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Speaker 1: What's that at the foot of my bed. It's spooky

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Speaker 1: and jooky. I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, help, I'm ghosted.

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Speaker 1: Hi ros Dressens, Hey boo, it's me Roz. Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: I'm always looking for listener episode submissions by emailing me

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Speaker 1: at ghosted by rosigmail dot com and Wow, today's episode,

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Speaker 1: we got stories and stories and stories. There's some epic tales,

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Speaker 1: there's some shorter stories, there's some you're just gonna have

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Speaker 1: to hear for yourself. And as always on Patreon dot

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Speaker 1: com slush ros dress Felasi, you can hear more. I

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Speaker 1: actually have three different clips from today's episode. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: hear about some Catholic paranormal stuff. You're gonna hear about

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Speaker 1: a ghost tour where somebody touched a ghost. You're also

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Speaker 1: going to hear about a spooky room in a childhood home.

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Speaker 1: So go check that out on my second tier. Patren

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Speaker 1: and I also have a video this week of me

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Speaker 1: at the Cavern Club at Casina del Campo, my favorite place.

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Speaker 1: I have been rehearsing a show there and I had

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Speaker 1: some fellow performers tell me about their ghost stories. And

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Speaker 1: show you around the place a bit. So go check

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Speaker 1: that out. And yeah, let's hear some stories. Here is

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Speaker 1: this month's listener phone call Extravaganza on with the show.

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Speaker 1: Hello Christina in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Hi Roz, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good? Are you welcome back a returning listener? I

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Speaker 1: love it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me once again after a hiatus.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Well, have you had ghost stories since the last

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Speaker 1: other ghost stories from your life?

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Speaker 2: So? I have had some since as well, as these

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Perfect. And I love the instinct to be like, okay,

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Speaker 1: some shit has gone down. I gotta call ros.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. And there were multiple times over especially

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Speaker 2: but better late than never.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So what happens?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So this first story actually happened over quarantine. I

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Speaker 2: was staying with a former boyfriend. We're still friends though,

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Speaker 2: I was staying with him, and like you said, I'm

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Speaker 2: it for people who don't know what a clavinova is,

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Speaker 2: And I don't I'm sure people can relate whenever, Sometimes

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Speaker 1: My god, I would have moved out or figured something.

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Speaker 2: That's right, exactly deal with it. But I usually say

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Speaker 1: But you know, with something that's really interesting is I

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Speaker 1: And so it's really like do they know that they're bad?

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Speaker 2: Like that's a very good question. I I would The

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Speaker 2: way that I categorize it is, you know, do you

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Speaker 2: So you know, everything that has as a good intention,

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Speaker 2: Sending him all the good vibe.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's so.

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Speaker 2: No, it's fine, it's great. He'll never die ever, ever,

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Speaker 2: almost like he's like, hey, like, don't feel bad. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So, like you know, even though, and I actually

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Speaker 2: that Cooper was her best friend. I mean they were very,

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00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: very very close. She was the alpha, and like I

433
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: even have a picture of when I gave it to her,

434
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 2: like he's sniffing it and like he approved your portrait.

435
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 2: And Baxter Will will sometimes bark at the portrait and

436
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 2: or like look at it, like kind of cower away

437
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 2: from it, almost like Cooper's like, hey, you know, you

438
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 2: might be there now, but I'm still top dog. But

439
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: so it's nice that, you know, he always kind of

440
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 2: shows up when what it seems to be is he

441
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: shows up when needed, Like you know, he shows up

442
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: when my sister might be feeling anxious or sad or

443
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: whatever needs that little reminder like hey, everything's okay. So

444
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: you know, that's at least there's that, you know, at least,

445
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: you know, even though I don't necessarily think that he

446
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: like is trapped at my mom's house or anything like that.

447
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 2: I really think that he's kind of like a messenger

448
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: just shows up to be like, hey, I'm okay, and

449
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 2: you guys are okay, and so it's it's really nice.

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Speaker 1: Hello Katie, how are you? Hi?

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Speaker 6: Raz I am great? How are you?

452
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: I am so good? Where are you?

453
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 6: I am in Northern Virginia.

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Speaker 1: Northern Virginia. I was reading your email and you sound

455
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: like you are a ghost tour ghost walk queen. Yeah,

456
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Speaker 1: so is that like a thing you're into when you

457
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: go different places?

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Speaker 6: It is?

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00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've done them in several different cities that I've

460
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 7: been to.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've talked about this before, and I enjoy

462
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: them a lot, but I feel like usually when I go,

463
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: it's just like there's a building right there, somebody died

464
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: in it, here's the story, all right, let's keep moving,

465
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: and then like nothing ever happens, Like nothing, Like I

466
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: haven't been on one where you like go into like

467
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: a haunted play. Well, actually I have, but nothing's really

468
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: happened to me. But what has happened to you?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: So I feel like nothing ever happens to anyone, So I, yes,

471
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 7: I'm just like the weird exception.

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Speaker 1: I need to go with you next time.

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Speaker 7: So on my first ever ghost tour, I was like

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Speaker 7: eleven years old. I am originally from Maryland, but I

475
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Speaker 7: live in Virginia now and I grew up about like

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Speaker 7: an hour or so south of Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, which is

477
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Speaker 7: where the Battle of Gettysburg happened. So obviously there's like

478
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Speaker 7: tons of ghosts there, or allegedly tons of ghosts there.

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Speaker 7: And I have always been interested in ghosts for like

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Speaker 7: my whole life, even as a kid, which is probably weird.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, I was a weird kid. And so

482
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 6: my mom had wanted to take me.

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Speaker 7: To go on a ghost walk in Gettysburg and we

484
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 7: finally got to go one summer, and uh so nothing

485
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 7: was happening. I didn't really I was kind of hoping

486
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 7: there'd be like ghosts, you know, walking around everywhere that

487
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 7: I would just be seeing or feeling or whatever. And then, uh,

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Speaker 7: at one point we went to the it was kind

489
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Speaker 7: of like an alley like behind mind behind like a

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Speaker 7: row of houses. It was kind of like in the downtown,

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Speaker 7: like Gettysburg town, and there was so there was a

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Speaker 7: row of houses on one side of the road and

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Speaker 7: on the other side across there was like garages. And

494
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Speaker 7: it was just like a just an alley, kind of

495
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Speaker 7: a wider alley, not a very skinny one. And it

496
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Speaker 7: was paved and in the middle of it there was

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Speaker 7: a section of it that was concrete. And let me

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Speaker 7: preface this by saying that I cannot like verify that

499
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 7: this is one historically accurate, but this.

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Speaker 6: Is what I was told, was that during the Battle

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Speaker 6: of Gettysburg.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to ghosted. I never know. I'm always like, I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty sure this is what I've heard. Do take it

504
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: from me? People a Google now, it's fine. Anyone can

505
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: has a computer in their hand at all times.

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00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 6: Yes, So I try to look it up, but I

507
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 6: can't verify it. One.

