1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Hi, Get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and this is the 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth podcast, the Rock Their World Edition. We discuss 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: one of the more tumultuous weeks in Bengals history and 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: get to set for Sunday's game in Baltimore. Coming up, 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: an in depth conversation with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham, 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: including his thoughts on the firing of Terrell Austin, Marvin 7 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: Lewis taking over the defense, and the return of Hugh Jackson. 8 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: Speaking of Hugh, we'll hear what he had to say 9 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: to reporters about coming back to Cincinnati. I often include 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: one of my interviews with a player on this podcast, 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: but in this episode you'll hear a conversation between lap 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: and right tackle Bobby Hart. Bobby's always a thoughtful interview, 13 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: but he really opens up when talking shop with a 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: former offensive lineman. And in this week's Know the Faux segment, 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: we'll talk to a former Baltimore linebacker who can not 16 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: only discuss what's going on with the current Ravens, but 17 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: can also describe from experience exactly what it's like to 18 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: play for defensive coordinator Marvin Lewis. All of that is 19 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: straight ahead. But first, here's a quick reminder that you 20 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: can have the latest edition of this podcast delivered right 21 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: to your phone, tablet, or computer by subscribing on iTunes, Stitcher, 22 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: or pod Bean. It's the greatest invention since the rear 23 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: window to froster. If you're listening in the Cincinnati area, 24 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: you know we had freezing rain on Wednesday night into 25 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: Thursday morning, and anybody that had to park their car 26 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: outside was undoubtedly happy to press that button on the 27 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: dashboard and have coils melt the ice on their rear window. 28 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: But answer me this, why hasn't somebody invented something similar 29 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: for the windshield. It would have to be see through 30 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: so that your vision wouldn't be impaired. But that doesn't 31 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: seem that far fetched to me. If we can put 32 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: a man on the moon, we can early invent a 33 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: better windshield defroster. Come on, smart people, prove me right. 34 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to football. As the saying goes, 35 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: desperate times call for desperate measures. After giving up fifty 36 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: one points to the Saints last Sunday and one thirty 37 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 1: over their last three games, an average of forty three 38 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: points a game, Marvin Lewis pulled the plug on defensive 39 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: coordinator Tarall Austen and announced that he would handle those 40 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: duties himself. There's only one other current head coach who 41 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: serves as his own defensive coordinator in the NFL, and 42 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: that's the Vikings Mike Zimmer. Marvin explained the move on 43 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: Monday by saying, quote, I just felt like we had 44 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: to rock their world, shake things up a bit, end 45 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: of quote. I discussed the move and a crazy week 46 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: with my broadcast partner Dan Hood with Dave Lapham. The 47 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: Bengals have a new defensive coordinator, Marvin Lewis. He's taking 48 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: over after Tarall Austin was fired on Monday. It's interesting, 49 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: lap you made a comment several weeks ago about the 50 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: Bengals defense saying you didn't think there was any cohesion, 51 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: and now they've made this move. And I didn't really 52 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: get the sense when the players were talking about it 53 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: that anybody was too upset that Tara Loston was let go. Yeah, 54 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: it was almost like they're expecting it, you know, particularly 55 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: after the performance against the Saints. And I'm not going 56 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: to say, you know, it's a relief to them. I 57 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: think that might be a little bit strong but I 58 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: think they knew that something had to happen. And you know, 59 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: obviously the performance that that unfolded against the New Orleans 60 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: Saints is not NFL caliber. I mean, when you let 61 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: an offense score nine straight possessions on you, and seven 62 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: of those nine possessions were eight plays or more, three 63 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: first downs or more, I mean, you are You're not 64 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: even putting up any resistance. And I'm not even counting 65 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,119 Speaker 1: you know, that last possession because they took a knee 66 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: and kneel down. But it's just amazing to allow a 67 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: football team to do anything they want. They threw for 68 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: two ramped at two hundred. I mean, they had they 69 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: had over twenty first downs on like forty snaps in 70 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: the first half. It was it was ludicrous. So something 71 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: had to happen. I mean, there's there's too much talent again. 72 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: People that I talked to around the league, they're all like, 73 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: what's going on? Our coaches did love to have some 74 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: of the talent on that defensive football team. We can't 75 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: figure out what has happened and what is it? What 76 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: is it? And I'm like, I wish I could tell you. 77 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: If I could tell you, to make a lot of 78 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: money because it solved the problem. But it it was 79 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: it was the oddest thing, and I don't know, it 80 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: was like, you know, the hand never fit the glove 81 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: or vice versa. Just it just never happened. And Marvin 82 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: Lewis just got tired of seeing what he was seeing 83 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: on the sideline and the defense they weren't even run 84 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: into the ball anymore because they were confused and apprehensive. 