WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Rock Their World 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:06.040 Hi, Get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and this is the 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:10.719 Bengals Booth podcast, the Rock Their World Edition. We discuss 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:14.319 one of the more tumultuous weeks in Bengals history and 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:17.920 get to set for Sunday's game in Baltimore. Coming up, 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:21.520 an in depth conversation with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham, 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:25.560 including his thoughts on the firing of Terrell Austin, Marvin 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:29.960 Lewis taking over the defense, and the return of Hugh Jackson. 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:33.199 Speaking of Hugh, we'll hear what he had to say 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:37.960 to reporters about coming back to Cincinnati. I often include 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:40.840 one of my interviews with a player on this podcast, 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:44.640 but in this episode you'll hear a conversation between lap 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:48.519 and right tackle Bobby Hart. Bobby's always a thoughtful interview, 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:51.879 but he really opens up when talking shop with a 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:55.600 former offensive lineman. And in this week's Know the Faux segment, 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:58.600 we'll talk to a former Baltimore linebacker who can not 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:01.640 only discuss what's going on with the current Ravens, but 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:06.080 can also describe from experience exactly what it's like to 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:10.440 play for defensive coordinator Marvin Lewis. All of that is 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:13.640 straight ahead. But first, here's a quick reminder that you 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.480 can have the latest edition of this podcast delivered right 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:21.440 to your phone, tablet, or computer by subscribing on iTunes, Stitcher, 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:26.000 or pod Bean. It's the greatest invention since the rear 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:30.039 window to froster. If you're listening in the Cincinnati area, 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:33.280 you know we had freezing rain on Wednesday night into 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:36.560 Thursday morning, and anybody that had to park their car 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.920 outside was undoubtedly happy to press that button on the 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:44.160 dashboard and have coils melt the ice on their rear window. 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:49.040 But answer me this, why hasn't somebody invented something similar 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:51.920 for the windshield. It would have to be see through 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:55.000 so that your vision wouldn't be impaired. But that doesn't 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:58.080 seem that far fetched to me. If we can put 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:01.000 a man on the moon, we can early invent a 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:06.120 better windshield defroster. Come on, smart people, prove me right. 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:11.000 All right, let's get to football. As the saying goes, 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:15.560 desperate times call for desperate measures. After giving up fifty 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:18.480 one points to the Saints last Sunday and one thirty 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.679 over their last three games, an average of forty three 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:24.959 points a game, Marvin Lewis pulled the plug on defensive 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:28.440 coordinator Tarall Austen and announced that he would handle those 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:32.880 duties himself. There's only one other current head coach who 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:36.120 serves as his own defensive coordinator in the NFL, and 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:39.880 that's the Vikings Mike Zimmer. Marvin explained the move on 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:43.440 Monday by saying, quote, I just felt like we had 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:46.799 to rock their world, shake things up a bit, end 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:50.160 of quote. I discussed the move and a crazy week 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:53.720 with my broadcast partner Dan Hood with Dave Lapham. The 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:57.200 Bengals have a new defensive coordinator, Marvin Lewis. He's taking 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:00.840 over after Tarall Austin was fired on Monday. It's interesting, 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.000 lap you made a comment several weeks ago about the 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:05.720 Bengals defense saying you didn't think there was any cohesion, 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:08.959 and now they've made this move. And I didn't really 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:10.880 get the sense when the players were talking about it 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:15.440 that anybody was too upset that Tara Loston was let go. Yeah, 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.720 it was almost like they're expecting it, you know, particularly 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:21.320 after the performance against the Saints. And I'm not going 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:23.680 to say, you know, it's a relief to them. I 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:25.400 think that might be a little bit strong but I 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:29.160 think they knew that something had to happen. And you know, 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:32.880 obviously the performance that that unfolded against the New Orleans 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.960 Saints is not NFL caliber. I mean, when you let 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:40.560 an offense score nine straight possessions on you, and seven 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:44.320 of those nine possessions were eight plays or more, three 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:46.960 first downs or more, I mean, you are You're not 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:50.000 even putting up any resistance. And I'm not even counting 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:53.119 you know, that last possession because they took a knee 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:57.080 and kneel down. But it's just amazing to allow a 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.720 football team to do anything they want. They threw for 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:03.200 two ramped at two hundred. I mean, they had they 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:06.120 had over twenty first downs on like forty snaps in 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:09.520 the first half. It was it was ludicrous. So something 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:13.160 had to happen. I mean, there's there's too much talent again. 