1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Ron and it takes more and it's longer to diagnose 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: a car that you've never seen, especially one that somebody 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: else has worked them. That always makes it worse. That 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: mean with the car doctor? Well, in the flex fueld truck, 5 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: that will jump you up from seven to eight. With 6 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: fifty I'm still getting a little bit of a knock 7 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: and I'm wondering am I doing the wrong thing by 8 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: by running that not if it's a flex fuel vehicle? 9 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron Andanian, the car doctor, 10 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to 11 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 12 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 13 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: call in. The garage doors are open, but I am 14 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: here to take your falls at eight, five, five and 15 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: now running. It's been a temptuous couple of weeks at 16 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: the shop, it really has. We've we've been rolling along. 17 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: I mean we're putting out work and cars. I think 18 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: we're running somewhere. Some weeks we're running seventy from of 19 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: what we normally do. We just we just don't stop. 20 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: We just it's just crazy. Um. You know, you call 21 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: the shop during the week and you're gonna get this 22 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: message that says, you know, due to the volume of 23 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 1: cars in the shop today, we're not answering the phone. 24 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: I mean we're not answering the phone and it wouldn't matter. 25 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: I can hire five people, I'd have work for ten. 26 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of it has to do 27 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: with that recent story. They came out in the Wall 28 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: Street Journal, among other papers and other sources, that said 29 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: the average price of a new vehicle loan in this 30 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: in this country today right now, is seven hundred and 31 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: fifty three dollars a month. And as a result of that, 32 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: we're seeing people fixed cars that two years ago, three 33 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: years ago now. I'm not gonna put you know, that 34 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: kind of money in people are spending three to five 35 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: grand on a car now like to fix it, to 36 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: shape it up, you know, like we used to do 37 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: whale changes fifteen years ago. It's crazy. It's just crazy, 38 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: and sometimes it comes back to bite us a little bit. 39 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: We have an o seven Lincoln and that's the story 40 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you. You know, if, if, if 41 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: we ever get the chance to have dinner, just if 42 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: you don't if you want to hear everything that's in 43 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: my head. All you have to do is say how 44 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: is your day? My wife does that. She Um, he 45 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: will sit down and we'll have dinner and Um, you know, 46 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: because it's just the two of us in the Empty 47 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: House now. And you know she she's got a seatbelt 48 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: attached to her kitchen chair where she sits at the 49 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: table and she puts on the full harness and she'll 50 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: say so, Ron, how is your day? And then I 51 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: take her for this twisting, turning ride about. You know, 52 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: can't get parts, can't do this, can't find this information. 53 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: got this part, it was bad. got this part it 54 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: came out damage. got this part it was wrong. You know, 55 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: this person didn't show up. Fourteen other people rolled in 56 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: the door and she's got this seatbelt figuratively on. She 57 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: says boy, she goes. You have a crazy day. Yeah, Oh, 58 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: seven Lincoln town car came into the shop about three 59 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: and a half maybe four weeks ago, and I think 60 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: we talked about this a little bit where the customers 61 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: complaint was that the remote key fobs don't work and 62 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: right away they assumed dangerous word, especially on family radio, 63 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: that it was bad key fop batteries. I mean, Hey, 64 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: who wouldn't write? That's the simplest, easiest thing to go for. 65 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: It's something you can try at home. And she had 66 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: changed the fobs, the fop batteries, and that didn't work 67 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: and so it landed on my doorstep. I you know, 68 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: I did the same due diligence. I did it a 69 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: little more scientifically. I have a specific tool that I 70 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: can take out that you it reads the fobs to 71 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: tell you if they're working, and it said they were working. 72 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: So I said, well, it's not the battery. So I 73 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: taped up these other batteries that she had given me 74 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: just in case and put it to the order and 75 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: said okay, now let's go diagnosed. And I diagnosed it 76 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: and turned out to be in two thousand seven on 77 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: this Lincoln Town Carl. Like a lot of Ford products 78 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: in that that era, Ford Crown Vix had the remember 79 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: for the Crown Victoria great car, probably one of the 80 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: reasons they got rid of it. And Uh Um, you 81 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: know the Mercury Grand Markey's the mercury line remembers mercury 82 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: right and the driver's door module, among other things, runs 83 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: control for remote lock, remote keyless entry, and some of 84 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: the vehicles it has to do with the tire pressure 85 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: monitoring systems, depending upon the year in the age, and 86 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: it's sort of an essential piece. It's it's just difficult 87 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: to you know, I don't think, I don't. I don't 88 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: know if we have the ability to. You know, if 89 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: we've got a remote key FOB, would we want to 90 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: have a broken fob? That's probably gonna be so frustrating. 