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00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 7: So in this area that was concrete in this alley

509
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 7: there it was actually water running underneath it, so that's

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Speaker 7: why it was paved differently. And during the Battle of Gettysburg,

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Speaker 7: there were soldiers and I don't remember which side they

512
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 7: were on, but they were stationed like down kind of

513
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,479
Speaker 7: in the ravine.

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Speaker 6: Like where the water was, and they weren't allowed to move.

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Speaker 7: And this I do know for sure, on the third

516
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 7: day of the Battle of Gettysburg it rained and stormed,

517
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:21,959
Speaker 7: so that did actually happen. So allegedly the water started

518
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 7: to flood and the soldiers that were stationed there weren't

519
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 7: allowed to move, and apparently some of them kind of

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00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 7: got swept away and drowned.

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Speaker 6: So we were told, you know, when.

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Speaker 7: You walk across the concrete, oh, you're gonna feel like

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00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 7: soldiers reaching up to try to grab onto something to

524
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Speaker 7: stop themselves from drowning. So it's like, oh, that's the

525
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 7: most stereotypical ghost story ever. Even as an eleven year old.

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Speaker 6: I could tell that. So I started walking. I know,

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Speaker 6: it's really creepy.

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Speaker 7: So I started walking across the concrete and I stepped

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Speaker 7: like a step or two, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 7: I felt something on my ankle.

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Speaker 6: And it felt kind of like almost like if you

532
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 6: know how when you.

533
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Speaker 7: Walk through like a cobweb or like a spider web

534
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 7: and you can kind of feel it, but there's nothing

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Speaker 7: like solid there. Yeah, like I describe it as like

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Speaker 7: it didn't feel like a little handle my ankle. It

537
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 7: felt like if there was like a ice cold cobweb

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00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 7: on my right ankle and The weird part was that

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00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 7: the whole way across the concrete, it wasn't super far.

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00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 7: It was like less than ten feet. I felt it,

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Speaker 7: and the second I got back to the asphalt, it stopped.

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Speaker 3: Oh god.

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00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: So in that moment, are you like, this is what

544
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Speaker 1: I came for. I set out to achieve something and

545
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: I got to encounter a ghost or were you like,

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Speaker 1: I'm out of here, this is stupid, this is it was?

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Speaker 7: I was a little afraid. I definitely wasn't like this

548
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 7: is stupid. I was kind of thinking, this is not

549
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Speaker 7: what I expected to happen. I was expecting, you know,

550
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 7: a go to walk in front of me, which is

551
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 7: obviously very unrealistic. But I so I was like, well,

552
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 7: I guess I've had my ghost experience. So I told

553
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 7: my mom and she was like, oh, okay, Well, like,

554
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 7: I don't know what to tell you.

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00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: Like, but I just remember one of these books that

556
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: I read when I was a kid that was like,

557
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: you know, ghost stories, but like four children, and it

558
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: was like this, these people went to Gettysburg, and you

559
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: know they do like those re enactment shows or whatever

560
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: where the people are all costumed and then pretend they're battling,

561
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: and they're like, wow, we you know, they see this

562
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: this battle and people are just like, you know, they're

563
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: shooting each other, and it's like it looks so crazy

564
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: and realistic. And then they tell like the the people

565
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: that work there and like, I don't know, the gift

566
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: shop or whatever. They're like, hey, the show today was

567
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: so realistic. And then they're like, we didn't have a

568
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: sh show today.

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Speaker 6: Yes, that is so creamy. Unfortunately that did not happen.

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Speaker 1: I also want to hear the story about your grad

571
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: school apartment.

572
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, this was the weirdest thing that's ever

573
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 7: happened to me. And I don't know if it's a ghost,

574
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 7: but I cannot explain it in any way.

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Speaker 1: First of all, grad school, Oh la la, what were you.

576
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 6: Studying forensic psychology?

577
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

578
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: Wow.

579
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: I feel like there's this interview could go in a

580
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: whole different direction. I have a lot of questions, but

581
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: we'll keep it to this for now. Okay, what happened

582
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: in this apartment?

583
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 7: Okay, So it's going to sound absolutely ridiculous, but basically,

584
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Speaker 7: I wear glasses or contacts. If I don't have like

585
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 7: my glasses on, I can't see more than like eight

586
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 7: inches in front of my face without it being blurry.

587
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 7: So I can't like function without some kind of visual

588
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 7: aid based.

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Speaker 1: So my w y which I always think about, like

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Speaker 1: what if I saw a ghost in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the night, like I.

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Speaker 6: Write, it would be blurry. You wouldn't you wouldn't be

593
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Speaker 6: a I reached.

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Speaker 1: From my glasses, it would be gone. Probably.

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Speaker 6: I think about that sometimes too, because.

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Speaker 1: I'm always like, these people are like, oh, I woke

597
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: up and I saw this man, and then they, you know,

598
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: they start to describe, Oh, he had five wrinkles on

599
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: his cheek. I'm like, how can you see that far?

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Speaker 6: Yes, it's so true. I'm so envious of people who

601
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 6: can like see. So my roommate was gone for.

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Speaker 7: The weekend and I was a clutch and I dropped

603
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Speaker 7: an airing down the sink and I didn't know how

604
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 7: to get it out, so I had to wait till

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Speaker 7: the next day for maintenance to come. So I texted

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Speaker 7: my roommate asked if I could use her bathroom for

607
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 7: the night to like brush my teeth and everything. And

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00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 7: I didn't actually end up using her bathroom until the

609
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 7: next morning to like put my contacts in so anyway,

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Speaker 7: so I distinctly remember, like watching TV reading, I had

611
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Speaker 7: my glasses like on my and then on the top

612
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 7: of my head while I was reading, put them away

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00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 7: on you know, in my glasses case on my bedside table.

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00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 7: The next morning, I woke up and I could not

615
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 7: find them anywhere. I was the only person in our apartment.

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00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 7: I tore my room apart, couldn't find them, went and

617
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 7: ended up going into my roommate's bathroom and putting my

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00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 7: contacts in because I figured, well, maybe, you know, maybe

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Speaker 7: I'll be able to see to find my glasses. Could

620
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 7: I find them anywhere even with my contacts in? I

621
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 7: brought my stuff into her bathroom. I put and I

622
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Speaker 7: say this because I put it like on her counter

623
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Speaker 7: and I had to move this little like box out

624
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Speaker 7: of the way. And then when I was done, I

625
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 7: moved the box back, picked my stuff back up, brought

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Speaker 7: it back into my own bathroom. She got home that afternoon,

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00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 7: I still hadn't found my glasses, so I went into

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Speaker 7: her room to tell her, hey, like, you know, I

629
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Speaker 7: can't find my glasses. If you see them somewhere like

630
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Speaker 7: on a table or something, let me know. And then

631
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Speaker 7: I and when I was walking back out of her room.