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:15.120 People that I talked to around the league, they're all like, 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.719 what's going on? Our coaches did love to have some 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.440 of the talent on that defensive football team. We can't 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:23.120 figure out what has happened and what is it? What 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:24.920 is it? And I'm like, I wish I could tell you. 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:26.200 If I could tell you, to make a lot of 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.479 money because it solved the problem. But it it was 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:31.520 it was the oddest thing, and I don't know, it 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:33.880 was like, you know, the hand never fit the glove 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:37.279 or vice versa. Just it just never happened. And Marvin 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:39.440 Lewis just got tired of seeing what he was seeing 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:44.440 on the sideline and the defense they weren't even run 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:47.960 into the ball anymore because they were confused and apprehensive. 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:51.720 And when that happens, you know, now you're not gonna 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:53.880 If you're ring the wrong place, you're dead from the 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.680 snap before the snap. But if you're in the right 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:59.000 place and you're still not sure, if you're not confident, 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:00.960 not you're you're not going to tackle people, you're not 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:03.160 going to make plays. And that's where they were. That 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:07.880 had to change. Hugh Jackson is back. What's his role 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:10.120 going to be and how do you think it'll go 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:12.640 over with the players and coaches. I think his role 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:15.120 is going to be, you know, like an administrative assistant 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:17.960 to the head coach on game day, a game management stuff, 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:22.640 clock management, deciding on replays when the offense is out 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:26.000 there to challenge a replay or whatever the case. Maybe 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:29.200 if Marvin Is is tied up with the defensive football team, 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:31.320 you know, in a huddle on a a grease pad 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.840 with those guys. I think those kind of things and 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:37.000 I think I think you will have some input with 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:39.600 Marvin on the defense. I mean, Marvin, trust Hugh and 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:43.000 trust his football acumen. And the thing about Hugh Jackson 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:45.920 every position that he was with you, including the defensive 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.640 side of the football, as assistant in the secondary, assistant 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.600 special teams, everybody get better. Receivers had the best year 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.120 they've ever had. Quarterback Andy Dalton had the best year 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:57.479 ever had when he was coordinator. Running backs improved. I 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.320 mean he's a good football coach. I mean he's certainly 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.920 proven that here. And the other thing with Hugh dan 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:06.160 is he's coached on the coaching staff three out of 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:08.760 the four teams in the division. Cleveland head coach, with 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:12.039 the with the Baltimore Ravencies quarterback coach Joe Flacco. He 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:14.520 went and scouted him at Delaware, and of course he 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:17.080 with the Bengals multiple times. And Marvin Lewis made a 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.520 good point not only his knowledge of the division, because 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:23.120 he's you know, he tied tied Pittsburgh and beat Baltimore 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:27.600 already involved those game plans, but all the teams they 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.120 play in the AFC West, he's already game planned and 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:34.680 against teams like the Oakland Raiders, you know, and teams 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.600 like the Denver Broncos d LA Chargers. Those three they 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.320 played the AFC West three games in a row after 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:42.760 they after they play Baltimore in Cleveland, they go to 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:44.839 the AFC West and they come back and finish at 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.600 Cleveland and at Pittsburgh. So he was going to have 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:51.000 a major, major impact in a voice in the game 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.120 plans for all of those games because he's already done 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:56.880 it up in Cleveland. Lap. As of December ninth last year, 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:58.960 the Bengals had the longest streak of any team in 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.200 the NFL of holding opponents under thirty points. They did 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:05.680 it for twenty two consecutive games. The Bears ended the 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:09.240 streak by scoring thirty three on December tenth. Since then, 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:14.400 in thirteen games, teams are averaging thirty point seven points 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:17.640 against the Bengals. Most of the good players are still here. 