85 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: And when that happens, you know, now you're not gonna 86 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: If you're ring the wrong place, you're dead from the 87 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: snap before the snap. But if you're in the right 88 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: place and you're still not sure, if you're not confident, 89 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: not you're you're not going to tackle people, you're not 90 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: going to make plays. And that's where they were. That 91 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: had to change. Hugh Jackson is back. What's his role 92 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: going to be and how do you think it'll go 93 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: over with the players and coaches. I think his role 94 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: is going to be, you know, like an administrative assistant 95 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: to the head coach on game day, a game management stuff, 96 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: clock management, deciding on replays when the offense is out 97 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: there to challenge a replay or whatever the case. Maybe 98 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: if Marvin Is is tied up with the defensive football team, 99 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: you know, in a huddle on a a grease pad 100 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: with those guys. I think those kind of things and 101 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: I think I think you will have some input with 102 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: Marvin on the defense. I mean, Marvin, trust Hugh and 103 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: trust his football acumen. And the thing about Hugh Jackson 104 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: every position that he was with you, including the defensive 105 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: side of the football, as assistant in the secondary, assistant 106 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: special teams, everybody get better. Receivers had the best year 107 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: they've ever had. Quarterback Andy Dalton had the best year 108 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: ever had when he was coordinator. Running backs improved. I 109 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: mean he's a good football coach. I mean he's certainly 110 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: proven that here. And the other thing with Hugh dan 111 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: is he's coached on the coaching staff three out of 112 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: the four teams in the division. Cleveland head coach, with 113 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: the with the Baltimore Ravencies quarterback coach Joe Flacco. He 114 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: went and scouted him at Delaware, and of course he 115 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: with the Bengals multiple times. And Marvin Lewis made a 116 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: good point not only his knowledge of the division, because 117 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: he's you know, he tied tied Pittsburgh and beat Baltimore 118 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: already involved those game plans, but all the teams they 119 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: play in the AFC West, he's already game planned and 120 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: against teams like the Oakland Raiders, you know, and teams 121 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: like the Denver Broncos d LA Chargers. Those three they 122 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: played the AFC West three games in a row after 123 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: they after they play Baltimore in Cleveland, they go to 124 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: the AFC West and they come back and finish at 125 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: Cleveland and at Pittsburgh. So he was going to have 126 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: a major, major impact in a voice in the game 127 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: plans for all of those games because he's already done 128 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: it up in Cleveland. Lap. As of December ninth last year, 129 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: the Bengals had the longest streak of any team in 130 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: the NFL of holding opponents under thirty points. They did 131 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: it for twenty two consecutive games. The Bears ended the 132 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: streak by scoring thirty three on December tenth. Since then, 133 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: in thirteen games, teams are averaging thirty point seven points 134 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: against the Bengals. Most of the good players are still here. 135 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: Injuries have been a factor, But shouldn't this defense be 136 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: at least pretty good? No question, Dan, I mean, I 137 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: think it's it's stunning to me when I look at 138 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: when I look at what it looked like in training camp, 139 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: when they were running around like crazy in completions. You know, 140 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: they were told those are like fumbles, go pick them 141 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: up and score. You know, we want to have a 142 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: takeaway mentality. We want to run to the football. We 143 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: want everybody moving football. I thought, wow, man, they're they're 144 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: buying what coach Austin selling here. You know, they look 145 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: pretty good at training camp and look decent, you know, 146 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: during the preseason, and then for whatever reason, it just stopped. 147 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it just kind of fell apart. I think 148 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: there was too much gray area. Guys just weren't sure. 149 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's like, okay, do I on this? Look 150 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: do I do this? Or I do I do that? 151 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: And when that happens, all of a sudden, you're not 152 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: playing fast anymore. You're apprehensive. You know, you're passive and 153 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: you're not aggressive. And you know, an athlete that's lost 154 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: his confidence is a guy that's not going to win. 155 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: You know, snaps, There's no question about it. And if 156 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: you're not confident in exactly what you're supposed to do, 157 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: how you're supposed to do it, when you're supposed to 158 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: do it, and all that goes along with it. You're 159 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: in trouble. And to me, it looked like everybody was 160 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: starting to get tentative. It was like, ooh, make sure 161 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: before I move too late, it's over. And then everybody 162 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: started there was some unrest about it. You know, look, 163 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: it looked very much like when kenzimpce. He was coaching 164 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: the offense. Too much information, too many what ifs. Just 165 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: line up, just have one thing to look at, trust 166 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: your eyes and go. Don't let your eyes get crossed up. 167 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: Don't go across side and like, oh what am I 168 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: looking at? And you know the other actor is obviously 169 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: you look at the offenses they played, Kansas City, New Orleans, 170 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay can really throw it. They have faced some 171 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: prolific offenses with some unbelievable speed, and when they motioned 172 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: with all the speed their motion with it's like, oh man, 173 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: the strength of formation was here announced here. What happens 174 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: now when that strength goes away from me? I have 175 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: to do And then they're snapping the football, it's like, oh, 176 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: you know, you're in trouble. So the speed of it, 177 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: and when an offense is playing fast like New Orleans 178 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: and Knasity, you have to play fast, and they weren't, 179 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: and then they missed a bunch of tackles, you know, 180 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: when they were in position. Because of the athleticism and 181 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: the uncertainty I think of the players, it get carries over. 182 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: They weren't tackling, they weren't finishing people, so it just snowballed. 183 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, Marvin Lewis made a great 184 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: point at training at the press conference that he had 185 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: when he said, guys were coming off the field to 186 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: the sideline and they were looking at me like I 187 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: need help throw me a lifeline. He said, you know, you, 188 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: as a form of player, you're nor what I'm talking about. 