91 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: So I had at it, I diagnosed it and I 92 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about this for a couple of reasons. 93 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: I want to tell you about the part that we 94 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: couldn't get for three and a half weeks and what 95 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: a wonderful Ford Parts Guy have. So Anthony, who I 96 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: know is listening to this, and I'll tell you the 97 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: story about Anthony in a minute. Um, you know, it's, it's, 98 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: it's how do you diagnose a bad module? And people 99 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: a me that. Well, in this case. All right now, 100 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: this is primitive, pete in terms of being on the network. 101 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: When we talk about something on the network, this would 102 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: be like a single wire, you know, a computer from 103 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: when we had primitive networks, if we had them. This 104 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: is back when we had bulletin boards for Internet. Remember 105 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: that bulletin boards. You would log on and the thoughts 106 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: would appear on the screen and they would paint the 107 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: screen and that's how things were interpreted and crazy stuff. Well, 108 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: this is a very primitive system. So, you know, went 109 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: through diagnosed no codes. Couldn't talk to the driver door module. 110 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: It wasn't there, it wasn't on the network. Had some 111 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: communication faults and I found that out by scanning it 112 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: for codes because, you know, and here's a perfect example 113 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: of that, I had no check engine light, because everybody says, Oh, 114 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: it doesn't have any codes as a check engine light on. No, 115 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: it's got nothing to do with that. But we're scanning 116 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: for codes because of other modules on the vehicle that 117 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: may have a fault in them that may not have 118 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: a light representing that fault on the dashboard. Check engine 119 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: light comes on, by the way, just as a point 120 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: of contention, because the clean air act of mandated that 121 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: when the vehicles of missions exceed one and a half 122 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: times the legal limit, the driver, meaning you or me, 123 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: would be alerted by that light on the dashboard and 124 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: that's the bringing in for service and repair because it's 125 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: it's it's got a problem. So, long story short, we 126 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: went and looked. There was communication faults for the driver's 127 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: door module, meaning that it couldn't talk. It was like 128 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: a bad telephone in the house or a bad computer 129 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: on the network. There were two powers, three grounds. I 130 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: had powers and grounds. Okay, I've got powers in grounds. 131 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: This module has to be able to talk as long 132 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: as I don't have a broken communication line going to it, 133 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: as long as the network cable is plugged into the 134 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: back of the router, or the computer, so to speak. 135 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: And I verified that and it was and it it 136 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: was fine. I've got a bad module. Great, I diagnose something. 137 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: Now I gotta find a part. Driver's door module is 138 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: probably the size of two cell phones side by side. It's, 139 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, that big, that that that long, that big, 140 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So for you know, the five 141 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: or six hundred dollars with six hundred bucks or something Um, 142 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: just just not out there. Just like wow, gone. And 143 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: I've got to give Kudos to Anthony over at Mawa 144 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: Ford here in New Jersey. Anthony really goes the extra mile. 145 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: He he put the number out on the net, he 146 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: put the number out to you know, he called it 147 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: vehicle down. And I tell you this story because a 148 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: lot of you call me up and say hey, I 149 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: can't find this part and the dealer can't find this part. 150 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: We don't know what to did. Well, there's a method 151 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: where you can, and I might be talking out of 152 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: my hat because I'm not the Ford Parts Guy, but 153 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: I've seen him do this over and over again, where 154 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,239 Speaker 1: Ford can the dealer can claim vehicle down, which means 155 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: vehicle undrivable once it gets elevated to that status. As 156 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: I under stand it, as Ford as the manufacturer starts 157 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: to produce that part, then they look at the vehicle 158 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: down list and that's the order of priority in which 159 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: things go out. And if you want to get a vehicle, 160 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: you want to get a part to show up quicker. 