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:21.160 Injuries have been a factor, But shouldn't this defense be 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:24.960 at least pretty good? No question, Dan, I mean, I 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:28.000 think it's it's stunning to me when I look at 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:30.880 when I look at what it looked like in training camp, 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:34.080 when they were running around like crazy in completions. You know, 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.760 they were told those are like fumbles, go pick them 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:38.800 up and score. You know, we want to have a 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.280 takeaway mentality. We want to run to the football. We 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:44.840 want everybody moving football. I thought, wow, man, they're they're 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:47.480 buying what coach Austin selling here. You know, they look 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:49.360 pretty good at training camp and look decent, you know, 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:53.480 during the preseason, and then for whatever reason, it just stopped. 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:55.680 I mean, it just kind of fell apart. I think 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.720 there was too much gray area. Guys just weren't sure. 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:02.000 You know, it's like, okay, do I on this? Look 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:03.560 do I do this? Or I do I do that? 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:06.520 And when that happens, all of a sudden, you're not 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:10.560 playing fast anymore. You're apprehensive. You know, you're passive and 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:15.840 you're not aggressive. And you know, an athlete that's lost 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:17.760 his confidence is a guy that's not going to win. 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.080 You know, snaps, There's no question about it. And if 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.160 you're not confident in exactly what you're supposed to do, 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.000 how you're supposed to do it, when you're supposed to 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:25.880 do it, and all that goes along with it. You're 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:29.360 in trouble. And to me, it looked like everybody was 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.280 starting to get tentative. It was like, ooh, make sure 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:36.840 before I move too late, it's over. And then everybody 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.760 started there was some unrest about it. You know, look, 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:43.600 it looked very much like when kenzimpce. He was coaching 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:48.840 the offense. Too much information, too many what ifs. Just 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.440 line up, just have one thing to look at, trust 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:56.240 your eyes and go. Don't let your eyes get crossed up. 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:58.440 Don't go across side and like, oh what am I 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:00.920 looking at? And you know the other actor is obviously 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:04.680 you look at the offenses they played, Kansas City, New Orleans, 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.640 Tampa Bay can really throw it. They have faced some 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:11.240 prolific offenses with some unbelievable speed, and when they motioned 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:14.080 with all the speed their motion with it's like, oh man, 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.400 the strength of formation was here announced here. What happens 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.240 now when that strength goes away from me? I have 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:20.439 to do And then they're snapping the football, it's like, oh, 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:22.640 you know, you're in trouble. So the speed of it, 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:26.280 and when an offense is playing fast like New Orleans 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:29.080 and Knasity, you have to play fast, and they weren't, 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:31.679 and then they missed a bunch of tackles, you know, 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.560 when they were in position. Because of the athleticism and 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:37.320 the uncertainty I think of the players, it get carries over. 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.400 They weren't tackling, they weren't finishing people, so it just snowballed. 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.640 And I think, you know, Marvin Lewis made a great 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.320 point at training at the press conference that he had 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:48.800 when he said, guys were coming off the field to 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:50.640 the sideline and they were looking at me like I 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.040 need help throw me a lifeline. He said, you know, you, 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:54.760 as a form of player, you're nor what I'm talking about. 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.440 I know exactly what he's talking about. I've been in 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.760 games down thirty nothing from the sideline. Look at the 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:03.240 coach like, man, what's going on? Help help me? You know. 