632
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 7: I walked past her bathroom and glasses were sitting on

633
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 7: top of the little box next to her sink, and

634
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 7: I had to put them there, and she had gone

635
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 7: in there when she got home and she said they

636
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Speaker 7: weren't there.

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Speaker 1: Did you have other like anything else ever happened in there?

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00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 6: Not really. I think one time.

639
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 7: Our like Alexa device like said something randomly in.

640
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Speaker 6: The middle of the night. But I don't know. The

641
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 6: energy was like a little bit weird there.

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00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like my roommate and I were both

643
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 7: kind of going through a lot, so I feel like

644
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 7: there was a lot of like negative energy kind of

645
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 7: just like from us. So I don't know if that

646
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 7: could have caused it maybe, But nothing.

647
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 6: Like that ever happened again.

648
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 7: But it was just so significant that like, yeah, I

649
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 7: don't know, it was very weird, but it was also

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Speaker 7: it was it was just outside of Alexandria, Virginia, which

651
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 7: is another old, very old historical town.

652
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 6: It wasn't in the downtown, but it was right outside

653
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 6: of it.

654
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 7: So you know, that area has been around for a

655
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 7: very long time, so it's totally possible that it could

656
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 7: have been haunted and just not.

657
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 6: We just didn't know.

658
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean maybe it was like a windy day

659
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: and one of those ghosts like blew in for a minute. Yes,

660
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: But I mean like that's the thing with like talking

661
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: about this stuff all the time. For me on this

662
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: podcast is like, sure, I have this idea, as most

663
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: of us do, where like these weird things happen in

664
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: your home if somebody died there or whatever. But it's

665
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: like there's so many things it could be a ghost.

666
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 1: That's like, oh, I don't really want attention, so I'm

667
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: just gonna like chill for a while. And then one

668
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: day they're like, you know what, I think I could

669
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: help Katie out and then just like okay, I'll do

670
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: my ghost thing for like five seconds and I'm going

671
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: back to my little ghost closet or whatever. Or it's

672
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: like it could be some kind of I don't know,

673
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: Guardian angel or you know, it's like it could be

674
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: so many things. Yes, I say it's paranormal.

675
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 6: I think so too. I've always said it is.

676
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, speaking of you want to hear a ghost

677
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: voice with me? Oh my gosh, yes, Okay, let's listen

678
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: to an EVP EVP or evase. So this one is

679
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: from Soulmate's Paranormal on YouTube, and I couldn't really tell where.

680
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: It just says that it's at a private residence in

681
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: a children's bedroom, I know, So tell me what this says. Okay,

682
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: of course, it's like real quick, I'll do it again.

683
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 6: Is it like I see that.

684
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: I see that it's definitely like a whispery. It sounds

685
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: aggressive to me. Wait, let's play it again. Ooh, I

686
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 1: can hear that. I see that.

687
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 6: It's definitely like three words. I don't know.

688
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know that.

689
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 6: I see that as right, but I know it's three words.

690
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: Well, i'll give you some options. One of these is

691
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: what they believe it says. Is it a nestleie chocolate?

692
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: Is it B nasty child? Is it C that's too much?

693
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: Or D Nancy Grace.

694
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say nasty child.

695
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: Okay, that is what they think. They think it's this

696
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: nasty child, which I can hear.

697
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, and they're in a kid's room.

698
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: Right, so that makes sense. That's a clue. Let me

699
00:41:51,560 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: play it again. I mean I also hear Nestley chocolate, Yes.

700
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 6: Yes, definitely. Maybe they wanted some.

701
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: Cookies maybe, or maybe it was Nancy Grays. I've been

702
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: ghosted too, from my hometown of Grand Rapids, Michigan. Julia, Hello,

703
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 1: how are.

704
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 6: You, Hiroz? I'm so good. How are you?

705
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: I'm so good? And I love that you're from my hometown.

706
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 6: I love that you're from where I'm from.

707
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: Have you been to haunted places in Grand Rabbits, Michigan?

708
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 7: I have not, unfortunately, But so you spoke about the

709
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 7: Ada witch and I work in Aida, and so every

710
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 7: time I'm driving home, I'm like keeping an eye out

711
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 7: on the road.

712
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 6: I'm like, ooh, maybe I'll see your totally.

713
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you should go to that cemetery. It

714
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 1: is so it's called I think it's called the Findley

715
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: Cemetery f I N L. E. Y.

716
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 3: Finley.

717
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: I think that's what it's called. Don't quote me. But

718
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: it's like on this dark, uh kind of like country road.

719
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: Maybe this is just in my mind, but I want

720
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: to say it's like a dirt road and it's like

721
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: one lane, and especially at night time, it's pitch black

722
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: because there's like trees everywhere. And then there's this little

723
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: cemetery with like a creaky old gate and apparently that's

724
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: where she haunts.

725
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, well, Witch all workers who also love

726
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 7: your podcast, So maybe we should make like an afterwork

727
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 7: trip out of it one day.

728
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you guys can be correspondents reporting live

729
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: from the Findley Cemetery in Ada, Michigan. Yes, can you

730
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: tell me a ghost story?

731
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: Yes?

732
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 7: So, the one that I had emailed you about, like

733
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 7: the main one, happened around Christmas of twenty eighteen. I

734
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 7: was visiting my mom's side of the family for Christmas

735
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 7: in Corpus Christie, Texas, and we were staying in my

736
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 7: aunt's house. And the first question I ask, any time

737
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 7: I go anywhere new, is this place haunted?

738
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 6: And I don't know. I just do it for fun.

739
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 7: I've like always been really into the pair of normal,

740
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 7: but also kind of to like prepare myself just in

741
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 7: case the place is, but really just for the reassurance

742
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 7: that it's not but my mom or I'm sorry, not

743
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 7: my mom. My aunt said that it was that there's

744
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 7: like a mail energy that lingers around, and I just

745
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 7: tried to put that out of my mind. Nothing really

746
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 7: happened the first couple of days that I was there,

747
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 7: but one night I'm in my room that I was

748
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 7: staying in there, and I was sleeping. I had kind

749
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 7: of I had just gone to bed, so it was

750
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 7: kind of that like half asleep half awake space where

751
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 7: all of the spooky things tend to happen.

752
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, and I.

753
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 7: Heard and I can still hear it as clear as

754
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 7: day in my left ear. It was like it was

755
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 7: like a scream of a like a man voice saying

756
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 7: something along the lines of like I'm gonna show you

757
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 7: that this house is haunted, and then started like screaming

758
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,959
Speaker 7: in my ear, just like nah. And then my bed

759
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 7: started shaking, and so I screamed bloody murder and like

760
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 7: really in real life. And I woke up from it,

761
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 7: and it woke up my aunt and uncle. It woke

762
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 7: up my mom and dad and everybody just like ran

763
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 7: to my room and we're like, oh my god, what's wrong.

764
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 6: Are you okay? And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

765
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 6: I'm fine.

766
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 2: I'm fine.

