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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in. Christmas Eve Eve is here.

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Speaker 1: I hope all of you are having fantastic Thursdays wherever

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Speaker 1: he may be across this great country or this great land.

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Speaker 1: I am in solo today. Buck was in on Monday

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Speaker 1: and Tuesday. I was in yesterday and today. Tomorrow. We

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Speaker 1: will be off into the Christmas holiday season and into

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Speaker 1: the new year, and we will have Michael Barry from

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Speaker 1: our Houston affiliate, who does a fantastic job. He will

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Speaker 1: be in to bring all the latest news to you

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Speaker 1: guys from Christmas Eve into the new year, and then

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Speaker 1: Buck and I'll be back right after the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the year, so you guys are aware of what's going

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Speaker 1: on there. Buck is down soon to be down in

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Speaker 1: the Free State of Florida. I believe I will be

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Speaker 1: spending more time in Florida during the holiday season as

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Speaker 1: well as already down in Key West. I think I'll

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Speaker 1: be up on the Panhandle between Deston and Deston and

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Speaker 1: Panama City Beach. People tell me, don't talk about how

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Speaker 1: awesome it is on thirty A because it just keeps

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Speaker 1: getting more and more crowded down there, but we spend

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Speaker 1: a lot of time in Rosemary Beach and Alice Beach,

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Speaker 1: which is absolutely fantastic, easy drive for people from Nashville, Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: Birmingham used to be called the redneck Rivierira. Now I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of calling at the Hamptons of the South. People

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Speaker 1: have a little bit more money to spend than it

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Speaker 1: is pretty fantastic. I think the best beaches in the

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Speaker 1: continental United States, but don't go there. We're full and

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Speaker 1: we have got a lot to roll through today. Let

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Speaker 1: me give you a little bit of a roadmap. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna be joined by Eric Schmidt, who is the Attorney

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Speaker 1: General of Missouri and has been one of the foremost

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Speaker 1: proponents in fighting COVID regulations. Will also be joined by

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Speaker 1: Alex Barrenson his book out Pandemia. He is also now

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Speaker 1: suing Twitter after Twitter banned him for sharing inconvenient truths

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Speaker 1: surrounding COVID and the outbreak there. So we got a

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Speaker 1: bunch of different stories that I want to hit right

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Speaker 1: significant in my mind stories that exist right now. We're

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Speaker 1: also going to have a fun show because it is

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Speaker 1: Christmas Eve Eve and the final show for either Buck

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Speaker 1: buckle up, we're gonna have some fun. We'll even be

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Speaker 1: soliciting directly your calls on a variety of different topics.

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Speaker 1: But want to start here. The Supreme Court is going

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Speaker 1: to hear two different challenges to Joe Biden's attempted COVID

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Speaker 1: I believe it is significant that the Supreme Court has

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Speaker 1: agreed to hear these cases. Now, I understand that a

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Speaker 1: who are interested in particular aspects of cases. But let

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Speaker 1: me sort of give you a read of why I

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Speaker 1: think it's significant that the Supreme Court has agreed to

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Speaker 1: hear both of these cases in early January, what we

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Speaker 1: complex nature of procedural posture in courts, circuit courts on

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Speaker 1: For instance, I'm in Tennessee, I am a licensed attorney

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Speaker 1: in Tennessee. We're a part of the sixth Circuit. It

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Speaker 1: Southern Texas, Louisiana, other states are in the Fifth Circuit. Well,

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Speaker 1: the COVID vaccine mandates have made it to the circuit

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Speaker 1: court level in the Fifth Circuit, and the Fifth Circuit

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Speaker 1: ruling came out and said, we don't agree with Joe

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Speaker 1: a regulatory agency like OSHA. The Sixth Circuit, not the

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's vaccine mandate. There now not only are United

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's vaccine mandate. Now. So far, the Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: This is a significant detail that they have taken up

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Speaker 1: this case. One way to think about it is, given

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Speaker 1: continued to govern. A lot of times, when courts take

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Speaker 1: Not to mention you have a split in circuit court authority,

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Speaker 1: that that is going on, that that is significant. Also, omicron,

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Speaker 1: concerned about. It appears that omicron is more contagious, but

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Speaker 1: mutations in COVID are actually working in our favor. You

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Speaker 1: so now there's another hypothesis out there that one reason

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Speaker 1: But the data reflects that hospitalizations despite the number of

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Speaker 1: people that might be infected with omicron, and it has

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Speaker 1: rapidly become the prevalent strain in the United States. It

