me. But what has happened to you?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 7: So I feel like nothing ever happens to anyone, So I, yes,
Speaker 7: I'm just like the weird exception.
Speaker 1: I need to go with you next time.
Speaker 7: So on my first ever ghost tour, I was like
Speaker 7: eleven years old. I am originally from Maryland, but I
Speaker 7: live in Virginia now and I grew up about like
Speaker 7: an hour or so south of Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, which is
Speaker 7: where the Battle of Gettysburg happened. So obviously there's like
Speaker 7: tons of ghosts there, or allegedly tons of ghosts there.
Speaker 7: And I have always been interested in ghosts for like
Speaker 7: my whole life, even as a kid, which is probably weird.
Speaker 6: I don't know, I was a weird kid. And so
Speaker 6: my mom had wanted to take me.
Speaker 7: To go on a ghost walk in Gettysburg and we
Speaker 7: finally got to go one summer, and uh so nothing
Speaker 7: was happening. I didn't really I was kind of hoping
Speaker 7: there'd be like ghosts, you know, walking around everywhere that
Speaker 7: I would just be seeing or feeling or whatever. And then, uh,
Speaker 7: at one point we went to the it was kind
Speaker 7: of like an alley like behind mind behind like a
Speaker 7: row of houses. It was kind of like in the downtown,
Speaker 7: like Gettysburg town, and there was so there was a
Speaker 7: row of houses on one side of the road and
Speaker 7: on the other side across there was like garages. And
Speaker 7: it was just like a just an alley, kind of
Speaker 7: a wider alley, not a very skinny one. And it
Speaker 7: was paved and in the middle of it there was
Speaker 7: a section of it that was concrete. And let me
Speaker 7: preface this by saying that I cannot like verify that
Speaker 7: this is one historically accurate, but this.
Speaker 6: Is what I was told, was that during the Battle
Speaker 6: of Gettysburg.
Speaker 1: Welcome to ghosted. I never know. I'm always like, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure this is what I've heard. Do take it
Speaker 1: from me? People a Google now, it's fine. Anyone can
Speaker 1: has a computer in their hand at all times.
Speaker 6: Yes, So I try to look it up, but I
Speaker 6: can't verify it. One.
Speaker 7: So in this area that was concrete in this alley
Speaker 7: there it was actually water running underneath it, so that's
Speaker 7: why it was paved differently. And during the Battle of Gettysburg,
Speaker 7: there were soldiers and I don't remember which side they
Speaker 7: were on, but they were stationed like down kind of
Speaker 7: in the ravine.
Speaker 6: Like where the water was, and they weren't allowed to move.
Speaker 7: And this I do know for sure, on the third
Speaker 7: day of the Battle of Gettysburg it rained and stormed,
Speaker 7: so that did actually happen. So allegedly the water started
Speaker 7: to flood and the soldiers that were stationed there weren't
Speaker 7: allowed to move, and apparently some of them kind of
Speaker 7: got swept away and drowned.
Speaker 6: So we were told, you know, when.
Speaker 7: You walk across the concrete, oh, you're gonna feel like
Speaker 7: soldiers reaching up to try to grab onto something to
Speaker 7: stop themselves from drowning. So it's like, oh, that's the
Speaker 7: most stereotypical ghost story ever. Even as an eleven year old.
Speaker 6: I could tell that. So I started walking. I know,
Speaker 6: it's really creepy.
Speaker 7: So I started walking across the concrete and I stepped
Speaker 7: like a step or two, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 7: I felt something on my ankle.
Speaker 6: And it felt kind of like almost like if you
Speaker 6: know how when you.
Speaker 7: Walk through like a cobweb or like a spider web
Speaker 7: and you can kind of feel it, but there's nothing
Speaker 7: like solid there. Yeah, like I describe it as like
Speaker 7: it didn't feel like a little handle my ankle. It
Speaker 7: felt like if there was like a ice cold cobweb
Speaker 7: on my right ankle and The weird part was that
Speaker 7: the whole way across the concrete, it wasn't super far.
Speaker 7: It was like less than ten feet. I felt it,
Speaker 7: and the second I got back to the asphalt, it stopped.
Speaker 3: Oh god.
Speaker 1: So in that moment, are you like, this is what
Speaker 1: I came for. I set out to achieve something and
Speaker 1: I got to encounter a ghost or were you like,
Speaker 1: I'm out of here, this is stupid, this is it was?
Speaker 7: I was a little afraid. I definitely wasn't like this
Speaker 7: is stupid. I was kind of thinking, this is not
Speaker 7: what I expected to happen. I was expecting, you know,
Speaker 7: a go to walk in front of me, which is
Speaker 7: obviously very unrealistic. But I so I was like, well,
Speaker 7: I guess I've had my ghost experience. So I told
Speaker 7: my mom and she was like, oh, okay, Well, like,
Speaker 7: I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 1: Like, but I just remember one of these books that
Speaker 1: I read when I was a kid that was like,
Speaker 1: you know, ghost stories, but like four children, and it
Speaker 1: was like this, these people went to Gettysburg, and you
Speaker 1: know they do like those re enactment shows or whatever
Speaker 1: where the people are all costumed and then pretend they're battling,
Speaker 1: and they're like, wow, we you know, they see this
Speaker 1: this battle and people are just like, you know, they're
Speaker 1: shooting each other, and it's like it looks so crazy
Speaker 1: and realistic. And then they tell like the the people
Speaker 1: that work there and like, I don't know, the gift
Speaker 1: shop or whatever. They're like, hey, the show today was
Speaker 1: so realistic. And then they're like, we didn't have a
Speaker 1: sh show today.
Speaker 6: Yes, that is so creamy. Unfortunately that did not happen.
Speaker 1: I also want to hear the story about your grad
Speaker 1: school apartment.
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, this was the weirdest thing that's ever
Speaker 7: happened to me. And I don't know if it's a ghost,
Speaker 7: but I cannot explain it in any way.
Speaker 1: First of all, grad school, Oh la la, what were you.
Speaker 6: Studying forensic psychology?
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's this interview could go in a
Speaker 1: whole different direction. I have a lot of questions, but
Speaker 1: we'll keep it to this for now. Okay, what happened
Speaker 1: in this apartment?