767
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 7: I just had a bad dream. And then you know,

768
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 7: we all went back to bed. And then the next

769
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 7: day I was out shopping with my mom and she

770
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 7: she's always been really into the paranormal too, and she's

771
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 7: had a lot of her own experiences, and so she

772
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 7: was kind of she was asking me about it. She

773
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 7: was like, Julia, like, what happened? And it took me

774
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 7: a minute to tell her I didn't. I don't know,

775
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 7: like to not talk about it made it feel like

776
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 7: maybe it just wasn't real. So eventually she got it

777
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 7: out of me, though, And so later that night I

778
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 7: went out and while I was gone, apparently my mom

779
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 7: told me this later, But my mom went into the

780
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 7: room that I was staying in and she was kind

781
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:35,479
Speaker 7: of like.

782
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 6: Talking to whatever energy was there.

783
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:38,959
Speaker 7: She was like, you need to leave, like you don't

784
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 7: belong here, blah blah blah blah blah. So and then

785
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 7: later that night, my mom goes to bed and she

786
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 7: has about a sleep paralysis, and in the corner of

787
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 7: the room she sees like this male figure and she,

788
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 7: you know, she can't move, she can't scream, she can't talk,

789
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 7: she can't do anything. And then she told me about

790
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 7: it the next day and we were just like, what

791
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 7: what happened?

792
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,959
Speaker 1: And so, wait, but what happened to you that night?

793
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: Like was it peaceful in your room?

794
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 2: Yeah?

795
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 7: I just really didn't sleep, Okay, I sleep the rest

796
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 7: of the time that I was there, So nothing else

797
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 7: happened to me while I was there in regards to

798
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 7: like experiencing that presence or hearing it again. So, but

799
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 7: my mom she had the sleep paralysis. And then the

800
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 7: next day, my another aunt and uncle came over to

801
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 7: visit us, and we are like a we're we're a

802
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 7: Mexican family, but my family down there is also like

803
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 7: super Catholic, and I have an aunt and uncle who

804
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 7: are really involved in their church. They're really involved in

805
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 7: like prayer groups, and they have supported I don't know

806
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 7: if I want to like call it exorcisms because that

807
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 7: feels really extreme, but essentially they support that. And so

808
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 7: we were telling my mom, or we were telling my

809
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 7: aunt and uncle what happened to me and my mom,

810
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 7: and they were like, oh, yeah, you know, your mom

811
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 7: pissed it off because I guess like only the owner

812
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 7: of a house can kind of banish any sort of energy.

813
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 7: I don't know if all of that is true or not,

814
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 7: but essentially my mom pissed it off by trying to

815
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 7: make it go away. So that's why she had the

816
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 7: sleep paralysis.

817
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: But wait, wait, the people that live there, so like,

818
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: what kind of stuff would be happening.

819
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, so my aunt and uncle said that they will

820
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 7: be like sitting in the living room watching TV. They'll

821
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 7: see a shadow go by there, They'll hear footsteps, but

822
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 7: it doesn't bother them. It's just something that they are

823
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 7: aware is there, and they kind of just coexist together.

824
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: Okay, so this ghost is not used to being yelled

825
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 1: right exactly. This ghost is like you just being like

826
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: hanging out with your aunt and uncle and then all

827
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: of a sudden, these people come in and they're.

828
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 7: Like, god it yeah yeah, and I mean her house,

829
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 7: like you could tell there was like a heavy vibe

830
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 7: to it.

831
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 6: Anyway.

832
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 7: It's also probably because she just like never opens the curtains,

833
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 7: but like it's super dark in there and it just

834
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 7: feels heavy and stuffy.

835
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: And so you know, oh, so the ghost is in

836
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: paradise totally.

837
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 6: Totally. It's like this whole house is basically a basement

838
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 6: for me.

839
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 7: Okay, great, And even my dad, who's like the most

840
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 7: skeptical person ever, like he would never admit that anything

841
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 7: is going on, even he you know, while we were

842
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 7: talking to my other aunt and uncle, the ones who

843
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 7: came to visit us, that like, oh yeah, you know,

844
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 7: I was watching TV last night and you know I

845
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 7: heard it go by, and so everyone's admitting that, like

846
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 7: there's this energy in the home and that it's kind

847
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 7: of minds its own business. But for whatever reason, it

848
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 7: was like attacking me and my mom. So my aunt

849
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 7: and uncle, the ones that are super involved in their church,

850
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 7: they started praying over me. They like put their hands

851
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 7: on my forehead and had me close my eyes and

852
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 7: were doing whatever prayer blessing that they do essentially with

853
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 7: like their clients and their church. And I started to

854
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 7: just feel so nauseous, like I felt like I was

855
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 7: going to vomit. I just I felt ill. And then

856
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 7: that you know, that persisted for a little while. They

857
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 7: prayed over me this last and maybe fifteen to twenty minutes,

858
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 7: and eventually, like the ill feeling went away, and I

859
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 7: started to feel this like warmth run from the tops

860
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 7: of my shoulders like down my arms.

861
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 6: And they kept praying.

862
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 7: They kept praying, they kept praying, and once they were done,

863
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 7: they to me how I was feeling, and then I

864
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 7: told them that I experienced those like physical symptoms while

865
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,439
Speaker 7: they were doing what they were doing, and they were

866
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 7: essentially like, yeah, you know, like the nausea that you

867
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 7: were feeling, that ill feeling was like whatever was attaching

868
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 7: itself to you like leaving, and then the warmth that

869
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 7: you were experiencing was like Jesus like coming over you.

870
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 7: And I'm not I'm not religious, like I'm super spiritual,

871
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 7: but I still believe that whatever higher power it was

872
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 7: like was like it was just an experience that you

873
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 7: can't shake. I don't know, I don't I don't know

874
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 7: how it was to explain it, but it I.

875
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: Mean, I'm also not religious and I'm and the thing

876
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: that I'm always afraid of is like if that was

877
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 1: to happen to me and then people prayed and it

878
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: made the thing go away, I would feel like, Okay,

879
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: now I need to like become a non and devot

880
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: my life to Catholics, right.

881
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 7: I know, I became like super Catholic for like two

882
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 7: weeks after that, I was like, nah, I don't like this,

883
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 7: let me go back to my crystals and Carol cards please.

884
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: But I mean again, it's like that it could be

885
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 1: that that's it's just that conviction, Like clearly, your your

886
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 1: aunt and uncle very much believe that, and the power

887
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: of that belief is what can chew something away. And

888
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: I think that it's possible that the same can be

889
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: said about you know, burning Paalo santo or sage or

890
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 1: crystals or whatever it is that you believe. It seems

891
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: to me, I don't know nothing, abound nothing, but it

892
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: seems to me like that could be what it is.

893
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: After talking to so many professionals about this kind of.

894
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 7: Thing, I completely agree. It's like you're setting that intention,

895
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 7: you're setting that protection, you're setting those boundaries, those limits,

896
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 7: and it just really whatever religion or ideology you're coming from,

897
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 7: or even if it's just spirituality, like it's all the same,

898
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 7: you just call it different things.

