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Speaker 1: Daniel, we have breaking news on a Friday. College football

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Speaker 1: has been flush with breaking news over the last however,

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Speaker 1: many weeks, however, many months, however, many Fridays. I feel

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Speaker 1: like everything always breaks on a Friday, and we're going

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Speaker 1: has been in the works for a couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: a couple months now, perhaps out of necessity, the ACC

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Speaker 1: following suit and expanding, the ACC officially voting to invite Cal, Stanford,

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Speaker 1: and SMU into the conference effective twenty twenty four. Notably,

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Speaker 1: Cal and Stanford will take a thirty percent TV share,

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Speaker 1: SMU playing for free, playing for free for nine years.

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Speaker 1: We can get into that and much much more. News

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Speaker 1: broke earlier on Friday. That's why you and I have

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Speaker 1: hit the record button here to get some actual reaction

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Speaker 1: to what has transpired in the ACC. Dan, how are

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Speaker 2: I'm good, Ty, I'm good. And nothing makes sense. It

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Speaker 2: continues to not make sense, and all I know is, look,

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Speaker 2: this is a move for what I'm everybody's seeing survival.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's saying, you know, this is what Stanford and Cal

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Speaker 2: had to do, right. They're left on an island after

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Speaker 2: the PAC twelve is misrun or disbands or is abandoned

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Speaker 2: or whatever however you want to position all of the

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Speaker 2: different factors that led to the end of the PAC twelve.

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Speaker 2: Here is where we are, and Stanford and Cal had

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Speaker 2: little choice if they wanted to use football as a

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Speaker 2: for the school. Not that Stanford and Call need to

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Speaker 2: generate publicity for academics, but certainly you know it's an

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Speaker 2: ongoing process to stay in the public eye. So this

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Speaker 2: is this is why we're here, and we can get

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Speaker 2: into the specifics in a second, but I'd be remiss

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Speaker 2: if we didn't all didn't also mention this is happening

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Speaker 2: the day before the season is beginning. And not only

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Speaker 2: is it the day before the season is beginning for

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Speaker 2: all of us, but it's the day before the season

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Speaker 2: is beginning for Stanford, who is currently the football team

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Speaker 2: is in Hawaii, and local officials or Stanford officials found

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Speaker 2: out at local time three am Hawaiian time, with the

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Speaker 2: plan being quote, we'll wake up the players at a

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Speaker 2: certain point and let them know about the news.

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Speaker 1: Should there's that L plus three in this matchup.

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Speaker 2: Or Stanford minus anything, depending on your vantage point that

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Speaker 2: you know there's survival in the outlook, I guess for

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Speaker 2: Stanford football. And the other thing is because this is

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Speaker 2: the day before the season, we should also mention that

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Speaker 2: you have very little time to join what tie Oh

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Speaker 2: that's right.

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Speaker 1: Good call. Run the board. Is our season long and

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Speaker 1: weekly pick them game. This is like your absolute last

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Speaker 1: chance to get in from week one on the season

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Speaker 1: long contest. Again, run the board. You got to enter

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Speaker 1: now before kickoff, give yourself the best chance of winning

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Speaker 1: not only that coveted spot on our board of trustees,

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Speaker 1: but also the top scorer in week one gets a

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's a handful of games to pick against the spread,

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Speaker 2: and there is a tiebreaker. You know, if a bunch

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Speaker 2: of people get like nine out of what is it

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Speaker 2: ten twelve games in week one?

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Speaker 1: We got twelve games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got twelve games, So maybe a bunch of people,

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Speaker 2: it's a Clemson Duke total point tiebreaker. Well, ultimately that's

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Speaker 2: Let's talk ACC though, playrun theboard dot com once again,

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Speaker 2: verballers dot com. Thank you, of course for all of

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Speaker 2: your encouraging and ongoing support. The ACC will now have

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Speaker 2: there's been a lot that's come out this morning as

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Speaker 2: it seems that at least one of the reasons from

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Speaker 2: Chapel Hill, Tallahassee in Clemson, South Carolina. If they dip

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I think what we're what we're finding

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Speaker 1: This doesn't necessarily put the conference in a position where,

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Speaker 2: That was the big The big story was they were

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Speaker 1: Right From a fans perspective, do we get much out

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Speaker 1: this is very costly. SMU is going to need to

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Speaker 1: tap into some of that old booster money Dan, because

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Speaker 1: not taking a TV revenue share for nine years is

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Speaker 1: But now there's going to be a very very interesting

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Speaker 2: We're not the point where ten of the twelve current

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Speaker 2: that either the PAC twelve couldn't produce, or Washington State

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look, what it tells me is that

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Speaker 2: And the PAC twelve was terribly run by the presidents.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but what this tells me is that TV networks

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it was. It's okay if you're not

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems as if they were worth a reasonable

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be wild to follow. I also saw Stanford.

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Speaker 2: It's something like twenty two of the thirty six sports

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's technically an independent team or

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Speaker 2: they'll join this conference for this or that conference for this,

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Speaker 2: I think that's gonna be the case with Stanford specifically,

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Speaker 2: they're absolutely going to mandate that they play Stanford every year,

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Speaker 2: I assume, right, because they already do play Stanford every year.

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Speaker 1: Their name was one of the biggest drivers of this.

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Speaker 2: They were driving this bus. Yeah, I Stanford has been down,

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