Speaker 7: Okay, So it's going to sound absolutely ridiculous, but basically,
Speaker 7: I wear glasses or contacts. If I don't have like
Speaker 7: my glasses on, I can't see more than like eight
Speaker 7: inches in front of my face without it being blurry.
Speaker 7: So I can't like function without some kind of visual
Speaker 7: aid based.
Speaker 1: So my w y which I always think about, like
Speaker 1: what if I saw a ghost in the middle of
Speaker 1: the night, like I.
Speaker 6: Write, it would be blurry. You wouldn't you wouldn't be
Speaker 6: a I reached.
Speaker 1: From my glasses, it would be gone. Probably.
Speaker 6: I think about that sometimes too, because.
Speaker 1: I'm always like, these people are like, oh, I woke
Speaker 1: up and I saw this man, and then they, you know,
Speaker 1: they start to describe, Oh, he had five wrinkles on
Speaker 1: his cheek. I'm like, how can you see that far?
Speaker 6: Yes, it's so true. I'm so envious of people who
Speaker 6: can like see. So my roommate was gone for.
Speaker 7: The weekend and I was a clutch and I dropped
Speaker 7: an airing down the sink and I didn't know how
Speaker 7: to get it out, so I had to wait till
Speaker 7: the next day for maintenance to come. So I texted
Speaker 7: my roommate asked if I could use her bathroom for
Speaker 7: the night to like brush my teeth and everything. And
Speaker 7: I didn't actually end up using her bathroom until the
Speaker 7: next morning to like put my contacts in so anyway,
Speaker 7: so I distinctly remember, like watching TV reading, I had
Speaker 7: my glasses like on my and then on the top
Speaker 7: of my head while I was reading, put them away
Speaker 7: on you know, in my glasses case on my bedside table.
Speaker 7: The next morning, I woke up and I could not
Speaker 7: find them anywhere. I was the only person in our apartment.
Speaker 7: I tore my room apart, couldn't find them, went and
Speaker 7: ended up going into my roommate's bathroom and putting my
Speaker 7: contacts in because I figured, well, maybe, you know, maybe
Speaker 7: I'll be able to see to find my glasses. Could
Speaker 7: I find them anywhere even with my contacts in? I
Speaker 7: brought my stuff into her bathroom. I put and I
Speaker 7: say this because I put it like on her counter
Speaker 7: and I had to move this little like box out
Speaker 7: of the way. And then when I was done, I
Speaker 7: moved the box back, picked my stuff back up, brought
Speaker 7: it back into my own bathroom. She got home that afternoon,
Speaker 7: I still hadn't found my glasses, so I went into
Speaker 7: her room to tell her, hey, like, you know, I
Speaker 7: can't find my glasses. If you see them somewhere like
Speaker 7: on a table or something, let me know. And then
Speaker 7: I and when I was walking back out of her room.
Speaker 7: I walked past her bathroom and glasses were sitting on
Speaker 7: top of the little box next to her sink, and
Speaker 7: I had to put them there, and she had gone
Speaker 7: in there when she got home and she said they
Speaker 7: weren't there.
Speaker 1: Did you have other like anything else ever happened in there?
Speaker 6: Not really. I think one time.
Speaker 7: Our like Alexa device like said something randomly in.
Speaker 6: The middle of the night. But I don't know. The
Speaker 6: energy was like a little bit weird there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like my roommate and I were both
Speaker 7: kind of going through a lot, so I feel like
Speaker 7: there was a lot of like negative energy kind of
Speaker 7: just like from us. So I don't know if that
Speaker 7: could have caused it maybe, But nothing.
Speaker 6: Like that ever happened again.
Speaker 7: But it was just so significant that like, yeah, I
Speaker 7: don't know, it was very weird, but it was also
Speaker 7: it was it was just outside of Alexandria, Virginia, which
Speaker 7: is another old, very old historical town.
Speaker 6: It wasn't in the downtown, but it was right outside
Speaker 6: of it.
Speaker 7: So you know, that area has been around for a
Speaker 7: very long time, so it's totally possible that it could
Speaker 7: have been haunted and just not.
Speaker 6: We just didn't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean maybe it was like a windy day
Speaker 1: and one of those ghosts like blew in for a minute. Yes,
Speaker 1: But I mean like that's the thing with like talking
Speaker 1: about this stuff all the time. For me on this
Speaker 1: podcast is like, sure, I have this idea, as most
Speaker 1: of us do, where like these weird things happen in
Speaker 1: your home if somebody died there or whatever. But it's
Speaker 1: like there's so many things it could be a ghost.
Speaker 1: That's like, oh, I don't really want attention, so I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna like chill for a while. And then one
Speaker 1: day they're like, you know what, I think I could
Speaker 1: help Katie out and then just like okay, I'll do
Speaker 1: my ghost thing for like five seconds and I'm going
Speaker 1: back to my little ghost closet or whatever. Or it's
Speaker 1: like it could be some kind of I don't know,
Speaker 1: Guardian angel or you know, it's like it could be
Speaker 1: so many things. Yes, I say it's paranormal.
Speaker 6: I think so too. I've always said it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, speaking of you want to hear a ghost
Speaker 1: voice with me? Oh my gosh, yes, Okay, let's listen
Speaker 1: to an EVP EVP or evase. So this one is
Speaker 1: from Soulmate's Paranormal on YouTube, and I couldn't really tell where.
Speaker 1: It just says that it's at a private residence in
Speaker 1: a children's bedroom, I know, So tell me what this says. Okay,
Speaker 1: of course, it's like real quick, I'll do it again.
Speaker 6: Is it like I see that.
Speaker 1: I see that it's definitely like a whispery. It sounds
Speaker 1: aggressive to me. Wait, let's play it again. Ooh, I
Speaker 1: can hear that. I see that.
Speaker 6: It's definitely like three words. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know that.
Speaker 6: I see that as right, but I know it's three words.
Speaker 1: Well, i'll give you some options. One of these is
Speaker 1: what they believe it says. Is it a nestleie chocolate?
Speaker 1: Is it B nasty child? Is it C that's too much?
Speaker 1: Or D Nancy Grace.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say nasty child.
Speaker 1: Okay, that is what they think. They think it's this
Speaker 1: nasty child, which I can hear.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and they're in a kid's room.