161 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: It seems to work because I've had him, I've seen 162 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: Anthony do this a couple of times for me and 163 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: it works. Three and a half weeks later we finally 164 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: got a driver's door module and you know, we were 165 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: grateful to get it that fast because originally they were 166 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: talking about December, you know, the one after November. That 167 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: comes after October, and we're in September like Oh boy, 168 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: cars fixed. Customer couldn't have been happy. But even that 169 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: vehicle Um you know just a little bit of programming 170 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: and you know, and this is where repair shops are 171 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: going to fall down, all right, unless their current and 172 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: unless they're training and their technology has kept them up. 173 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: Because to replace that module, the first step in the 174 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: programming calls for. It says transfer the data from the 175 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: old module to the new. Well, if I can't talk 176 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: to the old module, which I couldn't, and that's why 177 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm replacing it, how do I get the data out 178 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 1: of the old module and put it into the new 179 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: how do I program that? Opus to the rescue. I 180 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: got to talk to my buddy Chris over over at 181 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: opus I v S, and you've heard me talk about 182 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: opus and their scan tool. Um More online and I 183 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: think it's opus I vs Dot Com, and Chris was phenomenal. 184 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: He went in there and we used what they call 185 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: as built data, which he had access to, and as 186 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: built data gives him the ability to go in and 187 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: look up, how is that vehicle made? It's sort of 188 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: like they go back to birth. Okay, how is the 189 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: vehicle made? And they're able to program in the initial 190 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: software to give that module that we bought in the 191 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: vehicle identification and then they can go ahead and install 192 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: software that brings it to life, and I think that's 193 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: something that you know, if you're a repair shop out 194 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: there listening and you're saying, yeah, I've heard about opus 195 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 1: and what's it all about, you gotta take a look 196 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: at it. You really do. It's it's sort of like 197 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: the fifth man in the shop, you know, it's it's 198 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: like that football team the fans are considered, you know, 199 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: the extra person on the team. Opus is that extra 200 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: person on the team. They give you the ability. You 201 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: get to be fearless after a while. There isn't anything 202 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: you're afraid that you're not gonna have the ability to 203 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: do when it comes to a scan tool, because the 204 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: tool can go in. They went in and they put 205 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: Ford factory software the scan tool, um portion, v C 206 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: M two or three, I think it was vcm three, 207 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: level software, currents for dealer software, whatever it is, on 208 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: my opus tool and it allowed them to talk to 209 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: it just like the manufacturer would. They programmed the module, 210 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: Chris did a couple of other things, he got it 211 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: and boom done, out the door. Customer couldn't have been happier. 212 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: I couldn't have been happier, and you know, once again. They, they, 213 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: they helped me get another car out the door. Couldn't 214 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: have done it without him. And I guess the moral 215 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: to this story is that auto repair isn't a singular 216 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: event anymore. It takes a good repair shop, it takes 217 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: a good parts guy and in many cases it takes 218 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: a good support team like the guys over at opens 219 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: I vys. So just think about that. When you're picking 220 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: a repair shop or, for your a repair shop and 221 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: you're picking your team, make sure you pick the right ones, 222 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: because that's how you come out on top and that's 223 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: how you win the day. So we're gonna open the 224 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: phones when I come back. We've got a lot going 225 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: on today. I think second hour today we're gonna talk 226 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: to Franklin Gauge over at the event and Chevrolet Club 227 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: of America. That's next hour, not this hour. and Um, 228 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: oh Tom has it. Yes, yes, before you go to 229 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: the break, Um, do me a favor during the break 230 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: and send me carpenter Bob's phone number. Why? Well, you 231 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: see how's out in Alco Nevada this week. Visiting our 232 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: friends at K B G Z, who carries our show 233 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: out there, is helping them with a transmitter. Came to 234 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: a traffic light at the corner of twelfth in Idaho 235 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: and there's one of those led billboards and up comes 236 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: one of their djs, know their morning Dj, Sandy, and 237 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: you know she's looking good on the billboard and they said, 238 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: Oh great, the station Bob Billboards. And as I'm sitting 239 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: there at the light, it cycles through and it does 240 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: a it comes up with a fast food thing and 241 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: it comes up with the thing about some noxious weed. Uh, 242 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: and as the light turns green, up comes Ron and 243 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: Ayan's face and I almost rear ended the guy in 244 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: front of me. Think of all the bike can't get 245 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: away from you, two thousand miles away. Dude, you're on 246 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: a billboard Alco Nevada. I think of all the body 247 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: work I'm going to generate out there the body shops, 248 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: what they think? Of all the therapists who are gonna 249 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: be happy in town there, because now people know they 250 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: have to look at this face that only a mother 251 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: could love. That's on the radio. You know it's at 252 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: Tom I gotta tell you it's it's it's kind of 253 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: a great feeling to have your face on a billboard. 