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Speaker 2: I could only if I could only go back to

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Speaker 1: just business coaching for me and him, because we get

431
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Speaker 1: individual coaching every week, but it's also coaching for the team.

432
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Speaker 1: So it's just, like I said, been an amazing experience

433
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Speaker 1: and we've just grown tremendously. And I used to think, like,

434
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I used to think business coaching

435
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 1: was kind of scammy, just because I would hear so

436
00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 1: many women, especially who were taking advantage of But if

437
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 1: you find the right coach, yeah, then it could just

438
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 1: make all the difference. Like that money that we spent,

439
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 1: we're already going to make that back as soon as

440
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Speaker 1: we're done. There are things already I'm like, oh, we'll

441
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Speaker 1: make that back honestly in the first week of our

442
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Speaker 1: completion of this coaching, So that money is already money

443
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Speaker 1: in the bank. Plus money moving forward. So asking for

444
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Speaker 1: help is by.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there are people out there who make

446
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Speaker 2: who have careers because they're so good at this type

447
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 2: of thing. And also it's it's like anything, it's like

448
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 2: personal therapy. It's about finding the right fit for you.

449
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 2: And I mean, I think I talked to five different

450
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Speaker 2: therapists before I settle on the one that I worked with.

451
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Speaker 2: And what I love about the idea of any sort

452
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 2: of outside third party who has knowledge of the industry

453
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 2: or knowledge of how what you're doing can be successful,

454
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Speaker 2: to look at your to look at the thing that

455
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 2: you've been staring at and you're so in the weeds

456
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 2: yourself and you can't see the forest for the trees.

457
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Speaker 2: To have a third not a third, but a yeah,

458
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 2: a third party looking at it. They will always call

459
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Speaker 2: something to attention that you may not have seen yourself.

460
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 2: You just have to be in the right space for

461
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Speaker 2: it mentally to be to be open to that feedback

462
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Speaker 2: and to be open for that, you know, to be

463
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Speaker 2: open for that growth. Because you ever watched that show

464
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Speaker 2: What's It on CNBC Marcus Lamoniz what's his show? Or

465
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 2: he the profit? Yes, the profit yeah, where he goes

466
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Speaker 2: into kind of. I mean it sounds not some of

467
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,360
Speaker 2: these businesses are like truly trash. That he'll go into

468
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Speaker 2: a struggling business, a small business, and he will identify

469
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 2: very quickly sort of what the weaknesses are. And the

470
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Speaker 2: businesses that usually succeed are the ones whose owners are willing,

471
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Speaker 2: the ones willing to listen and accept an outside view.

472
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Speaker 2: And it's the ones who aren't ready for that yet,

473
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Speaker 2: who are too stubborn, can't see their own you know, weaknesses,

474
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Speaker 2: don't want to acknowledge it. They're the ones that struggle.

475
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 2: If I were working for the budgetiesta to see that

476
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Speaker 2: you're investing in this kind of this kind of coaching,

477
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 2: and then it's not just for you, but also your staff.

478
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Speaker 2: I mean, that sends a great message to them. It

479
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 2: sends a message that, Okay, Tiffany, even Tiffany knows that

480
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Speaker 2: she's not perfect and that we're not perfect, and she

481
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 2: wants to grow and she knows and she recognizes in

482
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Speaker 2: order to grow, we all need, you know, some outside council.

483
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Speaker 2: And I feel like it'll bring all of you guys

484
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Speaker 2: closer as a team, just that you're investing in this

485
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Speaker 2: type of asset.

486
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Speaker 1: Yeah, bank at I can't wait to like, you know,

487
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Speaker 1: da da da, I'll share some of like the major shifts,

488
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Speaker 1: like we were done around I would say in August,

489
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Speaker 1: well done, and then we have plans that we'll have

490
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Speaker 1: to do and like enact and then but I can't

491
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Speaker 1: wait to just share, like these are the major shifts

492
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Speaker 1: that were made and as a result, this is where

493
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Speaker 1: we are. So it just has me thinking differently, Like,

494
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Speaker 1: you know, there's just growth, not just as a business. Honestly,

495
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Speaker 1: most of the growth is really as a person and

496
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Speaker 1: as a leader, like, oh, okay, these are the ways

497
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Speaker 1: I have fall these are things I'm doing really well

498
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: at and how to lean in you know, these are

499
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Speaker 1: the ways where you know, how could I possibly know?

500
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Speaker 1: It's still new to me, but here's where I can grow.

501
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 1: You Yeah, you start to realize that the thing that

502
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 1: brought you here oftentimes is also keeping you here, and

503
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 1: you're like, god it that with each level you have

504
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 1: to adjust, and so learning like what that looks like

505
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: and learning how to adjust way before you reach that

506
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: level is really like the key. So you don't want

507
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Speaker 1: to be like, oh so I need level ten, you know, adjustment,

508
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 1: And I might love a time right now it's like

509
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: you should figure that out when you're at level seven,

510
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: so the transition is smoother.

511
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Speaker 2: Love it. So what once these two months are up,

512
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Speaker 2: is there any kind of ongoing like once a year

513
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 2: check in that's included? I mean, do you have any

514
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 2: kind of follow up with this person?

515
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Zion, So I'm not sure if like it's included,

516
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 1: but certainly you can continue a relationship. I don't know,

517
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Speaker 1: like what the cost of that is. And maybe I

518
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Speaker 1: should have said his like well whatever, I've been sayingthing

519
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Speaker 1: because I'm like, who knows, maybe his price is higher

520
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 1: now because I hate sometimes telling people's prices, not because

521
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 1: I don't mind share prices, but just because I'm like

522
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: they might be like, hey, we charged one hundred thousand.

523
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: Now I know the budget Lisa said that, but noupe

524
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: not anymore. But either way, we're here.

525
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Speaker 2: Every business is different. You have to be smart enough

526
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Speaker 2: to know, Okay, well if my business has sixty employees

527
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 2: and Tiffany has twenty, then probably the price will be different.

528
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. And so yeah, so what happens is

529
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Speaker 1: like what I really like they're super organizers, like we

530
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 1: you do kind of like these pre meetings create a

531
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: plan which is like this is the aim for our

532
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: time together. This is what it's going to look like

533
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Speaker 1: week by week by week, day by day by day.

534
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Speaker 1: And it's just honestly, they've done everything from looking at marketing,

535
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Speaker 1: from looking at our finances from we we we already

536
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: had quarterly meetings kind of, but they taught us like

537
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: this is what a quarterly meeting should look like. I

538
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: was like, oh, mind blown, Okay, it was so awesome. Honestly,

539
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 1: I could tell the team was like, ah, because you know,

540
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: quite honestly, we've been making it up.

541
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Speaker 2: You know, amen to that.

542
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like cause I don't know. I'm just like I

543
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 1: always tell a team we're learning together to learn, like, oh,

544
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 1: this is what's going to help us strategically move forward,

545
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: and even learning things like when we do have like

546
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: these kind of like teen meetings that like me and

547
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: my business partner should really speak last, because oftentimes when

548
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: leaders speak first, it sets the tone for what everyone

549
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: else says. And so it's like, hey, guys, you know

550
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: we're thinking about this new project. What do you think

551
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 1: now I'm thinking about this new project. I think we

552
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: should do this, this, this, and this. What do you think?

553
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: I agree?

554
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 2: Tiffany versus why are you are talking to me right now? Right?

555
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: And I'm just like, because you don't have more nuances

556
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: I can sew that person. But so am I I'm like, well,

557
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: I told you can give me seat. Yes, And after

558
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 2: I told you, how excited I was.

559
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Speaker 1: Like, isn't that great?

560
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 3: Guys? And They're like yeah, and so I was like,

561
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 3: oh so just even liddle things like that, I'm like, okay,

562
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: speaking last, it's just when I tell you, it's just been.