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.760 And he was seeing that universally amongst the players coming 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:08.760 to the sideline, and it didn't look like it was 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.480 going well between the coaches and the players, and you know, 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.439 and it fell on the shoulders of the guy calling 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:19.160 the plays, and everybody suits dirty. But unfortunately coach Austin 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:22.119 was the one that paid because he was the coordinator 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:25.040 the Bengals head to Baltimore this week. The Ravens have 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.240 one of the best defenses in the NFL Number two 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:29.320 and yards allowed, Number two and points allowed. But the 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:32.240 Bengals scored thirty four when they beat Baltimore back in 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:35.319 Week two. What do the Bengals do that allows them 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:39.400 to have more success than most teams against Baltimore? Offensively? Well, 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.840 particularly in that first game, Dan, it was tempo, you know, 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:45.679 they really went up tempo. They had Baltimore's defensive lineman 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:47.480 tapping out, tapping their helmets. They had to come out 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:49.520 of the football game. And when you go up tempo, 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:54.160 it makes the defense go to fewer defensive looks. You know. 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:56.319 It's like they have to go more base, more vanilla. 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:58.600 Maybe a couple of different packages, but not as many 0:10:58.640 --> 0:10:59.839 as they would if they have a lot of time 0:10:59.880 --> 0:11:03.000 to substitute and run personnel on and off the football 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.520 field and get real creative with their blitz packages. They 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:09.640 did try to blitz though, Andy Dalton still and Wink Martindale. 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:11.560 It was Blink Martindale. He got out of that blitz 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:13.839 package and Andy got the ball out of his hand 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:16.439 and just abused the blitz. I mean it was unbelievable. 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:19.120 They took a three score lead very only in that 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:22.680 football game. Aj Green had three touchdown catches with less 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:24.760 than seventeen minutes gone in the game. You know, less 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:26.920 than two minutes into the second quarter, he already had 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:30.680 his third touchdown reception. So they really really came. I 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:33.559 think they surprised them with their temple. That's why this 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:36.640 rematch it's going to be interesting to me. Will Martindale 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:40.200 play coverage or will he play you know, blitz like 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:42.880 that's their personality, that's who they are. They've had success 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:46.440 with the numbers that you talked about with their blitz packages. 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:48.120 So it's like, are we going to be the Baltimore 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.000 Ravens or do we have to be somebody else because 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.640 sinc Natti handed us so well when we were the 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.360 Baltimore raven It's gonna be interesting to see what the 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:57.240 chess match is going to be like and who's gonna 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:01.160 blink first again. The Bengals don't know who the Ravens 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:03.760 starting quarterback is going to be on Sunday. Joe Flacco 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.680 has a sore hip, so it could be him, or 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.120 it could be rookie Lamar Jackson, the former Heisman Trophy 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:12.680 winner from Louisville. Who would the Bengals rather face. I 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:16.000 know who. I'd rather face Joe Flacco with the bum 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:19.200 hip because you know what you're getting with Joe Flacco. 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:22.439 Like you said, they they've performed well against Joe Flacco. 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:26.800 Going into the first matchup, he had thrown more interceptions 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:29.320 against the Bengals than he had against the Browns and 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.960 Steelers combined, and he threw three more in the first 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:35.000 game against the Bengals, So it still might be the case. 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:38.760 And you know, I would rather deal with that. I'm 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:42.640 in that guy's head. Lamar Jackson's so much unknown, you know. 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:46.160 I mean, he can, he can improvise and create. His 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:49.920 best plays might be when he's freelancing after the play 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:52.480 breaks down. And you know, it wasn't necessarily the play 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:54.240 that was called. It was the play he made after 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:57.040 the play that was called. And as a coordinator, so 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:00.280 frustrating because you have everything done, you have all the 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.599 coverage done, and all of a sudden, he breaks a 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.120 tackle against somebody and he's off to the racist for 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:08.200 twenty five yards with his athletic ability. So I think 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:11.600 I'd rather go with the thing that I know more 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:15.880 about than the complete unknown. That's Lamar Jackson twenty five 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:19.200 interceptions in twenty games for Joe Flacco against the Bengals. 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.680 All right, last thing. People often ask me the following question, 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:26.280 what's your favorite place to broadcast a game? I typically 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:32.320 say Baltimore, huge booth, great location, outstanding fans, crab cakes 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:34.319 in the press box, dining room. Most of the time. 