WEBVTT - Ep 225 - Find Your "Zone of Genius" At Work

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, hey, we're black, We're brown. My blind AMBITI girl,

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<v Speaker 1>Hey man, joy, that was take two and not doing

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<v Speaker 1>take three.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh if that was take two, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear table. How odd happy happy middle of July. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>hanging in there. I'm hanging in there. We just put

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<v Speaker 2>the baby down by the hair of my chinny chinchin.

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<v Speaker 2>I got here in time. Homeboy is sleeping twelve hours

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<v Speaker 2>a night.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I could only if I could only go back to

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<v Speaker 2>little baby Mandy from four months ago and tell her

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<v Speaker 2>it was going to be okay, she would have slapped

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<v Speaker 2>me in the face and said, no, we won't. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>things have been much much better. It could not his

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<v Speaker 2>his whole turning into a regular human who sleeps long

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<v Speaker 2>stretches could not have come at a better time. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>finally feeling like I'm getting my brain back.

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<v Speaker 1>Good. Oh that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I I'm trying not to get two of

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<v Speaker 2>my feelings about it. But this whole the news about

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<v Speaker 2>Nia Rivera from Glee who passed away, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>that story. I can't That's the kind of stuff. When

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<v Speaker 2>I was like really in the throes of postpartum anxiety,

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<v Speaker 2>would I would have been like down for a whole day,

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<v Speaker 2>just just like sobbing. But oh my god. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>that four years. You know, baby in the boat.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, and he's like, Mommy went for a swim,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, what happened? Did she jump? Did she?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well they said that apparently lakes like that they are

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<v Speaker 2>really big and the wind can cause riptides or currents,

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<v Speaker 2>and so the press I did. I did watch a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of the press conference. I was kind of following

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<v Speaker 2>the news on Twitter, and they said that it seemed

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<v Speaker 2>like she used just all of her energy to get

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<v Speaker 2>her baby back in the boat, year old Josie, and

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<v Speaker 2>then she had and then she basically couldn't save herself,

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<v Speaker 2>which is just.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm like, yeah, it's here, so yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Just with your baby. So my heart goes out to

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<v Speaker 2>their family and I just want it makes me want

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<v Speaker 2>to squeeze everybody. You know. Mortality is just it is

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<v Speaker 2>just it looms. It looms, it looms, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to let yourself get to drag down

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<v Speaker 2>by it, but it does. I mean, with everything going

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<v Speaker 2>on in this world right now, it's a lot it

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<v Speaker 2>is just a lot, even for me sometimes. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>thankfully for this show, I cannot have something to look

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<v Speaker 2>forward to. Dr Dave reading these crazy headlines, Yeah, do

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<v Speaker 2>you have any good news to share?

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<v Speaker 1>What did you?

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<v Speaker 2>What did you cook for dinner? You said you cooked

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<v Speaker 2>for Superman?

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I mean it's not anything fancy, just some spaghetti.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like the way he loves it, because he

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<v Speaker 1>like he was like, hey, bab I know. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I feel so bad because when I'm always like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, girl, like the fact that he's so

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<v Speaker 1>geeked about spaghetti.

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<v Speaker 2>Is like so telling Loki sounds so comforting and delicious.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, I haven't had spaghetti, and I don't even know,

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<v Speaker 2>like bears, when's the last time I had a big

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<v Speaker 2>old bowl of spaghetti? You know? But like I did

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<v Speaker 2>you use like did you make your own sauce or

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<v Speaker 2>were you talking like prego here? Well see what I

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<v Speaker 2>do with like don't say ragu no.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I do is like, you know, like I

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<v Speaker 1>cut up fresh garlic and onion and peppers, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I will jazz up a sauce, you know, like whatever

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<v Speaker 1>he has in that. I don't even know what I

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<v Speaker 1>just poured the cannon and then like I'll you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't really eat meat, but we use ground turkey,

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<v Speaker 1>so like I'll make the ground turkey first, all these seasonings,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, I pour the sauce and then

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<v Speaker 1>he's the type of so are you manajor? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>a separate sauce noodle girl? Or are you a combined

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<v Speaker 1>spaghetti person?

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<v Speaker 2>I used to eat spaghetti like a savage, which was

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<v Speaker 2>you put the dry noodles on the plate and then

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<v Speaker 2>you PLoP the sauce on. That was me, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well that's what that's like the cartoons spaghetti that you

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<v Speaker 2>see your whole life. You grow up and then any

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<v Speaker 2>and then you get old enough for like a real

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<v Speaker 2>Italian to be like, we do not eat that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what kind of accent that was, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they mix it up and this like this like the

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<v Speaker 2>what did I read? Oh, we use way too much

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<v Speaker 2>sauce in America, Like the pasta is supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>the star box. I don't know about that. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to drown out the taste of the cart here.

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<v Speaker 1>No, because I never had it mixed. I remember the

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<v Speaker 1>first time Superman made it for me. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is this? What is this sorcery? And I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I like it, so yeah, so I mix it all together.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so it was good and I've just made

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<v Speaker 1>him like a side sound. But wee me and Supergirl

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<v Speaker 1>today for lunch, I said, what should eat for lunch?

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<v Speaker 1>She's always like, she said, I don't know what about Mexican?

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<v Speaker 1>So she had tacos and I had vegetarian burrito.

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<v Speaker 2>It was dilish, you ordered out or did you go out?

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<v Speaker 1>No? We ordered out. We don't grow where where, so no,

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<v Speaker 1>we ordered Tiffany.

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<v Speaker 2>But Tiffany, listen, It's like people are out there living

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<v Speaker 2>their lives and as if nothing is going on. And

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<v Speaker 2>I am like here in the bunker, like what what's

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<v Speaker 2>happening out there? Wire? And I see pictures, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like people eating on the sidewalk in New York. Not

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<v Speaker 2>to mention even my home, my home state of Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>and what's going on there. It just like it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like an alternate universe out there with always lives being lived.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in the open, I don't feel I mean like

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<v Speaker 1>I go out Wesson.

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<v Speaker 2>Down my Trader Joe stuff with the damn Clorox wipe.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't feel comfortable like on the I go

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<v Speaker 1>on the weekends, I will like go to my office

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<v Speaker 1>to check the mail because no one's there. And then

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes like you know, so I try to do big

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<v Speaker 1>shopping now, so I went, I go to Costcos. I

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<v Speaker 1>would say every two and a half months I've been going.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've gone like two or three times since quarantine started.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just get like a ton of everything and

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<v Speaker 1>it's honestly more than enough. And then in between things

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, veggies and fruit that you know that

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<v Speaker 1>have to be eating in a timely manner. That's just

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<v Speaker 1>like my Superman just gets that on those way home.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've been really good with Like I'm just like

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't and I hones see. The truth is

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<v Speaker 1>I always have a big outside, go outside person anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just like more more from. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>want to share something. So I feel like I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>given you guys an update on business coaching. So I

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<v Speaker 1>learned this exercise I feel like we can all do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called have you ever heard of your Zone of Excellence?

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<v Speaker 2>No, but I'm paying attention because that sounds awesome. So

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<v Speaker 2>are you talking or like no, well again, where are

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<v Speaker 2>we going with us?

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<v Speaker 1>So it can be anything. So really it's called I

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<v Speaker 1>forget what like the actual full activity it is called.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are four zones that you put an activity into.

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<v Speaker 1>So Zone one are things that you love to do

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<v Speaker 1>and you're good at them. That's one. Zone two things

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<v Speaker 1>that you like to do. No. So Zone one is

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<v Speaker 1>things that you love to do and you're great at them.

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<v Speaker 1>So you literally create like a box, love to do great.

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<v Speaker 1>Zone two like to do, you're good at it. Zone

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<v Speaker 1>three don't like to do and you're good at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Zone four don't like to do and you're bad at it.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are the business? So? But I love about

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<v Speaker 1>our business coach, it's just not him. He has a

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<v Speaker 1>whole team. So he had everyone on the team do

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<v Speaker 1>this activity and create a role scorecard, like almost like

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<v Speaker 1>a report card for the things that you do. So

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<v Speaker 1>list all of the activity that you do for the

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<v Speaker 1>company and how many minutes that you work on these

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<v Speaker 1>things and is it a one, a two, or three

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<v Speaker 1>or four. So I'm looking and I'm like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>something that I like, For example, brown ambition, I put

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<v Speaker 1>well because it's not for my other company, but still

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<v Speaker 1>I spend a lot of time so brown ambition I

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<v Speaker 1>put as a one love to do it, I'm good

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<v Speaker 1>at it. It was just so interesting to see all

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<v Speaker 1>of my activities rate it that way, like one, two, three, four?

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<v Speaker 1>Do I love to do it and I'm really great

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<v Speaker 1>at it, I'm excellent at it. Do I just like

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<v Speaker 1>to do it and I'm good at it? Am I

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<v Speaker 1>good at it? But I hate to do it? And

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<v Speaker 1>do I hate to do it and I'm bad at it?

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<v Speaker 1>And so you really don't want any threes in four

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<v Speaker 1>and if you're spending a lot of time in the

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<v Speaker 1>three and four zone, you really have to reevaluate, like

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<v Speaker 1>what's really going on here? So it was just like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, it was really powerful. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>the activity is called zone of excellence, It's called something else.

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<v Speaker 1>But zone of excellence is like where you're wanting to be,

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<v Speaker 1>which is in the one.

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<v Speaker 2>So you ideally want everything to be one or two,

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<v Speaker 2>and then what do you do with the with the

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<v Speaker 2>threes and fours? I mean, what if there's no one

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<v Speaker 2>else to do that?

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<v Speaker 1>So just well one first acknowledging, like so Zion who's

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<v Speaker 1>our coach? Is always like, you know, celebrate the acknowledgment.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh you're so zion, so like, yay, I

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate the fact I hate this thing, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I diggust the tell's that's first.

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<v Speaker 1>But then, you know, like you'd be surprised. Maybe there's

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<v Speaker 1>someone on your team that wouldn't mind sharing in that

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<v Speaker 1>responsibility because they actually have something in their three that's

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<v Speaker 1>a two for you. So or maybe it's something like

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<v Speaker 1>someone that you manage, Mandy might come to you and

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<v Speaker 1>share like, you know, I'm really great at these, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is not really something I enjoy. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because you manage everyone, you know what, Sarah on the

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<v Speaker 1>team actually loves that, do you see? Like that's why

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<v Speaker 1>the role scorecard that he gave us is something that

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<v Speaker 1>the team all did and we me as the leader

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<v Speaker 1>and CEO and my other lead team we get to

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<v Speaker 1>review to see is anyone's role or anyone's role scorecard

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<v Speaker 1>full of threes and fours because we need to adjust

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<v Speaker 1>what they do. So really it's it's their job to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of say, you know, I'm really not happy in

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<v Speaker 1>this space, but it's our job to say, what can

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<v Speaker 1>we do to adjust? You know? And yeah, so because

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<v Speaker 1>It could also be like, let's just say you're a

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<v Speaker 1>really small team. It's just like, you know, you just

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<v Speaker 1>starting your business and it's you in an intern. Well

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you have to do all the things, but you

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<v Speaker 1>might say, when I get a little money, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to hire for three or four. But do you see,

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<v Speaker 1>it just helps you to guide you with next steps,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I hate emails. I hate emails. The next person

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hiring is definitely an admin, you know, like or I.

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<v Speaker 1>So it just it's just such a great tool to

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<v Speaker 1>really understand, like are you spending your time within your

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<v Speaker 1>zone of excellence? It's Quadrat one is called zone of excellence.

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<v Speaker 1>Quadrant two is called zone of Ah dang it, I

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<v Speaker 1>had it. It's called zone of acrity. No Quajet two

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<v Speaker 1>is called zone of something something good. Quadjet three is

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<v Speaker 1>called zone of competence. Quadrat four is called zone of incompetence.

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<v Speaker 1>But I forget what Quadrit three is called. It's like excellence.

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<v Speaker 2>I have so many jokes. I'm gonnauld thement.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it was just like I said, it was

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<v Speaker 1>just a really good, like lesson an exercise. So just

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<v Speaker 1>google like zone of excellence, quadrant or whatever. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>just I think it's a really good exercise to.