189 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: I know exactly what he's talking about. I've been in 190 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: games down thirty nothing from the sideline. Look at the 191 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: coach like, man, what's going on? Help help me? You know. 192 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: And he was seeing that universally amongst the players coming 193 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: to the sideline, and it didn't look like it was 194 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: going well between the coaches and the players, and you know, 195 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: and it fell on the shoulders of the guy calling 196 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: the plays, and everybody suits dirty. But unfortunately coach Austin 197 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,119 Speaker 1: was the one that paid because he was the coordinator 198 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: the Bengals head to Baltimore this week. The Ravens have 199 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: one of the best defenses in the NFL Number two 200 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: and yards allowed, Number two and points allowed. But the 201 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: Bengals scored thirty four when they beat Baltimore back in 202 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: Week two. What do the Bengals do that allows them 203 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: to have more success than most teams against Baltimore? Offensively? Well, 204 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: particularly in that first game, Dan, it was tempo, you know, 205 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: they really went up tempo. They had Baltimore's defensive lineman 206 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: tapping out, tapping their helmets. They had to come out 207 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: of the football game. And when you go up tempo, 208 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: it makes the defense go to fewer defensive looks. You know. 209 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: It's like they have to go more base, more vanilla. 210 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: Maybe a couple of different packages, but not as many 211 00:10:58,640 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: as they would if they have a lot of time 212 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: to substitute and run personnel on and off the football 213 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: field and get real creative with their blitz packages. They 214 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: did try to blitz though, Andy Dalton still and Wink Martindale. 215 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: It was Blink Martindale. He got out of that blitz 216 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: package and Andy got the ball out of his hand 217 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: and just abused the blitz. I mean it was unbelievable. 218 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: They took a three score lead very only in that 219 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: football game. Aj Green had three touchdown catches with less 220 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: than seventeen minutes gone in the game. You know, less 221 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: than two minutes into the second quarter, he already had 222 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: his third touchdown reception. So they really really came. I 223 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: think they surprised them with their temple. That's why this 224 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: rematch it's going to be interesting to me. Will Martindale 225 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: play coverage or will he play you know, blitz like 226 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: that's their personality, that's who they are. They've had success 227 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: with the numbers that you talked about with their blitz packages. 228 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: So it's like, are we going to be the Baltimore 229 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: Ravens or do we have to be somebody else because 230 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: sinc Natti handed us so well when we were the 231 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: Baltimore raven It's gonna be interesting to see what the 232 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: chess match is going to be like and who's gonna 233 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: blink first again. The Bengals don't know who the Ravens 234 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: starting quarterback is going to be on Sunday. Joe Flacco 235 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: has a sore hip, so it could be him, or 236 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: it could be rookie Lamar Jackson, the former Heisman Trophy 237 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: winner from Louisville. Who would the Bengals rather face. I 238 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: know who. I'd rather face Joe Flacco with the bum 239 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: hip because you know what you're getting with Joe Flacco. 240 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: Like you said, they they've performed well against Joe Flacco. 241 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: Going into the first matchup, he had thrown more interceptions 242 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: against the Bengals than he had against the Browns and 243 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: Steelers combined, and he threw three more in the first 244 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: game against the Bengals, So it still might be the case. 245 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: And you know, I would rather deal with that. I'm 246 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: in that guy's head. Lamar Jackson's so much unknown, you know. 247 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he can, he can improvise and create. His 248 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: best plays might be when he's freelancing after the play 249 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: breaks down. And you know, it wasn't necessarily the play 250 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: that was called. It was the play he made after 251 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: the play that was called. And as a coordinator, so 252 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: frustrating because you have everything done, you have all the 253 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,599 Speaker 1: coverage done, and all of a sudden, he breaks a 254 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: tackle against somebody and he's off to the racist for 255 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: twenty five yards with his athletic ability. So I think 256 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: I'd rather go with the thing that I know more 257 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: about than the complete unknown. That's Lamar Jackson twenty five 258 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: interceptions in twenty games for Joe Flacco against the Bengals. 259 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: All right, last thing. People often ask me the following question, 260 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: what's your favorite place to broadcast a game? I typically 261 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: say Baltimore, huge booth, great location, outstanding fans, crab cakes 262 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: in the press box, dining room. Most of the time. 263 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: It's a great atmosphere to do a game. I'm gonna 264 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: ask you the question, same question, what's your favorite place 265 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: ever to call a game? College or pro? Jerry World, Man, 266 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: the network booth for Jerry World is unbelievable. It's like 267 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: a penthouse condo. There are two bathrooms in the two 268 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: bathrooms in a broadcast booth. I've never seen it before. 269 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: I guess it his and hers in case there are 270 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: females in there. I mean, and I literally if they 271 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: the TV screen was already there, you know, I think. 272 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 1: And man, I could pitch a cotton live here. And 273 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: it was unbelievable, huge, huge, It was two or three 274 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: times bigger than anything I've ever been in, and very 275 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: well done. And it's it's the location is awesome. I mean, 276 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: it's it's a perfect place to watch a watch a 277 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: football game. I was distracted though, by the by the 278 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: big you know, uh screen, the JumboTron up top. I 279 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: mean it was so big your eyes just wandered up there. 