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:37.360 It's a great atmosphere to do a game. I'm gonna 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.760 ask you the question, same question, what's your favorite place 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:45.400 ever to call a game? College or pro? Jerry World, Man, 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:50.240 the network booth for Jerry World is unbelievable. It's like 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:54.040 a penthouse condo. There are two bathrooms in the two 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.560 bathrooms in a broadcast booth. I've never seen it before. 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:58.440 I guess it his and hers in case there are 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:01.600 females in there. I mean, and I literally if they 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:05.160 the TV screen was already there, you know, I think. 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.719 And man, I could pitch a cotton live here. And 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:11.800 it was unbelievable, huge, huge, It was two or three 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:14.560 times bigger than anything I've ever been in, and very 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:17.679 well done. And it's it's the location is awesome. I mean, 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.160 it's it's a perfect place to watch a watch a 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.960 football game. I was distracted though, by the by the 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:26.640 big you know, uh screen, the JumboTron up top. I 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.040 mean it was so big your eyes just wandered up there. 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:32.000 I usually like just watching the game more, but it 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:33.920 was like a magnet pullm I just have to look 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:37.320 at the JumboTron. But that that place was amazing, and 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:39.800 the food was good. Boy, I mean that they had 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.200 some barbecue. They had they had some good, good eat 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.440 So I that was a pleasurable experience. I could have 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:49.080 stayed there a week. It was awesome. Two bathrooms we 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.440 don't even have one and are both sometimes at halftime 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:54.840 it's a mad dash to beat the line, no doubt, 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:58.600 no question. I mean I thought, all I need is 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.800 a shower. I mean there are two jobs. Yeah, I'll 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:02.920 maybe I'll maybe just cashing one of the John's for 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:06.200 a shower. I mean, the place was unbelievable, really was 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.720 Thanks Lap. When Hugh Jackson left the Bengals after the 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:13.120 twenty fifteen season to become head coach of the Cleveland Browns, 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:16.240 you would have had a hard time finding a single player, 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:20.040 coach or administrator with the Bengals that didn't think Hugh 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:24.240 would be successful, you can add my name to the list. Well, 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:29.080 we were obviously wrong. Hugh's record in Cleveland was three 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:32.200 thirty six and one. If you throw in his one 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.920 year as the head coach in Oakland, Hugh's career record 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:38.480 as an NFL head coach is eleven forty four and one. 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.880 That's a winning percentage of point two h five. Of 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.520 all the head coaches in NFL history that have lasted 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:48.840 for at least forty games, only one had a lower 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:52.720 winning percentage. That's Bert Bell, who coached the Eagles from 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:56.200 nineteen thirty six to nineteen forty and Old Burt couldn't 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.360 be fired he was the owner. Now. I don't know 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:02.720 of Vince Lombardi or Don Shula would have won with 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:06.040 the talent that Hugh had in Cleveland, but it obviously 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:09.080 didn't work out, and now he's back with the title 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:12.480 of special assistant to the head coach. Hugh met with 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:16.080 Cincinnati reporters on Wednesday, and here are some of his 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.960 most interesting comments, beginning with a description of what he'll 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:24.360 be doing for the Bengals. Whatever this organization needs me 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.840 to do, whatever Marvin thinks I need to do. They 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.720 help him, to help him be the best version of himself, 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:33.120 to help rather ths offensively, defensively, special teams, I'll do 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.840 whatever they need me to do. So offensive included, well, no, 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.080 it's not. I mean, I'm not going it's anything's included. 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:41.920 If Bill wants to bounce an idea for me, no doubt, 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:43.600 you know. But anything I can do to help and 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:48.000 assist this organization, I'll do. No it does it does it? 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.800 Just being here feels comfortable with me. These, Like I said, 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.240 these are people that I know in respect, I think 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:54.640 there are some of the best of what they do. 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.800 I'm talking from top down. Obviously, you know the team. 0:16:58.120 --> 0:16:59.560 They'll be first to tell you they didn't play as 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:01.960 well as they on it to last week. We got, 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.600 you know, some huge games coming up starting this weekend, 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:07.800 and now we're looking to get get the football team 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.040 back to where it needs to be. You're an asservative guy, 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:14.040 and how mind you have to be. I'm not stepping 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.960 on toes here, absolutely. I mean, I'm I'm here to help. 