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<v Speaker 2>Do one of my I feel like one of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that I enjoyed doing as a manager of people,

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<v Speaker 2>and that also kind of drives me nuts because I

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<v Speaker 2>have to. I feel like I have to do it

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<v Speaker 2>a lot is tell people how to fix their problems

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<v Speaker 2>by asking other people to help. It's it's amazing to

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<v Speaker 2>me how often someone's complaining about something that they can

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely fix by just asking for help or delegating or

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<v Speaker 2>using the undn't resources at their behest. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think sometimes you know, you have people who who

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<v Speaker 2>think if I'm not busy in killing myself, then I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not working hard enough, or my boss doesn't think I'm

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<v Speaker 2>working hard enough. But I mean, we had a meeting

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<v Speaker 2>today one of my one of my editors. He won't

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<v Speaker 2>I mean not that he listens. I don't know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he does, but he wouldn't mind. He was he was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of joking, but he was like, yeah, man, I'm like, patmos,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm almost going to pass out, just so much to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like pass out where doing what this job?

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<v Speaker 1>Editing?

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, come on, now, who's passing out? Why are

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<v Speaker 2>you feeling like you got to pass out, okay, And

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<v Speaker 2>it turns out like all of our editors set their

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<v Speaker 2>own goals right for the beginning of the month. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the number of articles we're going to produce.

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<v Speaker 2>Just I'm just super simplifying it. They literally set their

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<v Speaker 2>own goals. And then when they complained about that, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>who told you to publish ninety five things this month?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>I did? I'm like, well, and you know it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm not at that content sending, but it

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<v Speaker 2>really is. It is I leave a lot of room

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<v Speaker 2>for people to set their own goals. And I'm guilty

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<v Speaker 2>of this too, you know, creating goals for myself that

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<v Speaker 2>are on realistic, especially in this yeah realistic. And then

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<v Speaker 2>even my therapist was like, so, who was in charge

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<v Speaker 2>of what you your deadline? And I said, well me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean it's I have to walk the walk

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<v Speaker 2>and it's often me. And she's like, so, what's the

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<v Speaker 2>worst that would happen? Would you fire yourself if you

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<v Speaker 2>missed this deadline? I'm like, no, I mean I guess not.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I can change it. She's like, so, what

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<v Speaker 2>you know anyway, anyway, so I think that's great because

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<v Speaker 2>often and I also think the busyness like being busy

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<v Speaker 2>for me as a manager, I want people to be

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<v Speaker 2>spending their time busy with the things that only they

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<v Speaker 2>can do. Yes, and I don't think there's enough time

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<v Speaker 2>people spend. And that's why I love like our editorial assistant.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, we have other people on the team

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<v Speaker 2>who can be sort of like your Swiss Army knives

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<v Speaker 2>to pitch in and help out when there's tasks that

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<v Speaker 2>are important, but not it's not the only task that

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<v Speaker 2>you can do. Like there's things that I hired you

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<v Speaker 2>for because you have these skills and you're good at

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<v Speaker 2>this thing, and we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Rated so much time of things and for clarity, my bad,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're not the worst memory tool. It's zone of genius,

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<v Speaker 1>so jone of genius is.

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<v Speaker 2>Lovingly al sold on Zone of eler.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry but no. So Zone of genius is you love

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<v Speaker 1>it and you're good at Zone of excellent is you

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<v Speaker 1>like it and you're good at it. So Zone of

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<v Speaker 1>genius you love it and you're great at it. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's ideally if you can get the majority of your

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<v Speaker 1>things and your genius, it's like Mandy you are. You

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<v Speaker 1>might be like super organized, you're a great leader, you're

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<v Speaker 1>a great writer, but you're also like a critical thinker.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, the role that you're in is perfectly

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<v Speaker 1>in align with how you show up. Like for me,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why teaching is like my jam because it's my

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<v Speaker 1>zone of genius. It's like all the things that I

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<v Speaker 1>am like, you know, fun, outgoing and you know, personality

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<v Speaker 1>and so, but also wanted to share and be of service.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I teach, that is my zone of genius

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like all the things I actually enjoy are

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<v Speaker 1>matched up with the things I really really really really

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<v Speaker 1>really good at. So yeah, zone of genius one, zone

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<v Speaker 1>of excellence to zone of competence three and zone of incompetence.

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<v Speaker 2>For of course, I want to think about what am

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<v Speaker 2>I incompetent at? Power points power points. The day that

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<v Speaker 2>I realized I could delegate the creation of my power

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<v Speaker 2>points was the day that I was like, this is

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<v Speaker 2>I My life has been changed for the better. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>you are officially the most valuable employee on myself camera

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<v Speaker 2>editorial assistant because I'm never going to do a PowerPoint

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<v Speaker 2>and you were going to do them because It's like

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<v Speaker 2>I could sit here and type these words into bullet

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<v Speaker 2>points and make them pretty and add witty gifts and

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<v Speaker 2>things like that. Or I could have camera and who's

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<v Speaker 2>very good at these things do it for me and

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<v Speaker 2>then spend my time elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like for me, I say myself three hours. For me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably technology stuff. Like I remember I was like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna, you know, pull this link or I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to like, you know, create this graphic girl. Why to

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<v Speaker 1>in project management? Like I'm good at setting the intention

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, doing my part, but I project management

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<v Speaker 1>requires a level of organization that is foreign to why

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<v Speaker 1>So like I'll start off good, like we got our checkpointed,

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<v Speaker 1>our checklists, Yes a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my genius zone.

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<v Speaker 1>So for me, that's zone of incompetence where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>not only do I not like necessarily project managing at

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<v Speaker 1>least not to the nitty gritty, I'm terrible at it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like why am I leading this? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>Like why did I ask Karen? Like I just actually

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<v Speaker 1>had to talk with someone today who I was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be helping to do a project, and I promised

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<v Speaker 1>to take the lead on it. And actually had to

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<v Speaker 1>call and have a candid conversation because I did my

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<v Speaker 1>my my chart and I was like, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I promise I was going to be a lead. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not capable. I'm not capable.

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<v Speaker 2>I get this picture. What happens if someone comes to

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<v Speaker 2>you like, actually, that's not in my zone of genius,

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<v Speaker 2>so I can't talk about Sometimes is there a zone

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<v Speaker 2>for your zone of nobody? But you here available, You're

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<v Speaker 2>a warm body and you must do this to help

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<v Speaker 2>the company.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, Well, I'll say this that, like I would

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<v Speaker 1>think that what I wouldn't want. It's sometimes there are

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<v Speaker 1>moments when you have to work in zone of competence,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning it's something that you really don't care for but

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<v Speaker 1>you're good at it. But I don't ever want anyone

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<v Speaker 1>to work in zone in competence because you are literally

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<v Speaker 1>doing a bad job and the thing that you hate.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would I want anybody working in the bad job?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? Like because they have of course, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why.

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<v Speaker 2>So those some people go ahead, Some people like some people.

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<v Speaker 2>I have been at places not my current and player

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<v Speaker 2>at all, but I have been in environments in the

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<v Speaker 2>office where people really like to complain and they like

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<v Speaker 2>that little misery stew in the zone of incompetence where

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<v Speaker 2>they're not great at their job. They're also loved to

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<v Speaker 2>bitch about it, and that is kind of like their thing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just complaining and dragging everybody down, and they

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<v Speaker 2>just fester and they're in the shadows of a work

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<v Speaker 2>environment and they just bring they just the toxicity that

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<v Speaker 2>Ooz is out of those people. Ooh. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>never again, let me be. I don't want to work

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<v Speaker 2>with anybody like that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you notice that other people, like I've gotten because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fortunate in that we have free range to let

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<v Speaker 1>go folks like that because we have. We haven't hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>happened often, but we have. But yeah, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're fortunate for those types of people to leave,

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<v Speaker 1>what you learn is like after a while, you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's in leadership. You learned to spot spot the template, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I'm like, oh, I've had enough people.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I'm like, ooh that, let's pretend names that's a Brian. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna fool me. I met you three years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's not you, but it's you. You know, like

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<v Speaker 1>that type of personality and you're or you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a Sarah. Oh, Sarah's worked great here. So I've

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<v Speaker 1>learned that there are certain personalities where I can tell

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<v Speaker 1>where people sometimes will pretend they know how to do

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<v Speaker 1>a thing but don't know how to do a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's certain languages that people use. I've had people

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<v Speaker 1>who were, you know, kind of like for less lack

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<v Speaker 1>of a better word, like a suck up, and I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's great, but what about the delivery? Oh oh, so

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<v Speaker 1>you think that if we're KOUCHI that's what we say

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day. If you think that we're that

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<v Speaker 1>just means super I don't even know where me when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying this is like second grade. If you think

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<v Speaker 1>that we're coaching.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty lens, I don't know that we can say much.

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<v Speaker 2>Klay might have to beat that out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's okay, But I mean it's so crazy because

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<v Speaker 1>that's something we used to say, like as a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I'm thinking like where did that come from?

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<v Speaker 1>But as kids we would say that. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>think that you are super close to me, you think

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<v Speaker 1>that we're super cool, then you know you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to actually do your work. So I recognize that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but these are things that you learned with time, because

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know until you know. But yeah, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely don't want anyone working in zone up in competence

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<v Speaker 1>because it's literally detrimental. It's just when I tell you, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll share the next lesson for them for our next chap,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, there's another lesson that I learned that I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, honestly, when I tell you business coaching

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<v Speaker 1>has been the best money spend, I told you, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>it was expansive, and at first I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. But when I tell worth its weight in gold,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean worth this plus some. It was seventy thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars for two months, which is not a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of money. And I really vacillated back and forth, but

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<v Speaker 1>we were kind of stuck. So we're like, we really

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<v Speaker 1>want to move to the next level. We want to

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<v Speaker 1>go from just like you know, making just above seven

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<v Speaker 1>figures a month, how do we really take ourselves to

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<v Speaker 1>the next level. And there were things that were just

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that we had tried everything that we

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<v Speaker 1>knew to move past those things, and with this business coaching.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, we're moving past so many things. The

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<v Speaker 1>growth alone and it's just been a month has been amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>The team is like, oh my gosh, this is so great.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that it's not just coaching for me and

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<v Speaker 1>my co founder. It's also like, so for those who

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, not for the budgetating I don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>co founder, but from my online school. But it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just business coaching for me and him, because we get

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<v Speaker 1>individual coaching every week, but it's also coaching for the team.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just, like I said, been an amazing experience

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<v Speaker 1>and we've just grown tremendously. And I used to think, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie. I used to think business coaching

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of scammy, just because I would hear so

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<v Speaker 1>many women, especially who were taking advantage of But if

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<v Speaker 1>you find the right coach, yeah, then it could just

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<v Speaker 1>make all the difference. Like that money that we spent,

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<v Speaker 1>we're already going to make that back as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>we're done. There are things already I'm like, oh, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>make that back honestly in the first week of our

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<v Speaker 1>completion of this coaching, So that money is already money

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<v Speaker 1>in the bank. Plus money moving forward. So asking for

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<v Speaker 1>help is by.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean there are people out there who make

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<v Speaker 2>who have careers because they're so good at this type

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<v Speaker 2>of thing. And also it's it's like anything, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>personal therapy. It's about finding the right fit for you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean, I think I talked to five different

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<v Speaker 2>therapists before I settle on the one that I worked with.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I love about the idea of any sort

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<v Speaker 2>of outside third party who has knowledge of the industry

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<v Speaker 2>or knowledge of how what you're doing can be successful,

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<v Speaker 2>to look at your to look at the thing that

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<v Speaker 2>you've been staring at and you're so in the weeds

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<v Speaker 2>yourself and you can't see the forest for the trees.

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<v Speaker 2>To have a third not a third, but a yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a third party looking at it. They will always call

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<v Speaker 2>something to attention that you may not have seen yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>You just have to be in the right space for

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<v Speaker 2>it mentally to be to be open to that feedback

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<v Speaker 2>and to be open for that, you know, to be

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<v Speaker 2>open for that growth. Because you ever watched that show

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<v Speaker 2>What's It on CNBC Marcus Lamoniz what's his show? Or

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<v Speaker 2>he the profit? Yes, the profit yeah, where he goes

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<v Speaker 2>into kind of. I mean it sounds not some of

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<v Speaker 2>these businesses are like truly trash. That he'll go into

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<v Speaker 2>a struggling business, a small business, and he will identify

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<v Speaker 2>very quickly sort of what the weaknesses are. And the

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<v Speaker 2>businesses that usually succeed are the ones whose owners are willing,

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<v Speaker 2>the ones willing to listen and accept an outside view.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's the ones who aren't ready for that yet,

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<v Speaker 2>who are too stubborn, can't see their own you know, weaknesses,

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to acknowledge it. They're the ones that struggle.

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<v Speaker 2>If I were working for the budgetiesta to see that

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<v Speaker 2>you're investing in this kind of this kind of coaching,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's not just for you, but also your staff.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that sends a great message to them. It

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<v Speaker 2>sends a message that, Okay, Tiffany, even Tiffany knows that

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<v Speaker 2>she's not perfect and that we're not perfect, and she

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<v Speaker 2>wants to grow and she knows and she recognizes in

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<v Speaker 2>order to grow, we all need, you know, some outside council.