563
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 1: So so awesome, And I just feel like, like I said,

564
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Speaker 1: it's not even about the business as much as I'm like,

565
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: I'm growing as a person, Like ah, this is what

566
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: real leadership looks like. Not to say I wasn't leading before,

567
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: but this is what really creating a space for your

568
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 1: employees to grow and to live in their zone of genius.

569
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Speaker 1: This is what it really looks like to listen, because

570
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: I always feel like I was a good listener, but

571
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: not to just listen for listening's sake, but for listening.

572
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: And then how do you take these suggestions and put

573
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Speaker 1: them into a strategic plan of action? And it's like, oh, okay,

574
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: we've decided all these things and for the next three months.

575
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 1: This is what we're working on, and we're not going

576
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Speaker 1: to bring any new thing in. And if we are

577
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: going to bring a new thing, we like, like a

578
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: new pair of shoes, you have to throw away a

579
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: pair of shoes to make room for this new pair.

580
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: So it forces you not to overstretch, because that's one

581
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Speaker 1: of our issues is that we are really excitable, like

582
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: the Unicorn squad, and so we'll take on too many

583
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: projects and it slows the whole process down. So it's like,

584
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: how do we prevent them. It's by having these quarterly meetings,

585
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: getting really clear we are, you know, we get clear

586
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: and then we get unclear, and so learning like how

587
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: not to do that into taking things into bite sized pieces.

588
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 1: But like I said, it's been I could just tell

589
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: like the company, everyone is just so excited, like wow,

590
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: because to your point, Mandy, it's not just my business

591
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: partner I get in coaching. We're all getting coaching. Everyone's

592
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: getting a hand, you know, like here's your role scorecard,

593
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: this is what's next step. So everyone's like, oh wait,

594
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: we all are included in this. So yeah, like I said,

595
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: best money ever spent, and I would spend it again

596
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: and again, well, you know, with a reason, but but yeah,

597
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: definitely the best money ever spent. I could see you

598
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: doing something like this like once a year or once

599
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: every two or three years, just to realign.

600
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just yeah, I think it's investing in

601
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 2: people and people. Everybody wants to grow like you. You

602
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 2: want to grow in your in your job. And if

603
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 2: you feel like there's no opportunities for you guys to grow,

604
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 2: then that's when people start looking at other opportunities and

605
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 2: they look for another job that will get them to

606
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 2: next level. But you're keeping having the opportunity to level up,

607
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 2: you know, in your words right here at the budgetess

608
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 2: to ink level up, level up? Oh man, well let's

609
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 2: level up and take a quick break and come back

610
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 2: with some questions about.

611
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: I love it, you know, I love me. Some questions.

612
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: The zone of genius, Okay, we have to get that

613
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: right zone of genius. What's in my zone of genius?

614
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: I might think about that. I'm more worried about the

615
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 2: zone of incompetent, zone of incompetence and zone of competence.

616
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: Do I have enough self awareness to say when I'm

617
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: incompetent at other than power point, I don't know. I

618
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: did come back from attorney to leave and ask for

619
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: a crazy promotion. I think my my my zone of

620
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 2: incompetence is sometimes taking on No, that's what you say.

621
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: That's the same thing. I just work too hard. No,

622
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,239
Speaker 2: but it's what you're saying. I love a challenge and

623
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 2: I love to like you know, That's why I said

624
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: I lost so many friends when I got I was

625
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: talking earlier about the Fitbit and how and like the

626
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: Peloton I'm getting my Peloton bike, and part of me

627
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: is so competitive. I just want to like, I'm already

628
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: thinking of all the records I'm gonna smash Amongst my friends.

629
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: You have Pelotons, like they're not gonna see me come in,

630
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: and how the Fitbit. Truly, I almost lost friendships, that's

631
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: how competitive I was. But I just love a challenge

632
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: and I just get so I get so set on

633
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: it and it makes me successful, but it also I'm

634
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: not happy at the end of the day. I'm run ragged,

635
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: you know. So Yeah, when you know what you can do, look,

636
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: I promise y'all a break, and I'm not even giving

637
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: myself one.

638
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's take to say. Something you can do

639
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: is just to look on your calendar and just start

640
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: writing down, like because usually I calendar all my big tasks,

641
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: so that helped me to write those down and to

642
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: really act myself as I was doing those tasks. How

643
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: did I.

644
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Speaker 2: Feel, m That's true? How do I feel?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

646
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Speaker 2: You gave me a lot to think about. We will

647
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Speaker 2: take a quick break and be right back with y'all questions.

648
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Speaker 2: And we're back with some questions. You guys, hit us up.

649
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Speaker 2: We're at Brandon and Mission podcast on the Gram, where

650
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Speaker 2: you can d m us your question. You can also

651
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Speaker 2: send us an email at brown and wait, what's your email?

652
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Speaker 2: Brandon Mission Podcast at gmail dot com.

653
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: Even this, I remembered it after ride almost five years.

654
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: I was like, I got I got it.

655
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: I was just talking about being run ragged. I am

656
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 2: so I'm so tied. I've done, I'm doing too much,

657
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: but dam it. And Lauren was right. Lauren, my therapist,

658
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: she was like, I don't know, Mandy, it seems like

659
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: you're probably going to regret some of the things you've

660
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 2: said yes too lately. And I'm like, no, I feel great,

661
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: I feel amazing and I and honestly I lied to

662
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: her on her last maybe you shouldn't lie to your

663
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 2: Mandy water she because I knew she was right. I'm doing.

664
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: My husband started going to work two days ago, two

665
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: days a week. Well he always works, but into the

666
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: city for two days a week, which means I'm here

667
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: with the kiddo and my full time job all day.

668
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: And I was like, it's only two days, you know,

669
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: and I'm talking myself out of basically getting help. And

670
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: then I'm doing all this stuff. I'm you know, I

671
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: felt this real call to action with the Black Lives

672
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: Matter movement and the George Floyd protest. I felt this

673
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: call to action. So like I said, you know, try

674
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: and evoke change. And that's that's meant stepping up, you know,

675
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: at my company, but then also doing some stuff in

676
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: the community and at my at my alma mater. And

677
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 2: it's all great, but I'm not necessarily doing the best

678
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: job balancing at all. My zone of my zone of

679
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 2: over wars, the zone of says yes too much, I know,

680
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 2: the zone of over excited, project boundaries, over excited. Everything

681
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: sounds great. I love to do things and to feel productive,

682
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: but it just is so annoying that there's only twenty

683
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: four hours in the day. I just need more hours,

684
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: that's all I need.

685
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: No, you need to see you you. I thought you

686
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: said you love to draw a line. You're not drawing boundaries.

687
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: Well, I know it's interesting. Maybe I should do the

688
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 2: zone of No. I do love personal boundaries and everything

689
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: I've said, yes too, I'm excited about. But it's a

690
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 2: little bit. I do have a pattern, if I can

691
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: use Lauren's words from I do tend to have a

692
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: pattern of going through these like really like you know,

693
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: I always say, like freshman Mandy at the career fair

694
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: or the activities fair in college where I sign up

695
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: for like way too many things. The next thing, you know,

696
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: I'm like treasurer of that group and secretary of that group,

697
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: and I'll and I'm like, yes, I'll do that, and

698
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: it all sounds great, and I do love the things

699
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: I'm doing, but there's if you have too you can't

700
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: be a genius if there's too much stuff in that zone,

701
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

702
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: And also too look, it's still it's still setting boundaries

703
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: because it can be a lot of great things. Because

704
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: there's so many great things that on my plate right now,

705
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, oh my gosh,

706
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: my gosh. But it's just not possible for me to

707
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: say yes to all those things. I have to create space,

708
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: and like I have, literally for the last two or

709
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: three weeks, I've been working ten to twelve hours a day,

710
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: money through Riday.