280 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: I usually like just watching the game more, but it 281 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: was like a magnet pullm I just have to look 282 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: at the JumboTron. But that that place was amazing, and 283 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: the food was good. Boy, I mean that they had 284 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: some barbecue. They had they had some good, good eat 285 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: So I that was a pleasurable experience. I could have 286 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: stayed there a week. It was awesome. Two bathrooms we 287 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: don't even have one and are both sometimes at halftime 288 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: it's a mad dash to beat the line, no doubt, 289 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: no question. I mean I thought, all I need is 290 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: a shower. I mean there are two jobs. Yeah, I'll 291 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: maybe I'll maybe just cashing one of the John's for 292 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: a shower. I mean, the place was unbelievable, really was 293 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: Thanks Lap. When Hugh Jackson left the Bengals after the 294 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen season to become head coach of the Cleveland Browns, 295 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: you would have had a hard time finding a single player, 296 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: coach or administrator with the Bengals that didn't think Hugh 297 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: would be successful, you can add my name to the list. Well, 298 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: we were obviously wrong. Hugh's record in Cleveland was three 299 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: thirty six and one. If you throw in his one 300 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: year as the head coach in Oakland, Hugh's career record 301 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: as an NFL head coach is eleven forty four and one. 302 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: That's a winning percentage of point two h five. Of 303 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: all the head coaches in NFL history that have lasted 304 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: for at least forty games, only one had a lower 305 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: winning percentage. That's Bert Bell, who coached the Eagles from 306 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: nineteen thirty six to nineteen forty and Old Burt couldn't 307 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: be fired he was the owner. Now. I don't know 308 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: of Vince Lombardi or Don Shula would have won with 309 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: the talent that Hugh had in Cleveland, but it obviously 310 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: didn't work out, and now he's back with the title 311 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: of special assistant to the head coach. Hugh met with 312 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: Cincinnati reporters on Wednesday, and here are some of his 313 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: most interesting comments, beginning with a description of what he'll 314 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: be doing for the Bengals. Whatever this organization needs me 315 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: to do, whatever Marvin thinks I need to do. They 316 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: help him, to help him be the best version of himself, 317 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: to help rather ths offensively, defensively, special teams, I'll do 318 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: whatever they need me to do. So offensive included, well, no, 319 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: it's not. I mean, I'm not going it's anything's included. 320 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: If Bill wants to bounce an idea for me, no doubt, 321 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: you know. But anything I can do to help and 322 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: assist this organization, I'll do. No it does it does it? 323 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: Just being here feels comfortable with me. These, Like I said, 324 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: these are people that I know in respect, I think 325 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: there are some of the best of what they do. 326 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: I'm talking from top down. Obviously, you know the team. 327 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: They'll be first to tell you they didn't play as 328 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: well as they on it to last week. We got, 329 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: you know, some huge games coming up starting this weekend, 330 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: and now we're looking to get get the football team 331 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: back to where it needs to be. You're an asservative guy, 332 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: and how mind you have to be. I'm not stepping 333 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: on toes here, absolutely. I mean, I'm I'm here to help. 334 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not here to nobody's job. You know, 335 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: I'm here to help and assist. You know, I'm still 336 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: going to be me and I think everybody respects that. 337 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna bring energy and have fun and 338 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: and have a good time out of practice and do 339 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: everything I can. But at the same time, I'm very 340 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: mindful that you know, I'm a I'm a helper here, 341 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: That's what I am. Do you need this as opposed 342 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: to just like going to a beach. I like beaches, 343 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: but I'm not a beach guy at this time of year, 344 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: you know, I seriously I do. You know. I'm not 345 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: one that um likes to not work. You know, a 346 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: lot of people like to do it that way. Not me. 347 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: I like to be on the grass and coaching players 348 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: and being around players, So why not, and especially when 349 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: it's an opportunity to come back. It's like being home, 350 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: you know. This is like being home with people that 351 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: I no one respect and trust. How do you see Marvin, 352 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: you know, kind of embracing this. He hasn't done this 353 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: in a long time. Tuesday, I bet those meetings with him, 354 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 1: he's uh, he's getting after it now. He understands what 355 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: needs to be done, he has a plan. He's different. 356 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say he's different. You know, he's got 357 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: a little bit more on his plate. Right now. You know, 358 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: he's got to go make those game day calls. So, uh, 359 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun for him. It's gonna be fun 360 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: for me watching him do it, you know, because he 361 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: hadn't done it in a while. But at the same time, 362 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: he was one of the best that ever did it. 363 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: So I mean you kind of intrigued with that. You 364 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: haven't really you haven't really been around with you. Yeah, 365 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch him do it, you know, because 366 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: it is different. Let's just be honest. Marvin's competitive, just 367 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: like all of us are. So I think he's looking 368 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: forward to Sunday. When you were like going Cleveland, people 369 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: here instantly began speculating, will Hugh be back to Cincinnati? 370 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: Did you wonder if there might be something I want? 371 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: I was hoping that there would be something because again, 372 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: as I said, I would want to be someplace that 373 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: that I you know, respect everybody in the building and 374 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: people who know me know me personally, and again it's 375 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: it's a tremendous opportunity for me, and I'm just thankful, 376 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: you know that they said, Hey, Hugh, come on home. 377 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 1: Here's an opportunity for you to come and help, and 378 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: let's go as a coach in what ways can a 379 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: new voice or a new voice and a new role 380 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: impact a team. Well, it can be impactful, but it 381 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: can also hurt too, you know, And I get that. 382 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: So I just have to, you know, like I said, 383 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: play my role to the best of my ability. I 384 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: don't want to do anything to upset anything that they 385 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: have going on here. But at the same time, if 386 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: I can help, I do want to help do I 387 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: wish I never left, Nah, I don't. I think the 388 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: experience in Cleveland was good, you know, regardless of what 389 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: the record was. I mean, it was an opportunity and 390 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: an experience and I can you know, you can't get 391 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: those back, and I think I'm a better coach for it, 392 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: you know, having gone through it. But at the same time, 393 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, nobody