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like it'll bring all of you guys

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<v Speaker 2>closer as a team, just that you're investing in this

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<v Speaker 2>type of asset.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, bank at I can't wait to like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>da da da, I'll share some of like the major shifts,

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<v Speaker 1>like we were done around I would say in August,

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<v Speaker 1>well done, and then we have plans that we'll have

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<v Speaker 1>to do and like enact and then but I can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait to just share, like these are the major shifts

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<v Speaker 1>that were made and as a result, this is where

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<v Speaker 1>we are. So it just has me thinking differently, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's just growth, not just as a business. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>most of the growth is really as a person and

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<v Speaker 1>as a leader, like, oh, okay, these are the ways

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<v Speaker 1>I have fall these are things I'm doing really well

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<v Speaker 1>at and how to lean in you know, these are

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<v Speaker 1>the ways where you know, how could I possibly know?

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<v Speaker 1>It's still new to me, but here's where I can grow.

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<v Speaker 1>You Yeah, you start to realize that the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>brought you here oftentimes is also keeping you here, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, god it that with each level you have

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<v Speaker 1>to adjust, and so learning like what that looks like

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<v Speaker 1>and learning how to adjust way before you reach that

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<v Speaker 1>level is really like the key. So you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be like, oh so I need level ten, you know, adjustment,

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<v Speaker 1>And I might love a time right now it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you should figure that out when you're at level seven,

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<v Speaker 1>so the transition is smoother.

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<v Speaker 2>Love it. So what once these two months are up,

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<v Speaker 2>is there any kind of ongoing like once a year

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<v Speaker 2>check in that's included? I mean, do you have any

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<v Speaker 2>kind of follow up with this person?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Zion, So I'm not sure if like it's included,

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<v Speaker 1>but certainly you can continue a relationship. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>like what the cost of that is. And maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>should have said his like well whatever, I've been sayingthing

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, who knows, maybe his price is higher

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<v Speaker 1>now because I hate sometimes telling people's prices, not because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mind share prices, but just because I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>they might be like, hey, we charged one hundred thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I know the budget Lisa said that, but noupe

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<v Speaker 1>not anymore. But either way, we're here.

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<v Speaker 2>Every business is different. You have to be smart enough

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<v Speaker 2>to know, Okay, well if my business has sixty employees

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<v Speaker 2>and Tiffany has twenty, then probably the price will be different.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's true. And so yeah, so what happens is

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<v Speaker 1>like what I really like they're super organizers, like we

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<v Speaker 1>you do kind of like these pre meetings create a

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<v Speaker 1>plan which is like this is the aim for our

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<v Speaker 1>time together. This is what it's going to look like

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<v Speaker 1>week by week by week, day by day by day.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just honestly, they've done everything from looking at marketing,

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<v Speaker 1>from looking at our finances from we we we already

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<v Speaker 1>had quarterly meetings kind of, but they taught us like

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<v Speaker 1>this is what a quarterly meeting should look like. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, mind blown, Okay, it was so awesome. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I could tell the team was like, ah, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>quite honestly, we've been making it up.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, amen to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like cause I don't know. I'm just like I

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<v Speaker 1>always tell a team we're learning together to learn, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what's going to help us strategically move forward,

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<v Speaker 1>and even learning things like when we do have like

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<v Speaker 1>these kind of like teen meetings that like me and

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<v Speaker 1>my business partner should really speak last, because oftentimes when

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<v Speaker 1>leaders speak first, it sets the tone for what everyone

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<v Speaker 1>else says. And so it's like, hey, guys, you know

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<v Speaker 1>we're thinking about this new project. What do you think

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm thinking about this new project. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>should do this, this, this, and this. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>I agree?

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<v Speaker 2>Tiffany versus why are you are talking to me right now? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm just like, because you don't have more nuances

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<v Speaker 2>I can sew that person. But so am I I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I told you can give me seat. Yes, And after

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<v Speaker 2>I told you, how excited I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, isn't that great?

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<v Speaker 3>Guys? And They're like yeah, and so I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh so just even liddle things like that, I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>speaking last, it's just when I tell you, it's just been.

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<v Speaker 1>So so awesome, And I just feel like, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not even about the business as much as I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm growing as a person, Like ah, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>real leadership looks like. Not to say I wasn't leading before,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is what really creating a space for your

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<v Speaker 1>employees to grow and to live in their zone of genius.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what it really looks like to listen, because

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<v Speaker 1>I always feel like I was a good listener, but

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<v Speaker 1>not to just listen for listening's sake, but for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>And then how do you take these suggestions and put

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<v Speaker 1>them into a strategic plan of action? And it's like, oh, okay,

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 1>we've decided all these things and for the next three months.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what we're working on, and we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to bring any new thing in. And if we are

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<v Speaker 1>going to bring a new thing, we like, like a

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<v Speaker 1>new pair of shoes, you have to throw away a

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<v Speaker 1>pair of shoes to make room for this new pair.

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<v Speaker 1>So it forces you not to overstretch, because that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of our issues is that we are really excitable, like

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<v Speaker 1>the Unicorn squad, and so we'll take on too many

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<v Speaker 1>projects and it slows the whole process down. So it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>how do we prevent them. It's by having these quarterly meetings,

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<v Speaker 1>getting really clear we are, you know, we get clear

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<v Speaker 1>and then we get unclear, and so learning like how

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<v Speaker 1>not to do that into taking things into bite sized pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I said, it's been I could just tell

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<v Speaker 1>like the company, everyone is just so excited, like wow,

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<v Speaker 1>because to your point, Mandy, it's not just my business

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:18.720
<v Speaker 1>partner I get in coaching. We're all getting coaching. Everyone's

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:21.879
<v Speaker 1>getting a hand, you know, like here's your role scorecard,

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 1>this is what's next step. So everyone's like, oh wait,

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 1>we all are included in this. So yeah, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>best money ever spent, and I would spend it again

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<v Speaker 1>and again, well, you know, with a reason, but but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely the best money ever spent. I could see you

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<v Speaker 1>doing something like this like once a year or once

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<v Speaker 1>every two or three years, just to realign.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's just yeah, I think it's investing in

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<v Speaker 2>people and people. Everybody wants to grow like you. You

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:51.120
<v Speaker 2>want to grow in your in your job. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you feel like there's no opportunities for you guys to grow,

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<v Speaker 2>then that's when people start looking at other opportunities and

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<v Speaker 2>they look for another job that will get them to

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<v Speaker 2>next level. But you're keeping having the opportunity to level up,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in your words right here at the budgetess

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<v Speaker 2>to ink level up, level up? Oh man, well let's

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<v Speaker 2>level up and take a quick break and come back

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<v Speaker 2>with some questions about.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it, you know, I love me. Some questions.

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<v Speaker 2>The zone of genius, Okay, we have to get that

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<v Speaker 2>right zone of genius. What's in my zone of genius?

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<v Speaker 2>I might think about that. I'm more worried about the

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<v Speaker 2>zone of incompetent, zone of incompetence and zone of competence.

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<v Speaker 2>Do I have enough self awareness to say when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>incompetent at other than power point, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>did come back from attorney to leave and ask for

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 2>a crazy promotion. I think my my my zone of

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<v Speaker 2>incompetence is sometimes taking on No, that's what you say.

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 2>That's the same thing. I just work too hard. No,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's what you're saying. I love a challenge and

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 2>I love to like you know, That's why I said

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<v Speaker 2>I lost so many friends when I got I was

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 2>talking earlier about the Fitbit and how and like the

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<v Speaker 2>Peloton I'm getting my Peloton bike, and part of me

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<v Speaker 2>is so competitive. I just want to like, I'm already

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<v Speaker 2>thinking of all the records I'm gonna smash Amongst my friends.

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 2>You have Pelotons, like they're not gonna see me come in,

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<v Speaker 2>and how the Fitbit. Truly, I almost lost friendships, that's

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 2>how competitive I was. But I just love a challenge

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<v Speaker 2>and I just get so I get so set on

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<v Speaker 2>it and it makes me successful, but it also I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not happy at the end of the day. I'm run ragged,

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 2>you know. So Yeah, when you know what you can do, look,

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 2>I promise y'all a break, and I'm not even giving

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:37.680
<v Speaker 2>myself one.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, let's take to say. Something you can do

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 1>is just to look on your calendar and just start

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 1>writing down, like because usually I calendar all my big tasks,

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 1>so that helped me to write those down and to

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<v Speaker 1>really act myself as I was doing those tasks. How

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<v Speaker 1>did I.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel, m That's true? How do I feel?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>You gave me a lot to think about. We will

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<v Speaker 2>take a quick break and be right back with y'all questions.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're back with some questions. You guys, hit us up.

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<v Speaker 2>We're at Brandon and Mission podcast on the Gram, where

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<v Speaker 2>send us an email at brown and wait, what's your email?

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<v Speaker 1>Even this, I remembered it after ride almost five years.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I got I got it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just talking about being run ragged. I am

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 2>so I'm so tied. I've done, I'm doing too much,

0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 2>but dam it. And Lauren was right. Lauren, my therapist,

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<v Speaker 2>she was like, I don't know, Mandy, it seems like

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:04.200
<v Speaker 2>you're probably going to regret some of the things you've

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 2>said yes too lately. And I'm like, no, I feel great,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel amazing and I and honestly I lied to

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<v Speaker 2>her on her last maybe you shouldn't lie to your

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Mandy water she because I knew she was right. I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 2>My husband started going to work two days ago, two

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<v Speaker 2>days a week. Well he always works, but into the

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 2>city for two days a week, which means I'm here

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 2>with the kiddo and my full time job all day.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, it's only two days, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm talking myself out of basically getting help. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I'm doing all this stuff. I'm you know, I

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 2>felt this real call to action with the Black Lives

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<v Speaker 2>Matter movement and the George Floyd protest. I felt this

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 2>call to action. So like I said, you know, try

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 2>and evoke change. And that's that's meant stepping up, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at my company, but then also doing some stuff in

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<v Speaker 2>the community and at my at my alma mater. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's all great, but I'm not necessarily doing the best

0:31:57.000 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 2>job balancing at all. My zone of my zone of

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 2>over wars, the zone of says yes too much, I know,

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 2>the zone of over excited, project boundaries, over excited. Everything

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 2>sounds great. I love to do things and to feel productive,

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 2>but it just is so annoying that there's only twenty

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 2>four hours in the day. I just need more hours,

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 2>that's all I need.

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 1>No, you need to see you you. I thought you

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:29.160
<v Speaker 1>said you love to draw a line. You're not drawing boundaries.

0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, I know it's interesting. Maybe I should do the

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:38.720
<v Speaker 2>zone of No. I do love personal boundaries and everything

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 2>I've said, yes too, I'm excited about. But it's a

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 2>little bit. I do have a pattern, if I can

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 2>use Lauren's words from I do tend to have a

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 2>pattern of going through these like really like you know,

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 2>I always say, like freshman Mandy at the career fair

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 2>or the activities fair in college where I sign up

0:32:58.200 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 2>for like way too many things. The next thing, you know,

0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:02.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm like treasurer of that group and secretary of that group,

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 2>and I'll and I'm like, yes, I'll do that, and

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 2>it all sounds great, and I do love the things

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing, but there's if you have too you can't

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 2>be a genius if there's too much stuff in that zone,

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean.

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 1>And also too look, it's still it's still setting boundaries

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 1>because it can be a lot of great things. Because

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 1>there's so many great things that on my plate right now,

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, oh my gosh,

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 1>my gosh. But it's just not possible for me to

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 1>say yes to all those things. I have to create space,

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:32.960
<v Speaker 1>and like I have, literally for the last two or

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 1>three weeks, I've been working ten to twelve hours a day,

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 1>money through Riday.

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 2>It's like all in a row.

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Yo, It's insane, and I'm just like poor Superman.

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Working all in a row.

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's like, I mean, that's why I make me

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 1>making spaghetti today. He was like spaghetti. Oh my gosh.

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Because I'm like, we're like two ships passing in the

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:57.640
<v Speaker 1>night and I'm like, now, So even though the things

0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 1>are exciting and they're they're amazing things, to what end.