711
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: It's like all in a row.

712
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: Yo, It's insane, and I'm just like poor Superman.

713
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: Working all in a row.

714
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: Yes, that's like, I mean, that's why I make me

715
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: making spaghetti today. He was like spaghetti. Oh my gosh.

716
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: Because I'm like, we're like two ships passing in the

717
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: night and I'm like, now, So even though the things

718
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: are exciting and they're they're amazing things, to what end.

719
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: That's what I've been asking myself, Like these things are great,

720
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: to what end? I have to prioritize, Like you reach

721
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 1: a certain level because you're at that level where because

722
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: you put in such amazing work, you are going to

723
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: be reaping amazing things. Like you've sown apple seeds. Girl,

724
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 1: you're picking apples. So you're like, oh my god, an apple,

725
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the apple. It's like maybe they're all

726
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: apples at this point. They are all apples. So what

727
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? You know what I mean, like,

728
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: you can't pick every single apple, eat every single apple.

729
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: And so I realized, like, oh, oh, Tiffany, you are

730
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: literally reaping what you've sown, and you've sown good things,

731
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: so you're gonna pick good things. But you don't have

732
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: to pick everything just because it's ready for harvest, because

733
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: it's not possible to have all the things. You know,

734
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to decide today. You know, I'm not

735
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: gonna have apple today. And it's okay, you know, because

736
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: if not, you know, if I was twenty one with

737
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: no you know, no husband, no fai family, I mean,

738
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: you know, aside from like my sisters and my parents,

739
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 1: then yeah, you can go hard, like twenty four hours

740
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: a day if you want. But I don't even want

741
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: that now that that's just the truth. I don't. I

742
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: want time down, like I want, you know, my niece

743
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: and my nephew to come over and tear apart my house,

744
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: you know, eat up all my cookies. I see you, Roman,

745
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: I see you.

746
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 2: You know.

747
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: So it's just like learning. I'm still learning how to

748
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: say you know, no, I've gotten better actually told my

749
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: mom know you I know, there's like questions, but it's

750
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: almost like we're questioning ourselves. I told my mom, no,

751
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: she wanted me to do, not in a bad way,

752
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: but she wanted me to do like a something for

753
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: like a group of her of a professional group of her,

754
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: her professional group that she's a part of. And they

755
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: wanted me to do like a keynote. And honestly, maybe

756
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: I am exhausted, exhausted. And I looked on my on

757
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: my my my role report card, my role card, to

758
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: see like how did I feel about these types of

759
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: like engagements, And I put them at like a three,

760
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: sometimes a two, but mostly a three, meaning that I'm

761
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: really good at them, but I really don't enjoy them anymore.

762
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: And I was like so And then I also learned

763
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: from Zion, so many times I say yes because I'm

764
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: afraid of what people will think about me. And so

765
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: I said, this is a time to tell your mom.

766
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: I was like, honestly, Mommy, I'm just so so overwhelmed.

767
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: I can't and so normally my fears my mom's going

768
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: to be disappointed with me and how selfish of me.

769
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: And she's like, yeah, I figure it because my baby's

770
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: doing big things. And I was like, oh, but so

771
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: you know the fear of my mom is going to

772
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: be so disappointed. I'm such a bad, selfish child. That's

773
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: what I would have told myself two or three weeks ago.

774
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 1: But I told her and she took it like yeah,

775
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: I figured that it was just extra proud of me,

776
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 1: and like I was like, oh, that's what happens when

777
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: you said a boundary. The people who care about you

778
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: don't give you a hard time about it. And so

779
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: it was just like a like, you know, cause I

780
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: would never like what tell my mom. Know, I'd be like, oh,

781
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: I'll do all ten of them. But I'm exhausted, you know,

782
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: I'm tired. I have to say no. Like I said,

783
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: it's good things, but I'm just like I'm going to

784
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: be drowning in the sea of goodness if I continue

785
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: like this. Like when I tell you, remember two weeks ago, Mandy,

786
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: I told you like I threw out my back, Like like,

787
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: so I threw out my back one out. I was like,

788
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: oh my god, Oh my god, my god, cause I'm

789
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: sitting so much. My level eight and a half out

790
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: of ten back muscles just gone. Then finally get my

791
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: back together after going to the doctor. My the left side,

792
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: my neck. I was like, oh, my neck. I threw

793
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: on my neck so much so I had to cancel everything.

794
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm just laying in the bed like my neck, my neck.

795
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: Go to the doctor, she gives me medicine. Finally get

796
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: my my neck together. Now it's the other side of

797
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: my neck and shoulder, Mandy. My body is like, girl,

798
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: you've been to die up. That's what we're doing. So

799
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm just like, to what end? Because my body is

800
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: obviously telling me, Tiffany, I know these all these amazing things.

801
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: I know this interview and that into your New York

802
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: Times and Well Street, I know, and then this and

803
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: that you can't do all the things. Your body is

804
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: literally physically trying to slow you down. And so I'm

805
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: speaking to y'all and anybody else who might be listening

806
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: that like, because it's in a weird place. I've worked

807
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: so hard for so long to reap all of these

808
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: things in they're here now, and I don't know how

809
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 1: to say no, but I want to reap those things.

810
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: And it's like a girl, you're gonna I mean, you

811
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 2: can't even make this Hamilton reference because you haven't watched

812
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 2: it yet.

813
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: I know, when do I get time to watch Hamilton.

814
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 2: They have the same note. Listen, if you you make

815
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: time for what's important to you. Okay, I threw my

816
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 2: back out to doing a five hundred piece puzzle. This

817
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: is the thing. I can't just do it over the court.

818
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm gonna get this puzzle. I'll just do,

819
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: you know, thirty minutes a day. I get obsessed and

820
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: bending over this dam coffee here for four hours, going

821
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: to bed at one am. You're so competitive, I know

822
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 2: with myself, I am my own worst.

823
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: No, I don't think it's a worse ede of me,

824
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: but it's hilarious that, like, no, you are literally legitimately

825
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: competitive to the point where you are literally competing against Mandy.

826
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, Mandie, you thought this puzzle was gonna

827
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: be Oh no, not today, Mandy, yesterday.

828
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 2: It feels so good to win. And then you know what,

829
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: there was a single piece missing and I wanted to cry,

830
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. At the very end, I think some

831
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 2: look back, you were the dog agent. Yeah, honestly, why

832
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 2: am I paying a therapist? I know what the issue is.

833
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: She's gonna ask me, Mandy, why who told you to

834
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 2: do all these things? I'm gonna be like me. All right,

835
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 2: let's get to some other process, all right. This question

836
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: hit home with me because, as you guys know if

837
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 2: you're longtime listeners of the show, I once, actually twice,

838
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: we moved in with my husband's parents for very at

839
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: different stages in our relationship. We live with them for

840
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: a hot minute, so this question hit hit home for me.

841
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 2: This comes from listener Alex. Alex says, my husband and

842
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 2: I have made the decision to move in with his parents.

843
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 2: My husband works as a flight attendant for a well

844
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: known airline, but due to COVID, our monthly income has decreased.

845
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 2: Since he's no longer working, there's a possibility he may

846
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 2: even lose his job in October. I've been paying our

847
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: rent and a portion of our bills while he takes

848
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: care of student loans, which have been put on pause thankfully,

849
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 2: and our utilities. We made the decision to move back

850
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: in with this with our in laws because I can

851
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: no longer continue to pay rent as rent and our

852
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: current complex has increased and is taking up an entire

853
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 2: paycheck for me. A few unforeseen life circumstances have also

854
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: left our emergency fund depleted. I'm hoping that by moving

855
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: in with his parents, will be able to rebuild our

856
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 2: emergency fund and get our finances back in order. Do

857
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: you guys think it's weird to move back in with

858
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 2: my husband's parents. What would you guys do if you

859
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: were in our positions? We're twenty five and twenty six

860
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: years old and we've been married for just a little

861
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 2: over a year. For her, guess it lived with your parents,

862
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 2: your husband's parents. But yeah, it's weird. It's not weird

863
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 2: at all. It's you know what, at least you have someone.