254 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: It really is. I actually called the station manager. I 255 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: forgot to tell you this because I had heard about this. 256 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: I didn't want to tell you. I didn't want to 257 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: upset you, Um, but I called rich, the station owner manager, 258 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: and Um, I talked to him about it and I 259 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: just told him, I said, you know, for all my 260 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: years on radio, that was just one of the greatest 261 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: things I think I've ever seen. I told him point blank. 262 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: I said, thank God my mother is not alive because 263 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: she'd want to drive out to Nevada, take the billboard 264 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: down and carry it around with her look at but 265 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: it was still cool. It was cool to sit there 266 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: and I was like holy well, and and listen, as 267 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: long as we're giving credit where credit is coming from, 268 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: and do Um. I also heard a story about you 269 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: this week that you are out at the Home Depot 270 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: in Elko and you were buying. No, No, it was 271 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: o'riley Ota parts. That's what it was. You're Oriyoto parts. 272 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: Somebody told me this story yesterday. You were o'riley Otto Parts. 273 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: And you know, you're just as bad as me. And 274 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: now you've got a taste of it right, because you 275 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: know what's it like to be cited as the car 276 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: doctor or the car doctors producer. You're standing there talking 277 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: to the girl at Orileyota parts. You're buying something. This conversation. 278 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: The person that was with you told me that she 279 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: kept looking at you with that cock. I'd look like 280 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: I know this voice, I know this person, and you 281 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: looked at her and said you listen to one or 282 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: three point nine, don't you? And she said yeah, and 283 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: he goes hi, I'm rony in the car doctor and 284 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: you did some kind of a billboard or something and 285 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: she just went, Oh my God, I did. I did 286 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: the orelly billboard and she was like, Oh my God, 287 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: you're on the car doctor show. I said yes, I am. 288 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: I said thanks for the battery. You have a nice day, 289 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: thanks for listening and walked out the door. You know, 290 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of getting business cards printed up that say 291 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: who was that mass man? It was the car doctor, 292 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: and get the Little Lone Ranger theme put on. Anyway. Eight, five, five, 293 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: five zero, nine zero. We're coming back to an action 294 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: pack show. Don't go away, we'll return right after this. 295 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: Whether it's a little red corvette or you go. You've 296 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: come to the right place to get that car fixed. 297 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: Ron and ay in the car doctor. Eight five, five, five, six, zero, nine, nine, 298 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: zero zero. Now back to Ron. Hey, UM, carpenter bobb 299 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: will be there right before the end of the show 300 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: to enlarge the top of the door, so you know 301 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: you can get your head out of the studio when 302 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: you're done. That'd be great. I can't wait. Um, at 303 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: least at least. I don't know which way I'm going then. Um, 304 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: but what are we gonna do when we get to 305 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: the next level? Real quick, you stop to think about 306 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. Hey, you know, I gotta tell you 307 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: the truth, Tom, and I say this, and I know 308 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: the listeners out there can appreciate this, it's not too 309 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: often a radio personality gets up on a billboard. It's 310 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: it's not like they need to know what I look like. 311 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: And Uh, be kind, Tom, I just you know, and 312 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: I said to Tom, that was really cool tell you there. 313 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: You are larger than life. I gotta Tell You, Tom, 314 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: it's pretty I'm telling you, it's just weird. My wife 315 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: had a a class. She does, Um, teachings of the 316 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: Western civilization and energy work and Raiki and things like that. 317 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: and Um, last night I went to class and I 318 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: just Um, I was the gatekeeper. I was the guy 319 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: collecting tickets and eight of the fifteen people, ten of 320 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: the fifteen people actually that showed up. When you're the 321 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: billboard guy, yeah, you. I'm like, how did they know that? 322 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: Because my wife's got it all over her facebook page. 323 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: So the things women. Let's let's get the show going. 324 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: Let's go over to Maria and Wisconsin. Oh, a sprint 325 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: the Maria or out with the car doctor. How can 326 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: I help? Hi, thank you for taking my call. Yeah, 327 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: we have. We have a two thousand eight dodge sprinter. 328 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: We put in a different engine and new injectors and 329 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: it went into a limp mode. This is a diesel, 330 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: or I guess it is the last of the Mercedes engine. Okay, 331 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: so it's it's the it's the Mercedes diesel. Yes, and Um, 332 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: it came up needing a map sensors, the air intakes sensor, 333 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: so we changed that. That seems to be good, but 334 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: it's still burning too rich and it's coming up that 335 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: the air level is at zero. Which word is it? 336 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: Maybe just a computer thing now that needs to be 337 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: like changed up. Any any fault any fault codes? Any 338 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: any fault codes in it? Uh No, it was just 339 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: the one sensor. That came up and after we replaced that, 340 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: then that went away and then it just came up 341 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: with the zero level for air. Okay, and now, if 342 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: memory something else comes up, if memory serves me correct. 