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 1>That's what I've been asking myself, Like these things are great,

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 1>to what end? I have to prioritize, Like you reach

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:14.760
<v Speaker 1>a certain level because you're at that level where because

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 1>you put in such amazing work, you are going to

0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>be reaping amazing things. Like you've sown apple seeds. Girl,

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:24.240
<v Speaker 1>you're picking apples. So you're like, oh my god, an apple,

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, the apple. It's like maybe they're all

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:28.920
<v Speaker 1>apples at this point. They are all apples. So what

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 1>are you gonna do? You know what I mean, like,

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.840
<v Speaker 1>you can't pick every single apple, eat every single apple.

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:37.319
<v Speaker 1>And so I realized, like, oh, oh, Tiffany, you are

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 1>literally reaping what you've sown, and you've sown good things,

0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 1>so you're gonna pick good things. But you don't have

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 1>to pick everything just because it's ready for harvest, because

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>it's not possible to have all the things. You know,

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:51.360
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to decide today. You know, I'm not

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna have apple today. And it's okay, you know, because

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 1>if not, you know, if I was twenty one with

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 1>no you know, no husband, no fai family, I mean,

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, aside from like my sisters and my parents,

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:05.919
<v Speaker 1>then yeah, you can go hard, like twenty four hours

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:07.919
<v Speaker 1>a day if you want. But I don't even want

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 1>that now that that's just the truth. I don't. I

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 1>want time down, like I want, you know, my niece

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:15.600
<v Speaker 1>and my nephew to come over and tear apart my house,

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, eat up all my cookies. I see you, Roman,

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I see you.

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:20.840
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:23.920
<v Speaker 1>So it's just like learning. I'm still learning how to

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 1>say you know, no, I've gotten better actually told my

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:28.839
<v Speaker 1>mom know you I know, there's like questions, but it's

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:30.839
<v Speaker 1>almost like we're questioning ourselves. I told my mom, no,

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:33.799
<v Speaker 1>she wanted me to do, not in a bad way,

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 1>but she wanted me to do like a something for

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:39.400
<v Speaker 1>like a group of her of a professional group of her,

0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:41.440
<v Speaker 1>her professional group that she's a part of. And they

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:43.359
<v Speaker 1>wanted me to do like a keynote. And honestly, maybe

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:46.839
<v Speaker 1>I am exhausted, exhausted. And I looked on my on

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:50.759
<v Speaker 1>my my my role report card, my role card, to

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 1>see like how did I feel about these types of

0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 1>like engagements, And I put them at like a three,

0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:00.279
<v Speaker 1>sometimes a two, but mostly a three, meaning that I'm

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:02.480
<v Speaker 1>really good at them, but I really don't enjoy them anymore.

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 1>And I was like so And then I also learned

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:08.440
<v Speaker 1>from Zion, so many times I say yes because I'm

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 1>afraid of what people will think about me. And so

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I said, this is a time to tell your mom.

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I was like, honestly, Mommy, I'm just so so overwhelmed.

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:20.759
<v Speaker 1>I can't and so normally my fears my mom's going

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:22.840
<v Speaker 1>to be disappointed with me and how selfish of me.

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 1>And she's like, yeah, I figure it because my baby's

0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 1>doing big things. And I was like, oh, but so

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 1>you know the fear of my mom is going to

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 1>be so disappointed. I'm such a bad, selfish child. That's

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:34.319
<v Speaker 1>what I would have told myself two or three weeks ago.

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:36.720
<v Speaker 1>But I told her and she took it like yeah,

0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:39.239
<v Speaker 1>I figured that it was just extra proud of me,

0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:42.879
<v Speaker 1>and like I was like, oh, that's what happens when

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:45.399
<v Speaker 1>you said a boundary. The people who care about you

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 1>don't give you a hard time about it. And so

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 1>it was just like a like, you know, cause I

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:52.319
<v Speaker 1>would never like what tell my mom. Know, I'd be like, oh,

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I'll do all ten of them. But I'm exhausted, you know,

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:58.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm tired. I have to say no. Like I said,

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:00.320
<v Speaker 1>it's good things, but I'm just like I'm going to

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 1>be drowning in the sea of goodness if I continue

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 1>like this. Like when I tell you, remember two weeks ago, Mandy,

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 1>I told you like I threw out my back, Like like,

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 1>so I threw out my back one out. I was like,

0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:10.920
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, Oh my god, my god, cause I'm

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 1>sitting so much. My level eight and a half out

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:17.759
<v Speaker 1>of ten back muscles just gone. Then finally get my

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 1>back together after going to the doctor. My the left side,

0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:21.799
<v Speaker 1>my neck. I was like, oh, my neck. I threw

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 1>on my neck so much so I had to cancel everything.

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm just laying in the bed like my neck, my neck.

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Go to the doctor, she gives me medicine. Finally get

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:30.920
<v Speaker 1>my my neck together. Now it's the other side of

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:33.920
<v Speaker 1>my neck and shoulder, Mandy. My body is like, girl,

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 1>you've been to die up. That's what we're doing. So

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, to what end? Because my body is

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 1>obviously telling me, Tiffany, I know these all these amazing things.

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I know this interview and that into your New York

0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Times and Well Street, I know, and then this and

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:50.360
<v Speaker 1>that you can't do all the things. Your body is

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 1>literally physically trying to slow you down. And so I'm

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 1>speaking to y'all and anybody else who might be listening

0:37:57.120 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>that like, because it's in a weird place. I've worked

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:02.839
<v Speaker 1>so hard for so long to reap all of these

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:04.680
<v Speaker 1>things in they're here now, and I don't know how

0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:07.720
<v Speaker 1>to say no, but I want to reap those things.

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:10.520
<v Speaker 2>And it's like a girl, you're gonna I mean, you

0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:12.919
<v Speaker 2>can't even make this Hamilton reference because you haven't watched

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:13.279
<v Speaker 2>it yet.

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:16.080
<v Speaker 1>I know, when do I get time to watch Hamilton.

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 2>They have the same note. Listen, if you you make

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:23.120
<v Speaker 2>time for what's important to you. Okay, I threw my

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 2>back out to doing a five hundred piece puzzle. This

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 2>is the thing. I can't just do it over the court.

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm gonna get this puzzle. I'll just do,

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, thirty minutes a day. I get obsessed and

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 2>bending over this dam coffee here for four hours, going

0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 2>to bed at one am. You're so competitive, I know

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:42.320
<v Speaker 2>with myself, I am my own worst.

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:43.920
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think it's a worse ede of me,

0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:47.400
<v Speaker 1>but it's hilarious that, like, no, you are literally legitimately

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:49.759
<v Speaker 1>competitive to the point where you are literally competing against Mandy.

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh, Mandie, you thought this puzzle was gonna

0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:53.120
<v Speaker 1>be Oh no, not today, Mandy, yesterday.

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:55.160
<v Speaker 2>It feels so good to win. And then you know what,

0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 2>there was a single piece missing and I wanted to cry,

0:38:57.520 --> 0:38:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness. At the very end, I think some

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:03.400
<v Speaker 2>look back, you were the dog agent. Yeah, honestly, why

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:05.440
<v Speaker 2>am I paying a therapist? I know what the issue is.

0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:08.000
<v Speaker 2>She's gonna ask me, Mandy, why who told you to

0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:11.759
<v Speaker 2>do all these things? I'm gonna be like me. All right,

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:18.600
<v Speaker 2>let's get to some other process, all right. This question

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 2>hit home with me because, as you guys know if

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:24.880
<v Speaker 2>you're longtime listeners of the show, I once, actually twice,

0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 2>we moved in with my husband's parents for very at

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 2>different stages in our relationship. We live with them for

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:33.600
<v Speaker 2>a hot minute, so this question hit hit home for me.

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:36.640
<v Speaker 2>This comes from listener Alex. Alex says, my husband and

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:38.880
<v Speaker 2>I have made the decision to move in with his parents.

0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:41.279
<v Speaker 2>My husband works as a flight attendant for a well

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 2>known airline, but due to COVID, our monthly income has decreased.

0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Since he's no longer working, there's a possibility he may

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:50.319
<v Speaker 2>even lose his job in October. I've been paying our

0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 2>rent and a portion of our bills while he takes

0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:55.160
<v Speaker 2>care of student loans, which have been put on pause thankfully,

0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 2>and our utilities. We made the decision to move back

0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 2>in with this with our in laws because I can

0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:02.880
<v Speaker 2>no longer continue to pay rent as rent and our

0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 2>current complex has increased and is taking up an entire

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:09.879
<v Speaker 2>paycheck for me. A few unforeseen life circumstances have also

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 2>left our emergency fund depleted. I'm hoping that by moving

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 2>in with his parents, will be able to rebuild our

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:18.880
<v Speaker 2>emergency fund and get our finances back in order. Do

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:21.360
<v Speaker 2>you guys think it's weird to move back in with

0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:23.840
<v Speaker 2>my husband's parents. What would you guys do if you

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 2>were in our positions? We're twenty five and twenty six

0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 2>years old and we've been married for just a little

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:34.320
<v Speaker 2>over a year. For her, guess it lived with your parents,

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:39.799
<v Speaker 2>your husband's parents. But yeah, it's weird. It's not weird

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:42.840
<v Speaker 2>at all. It's you know what, at least you have someone.

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 2>I bet you so many people would love to like

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.680
<v Speaker 2>what you know, save on rent, just move back home.

0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 2>At least you guys have the option.

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know at forty girl, the it'sh hits the bad.

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:57.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm calling mommy daddy. So that's bed bedroom, Like I

0:40:57.760 --> 0:40:59.240
<v Speaker 1>thought she was gonna say, out their mortgage.

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I feel like they could at least give you a spot.

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 1>But you know, like except what I understand, because you know,

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:07.239
<v Speaker 1>there's like this shame about like oh am I moving backwards?

0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:11.120
<v Speaker 1>And is it like adult? No, Like being an adult

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:14.000
<v Speaker 1>is asking for help when needed. So if you are

0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:16.960
<v Speaker 1>have the privilege enough, because like Mandy, like you said,

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 1>everyone doesn't have that ability. If you you know, sometimes

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 1>people parents don't live close enough. Sometimes people's parents are struggling.

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes people they're not speaking to their parents, or their

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:28.319
<v Speaker 1>parents can't take care of them their own finances. So

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 1>if you have that ability, then that is a blessing

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:33.839
<v Speaker 1>and blessing I'm blessing. And yeah, I don't whether you're

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:35.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty five, just know this. If you need to move

0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 1>back home at thirty thirty five, forty fifty, if you

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:40.440
<v Speaker 1>need help, that's what it's there for. I just so

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:43.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, I moved back home and look where I

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 1>am now. I moved back home with my parents at

0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:49.080
<v Speaker 1>age thirty and now two years ago I was able

0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:51.920
<v Speaker 1>to pay off their house. So how full circle in

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:54.759
<v Speaker 1>getting myself together, I was then able to then give

0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 1>back to them. So yeah, don't be ashamed of that.

0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Do what you need to do to get where you

0:41:58.840 --> 0:41:59.440
<v Speaker 1>need to get to.

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and for me, the dynamic here is similar to

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:05.320
<v Speaker 2>what happened with us. I was we must have been

0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:07.439
<v Speaker 2>I must have been twenty six twenty seven. We moved

0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:10.480
<v Speaker 2>in with my husband's parents before we got married because

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 2>I had this wild idea that I wanted to live

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:14.840
<v Speaker 2>rent free so that we could save up for the wedding,

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:16.319
<v Speaker 2>because I did not want to take on debt for

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:18.440
<v Speaker 2>the wedding, and it was a number of things. You know,

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:21.200
<v Speaker 2>rent in our neighborhood was getting really expensive. This was

0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 2>a few years ago. I maan, I guess, like four

0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:25.520
<v Speaker 2>or five years ago. We're living in Queen's and I

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 2>also wanted to save for a house, and I just

0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:28.880
<v Speaker 2>knew I wasn't going to get there spending you know,

0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:31.160
<v Speaker 2>twenty one hundred dollars a month in our rent. So

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 2>for me, it was an opportunity to save money. And

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:36.799
<v Speaker 2>we did save money, and that was beautiful. The toll

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 2>it took on me mentally and psychologically living with my

0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 2>in laws, you know, that was a price that I

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 2>had to pay, and unfortunately, you know, that kind of

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:48.600
<v Speaker 2>drove me out. I don't think we ever made it

0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 2>more than what did we maybe spend like seven eight

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:53.799
<v Speaker 2>months the first stint and our second time moving back

0:42:53.840 --> 0:42:56.000
<v Speaker 2>in with them was and bless them for even allowing

0:42:56.080 --> 0:42:58.440
<v Speaker 2>us to This is the thing. You're so grateful, and

0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:00.640
<v Speaker 2>then you feel so guilty for being so ine, you

0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:02.279
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, Like when someone wants to know

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 2>where you're at and I'm like, I missed the days

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 2>when no one knew or cared where I was because

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:09.719
<v Speaker 2>they didn't see me coming home. The second time, we

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:12.200
<v Speaker 2>were doing the renovation for our house and so we

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 2>wanted to again save money by not paying for an

0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:17.719
<v Speaker 2>apartment while we were renovating the house. So they graciously

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:20.919
<v Speaker 2>led us into their home each and every time. It's

0:43:20.960 --> 0:43:22.840
<v Speaker 2>not weird at all. It was what we needed to

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:25.080
<v Speaker 2>do so we wouldn't have to taken a lot of debt.