864
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: I bet you so many people would love to like

865
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 2: what you know, save on rent, just move back home.

866
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: At least you guys have the option.

867
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know at forty girl, the it'sh hits the bad.

868
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: I'm calling mommy daddy. So that's bed bedroom, Like I

869
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 1: thought she was gonna say, out their mortgage.

870
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: I feel like they could at least give you a spot.

871
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: But you know, like except what I understand, because you know,

872
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: there's like this shame about like oh am I moving backwards?

873
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: And is it like adult? No, Like being an adult

874
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: is asking for help when needed. So if you are

875
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: have the privilege enough, because like Mandy, like you said,

876
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: everyone doesn't have that ability. If you you know, sometimes

877
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: people parents don't live close enough. Sometimes people's parents are struggling.

878
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: Sometimes people they're not speaking to their parents, or their

879
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: parents can't take care of them their own finances. So

880
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: if you have that ability, then that is a blessing

881
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: and blessing I'm blessing. And yeah, I don't whether you're

882
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: twenty five, just know this. If you need to move

883
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: back home at thirty thirty five, forty fifty, if you

884
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: need help, that's what it's there for. I just so

885
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: you know, I moved back home and look where I

886
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: am now. I moved back home with my parents at

887
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: age thirty and now two years ago I was able

888
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: to pay off their house. So how full circle in

889
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: getting myself together, I was then able to then give

890
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: back to them. So yeah, don't be ashamed of that.

891
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: Do what you need to do to get where you

892
00:41:58,840 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: need to get to.

893
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and for me, the dynamic here is similar to

894
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 2: what happened with us. I was we must have been

895
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 2: I must have been twenty six twenty seven. We moved

896
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: in with my husband's parents before we got married because

897
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: I had this wild idea that I wanted to live

898
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 2: rent free so that we could save up for the wedding,

899
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 2: because I did not want to take on debt for

900
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: the wedding, and it was a number of things. You know,

901
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: rent in our neighborhood was getting really expensive. This was

902
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: a few years ago. I maan, I guess, like four

903
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: or five years ago. We're living in Queen's and I

904
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 2: also wanted to save for a house, and I just

905
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: knew I wasn't going to get there spending you know,

906
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: twenty one hundred dollars a month in our rent. So

907
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: for me, it was an opportunity to save money. And

908
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 2: we did save money, and that was beautiful. The toll

909
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: it took on me mentally and psychologically living with my

910
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: in laws, you know, that was a price that I

911
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: had to pay, and unfortunately, you know, that kind of

912
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: drove me out. I don't think we ever made it

913
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: more than what did we maybe spend like seven eight

914
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: months the first stint and our second time moving back

915
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 2: in with them was and bless them for even allowing

916
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: us to This is the thing. You're so grateful, and

917
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: then you feel so guilty for being so ine, you

918
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like when someone wants to know

919
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: where you're at and I'm like, I missed the days

920
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: when no one knew or cared where I was because

921
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: they didn't see me coming home. The second time, we

922
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 2: were doing the renovation for our house and so we

923
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: wanted to again save money by not paying for an

924
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 2: apartment while we were renovating the house. So they graciously

925
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,919
Speaker 2: led us into their home each and every time. It's

926
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 2: not weird at all. It was what we needed to

927
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: do so we wouldn't have to taken a lot of debt.

928
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: And I hope that you guys, I mean the fact

929
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: that you had an emergency fund have so I have

930
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: lots of faith in you guys that you will get

931
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: back on your feet. It sounds like you're already great

932
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 2: as a couple financially. You just you've done everything right.

933
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: It just sounds like so many people out there the

934
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: world's just kind of knocked you on your butts a

935
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: little bit with what's going on right now. I'm glad

936
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 2: that you have a soft place to land. I would

937
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: take full full advantage of it and don't feel bad

938
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: at all at all.

939
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: I like that a soft place to land.

940
00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and your mommy in law's arms love it. She

941
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: squeezes really really hard anymore.

942
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,959
Speaker 1: It's yo, I don't think y'all have Let's take a book.

943
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: We need a Mandy appreciation moment. I don't think you

944
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: guys understand how well. Maybe you understand, but I don't

945
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: think I can stand how funny Mandy is like, because

946
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 1: I feel like people think like I'm the silly one. Yeah,

947
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: maybe got me beat honey, Okay, she is hilarry. Us.

948
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: We have to do ig Live again because people don't

949
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: get to feel get the full scope of your delightful

950
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: personality sometimes because you know, we're answering financial questions and

951
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: we're talking about our lives and stuff. But now when

952
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: you catch Mandy on alive, what the singers and the slingers,

953
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: you are hilarious. My sister was like, yo, Mandy is funny.

954
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: It sound like I know.

955
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: So it's when you have dealt with so much stress,

956
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: laughter is the only cure.

957
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:49,959
Speaker 1: Okay.

958
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: My mom taught me that, bless her. Yeah, humor is

959
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: if you're not last. I mean, the only thing you

960
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: can do now is laugh. That's how I got through

961
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 2: every challenge in my entire life was finding a joke.

962
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 2: Now that's in my own detriment. Sometimes sometimes it's not

963
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: You're not trying to get a laugh right now, Mandy,

964
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 2: things are really just not it's not the moment for that.

965
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 2: I had to talk to myself. But I just love

966
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 2: anytime we can giggle, and that's why it's great talking

967
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 2: to you, Tiff. But most of the time I'm trying

968
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: to keep you in lines. I can't be funny, I

969
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 2: be likectivity. Really, I would love to do a live

970
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 2: I've really held. I don't know something as I think

971
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: it's just the raggedness. I just haven't been on social.

972
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 2: I was really on social for you know, really loving

973
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: connecting to our audience on social, and I haven't really

974
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 2: been there lately, and I guess it's just I just feel, Yeah,

975
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm feeling a little like I don't have

976
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: anything to say and I don't really want to be

977
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 2: out there like that. I'm going through a bit. I

978
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 2: think I just need my peloton. I think I just

979
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: need to crush crush some friendships and win some peloton

980
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: races and maybe that'll bring me back.

981
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: Well, you let me know. You know, they would love

982
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: to see you on my social We can because they

983
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: love like you know, Mandy, they love you and so like,

984
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: and when we get together, they're like, oh you guys,

985
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: are you guys are really liked this. I'm like, oh yeah,

986
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: even worse, like we know to do for the show.

987
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: I'll wait for you to invite me. I will not

988
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 2: just crash your ig live with my nonsense.

989
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,479
Speaker 1: I know her, I know her. It's okay.

990
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 2: Let me and all right, let's take thanks Tiff though,

991
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 2: thanks for the love. Let's take Let's take another question.

992
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: How about this. We had a couple like this. I'm

993
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: gonna they're both anonymous, so I can kind of mash

994
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: them together. But they're both working at companies that they

995
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: don't feel are being super supportive in this time of

996
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 2: unrest in the country. All already, she says, I'd love

997
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: to hear your advice, but keep me anonymous. I recently

998
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: graduated from college and accepted a job at a company.

999
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 2: This was a miracle from God in itself, considering the

1000
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: current state of the economy. What's more, I actually like

1001
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: the role, and the pay is great, but I have

1002
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: serious concerns about the company's values. The company so far

1003
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 2: has not done or said anything in response to this

1004
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: moment in the BLM movement. I know because I've monitored

1005
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 2: their social media and talked to a manager. It also

1006
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 2: seems like the diversity in the company is very low.