Speaker 1: Right, so that makes sense. That's a clue. Let me
Speaker 1: play it again. I mean I also hear Nestley chocolate, Yes.
Speaker 6: Yes, definitely. Maybe they wanted some.
Speaker 1: Cookies maybe, or maybe it was Nancy Grays. I've been
Speaker 1: ghosted too, from my hometown of Grand Rapids, Michigan. Julia, Hello,
Speaker 1: how are.
Speaker 6: You, Hiroz? I'm so good. How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm so good? And I love that you're from my hometown.
Speaker 6: I love that you're from where I'm from.
Speaker 1: Have you been to haunted places in Grand Rabbits, Michigan?
Speaker 7: I have not, unfortunately, But so you spoke about the
Speaker 7: Ada witch and I work in Aida, and so every
Speaker 7: time I'm driving home, I'm like keeping an eye out
Speaker 7: on the road.
Speaker 6: I'm like, ooh, maybe I'll see your totally.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you should go to that cemetery. It
Speaker 1: is so it's called I think it's called the Findley
Speaker 1: Cemetery f I N L. E. Y.
Speaker 3: Finley.
Speaker 1: I think that's what it's called. Don't quote me. But
Speaker 1: it's like on this dark, uh kind of like country road.
Speaker 1: Maybe this is just in my mind, but I want
Speaker 1: to say it's like a dirt road and it's like
Speaker 1: one lane, and especially at night time, it's pitch black
Speaker 1: because there's like trees everywhere. And then there's this little
Speaker 1: cemetery with like a creaky old gate and apparently that's
Speaker 1: where she haunts.
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, well, Witch all workers who also love
Speaker 7: your podcast, So maybe we should make like an afterwork
Speaker 7: trip out of it one day.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you guys can be correspondents reporting live
Speaker 1: from the Findley Cemetery in Ada, Michigan. Yes, can you
Speaker 1: tell me a ghost story?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 7: So, the one that I had emailed you about, like
Speaker 7: the main one, happened around Christmas of twenty eighteen. I
Speaker 7: was visiting my mom's side of the family for Christmas
Speaker 7: in Corpus Christie, Texas, and we were staying in my
Speaker 7: aunt's house. And the first question I ask, any time
Speaker 7: I go anywhere new, is this place haunted?
Speaker 6: And I don't know. I just do it for fun.
Speaker 7: I've like always been really into the pair of normal,
Speaker 7: but also kind of to like prepare myself just in
Speaker 7: case the place is, but really just for the reassurance
Speaker 7: that it's not but my mom or I'm sorry, not
Speaker 7: my mom. My aunt said that it was that there's
Speaker 7: like a mail energy that lingers around, and I just
Speaker 7: tried to put that out of my mind. Nothing really
Speaker 7: happened the first couple of days that I was there,
Speaker 7: but one night I'm in my room that I was
Speaker 7: staying in there, and I was sleeping. I had kind
Speaker 7: of I had just gone to bed, so it was
Speaker 7: kind of that like half asleep half awake space where
Speaker 7: all of the spooky things tend to happen.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, and I.
Speaker 7: Heard and I can still hear it as clear as
Speaker 7: day in my left ear. It was like it was
Speaker 7: like a scream of a like a man voice saying
Speaker 7: something along the lines of like I'm gonna show you
Speaker 7: that this house is haunted, and then started like screaming
Speaker 7: in my ear, just like nah. And then my bed
Speaker 7: started shaking, and so I screamed bloody murder and like
Speaker 7: really in real life. And I woke up from it,
Speaker 7: and it woke up my aunt and uncle. It woke
Speaker 7: up my mom and dad and everybody just like ran
Speaker 7: to my room and we're like, oh my god, what's wrong.
Speaker 6: Are you okay? And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: I'm fine.
Speaker 2: I'm fine.
Speaker 7: I just had a bad dream. And then you know,
Speaker 7: we all went back to bed. And then the next
Speaker 7: day I was out shopping with my mom and she
Speaker 7: she's always been really into the paranormal too, and she's
Speaker 7: had a lot of her own experiences, and so she
Speaker 7: was kind of she was asking me about it. She
Speaker 7: was like, Julia, like, what happened? And it took me
Speaker 7: a minute to tell her I didn't. I don't know,
Speaker 7: like to not talk about it made it feel like
Speaker 7: maybe it just wasn't real. So eventually she got it
Speaker 7: out of me, though, And so later that night I
Speaker 7: went out and while I was gone, apparently my mom
Speaker 7: told me this later, But my mom went into the
Speaker 7: room that I was staying in and she was kind
Speaker 7: of like.
Speaker 6: Talking to whatever energy was there.
Speaker 7: She was like, you need to leave, like you don't
Speaker 7: belong here, blah blah blah blah blah. So and then
Speaker 7: later that night, my mom goes to bed and she
Speaker 7: has about a sleep paralysis, and in the corner of
Speaker 7: the room she sees like this male figure and she,
Speaker 7: you know, she can't move, she can't scream, she can't talk,
Speaker 7: she can't do anything. And then she told me about
Speaker 7: it the next day and we were just like, what
Speaker 7: what happened?
Speaker 1: And so, wait, but what happened to you that night?
Speaker 1: Like was it peaceful in your room?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I just really didn't sleep, Okay, I sleep the rest
Speaker 7: of the time that I was there, So nothing else
Speaker 7: happened to me while I was there in regards to
Speaker 7: like experiencing that presence or hearing it again. So, but
Speaker 7: my mom she had the sleep paralysis. And then the
Speaker 7: next day, my another aunt and uncle came over to
Speaker 7: visit us, and we are like a we're we're a
Speaker 7: Mexican family, but my family down there is also like
Speaker 7: super Catholic, and I have an aunt and uncle who
Speaker 7: are really involved in their church. They're really involved in
Speaker 7: like prayer groups, and they have supported I don't know
Speaker 7: if I want to like call it exorcisms because that
Speaker 7: feels really extreme, but essentially they support that. And so
Speaker 7: we were telling my mom, or we were telling my
Speaker 7: aunt and uncle what happened to me and my mom,
Speaker 7: and they were like, oh, yeah, you know, your mom
Speaker 7: pissed it off because I guess like only the owner
Speaker 7: of a house can kind of banish any sort of energy.