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:27.799
<v Speaker 2>And I hope that you guys, I mean the fact

0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 2>that you had an emergency fund have so I have

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:32.719
<v Speaker 2>lots of faith in you guys that you will get

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:35.680
<v Speaker 2>back on your feet. It sounds like you're already great

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:38.279
<v Speaker 2>as a couple financially. You just you've done everything right.

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:40.880
<v Speaker 2>It just sounds like so many people out there the

0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:42.400
<v Speaker 2>world's just kind of knocked you on your butts a

0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 2>little bit with what's going on right now. I'm glad

0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:47.399
<v Speaker 2>that you have a soft place to land. I would

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 2>take full full advantage of it and don't feel bad

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:51.040
<v Speaker 2>at all at all.

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I like that a soft place to land.

0:43:55.280 --> 0:44:00.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and your mommy in law's arms love it. She

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:03.040
<v Speaker 2>squeezes really really hard anymore.

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:08.959
<v Speaker 1>It's yo, I don't think y'all have Let's take a book.

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:11.840
<v Speaker 1>We need a Mandy appreciation moment. I don't think you

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:14.960
<v Speaker 1>guys understand how well. Maybe you understand, but I don't

0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:17.000
<v Speaker 1>think I can stand how funny Mandy is like, because

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:19.240
<v Speaker 1>I feel like people think like I'm the silly one. Yeah,

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe got me beat honey, Okay, she is hilarry. Us.

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:26.080
<v Speaker 1>We have to do ig Live again because people don't

0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:28.680
<v Speaker 1>get to feel get the full scope of your delightful

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:31.440
<v Speaker 1>personality sometimes because you know, we're answering financial questions and

0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:33.680
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about our lives and stuff. But now when

0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:37.680
<v Speaker 1>you catch Mandy on alive, what the singers and the slingers,

0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:41.360
<v Speaker 1>you are hilarious. My sister was like, yo, Mandy is funny.

0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:42.239
<v Speaker 1>It sound like I know.

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:47.640
<v Speaker 2>So it's when you have dealt with so much stress,

0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:49.120
<v Speaker 2>laughter is the only cure.

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:49.959
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 2>My mom taught me that, bless her. Yeah, humor is

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:55.120
<v Speaker 2>if you're not last. I mean, the only thing you

0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:56.719
<v Speaker 2>can do now is laugh. That's how I got through

0:44:56.719 --> 0:44:59.000
<v Speaker 2>every challenge in my entire life was finding a joke.

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Now that's in my own detriment. Sometimes sometimes it's not

0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 2>You're not trying to get a laugh right now, Mandy,

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:06.319
<v Speaker 2>things are really just not it's not the moment for that.

0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:08.719
<v Speaker 2>I had to talk to myself. But I just love

0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:11.280
<v Speaker 2>anytime we can giggle, and that's why it's great talking

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:13.399
<v Speaker 2>to you, Tiff. But most of the time I'm trying

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:15.680
<v Speaker 2>to keep you in lines. I can't be funny, I

0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:21.319
<v Speaker 2>be likectivity. Really, I would love to do a live

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:23.839
<v Speaker 2>I've really held. I don't know something as I think

0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:26.000
<v Speaker 2>it's just the raggedness. I just haven't been on social.

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:28.760
<v Speaker 2>I was really on social for you know, really loving

0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:31.200
<v Speaker 2>connecting to our audience on social, and I haven't really

0:45:31.239 --> 0:45:34.759
<v Speaker 2>been there lately, and I guess it's just I just feel, Yeah,

0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:37.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm feeling a little like I don't have

0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 2>anything to say and I don't really want to be

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:41.400
<v Speaker 2>out there like that. I'm going through a bit. I

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:43.279
<v Speaker 2>think I just need my peloton. I think I just

0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 2>need to crush crush some friendships and win some peloton

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 2>races and maybe that'll bring me back.

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Well, you let me know. You know, they would love

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:52.279
<v Speaker 1>to see you on my social We can because they

0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:54.360
<v Speaker 1>love like you know, Mandy, they love you and so like,

0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:56.120
<v Speaker 1>and when we get together, they're like, oh you guys,

0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:58.399
<v Speaker 1>are you guys are really liked this. I'm like, oh yeah,

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:00.520
<v Speaker 1>even worse, like we know to do for the show.

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:03.279
<v Speaker 2>I'll wait for you to invite me. I will not

0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:06.880
<v Speaker 2>just crash your ig live with my nonsense.

0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:09.479
<v Speaker 1>I know her, I know her. It's okay.

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Let me and all right, let's take thanks Tiff though,

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:17.399
<v Speaker 2>thanks for the love. Let's take Let's take another question.

0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:19.520
<v Speaker 2>How about this. We had a couple like this. I'm

0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:22.239
<v Speaker 2>gonna they're both anonymous, so I can kind of mash

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:25.480
<v Speaker 2>them together. But they're both working at companies that they

0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:29.960
<v Speaker 2>don't feel are being super supportive in this time of

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 2>unrest in the country. All already, she says, I'd love

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 2>to hear your advice, but keep me anonymous. I recently

0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:39.680
<v Speaker 2>graduated from college and accepted a job at a company.

0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:42.400
<v Speaker 2>This was a miracle from God in itself, considering the

0:46:42.400 --> 0:46:45.200
<v Speaker 2>current state of the economy. What's more, I actually like

0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:47.480
<v Speaker 2>the role, and the pay is great, but I have

0:46:47.560 --> 0:46:51.040
<v Speaker 2>serious concerns about the company's values. The company so far

0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:53.400
<v Speaker 2>has not done or said anything in response to this

0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:56.960
<v Speaker 2>moment in the BLM movement. I know because I've monitored

0:46:56.960 --> 0:46:59.560
<v Speaker 2>their social media and talked to a manager. It also

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:01.879
<v Speaker 2>seems like the diversity in the company is very low.

0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:04.759
<v Speaker 2>As you can imagine, this is upsetting. They're going through

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:07.560
<v Speaker 2>a bankruptcy crisis. But still, the least they could do

0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:10.920
<v Speaker 2>is acknowledge that their black employees and customers' lives matter.

0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:13.719
<v Speaker 2>Is this company worth my time? It might be an

0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:17.000
<v Speaker 2>opportunity to change things from the inside. And in addition,

0:47:17.120 --> 0:47:19.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't have any other job opportunities at the moment.

0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:24.240
<v Speaker 2>What do you guys think? So she's considering this job offer,

0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:26.799
<v Speaker 2>but she's not sure she's a take it based on

0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 2>what she's seeing the company, based on what she's said

0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:32.879
<v Speaker 2>she's seen and heard so far about the company's lack

0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:37.040
<v Speaker 2>of response to the Black Lives Matter movement. We were

0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:41.759
<v Speaker 2>just talking about this. It's tough because if you, I mean,

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:44.880
<v Speaker 2>you need a job, I don't think I can. I

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:46.960
<v Speaker 2>don't think I could tell anybody in good conscience don't

0:47:46.960 --> 0:47:53.120
<v Speaker 2>take a job. I mean like generational well, like we

0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:54.920
<v Speaker 2>need to get out of this like trap. We need

0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:57.759
<v Speaker 2>to start building generational well And unfortunately for now, you

0:47:57.800 --> 0:48:00.440
<v Speaker 2>need to take a job. Maybe we're the company's values

0:48:00.520 --> 0:48:02.959
<v Speaker 2>are not in line with where you with with where

0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:06.359
<v Speaker 2>you are right now. I think you're I think when

0:48:06.400 --> 0:48:09.160
<v Speaker 2>you say it might be an opportunity to change things

0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:12.880
<v Speaker 2>from the inside. Absolutely. I think when you're new to

0:48:12.920 --> 0:48:15.319
<v Speaker 2>a company, you can even help them see if they're

0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:17.480
<v Speaker 2>being a little tone deaf by sharing you know, your

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:19.600
<v Speaker 2>view on things, and maybe you can make an impact

0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:21.520
<v Speaker 2>and make things better for the next person who comes

0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:26.160
<v Speaker 2>behind you. Yeah, if this is your only job, is

0:48:26.160 --> 0:48:29.799
<v Speaker 2>I take it and I hope, I hope that they

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:33.200
<v Speaker 2>heed your advice and heed your feedback. If they don't,

0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:36.840
<v Speaker 2>hopefully you can move on again when another opportunity presents

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:40.160
<v Speaker 2>itself and let them know when you leave why you're leaving,

0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:42.840
<v Speaker 2>and if you know, they can take it or leave it.

0:48:42.880 --> 0:48:45.160
<v Speaker 2>But at that point you have done what you can

0:48:45.200 --> 0:48:46.279
<v Speaker 2>and then you've got to keep it moving.

0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I say that too, Like at the end of

0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:51.359
<v Speaker 1>the day, pay your bills. Like if you said, I

0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:54.759
<v Speaker 1>have an opportunity to work for one company or this

0:48:54.880 --> 0:48:58.600
<v Speaker 1>other company and the difference in pay is five thousand dollars,

0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:02.040
<v Speaker 1>but it's not MINEU Like I you know, I'm someone

0:49:02.080 --> 0:49:03.520
<v Speaker 1>who would still be able to pay bills and things

0:49:03.560 --> 0:49:06.360
<v Speaker 1>like that, But this company is super in alignment and

0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:09.560
<v Speaker 1>this company isn't. Then that's different. That's like, Okay, we

0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:11.319
<v Speaker 1>might meet, you know, Mandy, and I might be like, well,

0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:12.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, five thousand dollars is not a little bit

0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:15.640
<v Speaker 1>of money, but for your sanity, you know, I might

0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:18.880
<v Speaker 1>go for the socially conscious company that pays five thousand

0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:21.400
<v Speaker 1>dollars less, knowing that could still pay my bills and

0:49:21.440 --> 0:49:25.720
<v Speaker 1>save and things. Gotcha. But you're saying, take this job

0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:30.040
<v Speaker 1>or what pay your bills is pay your bills, do

0:49:30.160 --> 0:49:34.440
<v Speaker 1>your job, you know, definitely, you know, you know, do

0:49:34.520 --> 0:49:37.880
<v Speaker 1>what you can to maybe help, you know, exert some

0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:41.880
<v Speaker 1>influence over company culture, and then put yourself in a

0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:44.800
<v Speaker 1>position where you can find a company that's in alignment

0:49:44.840 --> 0:49:47.719
<v Speaker 1>if this one does not end up being so. But yeah,

0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I would never ever, ever ever suggest someone to choose,

0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:54.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, like, and I get it, because I'm like,

0:49:54.200 --> 0:49:56.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, we want to be in alignment. But everything

0:49:56.960 --> 0:49:59.279
<v Speaker 1>I've always done has not always been in alignment. But

0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:02.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, I put the work in so I can

0:50:02.840 --> 0:50:05.440
<v Speaker 1>make those choices. So now here I am and I

0:50:05.480 --> 0:50:07.600
<v Speaker 1>can make the choice of being in alignment. But I

0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:10.040
<v Speaker 1>couldn't always make those choices. Earlier on in my career.

0:50:10.760 --> 0:50:12.919
<v Speaker 1>We're now with that guy at a new space, so yeah,

0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:13.920
<v Speaker 1>pay your bills.

0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:16.799
<v Speaker 2>This What do you think about her giving feedback to

0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:19.439
<v Speaker 2>the recruiter she's talking to or the hiring manager now

0:50:19.560 --> 0:50:22.360
<v Speaker 2>that you know, I'm really excited about this opportunity, but

0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:24.720
<v Speaker 2>the lack of you know, if this is a company

0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:26.440
<v Speaker 2>that you think it would be in alignment with what

0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:28.680
<v Speaker 2>they stand for for them to speak out now, Like,

0:50:29.840 --> 0:50:32.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how I feel about companies who I

0:50:32.520 --> 0:50:36.040
<v Speaker 2>don't know, like they raise chickens, if they need to

0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:38.839
<v Speaker 2>like speak about BLM some of it just if it's

0:50:38.880 --> 0:50:40.839
<v Speaker 2>not really on brand or we're in line with what

0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:43.680
<v Speaker 2>you're doing. Sometimes I think, you know, companies can be

0:50:43.760 --> 0:50:46.920
<v Speaker 2>seen as opportunistic by speaking out, and you may you

0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:48.719
<v Speaker 2>may want to hear why they have it. Maybe they've

0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:50.560
<v Speaker 2>thought about it, or they're doing something else, or they've

0:50:50.560 --> 0:50:53.120
<v Speaker 2>decided that they can make a donation and they have

0:50:53.160 --> 0:50:56.200
<v Speaker 2>an impact that way. I don't know, but I can.