1007
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: As you can imagine, this is upsetting. They're going through

1008
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: a bankruptcy crisis. But still, the least they could do

1009
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: is acknowledge that their black employees and customers' lives matter.

1010
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 2: Is this company worth my time? It might be an

1011
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: opportunity to change things from the inside. And in addition,

1012
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 2: I don't have any other job opportunities at the moment.

1013
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 2: What do you guys think? So she's considering this job offer,

1014
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 2: but she's not sure she's a take it based on

1015
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: what she's seeing the company, based on what she's said

1016
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 2: she's seen and heard so far about the company's lack

1017
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: of response to the Black Lives Matter movement. We were

1018
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 2: just talking about this. It's tough because if you, I mean,

1019
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 2: you need a job, I don't think I can. I

1020
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 2: don't think I could tell anybody in good conscience don't

1021
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: take a job. I mean like generational well, like we

1022
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 2: need to get out of this like trap. We need

1023
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 2: to start building generational well And unfortunately for now, you

1024
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: need to take a job. Maybe we're the company's values

1025
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,959
Speaker 2: are not in line with where you with with where

1026
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 2: you are right now. I think you're I think when

1027
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: you say it might be an opportunity to change things

1028
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: from the inside. Absolutely. I think when you're new to

1029
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 2: a company, you can even help them see if they're

1030
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: being a little tone deaf by sharing you know, your

1031
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: view on things, and maybe you can make an impact

1032
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: and make things better for the next person who comes

1033
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 2: behind you. Yeah, if this is your only job, is

1034
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 2: I take it and I hope, I hope that they

1035
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: heed your advice and heed your feedback. If they don't,

1036
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 2: hopefully you can move on again when another opportunity presents

1037
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: itself and let them know when you leave why you're leaving,

1038
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 2: and if you know, they can take it or leave it.

1039
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 2: But at that point you have done what you can

1040
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 2: and then you've got to keep it moving.

1041
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I say that too, Like at the end of

1042
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: the day, pay your bills. Like if you said, I

1043
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to work for one company or this

1044
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: other company and the difference in pay is five thousand dollars,

1045
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: but it's not MINEU Like I you know, I'm someone

1046
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: who would still be able to pay bills and things

1047
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: like that, But this company is super in alignment and

1048
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: this company isn't. Then that's different. That's like, Okay, we

1049
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: might meet, you know, Mandy, and I might be like, well,

1050
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: you know, five thousand dollars is not a little bit

1051
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: of money, but for your sanity, you know, I might

1052
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: go for the socially conscious company that pays five thousand

1053
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: dollars less, knowing that could still pay my bills and

1054
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 1: save and things. Gotcha. But you're saying, take this job

1055
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: or what pay your bills is pay your bills, do

1056
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: your job, you know, definitely, you know, you know, do

1057
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: what you can to maybe help, you know, exert some

1058
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: influence over company culture, and then put yourself in a

1059
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 1: position where you can find a company that's in alignment

1060
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: if this one does not end up being so. But yeah,

1061
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: I would never ever, ever ever suggest someone to choose,

1062
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: you know, like, and I get it, because I'm like,

1063
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: you know, we want to be in alignment. But everything

1064
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: I've always done has not always been in alignment. But

1065
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: you know, I put the work in so I can

1066
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: make those choices. So now here I am and I

1067
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: can make the choice of being in alignment. But I

1068
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: couldn't always make those choices. Earlier on in my career.

1069
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 1: We're now with that guy at a new space, so yeah,

1070
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: pay your bills.

1071
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 2: This What do you think about her giving feedback to

1072
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 2: the recruiter she's talking to or the hiring manager now

1073
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 2: that you know, I'm really excited about this opportunity, but

1074
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 2: the lack of you know, if this is a company

1075
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 2: that you think it would be in alignment with what

1076
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: they stand for for them to speak out now, Like,

1077
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: I don't know how I feel about companies who I

1078
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: don't know, like they raise chickens, if they need to

1079
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 2: like speak about BLM some of it just if it's

1080
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 2: not really on brand or we're in line with what

1081
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 2: you're doing. Sometimes I think, you know, companies can be

1082
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 2: seen as opportunistic by speaking out, and you may you

1083
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 2: may want to hear why they have it. Maybe they've

1084
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: thought about it, or they're doing something else, or they've

1085
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: decided that they can make a donation and they have

1086
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 2: an impact that way. I don't know, but I can.

1087
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 2: On the on the other hand, I can hear myself

1088
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: saying this, and I'm kind of like, as a new

1089
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 2: person and company, do you even feel like can you

1090
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 2: just come in, like you know, hot already with like

1091
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 2: a bunch of I don't know, a bunch of questions.

1092
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I honestly don't think that's necessarily wise. Like

1093
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,479
Speaker 1: I'm just taking like, say it there was. Okay, let's

1094
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: just say I'm thinking about somebody new coming into my

1095
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: company and we have a policy. I don't know, maybe

1096
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, I don't want to work, you know,

1097
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,439
Speaker 1: nights or whatever not that we have people work nights.

1098
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: But let's just say, and it's literally like in the

1099
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: interview about to get you know, hired, and it's like,

1100
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: I think we should change the policy about sometimes we

1101
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: work nights. I honestly am gonna be like, Hi, my

1102
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: name is Tiffany. Okay, you know what I mean. Like

1103
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: it seems like because people are.

1104
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: More acts, unless you're getting hired to work in HR,

1105
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 2: in which case maybe it's applicable to your job. But yeah, yeah,

1106
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: I see what you're saying.

1107
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, So just being mindful, like, you know, get a

1108
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,439
Speaker 1: good foot in the door, do like, you know, show

1109
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: that you are a valuable member of the team. And

1110
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: then you know, as you continue to look if you

1111
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: really just don't feel in alignment, and then when that

1112
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: happens and you're able to. It doesn't mean you don't

1113
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: say anything, but I would just be cost yourself. You

1114
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: just started, you know, so.

1115
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you want your work to speak first. And unfortunately,

1116
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 2: I do think there is a tax that you can

1117
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 2: be charged when you're a black or brown employee and

1118
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 2: you bring up race if you're not really sure of

1119
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 2: the company's culture yet and you haven't felt like it's

1120
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 2: a safe space for you to speak out. And I

1121
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 2: don't want you to be penalized for Yeah, there is

1122
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: a penalty I think that can come if you speak

1123
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 2: out about social justice issues in the workplace before you

1124
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 2: make sure that it's a safe space for you. That's

1125
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 2: why I for so long, you know, at companies, I

1126
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: just didn't talk about it because it didn't seem like

1127
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 2: it was a safe space. No one else was doing it,

1128
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 2: and for my own survival, you know, I wouldn't speak

1129
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 2: out about that kind of thing. So, yeah, it's tough.

1130
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: Take the job.

1131
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 2: I would say, benefit of the doubt. Try and try,

1132
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 2: and you know, let your work speak for itself. And

1133
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 2: then as you start to feel more comfortable, you know,

1134
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 2: you can start raising those questions or start asking, you know,

1135
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 2: asking maybe why they've chose not to, and maybe you'll

1136
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 2: learn something about about why they've chosen not to speak out. Yeah,

1137
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: interesting question. I wanted to follow this question up with

1138
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 2: someone else. So this person we were just talking about,

1139
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 2: she is in the she's job hunting, so she's looking

1140
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: at a job she hasn't worked for yet. This is

1141
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 2: another question from someone who's you know, long story short.

1142
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 2: She's working at a company wants to wants to remain anonymous,

1143
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 2: says the company's predominantly white and there's no person, no

1144
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 2: people of color past a certain position. It's been disheartening

1145
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: to her, and last week they sent an email about

1146
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 2: being mindful of quote certain conversations unquote because not everyone

1147
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 2: feels the same way you do. She's wondering what should

1148
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 2: I do. I plan on going back to school to

1149
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 2: get my masters and leaving this industry altogether. But this

1150
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 2: has been pretty demoralizing that her company has done absolutely nothing,

1151
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: she says, to show support to the b LM movement.