899
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 6: It seems right.

900
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 7: But so after that, I was still feeling pretty anxious.

901
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 7: And a while after, maybe an hour later, they checked

902
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 7: on me again and they were like, how are you doing,

903
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 7: how are you feeling? And I told them that I

904
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 7: was just still feeling like kind of heavy. Like I

905
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 7: felt better, but I just felt like a heaviness in

906
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 7: my chest, like just a lot of anxiety. So then

907
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 7: my aunt she takes off her crucifix that she was wearing.

908
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 7: They just always wear necklaces with crosses on them, and

909
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 7: she put it on me and I just instantly felt lighter.

910
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 7: It was the weirdest thing. And I told her that.

911
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 7: She was like, oh yeah, it's blessed with an exorcism prayer.

912
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my god, oh wow. So they're

913
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: like really into the exorcism thing.

914
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 6: Yeah.

915
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just carry around exorcism right exactly.

916
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 6: I don't know.

917
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 7: Maybe they're afraid that they're going to pick up whatever

918
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,720
Speaker 7: energy just like going to the grocery store.

919
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:12,240
Speaker 1: Now, do you think that that was like a coincidence

920
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: that they happened to be there at this time, or

921
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: do you do did they already know, like I have

922
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: a feeling that this ghost is gonna it is gonna

923
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: possess Julia, or like you know what I mean, Like,

924
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 1: did they know that they were entering a haunted house?

925
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: I can't remember what you said about that.

926
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I don't think they walked in expecting to

927
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 7: hear this story from me and my mom.

928
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 6: But they've you know, they've visited.

929
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 7: That house before, and they have confirmed also that like,

930
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 7: oh yeah, there's definitely some some presence here. But when

931
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,919
Speaker 7: they were when they came over that day to visit,

932
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 7: they were just visiting, because we go down to visit

933
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 7: them like only every few years.

934
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: They sound like the Mexican Ed and Lorraine Warren and

935
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 1: I want that movie. They are Oh my god, they

936
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: are Oh my god.

937
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 6: I never thought about that before.

938
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 7: That was that experience, okay, And it still is so terrifying.

939
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 7: And my mom and I talk about it all the

940
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 7: time still and we're just like, I can't believe we

941
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 7: shared that together, but also really glad that we shared

942
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,919
Speaker 7: that experience together. I think just like it was super

943
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 7: validating for the both of us that what what just

944
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 7: happened was real.

945
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: Did they like get the ghost out of there? Or

946
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: do you think it's still there?

947
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 7: I think it's still there. They didn't do anything to

948
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 7: cleanse the home. They were just trying to remove the

949
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 7: attachment from whatever was attaching itself to me, or whatever

950
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 7: level of attachment it was.

951
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 6: They were just trying to like cut.

952
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: That got it, Okay, that ghost.

953
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 6: Is probably still lingering.

954
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: There's a ghost in my house. Hello Jay in West Hollywood.

955
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 3: Oh my god, thank you?

956
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 1: How are you?

957
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 3: I'm terrific.

958
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: I am so fascinated by the email you sent me.

959
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 1: It sounds like there's a lot of things going on here,

960
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: but there's a witch in Mexico that I feel like

961
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 1: we got to get to what is this story?

962
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 3: Jay? So in two thousand and nine, some friends and

963
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 3: I decided to sell all of our worldly belongings and

964
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 3: buy an RV and we wing to drive from Oakland, California,

965
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 3: to Costa Rica to start basically a commune in the jungle. Whoa.

966
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 3: And we we're not good planners and we're just like

967
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 3: this ratead group of hippies. So of course we don't

968
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 3: have any contingency plan or anything. And we run out

969
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 3: of money in Mexico and there's nothing we can do

970
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 3: because we can't drive the RB, we can't feed ourselves,

971
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 3: there's nothing we can do. But we eventually like we

972
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 3: can get little pockets of money here and there from

973
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 3: people who take pity on us. And so we make

974
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 3: our way very slowly through Mexico and we decide to

975
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 3: camp next to this river that we heard about that

976
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 3: has this waterfall that people go to, and we wash

977
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 3: our laundry in the river. I'm hanging it up to

978
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 3: dry and this man out of nowhere is standing next

979
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 3: to me and he says, have you seen my keys?

980
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 3: And I was like, no, I don't think I have.

981
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 3: And then I realized, oh, he's speaking English to me,

982
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 3: and I turn around and look, and there he's just

983
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 3: like the most normal looking person you can think of.

984
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 3: And I said, I haven't seen your keys. I'm sorry.

985
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 3: It's what a terrible place to lose your keys, frankly,

986
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 3: and we start talking and he says, I'm camped down

987
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 3: the way along the river, so please come join me tonight.

988
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 3: We'll have hot dogs. And I thought that sounds great.

989
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 3: Like I said, we were all starving. So we go

990
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 3: to his campsite late at night and we have a

991
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 3: campfire and we rose hot dogs and we're telling ghost

992
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 3: stories to each other, and he's telling us Mexican ghost stories.

993
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 3: We're telling them all of our sad stories that honestly

994
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 3: do not compare to his stories.

995
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: Mexican ghost stories are some of the scariest stories.

996
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 3: They are so scary, and ours are just they sucked.

997
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 3: So anyway, I said, hey, I'm making pancakes for breakfast

998
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 3: in the morning. Why don't you come to our campsite

999
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 3: and we'll cook you breakfast. And he says sure. And

1000
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 3: the next I get up and I make breakfast and

1001
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 3: there's no sign of him. So I fix the plate

1002
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 3: and I carry it down to his campsite. And there

1003
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 3: like was no campsite, there was no sign of anyone

1004
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 3: ever being there, there was no fire pit, there was nothing,

1005
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 3: like there were no tracks from his car there. He

1006
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 3: had a car. He had this tiny little pup tent

1007
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 3: like snoopy sleeps in, like just like the fabric over

1008
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 3: the stick, and there was nothing there. And so we're

1009
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 3: joking and we're like, haha, he must have been a ghost.

1010
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 3: And we would refer to him like, remember, like having

1011
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 3: hot dogs with the ghost. Wasn't that funny, you know,

1012
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 3: because we were in Mexico for months at a time,

1013
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 3: so it just was one of our funny memories. Well,

1014
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 3: we're driving down an hour in Wahaka, like the beach

1015
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 3: in Whaka, and at this point we all hate each

1016
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 3: other because it's going very badly. And so I see

1017
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 3: a sign that says to the beach, and I say,

1018
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 3: I need to go swimming. I am I'm really hot

1019
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 3: and there's mosquitos all over me and I can't stand

1020
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 3: this and I hate all of you. So I'm going swimming.

1021
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 3: And we get to this place and it's the most

1022
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 3: beautiful place I've ever seen in my life. There's a

1023
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 3: lagoon that's beautifully clear, and there's like stingrays swimming in

1024
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 3: the water and pelicans. It's just Eden. It was so beautiful.