343 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: Why do I why do I seem to recall something 344 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: about having to adjust the PCM and in a diesel 345 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: version of the sprinter for calibration of the injectors. Did 346 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: anybody mention that to you? A M well, the engine computer. Um, 347 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: you know, I could be wrong about that, but something 348 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: reminds me that we're working on fifteen year old technology here. 349 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: But something reminds me that there was a calibration of 350 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: some sort that had to be done because you replaced 351 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: the injectors. Did you use Um Chrysler or is it aftermarket? 352 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: Is a junkyard? What is it? Um? No, we actually 353 00:17:55,680 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: ordered them from a place that does just injestures and stuff. Right, UM, 354 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: did they say anything about having to match? Because I 355 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: thought there was a flow rate adjustment that they had 356 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: to do on that engine. I when I picked him up. 357 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: They didn't tell me anything. All Right, I'll tell you what, Marie, 358 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: stay put, stay right where you are. We're up against 359 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: the clock. When we come back we'll continue this conversation. 360 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm running any of the car doctor. We'll be back 361 00:18:23,200 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: right after this. Don't go away, oh the Magas. Welcome 362 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: back right in the car doctor, Marie, you're still there 363 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin. Okay. So, no, it's not injectors. I'm thinking 364 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: mass airflow. Sorry, wrongs. I had to sit there for 365 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: a second and think. So let me ask you this question. 366 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: If there's no codes and there's no dash warning lights on, 367 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: what makes you think you have a problem? You're going 368 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: into limp in, aren't you? Um, yeah, well, it's it 369 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: was in the mode and the black smoke and stuff 370 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: was just horrendous coming out of it. We're afraid of 371 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: overloading the new injectors with too much fuel. Now it 372 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: did get better when the math censor was put in, 373 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: but it's still running too rich. Okay, have you done 374 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: a region yet? Um No, I don't believe so. Okay, 375 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: region is where it will clean out the cat and 376 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: it'll go through the diesel particulate filter and sometimes you 377 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: may find that as an issue. So a couple of 378 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: just a couple of quick things to try. All right, 379 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: are you in limp mode now or it's it's out 380 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: of limp mode? No, we think it's still in all right. 381 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: So we have to treat this as it's stuck in 382 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: limp mode. All right, if it's in limp mode, it's 383 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: in limp mode and that's that's the key characteristic. Always die, 384 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: you know. Sometimes you got a diagnosed by symptom and condition, 385 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: so without any codes and we're stuck in Limp I've 386 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: had it where on that particular generation. Sometimes I have 387 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: to do a cat regeneration, an exhaust regeneration, probably two 388 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: or three times to clean the stuff up, depending upon 389 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: how rich it was. What was you what was the 390 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: reason why you replaced the engine? Engine failure or it 391 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: was running rich and then it failed. How did the 392 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: engine fail? What caused the replacement? The engine itself wasn't horrible, 393 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: had high miles, coump, but then an injector was bad 394 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: and then it actually got both off and so they 395 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: decided to replace. My husband decided at that point he 396 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: was just going to replace the engine and the injectors 397 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: and everything. Okay. Does your husband have a scan tool 398 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: working on this? Is he working on this? I assume 399 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: he is not any longer, unfortunately, lost in last November. 400 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry we do have. Thank you. We have two 401 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: mechanics that are working on it and my son was 402 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: a mechanic in the military and he does have the 403 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: scan tool and that's what came up with the map sensors. 404 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: So then here are there intake and then he replaced 405 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: that and it is running better, but it's still running rich. Okay, 406 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: you got a pencil and paper. Okay. So on this 407 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: particular setup there's going to be a couple of pressure sensors. 408 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 1: All right, sometimes there's an exhaust pressure sensor. You've got 409 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: a map sensor. You want to go through and you 410 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: want to look at the pressure sensors. You need to 411 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: know what barometric pressure is the day you're doing this. 412 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,479 Speaker 1: So you've got to tune into the weather channel, all right, 413 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: and there's gonna be a flow chart or there's gonna 414 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: be there's gonna be a table that will show you 415 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: barometric pressure is this. Then the pressure sensors like the 416 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: exhaust Pressu, your censor, the mass say or the map, 417 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: they should read that keyon engine off. All right, so 418 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: it's it's a correlation thing. We just want to verify that, 419 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: you know, the engine is reacting to barometric pressure correctly. 