1152
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 2: So what can you do if you're in a company

1153
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 2: now you've already worked, there is now the time to

1154
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 2: speak up? Or should you just I have a friend,

1155
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: for example, who's decided she's just gonna quit. She doesn't

1156
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: care to help them be better. She's just like, I'm

1157
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 2: tired of this. I just want to get out of here.

1158
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 2: I am. I think that's fair.

1159
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I if I if from leadership that came out,

1160
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: I would be looking for another job. Like I'd be like, okay,

1161
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: I might. I might say something like, you know, that

1162
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: was really hard, you know, a little hurtful, and just

1163
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: to see, you know, a little test of water. But ultimately,

1164
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: it sounds like leadership has decided it's one thing for

1165
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: a company to be completely silent. That's not silence. They

1166
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: actively made a choice to say we don't want to

1167
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: hear about your black lives matter. That's what that That's

1168
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: what that email says. And so it's like that's a

1169
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: clear message from leadership about how what they feel about this.

1170
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: So in my mind, I'd be like, I'm already out

1171
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: of here, you know what. Let me start interviewing. Let

1172
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: me you know, I definitely do want to go back

1173
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: for my master's, but let me start interviewing. I'm not

1174
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: staying here. It's not a safe space for me.

1175
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 2: This sounds like some real Southern stuff too. This because

1176
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 2: you know, in the South, being from Georgia. I mean,

1177
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 2: you grow up. And I've been doing a lot of

1178
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 2: like thinking about my childhood and even the early jobs

1179
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: I had in school and all these settings where it's

1180
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 2: just like you would be told that's not polite conversation.

1181
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 2: You know, so don't have certain conversations because you don't

1182
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 2: know if everyone feels the same way you do. And

1183
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 2: this is your company kind of asking you to leave

1184
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 2: your skin color at the door at this time and

1185
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: not giving you space to bring your whole self to work,

1186
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 2: which is unfortunate. And I think, yeah, I agree with Tiffany.

1187
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 2: If you can leave for your own happiness and to

1188
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 2: work somewhere else that you feel accepted, that is great.

1189
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say quit right now without something else lined up,

1190
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 2: because again, I think your own financial security has to

1191
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 2: be taken to mind. But companies need to pay the

1192
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 2: consequences for not making all their employees, especially black employees,

1193
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: black and brown employees, feel feel safe and invested in

1194
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 2: and you know, a key, a key contributor to the

1195
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 2: company's success. They need they need to start understanding what

1196
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 2: they're losing, and they won't understand that if people do not,

1197
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 2: you know, eventually leave.

1198
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm telling you, like I remember then, I tell

1199
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: you I was telling you guys about that brand, right

1200
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: Mandy that wanted to work with me that had no

1201
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: black employees, no black contractors, no black anything. And they're like,

1202
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 1: oh wait, we do work with black affiliate people and

1203
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: we hire black models. I'm like, oh, so you take

1204
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: black money, but you don't put money in black pockets.

1205
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: Got it, and you're proud of it, as my dad

1206
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 1: would say, and you're happy about it, Like that's a

1207
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: very nice or anything to say. It's like when you're like, Dad,

1208
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: look I got a eighty six and you're happy about it,

1209
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: Like basically, you should be a standing for at eighty six.

1210
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: What is the eighty six when you can get a hundred.

1211
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 1: So they thought that coming to me with a sixty

1212
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: seven was somehow they're going to get a pat on

1213
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: the back. So I told her not interested things. I

1214
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: want to be a black band aid. So they just

1215
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: emailed me a couple of days ago, like heay, just

1216
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: want to follow up to see if you really do

1217
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: want to pause our affiliate partnership. I was like I do,

1218
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: and they're like, you know, we are, you know, we're

1219
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: definitely I think it was she was in the email,

1220
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 1: but basically like we're going to be hiring some black people.

1221
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: And I wrote her back and I was like, just

1222
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: so we'd clear as you look for quote unquote black people,

1223
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: that you're not doing anyone of favor. That what you're

1224
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: doing is broadening the net to find a qualified like

1225
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: to have a qualified, diverse team of people that work

1226
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: for you. That's it. And I said, here's some suggestions

1227
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: of how you can widen the net. You know, hire

1228
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: recruiters that that that specialize in different applicants from different backgrounds.

1229
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: Also reach out to some of the top HSBC us

1230
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: like like I told her, like uh, Spellman and Moorhouse

1231
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: and and I gave her a bunch of others. I

1232
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: was like, these are you can find qualified folks. And

1233
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: you're because hiring black people is not doing them a favor,

1234
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: because the implement what you're implying is is that somehow

1235
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: you're doing people a favor. You're doing what somebody with

1236
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: their masters a favor to work here.

1237
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 3: No.

1238
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: So I just wrote that back. I mean, I said

1239
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: it nicer than that, but I really was like, girl,

1240
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: still ain't learn nothing. No, I'm not working with you.

1241
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 2: I was like, I was very generous if you didn't

1242
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 2: give that advice. Yeah, just because it's a quick Google

1243
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:20,919
Speaker 2: could teach her a great deal.

1244
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: I mean I was like, you know what a bird fruit? Yes,

1245
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: I was just you know, I mean she didn't say that.

1246
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: You know, we're going to be like but I just

1247
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: wanted to be like, girl, you're not like, what do

1248
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: you want a freaking cookie? A freaking cookie for not

1249
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: being for saying, hey, we're going to be less terrible. No,

1250
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: you're not getting a cookie. As a matter of fact,

1251
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: I call I let logan my content manager, No right away,

1252
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: turn them things off me. Well, that's money lost us.

1253
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: I'll take it. I'd rather less. I'm not putting money

1254
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: in pockets if I can help it of people that

1255
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: are egregiously out of alignment. You know, just like I

1256
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: got an email from someone from a prepaid you know,

1257
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: we know these prepaid cards are like the right because

1258
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: there's potypothies. You you pay money to pay money, to

1259
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: load your money on the prepaid card, to check your balance,

1260
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: to take money off to transfer. I mean, they they

1261
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: they are predatory, especially to black and brown people, and

1262
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: especially to black and brown people who are are under

1263
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: banked or unbanked. You know. So I got this thing

1264
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: across what came across my email? Hey hey Bud Denisa,

1265
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: love what you're doing. We were looking to hire a

1266
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: spokesperson for a prepaid card. I was already like, you

1267
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: lost me at prepaid card. We're looking for Mandy. These

1268
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: are the words I quote. We're looking for an influencer

1269
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: that is unapologetically black.

1270
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 2: Oh. I was like, as opposed to one who's apologetic.

1271
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: But that's the way of saying, like, girl, we want

1272
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: you to be black black, So that way you can

1273
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: trick your people.

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Speaker 2: A sassy influencer, so.

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00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: You could trick you could all fantically trick your people

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01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: into signing up for our company. I was like, what

1277
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: in the predatory? So that I didn't even give a

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01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: response back. I just blocked them. So hopefully they're listening.

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Speaker 2: To them to go contact mine. Who is it that?

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01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 2: Who is that? Talk show host Montel Montel Williams, Yeah,

1281
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 2: what about it? Remember he used to wrap that was

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01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 2: like money yeah, some some like yeah some similar no

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01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 2: lending that is that should be the absolutely And we've

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01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 2: talked about like rush card and even George Lopez got

1285
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 2: tired of the paid card business.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is what I say that prepaid cards

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01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: are the malt liquor of financial products. Someone wrote me

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01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: was like, girl that has a worker. I said it

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01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: on ig Live. They're like, what do you mean? I said,

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01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: mat liquor is like the devil for your body. It's

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01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: the worst and it sounds but yes, it is gross.