wants to have that kind of record, 394 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: you know. But I'm looking forward to being here helping 395 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: this organization win and getting this organization back to where 396 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: it needs to be. The last time Hugh was part 397 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: of the staff in Cincinnati, the Bengals tied the franchise 398 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: record with twelve regular season wins and might have finished 399 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: with more if Andy Dalton didn't break his thumb. With 400 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: four games to go. That season, with Hugh serving as 401 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, the Bengals average twenty six point two points 402 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 1: a game. This year, they're averaging twenty six point one 403 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: under Bill Laser. That's despite an offensive line that is 404 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: much improved from last year, but it's still a work 405 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: in progress. One of the newcomers up front is right 406 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: tackle Bobby Hart, and this week he talks shop with 407 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: Dave Lapham. All Right, Bobby, offensive line Baltimore Ravens always 408 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: a big challenge. I mean, their mentality is pressure, their 409 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: mentality is blitz. You guys cooked them, yeah, I mean 410 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: you you threw them out of the blitz. You guys 411 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: made a lot of plays, big plays against that blitz 412 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: and they and they blinked, they flinched. Gonna try to 413 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: do that again. The main thing that we do and 414 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: the first game was communicating. I feel like that's the 415 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: biggest thing, you know. Just like you say, they like 416 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: to throw a lot of things that show a lot 417 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: of pressure, a lot of blitzes. So to me, communication 418 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: is just the best the most important thing that we, 419 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, do from the receivers to the quarterback, though 420 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: entire old line, making sure the old line the backs 421 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: on the same page, so we can pick up those 422 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: blitzes and pick up those pressures, and you have a 423 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: quarterback that can recognize. I mean, he sees a lot 424 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: of things. He sees some things pre snap that usually 425 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: are true. Sometimes you know, everybody's gonna get pooled from 426 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: pre snap to post snap. At his percentage of recognizing 427 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: pretty early and making them play as higher than the 428 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: smart guy. Yeah, definitely. You know, in New York, I 429 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: had the opportunity to be with Eli and he's you know, 430 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: he does a great job of doing that. So you're 431 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: coming here and see Andy doing the same, the same 432 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: things that Eli does, just recognizing things to get you 433 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: out of things, get you into things. It's just they're 434 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: definitely on the same level. So I've had something to 435 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: compare it to. Andy does a great job. You're you're 436 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: a young man, but you got a lot of NFL experiencement, 437 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: You get a lot of NFL reps under your belt 438 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: for a guy your age. In fact, I don't think 439 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: I know anybody that's got as many reps at this 440 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: stage of their career as you do. How advantageous is 441 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: it when you're going into a stretch run you know, 442 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: seven games four him against division on his division rivals. 443 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: Every game is a big game, pressure weeks. How big 444 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: an advantage of all the all the experience you Gardner, Yes, 445 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: it's definitely advantage. Man. It's it's like anything goes. You know, 446 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: you can talk about doing it, and you know you 447 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: can be on the board and be in practice and 448 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: you know, do all the other things. But until you 449 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: get in the game actually get those jups, there's nothing 450 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: like it, man, Like you just alluded to, I have 451 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: a lot of them over my four years, and I 452 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: definitely you know, watch film of you know where I 453 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: was and where I am now and just how I 454 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: can learn, always trying to get better. So it's just 455 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: always something that you can go off of. They get 456 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: the couple of guys. Their last name starts with s 457 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: the es boys. You know, they got Sugs and Smith 458 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: and they're tied for the team lead with five and 459 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: a half sacks. They come off the edge, they're the 460 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 1: edge guys and Sucks He'll come off of both edges. 461 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: So you've played against them. How good a player is Sugs? 462 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: And can you compare them to anybody that you played 463 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: against before? H Yeah, I mean I feel like Sugs 464 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: is carn name his own class. I kind of kind 465 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: of grouping with a guy, kind of like Nick Perry 466 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: and Green Bayer I play with. You know, they have 467 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: they have good speed and stuff. But you can't just, 468 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: you know, just think that it's just all speed because 469 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: that's what they want you to do, so they can 470 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: use their power and things like that. So you have to, 471 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: you know, you play the game with them, and it's 472 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: give and take game. You know, those guys chess match 473 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: and things like that. But they're great rushers, uh smith 474 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: and subs, you know, coming off the edge, giving great moves, 475 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: you know, working counter moves and things like that. You 476 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: definitely have to have your head on and just be 477 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: on your game going as you get Joe Mixon, even 478 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: though he's missed two games, is tenth in the NFL 479 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: and rushing Joe's talent. Man, how important is it to 480 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: get to get Joe off against his Ravens and stay balanced. 481 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: You gotta run it someing right, Feed them man, Feed 482 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: Joe man. I'm definitely on the feed Joe training hundred 483 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: saying that's my guy. May He's a great talent man. 484 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: He missed two games in the bye weekend. He's taught 485 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: still top ten in the in the league. Man, it 486 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: just goes to show you and then you know what 487 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: he can do out of the backfield and things like that. 488 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: He's works in pass protection. He's definitely am just you 489 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: know all around back that can just do it all. 490 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: And I'm definitely on the feed roal train. So you 491 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: and Redmond, we've had a few games now. You missed 492 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: a player next to him last week with the hamstring 493 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: issue that he had. But looks like all sings green 494 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: light go for this one. But working against with each 495 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: other and against you know, looks that you've seen. Now 496 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: you have a little repertoire of experience against certain looks. 