Speaker 7: I don't know if all of that is true or not,
Speaker 7: but essentially my mom pissed it off by trying to
Speaker 7: make it go away. So that's why she had the
Speaker 7: sleep paralysis.
Speaker 1: But wait, wait, the people that live there, so like,
Speaker 1: what kind of stuff would be happening.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so my aunt and uncle said that they will
Speaker 7: be like sitting in the living room watching TV. They'll
Speaker 7: see a shadow go by there, They'll hear footsteps, but
Speaker 7: it doesn't bother them. It's just something that they are
Speaker 7: aware is there, and they kind of just coexist together.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this ghost is not used to being yelled
Speaker 1: right exactly. This ghost is like you just being like
Speaker 1: hanging out with your aunt and uncle and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, these people come in and they're.
Speaker 7: Like, god it yeah yeah, and I mean her house,
Speaker 7: like you could tell there was like a heavy vibe
Speaker 7: to it.
Speaker 6: Anyway.
Speaker 7: It's also probably because she just like never opens the curtains,
Speaker 7: but like it's super dark in there and it just
Speaker 7: feels heavy and stuffy.
Speaker 1: And so you know, oh, so the ghost is in
Speaker 1: paradise totally.
Speaker 6: Totally. It's like this whole house is basically a basement
Speaker 6: for me.
Speaker 7: Okay, great, And even my dad, who's like the most
Speaker 7: skeptical person ever, like he would never admit that anything
Speaker 7: is going on, even he you know, while we were
Speaker 7: talking to my other aunt and uncle, the ones who
Speaker 7: came to visit us, that like, oh yeah, you know,
Speaker 7: I was watching TV last night and you know I
Speaker 7: heard it go by, and so everyone's admitting that, like
Speaker 7: there's this energy in the home and that it's kind
Speaker 7: of minds its own business. But for whatever reason, it
Speaker 7: was like attacking me and my mom. So my aunt
Speaker 7: and uncle, the ones that are super involved in their church,
Speaker 7: they started praying over me. They like put their hands
Speaker 7: on my forehead and had me close my eyes and
Speaker 7: were doing whatever prayer blessing that they do essentially with
Speaker 7: like their clients and their church. And I started to
Speaker 7: just feel so nauseous, like I felt like I was
Speaker 7: going to vomit. I just I felt ill. And then
Speaker 7: that you know, that persisted for a little while. They
Speaker 7: prayed over me this last and maybe fifteen to twenty minutes,
Speaker 7: and eventually, like the ill feeling went away, and I
Speaker 7: started to feel this like warmth run from the tops
Speaker 7: of my shoulders like down my arms.
Speaker 6: And they kept praying.
Speaker 7: They kept praying, they kept praying, and once they were done,
Speaker 7: they to me how I was feeling, and then I
Speaker 7: told them that I experienced those like physical symptoms while
Speaker 7: they were doing what they were doing, and they were
Speaker 7: essentially like, yeah, you know, like the nausea that you
Speaker 7: were feeling, that ill feeling was like whatever was attaching
Speaker 7: itself to you like leaving, and then the warmth that
Speaker 7: you were experiencing was like Jesus like coming over you.
Speaker 7: And I'm not I'm not religious, like I'm super spiritual,
Speaker 7: but I still believe that whatever higher power it was
Speaker 7: like was like it was just an experience that you
Speaker 7: can't shake. I don't know, I don't I don't know
Speaker 7: how it was to explain it, but it I.
Speaker 1: Mean, I'm also not religious and I'm and the thing
Speaker 1: that I'm always afraid of is like if that was
Speaker 1: to happen to me and then people prayed and it
Speaker 1: made the thing go away, I would feel like, Okay,
Speaker 1: now I need to like become a non and devot
Speaker 1: my life to Catholics, right.
Speaker 7: I know, I became like super Catholic for like two
Speaker 7: weeks after that, I was like, nah, I don't like this,
Speaker 7: let me go back to my crystals and Carol cards please.
Speaker 1: But I mean again, it's like that it could be
Speaker 1: that that's it's just that conviction, Like clearly, your your
Speaker 1: aunt and uncle very much believe that, and the power
Speaker 1: of that belief is what can chew something away. And
Speaker 1: I think that it's possible that the same can be
Speaker 1: said about you know, burning Paalo santo or sage or
Speaker 1: crystals or whatever it is that you believe. It seems
Speaker 1: to me, I don't know nothing, abound nothing, but it
Speaker 1: seems to me like that could be what it is.
Speaker 1: After talking to so many professionals about this kind of.
Speaker 7: Thing, I completely agree. It's like you're setting that intention,
Speaker 7: you're setting that protection, you're setting those boundaries, those limits,
Speaker 7: and it just really whatever religion or ideology you're coming from,
Speaker 7: or even if it's just spirituality, like it's all the same,
Speaker 7: you just call it different things.
Speaker 6: It seems right.
Speaker 7: But so after that, I was still feeling pretty anxious.
Speaker 7: And a while after, maybe an hour later, they checked
Speaker 7: on me again and they were like, how are you doing,
Speaker 7: how are you feeling? And I told them that I
Speaker 7: was just still feeling like kind of heavy. Like I
Speaker 7: felt better, but I just felt like a heaviness in
Speaker 7: my chest, like just a lot of anxiety. So then
Speaker 7: my aunt she takes off her crucifix that she was wearing.
Speaker 7: They just always wear necklaces with crosses on them, and
Speaker 7: she put it on me and I just instantly felt lighter.
Speaker 7: It was the weirdest thing. And I told her that.
Speaker 7: She was like, oh yeah, it's blessed with an exorcism prayer.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my god, oh wow. So they're
Speaker 1: like really into the exorcism thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just carry around exorcism right exactly.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 7: Maybe they're afraid that they're going to pick up whatever
Speaker 7: energy just like going to the grocery store.
Speaker 1: Now, do you think that that was like a coincidence
Speaker 1: that they happened to be there at this time, or
Speaker 1: do you do did they already know, like I have
Speaker 1: a feeling that this ghost is gonna it is gonna
Speaker 1: possess Julia, or like you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: did they know that they were entering a haunted house?