1025
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 3: And on our like third day there there's this woman

1026
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 3: walking along the beach in this long, flowy white skirt

1027
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 3: and she has this pink shirt on and she comes

1028
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 3: up to me while I'm sleeping on the beach and

1029
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 3: she says, have you seen my spaceship? And I open

1030
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 3: my eyes and I'm like what, and she repeated herself.

1031
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 3: And I'm a smartest, so I was like, yeah, I

1032
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:07,439
Speaker 3: saw it over there, Keep walking, lady. And she came

1033
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 3: back the next day, have you seen my spaceship? And

1034
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, Like why do you keep asking

1035
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 3: me this? I told you. I was just very short

1036
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 3: with her.

1037
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: Now, keys, I can understand losing right spaceship.

1038
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 3: A whole spaceship. So I didn't know what was going on.

1039
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 3: I just thought, you know, she was just living on

1040
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 3: the beach like ourselves, and so, you know, more power

1041
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 3: to her. But I wasn't getting involved. But she comes

1042
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 3: by enough times. I'm like, okay, tell me about this spaceship.

1043
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 3: What am I looking for? And she tells me this story.

1044
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 3: Her name is Felicity and she was a nurse in

1045
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 3: the French part of Canada, so she had a really

1046
01:01:55,560 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 3: pronounced accent. And this woman went into a coma and

1047
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 3: she experienced what's called a walk in. She said, when

1048
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 3: an alien spirit now lives in this body. They got

1049
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 3: rid of Felicity and a new spirit lives in her body.

1050
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,479
Speaker 1: But when you say alien, we're not talking like outer

1051
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: space alien.

1052
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, outer space alien, well, interdimensional. She said, she's from

1053
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 3: the fifth dimension, where she has a family. Her people

1054
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 3: sent her here because Earth is like on the cusp

1055
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 3: of understanding new things and enlightening humankind. Right, this is

1056
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 3: what she's saying. So they sent her here because there's

1057
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 3: basically stargates and she had to open the stargates like

1058
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 3: this portal so they can get through. And they were

1059
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 3: all in Mexico. There were three of them in their triangle,

1060
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 3: and the very last one, she said, was in this

1061
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 3: lagoon where we were all camping. And yeah, so she

1062
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 3: wakes up from this coma as a new person. She

1063
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 3: gets on a plane using I'm assuming the dead Felicity's money.

1064
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if this new person had any kind

1065
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 3: of money, but she said she realized on the plane

1066
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 3: to Hawaii because that's where she knew she had to go.

1067
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 3: That she didn't speak English, and Hawaii's and America, and

1068
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 3: she's like, what am I going to do? But she

1069
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 3: gets off the plane and there's someone at the airport

1070
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 3: at six something foot tall Native American man who comes

1071
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 3: up to her and he says, Felicity, I've been waiting

1072
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 3: for you. And then he goes and teaches her how

1073
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 3: to be a healer of Earth and also teaches her English.

1074
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 3: And so after there, like tutelage was over, she goes

1075
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 3: to Mexico to start this journey. Right, so here we are,

1076
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 3: she's got two these gates open. The last one is

1077
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 3: out in the ocean where we're camping, and she's like,

1078
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 3: I'm a tired old lady. I can't even afford my

1079
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 3: own food. How am I supposed to go out there

1080
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 3: and do this?

1081
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 6: Like?

1082
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 3: I'm done? And the reason she was looking for her

1083
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 3: spaceship was because she was expecting to die any day now,

1084
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 3: and the spaceship was going to take her back to

1085
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 3: her people. And then the body of Felicity was just

1086
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 3: going to be left in Mexico. I guess so right,

1087
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 3: it's a very weird story. But then I'm thinking, like, okay,

1088
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 3: I'm pretty weird too, and I'm having this really wild

1089
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 3: trip of a lifetime, permanent vacation kind of situation, and

1090
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 3: I thought, maybe I should help this old woman achieve

1091
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 3: what she wants to do, right, So I think I'll

1092
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 3: help her with her spell. And she's teaching me this

1093
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 3: chant and ancient Hebrew and these signs that I have

1094
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 3: to like write on myself. And then I think, my

1095
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 3: I like extra special piece of the spell is I'm

1096
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 3: going to take this big ten pound hunk of rose

1097
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 3: quirts that I brought with me and I'm gonna like

1098
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,959
Speaker 3: sacrifice it to the ocean. So I go out there

1099
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 3: and the waves become enormous, and no matter what I

1100
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 3: can do, I cannot swim past the breakers, and this

1101
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 3: huge wave slams me into the seabed and I lose

1102
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 3: my rock okay, because I didn't have pocket, So I

1103
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 3: lose my rose quartz immediately, and I try. I swim

1104
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 3: out there for like forty five minutes. I could not

1105
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 3: get out there, and eventually I had to swim back

1106
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 3: because I was worried that I was going to die.

1107
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 3: And so basically I screwed the whole thing up. But

1108
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 3: when I get out of the water, Felicity's like, did

1109
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 3: you do it? Did it work? And I was like, yes,

1110
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 3: it worked perfectly, it just like you wanted it too.

1111
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 3: And so Felicity is like, great, now my mission is over.

1112
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 3: And she was just ready for a good time. Her

1113
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 3: work was over. Now she can relax. But essentially she

1114
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:12,439
Speaker 3: was homeless and had no money. And we did get

1115
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 3: some money at some point so we could continue our trip,

1116
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 3: but we decided to stay there for a while, and

1117
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 3: we got Felicity a room in a hostel and we

1118
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 3: paid for two of her meals every day, and we were,

1119
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 3: you know, eating lunch and dinner with her every day too,

1120
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 3: and so we were friends, and she did reikie on me.

1121
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 3: She got a little sick at one point, so I

1122
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 3: gave her a pendant of mine, hoping that she could

1123
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 3: like draw energy from it to keep herself strong. But

1124
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 3: then the months go by and nothing changes, and Felicity

1125
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 3: is still in good health, and you know, she hasn't died,

1126
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 3: and so she's going around town like word had got

1127
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 3: out that she was a bit of a psychic or something,

1128
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 3: and so everyone started to consult her. When their daughter

1129
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 3: wanted to get married, they would come to Felicity for

1130
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 3: a blessing. When they wanted to sell land, they would

1131
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 3: come to Felicity for a blessing. And she wasn't giving blessings.

1132
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 3: She was saying everyone was cursed, Like if you sell

1133
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 3: this land, this tree on this land told me it's

1134
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 3: an ancient sacred sight, and if you sell this land,

1135
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 3: there's going to be a curse on you and you'll die.