497 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: How much better are you guys getting on a week 498 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: by week basis? We were watching film I want to 499 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: say it was actually the first Baltimore Ravens game, and 500 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: just some of the stuff that we were just doing 501 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: that you know a player could have went for five 502 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: when when it did go for five yards, but you know, 503 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: just things that we know now how to get that 504 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: play to go for ten twelve, hopefully break the big one. 505 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: It's just uh, you know, it means, it means the 506 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: most like we talked about earlier. It's just you know, 507 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: that game experience, knowing that you know, we're sitting by 508 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: each other in the meet and we see that look. 509 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: We're just like, we know what's do now, So it's 510 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: it's awesome. So we talked about you know, Frank and 511 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: your thoughts are Frank earlier in the season when we 512 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: when we chatted. But now Frank's rules. You know, Rank, 513 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: Frank's got rules that one rule covers a lot of things, 514 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: a lot of different looks, a lot of different configurations 515 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: they can do defensively. How how pleasurable is it to 516 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: play in a system like that now that you're you know, 517 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: nine games in coming up on game number ten. Man, 518 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: it's it's awesome. It means the world to everybody on 519 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: the offense a line. I've been in systems where you know, 520 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, playing and you've got forty different 521 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,719 Speaker 1: looks that the defense can give you, and it's like, uh, 522 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: you know, Frank big things that he wants us to 523 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: play fast. So I feel like that's why he simplifies it. 524 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: You know, we got rules, We got base rules that 525 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: cover you know, pretty much everything. Like you just said, 526 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: we note in the season. It's you know, the things 527 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: that we started in the season, it's not about to change. 528 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: So I really appreciate that. And it means a lot 529 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: as an offensive linement when you can you know and 530 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: you know, you know because this is your rule, you're 531 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: not guessing and you could just play fast and that 532 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: split second is you know, that's eternity in football. So 533 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: it's definitely good final thought. And appreciate your carving so 534 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: much time for me on the road. You've been on 535 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: the road in loud places. Man. You've been in the 536 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: in the NFC East, now here you are in the 537 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,719 Speaker 1: nc North. I mean it's crazy. It's crazy in Baltimore now. 538 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: You know they love their football. How important is it 539 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: to try to make that crowd sitting on their hands, 540 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: get off to good start and quiet them down? Man? Man, uh, 541 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's you don't even really pay attention 542 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: to the crowd. Man. Where you're in a groove of things. Man, 543 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: you're going on silent snap, you're communicating and stuff like that. Man. 544 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: Honestly me, I love being in those environments. Man. I 545 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: remember when you used to be at Florida State where 546 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: you go to Death Valley, and you know that's be 547 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,719 Speaker 1: some of the funnest games, you know, because it's like 548 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: you gotta you have a you know, a test. Can 549 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: you quiet the crowd? You know? And I kind of 550 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: look at it like that, can we get this take 551 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: this crowd out of it? And you know they might 552 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: start off, you know, rocking and things like that, but 553 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: as the game goes, if you do what you're supposed do, 554 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: you know, you nullify us. So it would definitely be 555 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: a challenge that you know, I feel like we're all 556 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: looking forward to and I can't wait to get into Baltimore. 557 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: Thanks Bobby, good luck, all right, thank you. I appreciate it. 558 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: Lap mentioned how young Bobby is. He's in his fourth 559 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: NFL season and he is less than two months older 560 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: than rookie center Billy Price. Hart started training camp at 561 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: Florida State when he was only sixteen years old. Now 562 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: time for this week's No The Fox segment. Former University 563 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: of Cincinnati football and basketball player Brad Jackson is the 564 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: ideal expert this week. He's a member of the Baltimore 565 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: media covering the Ravens, but in his playing days, he 566 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: was a linebacker on perhaps the greatest defense in NFL history. 567 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: Back in two thousand in Baltimore when Marvin Lewis was 568 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: the coordinator and the Ravens won the Super Bowl, Brad 569 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: joined us on the Bengals Game Plan Show. You can 570 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,479 Speaker 1: speak to Marvin Lewis's ability to be a play caller 571 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: as a defensive coordinator better than anybody because you know 572 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: you played for Marvin Lewis. What do you expect how 573 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: to Marvin Lewis when he h rolls into Baltimore on 574 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: Sunday as a play caller on the defensive side of things. Well, well, 575 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: first and foremost, you know, obviously you talked about my 576 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: relationship with Marvin. You know, he changed my career. We 577 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: did great things, We set records on defense that still remain, 578 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: and obviously won the Super Bowl in two thousand and 579 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: thirty five. But a lot of what's going to happen 580 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: now And to Marvin, I know, throughout the years and Cincinnati, 581 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people were complaining he was actually excellent 582 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: as a leader to to not get involved in defense, 583 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: probably as much as I would have liked and probably 584 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: as much as he probably would have liked. But that's 585 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: that's what leaders do. That's what real great leaders do, 586 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: they don't meddle with things. And you know he would 587 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: have his suggestions, but he would leave you know, the 588 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: defense up to them or you know who or PAULI 589 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: or whoever was out there. And now that he's a coordinator, 590 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: his name is on this. And we heard Hugh Jackson, 591 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: who obviously