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:19.760 You know, I'm not here to nobody's job. You know, 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.000 I'm here to help and assist. You know, I'm still 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.679 going to be me and I think everybody respects that. 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.840 You know, I'm gonna bring energy and have fun and 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:30.359 and have a good time out of practice and do 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:32.520 everything I can. But at the same time, I'm very 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:35.360 mindful that you know, I'm a I'm a helper here, 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:37.879 That's what I am. Do you need this as opposed 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:40.480 to just like going to a beach. I like beaches, 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:42.120 but I'm not a beach guy at this time of year, 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:44.879 you know, I seriously I do. You know. I'm not 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:48.159 one that um likes to not work. You know, a 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:50.080 lot of people like to do it that way. Not me. 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.640 I like to be on the grass and coaching players 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.560 and being around players, So why not, and especially when 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:57.880 it's an opportunity to come back. It's like being home, 0:17:58.080 --> 0:17:59.800 you know. This is like being home with people that 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:02.800 I no one respect and trust. How do you see Marvin, 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:05.080 you know, kind of embracing this. He hasn't done this 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:10.440 in a long time. Tuesday, I bet those meetings with him, 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:13.199 he's uh, he's getting after it now. He understands what 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:15.560 needs to be done, he has a plan. He's different. 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:18.640 I'm not gonna say he's different. You know, he's got 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:20.320 a little bit more on his plate. Right now. You know, 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:22.800 he's got to go make those game day calls. So, uh, 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:24.520 it's gonna be fun for him. It's gonna be fun 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.119 for me watching him do it, you know, because he 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:27.760 hadn't done it in a while. But at the same time, 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:29.240 he was one of the best that ever did it. 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:30.919 So I mean you kind of intrigued with that. You 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:33.359 haven't really you haven't really been around with you. Yeah, 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:35.680 I'm excited to watch him do it, you know, because 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:38.520 it is different. Let's just be honest. Marvin's competitive, just 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:40.160 like all of us are. So I think he's looking 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:42.280 forward to Sunday. When you were like going Cleveland, people 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:45.920 here instantly began speculating, will Hugh be back to Cincinnati? 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:48.720 Did you wonder if there might be something I want? 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:51.080 I was hoping that there would be something because again, 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:53.080 as I said, I would want to be someplace that 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:55.760 that I you know, respect everybody in the building and 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:58.880 people who know me know me personally, and again it's 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:01.600 it's a tremendous opportunity for me, and I'm just thankful, 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:03.520 you know that they said, Hey, Hugh, come on home. 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:05.479 Here's an opportunity for you to come and help, and 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:08.159 let's go as a coach in what ways can a 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:10.000 new voice or a new voice and a new role 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:13.000 impact a team. Well, it can be impactful, but it 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:15.080 can also hurt too, you know, And I get that. 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:17.520 So I just have to, you know, like I said, 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:19.359 play my role to the best of my ability. I 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:21.960 don't want to do anything to upset anything that they 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:23.720 have going on here. But at the same time, if 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:27.720 I can help, I do want to help do I 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:30.080 wish I never left, Nah, I don't. I think the 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:33.000 experience in Cleveland was good, you know, regardless of what 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:35.119 the record was. I mean, it was an opportunity and 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:37.600 an experience and I can you know, you can't get 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:39.760 those back, and I think I'm a better coach for it, 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.359 you know, having gone through it. But at the same time, 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:44.760 you know, nobody wants to have that kind of record, 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:48.040 you know. But I'm looking forward to being here helping 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:51.360 this organization win and getting this organization back to where 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:53.240 it needs to be. The last time Hugh was part 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:56.000 of the staff in Cincinnati, the Bengals tied the franchise 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:59.359 record with twelve regular season wins and might have finished 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:01.760 with more if Andy Dalton didn't break his thumb. With 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:05.000 four games to go. That season, with Hugh serving as 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:08.399