Speaker 1: I can't remember what you said about that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I don't think they walked in expecting to
Speaker 7: hear this story from me and my mom.
Speaker 6: But they've you know, they've visited.
Speaker 7: That house before, and they have confirmed also that like,
Speaker 7: oh yeah, there's definitely some some presence here. But when
Speaker 7: they were when they came over that day to visit,
Speaker 7: they were just visiting, because we go down to visit
Speaker 7: them like only every few years.
Speaker 1: They sound like the Mexican Ed and Lorraine Warren and
Speaker 1: I want that movie. They are Oh my god, they
Speaker 1: are Oh my god.
Speaker 6: I never thought about that before.
Speaker 7: That was that experience, okay, And it still is so terrifying.
Speaker 7: And my mom and I talk about it all the
Speaker 7: time still and we're just like, I can't believe we
Speaker 7: shared that together, but also really glad that we shared
Speaker 7: that experience together. I think just like it was super
Speaker 7: validating for the both of us that what what just
Speaker 7: happened was real.
Speaker 1: Did they like get the ghost out of there? Or
Speaker 1: do you think it's still there?
Speaker 7: I think it's still there. They didn't do anything to
Speaker 7: cleanse the home. They were just trying to remove the
Speaker 7: attachment from whatever was attaching itself to me, or whatever
Speaker 7: level of attachment it was.
Speaker 6: They were just trying to like cut.
Speaker 1: That got it, Okay, that ghost.
Speaker 6: Is probably still lingering.
Speaker 1: There's a ghost in my house. Hello Jay in West Hollywood.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, thank you?
Speaker 1: How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm terrific.
Speaker 1: I am so fascinated by the email you sent me.
Speaker 1: It sounds like there's a lot of things going on here,
Speaker 1: but there's a witch in Mexico that I feel like
Speaker 1: we got to get to what is this story?
Speaker 3: Jay? So in two thousand and nine, some friends and
Speaker 3: I decided to sell all of our worldly belongings and
Speaker 3: buy an RV and we wing to drive from Oakland, California,
Speaker 3: to Costa Rica to start basically a commune in the jungle. Whoa.
Speaker 3: And we we're not good planners and we're just like
Speaker 3: this ratead group of hippies. So of course we don't
Speaker 3: have any contingency plan or anything. And we run out
Speaker 3: of money in Mexico and there's nothing we can do
Speaker 3: because we can't drive the RB, we can't feed ourselves,
Speaker 3: there's nothing we can do. But we eventually like we
Speaker 3: can get little pockets of money here and there from
Speaker 3: people who take pity on us. And so we make
Speaker 3: our way very slowly through Mexico and we decide to
Speaker 3: camp next to this river that we heard about that
Speaker 3: has this waterfall that people go to, and we wash
Speaker 3: our laundry in the river. I'm hanging it up to
Speaker 3: dry and this man out of nowhere is standing next
Speaker 3: to me and he says, have you seen my keys?
Speaker 3: And I was like, no, I don't think I have.
Speaker 3: And then I realized, oh, he's speaking English to me,
Speaker 3: and I turn around and look, and there he's just
Speaker 3: like the most normal looking person you can think of.
Speaker 3: And I said, I haven't seen your keys. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: It's what a terrible place to lose your keys, frankly,
Speaker 3: and we start talking and he says, I'm camped down
Speaker 3: the way along the river, so please come join me tonight.
Speaker 3: We'll have hot dogs. And I thought that sounds great.
Speaker 3: Like I said, we were all starving. So we go
Speaker 3: to his campsite late at night and we have a
Speaker 3: campfire and we rose hot dogs and we're telling ghost
Speaker 3: stories to each other, and he's telling us Mexican ghost stories.
Speaker 3: We're telling them all of our sad stories that honestly
Speaker 3: do not compare to his stories.
Speaker 1: Mexican ghost stories are some of the scariest stories.
Speaker 3: They are so scary, and ours are just they sucked.
Speaker 3: So anyway, I said, hey, I'm making pancakes for breakfast
Speaker 3: in the morning. Why don't you come to our campsite
Speaker 3: and we'll cook you breakfast. And he says sure. And
Speaker 3: the next I get up and I make breakfast and
Speaker 3: there's no sign of him. So I fix the plate
Speaker 3: and I carry it down to his campsite. And there
Speaker 3: like was no campsite, there was no sign of anyone
Speaker 3: ever being there, there was no fire pit, there was nothing,
Speaker 3: like there were no tracks from his car there. He
Speaker 3: had a car. He had this tiny little pup tent
Speaker 3: like snoopy sleeps in, like just like the fabric over
Speaker 3: the stick, and there was nothing there. And so we're
Speaker 3: joking and we're like, haha, he must have been a ghost.
Speaker 3: And we would refer to him like, remember, like having
Speaker 3: hot dogs with the ghost. Wasn't that funny, you know,
Speaker 3: because we were in Mexico for months at a time,
Speaker 3: so it just was one of our funny memories. Well,
Speaker 3: we're driving down an hour in Wahaka, like the beach
Speaker 3: in Whaka, and at this point we all hate each
Speaker 3: other because it's going very badly. And so I see
Speaker 3: a sign that says to the beach, and I say,
Speaker 3: I need to go swimming. I am I'm really hot
Speaker 3: and there's mosquitos all over me and I can't stand
Speaker 3: this and I hate all of you. So I'm going swimming.
Speaker 3: And we get to this place and it's the most
Speaker 3: beautiful place I've ever seen in my life. There's a
Speaker 3: lagoon that's beautifully clear, and there's like stingrays swimming in
Speaker 3: the water and pelicans. It's just Eden. It was so beautiful.
Speaker 3: And on our like third day there there's this woman
Speaker 3: walking along the beach in this long, flowy white skirt
Speaker 3: and she has this pink shirt on and she comes
Speaker 3: up to me while I'm sleeping on the beach and
Speaker 3: she says, have you seen my spaceship? And I open
Speaker 3: my eyes and I'm like what, and she repeated herself.
Speaker 3: And I'm a smartest, so I was like, yeah, I
Speaker 3: saw it over there, Keep walking, lady. And she came
Speaker 3: back the next day, have you seen my spaceship? And
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, Like why do you keep asking
Speaker 3: me this? I told you. I was just very short
Speaker 3: with her.