0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:57.760
<v Speaker 2>On the on the other hand, I can hear myself

0:50:57.800 --> 0:50:59.520
<v Speaker 2>saying this, and I'm kind of like, as a new

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:02.759
<v Speaker 2>person and company, do you even feel like can you

0:51:02.800 --> 0:51:05.799
<v Speaker 2>just come in, like you know, hot already with like

0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:08.239
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of I don't know, a bunch of questions.

0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:11.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I honestly don't think that's necessarily wise. Like

0:51:12.560 --> 0:51:14.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm just taking like, say it there was. Okay, let's

0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:16.840
<v Speaker 1>just say I'm thinking about somebody new coming into my

0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:19.359
<v Speaker 1>company and we have a policy. I don't know, maybe

0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:20.840
<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh, I don't want to work, you know,

0:51:21.480 --> 0:51:23.439
<v Speaker 1>nights or whatever not that we have people work nights.

0:51:23.440 --> 0:51:26.719
<v Speaker 1>But let's just say, and it's literally like in the

0:51:26.840 --> 0:51:29.480
<v Speaker 1>interview about to get you know, hired, and it's like,

0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:31.680
<v Speaker 1>I think we should change the policy about sometimes we

0:51:31.760 --> 0:51:36.759
<v Speaker 1>work nights. I honestly am gonna be like, Hi, my

0:51:36.840 --> 0:51:40.279
<v Speaker 1>name is Tiffany. Okay, you know what I mean. Like

0:51:41.080 --> 0:51:44.880
<v Speaker 1>it seems like because people are.

0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:47.040
<v Speaker 2>More acts, unless you're getting hired to work in HR,

0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:50.439
<v Speaker 2>in which case maybe it's applicable to your job. But yeah, yeah,

0:51:50.440 --> 0:51:51.160
<v Speaker 2>I see what you're saying.

0:51:51.360 --> 0:51:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So just being mindful, like, you know, get a

0:51:53.480 --> 0:51:56.439
<v Speaker 1>good foot in the door, do like, you know, show

0:51:56.520 --> 0:51:59.480
<v Speaker 1>that you are a valuable member of the team. And

0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:01.920
<v Speaker 1>then you know, as you continue to look if you

0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:04.400
<v Speaker 1>really just don't feel in alignment, and then when that

0:52:04.440 --> 0:52:06.080
<v Speaker 1>happens and you're able to. It doesn't mean you don't

0:52:06.080 --> 0:52:08.319
<v Speaker 1>say anything, but I would just be cost yourself. You

0:52:08.560 --> 0:52:10.200
<v Speaker 1>just started, you know, so.

0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you want your work to speak first. And unfortunately,

0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:18.120
<v Speaker 2>I do think there is a tax that you can

0:52:18.200 --> 0:52:21.680
<v Speaker 2>be charged when you're a black or brown employee and

0:52:21.760 --> 0:52:24.120
<v Speaker 2>you bring up race if you're not really sure of

0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:26.520
<v Speaker 2>the company's culture yet and you haven't felt like it's

0:52:26.560 --> 0:52:28.960
<v Speaker 2>a safe space for you to speak out. And I

0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:32.840
<v Speaker 2>don't want you to be penalized for Yeah, there is

0:52:32.880 --> 0:52:35.120
<v Speaker 2>a penalty I think that can come if you speak

0:52:35.160 --> 0:52:38.799
<v Speaker 2>out about social justice issues in the workplace before you

0:52:39.040 --> 0:52:41.279
<v Speaker 2>make sure that it's a safe space for you. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why I for so long, you know, at companies, I

0:52:43.200 --> 0:52:45.000
<v Speaker 2>just didn't talk about it because it didn't seem like

0:52:45.040 --> 0:52:46.759
<v Speaker 2>it was a safe space. No one else was doing it,

0:52:47.280 --> 0:52:49.200
<v Speaker 2>and for my own survival, you know, I wouldn't speak

0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:52.800
<v Speaker 2>out about that kind of thing. So, yeah, it's tough.

0:52:53.239 --> 0:52:53.759
<v Speaker 1>Take the job.

0:52:53.800 --> 0:52:57.200
<v Speaker 2>I would say, benefit of the doubt. Try and try,

0:52:57.239 --> 0:52:59.920
<v Speaker 2>and you know, let your work speak for itself. And

0:53:00.040 --> 0:53:02.799
<v Speaker 2>then as you start to feel more comfortable, you know,

0:53:02.840 --> 0:53:05.440
<v Speaker 2>you can start raising those questions or start asking, you know,

0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:07.839
<v Speaker 2>asking maybe why they've chose not to, and maybe you'll

0:53:07.880 --> 0:53:13.399
<v Speaker 2>learn something about about why they've chosen not to speak out. Yeah,

0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:15.680
<v Speaker 2>interesting question. I wanted to follow this question up with

0:53:15.719 --> 0:53:18.360
<v Speaker 2>someone else. So this person we were just talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>she is in the she's job hunting, so she's looking

0:53:21.600 --> 0:53:23.640
<v Speaker 2>at a job she hasn't worked for yet. This is

0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:26.799
<v Speaker 2>another question from someone who's you know, long story short.

0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:30.279
<v Speaker 2>She's working at a company wants to wants to remain anonymous,

0:53:30.520 --> 0:53:34.080
<v Speaker 2>says the company's predominantly white and there's no person, no

0:53:34.160 --> 0:53:37.840
<v Speaker 2>people of color past a certain position. It's been disheartening

0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:40.520
<v Speaker 2>to her, and last week they sent an email about

0:53:41.000 --> 0:53:45.400
<v Speaker 2>being mindful of quote certain conversations unquote because not everyone

0:53:45.400 --> 0:53:47.800
<v Speaker 2>feels the same way you do. She's wondering what should

0:53:47.800 --> 0:53:49.440
<v Speaker 2>I do. I plan on going back to school to

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<v Speaker 2>get my masters and leaving this industry altogether. But this

0:53:53.400 --> 0:53:57.280
<v Speaker 2>has been pretty demoralizing that her company has done absolutely nothing,

0:53:57.320 --> 0:54:00.600
<v Speaker 2>she says, to show support to the b LM movement.

0:54:01.719 --> 0:54:03.440
<v Speaker 2>So what can you do if you're in a company

0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:06.080
<v Speaker 2>now you've already worked, there is now the time to

0:54:06.080 --> 0:54:08.799
<v Speaker 2>speak up? Or should you just I have a friend,

0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:11.080
<v Speaker 2>for example, who's decided she's just gonna quit. She doesn't

0:54:11.080 --> 0:54:14.960
<v Speaker 2>care to help them be better. She's just like, I'm

0:54:15.000 --> 0:54:16.919
<v Speaker 2>tired of this. I just want to get out of here.

0:54:17.640 --> 0:54:18.799
<v Speaker 2>I am. I think that's fair.

0:54:18.880 --> 0:54:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I if I if from leadership that came out,

0:54:23.120 --> 0:54:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I would be looking for another job. Like I'd be like, okay,

0:54:26.840 --> 0:54:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I might. I might say something like, you know, that

0:54:28.800 --> 0:54:30.560
<v Speaker 1>was really hard, you know, a little hurtful, and just

0:54:30.600 --> 0:54:33.920
<v Speaker 1>to see, you know, a little test of water. But ultimately,

0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:36.799
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like leadership has decided it's one thing for

0:54:36.800 --> 0:54:40.160
<v Speaker 1>a company to be completely silent. That's not silence. They

0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:43.040
<v Speaker 1>actively made a choice to say we don't want to

0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:45.080
<v Speaker 1>hear about your black lives matter. That's what that That's

0:54:45.120 --> 0:54:48.160
<v Speaker 1>what that email says. And so it's like that's a

0:54:48.280 --> 0:54:51.120
<v Speaker 1>clear message from leadership about how what they feel about this.

0:54:51.239 --> 0:54:53.120
<v Speaker 1>So in my mind, I'd be like, I'm already out

0:54:53.120 --> 0:54:56.080
<v Speaker 1>of here, you know what. Let me start interviewing. Let

0:54:56.080 --> 0:54:57.600
<v Speaker 1>me you know, I definitely do want to go back

0:54:57.840 --> 0:55:00.000
<v Speaker 1>for my master's, but let me start interviewing. I'm not

0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:01.960
<v Speaker 1>staying here. It's not a safe space for me.

0:55:03.760 --> 0:55:06.880
<v Speaker 2>This sounds like some real Southern stuff too. This because

0:55:07.120 --> 0:55:09.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, in the South, being from Georgia. I mean,

0:55:09.560 --> 0:55:11.319
<v Speaker 2>you grow up. And I've been doing a lot of

0:55:11.360 --> 0:55:14.480
<v Speaker 2>like thinking about my childhood and even the early jobs

0:55:14.480 --> 0:55:17.480
<v Speaker 2>I had in school and all these settings where it's

0:55:17.560 --> 0:55:20.080
<v Speaker 2>just like you would be told that's not polite conversation.

0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:23.359
<v Speaker 2>You know, so don't have certain conversations because you don't

0:55:23.360 --> 0:55:25.480
<v Speaker 2>know if everyone feels the same way you do. And

0:55:26.040 --> 0:55:28.279
<v Speaker 2>this is your company kind of asking you to leave

0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:31.359
<v Speaker 2>your skin color at the door at this time and

0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:33.680
<v Speaker 2>not giving you space to bring your whole self to work,

0:55:34.040 --> 0:55:36.960
<v Speaker 2>which is unfortunate. And I think, yeah, I agree with Tiffany.

0:55:37.000 --> 0:55:40.719
<v Speaker 2>If you can leave for your own happiness and to

0:55:40.800 --> 0:55:44.480
<v Speaker 2>work somewhere else that you feel accepted, that is great.

0:55:44.600 --> 0:55:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't say quit right now without something else lined up,

0:55:48.000 --> 0:55:50.520
<v Speaker 2>because again, I think your own financial security has to

0:55:50.520 --> 0:55:54.440
<v Speaker 2>be taken to mind. But companies need to pay the

0:55:54.480 --> 0:55:59.400
<v Speaker 2>consequences for not making all their employees, especially black employees,

0:55:59.440 --> 0:56:03.200
<v Speaker 2>black and brown employees, feel feel safe and invested in

0:56:03.719 --> 0:56:06.920
<v Speaker 2>and you know, a key, a key contributor to the

0:56:06.920 --> 0:56:10.239
<v Speaker 2>company's success. They need they need to start understanding what

0:56:10.239 --> 0:56:12.520
<v Speaker 2>they're losing, and they won't understand that if people do not,

0:56:13.160 --> 0:56:14.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, eventually leave.

0:56:14.440 --> 0:56:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm telling you, like I remember then, I tell

0:56:16.239 --> 0:56:17.960
<v Speaker 1>you I was telling you guys about that brand, right

0:56:17.960 --> 0:56:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Mandy that wanted to work with me that had no

0:56:19.440 --> 0:56:22.759
<v Speaker 1>black employees, no black contractors, no black anything. And they're like,

0:56:22.760 --> 0:56:24.839
<v Speaker 1>oh wait, we do work with black affiliate people and

0:56:24.880 --> 0:56:26.719
<v Speaker 1>we hire black models. I'm like, oh, so you take

0:56:26.760 --> 0:56:29.440
<v Speaker 1>black money, but you don't put money in black pockets.

0:56:29.520 --> 0:56:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Got it, and you're proud of it, as my dad

0:56:31.320 --> 0:56:34.840
<v Speaker 1>would say, and you're happy about it, Like that's a

0:56:34.920 --> 0:56:37.000
<v Speaker 1>very nice or anything to say. It's like when you're like, Dad,

0:56:37.040 --> 0:56:39.239
<v Speaker 1>look I got a eighty six and you're happy about it,

0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Like basically, you should be a standing for at eighty six.

0:56:42.239 --> 0:56:44.200
<v Speaker 1>What is the eighty six when you can get a hundred.