420 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: Because sometimes it can be skewed too far one way 421 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: or the other. Not Enough to set a fault code, 422 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: all right, but enough to skew the way the engine 423 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: manages its fuel, if that makes sense. All right, so 424 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: we're we're kind of looking for a needle in a haystack. If, 425 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: if this is normal altitude, you'll see those sensors read 426 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: fourteen point seven P s. i. normal. You know sea level. 427 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what we're Wisconsin is in the food chain, 428 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: where as it relates to barometric pressure. So you've got 429 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: to kind of look that up. All right, you want 430 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: to make sure all the pressure sensors are reading correct 431 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: for barometric pressure. Then, when you've got the scan toll 432 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: hooked up, go into see if you have the ability 433 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: to initialize them, ass airflow and reset the counters for 434 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 1: the diesel particulate filter and then try and do a region. 435 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: See if you can get the system to do a region. Okay, 436 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, said that again. Um, it was to reset 437 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: them to correct the what you're going to you want 438 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: to make sure that the pressure sensors are reading correct pressure, 439 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: matching current barametric pressure. Then you want to use if 440 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: the scan tool has the ability initialize the mass airflow sensor. 441 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: All right, okay, and then you want to reset the 442 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: counters for the diesel particulate filter and then do a 443 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 1: region to a system to an exhaust system region and 444 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: see what that does for you. But your focus has 445 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: to be on limp mode. Now, when you're seeing your 446 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: son has the scan tool, is it and o b 447 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: d two only tool, do you know? Or is it 448 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: a year, make, model, vehicle specific? I believe his is 449 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: just the Um the lesser price of the ones, but 450 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: I do, I do. Mechanical does have the bigger here. Here, 451 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: here's the other issue. All right, if your scan tool 452 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: isn't reading the Trans Module and there's a fault in 453 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: the Trans that could put this vehicle into limp in 454 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: and skew the way the engine runs. And if you 455 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: don't look at all the modules, here's a classic example 456 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: of why. If you don't look at all the modules, 457 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: you're looking at the front of the car and the 458 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: problem isn't a module in the back, so to speak, 459 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: figuratively speaking. So we want to do a complete we 460 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 1: want to do a complete system module scan, complete system 461 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: module scan. Okay, all right, Darling, do that and let's 462 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 1: say we'll talk. We'll talk again if need me. All right, 463 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: good luck, okay, okay, thank you so much. You're very welcome. 464 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: You'll be well. Let's UH, let's real quick. Let's go 465 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: over to Brian and P A will start the conversation 466 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: and see how it goes. Maybe we'll come back to him. Brian, 467 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: you're out the car doctor, Babe. What's going on? Hey, Ron, 468 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: how are you? I have a quick question. I have 469 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: a chance to my wife. Had I have a car 470 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: for my wife. It's a two thousand eighteen chevy spark. 471 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: I bought a brand new for with thirty six thousand 472 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: miles and when I was thinking about doing was trading 473 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: it in for a two thousand nineteen mit to be 474 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: she outlander, with twelve thousand miles on it. Now I'm 475 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 1: in the car business, but I wanted to see what 476 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: you thought longevity wise, which car would be the better car, 477 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: because I don't need the all wheel drive because I 478 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: already have two four wheel drives car sitting at home. Um, boy, 479 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: I tell you what, that's a good question, brother. You know, 480 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: I think. I think the first question I've got is 481 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: what does your wife want? Well, she likes the she 482 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: loves the A chevy spark because it was our first 483 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: new car she ever got and it's great on gas. 484 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: But she also saw the Mitsubishi and she likes that 485 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: and she tried telling me it's my decision. I said no, 486 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: it's her decision. Yeah, it's definitely her decision. Um. Let 487 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: me tell you ums, as a veteran of forty three 488 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: years of marriage, trust me it's her decision, Um, and 489 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 1: you don't want to go there. I think they both 490 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: have their pluses, they both have their minuses. The Chevy 491 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: Spark is, you know, we'll call it an economy car, 492 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: a good little set of wheels. You know, it's gonna 493 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: get some miles on it. If, if it ever gets 494 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: to the eighty two hundred thousand mile mark, it's probably 495 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: done at that point. I don't think they you know, 496 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a vehicle I would expect to 497 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: go two U D fifty thousand or three hundred thousand miles. 