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01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: Plus it's primarily marketed to a demographic of people who

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01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: typically don't have access to financial education or really finances,

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01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: and so it's purposefully malt liquor is purposely marketed to

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01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: mainly black and brown people who don't have much. And

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Speaker 1: so that is what that is what prepaid cars do.

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01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: It is malt liquor. It is a bault looker of

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01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: personal finance. And so don't do it. And yeah, when

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Speaker 1: I saw that, I was like, you clearly don't bother

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01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: me because I just be reading y'all for filth and

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01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: you're still in my inbox. But they're like, girl, you

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01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: unapologetically black girl.

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01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah I know, Oh yeah, screenshot these emails, getting a

1304
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 2: little folder they get by on board and feel like tweeting.

1305
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: I feel like I can't understand when old people used

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01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: to say, like older people used to say, got my

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01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: pressure up, and I never understood, and now I'm like,

1308
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: I'm here. Some of these theys just be getting my

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01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: pressure out of the pressure up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Wanda, get it together. Well. My heart goes out

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01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 2: to everyone working in companies where you don't feel like

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01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 2: your voice is being heard or you can't bring your

1313
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 2: whole self to the table. I hope that you get

1314
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 2: out of those situations as soon as possible, But do

1315
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:08,919
Speaker 2: not feel guilty. This is what I want to because

1316
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 2: I'm sitting here and I almost feel you can kind

1317
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 2: of feel guilty for not being I'm going to use

1318
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 2: quotes brave enough to take that moral high ground and

1319
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 2: quit a job based on your values or based on

1320
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 2: you know, And I think that is incredibly brave if

1321
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 2: you're willing to, if you're willing to put your own

1322
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 2: financial security at risk to make a statement. I don't

1323
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 2: think it is required. I think you can still be

1324
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 2: I think you can still support all that is going

1325
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 2: on and supported black lives and criminal justice reform and

1326
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 2: just everything like that without putting your own financial security

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01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 2: at risk. But it also makes me so grateful to

1328
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 2: the people who came before us, you know, during the

1329
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 2: civil rights movement even before that, who were brave enough

1330
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 2: to to boycott certain businesses to have walkouts. We just

1331
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 2: saw recently Facebook employees staged a virtual walk out in

1332
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 2: response to the company's treatment of President and we'll set

1333
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 2: it Voldemort's posts on the network. And I think their

1334
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 2: strength in numbers, So you know, if you want to

1335
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 2: find like minded people, and maybe you can. You know,

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01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 2: I think there is strengthen numbers and maybe you can

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01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 2: find some like minded employees or workers where you guys

1338
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:31,959
Speaker 2: can you know, make an impact as a collective voice.

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01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 2: But I just I just don't. I mean, I hate

1340
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 2: the thought of someone, you know, because of what's going on,

1341
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 2: feeling like they can't make an impact. They just have

1342
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 2: to quit, they have to leave and put their own

1343
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 2: finances at at risk, because that to me is like

1344
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 2: they're winning, to like they're still winning if we're not

1345
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 2: out here winning financially. And you know, sadly, I think

1346
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 2: when you're a person of color, often it means working

1347
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 2: for a company that's not super diverse so that you

1348
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 2: can get your coins, save up, build some wealth, and

1349
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 2: it is, you know, unfortunately the way it is for now.

1350
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 2: I just don't want people to feel making any sense

1351
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 2: at all.

1352
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: No, you are.

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01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 2: I just don't want people to feel bad about that.

1354
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 2: There's nothing to be ashamed of. You're not less black,

1355
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 2: you don't care less about black lives. If you're working

1356
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:22,439
Speaker 2: for a company that is not doing every single thing right,

1357
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you're probably it's probably

1358
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 2: not your job to make them do everything right. And

1359
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 2: when you get to the next level and you're able

1360
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 2: to move on, I hope that you do when you

1361
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 2: find a place that is aligned with your values and

1362
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 2: it all just everything just you know, starts to sing

1363
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 2: beautifully and everything is aligned. But if it's not that

1364
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 2: way now, I just want people to give themselves grace

1365
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 2: and to be okay with that.

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01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I love that because I know a lot

1367
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: of people might be feeling like, oh, my company is

1368
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: not like but it's like like at the end of

1369
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 1: the day, pay your billsys.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, Yeah, do you know what gets my pressure up?

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01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 2: Trying to articulate all the feelings that are happening in

1372
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 2: this world. And you were talking about earlier just wanting

1373
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 2: to choose your words wisely. I mean, at a time

1374
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,919
Speaker 2: when you're rewarded for having like hot takes and being

1375
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 2: quick to and even on our podcast, I feel like,

1376
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 2: you know, we we try and speak on issues that

1377
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 2: are you know, and try and speak from our heart,

1378
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 2: which often means we don't prepare what we're going to

1379
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,439
Speaker 2: say in advance. But at this time, I just feel

1380
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 2: it's extra important to think about the words we choose,

1381
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 2: and that adds an extra and it adds a level

1382
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 2: of anxiety to normal conversations now that we're not there before.

1383
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm feeling.

1384
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: This is a lucky yay for Zola. This is like

1385
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: the love episode we've been like up down South mad happy,

1386
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: like oh yeah, you.

1387
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,959
Speaker 2: Know you're a pug wear a mask?

1388
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 1: Yes, this is yes group ub wear a mask. I

1389
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: love that. Oh so it's now it's time for booster

1390
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: break for all our family.

1391
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 2: If you're going to sing this song, you've got to

1392
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 2: sing it peppy. Okay, sounds sad.

1393
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: Come on, now it's time to boost a break for

1394
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: all that family. Is you going to boost? Is you

1395
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: going to break? What you're going to do? Mandy?

1396
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 2: Hey, cookie monster? That's who I heard? Listen, my throat

1397
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 2: has been run raw from doing Cookie Monster Impressions.

1398
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: For the child Oh that's goode.

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01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 2: He loves it. I'll spare you guys. I'm gonna do

1400
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 2: a boost right now for America America, and they're spending

1401
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 2: because according to the Federal Reserve, the amount of credit

1402
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 2: card debt in this credit loving country is down twenty

1403
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 2: nine whole percentage. Yeah, So I think a lot of

1404
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 2: this has to do with people very right rightly deciding

1405
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 2: maybe it's not the best time to start running up

1406
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 2: my credit card for things that I can't afford because

1407
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 2: of what's happening right now, or maybe it's time to

1408
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 2: start paying down this debt aggressively, because you never know

1409
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 2: what's going to happen. So this gives me a little

1410
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,919
Speaker 2: bit of hope because before this crisis, those credit makes

1411
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 2: America's credit card addiction is hotter than ever. I mean,

1412
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 2: it was like every month their record highs in terms

1413
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 2: of revolving credit debt. So this gives me a little

1414
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 2: bit of hope that at least we've learned a little

1415
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 2: bit since the last economic crisis. And I hope, I

1416
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 2: really hope that people are, you know, socking their coins away.

1417
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,479
Speaker 2: This is the rainy day, This is the rainiest of days,

1418
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,919
Speaker 2: and we don't know how long it's gonna end, so yeah,

1419
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 2: keep it up, and I'm right there with you. I'm

1420
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 2: I'm just trying so hard not to not to use

1421
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:30,959
Speaker 2: the credit or at least to continue paying it off

1422
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 2: and save more than I have in a in a

1423
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 2: hot minute.

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01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: I like that. So, no, you're right. I saw that article.

1425
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, snappity shnap, that's awesome. I'm going

1426
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 1: to boo. So I had a really great call with

1427
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: the production company so about to them have been reaching out,

1428
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: but I had one calm particular with a company run

1429
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 1: by Tooless with an A and that was a uh

1430
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: oh that's true. That's just ooh, you're life and so

1431
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: but of all the pitches, sometimes you know, people pitch

1432
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: stuff and I'm like, eh, or it's just not in alignment.