0:56:44.600 --> 0:56:47.240
<v Speaker 1>So they thought that coming to me with a sixty

0:56:47.320 --> 0:56:49.360
<v Speaker 1>seven was somehow they're going to get a pat on

0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:51.319
<v Speaker 1>the back. So I told her not interested things. I

0:56:51.360 --> 0:56:52.680
<v Speaker 1>want to be a black band aid. So they just

0:56:52.760 --> 0:56:54.960
<v Speaker 1>emailed me a couple of days ago, like heay, just

0:56:54.960 --> 0:56:57.360
<v Speaker 1>want to follow up to see if you really do

0:56:57.400 --> 0:57:00.239
<v Speaker 1>want to pause our affiliate partnership. I was like I do,

0:57:01.120 --> 0:57:02.600
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, you know, we are, you know, we're

0:57:02.600 --> 0:57:05.400
<v Speaker 1>definitely I think it was she was in the email,

0:57:05.440 --> 0:57:07.800
<v Speaker 1>but basically like we're going to be hiring some black people.

0:57:08.440 --> 0:57:10.719
<v Speaker 1>And I wrote her back and I was like, just

0:57:10.760 --> 0:57:15.000
<v Speaker 1>so we'd clear as you look for quote unquote black people,

0:57:15.600 --> 0:57:19.360
<v Speaker 1>that you're not doing anyone of favor. That what you're

0:57:19.360 --> 0:57:24.640
<v Speaker 1>doing is broadening the net to find a qualified like

0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:28.400
<v Speaker 1>to have a qualified, diverse team of people that work

0:57:28.440 --> 0:57:30.760
<v Speaker 1>for you. That's it. And I said, here's some suggestions

0:57:30.760 --> 0:57:33.280
<v Speaker 1>of how you can widen the net. You know, hire

0:57:33.360 --> 0:57:39.800
<v Speaker 1>recruiters that that that specialize in different applicants from different backgrounds.

0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Also reach out to some of the top HSBC us

0:57:43.720 --> 0:57:48.200
<v Speaker 1>like like I told her, like uh, Spellman and Moorhouse

0:57:48.280 --> 0:57:50.560
<v Speaker 1>and and I gave her a bunch of others. I

0:57:50.640 --> 0:57:55.720
<v Speaker 1>was like, these are you can find qualified folks. And

0:57:55.760 --> 0:57:58.880
<v Speaker 1>you're because hiring black people is not doing them a favor,

0:57:59.120 --> 0:58:02.000
<v Speaker 1>because the implement what you're implying is is that somehow

0:58:02.000 --> 0:58:04.400
<v Speaker 1>you're doing people a favor. You're doing what somebody with

0:58:04.440 --> 0:58:07.040
<v Speaker 1>their masters a favor to work here.

0:58:07.640 --> 0:58:07.720
<v Speaker 3>No.

0:58:08.200 --> 0:58:09.400
<v Speaker 1>So I just wrote that back. I mean, I said

0:58:09.440 --> 0:58:11.400
<v Speaker 1>it nicer than that, but I really was like, girl,

0:58:11.960 --> 0:58:14.600
<v Speaker 1>still ain't learn nothing. No, I'm not working with you.

0:58:14.960 --> 0:58:16.560
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I was very generous if you didn't

0:58:16.560 --> 0:58:19.000
<v Speaker 2>give that advice. Yeah, just because it's a quick Google

0:58:19.080 --> 0:58:20.919
<v Speaker 2>could teach her a great deal.

0:58:21.000 --> 0:58:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean I was like, you know what a bird fruit? Yes,

0:58:24.200 --> 0:58:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I was just you know, I mean she didn't say that.

0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:28.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're going to be like but I just

0:58:28.400 --> 0:58:30.160
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be like, girl, you're not like, what do

0:58:30.200 --> 0:58:32.240
<v Speaker 1>you want a freaking cookie? A freaking cookie for not

0:58:32.280 --> 0:58:36.160
<v Speaker 1>being for saying, hey, we're going to be less terrible. No,

0:58:36.520 --> 0:58:38.080
<v Speaker 1>you're not getting a cookie. As a matter of fact,

0:58:38.320 --> 0:58:41.320
<v Speaker 1>I call I let logan my content manager, No right away,

0:58:41.520 --> 0:58:44.280
<v Speaker 1>turn them things off me. Well, that's money lost us.

0:58:44.280 --> 0:58:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll take it. I'd rather less. I'm not putting money

0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:50.000
<v Speaker 1>in pockets if I can help it of people that

0:58:50.200 --> 0:58:54.760
<v Speaker 1>are egregiously out of alignment. You know, just like I

0:58:54.760 --> 0:58:58.320
<v Speaker 1>got an email from someone from a prepaid you know,

0:58:58.360 --> 0:59:01.880
<v Speaker 1>we know these prepaid cards are like the right because

0:59:01.880 --> 0:59:05.440
<v Speaker 1>there's potypothies. You you pay money to pay money, to

0:59:05.480 --> 0:59:08.600
<v Speaker 1>load your money on the prepaid card, to check your balance,

0:59:08.880 --> 0:59:12.520
<v Speaker 1>to take money off to transfer. I mean, they they

0:59:12.920 --> 0:59:15.560
<v Speaker 1>they are predatory, especially to black and brown people, and

0:59:15.640 --> 0:59:18.680
<v Speaker 1>especially to black and brown people who are are under

0:59:18.720 --> 0:59:22.520
<v Speaker 1>banked or unbanked. You know. So I got this thing

0:59:22.520 --> 0:59:26.520
<v Speaker 1>across what came across my email? Hey hey Bud Denisa,

0:59:26.600 --> 0:59:30.360
<v Speaker 1>love what you're doing. We were looking to hire a

0:59:30.400 --> 0:59:33.160
<v Speaker 1>spokesperson for a prepaid card. I was already like, you

0:59:33.200 --> 0:59:36.760
<v Speaker 1>lost me at prepaid card. We're looking for Mandy. These

0:59:36.760 --> 0:59:39.920
<v Speaker 1>are the words I quote. We're looking for an influencer

0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:41.800
<v Speaker 1>that is unapologetically black.

0:59:43.080 --> 0:59:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh. I was like, as opposed to one who's apologetic.

0:59:48.200 --> 0:59:50.680
<v Speaker 1>But that's the way of saying, like, girl, we want

0:59:50.720 --> 0:59:53.200
<v Speaker 1>you to be black black, So that way you can

0:59:53.280 --> 0:59:55.200
<v Speaker 1>trick your people.

0:59:55.400 --> 0:59:58.919
<v Speaker 2>A sassy influencer, so.

0:59:58.880 --> 1:00:01.320
<v Speaker 1>You could trick you could all fantically trick your people

1:00:01.760 --> 1:00:04.960
<v Speaker 1>into signing up for our company. I was like, what

1:00:05.040 --> 1:00:08.000
<v Speaker 1>in the predatory? So that I didn't even give a

1:00:08.040 --> 1:00:10.720
<v Speaker 1>response back. I just blocked them. So hopefully they're listening.

1:00:10.360 --> 1:00:13.160
<v Speaker 2>To them to go contact mine. Who is it that?

1:00:13.200 --> 1:00:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Who is that? Talk show host Montel Montel Williams, Yeah,

1:00:17.040 --> 1:00:18.960
<v Speaker 2>what about it? Remember he used to wrap that was

1:00:18.960 --> 1:00:24.080
<v Speaker 2>like money yeah, some some like yeah some similar no

1:00:24.400 --> 1:00:28.480
<v Speaker 2>lending that is that should be the absolutely And we've

1:00:28.480 --> 1:00:32.400
<v Speaker 2>talked about like rush card and even George Lopez got

1:00:32.480 --> 1:00:34.280
<v Speaker 2>tired of the paid card business.

1:00:34.440 --> 1:00:36.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, this is what I say that prepaid cards

1:00:36.960 --> 1:00:40.960
<v Speaker 1>are the malt liquor of financial products. Someone wrote me

1:00:41.120 --> 1:00:42.920
<v Speaker 1>was like, girl that has a worker. I said it

1:00:42.920 --> 1:00:45.360
<v Speaker 1>on ig Live. They're like, what do you mean? I said,

1:00:45.440 --> 1:00:49.520
<v Speaker 1>mat liquor is like the devil for your body. It's

1:00:49.520 --> 1:00:52.800
<v Speaker 1>the worst and it sounds but yes, it is gross.

1:00:52.840 --> 1:00:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Plus it's primarily marketed to a demographic of people who

1:00:58.000 --> 1:01:01.760
<v Speaker 1>typically don't have access to financial education or really finances,

1:01:02.160 --> 1:01:05.840
<v Speaker 1>and so it's purposefully malt liquor is purposely marketed to

1:01:06.640 --> 1:01:10.200
<v Speaker 1>mainly black and brown people who don't have much. And

1:01:10.280 --> 1:01:13.040
<v Speaker 1>so that is what that is what prepaid cars do.

1:01:13.080 --> 1:01:15.240
<v Speaker 1>It is malt liquor. It is a bault looker of

1:01:15.320 --> 1:01:19.240
<v Speaker 1>personal finance. And so don't do it. And yeah, when

1:01:19.240 --> 1:01:20.959
<v Speaker 1>I saw that, I was like, you clearly don't bother

1:01:21.000 --> 1:01:22.720
<v Speaker 1>me because I just be reading y'all for filth and

1:01:22.760 --> 1:01:27.360
<v Speaker 1>you're still in my inbox. But they're like, girl, you

1:01:27.440 --> 1:01:29.080
<v Speaker 1>unapologetically black girl.

1:01:31.240 --> 1:01:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah I know, Oh yeah, screenshot these emails, getting a

1:01:36.880 --> 1:01:41.760
<v Speaker 2>little folder they get by on board and feel like tweeting.

1:01:41.960 --> 1:01:44.720
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I can't understand when old people used

1:01:44.760 --> 1:01:46.200
<v Speaker 1>to say, like older people used to say, got my

1:01:46.200 --> 1:01:48.680
<v Speaker 1>pressure up, and I never understood, and now I'm like,

1:01:48.680 --> 1:01:50.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm here. Some of these theys just be getting my

1:01:50.600 --> 1:01:51.800
<v Speaker 1>pressure out of the pressure up.

1:01:52.680 --> 1:01:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Wanda, get it together. Well. My heart goes out

1:01:58.000 --> 1:02:00.200
<v Speaker 2>to everyone working in companies where you don't feel like

1:02:00.240 --> 1:02:02.240
<v Speaker 2>your voice is being heard or you can't bring your

1:02:02.240 --> 1:02:04.000
<v Speaker 2>whole self to the table. I hope that you get

1:02:04.000 --> 1:02:06.880
<v Speaker 2>out of those situations as soon as possible, But do

1:02:06.960 --> 1:02:08.919
<v Speaker 2>not feel guilty. This is what I want to because

1:02:08.920 --> 1:02:11.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting here and I almost feel you can kind

1:02:11.600 --> 1:02:14.360
<v Speaker 2>of feel guilty for not being I'm going to use

1:02:14.400 --> 1:02:16.760
<v Speaker 2>quotes brave enough to take that moral high ground and

1:02:16.840 --> 1:02:19.000
<v Speaker 2>quit a job based on your values or based on

1:02:19.600 --> 1:02:22.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, And I think that is incredibly brave if

1:02:22.560 --> 1:02:24.960
<v Speaker 2>you're willing to, if you're willing to put your own

1:02:25.000 --> 1:02:29.160
<v Speaker 2>financial security at risk to make a statement. I don't

1:02:29.160 --> 1:02:32.000
<v Speaker 2>think it is required. I think you can still be

1:02:33.240 --> 1:02:36.200
<v Speaker 2>I think you can still support all that is going

1:02:36.240 --> 1:02:40.040
<v Speaker 2>on and supported black lives and criminal justice reform and

1:02:40.600 --> 1:02:44.320
<v Speaker 2>just everything like that without putting your own financial security

1:02:44.320 --> 1:02:48.560
<v Speaker 2>at risk. But it also makes me so grateful to

1:02:49.760 --> 1:02:51.720
<v Speaker 2>the people who came before us, you know, during the

1:02:51.760 --> 1:02:54.280
<v Speaker 2>civil rights movement even before that, who were brave enough

1:02:54.360 --> 1:02:59.960
<v Speaker 2>to to boycott certain businesses to have walkouts. We just

1:03:00.080 --> 1:03:04.720
<v Speaker 2>saw recently Facebook employees staged a virtual walk out in

1:03:04.760 --> 1:03:09.800
<v Speaker 2>response to the company's treatment of President and we'll set

1:03:09.840 --> 1:03:15.680
<v Speaker 2>it Voldemort's posts on the network. And I think their

1:03:15.680 --> 1:03:20.600
<v Speaker 2>strength in numbers, So you know, if you want to

1:03:20.720 --> 1:03:24.240
<v Speaker 2>find like minded people, and maybe you can. You know,

1:03:24.360 --> 1:03:26.600
<v Speaker 2>I think there is strengthen numbers and maybe you can

1:03:26.640 --> 1:03:29.480
<v Speaker 2>find some like minded employees or workers where you guys

1:03:29.560 --> 1:03:31.959
<v Speaker 2>can you know, make an impact as a collective voice.