you know, was fired in a former Bengers coach, 592 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: but fired from the Browns, and you know he's going 593 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: to be back helping out. You heard him say, you 594 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: know obviously after he was fired that if he's going 595 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: to go down, he'd rather go down with what he 596 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: did best. And he probably should have, you know, had 597 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: more involvement in the offense, and maybe he would still 598 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: be in Cleveland. I don't know, you know, but what 599 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: I can tell you is that there will be a 600 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: greater intention from the defense, there will be a greater 601 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: sense of urgency, and there will be a tremendous amount 602 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: of increasing focus from the players, because that's what Marvin 603 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: Lewis demands from your players to do your job. I 604 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: know Bill Belichick gets a lot of credit for it, 605 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: but Marvin Lewis started that, you know, far way back 606 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety eight. For me, when I got to 607 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: Baltimore after leaving Universe Cincinnati of doing your job and 608 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: paying attention to the detail and then going out there 609 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: and playing your butt off. So I fully expect that 610 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: the way the defense is going to come out this 611 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: Sunday out here in Baltimore at the M ANDT Bank Stadium, 612 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: you're going to see an increase of intensity and increase 613 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: in urgency and a greater attention to detail. Yeah, that's 614 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. In conversation with John 615 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: Harbaugh today on a conference call, you know, I said, boy, 616 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of intrigue, a lot of unknown in 617 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: this football game. What kind of adjustments will Marvin Lewis 618 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: make from a defensive standpoint? And then on the other 619 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: side of things, who's going to be your quarterback? And 620 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: coach Habbud just kind of chuckled and it's like, yeah, 621 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: that's that is interesting. Who is going to be our quarterback? 622 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: You know, he's not going to about to he's not 623 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: about to divulge anything, but what do you think do 624 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: you think it's Joe Flacco with that bum right hip? 625 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: Do you think it's Lamar Jackson? And who will will 626 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: RG three be up? If Joe Flacco has that hip issue, 627 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: and I guess I look at it, if Lamar Jackson 628 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: RG three or both the quarterbacks, your game plan is 629 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: going to be similar than if Joe Flacco is a quarterback, 630 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: and then Lamar Jackson has to go in for Joe. 631 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: For Joe Flacco, that's two different kinds of schematics. I mean, 632 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: it's kind of an interesting dynamic at quarterback. How do 633 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: you think an unfolds man? Well, well, first and foremost, 634 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: you're right. And Marvel Lewis said a great today in 635 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: the conference call out here that we heard, which what 636 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: he said, he's not really worried about who John Harball 637 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: is going to put out at quarterback. He has to 638 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: worry about the Cincinnati Bengals. And that goes to what 639 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: I just said last where you have to take care 640 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: of your business. You have to handle your job. I 641 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: don't care because throughout the course of a game, say 642 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco does start, well, guess what in every game 643 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: this year, the Baltimore Ravens have planned maybe eight to 644 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: twelve to fifteen plays of this new little kind of 645 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: quote unquote wildcat whatever you want to call it, where 646 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: Lamar and Joe Flacker were on the field at the 647 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: same time, right, so you still had to prepare for that, 648 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: and you're one hundred percent correct. Lab Where if it's 649 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: RG three, who hasn't even been active all year for 650 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: the fans out in Cincinnati that you know obviously don't 651 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: follow the Ravens as closely as I. He hasn't even 652 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: had on hilmet and shoulder pads dog since the preseason, 653 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: So I highly doubt that you're going to start him. 654 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: Is it possible, Yeah, but he hasn't had any of 655 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: those rests because behind the closed doors, Lamar Jackson has 656 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,479 Speaker 1: been getting all the rests with the number two, and 657 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: he's been you know, they've been pushing him along little 658 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: by little. So I don't expect Joe Flaker to play Sunday. 659 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be Lamar. They just don't 660 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: want to tell Marvin because they know Marvin as great 661 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: as a designer of blisses and schemes that he has 662 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: been as a coordinator in this league, that he is 663 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: going to dial with some things. And trust me, no 664 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: matter who's playing quarterback, they're going to have to change 665 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: some things from what occurred when the Bang was beat 666 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: the Ravens in Cincinnati early in the season. So you know, 667 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: they just have to take care of the salves, no 668 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: matter if it's Lamar, no matter if it's RG three, 669 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: or no matter if it's Joe. So you know, hardball 670 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: is not gonna give it away. He kind of costs 671 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: the flak out here because you know, last Friday on 672 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: the ninth, at five TIM, they did a Washington, DC 673 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: style kind of like media drop at five PM on 674 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: a Friday during a buy a week when the players 675 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: were already gone out of town that Joe Flacco's next 676 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: start would be in Jeopardy, which was nine days later. 