1433
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: On one production company actually, like as they were interviewing me,

1434
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 1: asked me to add some sass, not literally it was

1435
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 1: the right kid, yes or like next winging on. Can

1436
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: you say it like this? I said I cannot. I

1437
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 1: mean I can, but bruh no. So anyway, this woman, no,

1438
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 1: I won't say the name yet until like things are

1439
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 1: signed and stuff. But what she pitched me was just

1440
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: so wonderful. It just felt right. It was positive. It

1441
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 1: was an alignment with how I want to show up.

1442
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: It just when I tell you it just now, whether

1443
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 1: you know it comes to fruition or not, whatever, because

1444
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 1: there's so many steps that has to take until a

1445
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 1: show comes to fruition. But it just felt so right.

1446
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: And it's been seven years of like production companies reaching

1447
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 1: out to me and me being like, nah no, let

1448
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 1: me see, and I just finally feel like I'm here now.

1449
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 1: It feels like the right time, it feels like the

1450
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: right idea, it feels like the right company, So we'll see.

1451
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: I just wanted to boost on that. Yeah, it is, honestly,

1452
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: because I was telling Superman about it. I was like,

1453
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: you know, if I have like a show, show like,

1454
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 1: it's going to be like a thing, and he's like,

1455
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm like no, like because I'm even planning

1456
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 1: for it now. Like there are things in business. One

1457
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: of the reasons why I brought on a business coach

1458
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 1: is to what does that look like to pivot time away?

1459
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 1: Because you can't be on set, you know, all day,

1460
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 1: and somehow you're not going to make all the meetings,

1461
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like what does that look like.

1462
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: So I've been just planning for that because I know

1463
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 1: that it's coming. And like I said, I've learned long

1464
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 1: ago in business that many times something is not the thing.

1465
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 1: It's the thing before the thing, or the thing before

1466
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: the thing before the thing. Meaning like let's just say

1467
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: the thing is a successful show. But me being reached

1468
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 1: out to my first production company seven years ago wasn't

1469
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: about me getting a show seven years ago. It was

1470
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: the thing before the thing before the thing. It was

1471
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 1: to tell me get ready. It was to tell me,

1472
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 1: you know, practice more. It was to tell me, figure out,

1473
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do with your hair or whatever,

1474
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: like I'm just making things up because I've had locks

1475
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: for like twenty years, you know. But so it was

1476
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: to tell me basically to prepare. And so but I

1477
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 1: think I feel like that this is the actual thing.

1478
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 1: It just felt. It just feels like a warm hug,

1479
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: this idea, and so yeah, I'm just really excited about it.

1480
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: It just allows me to like be more of service

1481
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 1: to the women that I'm already serving. So, like I said,

1482
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 1: it's just I'm excited, but more so, I just feel

1483
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 1: like good and warm about it. And I just couldn't

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Speaker 1: have come at a better time, because there's there's just

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01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 1: a lot going on, you know, as far I'm talking about,

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01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 1: like civil unrest. There's just there's just so many cloudy

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01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 1: aspects of life that it's nice to have sunshine. So

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01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 1: that's just my boost. But another little funny boost. I

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01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 1: don't know if there's a boost, but someone messages me

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01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: earlier today and I had put like on in still

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01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 1: like oh Tiffany the Budgetese Alice. And then and then

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01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 1: they saw, like I did an interview and they're like,

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01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 1: oh Tiffany Alice, and they saw that underneath it was

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01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 1: like Budgetie, founder of the Budgetista, and she wrote Tiffany.

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01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 1: All this time, I thought Budgetsa was on your birth certificate, ma'am.

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01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: I swim Jesus, I swimple Jesus.

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01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 2: Even Tiffany's on your birth certificate.

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01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 1: No it's not, well yeah, no it's not. It's Adochi,

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01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: my African name.

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Speaker 2: And that that was a joke.

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01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 3: But can you.

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01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 1: Imagine she literally wrote Tiffany question mark question mark. All

1503
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: this time, I thought Budgetista was on your birth certificate, ma'am.

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01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna call you out by name because I'm sure,

1505
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 1: you're like Nick, I mean.

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01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,520
Speaker 2: You know what, shout out to her for not questioning

1507
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 2: the you know your mother and what.

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01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: She And then on top of that, how can be

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01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 1: it that I teach finances? I just don't even know?

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01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, oh my goodness. Oh so yeah, that's.

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01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 2: How the opposite thing happened, where I thought someone's name

1512
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 2: was so ridiculous that it couldn't possibly be their real name,

1513
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 2: and then I realized it's actually their name. Ya. Because

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01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 2: I was like, so, what's your name, They're like, oh,

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01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 2: it's right there in my Instagram handle. I was like, oh,

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01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 2: that's your name. Yeah, thank goodness that was not a

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01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 2: phone call.

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01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm so they get it a lot. I knew

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01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: a girl named Mary Christmas M Mary like M A

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01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 1: R y, And because her last name was that's actually Christmas,

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01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 1: I was like, come on, now, your parents.

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01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 2: Didn't know Christmas could be a last name.

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01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 1: Yes, but why are you going to do that to

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01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 1: that girl? Mary?

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01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 2: Even imagine a Christmas right now, Merry Christmas. That is sad.

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01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 2: But wasn't your sister wasn't she named Christmas? Carol?

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01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: Well, her name was Carol because she was born in

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01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 1: December like December twenty first. But so she was named

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01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: after Christmas Carol, which I was like, oh daddy, how

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01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:56,679
Speaker 1: Nigerian of you. But at least it's not Christmas. So yeah,

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01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 1: but yeah, but her name is Carol. Carl was like,

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01:12:58,360 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 1: all my business, all of.

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01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 2: It, all of it could have been Rudolph me.

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Speaker 1: Oh sorry Mary all right.

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01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 2: By the way, I forgot. I was just rereading that question.

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Speaker 2: The woman who had a question about her job. She

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Speaker 2: said she's Nigerian American and she loves, loves loves tipping

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01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 2: the budgetista.

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01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome. I love it.

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01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 2: All right. Well that is our show. I have nothing

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01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 2: left to give. We have to end the show. I

1542
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 2: can't squeezed everything out. Well, thank you so much for

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01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 2: another show. Tip.

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01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 1: Thank you, Manja. This honestly has been like my rock.

1545
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 1: My rock is just a joy. Like I said, you

1546
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 1: were on my roll card as a one you decide.

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01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 2: I was sweating it. I'm like, oh shit, which.

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01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 1: You And I was like, I really enjoy it. It doesn't

1549
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 1: feel like it doesn't feel like, oh God, I gotta

1550
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 1: ta you know, like that's how you know, And it

1551
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 1: just feels like I know we're gonna laugh and honestly,

1552
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 1: because well, one half the time I forget that like

1553
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: anybody else is listening, because sometimes I'll say stuff and

1554
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 1: I'm like, I said that, I'm want a mission because

1555
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: I'm just talking to you. You know. Sometimes we have

1556
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 1: to remind each other to start taping, you know. So yeah,

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01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 1: it just feels like, oh, you know, once a week

1558
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,919
Speaker 1: I get to talk to my friend Mandy, and sometimes

1559
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 1: we answer people's questions and we just get to chit chat.

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01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 1: It's it's nice, honestly. So I'm just grateful for.

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01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 2: That same group hug. Talk of hug and me both

1562
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 2: say you need virtual hug. All right, We'll go take care,

1563
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 2: get some rest, eat some of that spaghetti, and I

1564
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 2: am going to try not to lie to my therapist

1565
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 2: this week, yes, and try to figure out some stuff

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01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,640
Speaker 2: I can say no to. That's my homework, all right,

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Speaker 2: all right too, Yeah,