498 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: I just don't think they're they're in that caliber. The 499 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: Mitsubishi is probably easily a hundred thousand mile vehicle, but 500 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: I've seen some issues with parts and we're living in 501 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: a very part centric world right now. Yeah, that was mine. 502 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: That's when I my other thing was because I drive 503 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: to work every day, I go past two MIT Tubishi 504 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: dealerships and I passed fifteen GM dealerships, right right. So 505 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: when you say you're in the car business, what do 506 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: you do, Brian? I've been selling cars for the last 507 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: thirty years. So we can't find mama a Toyota. That's 508 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: what I would like to get and I want to 509 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 1: that's what I want. I would rather get her to 510 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: tell you the truth, that rap forward. That's all loaded 511 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: up as what I'd like to get right, but you 512 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: is what you know as well as I do. It's 513 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: tough to find a fine one of news right now, 514 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: isn't it amazing? How the car market just dried up? 515 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: It's it's horrible. I I look at it that you 516 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: I remember. I used to go to Manheim motowalkstion every Friday. 517 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: It will be ten cars there and you can now 518 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: you're paying as much money for a used car at 519 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: the auction block as you are for a brand you 520 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: could for a brand new car. I just read an 521 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: article the other day, I think actually this morning, that 522 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: Ford is having problems delivering certain models are you ready 523 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 1: for this? Because they can't get the Blue Oval Badge 524 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: for the grill made. I'm like, well, I heard, I'll 525 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: heard that, but I'll give you a crazy thing. I 526 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: was on an auction last week Ron and a guy 527 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: was selling at a truck auction. It was a two 528 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: thousand six six oh diesel F four fifty service truck 529 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: with three five thousand miles on it. It did eighteen 530 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: thou dos. Wow. Well, yeah, listen, we could go on 531 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: all day. I know it's crazy. It's I don't know 532 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: where they're taking the economy. I don't know where the 533 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: industry is going. Um, but it sure seems like all 534 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: of a sudden they're just Darn't enough cars to go 535 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: around and I think it's going to get worse as 536 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: time goes on. Um, I wouldn't jump. If it were me, 537 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: I'd probably keep the chevy spark. You know what you got, 538 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: and I'd start looking for that Toyota and I'm sure 539 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: in time that will come up. And I think you're 540 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: better off with the Chevy in terms of parts availability 541 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: and the network of parts sources that you can get, 542 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: whereas that Mitsubishi can be tough at times as it 543 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: ages and I think the burden hand is much better 544 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: than the than the one in the bush. So just 545 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: my two cents. I appreciate it. Thank you very much. Alright, 546 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: good luck to you. Be well. Say you're welcome you too. Bye. Bye, 547 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: brother Ron and any of the card docorated by five zero. 548 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: We're back right after this. Don't go away, dot welcome back. Why? 549 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: Any of the car doctor, by the way, more information 550 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: about this radio show and helpful videos. We're starting to 551 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: put the video library up and expanding on it over 552 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: at the car doctor show dot com. We're also working 553 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: on a text function. Don't tell Tom I haven't told 554 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: him about this yet, but we're gonna have a text 555 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: function during the show at some point. That's gonna allow 556 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: you to talk right in here to me. So we're 557 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: doing that. That should be up in the next couple 558 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: of weeks. Tom By the way, that I tell about 559 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: the changes I'm making. Let's know. I you know, I 560 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: heard something about that, but I like the texting because 561 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: that way people don't have to talk to you right. 562 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: They get that. They get the just tap, TAP, tappen 563 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: away we go. Let's go over Shawn in New Jersey 564 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: speaking ago and claim show and welcome to the car doctor, sir. 565 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: How can I help? Hey, Ron. Yeah, this is my 566 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: mom's car. It's the ninety one to claim and it's got, 567 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: like it's the less than fifty miles it. Recently we're 568 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: noticing that if the car is off for more than 569 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: about a day we have to jump it and then 570 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: let it run twenty minutes or my mom can't take 571 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: it out later in the day. So something's drawing the 572 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: current on the battery when the car is off. We 573 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: haven't measured the current. I haven't measured the current yet, 574 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: but we've ruled out lights. We took the bulb out 575 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: of the interior ceiling length. There is no trunk light 576 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: and it seems like the light in the glove boxes 577 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: going off with the plunger. So I'm kind of curious 578 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: where else, but looking, does it have lights in the visors? 579 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: I don't believe so, okay, just double check that. That 580 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: would be a common fault. Um. If if we're gonna 581 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: try and do this, it's a matter of yeah, let's 582 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: disconnect the negative battery cable. You've got a digital volt 583 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: domemeter with it with a current draw measurement on it 584 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: and we want to measure milliums, all right, and that's 585 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: that's really the only way we're gonna do it. Now, 586 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: keep in mind when you open up the driver's door, 587 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: you're going to activate the circuit for the overhead Dome Light. 