Speaker 1: Now, keys, I can understand losing right spaceship.
Speaker 3: A whole spaceship. So I didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 3: I just thought, you know, she was just living on
Speaker 3: the beach like ourselves, and so, you know, more power
Speaker 3: to her. But I wasn't getting involved. But she comes
Speaker 3: by enough times. I'm like, okay, tell me about this spaceship.
Speaker 3: What am I looking for? And she tells me this story.
Speaker 3: Her name is Felicity and she was a nurse in
Speaker 3: the French part of Canada, so she had a really
Speaker 3: pronounced accent. And this woman went into a coma and
Speaker 3: she experienced what's called a walk in. She said, when
Speaker 3: an alien spirit now lives in this body. They got
Speaker 3: rid of Felicity and a new spirit lives in her body.
Speaker 1: But when you say alien, we're not talking like outer
Speaker 1: space alien.
Speaker 3: Yeah, outer space alien, well, interdimensional. She said, she's from
Speaker 3: the fifth dimension, where she has a family. Her people
Speaker 3: sent her here because Earth is like on the cusp
Speaker 3: of understanding new things and enlightening humankind. Right, this is
Speaker 3: what she's saying. So they sent her here because there's
Speaker 3: basically stargates and she had to open the stargates like
Speaker 3: this portal so they can get through. And they were
Speaker 3: all in Mexico. There were three of them in their triangle,
Speaker 3: and the very last one, she said, was in this
Speaker 3: lagoon where we were all camping. And yeah, so she
Speaker 3: wakes up from this coma as a new person. She
Speaker 3: gets on a plane using I'm assuming the dead Felicity's money.
Speaker 3: I don't know if this new person had any kind
Speaker 3: of money, but she said she realized on the plane
Speaker 3: to Hawaii because that's where she knew she had to go.
Speaker 3: That she didn't speak English, and Hawaii's and America, and
Speaker 3: she's like, what am I going to do? But she
Speaker 3: gets off the plane and there's someone at the airport
Speaker 3: at six something foot tall Native American man who comes
Speaker 3: up to her and he says, Felicity, I've been waiting
Speaker 3: for you. And then he goes and teaches her how
Speaker 3: to be a healer of Earth and also teaches her English.
Speaker 3: And so after there, like tutelage was over, she goes
Speaker 3: to Mexico to start this journey. Right, so here we are,
Speaker 3: she's got two these gates open. The last one is
Speaker 3: out in the ocean where we're camping, and she's like,
Speaker 3: I'm a tired old lady. I can't even afford my
Speaker 3: own food. How am I supposed to go out there
Speaker 3: and do this?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 3: I'm done? And the reason she was looking for her
Speaker 3: spaceship was because she was expecting to die any day now,
Speaker 3: and the spaceship was going to take her back to
Speaker 3: her people. And then the body of Felicity was just
Speaker 3: going to be left in Mexico. I guess so right,
Speaker 3: it's a very weird story. But then I'm thinking, like, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm pretty weird too, and I'm having this really wild
Speaker 3: trip of a lifetime, permanent vacation kind of situation, and
Speaker 3: I thought, maybe I should help this old woman achieve
Speaker 3: what she wants to do, right, So I think I'll
Speaker 3: help her with her spell. And she's teaching me this
Speaker 3: chant and ancient Hebrew and these signs that I have
Speaker 3: to like write on myself. And then I think, my
Speaker 3: I like extra special piece of the spell is I'm
Speaker 3: going to take this big ten pound hunk of rose
Speaker 3: quirts that I brought with me and I'm gonna like
Speaker 3: sacrifice it to the ocean. So I go out there
Speaker 3: and the waves become enormous, and no matter what I
Speaker 3: can do, I cannot swim past the breakers, and this
Speaker 3: huge wave slams me into the seabed and I lose
Speaker 3: my rock okay, because I didn't have pocket, So I
Speaker 3: lose my rose quartz immediately, and I try. I swim
Speaker 3: out there for like forty five minutes. I could not
Speaker 3: get out there, and eventually I had to swim back
Speaker 3: because I was worried that I was going to die.
Speaker 3: And so basically I screwed the whole thing up. But
Speaker 3: when I get out of the water, Felicity's like, did
Speaker 3: you do it? Did it work? And I was like, yes,
Speaker 3: it worked perfectly, it just like you wanted it too.
Speaker 3: And so Felicity is like, great, now my mission is over.
Speaker 3: And she was just ready for a good time. Her
Speaker 3: work was over. Now she can relax. But essentially she
Speaker 3: was homeless and had no money. And we did get
Speaker 3: some money at some point so we could continue our trip,
Speaker 3: but we decided to stay there for a while, and
Speaker 3: we got Felicity a room in a hostel and we
Speaker 3: paid for two of her meals every day, and we were,
Speaker 3: you know, eating lunch and dinner with her every day too,
Speaker 3: and so we were friends, and she did reikie on me.
Speaker 3: She got a little sick at one point, so I
Speaker 3: gave her a pendant of mine, hoping that she could
Speaker 3: like draw energy from it to keep herself strong. But
Speaker 3: then the months go by and nothing changes, and Felicity
Speaker 3: is still in good health, and you know, she hasn't died,
Speaker 3: and so she's going around town like word had got
Speaker 3: out that she was a bit of a psychic or something,
Speaker 3: and so everyone started to consult her. When their daughter
Speaker 3: wanted to get married, they would come to Felicity for
Speaker 3: a blessing. When they wanted to sell land, they would
Speaker 3: come to Felicity for a blessing. And she wasn't giving blessings.
Speaker 3: She was saying everyone was cursed, Like if you sell
Speaker 3: this land, this tree on this land told me it's
Speaker 3: an ancient sacred sight, and if you sell this land,
Speaker 3: there's going to be a curse on you and you'll die.