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Speaker 1: some positives. There are actually two really positive storylines out

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Speaker 1: there about COVID. One of them is that there now

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Speaker 1: rapidly distributed and disseminated across the United States and around

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Speaker 1: the world. Which has a substantial impact after you've already

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Speaker 1: gotten COVID in terms of helping to keep you out

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Speaker 1: of the hospital. The other one is, again data can change,

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Speaker 1: which would mean theoretically that this could be really kind

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Speaker 1: far less likely to cause significant issues for the larger population,

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Speaker 1: which is omicron spreads easier but is actually less dangerous

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, she is upset with the media coverage that

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Speaker 1: takes ten minutes. How do you do it well? You

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Speaker 1: failure as vice president has made twenty twenty four far

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Speaker 1: more interesting right now. If I were betting, I would

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Speaker 1: say that twenty twenty four is likely to be a

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump would win that election. I think there are

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Speaker 1: I think that's particularly pronounced in states like Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Arizona,

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Speaker 1: I think Trump could flip Nevada. I think he could

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Speaker 1: No matter what, and what does the larger Republican Party want?

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Speaker 1: Do we want a coronation or do we want another battle?

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Speaker 1: Remember there were seventeen or nineteen or whatever the heck

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Speaker 1: Are we going to see something somewhat similar Ronda Santis

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Speaker 1: step back, allow Trump to run again and wait for

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight. It's an interesting question. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: back in session here at the Institute's of Advanced Conservative Studies.

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Box Sexes fund EIB Network. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you

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Speaker 1: hanging out with us on Christmas Eve for what will

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Speaker 1: be the final show of the year. I'm gonna take

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Speaker 1: a couple of your calls here at one two two

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Speaker 1: two eight A two. We'll try to take some of

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Speaker 1: your calls each hour going forward to finish off. I

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Speaker 1: want to thank you as always for all the support

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Speaker 1: you guys have shown for Buck and I know twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one has been a challenging year for a lot

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Speaker 1: of people out there who it has been twenty Basically

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Speaker 1: the last eighteen months it felt like they were ten

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Speaker 1: or twelve years I know for a lot of people

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Speaker 1: based on all the things that are at stake there.

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Speaker 1: The reason, by the way, that I think the Biden

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Speaker 1: administration is going to try to run again is I

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Speaker 1: think they're terrified of Kamala Harris being the nominee in

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Speaker 1: twenty four because Trump or any other Republican I believe

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Speaker 1: would absolutely destroy her. I think Democrats know that. But

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Speaker 1: I think Democrats also know that they've painted themselves into

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Speaker 1: a corner because if Kamala Harris, the sitting vice president,

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Speaker 1: is not the nominee, as soon as there is no

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Speaker 1: longer a sitting president, then it's going to be racist

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Speaker 1: and sexist of the Democratic Party and their allies in

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Speaker 1: the media that Kamala Harris isn't the choice. So unless

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Speaker 1: they can find another minority woman who is a better

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Speaker 1: political candidate than Kamala Harris, and by the way, they

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Speaker 1: would love for that person to be Stacy Abrams. That's

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Speaker 1: why she's running in Georgia in twenty twenty two. If

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Speaker 1: she wins that Georgia governor's election, she is going to

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Speaker 1: run for president. I really think that she's going to

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Speaker 1: run for president in twenty twenty four. Of Joe Biden's

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Speaker 1: not running, and if it's Kamala Harris versus Stacy Abrams

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Speaker 1: in a battle for the nomination, Democrats have an excuse

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Speaker 1: not to pick Kamala Harris. They could go with Stacy Abrams.

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Speaker 1: Is Stacy Abrams more likable and more electable than Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. We really haven't seen Stacy Abrams on

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Speaker 1: the national stage. But that's why she's running and potentially

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Speaker 1: as governor in twenty twenty two. Even if she loses,

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Speaker 1: she may run for president because if she loses, she's

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Speaker 1: probably gonna do the same thing that she did when

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Speaker 1: she lost in twenty eighteen and say the reason why

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Speaker 1: and even though it wasn't particularly close, she's going to

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Speaker 1: say is because of voter suppression. That's the angle she

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Speaker 1: can to play now. She never conceded, and she's become

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Speaker 1: a Democratic heavyweight. That's how you can tell the hypocrisy

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Speaker 1: of this whole electoral integrity argument. Stacy Abrams is considered

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Speaker 1: a patron saint of the Democratic Party right now. She

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Speaker 1: never conceded and blamed the fact that the race was

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Speaker 1: not fair when she lost in Georgia in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: And keep in mind, Stacy Abrams lost the state of

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Speaker 1: Georgia by more votes than Donald Trump lost the presidency

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Speaker 1: by in twenty twenty. You've changed the Trump based on

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Speaker 1: the numbers. And I understand people out there can have

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Speaker 1: their own issues with the tally and the numbers and

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Speaker 1: everything else, But based on the final numbers, Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: lost the twenty twenty presidential election by around forty thousand votes.

