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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, she's over here sitting quietly on the other side.

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Speaker 1: Is that Maria? Yes, play Maria. Thanks for coming in today.

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Speaker 1: So we were first introduced to Nicole and Maria because

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having us. So we're so honored to be

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Speaker 1: The podcast is called Mother Knows Death with Nicole. Maria's

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that's what my saying is. Morchu i vivastocent,

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Speaker 1: Yes, there you go. All right, let's get going, let's

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Speaker 4: No, we didn't, but we reported a story that's on

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Speaker 4: Some people do it for sexual gratification. But are people

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, they like the photograph is outrageous.

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Speaker 7: Yes, no, no, no, no, obviously, and Nicole, you guys know

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Speaker 1: It's all about the science.

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Speaker 1: Dental health. Wise, we do have a few teeth left.

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Speaker 4: It's all your teeth are millimeters away from your your

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Speaker 1: Right, get your teeth check.

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Speaker 5: That's your teeth. It's all coat.

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Speaker 4: just think, like, why isn't your teeth counted as equally

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