Speaker 3: And this is what she's telling everyone. So eventually I'm like,
Speaker 3: I won't allow this. You need to stop bobbing all
Speaker 3: these people and frightening them. And she's like, I'm a sidekick,
Speaker 3: I know, And I'm like, I'm a sidekick too, so
Speaker 3: I know, like I won't allow this, And she ends
Speaker 3: up getting into a big fight with me, and so
Speaker 3: we decided to stop paying for her hotel room and
Speaker 3: to stop paying for her meals, and we basically like
Speaker 3: ran her out of town. So now we're having in Mexico,
Speaker 3: having a great time, and Felicity's not bothering us anymore.
Speaker 3: One day, I wake up. This is just a little tangent,
Speaker 3: but you'll see why. I wake up and there's a
Speaker 3: little tent underneath my window, and I look out and
Speaker 3: I was like, that's weird, what a dumb place to camp.
Speaker 3: And then I go down to the restaurant and I
Speaker 3: see someone that I think I recognize, but it's been
Speaker 3: a while, and it hit me it's the ghost from
Speaker 3: the river that we were camping on. This was one
Speaker 3: thousand miles away, it was in a different direction than
Speaker 3: he was traveling, and yet here he is in this
Speaker 3: other town, in a different state, camping right underneath my window.
Speaker 3: What So I'm like, oh my gosh, why I remember you?
Speaker 3: What happened? And he goes, well, that night after you
Speaker 3: guys left, I heard laughter on the road and I
Speaker 3: thought it was you guys like coming to play prank
Speaker 3: on me. So I grabbed my flashlight and I went
Speaker 3: out to meet you between our two campsites, where there's
Speaker 3: just like sugar cane fields and a river. And he
Speaker 3: got halfway down the road and realized we weren't anywhere around,
Speaker 3: and he heard laughter coming from the sugar cane fields,
Speaker 3: and so he shined his light into the sugar cane
Speaker 3: and he said he saw red eyes staring back at him.
Speaker 3: So he goes back to his campsite, and removes all
Speaker 3: the sign that he was there, and he drives away.
Speaker 3: And there was a gatehouse at the top of the
Speaker 3: road where a man lived and he would let you
Speaker 3: have access to this land. But he had to honk
Speaker 3: his horn to get the gate man out because it
Speaker 3: was like two in the morning. So the gateman comes
Speaker 3: out and he says to him, why didn't you tell me?
Speaker 3: And the gateman said, because you wouldn't have stayed here
Speaker 3: if I did. Those are the ghosts of children, and
Speaker 3: they protect my sugar cane fields.
Speaker 1: So that's probably so much more effective than like a
Speaker 1: guard dog like the ard ghost children.
Speaker 3: Would they oh, my god, like the hound of the basketball.
Speaker 1: So he wasn't a ghost.
Speaker 3: No, he wasn't a ghost, but he had a ghost
Speaker 3: story to tell me after we met up with each
Speaker 3: other again, which I thought was so interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's so weird because I really thought he
Speaker 1: was a ghost at the beginning. So so he why
Speaker 1: was he? Why was he where you were? Was he
Speaker 1: looking for you guys?
Speaker 3: Or no, he was just traveling around the first time
Speaker 3: that we met him, he said that he was a
Speaker 3: couple of months out of starting a really good job
Speaker 3: and he just wanted to see all of Mexico, so
Speaker 3: he was driving around, but he was from the weird.
Speaker 3: He was driving north, like to Laredo, but we were
Speaker 3: driving south, coming from California, and he ended up back
Speaker 3: south and was camping right there. So he and I
Speaker 3: spent a couple of days together. We went hiking. It
Speaker 3: was fun.
Speaker 1: But you guys didn't encounter the sugarcane ghosts.
Speaker 3: No, we didn't, Thank goodness.
Speaker 1: That is that is so weird in all of Mexico.
Speaker 1: To run back into this person.
Speaker 3: Isn't that strange? It's always been. And I got his email,
Speaker 3: but of course I lost the little slip of paper
Speaker 3: it was written on, and I just always wish I
Speaker 3: could contact him somehow again. It would be so great
Speaker 3: to catch up with him, But it wouldn't that be
Speaker 3: the maybe.
Speaker 1: It'll be Maybe you'll see him in West Hollywood.
Speaker 3: That would be nice. I think. I can't be sure, though,
Speaker 3: But yeah.
Speaker 1: Did you ever see Felicity again? Or is that the
Speaker 1: end to her?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 3: So, Okay, it's December now, it's right before Christmas, and
Speaker 3: I'm going back to California because I've had enough. It's
Speaker 3: been a long trip and this person that I went
Speaker 3: on my trip with who we both hate each other now.
Speaker 3: But on that last day, she runs up and she's like,
Speaker 3: do you want me to tell you or do you
Speaker 3: want to see for yourself? And I was like, wow,
Speaker 3: see for myself, obviously, and she takes me to the
Speaker 3: window and there's Felicity walking on the beach like the day.
Speaker 3: I had already called the taxi to take me to
Speaker 3: the airport, I had my bags packed, and there's Felicity
Speaker 3: in the same spot I saw her on our first
Speaker 3: like days in this village, and so I go downstairs.
Speaker 3: I was like, wow, Felicity, weird seeing you, and I
Speaker 3: said how are you? And she goes much better when
Speaker 3: you are not screwing up my life, and I was like, well,
Speaker 3: then I have good news for you. I'm leaving for
Speaker 3: the airport and I guess there's no one to keep
Speaker 3: you out of town anymore, so welcome back. And she
Speaker 3: just like turned and walked away. So that was kind
Speaker 3: of end. And then a couple maybe months go by,
Speaker 3: maybe a year, and I'm just noticing this string of
Speaker 3: bad luck and how I always feel terrible, and I
Speaker 3: realized that I was wearing the pendant that I had
Speaker 3: let her borrow in Mexico to help her feel better,
Speaker 3: and I just feel like she really connected with that
Speaker 3: pendant and maybe she was kind of surreptitiously sending me
Speaker 3: a curse or something. And I thought, okay, well, I'll
Speaker 3: just do a little ritual to get rid of like
Speaker 3: whatever hold she has on this. And it was this
Speaker 3: little thing made out of obsidian, and I took the
Speaker 3: tip of a knife to it, like just barely touched it,
Speaker 3: and the thing exploded. What yes, it did. I barely
Speaker 3: touched the tip of my knife to it. And I
Speaker 3: was going to like mutter some words over and be
Speaker 3: like the spell is broken. But I just barely touched
Speaker 3: the tip of it, and the whole thing like across
Speaker 3: the living room. It was just like pocus Pocus. I
Speaker 3: was half scared, but also like very impressed with my
Speaker 3: own ability at curse breaking. So you know, it was
Speaker 3: just I was feeling a lot of feelings and that
Speaker 3: was the last connection I had with Felicity. I don't
Speaker 3: know if she's living or dead. I assume she's dead
Speaker 3: because she was old and very homeless, so I don't know.