677 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: So and then today he comes out and he says, 678 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to address this right now. I'm not answering 679 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: one question or any questions, and we don't feel we 680 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: have to answer to anyone. Well, unfortunately, there's a lot 681 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: of PSL owner and sweetholders and fans that are kind 682 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: of like, well, you told us last Friday Joe Flacco's hurt, 683 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: but against the game against the Steelers, he didn't miss 684 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: a play and he finished the entire game in that 685 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: lost a week and a half ago here at Baltimore 686 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: before they went on to buy, so, I honestly think 687 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: it will be Lamar Jackson. He has struggled obviously since 688 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: the preseason that he talked about it himself where he 689 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: was throwing a lot of ducks his exact words, because 690 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: he was having to adjust to the NFL football is 691 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,719 Speaker 1: different than the NCAA football. So he was having struggles 692 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: adjesting with the grip and the throw. He's worked some 693 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: of those things, but you best believe that no matter 694 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: what happens, no matter whose quarterback the Cincinnati Bengals, whether 695 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: you're a linebacker, you got to stay in your gap. 696 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: Whether you're a defensively end, you gotta stay you know, 697 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: keep contained if your tackle, if you're spy corners got 698 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: to keep their eyes that have good eyes. You have 699 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: to do those things defensively, whether it's Joe Flacco or 700 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: whether it's Lamar Jackson or RG three, no doubt talking 701 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: about the Ravens defense, which you know a lot about 702 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: you you're a participant in your career with the Ravens defense, 703 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: very very historically proud, a lot of tradition. I mean, 704 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: blue collar is going to smack you around it very physical. 705 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: Second in the NFL in yards allowed, second in the 706 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: NFL and points allowed big difference this year. Though thirty 707 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,439 Speaker 1: four takeaways last year led the league, twenty two interceptions 708 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 1: led the league this year seven takeaways third few US 709 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: at this stage of the season, just five interceptions. Is 710 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: it just that's how it is in the league, you 711 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: know they come in bunch of or is there a 712 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: reason for your estimation? Well, I think you're right. I 713 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: think it's a combination of boats. You know, two years 714 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: ago here in Baltimore, that was a big complaint that 715 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: the Baltimore was near the bottom of the National Football 716 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: League and turnovers, and then last year they turned it around. 717 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: This year. Talking to Martindale, who obviously was a linebacker 718 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: coach when I was at the Universe Cincinnati on Rex 719 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: Ryan's staff when we were in college and is now 720 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator here in Baltimore, you know, talking to 721 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: him weekly. They're they're working hard, they're doing all the 722 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: things in practice. They just haven't had an opportunity to 723 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: get their hands on the footballs. And part of that 724 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: is they're not getting the pressure that they were getting 725 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: early in the season with the front seven. So they're 726 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: still you know, when they went to Tennessee and they 727 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: had ten eleven sacks in the game. You know, quarterbacks 728 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: just aren't turning to football over, they're not throwing it 729 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: up there. So unfortunately they haven't had an opportunity to 730 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: make as many turnovers as they would like. But I 731 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: agree with you, he's talked about it. We've talked about it. 732 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: I talked about it with Chris Hewitt, former air kat 733 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: who was the secondary coach here in Baltimore, and he, 734 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: you know, flat out said, they firmly believe that, you know, 735 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,240 Speaker 1: they come in bunches and they just have to continue 736 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: to work at it. So by them not getting to 737 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: the quarterback as much and not putting as much pressure 738 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: to force those you know, turnovers in the secondary, you know, 739 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 1: they've played solid, but they still haven't had their chance 740 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,919 Speaker 1: an opportunity to get many interceptions because the balls quite 741 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: frankly haven't been thrown down a field as much deep 742 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: against the Ravens. And the other side of it is, 743 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: you know, the people that they played Pittsburgh a couple 744 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, they just took advantage of the linebackers, 745 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: which to me, and you know, pains me to say 746 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: as a former linebacker here, the linebackers have kind of 747 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: been lacking in coverage here in Baltimore. See Jay Moseley 748 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: is a great pro bowler. We all know that he's 749 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: got to get a huge extension, but the last couple 750 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: of years, his coverage, which is kind of what he 751 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: was known for, hasn't been what it's been. I know 752 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,959 Speaker 1: he's been fighting through some injuries and that sort of thing, 753 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: but everybody's injured and you got to go out there 754 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: and do your job. So it's one of those things 755 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: that I'm sure the Bengals hope that they don't get 756 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: on get on track with getting turnovers this Sunday here 757 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: at the Big Crab Cake downtown. I'm sure the Ravens 758 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: hope that they find a way to get some of 759 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: those turnovers to take the pressure off Lamar Smith and 760 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: try to give the offense as many opportunities and try 761 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 1: to put points him as possible. One final question. Appreciate 762 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: your time. I'm kind of up against the clock, but 763 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: I need to ask you, besides Flacco, any significant injuries 764 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: that might be a concern for the Ravens in this one. Well, 765 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: both tackles you have. Orlando Brown Junior obviously is at 766 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: right tackle. He was kind of nicked up. Ronnie Stanley 767 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 1: was out last week. They're not sure. He was limited 768 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: in practice today. So for the Bengals that's been that 769 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: could be an advantage, and it's been a disadvantage for 770 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: the Ravens in the last couple of weeks because the 771 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: injuries on the offensive line. They haven't been able to 772 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: protect Joe Flacco and they haven't been able to consistently 773 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: get any type of running game going. All right, thanks, 774 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: do you see Athletics Hall of Famer Brad Jackson one 775 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: of the most passionate former Bearcat you will ever find. 776 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 1: He recently traveled to Cincinnati for the Bearcat basketball game 777 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: against Ohio State in order to be there for the 778 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: reopening of Fifth Third Arena. And I would love to 779 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: see Brad Jackson's name. I'm the Ring of honor at 780 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: NIPPERD Stadium. That's going to do it for this episode 781 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: of the podcast. If you haven't done so already, don't 782 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 1: forget to subscribe on iTunes, Stitcher, or pod Bean. And 783 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: if you have a minute, please give it a rating 784 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: or leave a comment. Your feedback has always appreciated, and 785 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,879 Speaker 1: five star ratings help more Bengals fans find this podcast. 786 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm Dan Horde and thanks for listening to the Bengals 787 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 1: Booth podcast.