1:03:32.000 --> 1:03:34.160
<v Speaker 2>But I just I just don't. I mean, I hate

1:03:34.160 --> 1:03:38.280
<v Speaker 2>the thought of someone, you know, because of what's going on,

1:03:38.400 --> 1:03:41.120
<v Speaker 2>feeling like they can't make an impact. They just have

1:03:41.200 --> 1:03:43.280
<v Speaker 2>to quit, they have to leave and put their own

1:03:43.320 --> 1:03:45.800
<v Speaker 2>finances at at risk, because that to me is like

1:03:45.800 --> 1:03:48.000
<v Speaker 2>they're winning, to like they're still winning if we're not

1:03:48.040 --> 1:03:52.680
<v Speaker 2>out here winning financially. And you know, sadly, I think

1:03:52.720 --> 1:03:56.160
<v Speaker 2>when you're a person of color, often it means working

1:03:56.560 --> 1:03:58.560
<v Speaker 2>for a company that's not super diverse so that you

1:03:58.600 --> 1:04:01.600
<v Speaker 2>can get your coins, save up, build some wealth, and

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<v Speaker 2>it is, you know, unfortunately the way it is for now.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't want people to feel making any sense

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<v Speaker 2>at all.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you are.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't want people to feel bad about that.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing to be ashamed of. You're not less black,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't care less about black lives. If you're working

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<v Speaker 2>for a company that is not doing every single thing right,

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, you're probably it's probably

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<v Speaker 2>not your job to make them do everything right. And

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<v Speaker 2>when you get to the next level and you're able

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<v Speaker 2>to move on, I hope that you do when you

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<v Speaker 2>find a place that is aligned with your values and

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<v Speaker 2>it all just everything just you know, starts to sing

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<v Speaker 2>beautifully and everything is aligned. But if it's not that

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<v Speaker 2>way now, I just want people to give themselves grace

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<v Speaker 2>and to be okay with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, I love that because I know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people might be feeling like, oh, my company is

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<v Speaker 1>not like but it's like like at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, pay your billsys.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, Yeah, do you know what gets my pressure up?

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to articulate all the feelings that are happening in

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<v Speaker 2>this world. And you were talking about earlier just wanting

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<v Speaker 2>to choose your words wisely. I mean, at a time

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<v Speaker 2>when you're rewarded for having like hot takes and being

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<v Speaker 2>quick to and even on our podcast, I feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we we try and speak on issues that

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<v Speaker 2>are you know, and try and speak from our heart,

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<v Speaker 2>which often means we don't prepare what we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>say in advance. But at this time, I just feel

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<v Speaker 2>it's extra important to think about the words we choose,

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<v Speaker 2>and that adds an extra and it adds a level

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<v Speaker 2>of anxiety to normal conversations now that we're not there before.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what I'm feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a lucky yay for Zola. This is like

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<v Speaker 1>the love episode we've been like up down South mad happy,

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<v Speaker 1>like oh yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know you're a pug wear a mask?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, this is yes group ub wear a mask. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that. Oh so it's now it's time for booster

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<v Speaker 1>break for all our family.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're going to sing this song, you've got to

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<v Speaker 2>sing it peppy. Okay, sounds sad.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, now it's time to boost a break for

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<v Speaker 1>all that family. Is you going to boost? Is you

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<v Speaker 1>going to break? What you're going to do? Mandy?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, cookie monster? That's who I heard? Listen, my throat

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<v Speaker 2>has been run raw from doing Cookie Monster Impressions.

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<v Speaker 1>For the child Oh that's goode.

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<v Speaker 2>He loves it. I'll spare you guys. I'm gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>a boost right now for America America, and they're spending

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<v Speaker 2>because according to the Federal Reserve, the amount of credit

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<v Speaker 2>card debt in this credit loving country is down twenty

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<v Speaker 2>nine whole percentage. Yeah, So I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>this has to do with people very right rightly deciding

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's not the best time to start running up

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<v Speaker 2>my credit card for things that I can't afford because

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<v Speaker 2>of what's happening right now, or maybe it's time to

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<v Speaker 2>start paying down this debt aggressively, because you never know

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<v Speaker 2>what's going to happen. So this gives me a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of hope because before this crisis, those credit makes

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<v Speaker 2>America's credit card addiction is hotter than ever. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like every month their record highs in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of revolving credit debt. So this gives me a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of hope that at least we've learned a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit since the last economic crisis. And I hope, I

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<v Speaker 2>really hope that people are, you know, socking their coins away.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the rainy day, This is the rainiest of days,

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<v Speaker 2>and we don't know how long it's gonna end, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>keep it up, and I'm right there with you. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying so hard not to not to use

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<v Speaker 2>the credit or at least to continue paying it off

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<v Speaker 2>and save more than I have in a in a

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<v Speaker 2>hot minute.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. So, no, you're right. I saw that article.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, snappity shnap, that's awesome. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to boo. So I had a really great call with

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<v Speaker 1>the production company so about to them have been reaching out,

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<v Speaker 1>but I had one calm particular with a company run

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<v Speaker 1>by Tooless with an A and that was a uh

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<v Speaker 1>oh that's true. That's just ooh, you're life and so

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<v Speaker 1>but of all the pitches, sometimes you know, people pitch

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and I'm like, eh, or it's just not in alignment.

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<v Speaker 1>On one production company actually, like as they were interviewing me,

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<v Speaker 1>asked me to add some sass, not literally it was

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<v Speaker 1>the right kid, yes or like next winging on. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you say it like this? I said I cannot. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I can, but bruh no. So anyway, this woman, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I won't say the name yet until like things are

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<v Speaker 1>signed and stuff. But what she pitched me was just

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<v Speaker 1>so wonderful. It just felt right. It was positive. It

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<v Speaker 1>was an alignment with how I want to show up.

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<v Speaker 1>It just when I tell you it just now, whether

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<v Speaker 1>you know it comes to fruition or not, whatever, because

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many steps that has to take until a

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<v Speaker 1>show comes to fruition. But it just felt so right.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's been seven years of like production companies reaching

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<v Speaker 1>out to me and me being like, nah no, let

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<v Speaker 1>me see, and I just finally feel like I'm here now.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like the right time, it feels like the

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<v Speaker 1>right idea, it feels like the right company, So we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to boost on that. Yeah, it is, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>because I was telling Superman about it. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if I have like a show, show like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be like a thing, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, I'm like no, like because I'm even planning

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<v Speaker 1>for it now. Like there are things in business. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons why I brought on a business coach

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<v Speaker 1>is to what does that look like to pivot time away?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you can't be on set, you know, all day,

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<v Speaker 1>and somehow you're not going to make all the meetings,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like what does that look like.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've been just planning for that because I know

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<v Speaker 1>that it's coming. And like I said, I've learned long

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<v Speaker 1>ago in business that many times something is not the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the thing before the thing, or the thing before

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<v Speaker 1>the thing before the thing. Meaning like let's just say

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is a successful show. But me being reached

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<v Speaker 1>out to my first production company seven years ago wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>about me getting a show seven years ago. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the thing before the thing before the thing. It was

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<v Speaker 1>to tell me get ready. It was to tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, practice more. It was to tell me, figure out,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you gonna do with your hair or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm just making things up because I've had locks

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<v Speaker 1>for like twenty years, you know. But so it was

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<v Speaker 1>to tell me basically to prepare. And so but I

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<v Speaker 1>think I feel like that this is the actual thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It just felt. It just feels like a warm hug,

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<v Speaker 1>this idea, and so yeah, I'm just really excited about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It just allows me to like be more of service

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<v Speaker 1>to the women that I'm already serving. So, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just I'm excited, but more so, I just feel

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<v Speaker 1>like good and warm about it. And I just couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have come at a better time, because there's there's just

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<v Speaker 1>a lot going on, you know, as far I'm talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>like civil unrest. There's just there's just so many cloudy

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<v Speaker 1>aspects of life that it's nice to have sunshine. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's just my boost. But another little funny boost. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if there's a boost, but someone messages me

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<v Speaker 1>earlier today and I had put like on in still

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<v Speaker 1>like oh Tiffany the Budgetese Alice. And then and then

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<v Speaker 1>they saw, like I did an interview and they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh Tiffany Alice, and they saw that underneath it was

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<v Speaker 1>like Budgetie, founder of the Budgetista, and she wrote Tiffany.

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<v Speaker 1>All this time, I thought Budgetsa was on your birth certificate, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 1>I swim Jesus, I swimple Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>Even Tiffany's on your birth certificate.

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<v Speaker 1>No it's not, well yeah, no it's not. It's Adochi,

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<v Speaker 1>my African name.

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<v Speaker 2>And that that was a joke.

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<v Speaker 3>But can you.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine she literally wrote Tiffany question mark question mark. All

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<v Speaker 1>this time, I thought Budgetista was on your birth certificate, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna call you out by name because I'm sure,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like Nick, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, shout out to her for not questioning

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<v Speaker 2>the you know your mother and what.

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<v Speaker 1>She And then on top of that, how can be

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<v Speaker 1>it that I teach finances? I just don't even know?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, oh my goodness. Oh so yeah, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>How the opposite thing happened, where I thought someone's name

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<v Speaker 2>was so ridiculous that it couldn't possibly be their real name,

1:12:10.800 --> 1:12:13.080
<v Speaker 2>and then I realized it's actually their name. Ya. Because

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, so, what's your name, They're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's right there in my Instagram handle. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's your name. Yeah, thank goodness that was not a

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<v Speaker 2>phone call.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm so they get it a lot. I knew

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<v Speaker 1>a girl named Mary Christmas M Mary like M A

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<v Speaker 1>R y, And because her last name was that's actually Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, come on, now, your parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't know Christmas could be a last name.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but why are you going to do that to

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<v Speaker 1>that girl? Mary?

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<v Speaker 2>Even imagine a Christmas right now, Merry Christmas. That is sad.

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<v Speaker 2>But wasn't your sister wasn't she named Christmas? Carol?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, her name was Carol because she was born in

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<v Speaker 1>December like December twenty first. But so she was named

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<v Speaker 1>after Christmas Carol, which I was like, oh daddy, how

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<v Speaker 1>Nigerian of you. But at least it's not Christmas. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, but her name is Carol. Carl was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all my business, all of.

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<v Speaker 2>It, all of it could have been Rudolph me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh sorry Mary all right.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I forgot. I was just rereading that question.

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<v Speaker 2>The woman who had a question about her job. She

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<v Speaker 2>said she's Nigerian American and she loves, loves loves tipping

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<v Speaker 2>the budgetista.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's awesome. I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Well that is our show. I have nothing

1:13:27.200 --> 1:13:29.960
<v Speaker 2>left to give. We have to end the show. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't squeezed everything out. Well, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 2>another show. Tip.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Manja. This honestly has been like my rock.

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<v Speaker 1>My rock is just a joy. Like I said, you

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<v Speaker 1>were on my roll card as a one you decide.

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<v Speaker 2>I was sweating it. I'm like, oh shit, which.

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<v Speaker 1>You And I was like, I really enjoy it. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it doesn't feel like, oh God, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>ta you know, like that's how you know, And it

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<v Speaker 1>just feels like I know we're gonna laugh and honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>because well, one half the time I forget that like

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<v Speaker 1>anybody else is listening, because sometimes I'll say stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I said that, I'm want a mission because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just talking to you. You know. Sometimes we have

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<v Speaker 1>to remind each other to start taping, you know. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it just feels like, oh, you know, once a week

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<v Speaker 1>I get to talk to my friend Mandy, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>we answer people's questions and we just get to chit chat.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's nice, honestly. So I'm just grateful for.

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<v Speaker 2>That same group hug. Talk of hug and me both

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<v Speaker 2>say you need virtual hug. All right, We'll go take care,

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<v Speaker 2>get some rest, eat some of that spaghetti, and I

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<v Speaker 2>am going to try not to lie to my therapist

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<v Speaker 2>this week, yes, and try to figure out some stuff

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<v Speaker 2>I can say no to. That's my homework, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>all right too, Yeah,