1136
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 3: And this is what she's telling everyone. So eventually I'm like,

1137
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 3: I won't allow this. You need to stop bobbing all

1138
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 3: these people and frightening them. And she's like, I'm a sidekick,

1139
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 3: I know, And I'm like, I'm a sidekick too, so

1140
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 3: I know, like I won't allow this, And she ends

1141
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 3: up getting into a big fight with me, and so

1142
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 3: we decided to stop paying for her hotel room and

1143
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 3: to stop paying for her meals, and we basically like

1144
01:07:56,600 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 3: ran her out of town. So now we're having in Mexico,

1145
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 3: having a great time, and Felicity's not bothering us anymore.

1146
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 3: One day, I wake up. This is just a little tangent,

1147
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 3: but you'll see why. I wake up and there's a

1148
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 3: little tent underneath my window, and I look out and

1149
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,759
Speaker 3: I was like, that's weird, what a dumb place to camp.

1150
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 3: And then I go down to the restaurant and I

1151
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 3: see someone that I think I recognize, but it's been

1152
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 3: a while, and it hit me it's the ghost from

1153
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 3: the river that we were camping on. This was one

1154
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 3: thousand miles away, it was in a different direction than

1155
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 3: he was traveling, and yet here he is in this

1156
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 3: other town, in a different state, camping right underneath my window.

1157
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 3: What So I'm like, oh my gosh, why I remember you?

1158
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 3: What happened? And he goes, well, that night after you

1159
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 3: guys left, I heard laughter on the road and I

1160
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 3: thought it was you guys like coming to play prank

1161
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 3: on me. So I grabbed my flashlight and I went

1162
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 3: out to meet you between our two campsites, where there's

1163
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 3: just like sugar cane fields and a river. And he

1164
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 3: got halfway down the road and realized we weren't anywhere around,

1165
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 3: and he heard laughter coming from the sugar cane fields,

1166
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 3: and so he shined his light into the sugar cane

1167
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 3: and he said he saw red eyes staring back at him.

1168
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 3: So he goes back to his campsite, and removes all

1169
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 3: the sign that he was there, and he drives away.

1170
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 3: And there was a gatehouse at the top of the

1171
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 3: road where a man lived and he would let you

1172
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 3: have access to this land. But he had to honk

1173
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 3: his horn to get the gate man out because it

1174
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 3: was like two in the morning. So the gateman comes

1175
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 3: out and he says to him, why didn't you tell me?

1176
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 3: And the gateman said, because you wouldn't have stayed here

1177
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 3: if I did. Those are the ghosts of children, and

1178
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,600
Speaker 3: they protect my sugar cane fields.

1179
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 1: So that's probably so much more effective than like a

1180
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,560
Speaker 1: guard dog like the ard ghost children.

1181
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 3: Would they oh, my god, like the hound of the basketball.

1182
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:14,719
Speaker 1: So he wasn't a ghost.

1183
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 3: No, he wasn't a ghost, but he had a ghost

1184
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 3: story to tell me after we met up with each

1185
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 3: other again, which I thought was so interesting.

1186
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's so weird because I really thought he

1187
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 1: was a ghost at the beginning. So so he why

1188
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:31,640
Speaker 1: was he? Why was he where you were? Was he

1189
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 1: looking for you guys?

1190
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 3: Or no, he was just traveling around the first time

1191
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 3: that we met him, he said that he was a

1192
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 3: couple of months out of starting a really good job

1193
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 3: and he just wanted to see all of Mexico, so

1194
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 3: he was driving around, but he was from the weird.

1195
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 3: He was driving north, like to Laredo, but we were

1196
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 3: driving south, coming from California, and he ended up back

1197
01:10:56,520 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 3: south and was camping right there. So he and I

1198
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 3: spent a couple of days together. We went hiking. It

1199
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 3: was fun.

1200
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: But you guys didn't encounter the sugarcane ghosts.

1201
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 3: No, we didn't, Thank goodness.

1202
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 1: That is that is so weird in all of Mexico.

1203
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 1: To run back into this person.

1204
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:19,799
Speaker 3: Isn't that strange? It's always been. And I got his email,

1205
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 3: but of course I lost the little slip of paper

1206
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 3: it was written on, and I just always wish I

1207
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:28,679
Speaker 3: could contact him somehow again. It would be so great

1208
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 3: to catch up with him, But it wouldn't that be

1209
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 3: the maybe.

1210
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: It'll be Maybe you'll see him in West Hollywood.

1211
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 3: That would be nice. I think. I can't be sure, though,

1212
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 3: But yeah.

1213
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 1: Did you ever see Felicity again? Or is that the

1214
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: end to her?

1215
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 3: Yes?

1216
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:49,600
Speaker 7: No?

1217
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 3: So, Okay, it's December now, it's right before Christmas, and

1218
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 3: I'm going back to California because I've had enough. It's

1219
01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 3: been a long trip and this person that I went

1220
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 3: on my trip with who we both hate each other now.

1221
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 3: But on that last day, she runs up and she's like,

1222
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 3: do you want me to tell you or do you

1223
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 3: want to see for yourself? And I was like, wow,

1224
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 3: see for myself, obviously, and she takes me to the

1225
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 3: window and there's Felicity walking on the beach like the day.

1226
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 3: I had already called the taxi to take me to

1227
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 3: the airport, I had my bags packed, and there's Felicity

1228
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 3: in the same spot I saw her on our first

1229
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 3: like days in this village, and so I go downstairs.

1230
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 3: I was like, wow, Felicity, weird seeing you, and I

1231
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 3: said how are you? And she goes much better when

1232
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 3: you are not screwing up my life, and I was like, well,

1233
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 3: then I have good news for you. I'm leaving for

1234
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 3: the airport and I guess there's no one to keep

1235
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 3: you out of town anymore, so welcome back. And she

1236
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 3: just like turned and walked away. So that was kind

1237
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 3: of end. And then a couple maybe months go by,

1238
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 3: maybe a year, and I'm just noticing this string of

1239
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 3: bad luck and how I always feel terrible, and I

1240
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 3: realized that I was wearing the pendant that I had

1241
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 3: let her borrow in Mexico to help her feel better,

1242
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 3: and I just feel like she really connected with that

1243
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 3: pendant and maybe she was kind of surreptitiously sending me

1244
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 3: a curse or something. And I thought, okay, well, I'll

1245
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 3: just do a little ritual to get rid of like

1246
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 3: whatever hold she has on this. And it was this

1247
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 3: little thing made out of obsidian, and I took the

1248
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 3: tip of a knife to it, like just barely touched it,

1249
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 3: and the thing exploded. What yes, it did. I barely

1250
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 3: touched the tip of my knife to it. And I

1251
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 3: was going to like mutter some words over and be

1252
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 3: like the spell is broken. But I just barely touched

1253
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,719
Speaker 3: the tip of it, and the whole thing like across

1254
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 3: the living room. It was just like pocus Pocus. I

1255
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:09,680
Speaker 3: was half scared, but also like very impressed with my

1256
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 3: own ability at curse breaking. So you know, it was

1257
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 3: just I was feeling a lot of feelings and that

1258
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 3: was the last connection I had with Felicity. I don't

1259
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 3: know if she's living or dead. I assume she's dead

1260
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 3: because she was old and very homeless, so I don't know.