Speaker 3: But that's those are my stories from Mexico. Was your
Speaker 3: life better after that? Yes? Wow.
Speaker 1: So, having spent time with this Felicity person, do you
Speaker 1: feel that there is truth to the alien storyline.
Speaker 3: I've had a lot of time to think about this,
Speaker 3: and I feel like I do, or at the very least.
Speaker 3: She believed it so so much that I knew she
Speaker 3: was telling me the truth. Whether it was true or not,
Speaker 3: she believed. It's so hard. But then I started asking
Speaker 3: friends about it. I have this friend who's a fantastic astrologer,
Speaker 3: and she knows all of the weird theories that are
Speaker 3: out there, and she was telling me, Yeah, there are
Speaker 3: people who believe this. They're called Pleadians. They the Pleadians
Speaker 3: come from another part of the universe and they come
Speaker 3: here and their whole thing is about you know, energy
Speaker 3: transfer and time travel and all of this stuff. And
Speaker 3: she's like, it sounds like this lady believes that she
Speaker 3: is one. Yeah, it was. It's very interesting. I've started
Speaker 3: reading about that as well, just because I have to
Speaker 3: understand more. I I mean, even though it happened to me,
Speaker 3: I still don't understand it. So I do try and
Speaker 3: learn more. But then I hear these really bizarre things
Speaker 3: and I think that can't possibly be true, and then
Speaker 3: I stopped reading the book. But is it any crazier
Speaker 3: than the story I've just told you? Like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean that's what every day I'm like, who am
Speaker 1: I to say? What is real and what isn't?
Speaker 3: You know? Wait?
Speaker 1: You hear and you experience things all the time that
Speaker 1: are like, there's no if I told somebody this, there's
Speaker 1: no way they would believe me.
Speaker 3: Well, exactly. And that's like one of my other ghost stories.
Speaker 3: I never told anyone about this ghost until someone else
Speaker 3: was like, who is that little girl? And why is
Speaker 3: she all wet? And I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: you see it too?
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, who can we hear that one?
Speaker 3: This is after I get back from Mexico. But I'm
Speaker 3: living in Oakland with a new boyfriend and we get
Speaker 3: into this apartment and there's a really long haunt wait
Speaker 3: to get down to our door. And he's very superstitious,
Speaker 3: so he was always like, oh, there's a ghost down there,
Speaker 3: and I just thought he was being silly. But I
Speaker 3: always saw this same image of the little girl in
Speaker 3: a white dress, long dark hair. I mean, she looked
Speaker 3: just like the girl from the ring, if I'm honest,
Speaker 3: because she was all wet, and so I think to myself, like,
Speaker 3: that's just my subconscious right, it's just the little girl
Speaker 3: from the ring. It's nobody. But then a friend drove
Speaker 3: me home one day. He comes upstairs for a glass
Speaker 3: of wine and he goes, who's that little girl and
Speaker 3: why is she all wet? And I was so stunned
Speaker 3: that anyone else could see her. I just said, like,
Speaker 3: you could see her too, and he said yeah. So
Speaker 3: she was always like a scary kind of spirit and
Speaker 3: would bother people. And I got tired of it, because
Speaker 3: you know, people always felt uneasy, and so I went
Speaker 3: to her and I was like, look, little girl, I
Speaker 3: don't know who you are, but you can't just stand
Speaker 3: in my hobby and make everyone feel uncomfortable. Like you
Speaker 3: got to get it together and like smile, chase fall
Speaker 3: I don't care, but you can't just stand here doing this.
Speaker 3: I was a teacher at the time, and so I
Speaker 3: was like giving my good teacher discipline and so.
Speaker 1: A hobby like just staring at people in all all
Speaker 1: over the floor, that's.
Speaker 3: Not a hobby. Like do something else. Yeah, so she
Speaker 3: did the next time I saw her, she had kind
Speaker 3: of a smile, and I thought it was cute, and
Speaker 3: so then I felt like, oh, now I have this
Speaker 3: friend who lives in my hallway. She's a ghost. Well
Speaker 3: years go by and then it's time for me to move,
Speaker 3: and I, since I was friends with the ghost, I
Speaker 3: was like, why don't you come with me to my
Speaker 3: new place. I'm going to miss you. And when I
Speaker 3: got to my new house, I sort of like invoked
Speaker 3: her spirit. I was like, please come, I hope you
Speaker 3: come and enjoy it. And then I did see her again,
Speaker 3: and she's walking around very slowly, barefoot, looking in all
Speaker 3: the rooms like, oh, isn't that interesting? And she goes
Speaker 3: into the kitchen and she starts spinning around and she
Speaker 3: gets this like big, wide eyed smile on her face.
Speaker 3: And I have this image in my head, like a
Speaker 3: vision of her standing next to a woman at a
Speaker 3: stove cooking, like holding on to the lower half of
Speaker 3: her dress, and she like hugged her mom and she
Speaker 3: like spun around and disappeared, and I've never seen her again.
Speaker 1: Whoa And so she just looked very like a human
Speaker 1: living person. Yeah yeah, wow, Like she was scary at first,
Speaker 1: but then once you know, once I was nice to her,
Speaker 1: she stopped looking scary. Then she was just like a
Speaker 1: friendly ghost. So maybe that's the secret if you've got
Speaker 1: a scary ghost, like be nice to them, right. Well.
Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes they maybe because of when they
Speaker 1: were alive or something, they just think that ghosts are
Speaker 1: supposed to be scary, and it's like, honey, you can
Speaker 1: write your own story.
Speaker 3: You can.
Speaker 1: You can change the face of ghosts forever. You don't
Speaker 1: have to be scary exactly. New pr Yeah, thank you
Speaker 1: so much to Christina, to Katie, to Julia and Jay,
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