1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 2: Single best idea and the heart and soul of what 3 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: we do is the guests and within the crushing schedule 4 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 2: of the guests, the technology getting in in studio, in 5 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 2: hotel rooms around the world, whatever they gotta want to 6 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: come on. And we are so humble that our guests 7 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: around different news events really want to come on. To 8 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: get Claudia Samon on Jobsday is a big deal. So 9 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 2: what do we do with technology? Back to back? Dan 10 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: Ives and Gina Munster with us. Don't forget some man 11 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 2: deep sing at Bloomberg Intelligence among other worthies, But today 12 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: was wonderful. Dan Eyes of web Bush Securities, Retail, Los 13 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: Mag seven institutional less. 14 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: So Retells stuck with it. Institutional they've hit the exit 15 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 3: and I think they got and they've got scared out. 16 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 3: A lot of the mags haveing a lot attack and 17 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 3: now guess what's gonna happen over the coming weeks. They're 18 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: gonna have to double down. And I think that's why 19 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: I think the run here that we can see intact 20 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 3: over the next three four weeks, especially as we go 21 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: through I think could be massive because it's under own 22 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 3: institutionally because of well is Paul talked about stock being 23 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 3: up nine. In terms of Microsoft, there was a view 24 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: that they were gonna miss azure. They absolutely I mean, 25 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 3: this is an Aaron Judge like performance. 26 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: Dan iives, I didn't know Aaron Judge was. I had 27 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: to ask Paul who that was. Danives there with webbush 28 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: and a better than good performance by Microsoft. And I 29 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: should mention Facebook as well. On we go to Apple 30 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: and Amazon, Gene Monster join from deep water. And you know, 31 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: every once in a while, particularly with the generous length 32 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: of time we get to speak to our guests, I 33 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: can to ask something more philosophical and to me, the 34 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: immense miss stree here, the immense mystery here of Apple 35 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: computer is people really don't know what made Tim Cook 36 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: Gene Monster on the expert on supply change Timothy Cook. 37 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: There is one hundred percent confidence in Tim Cook's ability 38 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: to make the best out of an extremely difficult situation. 39 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 1: But even his magical ability to increase gross margins by 40 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: using better manufacturing over the last decade, even that power 41 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: is small relative to the forces of what these tariffs 42 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: could mean. And I'll just kind of put some briefly 43 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: into context is. My sense is that these tariffs when 44 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: it comes to Apple, there's still mixed messages coming out 45 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: of the White House in terms of how Apple's going 46 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: to be impacted by that. My sense is that they're 47 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: probably going to shake out somewhere between a ten and 48 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: twenty percent tariff, And if that in fact ends up 49 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: being the case, even with Cook's masterful to the supply chain, 50 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 1: they're probably going to see some diminishing of gross margins 51 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: and it probably goes from call it forty percent forty 52 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: one percent. They're probably going to lose a couple percent 53 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: on that, call it thirty nine, and so that is 54 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: it's a step back. I just want to put some 55 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: context when we hear about all this, the forces that 56 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: Tim Cook, the levers that he can pull, there are 57 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: some limitations to it. And that's why I think that 58 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: I just like applaud dan Ives and him standing up 59 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: and saying like, we got to get this thing figured out, 60 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: and what figured it out means is just some clarity. 61 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: And ultimately I think that that clarity is going to 62 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: be twenty percent, and it's going to be a little 63 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: bit of an impact. Again, doesn't change the long term 64 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: trajectory of the business, but it's something that investors are focused. 65 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: Gene Monster there of deep water asset management. On the 66 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: Jobs Day tomorrow, really looking forward to the coverage a 67 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: wonderful set of worthies to help us with a mystery 68 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: of this trade war across the nation. On your commute, 69 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: major shout out to Google Alphabet and their Android Auto. 70 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: I am brief that they're coming out with all sorts 71 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: of new spectacular technology to drive that modern digital experience forward. 72 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: On our podcast, We're out on YouTube podcast single best 73 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: Idea