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Speaker 1: If he had won Wisconsin lost by around twenty thousand

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Speaker 1: if he had won Arizona lost by around ten, and

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Speaker 1: if he had won Georgia lost by around ten, it

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Speaker 1: would have been a two sixty nine to two sixty

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Speaker 1: nine tie in the Electoral College, and the House of

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Speaker 1: Representatives would have voted and Trump would be your president

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Speaker 1: right now. Forty thousand votes, even with all of the

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Speaker 1: changes for COVID, even with all of the mass insanity

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Speaker 1: surrounding the way that we voted in twenty twenty, forty

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Speaker 1: thousand votes. Stacy Abrams lost the state of Georgia by

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Speaker 1: more votes than that. She never conceded, and she became

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Speaker 1: fair and that the race was rigged, and she is

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Speaker 1: That's how you know this whole push for electoral integrity

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Speaker 1: two and twenty twenty four, not because questioning the legitimacy

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Speaker 1: of an election actually undermines the democratic process, Because if

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Speaker 1: that were true, Democrats spent Donald Trump's entire presidency ripping

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Speaker 1: the legitimacy of his election in twenty sixteen and arguing

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Speaker 1: it was predicated on Russia influence and collusion. The big

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Speaker 1: lie that they told there, and they also elevated in

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Speaker 1: have been after she lost in that election cycle to

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Speaker 1: Brian Kemp in Georgia David in Minneapolis. I believe has

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Speaker 1: something that he wants to weigh in on. Let me

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Speaker 1: get at least one question in here before we finish

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Speaker 1: off the first hour. Yeah, Cley, you know you made

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Speaker 1: the comment earlier that only a cataclysmic event would prevent

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Speaker 1: the Republicans from winning back Congress. Slow everyone. The Democrats

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Speaker 1: are going to stack the court, and they think otherwise

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Speaker 1: is naive. They have to because they understand the litigation

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Speaker 1: that's going to come once the big prize, you know,

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Speaker 1: we waste a lot. You think they're going to try

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Speaker 1: to stack the court? You think Biden and the Democrats

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Speaker 1: are going to try to add Supreme Court justices. They

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Speaker 1: are because their main prize right now is this so

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Speaker 1: called Voting Rights Act. If you can push that through

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Speaker 1: it we have a stacked corrupt court. There's no coming

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Speaker 1: back from that. The republic is as we know it is. Oh,

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Speaker 1: so you're an odds guy. I want you to just

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Speaker 1: weigh in. What do you think the likelihood of that

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Speaker 1: outrageous Voting Rights Act is passed. Yeah, thanks for the call.

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Speaker 1: I think it's actually really low because I don't believe

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Speaker 1: Joe Mansion or Kursten Cinema are going to support changing

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Speaker 1: the filibuster rules which would allow that Voting Rights Act

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Speaker 1: to pass. And I also don't think that the Democrats

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Speaker 1: are going to be able to stack the Court. I

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Speaker 1: think that is incredibly low as well. Looking ahead into

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, to me, the most likely forecast, if

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Speaker 1: you were trying to contemplate what's going to happen, is

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Speaker 1: Democrats lose the House and the Senate. That then forces

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden to run the country much more as a

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Speaker 1: moderate because he doesn't control the House or the Senate anymore. Now,

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Speaker 1: does Joe Biden have the political skills that Bill Clinton

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Speaker 1: did in ninety nine four and that Barack Obama did

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Speaker 1: in twenty ten to rebuild himself into a possibility of

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Speaker 1: reelection in twenty twenty four. I don't think that he does.

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Speaker 1: I think Biden is going to be an empty suit,

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Speaker 1: and I believe that the Republicans are going to roll,

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Speaker 1: But we don't know what's gonna happen. Nobody saw COVID happening.

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Speaker 1: Without COVID, Trump wins twenty twenty and a landslide beyond

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Speaker 1: the shadow of a doubt. You're listening to, Clay Travis,

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Speaker 1: said Buck Sexton on the EIB Network.