1261
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 3: But that's those are my stories from Mexico. Was your

1262
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 3: life better after that? Yes? Wow.

1263
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 1: So, having spent time with this Felicity person, do you

1264
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 1: feel that there is truth to the alien storyline.

1265
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 3: I've had a lot of time to think about this,

1266
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 3: and I feel like I do, or at the very least.

1267
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 3: She believed it so so much that I knew she

1268
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 3: was telling me the truth. Whether it was true or not,

1269
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:09,759
Speaker 3: she believed. It's so hard. But then I started asking

1270
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:13,560
Speaker 3: friends about it. I have this friend who's a fantastic astrologer,

1271
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 3: and she knows all of the weird theories that are

1272
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 3: out there, and she was telling me, Yeah, there are

1273
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 3: people who believe this. They're called Pleadians. They the Pleadians

1274
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 3: come from another part of the universe and they come

1275
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 3: here and their whole thing is about you know, energy

1276
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 3: transfer and time travel and all of this stuff. And

1277
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 3: she's like, it sounds like this lady believes that she

1278
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 3: is one. Yeah, it was. It's very interesting. I've started

1279
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 3: reading about that as well, just because I have to

1280
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 3: understand more. I I mean, even though it happened to me,

1281
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 3: I still don't understand it. So I do try and

1282
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 3: learn more. But then I hear these really bizarre things

1283
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 3: and I think that can't possibly be true, and then

1284
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 3: I stopped reading the book. But is it any crazier

1285
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 3: than the story I've just told you? Like, I don't know.

1286
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 1: I mean that's what every day I'm like, who am

1287
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 1: I to say? What is real and what isn't?

1288
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 3: You know? Wait?

1289
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 1: You hear and you experience things all the time that

1290
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 1: are like, there's no if I told somebody this, there's

1291
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 1: no way they would believe me.

1292
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 3: Well, exactly. And that's like one of my other ghost stories.

1293
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,759
Speaker 3: I never told anyone about this ghost until someone else

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01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 3: was like, who is that little girl? And why is

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01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 3: she all wet? And I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: you see it too?

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Speaker 1: Okay, wait, who can we hear that one?

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Speaker 3: This is after I get back from Mexico. But I'm

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01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 3: living in Oakland with a new boyfriend and we get

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01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 3: into this apartment and there's a really long haunt wait

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Speaker 3: to get down to our door. And he's very superstitious,

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01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 3: so he was always like, oh, there's a ghost down there,

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01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 3: and I just thought he was being silly. But I

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01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 3: always saw this same image of the little girl in

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01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 3: a white dress, long dark hair. I mean, she looked

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01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 3: just like the girl from the ring, if I'm honest,

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01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,600
Speaker 3: because she was all wet, and so I think to myself, like,

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Speaker 3: that's just my subconscious right, it's just the little girl

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Speaker 3: from the ring. It's nobody. But then a friend drove

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Speaker 3: me home one day. He comes upstairs for a glass

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Speaker 3: of wine and he goes, who's that little girl and

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Speaker 3: why is she all wet? And I was so stunned

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Speaker 3: that anyone else could see her. I just said, like,

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Speaker 3: you could see her too, and he said yeah. So

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Speaker 3: she was always like a scary kind of spirit and

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01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 3: would bother people. And I got tired of it, because

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01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 3: you know, people always felt uneasy, and so I went

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01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 3: to her and I was like, look, little girl, I

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01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 3: don't know who you are, but you can't just stand

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Speaker 3: in my hobby and make everyone feel uncomfortable. Like you

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01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 3: got to get it together and like smile, chase fall

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Speaker 3: I don't care, but you can't just stand here doing this.

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Speaker 3: I was a teacher at the time, and so I

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Speaker 3: was like giving my good teacher discipline and so.

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Speaker 1: A hobby like just staring at people in all all

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Speaker 1: over the floor, that's.

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Speaker 3: Not a hobby. Like do something else. Yeah, so she

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Speaker 3: did the next time I saw her, she had kind

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Speaker 3: of a smile, and I thought it was cute, and

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01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 3: so then I felt like, oh, now I have this

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01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 3: friend who lives in my hallway. She's a ghost. Well

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Speaker 3: years go by and then it's time for me to move,

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Speaker 3: and I, since I was friends with the ghost, I

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01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 3: was like, why don't you come with me to my

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01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 3: new place. I'm going to miss you. And when I

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Speaker 3: got to my new house, I sort of like invoked

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01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 3: her spirit. I was like, please come, I hope you

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01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 3: come and enjoy it. And then I did see her again,

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01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 3: and she's walking around very slowly, barefoot, looking in all

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01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 3: the rooms like, oh, isn't that interesting? And she goes

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01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 3: into the kitchen and she starts spinning around and she

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01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 3: gets this like big, wide eyed smile on her face.

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Speaker 3: And I have this image in my head, like a

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01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:00,640
Speaker 3: vision of her standing next to a woman at a

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01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 3: stove cooking, like holding on to the lower half of

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01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 3: her dress, and she like hugged her mom and she

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01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 3: like spun around and disappeared, and I've never seen her again.

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Speaker 1: Whoa And so she just looked very like a human

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01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 1: living person. Yeah yeah, wow, Like she was scary at first,

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01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 1: but then once you know, once I was nice to her,

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01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 1: she stopped looking scary. Then she was just like a

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01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 1: friendly ghost. So maybe that's the secret if you've got

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01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 1: a scary ghost, like be nice to them, right. Well.

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Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes they maybe because of when they

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01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 1: were alive or something, they just think that ghosts are

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01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 1: supposed to be scary, and it's like, honey, you can

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01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: write your own story.

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01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 3: You can.

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Speaker 1: You can change the face of ghosts forever. You don't

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01:19:51,160 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 1: have to be scary exactly. New pr Yeah, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much to Christina, to Katie, to Julia and Jay,

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01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 1: and as always, if you would like to be on

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Speaker 1: a listener episode, all you have to do is email

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Speaker 1: me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com with

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01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,560
Speaker 1: the subject line listener episode and just give me a

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01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,679
Speaker 1: couple of little bullet points of some of the stories

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01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 1: you might want to talk about on the show. And

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Speaker 1: if you want to hear more from today's episode, go

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Speaker 1: to patreon dot com Sash Rozdressfales for a couple of

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Speaker 1: bonus clips and to see a fun video of me

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Speaker 1: and some of my friends talking about spooky ghosts here

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01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,559
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1375
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:51,400
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Speaker 1: Roz Dress Fales. Tell your friends about the show, help

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Speaker 1: me to spread the word. I am on cameo at

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Speaker 1: Roz dress Flaz, Instagram, at Roz Hernandez. You know where

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Speaker 1: to find me. I love you all, both living and dead.

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01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 1: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't

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01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:21,679
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