588 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: So you've got to keep that plunger depressed. All Right, UM, 589 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: there should be a there should be a door. Well, 590 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: just just just in case, you know, it's it's always 591 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: a good habit. Because, you know what, here, if we're 592 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: gonna work on cars, Sean, let's work on it so 593 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: that we we always do the same thing. All right, 594 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: because if I had five cars with current draw on 595 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: the shop and two of them had the bulb activated 596 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: circuit and that was it, and the other three I 597 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: took the ball about, but I still had computer modules 598 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: that were activated because I opened the door jam switch 599 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: right and I don't know it, I could chase my 600 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: tail for a half hour. So let's my point. My 601 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: point becomes, if we're gonna diagnose something, let's diagnose the 602 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: same way every time. So you know, I put the 603 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: ball back in, all right, because why do I want 604 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: to change the change the environment, and I'd figure out 605 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: a way to de press that switch either a small 606 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: block of wood with a C clamp holding the switch down, 607 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: or I'm gonna pull the switch out and disconnect it. 608 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: However I'm gonna do it. But let's let's get that 609 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: switch bypassed so that we don't have to worry about 610 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: any circuits being energized. And then with the amp meter, 611 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: with the meter set to Milliams, connected to the negative 612 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: side of the battery. All Right, put it in series, 613 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: meaning disconnect the cable. One lead goes to the negative post, 614 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: one lead goes to the cable. What's what's the Milliam draw? 615 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: The magic number is fifty. All right, we want to 616 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: see less than fifty milliams. Fifty widgets. All right, milliams 617 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: seems to scare people. Um, let's we want to see 618 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: less than fifty widgets. Anything more than fifty widgets, okay, Um, then. 619 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: Then then it's suspect. And then, one at a time, 620 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: gonna go. I don't care if there's more than one 621 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: fuse box and ninety one. There's probably only one fuse 622 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: box under the Dash. We're gonna start popping fuses out 623 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: one at a time. Now, take it out, look at 624 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: the meter, put it back in. One time. I explained 625 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: this to somebody. They called me up and they said, Hey, 626 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: I got all fourteen fuses out. Now what do I 627 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 1: do when I want to? Yeah, yeah, yeah, so, you know, 628 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: one at a time, something's going to cause it to change, 629 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: all right, and you may have to wait a little 630 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: bit and let it stabilize in between. All right, it's 631 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: not how quick can you go through it? We're not. 632 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: We're not trying to. You know, it's not a raffle. 633 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: We're not trying to pull numbers. All right, and if 634 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: you go through the circuit and you find that they're 635 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: all all taken care of, and I'll tell you what 636 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: show and sit tight. Let me pull over, take a pause. 637 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: When I come back, we'll finish this conversation. I'm run 638 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: an Indian. Welcome back, Sean. You're still there, sure, yeah, 639 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: let me be quick because we're gonna run out of time, Babe. 640 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: So we're gonna go through a Milliam draw test. Alright, 641 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: one at the time, put it back, one at the time, 642 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: put it back. We're looking for the magic number. We're 643 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: looking to get under fifty. I'm thinking the game probably, 644 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: if it's healthy, you won't see much more than a 645 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: Milliam draw so that being said, okay, when you go 646 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: through all the fuses, if there's one on the if 647 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: there's one in the engine compartment, you gotta go through 648 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: that one as well. All right, when you go through 649 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: all the fuses and it still has a draw, where 650 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 1: are you going next? Right, that's the next question everybody 651 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: always asks me. All right, unplugged the alternator. All right, 652 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: an alternator is the one nobody really stopped to think about. 653 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: It's not necessarily fused, but it can create a draw 654 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: if it's got an internal problem. I'm not saying it is. 655 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: It's just one of the things I check, you know, 656 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: after I go through fuses and I have nothing else, 657 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: I'll go through and unplug the alternator, see what that 658 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 1: does and then I'll start looking around. Are there any 659 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: accessories in the vehicle that don't necessarily work properly? You know, 660 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: things like is there an alarm that goes off because 661 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: it's thing? have an underhood switch for an alarm that's 662 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: being activated that you don't know about? You know, are 663 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: there things that we can bypass? This is an intermittent fault. 664 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: Keep in mind that you could put that millionimeter on 665 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: Min Max hold and have it record over time to 666 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: see if it goes above the Max and what it 667 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: goes to. Things to look for. I'm morning in the 668 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 1: car doctor, reminding each and every one of you, until 669 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: the next time, good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See 670 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: You